WEBVTT 00:00.189 --> 00:01.870 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going to face one side of this prospect show. 00:01.950 --> 00:09.694 [SPEAKER_00]: I am Adam Weiner of Join by Eric Cole Street off of the All Star game, the All Star Weekend, the future's game and the MLB draft. 00:09.714 --> 00:12.075 [SPEAKER_00]: The MLB draft was Saturday afternoon. 00:12.095 --> 00:13.876 [SPEAKER_00]: Did you guys all like that? 00:14.437 --> 00:16.558 [SPEAKER_00]: Was that a fun time for the first round of the MLB draft? 00:16.658 --> 00:24.942 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't attend not to anger Rob Mann for it by her to rumor a substantiated rumor, a confirmed rumor that reporters were kicked out after a pick 40. 00:25.983 --> 00:31.105 [SPEAKER_00]: And they started just taking down the set with hammers and saws, so interesting. 00:31.125 --> 00:35.347 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I don't have feedback from that experience, but Eric and I are going to recap the draft. 00:35.367 --> 00:37.788 [SPEAKER_00]: Talk about players being an expect to go quite that early. 00:37.848 --> 00:41.030 [SPEAKER_00]: Strange money movements players pulling out, going back to college. 00:41.310 --> 00:43.031 [SPEAKER_00]: Late round picks to make it all worth it. 00:43.151 --> 00:44.131 [SPEAKER_00]: Plus the futures game. 00:44.311 --> 00:45.632 [SPEAKER_00]: I had boots on the ground there. 00:45.972 --> 00:47.853 [SPEAKER_00]: Moments from that game that caught my eye. 00:47.913 --> 00:48.553 [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty game. 00:48.633 --> 00:49.213 [SPEAKER_00]: Mid game. 00:49.293 --> 00:50.334 [SPEAKER_00]: Post game hanging out in the 00:50.874 --> 00:56.637 [SPEAKER_00]: watching with the writers plus writers and followers will go from the future's game because we don't have a lot of my early action. 00:56.657 --> 00:59.538 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to talk to Eric about his viewership experience there from home. 00:59.759 --> 01:04.521 [SPEAKER_00]: You may or may not hear a chirping smoke alarm in this room, but there's no smoke there it is. 01:04.961 --> 01:06.582 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, it's not that loud. 01:06.602 --> 01:07.522 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not that loud, right? 01:07.543 --> 01:08.603 [SPEAKER_00]: Let me know in the comments. 01:08.703 --> 01:09.123 [SPEAKER_00]: Way in. 01:09.183 --> 01:10.244 [SPEAKER_00]: You guys are going to tell me it's loud. 01:10.604 --> 01:29.652 [SPEAKER_00]: uh... but before we can do more of that uh... let me go to air called air welcome from a long late the draft weekend to now uh... how is it been how you're recovering how you feel and how's the five i'm leaving is getting a kiss today i will say uh... just because and again we'll kind of get a little bit into the so that that the skettles really weird this year 01:30.742 --> 01:45.895 [SPEAKER_01]: And it kind of just takes up, it took up all the daytime hours where you couldn't kind of like ease into things and ease into the coverage of just kind of like immediately right at noon have to do that for two straight days and those the schedule is compressed, but I also love the draft and I think that largely. 01:47.556 --> 01:55.723 [SPEAKER_01]: With some notable exceptions that they bring on a lot of really smart people to break down prospects and to break down kind of how the draft works and what's happening in front of their in front of our eyes. 01:56.444 --> 02:01.907 [SPEAKER_01]: that it makes you excited about the future of whatever your team is or just in general, right? 02:01.927 --> 02:10.290 [SPEAKER_01]: Like you feel by the end of the broadcast, you feel like you know about the guys that have been picked and why they are picked and why they're good, what could problems there could be? 02:10.391 --> 02:13.112 [SPEAKER_01]: And that part of it, I really enjoy. 02:13.812 --> 02:19.395 [SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy less this year, number of picks and kind of how much of a slog it could be, particularly on the port of the back end. 02:20.535 --> 02:24.038 [SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, again, we have a lot of really fun prospects to talk about. 02:24.278 --> 02:27.120 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be doing an update to my top 100 prospects very soon and spoilers. 02:27.500 --> 02:30.222 [SPEAKER_01]: The 2020 6th set will be draft is going to have a number of guys. 02:30.262 --> 02:31.523 [SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be featuring on that. 02:32.083 --> 02:41.890 [SPEAKER_01]: So, I just, again, I'm really excited to see the talent that's coming in, but I have to admit that, you know, even for a sickle like me, it can be a bit tiring, and so it was kind of nice to get a day yesterday and get a little bit sleepy. 02:45.382 --> 02:48.625 [SPEAKER_00]: Sleep is grand and I don't think I've gotten it yet. 02:48.765 --> 02:52.148 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see, but let's go right into the draft. 02:52.208 --> 02:55.911 [SPEAKER_00]: I want your thoughts and yeah, we'll get to you in a second. 02:56.431 --> 03:00.955 [SPEAKER_00]: Now the dust is settled after that was early rounds after we completed everything in two days. 03:01.516 --> 03:04.198 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, what would you say were you're most surprising early selections? 03:04.218 --> 03:06.099 [SPEAKER_00]: There were definitely a few that sitting from home. 03:06.320 --> 03:08.381 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, anyone could go down the pipeline list and go, 03:09.282 --> 03:16.464 [SPEAKER_00]: 184 what the hell and there were definitely semi-opiners and the Red Sox did a Nick York on us again, but there was a reason behind it. 03:16.784 --> 03:22.725 [SPEAKER_00]: Thoughts on the early selections, it surprised you the most, and especially the way the first round shook out any big jumps or drops. 