WEBVTT 00:00.231 --> 00:19.827 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey everybody, welcome to a brand new episode of Geeks from the Multiverse, you know, back in 2014, nobody expected a low budget revenge movie about a retired hitman and a dead puppy to become one of the biggest action franchises in the world, but somehow John Wick 00:20.668 --> 00:24.710 [SPEAKER_02]: didn't just create an iconic changed action movies forever. 00:24.750 --> 00:33.135 [SPEAKER_02]: So tonight, we're checking into the continental and asking how one man with a pencil, a suit, and a very bad week became a modern legend. 00:34.235 --> 00:35.096 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's get geeky. 00:58.675 --> 01:00.096 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, what's going on, everybody? 01:00.956 --> 01:03.537 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, welcome to Geeks from the Multiverse. 01:03.797 --> 01:07.519 [SPEAKER_02]: I am one of your host Grumpy Beard and with me's always. 01:07.859 --> 01:09.100 [SPEAKER_03]: Captain, let's stage. 01:09.140 --> 01:10.080 [SPEAKER_03]: What's everybody? 01:10.101 --> 01:10.901 [SPEAKER_03]: Yo, yo, yo, yo. 01:11.041 --> 01:14.202 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, so, yes, with John Wick. 01:14.563 --> 01:20.405 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I will say that, yes, I know Matt has been on my ass to try to watch this. 01:20.425 --> 01:21.086 [SPEAKER_03]: I haven't even. 01:21.346 --> 01:22.466 [SPEAKER_03]: He's been on my ass. 01:22.506 --> 01:25.548 [SPEAKER_03]: He was like, bitch, you need to watch all of them. 01:26.502 --> 01:37.545 [SPEAKER_03]: tonight and I'm like, I can't watch a whole fucking series of movies and a TV show and this and that, you know, just because he's like, no, no, seriously, you need to do all of it. 01:37.645 --> 01:38.625 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, like, right now. 01:38.785 --> 01:41.546 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm like, I have a kid, man. 01:41.566 --> 01:43.387 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's sometimes it's hard to do that, shit. 01:43.427 --> 01:43.807 [SPEAKER_03]: No offense. 01:43.927 --> 01:44.507 [SPEAKER_03]: You're well. 01:46.164 --> 01:53.087 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, one of your kids is still at home, but you have a little bit more freedom to watch what you want. 01:53.507 --> 01:57.768 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't just watch John Wick when my kid is two years old trying to do this. 01:57.808 --> 01:58.409 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying. 01:59.069 --> 02:05.231 [SPEAKER_03]: But anyways, yes, I believe the John Wick though, and then I know we're gonna be going into some stuff here in a second. 02:07.568 --> 02:24.635 [SPEAKER_03]: even though it's you know somewhat new kind of I mean it's not like you're talking about like predator aliens like you know like some of the cult classics stuff but I mean John wick is becoming his own thing right I mean like he's becoming this this like phenomena that like you just never would have expected. 02:25.483 --> 02:28.544 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I mean, before we, we get into that. 02:28.604 --> 02:29.404 [SPEAKER_02]: John, I know. 02:29.684 --> 02:29.984 [SPEAKER_03]: I know. 02:30.004 --> 02:30.204 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 02:30.504 --> 02:31.404 [SPEAKER_03]: So anyways, yes. 02:31.444 --> 02:33.525 [SPEAKER_03]: So good old CTAs. 02:33.545 --> 02:34.525 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, call the actions. 02:34.585 --> 02:34.785 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes. 02:34.825 --> 02:37.026 [SPEAKER_03]: So we got, of course, your fist bump. 02:37.086 --> 02:39.606 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, follow Interact Subscribe, tell your friends. 02:40.226 --> 02:41.587 [SPEAKER_03]: And maybe the homeless person next to you. 02:42.167 --> 02:43.207 [SPEAKER_03]: What was that? 02:43.227 --> 02:45.208 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, the homeless person next to the next to the next debate. 02:45.228 --> 02:45.648 [SPEAKER_03]: What is this? 02:46.128 --> 02:46.628 [SPEAKER_03]: Anyways, no. 02:46.688 --> 02:52.249 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so of course, you know, do all that, you know, fun stuff, you know, let us know what you guys think of all these episodes that we've been doing. 02:55.610 --> 02:57.651 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I keep we keep saying this all the time. 02:58.271 --> 02:59.351 [SPEAKER_03]: There's so much stuff on there. 02:59.591 --> 03:00.992 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, there's the merch store. 03:01.032 --> 03:02.712 [SPEAKER_03]: There's the evolve page. 03:02.732 --> 03:05.113 [SPEAKER_03]: There's the vault resources that goes along with it. 03:05.793 --> 03:08.114 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Matt's got his books that he's been trying to sell. 03:08.134 --> 03:12.255 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, for God's sake, he's trying to be Stephen King like that level like best selling author. 03:12.275 --> 03:14.796 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, he's like maybe one day. 03:14.896 --> 03:15.336 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 03:16.296 --> 03:19.057 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and then, you know, just like I said, we got some cool stuff on there. 03:19.077 --> 03:20.477 [SPEAKER_03]: Matt made a really cool website. 03:20.517 --> 03:21.477 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, literally literally. 03:23.438 --> 03:32.863 [SPEAKER_03]: But literally check it out, check, check to see what, you know, what you can find on there and again, let us know, just hit us up any anywhere you want social media on Facebook, Instagram, all that fun stuff. 03:34.464 --> 03:37.846 [SPEAKER_03]: But yes, man, I know you have an interesting topic to talk about right now. 03:38.326 --> 03:44.410 [SPEAKER_02]: I do and I actually wanted to look something up real quick, but I wanted to talk about. 03:45.771 --> 03:49.112 [SPEAKER_02]: And I've debated between going between two different topics. 03:49.173 --> 03:50.493 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I might switch it up. 03:50.873 --> 03:52.354 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really, now you really threw me off. 03:52.394 --> 03:53.114 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 03:53.214 --> 03:58.837 [SPEAKER_02]: I might switch it up and talk about, well, you could tell it a little bit of both, you know. 03:59.337 --> 04:01.758 [SPEAKER_02]: Now I'm gonna save the other one for the next episode. 04:01.778 --> 04:03.239 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I thought we were talking about it. 04:03.939 --> 04:10.502 [SPEAKER_02]: We are talking about a different one, but I did want to talk about PlayStation. 04:11.762 --> 04:14.924 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought I just said we were gonna, that we were doing in the next one. 04:16.033 --> 04:16.253 [SPEAKER_02]: Nope. 04:16.594 --> 04:18.396 [SPEAKER_02]: We're in talk about it here because well, fine. 04:18.416 --> 04:36.774 [SPEAKER_02]: This and PlayStation has decided that they are going to kill physical disks and go completely digital and I I would urge all of you to there's a petition on change.org right now and I didn't know them 04:37.294 --> 04:42.983 [SPEAKER_02]: I would, it's, it's actually like, uh, don't kill the disc, tell Sony to keep physical, put that. 04:43.003 --> 04:44.144 [SPEAKER_02]: That's actually what it's like. 04:44.185 --> 04:45.186 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, that's a lot. 04:45.767 --> 04:52.276 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you just, if you just put in playstation petition, it's like the first thing that that hits on on Google. 