03:23.806 --> 03:27.827 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, now, okay, so what happened in this draft was kind of odd. 03:28.407 --> 03:32.808 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that if you hit for contact and you played in college, you automatically went, 03:33.833 --> 03:40.747 [SPEAKER_01]: Like 10 to 20% higher than you probably would have normally and there's players you actually outperform that right so when you look at 03:43.911 --> 03:47.054 [SPEAKER_01]: When you look at kind of what happens, that's kind of what guided that, right? 03:47.074 --> 03:49.117 [SPEAKER_01]: For example, Zyano's going six overalls in Royals. 03:49.177 --> 03:55.563 [SPEAKER_01]: Everyone basically thought that the Royals are going to be the floor for either Eric, what both Junior or Jacob Lumbard. 03:56.144 --> 03:57.325 [SPEAKER_01]: And those are two prep bets. 03:57.886 --> 04:03.912 [SPEAKER_01]: And instead, they went with a very safe profile in Louis, in Louisville Outfielders, Zyano's. 04:03.932 --> 04:04.253 [SPEAKER_01]: Instead, 04:04.613 --> 04:19.039 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Rose is very highly regarded, he was going to be probably picking the back half of the first round somewhere, but his stock was steadily rising and I think that was part of it because of the same sort of we need a guy who's going to be safe that will make consistent contact and we can worry about how much upside they have later. 04:19.499 --> 04:31.925 [SPEAKER_01]: Same thing with the Red Sox pick that you mentioned, Jake Schaffner is not a guy who thought most thought was going to get picked at 20, but they could get him a little bit cheaper and just a contact hitter that will probably be able to stick in his position and it's an important position. 04:32.888 --> 04:36.312 [SPEAKER_01]: Similarly, again, counterback is in the sin mold from the braves. 04:37.233 --> 04:43.019 [SPEAKER_01]: That was very transparently in underslime pick, which, again, those are more understandable, like you pick a guy like that doesn't make any sense. 04:43.319 --> 04:45.361 [SPEAKER_01]: He must be going super cheap, and that's exactly what happened. 04:45.381 --> 04:47.744 [SPEAKER_01]: He went well a million over something like that. 04:47.764 --> 04:48.945 [SPEAKER_01]: I know you're underslot, something like that. 04:49.826 --> 04:52.589 [SPEAKER_00]: I won't say it's a little bit weird to me that co-processed as long as he did. 04:53.740 --> 04:57.044 [SPEAKER_01]: but it makes me really curious to see how much money the white socks threw at him. 04:57.224 --> 05:04.834 [SPEAKER_01]: Because everything I heard was that the brewer's gonna, we're gonna pick him the first round and you might as well, I should install him because he basically grew up in that clubhouse. 05:05.234 --> 05:10.421 [SPEAKER_01]: And also, he's lasting till the second round and the white socks who had a gigantic bonus pool. 05:11.482 --> 05:12.542 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, they were able to land him. 05:12.623 --> 05:15.644 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm willing to wager that that bonus is going to be first round money. 05:15.744 --> 05:19.366 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much, but he's one of the best fuck prep hitters in the entire class. 05:19.686 --> 05:20.386 [SPEAKER_01]: I liked him a lot. 05:20.406 --> 05:22.027 [SPEAKER_01]: I really wish he had been there 26 for the braves. 05:22.047 --> 05:22.887 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they would have picked him. 05:23.427 --> 05:28.650 [SPEAKER_01]: But again, that's kind of the money games once you kind of know after the fact, 05:29.585 --> 05:30.886 [SPEAKER_01]: make some explains on these picks. 05:31.206 --> 05:35.129 [SPEAKER_01]: But what the biggest difference was in terms of guys, they picked a little bit higher than we thought we were normally going to. 05:35.469 --> 05:41.834 [SPEAKER_01]: Was if the college contact hitters were at a premium and those are when teams wanted to pick in that first round. 05:42.415 --> 05:46.057 [SPEAKER_01]: And after that, then you can play some money games and take a little bit more risk later. 05:46.077 --> 05:47.639 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's just kind of what happens. 05:47.659 --> 05:49.480 [SPEAKER_01]: The teams were kind of hedging their bets a bit this year. 05:51.768 --> 05:59.334 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll factor it all, you know, it's impossible to ignore, especially when you have a guy like James Clark going out of the draft back to Duke morning of. 05:59.534 --> 06:06.000 [SPEAKER_00]: So in case it already wasn't front and center in your face, the reality of the fact that and this is happening in the NBA draft, too. 06:06.060 --> 06:11.144 [SPEAKER_00]: This is not an MLB specific, you know, a unique element that is now affecting the MLB draft. 06:11.444 --> 06:18.290 [SPEAKER_00]: But some players are taking the calculation just saying, and some people have different reasons for going to college, but some people are just taking the calculation and saying, I can earn more. 06:18.890 --> 06:21.474 [SPEAKER_00]: And I can also potentially be picked higher than I'm going to go today. 06:21.534 --> 06:23.096 [SPEAKER_00]: So why am I even in this thing? 06:23.637 --> 06:30.346 [SPEAKER_00]: How much was the draft affected by those late pullouts going back for NIO money, leg James Clark going to do? 06:30.386 --> 06:34.872 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, a lot of money moving around for lots of different reasons, but that was certainly a dominant factor. 06:37.781 --> 06:45.183 [SPEAKER_01]: The dominant thing that I hear from Scouts when talking about the draft in general lately has been how difficult an ILS made things. 06:45.303 --> 06:48.304 [SPEAKER_01]: And this, it doesn't only matter for the first round guys, right? 06:48.324 --> 06:57.566 [SPEAKER_01]: Because when you're talking about a slot value that's three and a half to four million dollars, the number of guys who are worth it in the eyes of the league aren't very, isn't a particularly high number. 06:58.226 --> 07:01.707 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you're talking about those that like levels of talents of German out of high school, 07:03.124 --> 07:03.644 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not the problem. 07:03.664 --> 07:16.054 [SPEAKER_01]: So when you get to the second third round guys, when they're like, for example, of the top 100 draft prospects bug MLB pipeline, kind of them that were left on the board, nine of them were high school guys, one of the most community college guy, right? 07:16.314 --> 07:24.080 [SPEAKER_01]: Who might again, might be getting in on my own money to go to, you know, I forget what school he's actually ended up committed to, but he's going to probably transfer to his, you know, play for a, do you want programming? 07:24.100 --> 07:25.101 [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to get a bunch of money. 07:26.047 --> 07:29.768 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, Jim Clark is the one that he will officially withdrew like, do not pick me. 07:29.908 --> 07:31.029 [SPEAKER_01]: I will not take it, right? 07:31.409 --> 07:33.910 [SPEAKER_01]: But there's a lot of other guys like the archer horns of the world. 07:34.330 --> 07:41.653 [SPEAKER_01]: You have host Joseph Fincheris, Ethan Bass, Landon Brown, there is not one program that caused the problems, right? 07:41.733 --> 07:44.274 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like all LSU guys are all Vanderbilt guys. 07:44.474 --> 07:47.455 [SPEAKER_01]: There's like an LSU guy, there's a Vanderbilt guy, there's a white guy. 07:48.676 --> 07:52.057 [SPEAKER_01]: But what matters is that the slot value for where they were ranked, 07:52.996 --> 07:55.638 [SPEAKER_01]: Roughly, wasn't that 1.5 to 2 million range. 07:56.098 --> 08:02.803 [SPEAKER_01]: So you can kind of wager that they go, okay, well, if I'm not getting first round money, I have an NIL deal in place for 2 million or whatever. 08:03.483 --> 08:08.207 [SPEAKER_01]: I can take that as financially as secure as I would be with the pick that I would have been picked at. 08:09.942 --> 08:12.765 [SPEAKER_01]: and then go to school and take my chances of being picked to get later on. 08:13.145 --> 08:14.346 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, that's a risk, right? 08:14.487 --> 08:20.292 [SPEAKER_01]: Because especially with pictures that the guys go tall as they either get exposed or they get hurt, whatever, there's risk involved in it. 08:20.573 --> 08:26.118 [SPEAKER_01]: But when you talk about that level of guy like the game, the 50s to the 100s, that makes things that much more difficult. 08:26.498 --> 08:28.801 [SPEAKER_01]: And it also makes some guys more expensive. 08:28.861 --> 08:32.605 [SPEAKER_01]: For example, the brave set of pay, Jensen Hirschhorn, a third-ground pick, 08:33.548 --> 08:35.470 [SPEAKER_01]: four, you know, I'm sorry, third or fourth round of time. 08:35.490 --> 08:38.473 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to start mixing up guys very quickly for too long. 08:38.833 --> 08:41.936 [SPEAKER_01]: But they had a paying $4 billion and that's a big oversaw. 08:41.956 --> 08:44.378 [SPEAKER_01]: They plan for that and that was a deal that they needed to go shade ahead time. 08:44.398 --> 08:52.345 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you think that the reason why he wasn't certain that that was going to be his number was because he probably had three and a half million from the boosters that LSU. 08:53.666 --> 08:54.527 [SPEAKER_01]: in an ideal deal. 08:55.248 --> 09:06.276 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, that's kind of the price you pay to deal with high school guys and certainly something that's going to come up from CBA in terms of, you know, why should we should let high schoolers get involved in the draft at all and it becomes a mess after that. 09:06.336 --> 09:09.819 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, all had a big, different, big impact on it, but it wasn't on that first route. 09:10.199 --> 09:17.805 [SPEAKER_01]: It was kind of in that second-to-third round range where there were really good players that you normally would be able to squeeze a knee at slot that you can't take anymore because of an 09:20.516 --> 09:40.854 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, those slots are moving around and speaking of these deals, obviously some of the, especially the Red Sox movement in the early rounds, ties directly in to what goes on later in the draft and the Red Sox class with the 9th and 10th round picks that make it very obvious what their plan was beyond selecting BFFs with their first couple, you know, UNC roommates. 09:41.174 --> 09:51.398 [SPEAKER_00]: They go ahead and get to, you know, a J. Beater comp in the ninth and a very predictable pitcher who anybody who watched their 10th round picks highlights could immediately see, oh, this guy's body is perfect. 09:51.458 --> 10:00.020 [SPEAKER_00]: This guy is wind up this crazy and they're going to have this guy throwing 98 in a couple of weeks and just even even a normal pitching lab will get that done. 10:00.361 --> 10:02.601 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, the red socks are the clear ones. 10:02.641 --> 10:04.302 [SPEAKER_00]: The late round picks, the teams will be happiest. 10:04.322 --> 10:07.523 [SPEAKER_00]: They saved cash for, but are there any others that come to mind? 10:08.283 --> 10:08.963 [SPEAKER_00]: And I know as a 10:10.644 --> 10:26.098 [SPEAKER_00]: We had a 15th round picked, you know, William Cushall coming out of South Carolina, high schooler, and a little miscommit, and a guy who I think a lot of people thought, okay, well that was a nice dark throw, and it's very unlikely to have any impact on this, and somehow he's one of the first members of the class signed. 