04:52.837 --> 05:02.660 [SPEAKER_02]: But do they right now when I when I signed the petition it had a hundred and forty five thousand signatures right now, it's at two hundred and ninety one thousand. 05:02.800 --> 05:07.502 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm actually just about to put myself in here, too, because I agree with you, man. 05:07.522 --> 05:09.642 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, when we're talking about this is bullshit. 05:10.122 --> 05:11.603 [SPEAKER_03]: It is bullshit because here's the thing, right? 05:11.623 --> 05:13.443 [SPEAKER_03]: So I know most people think, oh, well, digital is better. 05:14.124 --> 05:16.184 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not right, because think about it like this. 05:19.318 --> 05:25.480 [SPEAKER_03]: Everything digital, okay, so that means if God forbid, because I know, unfortunately, there are some games that I did by digitally. 05:27.221 --> 05:29.121 [SPEAKER_03]: The problem is there's, there's two things here. 05:29.261 --> 05:32.362 [SPEAKER_03]: One, I said I also know that with online services and things like that. 05:32.382 --> 05:33.903 [SPEAKER_03]: So if like PSN goes down. 05:35.563 --> 05:36.284 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't play the game. 05:37.064 --> 05:39.005 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't play the game at all because it needs to be up. 05:39.805 --> 05:42.706 [SPEAKER_03]: So the other big thing to this too is that I was also hearing about. 05:45.590 --> 05:54.156 [SPEAKER_03]: The rights so like when you buy a game like through whatever in a PlayStation saying yes, you can play it, but you really don't own the game. 05:54.196 --> 06:01.982 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a level of ownership like when you go to stores like game stop and Buy a game. 06:02.002 --> 06:05.124 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there there's a number of problems. 06:06.357 --> 06:24.153 [SPEAKER_02]: Because when like I said, when you go and actually buy the game, there's a level of ownership that you have because you have a physical disk, you have something that you actually own even though the game technically is not yours just that disk is yours, but when you buy it digitally. 06:26.165 --> 06:32.411 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no level of that shows that you have ownership other than maybe a receipt that you get in your email. 06:32.751 --> 06:41.899 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, thanks for your purchase, but on the other on the other front, you know, the excitement of going to GameStop. 06:42.894 --> 06:59.601 [SPEAKER_02]: Reserving a game, like you pre-order a game that's coming out like if you're pre-ordering GTA 6 or you're pre-ordering Wolverine, like you pre-order those games half of the joy is going to the game stop and picking the game up. 07:00.542 --> 07:00.822 [SPEAKER_02]: True. 07:00.922 --> 07:03.223 [SPEAKER_02]: That's half of the joy of doing it, but 07:04.483 --> 07:10.388 [SPEAKER_02]: With physical discs and going to GameStop, you actually have the opportunity to keep putting money down. 07:10.428 --> 07:16.813 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to put your $70 or $80 or $100 in one go. 07:18.154 --> 07:20.675 [SPEAKER_02]: When you buy digital games, guess what? 07:22.077 --> 07:22.997 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't get to do that. 07:23.858 --> 07:26.140 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're buying an $80 game, guess what you're spending. 07:27.278 --> 07:49.870 [SPEAKER_02]: $80 right like there's no there's no layaway plan that they have where you can put somebody down and keep paying until the game comes out which is what I've always done when games have come out I've actually gone there and like I'll put 10 in I'll put five in I'll put 20 in like whatever I have I'll put it in until the thing is paid off and then I'll just go pick it up. 07:57.152 --> 08:07.100 [SPEAKER_03]: actually now I'm thinking about it wasn't just Sony, I mean, also Microsoft, you know, when you're buying a game online or basically on the store, you know, and I know Microsoft basically is kind of doing the same thing. 08:09.301 --> 08:24.533 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, to me, it's like, yes, like as the consumer, you would think that you would own that game, right, because you you paid money for this game, so that way it won't be, you know, removed it won't be whatever, like it should be on there no matter what. 08:25.508 --> 08:44.017 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, because like when you look at so like for example, let's say a far cry just said, you know, we're not, we're done, we're just simply done and then all of a sudden play stations like, yeah, fuck it, we're just going to take it off the store and then guess what, you know, all that shit that you just bought, you know, is gone. 08:44.077 --> 08:53.662 [SPEAKER_03]: And so like that's what we're saying is like, you know, yeah, and I'm also thinking about like the old days, like, you know, when you're buying a game, like you were saying about game stuff, like it's nice to actually 08:55.565 --> 09:00.268 [SPEAKER_03]: the disc, you know, enhance some ties because like I said, maybe your friend doesn't actually own the game. 09:01.329 --> 09:06.032 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, and that's like, you know, and like maybe you wanted to be like, hey, man, like, here, try this out and see what it's like, you know, yeah. 09:06.052 --> 09:07.793 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's like the biggest argument. 09:07.993 --> 09:11.195 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not that digital, like, oh, digital is of the devil. 09:11.455 --> 09:13.917 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's not like we're saying digital is bad. 09:14.598 --> 09:21.162 [SPEAKER_02]: What we're saying is when digital becomes the only option because when you have the disc, 09:22.214 --> 09:24.335 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a real game that you now own. 09:24.795 --> 09:29.316 [SPEAKER_02]: You can lend it, you can trade it, you can sell it, you can gift it, you can collect it. 09:30.336 --> 09:35.657 [SPEAKER_02]: Or you can pass it down to your kids, like I gave Rachel and Scott my 360. 09:36.597 --> 09:41.459 [SPEAKER_02]: And all of my 360 games that are on disks, they have. 09:41.479 --> 09:41.979 [SPEAKER_02]: And, 09:44.368 --> 09:50.230 [SPEAKER_02]: When you now, after January, 2028, new games are gonna be so digitally. 09:50.270 --> 09:54.352 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you go to the store and you pick up that plastic case, there's gonna be no disc inside. 09:54.372 --> 09:56.633 [SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be a digital code so you can download it. 09:56.753 --> 09:58.673 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, so here's the other problem with that, too. 09:59.294 --> 10:04.936 [SPEAKER_03]: Think about when you used to get like the, like the deluxe editions or like the ultimate or something like that. 10:04.996 --> 10:10.098 [SPEAKER_03]: And you would get like all these like cool because I wish I had still had mine, but they, you know, it broke. 10:10.578 --> 10:16.300 [SPEAKER_03]: But like days gone, like stuff like that, you would get collectibles, you'd get things, you do all these things. 10:16.820 --> 10:19.461 [SPEAKER_03]: And you get a cool case out of it and the disc, of course. 10:20.481 --> 10:33.906 [SPEAKER_03]: But like, you know, I've noticed, like, for example, I think it was got a war and there was like a few other games that in the last, I would say, seven, eight years, they've been doing that where they'd say in the case but there's no game inside. 