10:26.258 --> 10:33.325 [SPEAKER_00]: I say that knocking on wood, because I don't think we've seen pen to paper yet, but yesterday he said he was going to the facility that have a deal in a couple of days. 10:33.825 --> 10:35.466 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine huge blow up at that point. 10:35.707 --> 10:37.408 [SPEAKER_00]: So although, you know, I wouldn't put it past them. 10:37.428 --> 10:38.689 [SPEAKER_00]: But you got a guy saying, I'm blessed. 10:38.729 --> 10:40.150 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to start my big league journey. 10:40.471 --> 10:41.592 [SPEAKER_00]: I am going to the facility. 10:41.632 --> 10:44.474 [SPEAKER_00]: I would be surprised if the Yankees are like, we actually ran out of money. 10:44.494 --> 10:45.295 [SPEAKER_00]: We didn't plan for this. 10:45.335 --> 10:45.895 [SPEAKER_00]: We forgot. 10:45.915 --> 10:48.197 [SPEAKER_00]: And the guy's like, actually hate baseball and the Yankees. 10:48.257 --> 10:49.738 [SPEAKER_00]: So I hope that gets done. 10:49.779 --> 10:51.560 [SPEAKER_00]: But you know, that is one that stands out. 10:51.580 --> 10:53.021 [SPEAKER_00]: The Red Sox picks or two others. 10:53.782 --> 10:57.025 [SPEAKER_00]: Any other deals that you say, that late rounder is actually gonna sign. 10:57.125 --> 11:00.808 [SPEAKER_00]: And that team is gonna be really glad they made the maneuvers that they did earlier on. 11:01.804 --> 11:10.824 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if now this is a little bit hard to parse it because what happens in a lot cases where you have a guy that you're like 90% is going to sign and you pick him in the fifth round. 11:11.727 --> 11:13.748 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to lose that bonus pool and that's what happened. 11:13.768 --> 11:16.510 [SPEAKER_01]: That is exactly what will happen if that player does not sign. 11:16.550 --> 11:19.492 [SPEAKER_01]: So you want to have kind of a return insurance policy, if that happens. 11:19.512 --> 11:23.414 [SPEAKER_01]: So what a lot of teams do is they know there's another guy that is probably going to go to school. 11:23.775 --> 11:27.257 [SPEAKER_01]: But they offered them the same amount of money that they could probably get them to come to school. 11:27.557 --> 11:29.038 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a few of those picks in this draft, right? 11:29.378 --> 11:33.501 [SPEAKER_01]: But maybe not as many as normally because again, the NIO money kind of makes that a little bit more difficult. 11:34.262 --> 11:35.163 [SPEAKER_01]: The breads did a good job. 11:35.183 --> 11:38.084 [SPEAKER_01]: For example, going under Slot with their first two picks obviously we are talking about Carter Beck. 11:38.464 --> 11:45.428 [SPEAKER_01]: AJ Grouse, he has a guy who wasn't going to get probably get picked in the top 10, but was pretty well liked and they got him way under Slot. 11:45.588 --> 11:54.994 [SPEAKER_01]: courtesy of the fact that he did not undergo a physical at the combine, they were able to do that because again, if you go to the combine and you have a medical, a medical exam, then you have to be guaranteed three quarters of your slot. 11:55.234 --> 11:57.215 [SPEAKER_01]: There's there's math, it doesn't matter. 11:57.635 --> 12:02.739 [SPEAKER_01]: Way under slot, they were able to save money, but most of the damage they did was like second round, third round, fourth round, fifth round. 12:03.239 --> 12:13.406 [SPEAKER_01]: They did have a slightly over slot kid in the 11th round, and they have another high school catcher in that seventh round range that is going to probably require over-slapping out a crazy amount of money. 12:13.827 --> 12:16.128 [SPEAKER_01]: But that's where they most, they're the most of their damage relatively early. 12:16.449 --> 12:18.430 [SPEAKER_01]: I did see a few names that kind of stick out to me. 12:19.231 --> 12:23.814 [SPEAKER_01]: Looking George's for the race, that's a big time arm, has some command issues, but in terms of 12:24.154 --> 12:30.879 [SPEAKER_01]: here, raw, arm talent, which is terrifying to give the raise any amount of like real clay to mold into whatever they want to. 12:31.620 --> 12:34.983 [SPEAKER_01]: That's a cat, that's a kid who's going to like late was at 11th Brambeck. 12:35.243 --> 12:37.525 [SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to end up being a dude. 12:38.065 --> 12:38.746 [SPEAKER_01]: What level of dude? 12:39.186 --> 12:41.027 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, these are still high school arms. 12:41.428 --> 12:48.813 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to go full on Adam with the wet red socks sort of, you know, he's going to be a star in six weeks sort of thing, but he could be really good. 12:49.674 --> 12:52.696 [SPEAKER_01]: I was a little surprised that the Detroit Tigers were able to pry. 12:52.937 --> 12:54.418 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, Adams away from LSU. 12:55.619 --> 13:02.083 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of another one of those traditional quote unquote day three picks, which is now looks like day two or second half of day two, however they want to call it now. 13:03.164 --> 13:13.051 [SPEAKER_01]: Big time power bat, one of the better kind of peer hitters on the hitting side in terms of high school, but is defensively limiting. 13:13.432 --> 13:14.513 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of a weird 13:15.683 --> 13:17.165 [SPEAKER_01]: demographic to be coming at a high school. 13:17.806 --> 13:24.295 [SPEAKER_01]: If in college, you can kind of create a track record, where you're like, okay, well, sure. 13:24.335 --> 13:27.180 [SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna be first base or D.H. only, maybe left field, something like that. 13:27.780 --> 13:32.107 [SPEAKER_01]: But he has consistently hit against a high-level competition, which is what he could demonstrate going to LSU. 13:33.041 --> 13:43.108 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really curious it's kind of how much money he's going to get to kind of or go that which kind of might tell us one house certain that he is that how certain he was as to whether or not he would actually be able to perform to LSU. 13:43.628 --> 13:52.855 [SPEAKER_01]: But also kind of speaks to kind of the tiger's MO of like, you know, we like high school hitters and we like that we think that we can take those guys and develop those guys in the best and they might be right. 13:53.515 --> 13:56.798 [SPEAKER_01]: If you look at Kevin McGonaglin, Max Clark, you know, there's there's an argument for it. 13:57.280 --> 14:09.235 [SPEAKER_01]: So there's been I get there's a few guys in terms of light, but what if you're like teams did a lot, if they were going to do oversluck shenanigans, they did a lot of that kind of the first half of like what rounds one through five, that's where a lot of that stuff happens. 14:09.716 --> 14:14.682 [SPEAKER_01]: There's not as much in the bottom in the bottom half of the draft especially that doesn't mean it didn't happen. 14:15.403 --> 14:22.051 [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think there's any guys there like stand out like, wow, this guy's gonna be a two million dollar guy or he's gonna, you know, he's gonna screw over a team X, right? 14:22.071 --> 14:23.934 [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think there's any of those guys this year. 14:24.475 --> 14:28.820 [SPEAKER_01]: There's certainly some guys are gonna be picking, maybe getting overslapped on it says, but I don't think there's name on two crazy this year. 14:31.827 --> 14:51.764 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so much any more given how much teams know going in and how little mystery there is as to whether or not they've agreed on slot value or over slot or something you can't like teams are taking players because they are well aware of that player's demands and the way that they're going to align so there aren't quite so many Jeff Nemons in the world now or you take them in the first round and it just. 14:51.904 --> 14:54.525 [SPEAKER_00]: you know, sparn you and go, actually no, goodbye. 14:54.625 --> 15:02.209 [SPEAKER_00]: But are there any relatively high picks in addition all these late round flyers that you think could disappoint these fan bases may not sign? 15:03.570 --> 15:04.610 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't like it. 15:04.890 --> 15:08.712 [SPEAKER_01]: If you were picking rounds one through ten, the odds are, it's not like it used to be. 15:08.852 --> 15:11.073 [SPEAKER_01]: If you got picked, like there was like an agreement in place. 15:11.374 --> 15:17.877 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you went back on that agreement, either there was something that came showed up on a physical or an injury that happened after the draft, which can happen. 15:19.768 --> 15:21.773 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like 98% that they're going to sign. 15:21.954 --> 15:24.240 [SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not sure if there's so much a sign of building issue. 15:24.320 --> 15:26.485 [SPEAKER_01]: I will say that there are some guys who were hurt. 15:27.308 --> 15:30.369 [SPEAKER_01]: that I am a little bit concerned. 15:30.769 --> 15:34.631 [SPEAKER_01]: It could be just point, for a second, I'm not a big, well, this isn't an early injury issue. 15:34.691 --> 15:38.232 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a big Derek Carrier fan because he has an ability power and he got big fitters overall. 15:38.692 --> 15:41.673 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that Pirates might be dreaming big with some of the comparisons that they've gotten. 15:41.933 --> 15:47.676 [SPEAKER_01]: He's gotten, even though I don't think that they're warned about, so ever, I think he's just gonna be kind of a guy who gets 280, 190 and doesn't really do much with it. 15:48.076 --> 15:53.178 [SPEAKER_01]: But you guys are like Tyler, Dell, Chris, a copian, do you go down and you look at Carson Wiggins? 15:53.198 --> 15:56.459 [SPEAKER_01]: These are all guys who have dealt with injuries that were taken in the first round. 15:57.800 --> 16:01.842 [SPEAKER_01]: And those entry issues haven't really subsided in a lot of ways. 16:02.202 --> 16:05.383 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the rumor was before the graphic title about was going to need shoulder surgery. 16:05.403 --> 16:07.124 [SPEAKER_01]: Now he's a hitter, so it doesn't look better as much. 16:07.484 --> 16:10.545 [SPEAKER_01]: But is that really what you want from the guy that you picked with like in the top 10, top 12? 16:10.565 --> 16:14.887 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Hikopian has a back issue and he has like a questionable defense of home. 16:15.187 --> 16:16.948 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that really what you want to have happen? 16:17.268 --> 16:19.129 [SPEAKER_01]: Carson Wiggins is more of an extreme example. 16:19.169 --> 16:20.930 [SPEAKER_01]: He might have had the best fastball on the draft, uh, 16:21.530 --> 16:37.468 [SPEAKER_01]: front of the program chef Calis said as much or Jim Calis said as much we had him on the show that he had some of the best stuff we was as hurt but he did throw teams at the combat and clearly you know that he was he was impressive enough that the match decided to go with him now is the match so you know decision making somewhat suspect 16:38.148 --> 16:39.149 [SPEAKER_01]: just across the board. 16:39.509 --> 16:42.330 [SPEAKER_01]: But again, those are the kinds of guys that I think are going to be more disappointing this year. 16:42.350 --> 16:48.213 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not guys that are going to be like not worth the money per say, although there will be that that's going to happen every time, right? 