10:34.406 --> 10:37.907 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, it's just a digital code and you download it and you're like, what the fuck? 10:38.537 --> 10:40.117 [SPEAKER_02]: Technically, you don't own it. 10:40.577 --> 10:44.158 [SPEAKER_02]: You're renting the access to this game. 10:44.398 --> 10:47.719 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're buying the access to this game, but you don't physically own it. 10:48.619 --> 10:52.700 [SPEAKER_02]: And at any point, if they decide, like, hey, we're pulling this game, guess what? 10:52.920 --> 10:53.240 [SPEAKER_02]: It's done. 10:53.640 --> 10:54.120 [SPEAKER_02]: You're done. 10:54.160 --> 10:55.460 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you can't play this game. 10:56.020 --> 10:58.941 [SPEAKER_02]: If you have a physical disc, they can't do that. 10:59.401 --> 11:03.862 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, you can still, maybe online features they can, like, get rid of whatever, 11:06.458 --> 11:18.104 [SPEAKER_02]: This is kind of like what we're saying and I would urge you guys to go on to, you know, Google, put in PlayStation petition and sign this thing because, well, it also just when I just did it. 11:18.124 --> 11:21.486 [SPEAKER_03]: The second thing I was asking to like give support. 11:21.586 --> 11:23.147 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I'll just share it. 11:23.527 --> 11:26.869 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't not that I don't want to give you my support in that sense. 11:27.029 --> 11:28.650 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to share it on Facebook. 11:29.190 --> 11:30.011 [SPEAKER_03]: That's exactly what I did. 11:31.271 --> 11:33.372 [SPEAKER_03]: But like I wasn't going to sit there and like, oh, here's $10. 11:34.947 --> 11:35.927 [SPEAKER_03]: for you to keep this up. 11:36.467 --> 11:38.688 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I will continue to share it. 11:38.748 --> 11:39.788 [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever, I will do that. 11:39.848 --> 11:40.408 [SPEAKER_03]: And I just did it. 11:40.428 --> 11:42.309 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I cool, boom, I did my part. 11:42.669 --> 11:43.709 [SPEAKER_03]: I did my part, man. 11:44.629 --> 11:54.791 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean, I'm gonna say this right now, because having a PS, I mean, I've had a PS4, I have a PS5, but I can tell you this right now, John. 11:56.092 --> 11:59.312 [SPEAKER_02]: If PlayStation continues down this path, I will not have a PS6. 12:00.693 --> 12:02.753 [SPEAKER_02]: I know, then it sounds like you and I are gonna go to Xbox now. 12:04.177 --> 12:14.404 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just being honest, like I do not want to go to a console that's going to make a decision where they are saying, we want to control your games. 12:15.265 --> 12:16.606 [SPEAKER_02]: You'd no longer own them. 12:17.026 --> 12:17.867 [SPEAKER_02]: They are ours. 12:19.648 --> 12:23.871 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that's the thing, too, is like, you know, where, and this is the thing. 12:23.911 --> 12:27.414 [SPEAKER_03]: And this is what sucks is like you look at Sony and you look at Microsoft. 12:28.034 --> 12:31.937 [SPEAKER_03]: Microsoft doesn't really need to make money in the sense of consoles. 12:32.858 --> 12:38.846 [SPEAKER_03]: They already have a billion dollar company through computers and PCs and everything the fuck out's that they're doing all the software. 12:39.748 --> 12:40.349 [SPEAKER_03]: People buy it. 12:41.250 --> 12:44.915 [SPEAKER_03]: Sony on the other hand, I'm not saying that they don't have like that much money, but like... 12:45.757 --> 12:56.843 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, Sony, yes, they make, you know, like speakers and a few other like TVs and so on and so what so they make, you know, get some money from all that other stuff, but they're not making software. 12:57.183 --> 13:11.631 [SPEAKER_03]: They're not making other things that most people would be using and so, you know, Microsoft in the sense where they have the game pass and there's, you know, they'll actually put new games on there and say, okay, give it a shot, you know, and if you want to buy the game great, if not, then you can just play it on here. 13:12.411 --> 13:12.752 [SPEAKER_03]: But again, 13:13.840 --> 13:35.895 [SPEAKER_03]: Like we were saying, it says back and forth shit that honestly like I'm glad that there's no really console wars anymore, because of the fact that yes, you can play games that Microsoft is making and then now, of course, with Really with PlayStation, they're not really giving the rights, but it's like, you know, steams able to, you know, get like PlayStation games, but you'll wait Microsoft can then get from there. 13:36.895 --> 13:40.738 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's just at this point, it's like, you know, why do we want 13:42.177 --> 13:45.781 [SPEAKER_03]: lose people off of consoles because I mean, yeah, I mean, the reality is is that you're right. 13:45.821 --> 13:50.787 [SPEAKER_03]: I would say at some point, that's why I know unfortunately PCs are the overlords. 13:51.553 --> 13:54.895 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, because you can you can just play whatever game you want. 13:54.915 --> 14:10.562 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to have whatever, you know, you're going to have, uh, I can't even remember some of the other ones, but, you know, just in general, like you can play more on a computer than I guess you could sure on a console, but it sucks when you have to wait three years for the game that just came out. 14:10.602 --> 14:15.385 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's say yesterday, and I get away three years for the fucking PC version of that game to finally come out. 14:15.985 --> 14:16.165 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 14:16.285 --> 14:19.587 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, but all we're saying is yes, if you think this is wrong. 14:20.440 --> 14:21.881 [SPEAKER_03]: which we would hope that you would think is wrong. 14:22.781 --> 14:24.542 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, again, sign that petition. 14:25.623 --> 14:30.005 [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely, you know, share with all your friends and whoever else that plays consoles and things like that. 14:30.025 --> 14:31.366 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, because at this point, I agree. 14:32.246 --> 14:36.428 [SPEAKER_03]: I've been a die-hard PlayStation guy for a long time, man. 14:37.409 --> 14:47.354 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not saying that I wouldn't, you know, go back to an Xbox, but if they are going to continue the down this road, and they're not going to allow physical disk in this and that, I hate saying it. 14:50.362 --> 15:15.871 [SPEAKER_02]: cut the cord because I agree it's it's it's actually I mean right now this PlayStation you know don't kill the disk petition is like pretty much one of the top three gaming petitions like right now like that have ever been you know yeah has ever been done like right now they're over 250 15:18.007 --> 15:24.696 [SPEAKER_02]: the GTA PC petition gathered like 600,000. 15:25.257 --> 15:27.940 [SPEAKER_02]: Dark souls had one that was a little over 70,000. 15:31.635 --> 15:44.482 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a European citizen's initiative to, I don't know exactly what the thing is, but it said it's stop killing games, petitioning that gained 1.4 million. 15:45.442 --> 15:54.787 [SPEAKER_02]: That one demanded that publishers keep purchasing online, that publishers keep purchasing online games functional rather than disabling them. 15:57.356 --> 16:01.887 [SPEAKER_02]: So what if you purchase a game and had online and then all of a sudden they go, oh, we're cutting the servers out. 16:02.188 --> 16:05.836 [SPEAKER_02]: That's this petition, they essentially stop killing these games. 16:07.191 --> 16:21.263 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I understand that some of these companies that they're trying to continue to move on and do other things, but at the same time, if there's games that are still popular, don't just kill it off, I mean, like that's stupid. 16:21.283 --> 16:23.205 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, why don't you want to make money at this point? 16:23.585 --> 16:26.107 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, with all the goddamn micro-transactions that we have. 16:26.328 --> 16:28.890 [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like sometimes these companies are allergic to making money. 16:29.788 --> 16:30.889 [SPEAKER_02]: Seriously, I mean, think about it. 16:30.909 --> 16:32.810 [SPEAKER_03]: I think about when we talk about all the movies and shit. 16:32.830 --> 16:36.273 [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, ah, we don't, I mean, we have a lot of money and it was, but let's just fuck up this movie. 16:36.373 --> 16:37.554 [SPEAKER_03]: This is fuck it up anyway. 16:38.074 --> 16:38.815 [SPEAKER_03]: But I know. 16:38.835 --> 16:40.036 [SPEAKER_03]: We've been talking way too much. 16:40.056 --> 16:48.282 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're talking John Wick, we're, you know, if you know the series, you know, like there, there are four movies, and I think each one gets 16:49.523 --> 16:51.424 [SPEAKER_02]: better and better as you watch them. 16:52.664 --> 16:57.905 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it just escalates the story, the characters, the fighting, everything is just escalated in each one. 16:58.645 --> 17:00.546 [SPEAKER_02]: There's also a TV show, the Continental. 17:02.166 --> 17:07.488 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's a spin-off movie called the ballerina, which is also in the John Wick. 17:08.484 --> 17:09.724 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, universe universe. 17:10.044 --> 17:15.646 [SPEAKER_02]: So, and I believe they're planning his character's name is Cain. 17:16.646 --> 17:21.887 [SPEAKER_02]: Who's the, you haven't seen him, John, but he's a blind, kind of martial artist guy. 17:22.147 --> 17:24.668 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, who's also, you know, bounty hunter type. 17:24.768 --> 17:27.668 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm mind we have stick, assassin type character. 17:27.729 --> 17:31.329 [SPEAKER_02]: And he, he's getting his own spin off as well. 17:32.330 --> 17:35.730 [SPEAKER_02]: There's some talk about maybe a John Wick five, but who knows? 17:38.791 --> 17:49.418 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and we will start with you, John, because how has John Wick brought action movies back from the dead? 17:50.299 --> 17:50.779 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 17:51.139 --> 17:57.163 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, when we're talking about, we're going to start off with this, the born effect. 17:57.183 --> 17:58.084 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 17:59.328 --> 18:02.711 [SPEAKER_03]: So the reason why we're going to, it'll, it'll tie into what we're talking about here. 18:02.771 --> 18:08.456 [SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, the born movies were great because the shaky camera enhanced the realism, right? 18:09.097 --> 18:09.998 [SPEAKER_03]: And so here's the problem. 18:10.478 --> 18:15.523 [SPEAKER_03]: Hollywood copied that camera shake but forgot everything else, right? 18:16.303 --> 18:22.889 [SPEAKER_03]: So the question is, did studios copy born the same way? 18:23.009 --> 18:24.671 [SPEAKER_03]: They later copied Marvel. 18:26.815 --> 18:31.297 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, look, you have to look at the board movies, right? 18:31.377 --> 18:42.542 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, that shaky camera, I think was definitely copied, but you also have to look at the board movie itself, because Jason Bourne was always constantly on the run. 18:42.582 --> 18:44.283 [SPEAKER_02]: He was always fighting for survival. 18:45.044 --> 18:47.885 [SPEAKER_02]: That's why you had those shaky camera. 18:49.137 --> 19:07.753 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, and the quick cuts they made sense because when you're always moving and you're always running and you're always trying to survive and fight that kind of what you'd want it to look like well, so here's the thing to I think Hollywood just wanted to see, you know, that they're secret ingredient when they saw like born that is this motion sickness. 19:08.013 --> 19:11.494 [SPEAKER_03]: Like they they feel like they had to be motion sickness this entire time. 19:11.594 --> 19:19.797 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean it looked like the camera operator was having like some kind of a medical emergency Sounds like a baby a seizure or like Tourette's maybe you'd like it out fitting a what's going on? 19:19.997 --> 19:26.739 [SPEAKER_02]: And I mean at some point you're watching the movie and like you can't really tell like who's punching who because of the shaky camera, but I mean that was 19:27.799 --> 19:30.401 [SPEAKER_02]: it was meant to create that realism in the tension. 19:30.421 --> 19:36.184 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean you look at some other movies right like quantum of solace, which is a double O7 movie. 19:36.845 --> 19:42.788 [SPEAKER_02]: That's one, I mean it's one of the most criticized examples of over editing the action. 19:43.969 --> 19:45.450 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, take in three. 19:46.532 --> 19:49.253 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you have dozens of different cuts. 19:49.573 --> 19:58.177 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not, you know, one, one or two or three different, like cut scenes, it's dozens of cuts during those action pieces. 19:59.397 --> 20:09.902 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, do I think they took from, you know, double of seven movies and, you know, the taken movies and born? 20:09.982 --> 20:11.842 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you could say that. 20:16.702 --> 20:21.149 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they later copied Marvel for certain things that they were doing, true. 20:22.591 --> 20:24.514 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so here's the other thing, right? 20:24.554 --> 20:32.706 [SPEAKER_03]: So like when you, unfortunately, when you start to look at like action hero movies, right, it seems like at at some point there was like, 20:33.825 --> 20:46.214 [SPEAKER_03]: a death right like basically this like killing of all action or movies because I'm not saying that you know we didn't have any from of course like the 80s and 90s you know 2000s things like that 20:47.133 --> 20:51.095 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and we're trying to like recreate it in maybe some TV shows and things like that. 20:51.115 --> 20:58.900 [SPEAKER_03]: But like for right now, you know, when you're talking about like action heroes, you know, it was huge in the 80s and 90s. 20:59.340 --> 20:59.560 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 20:59.640 --> 21:05.404 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, being, you know, we'll talk it like three right here, like, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger was one. 21:05.644 --> 21:06.685 [SPEAKER_03]: So, that's just a loan. 21:07.245 --> 21:08.486 [SPEAKER_03]: Bruce Willis, right? 21:08.586 --> 21:11.387 [SPEAKER_03]: Bruce Willis, you know, these guys were huge, right? 