16:48.253 --> 17:04.501 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the guys who like get picked relatively highly, but had a real question, particularly with health, that impacts their ability to perform early, because you just never want to be like, okay, we use our first run pick and oh, sorry, he's out for the year, not being just had so shoulder surgery, he's going to be out until September next year, right? 17:04.581 --> 17:06.222 [SPEAKER_01]: And those are those are things that could happen. 17:06.522 --> 17:10.545 [SPEAKER_01]: And those are the kinds of guys that I'm kind of struggling to pick. 17:10.565 --> 17:20.752 [SPEAKER_00]: And I liked it even less when I saw the totality that metstrap class, because I kind of convinced myself, like, all right, well, you know, that's a risk, I guess they're willing to take limited track record, but high, you know, high ceiling stuff. 17:21.012 --> 17:25.775 [SPEAKER_00]: And then you've got to maybe take some safer options, or maybe another high upside eighth ninth rounder. 17:25.815 --> 17:29.298 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just looked at the totality and went none of these were really jumping off the page to me. 17:29.718 --> 17:36.040 [SPEAKER_00]: not to impune, you know, that there is always a possibility that there are people emergent from Dracula's who we don't expect. 17:36.380 --> 17:44.763 [SPEAKER_00]: But all I'm saying is that the first glance that one looked a little less impressive than I thought it would based on the first round pick and how sort of, you know, a lightning rod that was. 17:45.143 --> 17:50.025 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, one final draft process question where we do future's game, how do we turn it back into more into an event? 17:50.045 --> 17:55.807 [SPEAKER_00]: Because Sunday night, to Saturday afternoon felt like even worse than a lateral move, felt like a step back to me, 17:56.267 --> 17:58.269 [SPEAKER_00]: and the compression to two days didn't do it for me now. 17:58.450 --> 18:04.076 [SPEAKER_00]: I also don't like the future's game on Sunday during MLB gameplay. 18:04.196 --> 18:06.559 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I like it on Sunday, but I don't like live action. 18:06.859 --> 18:13.887 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't like seven innings at all, especially given that they split the final inning into three pictures for three battles. 18:14.468 --> 18:18.210 [SPEAKER_00]: Joseph Gerwath through one pitch, you got to fly out and he left the game. 18:18.270 --> 18:24.332 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I was sitting there in the pressbox hoping Ben Grable could get in and he came in for the second batter of that inning. 18:24.372 --> 18:25.633 [SPEAKER_00]: He got him on two pitches. 18:25.813 --> 18:27.213 [SPEAKER_00]: Like what does that do for anyone? 18:27.553 --> 18:29.874 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think we have a dual problem here. 18:29.934 --> 18:32.135 [SPEAKER_00]: Last year, a future's game Saturday, draft Sunday. 18:32.535 --> 18:36.937 [SPEAKER_00]: Draft Sunday, prime time was closer, more eyes on draft, you know, no live game action. 18:36.997 --> 18:41.219 [SPEAKER_00]: But this reversal, where is it got the future's game back where it used to be? 18:41.599 --> 18:42.740 [SPEAKER_00]: Still didn't get it right to me. 18:42.780 --> 18:46.261 [SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think would you do to turn this all back into a cohesive all star of it? 18:47.942 --> 18:51.743 [SPEAKER_01]: Ow, I don't know if you just need to make the all star get all star break one day longer. 18:52.143 --> 18:57.566 [SPEAKER_01]: Just to be able to fit everything in a schedule that doesn't like cause each other problems. 18:58.126 --> 19:02.128 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much of the draft schedule was based on like, you know, this deal with NBC and Peacock. 19:02.528 --> 19:07.510 [SPEAKER_01]: Part of the issue, the biggest issue I had, you can't have a draft where you have the draft, you have to look at three different channels to wash the thing. 19:07.993 --> 19:08.653 [SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean? 19:08.673 --> 19:20.718 [SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't think that the having one, you know, having one set up for the first 10 picks and then you go to a different set up from the broadcast for the next the next picks of the rest of the day one and then going somewhere else completely different on day to you. 19:20.738 --> 19:21.919 [SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't make any sense to me. 19:22.299 --> 19:24.080 [SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have the draft and you want to be a spectacle. 19:24.140 --> 19:25.220 [SPEAKER_01]: You have that on prime time. 19:25.240 --> 19:26.360 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't have it up against anything. 19:26.581 --> 19:28.801 [SPEAKER_01]: You can't have it up against games period. 19:29.022 --> 19:29.482 [SPEAKER_01]: You just can't. 19:30.242 --> 19:31.843 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you if you want to do it on two days. 19:32.643 --> 19:33.263 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine with that. 19:33.644 --> 19:40.207 [SPEAKER_01]: Again, the last day of the draft rounds 11 to 24 years has literally just been a list of names that has been called out. 19:40.627 --> 19:41.248 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just what it is. 19:41.888 --> 19:51.553 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe compressing the two days you're allowed to, you can kind of make the second half, the first half a little bit more of a broadcast and the experts talking about guys particularly over slot guys and things like that. 19:51.914 --> 19:53.074 [SPEAKER_01]: And then you kind of just go to that. 19:53.154 --> 19:57.637 [SPEAKER_01]: But you know, kind of the names getting called out, just list of guys and total things over, right? 