21:11.407 --> 21:13.209 [SPEAKER_03]: And by the, by the late 2000s, right? 21:16.118 --> 21:39.978 [SPEAKER_03]: you know audiences only wanted superheroes and that was the thing it was the shift between action heroes and then when you started to see marvel making their movies like oh shit we really want this instead you know not that you didn't want the action heroes but you know action heroes were were were were we're talking like a 20 30 year span you know and then all of a sudden it's like nap or done we don't need that anymore and then it's like 21:40.897 --> 21:41.617 [SPEAKER_03]: Why are we doing that? 21:41.637 --> 21:44.159 [SPEAKER_03]: So, here's a question for you, Matt. 21:44.539 --> 21:46.340 [SPEAKER_03]: Couple of actually, but we'll start with this one. 21:47.220 --> 21:52.663 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that John Wick proved that audience never stopped wanting action heroes? 21:55.784 --> 21:58.286 [SPEAKER_02]: Wow, I don't know, I mean, you look at, 21:59.365 --> 22:26.087 [SPEAKER_02]: you look at like the 80s and the 90s and you see these guys I mean Arnold Stallone Bruce Willis I mean you can mention you know John Claw van Damis in there um Jackie Chan is definitely in there as far as action movie goes yeah I mean shit I mean I know Chris Tucker was the the the relief you know the comic relief but like you know when you're thinking of I'm human thinking of Jet Lee too I mean there was I mean Jet Lee was big in those in the 80s and especially the 90s but like 22:26.908 --> 22:42.758 [SPEAKER_02]: When superhero movies exploded, like, I think Hollywood wanted to just jump on that bandwagon and sort of forgot that what made us love those movies wasn't the action. 22:43.178 --> 22:45.400 [SPEAKER_02]: It was being able to see, like, 22:47.702 --> 22:54.067 [SPEAKER_02]: one incredibly capable person overcoming these impossible odds like he watched die hard. 22:54.327 --> 22:55.127 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, come on. 22:55.508 --> 22:56.748 [SPEAKER_02]: All that is at a Christmas movie, man. 22:58.029 --> 23:00.971 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, first will us did say it is not a Christmas movie. 23:01.472 --> 23:02.412 [SPEAKER_02]: He's just a remember that name. 23:02.432 --> 23:03.193 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's true. 23:03.213 --> 23:03.873 [SPEAKER_03]: He probably doesn't remember. 23:04.073 --> 23:04.173 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, 23:05.458 --> 23:07.979 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't care if it's a Christmas or you don't like the honest video. 23:08.079 --> 23:08.900 [SPEAKER_02]: Just pick it up. 23:09.060 --> 23:12.561 [SPEAKER_02]: It's in the same vein as his home alone in Christmas movie and it's not. 23:13.102 --> 23:14.242 [SPEAKER_02]: It just happens at Christmas. 23:14.402 --> 23:15.243 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I, right. 23:15.263 --> 23:15.823 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean? 23:15.843 --> 23:16.483 [SPEAKER_02]: I get that. 23:17.104 --> 23:20.825 [SPEAKER_02]: You can make the argument that if it happens at Christmas, whatever shut up. 23:21.145 --> 23:21.786 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's on. 23:21.806 --> 23:22.526 [SPEAKER_03]: Why did you mention that? 23:22.566 --> 23:23.727 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, because I knew that was going to stay. 23:23.747 --> 23:24.087 [SPEAKER_03]: I think. 23:24.547 --> 23:40.213 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, do I think John Wick brought action heroes back like I don't think he himself like I don't think he on a Reeves in the movie itself brought action heroes back, but I think it reminded studios that audiences still wanted that type of movie. 23:40.233 --> 23:47.656 [SPEAKER_02]: They still wanted that type of feeling because John Wick, like he felt human, he got hurt. 23:48.096 --> 23:49.857 [SPEAKER_02]: He suffered consequences and that 23:53.143 --> 23:57.186 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a level of it that's real and then there's a level of it that's not. 23:57.899 --> 24:01.541 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, right, because you're talking about an ordinary human being, right? 24:01.561 --> 24:05.624 [SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't have superpowers that doesn't have enhanced abilities or anything like that. 24:05.984 --> 24:07.385 [SPEAKER_03]: You're talking about real hardship. 24:07.665 --> 24:10.626 [SPEAKER_03]: You're talking about struggles that people can relate to. 24:10.987 --> 24:11.627 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 24:11.727 --> 24:23.114 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's, I think that's where, you know, like what I was like hearing you say, like that, to me is like what I would think of like an action hero and, you know, like you're saying, I mean, these, they have certain, I have a certain set of skills. 24:23.988 --> 24:29.076 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, but you know, I just see it as like that would make more sense to me where you're right. 24:29.096 --> 24:33.343 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, when you're looking at like Captain America, yes, he's my favorite superhero. 24:33.363 --> 24:33.764 [SPEAKER_03]: That's just me. 24:34.625 --> 24:37.367 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he has a hands like human strength. 24:37.407 --> 24:50.756 [SPEAKER_03]: He's got, you know, I'm not saying the fastest person alive, but he's got enough where he can basically run for quite a long time, and he can do that more than, you know, Arnold Schwarzenegger, so Vester Stallone being like a rainbow or predator, and that sense. 24:51.436 --> 24:54.338 [SPEAKER_03]: So I get that, and that's where, you know, you're seeing these, 24:55.199 --> 25:19.467 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, things where actually I think Matt now I'm thinking about it when we talked about the 80s action movies, and we're like, yeah, you know, we're talking about the handshake and he said, yeah, that's a freaking handshake between him and what's this, I don't even know the others right car weather is and it's like you you just see these muscular forearms in there, they don't even shake hands they like grab each other's forearms, and it's like in the rip in the shit out of you basically, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 25:19.687 --> 25:24.975 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you have Arnold and Sylvester Salone, I mean, they were like the face of 80s action, right? 25:25.035 --> 25:31.064 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, John Wick, you can say is like, born of that. 25:32.057 --> 25:57.449 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, did they're all born but John Wick has kind of born from that because you look at I mean Arnold was just this like strong I mean every movie he plays this like strong action character right so Vester Stallone I mean you look at Rambo you look at Rocky oh my god Rocky those movies like he wasn't a strong character now in either of those movies 25:58.307 --> 26:00.147 [SPEAKER_02]: And well, did he become a strong character? 26:00.187 --> 26:05.709 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but every character I think that you look at so Vester Stallone, he was deeply flawed. 26:06.269 --> 26:06.529 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 26:07.349 --> 26:09.089 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Rambo is deeply flawed. 26:09.529 --> 26:13.150 [SPEAKER_02]: Rocky was kind of a dumb shit after he got hit in the head too many times. 26:13.750 --> 26:26.973 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I think you look at John Wick and he's like, he's the kind of like been born from these two guys, where he's he's strong, but he's flawed, you know, he makes mistakes and 26:29.170 --> 26:33.853 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's not the pinnacle of action movies, but I think he's up there. 26:34.534 --> 26:42.259 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, because the other question was that I was going to ask is, you know, or did they just want action heroes with actual personality and consequence? 26:42.539 --> 26:47.223 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think we've kind of established that that we want, we kind of want both. 26:47.833 --> 26:56.156 [SPEAKER_03]: Like we want, you know, of course, John Wick kind of show, like you said, like reminded people of, you know, we want action here will still like it should have never went away. 26:56.176 --> 26:56.617 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 26:56.937 --> 27:05.140 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, but at the same time, yes, we want people that have a certain, you know, personality, you know, there are consequences. 27:05.160 --> 27:08.301 [SPEAKER_03]: There are things that that could happen where you can relate. 27:08.501 --> 27:11.983 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm not saying that you personally are going to go through the same shit that John Wick did. 27:12.707 --> 27:23.096 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, but at least you can say, wow, I can actually, you know, understand his emotions on a human level, you know, and actually understand all this, but, oh, sorry. 27:23.116 --> 27:24.177 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see, um, perhaps so speed through this. 27:24.197 --> 27:40.190 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 27:40.905 --> 27:42.947 [SPEAKER_03]: has had the worst retirement plan imaginable. 27:44.888 --> 27:46.850 [SPEAKER_03]: Why do you think that meant? 27:46.870 --> 27:51.614 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, because I already know, but I'm just curious to hear your thoughts on this. 27:53.155 --> 27:55.057 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, you can't. 27:55.898 --> 28:01.863 [SPEAKER_02]: I think once you join that lifestyle, it's not like you can just get out. 28:01.963 --> 28:06.467 [SPEAKER_02]: And you really have to look at, I think the premise of the movie, 28:07.875 --> 28:16.097 [SPEAKER_02]: He has given his life literally to being in assassin. 28:17.017 --> 28:23.779 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like a, he woke up one morning and decided he was going to do it like, he is owned. 28:24.879 --> 28:26.420 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, think about it like this, right? 28:26.640 --> 28:30.401 [SPEAKER_03]: So here's the lesson of the movie, really the franchise, right? 28:30.961 --> 28:34.882 [SPEAKER_03]: Just never let your co-workers know exactly where you live after your quit. 28:35.637 --> 28:39.819 [SPEAKER_03]: OK, because that means, especially in his case, hey, hey, everybody. 28:39.859 --> 28:40.759 [SPEAKER_03]: So this is where I live. 28:40.799 --> 28:42.220 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's my address. 28:42.300 --> 28:43.460 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's, you know, here's my dog. 28:43.500 --> 28:44.120 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's my wife. 28:44.160 --> 28:44.921 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's this and that. 28:46.341 --> 28:47.662 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, dumbass, no offense. 28:48.882 --> 28:51.343 [SPEAKER_03]: You probably shouldn't have let everyone know because no offense. 28:51.703 --> 28:53.744 [SPEAKER_03]: Once you killed the dog, and guess what? 28:53.944 --> 28:55.124 [SPEAKER_03]: What the fuck did he do? 28:56.505 --> 28:58.206 [SPEAKER_03]: He lost his ever-loving fucking mind. 28:58.386 --> 29:02.667 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, if you looked at the story of John Wick, 29:04.740 --> 29:05.841 [SPEAKER_02]: crazy and ridiculous. 29:06.161 --> 29:11.644 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you have this retired hitman and he goes on a killing spree because somebody killed his dog. 29:12.704 --> 29:21.629 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you look deeper, even the car, it's not just about the dog, it's the car too. 29:21.689 --> 29:27.112 [SPEAKER_02]: And you find out in like the late, you know, the second movie, more about why the car was important. 29:27.152 --> 29:28.593 [SPEAKER_02]: But the story 29:31.632 --> 29:49.483 [SPEAKER_02]: but what the dog represented because you learn that his wife had died and with the grief his wife had bought a dog and that dog was the dog that showed up at his house after she had already died. 29:50.043 --> 29:55.466 [SPEAKER_02]: So this dog represented the last connection to his normal life with his 29:57.725 --> 30:05.670 [SPEAKER_02]: And one to you understood that like you immediately like got why he was ready to go to war. 30:06.770 --> 30:07.651 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the other thing though. 30:09.332 --> 30:10.453 [SPEAKER_03]: This little sign note, okay. 30:11.253 --> 30:18.838 [SPEAKER_03]: Why is it that movie villains have destroyed cities and gotten less audience hatred than the guy who killed the puppy? 30:20.078 --> 30:20.819 [SPEAKER_03]: Why do you think that man? 30:22.869 --> 30:26.051 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I actually disagree, I think you disagree on this. 30:26.332 --> 30:38.399 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he was probably one of the most hated characters probably in the last decade because it wasn't like he killed the dog because the dog attacked him. 30:38.439 --> 30:41.961 [SPEAKER_02]: He just flat out killed the dog, right? 30:43.082 --> 30:44.903 [SPEAKER_02]: And why? 30:45.103 --> 30:48.105 [SPEAKER_02]: Because he wanted the fucking car, right? 30:48.585 --> 30:51.467 [SPEAKER_03]: But if he left the dog alone, there would be no franchise. 30:52.294 --> 30:53.715 [SPEAKER_03]: I think there's still might have been. 30:53.735 --> 30:56.737 [SPEAKER_03]: I would, you think you might or you stole the car? 30:57.678 --> 31:03.282 [SPEAKER_03]: If he stole the car and literally left the pup or literally the dog alone, you would think there would still be a bunch of things. 31:03.302 --> 31:09.506 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, if you, if you have watched the second movie, John, you would know that because in the first saying that. 31:09.706 --> 31:17.512 [SPEAKER_02]: In the glove box of the car was a card from his wife that had a picture of the two of them together. 31:19.375 --> 31:21.217 [SPEAKER_02]: That was why the car was important. 31:21.977 --> 31:24.940 [SPEAKER_02]: So do I think it would have been as personal, probably not. 31:25.020 --> 31:36.209 [SPEAKER_02]: But I do think maybe if they had only stolen the car, he might not have been as angry and wanted like the revenge. 31:38.591 --> 31:38.851 [SPEAKER_03]: Fine. 31:39.312 --> 31:41.113 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know what, so here's the thing, right? 31:41.173 --> 31:48.059 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, there's, and I feel like in every franchise, there has to be this like secret sauce. 31:49.387 --> 31:53.871 [SPEAKER_03]: that's like secret mystical thing that just makes everything work, right? 31:53.891 --> 32:01.377 [SPEAKER_03]: And then I think in this case for when it comes to the franchise, I think it's competence, you know, he's very, I know he's very smart. 32:01.697 --> 32:07.462 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a very intelligent individual that it has clearly used his skills the right way, right? 32:07.542 --> 32:10.545 [SPEAKER_03]: And so in this case, right, he's got no superpowers. 32:10.585 --> 32:15.149 [SPEAKER_03]: He's got no magical destiny, you know, it's literally just relentless preparation. 