19:58.357 --> 20:02.720 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think that you need to have more players that are in a parent, in attendance there. 20:02.820 --> 20:05.742 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that's difficult to make happen. 20:06.402 --> 20:09.924 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not the same draw that the NBA or the NFL has. 20:10.245 --> 20:18.430 [SPEAKER_01]: And when you have games on going and you have people still in school or whatever the case may be, I think that you need to have more players showing up so that people have 20:19.678 --> 20:21.619 [SPEAKER_01]: They can look at the guy that's closely the future of their team. 20:21.639 --> 20:27.720 [SPEAKER_01]: There's already a difficulty with the MLB draft that you're drafting guys that you're not going to see for three years. 20:28.241 --> 20:33.162 [SPEAKER_01]: But you at least want to give them some, like, most of the people that watch the draft this year. 20:33.802 --> 20:38.604 [SPEAKER_01]: If you weren't following really closely, you could not pick your team's first round pick out of a lineup. 20:39.184 --> 20:40.225 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't, you can't have that. 20:40.525 --> 20:45.149 [SPEAKER_01]: There needs to be more buildup, better put coverage beforehand, lead up to it, kind of build the excitement for it. 20:45.169 --> 20:55.236 [SPEAKER_01]: It can't just be gym cows, you know, Jonathan Mayo, whoever doing three minutes a week that talk a little bit, what's going on with the draft, or what could be interesting, there needs to be real coverage for it. 20:55.276 --> 20:56.577 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to develop time to it. 20:56.597 --> 21:01.201 [SPEAKER_01]: If you look at what the NFL and the NBA do best, it's that when their draft comes, they have like specials for it. 21:01.221 --> 21:03.243 [SPEAKER_01]: They break down depicts what could happen. 21:03.303 --> 21:03.523 [SPEAKER_01]: Why 21:06.525 --> 21:09.988 [SPEAKER_01]: adds a little bit of that to it, but it can't be like 1pm on a Saturday. 21:10.028 --> 21:10.829 [SPEAKER_01]: It has to be prime time. 21:10.849 --> 21:17.814 [SPEAKER_01]: If you want to do it two days fine, but if you're, especially with that close early picks, it has to be prime time, it has to have more, more to feel to it. 21:17.834 --> 21:22.778 [SPEAKER_01]: You have to actually build it up yourself because other people, frankly, aren't going to be able to do it for you. 21:26.037 --> 21:26.337 [SPEAKER_00]: Amen. 21:26.377 --> 21:30.799 [SPEAKER_00]: It'll be draft will never be the NBA or NFL, but like we can we just try to make it better, right? 21:30.839 --> 21:32.280 [SPEAKER_00]: That's something we can do. 21:32.700 --> 21:34.961 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel it's like bare minimum. 21:35.021 --> 21:36.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so we just make it a little bit a little bit better. 21:37.182 --> 21:40.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, could we not be taking the set apart as the media is trying to figure out. 21:40.263 --> 21:41.964 [SPEAKER_00]: Wait, where do I go for pick 43? 21:42.024 --> 21:43.084 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to work this whole event. 21:43.604 --> 21:44.865 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, let's do a future game. 21:44.925 --> 21:45.725 [SPEAKER_00]: I was up in the box. 21:45.845 --> 21:47.426 [SPEAKER_00]: I was on the field, which was incredible. 21:47.466 --> 21:50.347 [SPEAKER_00]: So I have the ability to say have some new best friends. 21:50.447 --> 21:51.928 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I look, I'm going to be 21:52.708 --> 21:54.128 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd possibly have prospects are cool to me. 21:54.148 --> 21:54.969 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be cool with them. 21:55.009 --> 21:57.769 [SPEAKER_00]: I think Gavin Killam is a cool dude on the field. 21:57.929 --> 22:02.950 [SPEAKER_00]: Charlie Conn and also did a lot, I mean, very much in demand, obviously huge top tier name. 22:02.970 --> 22:05.131 [SPEAKER_00]: And so for who to stop at all was was really nice. 22:05.151 --> 22:20.314 [SPEAKER_00]: But Killam and Ben Grable, kindness guys, like Grable going up and down the line, signed autographs for everyone, the one weird thing about this future's game is that if you were on the field, and I haven't been in a few years, but I've been to, you know, every like three, four years during childhood I would go. 22:22.975 --> 22:27.618 [SPEAKER_00]: And the one thing I noticed this year was the pictures were hard to find, like the position players were all over the place. 22:27.638 --> 22:31.660 [SPEAKER_00]: They were taking BP, they were out in the field, doing groundball work, and that pictures just disappeared. 22:31.680 --> 22:34.482 [SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was an NL thing, then it was an AL thing too. 22:34.762 --> 22:37.023 [SPEAKER_00]: But Grable was out there with the entire time. 22:37.383 --> 22:41.646 [SPEAKER_00]: And I stopped him and just introduced myself instead of I could get a minute of your time later, that'd be great. 22:41.666 --> 22:42.846 [SPEAKER_00]: And he was like, okay, fantastic. 22:42.866 --> 22:47.149 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he just went right back to signing autographs and talked to like a couple kid reporters. 22:47.169 --> 22:49.050 [SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh, you actually have all the time in the work. 22:49.070 --> 22:50.691 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you've made time for us. 22:51.211 --> 22:56.735 [SPEAKER_00]: I assume the pictures were disappearing because they were on a crazier schedule, but it was, I don't know, what some of them were there. 