32:18.650 --> 32:22.311 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, literally, he could think of every little thing and be like, nope, I'm already 10 sets of the head. 32:22.831 --> 32:23.532 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm already good to go. 32:23.932 --> 32:25.012 [SPEAKER_03]: I already know what I need to do. 32:25.332 --> 32:36.515 [SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like if he took the brain of Sherlock Holmes and like, you mixed it in with him and then you mixed it in with the taken character from Liam Neeson. 32:36.535 --> 32:38.836 [SPEAKER_03]: And you mix all these little things and it's like, here's John Wick. 32:40.036 --> 32:42.637 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm just saying, because like, you think about it, right? 32:42.777 --> 32:45.438 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you compare him to like, Batman. 32:46.127 --> 32:55.693 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, or Jason born or Jack Reacher, you know, like, he's on a level with them that he can just, yeah, well, and I think it does. 32:55.993 --> 32:59.275 [SPEAKER_02]: You, you look at the movie and you look at how they did it, like. 33:01.836 --> 33:06.659 [SPEAKER_02]: They did this practical action sequences in these movies. 33:06.699 --> 33:08.720 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you look at some of the takes. 33:10.641 --> 33:11.262 [SPEAKER_02]: They're long. 33:12.465 --> 33:29.533 [SPEAKER_02]: They're not cut up like there's a whole scene in John Wick four yeah, I know which one you're about to say because it's it's shot overhead and he's you know It's actually one of these really cool things it almost looks like a video game because he grabs the shotgun that has dragons breath. 33:29.713 --> 33:34.215 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, shells in it and it's an overhead shot and it's 33:35.575 --> 33:57.610 [SPEAKER_02]: One continuously, long shot of him just clearing this floor of all these, you know, bad guys, and he, it's, it's just an amazing scene because it's just continuous and that's like the thing that makes this movie unique is there was choreography there were, 33:59.611 --> 34:24.683 [SPEAKER_02]: fights and these violent kind of I would I would consider a almost like dance sequences that didn't feel like a traditional action movie did you know the the traditional thing with action movies is like you get these really clean fights no one really gets hurt maybe you see some blood on you know coming out of the nose or something but these were like violent and they were well choreographed 34:25.658 --> 34:45.706 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I, I mean, that's what I appreciate about John Wick, so like, you've just had these, you know, and the amount of training that, I mean, you can watch it on YouTube, like, he on a reef going through this training of, you know, how he wanted to, you know, check the, you know, pistols for. 34:47.285 --> 34:54.691 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, shells inside and like how he wanted to reload and how he wanted like the hold the gun like the style that he would use. 34:55.291 --> 35:02.276 [SPEAKER_02]: He went through like just vigorous hours of training and everything is just so like amazing when you watch these movies. 35:02.877 --> 35:09.222 [SPEAKER_03]: So I figured I'll leave the comment and I'll stuff for you since I know you watched the show and you did all that, but 35:10.013 --> 35:19.068 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I feel like John Wick has, as I almost like, kind of like when we've talked about like video games where it's almost like they either created. 35:21.225 --> 35:26.049 [SPEAKER_03]: like a phenomenon or basically created something that most people will follow afterwards, right? 35:26.069 --> 35:27.690 [SPEAKER_03]: So like this ripple effect. 35:27.710 --> 35:31.032 [SPEAKER_03]: So when you look at movies like after John Wick, right? 35:31.052 --> 35:35.816 [SPEAKER_03]: So like nobody, atomic blonde, extraction, bullet train. 35:36.536 --> 35:44.782 [SPEAKER_03]: Literally, it seems like in these movies, you can literally see, you know, John Wick's like, you know, movie presence inside of these movies. 35:45.303 --> 35:47.865 [SPEAKER_03]: Like the figure prints everywhere, right? 35:52.445 --> 36:10.008 [SPEAKER_03]: is, do you think, because when you look at like the die heart error or the matrix error or the born error, things like that, like all these franchises and stuff, do you think now, are we, do you think we're living in a, a wick era of action films? 36:11.768 --> 36:17.329 [SPEAKER_02]: I think we are, I mean, you, like you said, I mean, you can look at nobody, I mean, that was, 36:22.680 --> 36:28.184 [SPEAKER_02]: brutally, I mean, now I'm going to add some really brutal choreographed action in it. 36:28.464 --> 36:32.927 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's not quite the same as John Wick, but it was very, very similar. 36:33.488 --> 36:37.610 [SPEAKER_02]: Atomic Blonde, that was really heavy on these long takes. 36:38.831 --> 36:44.895 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the fight sequences were very practical, but they had the long takes, just like John Wick did, extraction. 36:46.076 --> 36:48.998 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you had these really extended action sequences. 36:52.853 --> 36:55.015 [SPEAKER_02]: the John Wick era of action films. 36:55.035 --> 36:58.679 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you can look at it the same way as, I guess you could say, die hard. 36:59.280 --> 36:59.460 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 36:59.890 --> 37:04.673 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, when die hard came out, it was like, wow, this is a cool movie and then they made the second one and then there's a third one. 37:04.693 --> 37:09.695 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like, maybe the third one is great, but you know, we don't really talk about the third one. 37:09.735 --> 37:20.081 [SPEAKER_02]: But like you, you look at the die hard era, the born era, like you look at those movies and I think the John Wick era is just one of those things. 37:20.121 --> 37:25.344 [SPEAKER_02]: I did want to say before, you know, I move on with the next little section here. 37:27.456 --> 37:30.739 [SPEAKER_02]: John Wick's gun-holding style. 37:31.019 --> 37:34.682 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very dynamic style he uses too, actually. 37:34.762 --> 37:43.910 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't, you probably wouldn't know more about this than I would, but the main one that he uses is a center access reloc car for short. 37:45.311 --> 37:50.916 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the, the handguns drawn in tightly to the chest or the face about like 12, 16 inches from the eyes. 37:51.596 --> 37:55.119 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, rather than fully extending, you know, like you would see in police. 37:55.139 --> 37:55.920 [SPEAKER_02]: So your tongue is. 37:56.900 --> 38:00.742 [SPEAKER_03]: You're talking about like right here, like right here, like really like right it close. 38:01.142 --> 38:22.912 [SPEAKER_03]: And so I would say part of that is, you know, when you're extending out like this, I'm not saying there's not stability, but when you're like right here in front of your chest, I mean, you're literally your entire body is taking that impact, you know, where like if you're extending it out, there might be slight recoil, you know, so for his sake, he's doing this and I mean, it might look weird. 