22:57.115 --> 22:59.277 [SPEAKER_00]: Grable was incredibly visible, so very cool. 22:59.337 --> 23:02.079 [SPEAKER_00]: And Gavin Killing gave me like two and a half really fun minutes of his time. 23:02.139 --> 23:08.163 [SPEAKER_00]: So shout out, Leo DeVries stole a runoff gauge wood while I was blinking, but it didn't seem to dim any of gauge enthusiasts. 23:08.183 --> 23:10.004 [SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't even flew welling MVP of all people. 23:10.044 --> 23:13.006 [SPEAKER_00]: And what is the most stacked futures game roster of all time? 23:13.166 --> 23:19.531 [SPEAKER_00]: We were told, what were your thoughts, takeaways, and writers and followers from the game who surprised you in either direction? 23:20.625 --> 23:25.106 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the flu-welling homers kind of, very good kind of how futures games goes. 23:25.226 --> 23:30.827 [SPEAKER_01]: There's always some guy that, oh, I guess he is only the 73th prospect, but he's still pretty good. 23:31.227 --> 23:34.787 [SPEAKER_01]: Sort of that those sorts of performances, we see that fairly frequently in the future scheme. 23:35.808 --> 23:42.449 [SPEAKER_01]: I will say that just kind of, I was a little bit to disappointed in the hitters overall, because again, most of the stackedness of this future scheme was the hitters. 23:42.849 --> 23:46.569 [SPEAKER_01]: And like the big names didn't really do a ton per se. 23:46.990 --> 23:48.410 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's kind of a good ton to talk a little bit 23:49.950 --> 23:58.737 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, followers from this game and this game alone could, again, that I don't want to necessarily kill anyone too much, but at the same time, there's certainly some guys who's took out and others who didn't. 23:59.798 --> 24:04.022 [SPEAKER_01]: For example, on the pitching side came Kim and Eddie was not a guy who I thought was going to do particularly well. 24:05.683 --> 24:13.288 [SPEAKER_01]: He's a guy that struck out Leo different reason was that it was a clean ining was probably one of the better pitching performances in the draft and in the future's game rather. 24:13.308 --> 24:16.070 [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely it is not surprising whatsoever that he looked awesome. 24:16.130 --> 24:19.452 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just, you know, test five plus pitches and he throws all of them 100 miles an hour. 24:19.833 --> 24:20.533 [SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of wild. 24:20.953 --> 24:24.236 [SPEAKER_01]: Leo different reasons kind of other than fluelling and making a couple plays here and there. 24:24.276 --> 24:34.743 [SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of the guy who, you know, again, he struck out against him and he, but he also stole two bases and he kind of created havoc and you can kind of tell that he kind of stood in terms of athleticism and it's kind of a man amongst boys. 24:35.323 --> 24:40.046 [SPEAKER_01]: in terms of the rest of this kind of what's going on in the future game and it's a good reason why he's on the top three prospects in the game. 24:44.189 --> 24:45.350 [SPEAKER_00]: It should be higher than that. 24:45.370 --> 24:46.310 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry top three not enough. 24:46.911 --> 25:00.700 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, we appreciate everybody who joined us for our draft recap and future's game recap and we're heading into next week with the hottest team next week means we are one week closer to the trade deadline folks, which is when players change hands, which is when I would welcome it. 25:00.980 --> 25:18.035 [SPEAKER_00]: recommend coming back to the prospect show for all the insight we can provide if you've got a rumored if you're a seller and you're dangling a major league candidate and you're like I don't know who I can expect to get back for this dude what caliber player come to the prospect show will will help talk you through it and then when the actual packages come out, 25:18.295 --> 25:19.375 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, obviously, analyze it. 25:19.515 --> 25:25.917 [SPEAKER_00]: Robert Murray and I will be on the baseball insider's on Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and probably more during deadlines season will be going live plenty. 25:25.937 --> 25:29.958 [SPEAKER_00]: And we hope to see all of you live in the chat in the comments and given our all stars. 25:29.978 --> 25:31.658 [SPEAKER_00]: They're love in the chat with their questions. 25:32.058 --> 25:36.079 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you need further information, specific drill-downs on prospects, Eric is an expert. 25:36.379 --> 25:42.261 [SPEAKER_00]: And we are going to be here live and taped and all in-between and shorts and all the content you could possibly want. 25:42.641 --> 25:45.281 [SPEAKER_00]: Either on the YouTube channel or on your favorite podcast platforms. 25:49.203 --> 25:50.063 [SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a good idea. 25:50.403 --> 25:51.024 [SPEAKER_01]: I got mine. 25:51.064 --> 25:52.265 [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we can get some protein. 25:52.285 --> 25:53.845 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, but it was a lot of fun. 25:54.226 --> 26:02.331 [SPEAKER_01]: Looking forward to kind of seeing how these draft these do when that shouldn't take too long because I think we're going to see some of these guys jump right into the fray in terms of, you know, short season ball and things like that, so it'll be fun. 26:03.811 --> 26:04.752 [SPEAKER_00]: To be used, come back here. 26:04.772 --> 26:06.073 [SPEAKER_00]: We'll analyze those two for air. 26:06.133 --> 26:06.353 [SPEAKER_00]: Cool. 26:06.433 --> 26:07.093 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Adam Weiner. 26:07.113 --> 26:07.734 [SPEAKER_00]: Take care, everybody.