38:23.674 --> 38:44.133 [SPEAKER_02]: But it for him it's probably making it easier so that way he's so yeah, I mean a couple of thing is is the grip I mean you're you're not fully extending the arms like you would you know you would watch police shows and they fully extend their arms but it's kind of weird to say this but it also depends on the stance right and that's and I'll I'll get to that but I'm 38:45.311 --> 39:01.037 [SPEAKER_02]: The weapon is also rotated or tilted inward towards like the weak side at a like a 45 degree of shangle and the stance that elbows are bent downward with a support arm held at a 90 degree angle to create the solid isometric platform. 39:01.057 --> 39:12.721 [SPEAKER_03]: So you're you're you're literally just walking around like yeah I mean so when you look at if you think about like a lot of cop shows or like even I was even thinking I don't know why but Resident Evil like some of the games. 39:13.903 --> 39:21.750 [SPEAKER_03]: I remember like, well, no, see, I thought it was times where he was kind of like kind of doing that, like Leon was in that sense. 39:22.871 --> 39:27.856 [SPEAKER_02]: At times, yeah, and the tactical benefits is, you know, you have a better, 39:30.603 --> 39:31.484 [SPEAKER_02]: weapon retention. 39:31.564 --> 39:56.405 [SPEAKER_02]: So when you have it so close to your body like this, like an attacker can't quickly disarm you as opposed to having your gun, you know, your arm stretch out profile reduction, which is, you have a much narrower posture with the gun closer to your chest, right, then you would if you're holding out and you're trying to turn corners, you're you have it really close and then obviously. 39:57.519 --> 40:01.041 [SPEAKER_02]: For Hollywood, right, this is an aspect of it. 40:01.642 --> 40:06.144 [SPEAKER_02]: This close-in style keeps the guns and hands out of the actor's lower face. 40:07.085 --> 40:12.108 [SPEAKER_02]: And it allows you to get those really tight aggressive shots that they're going for. 40:13.249 --> 40:15.210 [SPEAKER_02]: But that was a little bit about, you know. 40:16.439 --> 40:36.874 [SPEAKER_02]: his tactical style and when you watch him, yeah, you'll immediately see like what he's doing because he does it every time and he does this like really cool like he pulls the thing back and yeah, I mean, so real quick, I know you're going to get going on the next section here, but if if John Wick never existed, what do you think action movies would be like today? 40:38.843 --> 40:41.564 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, because I think they would be what they know really or no. 40:41.704 --> 40:44.625 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not everybody copies like John waste style. 40:44.645 --> 40:57.428 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I do see a lot more like in, in newer shows, especially where people are just like, you know that they're like military, they'll hold the, like, I'll notice that they're holding. 40:57.748 --> 40:59.448 [SPEAKER_02]: They're using that same tactical style. 41:00.469 --> 41:01.549 [SPEAKER_02]: I noticed it in, 41:03.180 --> 41:13.691 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to say criminal mind or like FBI like one of those shows like they kind of like some of the guys some of the people in the show like those shows do the same thing. 41:16.185 --> 41:20.167 [SPEAKER_02]: Are they using the influence or are they just using that gun training? 41:20.187 --> 41:24.568 [SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea, but I would think without John Wick. 41:25.268 --> 41:30.690 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there might be some influences that are not there, but I think action movies will be what they always are. 41:31.010 --> 41:32.451 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, well, the other thing is too. 41:32.491 --> 41:37.413 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, I feel like, you know, in this case, we'd still probably be trapped in, you know, the shaky camera. 41:37.973 --> 42:06.837 [SPEAKER_03]: This hyper editing, you know, this really CGI heavy fights, all these other things that we've been on all these stupid fucking one liners, right, and it's like, yeah, or, you know, all still obese, the baby, no, I'm joking that he's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 42:07.457 --> 42:27.957 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, the condo, I do want to talk about the condo because it is one of the coolest fictional places in modern movies because it instantly tells us like it's not just a bunch of random hitman like hitman running around 42:28.888 --> 42:32.369 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, the world has rules, it has traditions. 42:32.889 --> 42:54.497 [SPEAKER_02]: There's an entire society that like hide underneath normal civilization and the idea of like this luxury hotel is just for, I'm sure it's not just for assassins, but it's designed for assassins in the way that it works. 42:56.779 --> 43:16.559 [SPEAKER_02]: the movies commit to it just completely and that's why it works like it's a ridiculous idea it's it's a completely like you would almost if you if I told you everything about the content all you would think like oh that must be a double oh seven movie so here's the thing that you know yes because I had to have some some help here but. 43:17.721 --> 43:20.723 [SPEAKER_03]: This is what, you know, good ol' AI was telling me. 43:20.743 --> 43:26.408 [SPEAKER_03]: So basically, it says, the continental is basically the nicest HR department in movie history. 43:26.748 --> 43:28.910 [SPEAKER_03]: Their one rule is, don't kill co-workers in the office. 43:29.130 --> 43:32.173 [SPEAKER_03]: Seems reasonable, you know, and here's the other one, right? 43:33.142 --> 43:39.524 [SPEAKER_03]: But let's say honestly, if every workplace had consequences like the content of those people would answer emails a lot faster. 43:40.264 --> 43:47.787 [SPEAKER_03]: Like think about, I mean, if you're like, if you don't answer my motherfucking email and the next two fucking seconds, like, you know, like, yeah, I just, I don't know. 43:47.887 --> 43:56.090 [SPEAKER_02]: So, I will say this, so the continental is a lot of things for these assassins. 43:56.510 --> 43:59.551 [SPEAKER_02]: And basically, when you're on their property, 44:03.452 --> 44:05.333 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a no business rule. 44:06.073 --> 44:12.656 [SPEAKER_02]: You cannot do your business within the continental. 44:12.856 --> 44:13.757 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a safe area. 44:14.357 --> 44:22.761 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you have two assassins that are attacking each other, they cannot even do violence against each other. 44:22.781 --> 44:25.422 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they will actually kill you. 44:25.922 --> 44:28.183 [SPEAKER_02]: Like physically kill you, not just a threat. 44:28.243 --> 44:29.204 [SPEAKER_02]: They will actually kill you. 44:33.571 --> 44:41.637 [SPEAKER_02]: There's almost like this concierge service where you have access, they have access to doctors. 44:41.797 --> 44:50.043 [SPEAKER_02]: They have access to weapons and a tailor that makes custom suits for them, custom clothes and suits and all kinds of things. 44:50.383 --> 44:54.446 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, there's all these services that are offered, they have cleaners. 44:55.908 --> 45:00.911 [SPEAKER_02]: So you call them and they just come and you pay with these coins and I'll get into the coin in a minute. 45:03.168 --> 45:05.889 [SPEAKER_02]: But that's what the continental is. 45:05.949 --> 45:12.931 [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like a safe place, but it's a headquarters where you can get a job or you can get whatever. 45:12.951 --> 45:17.653 [SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of the assassins probably just hang out in the continental just to get work. 45:18.653 --> 45:19.533 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 45:20.834 --> 45:22.974 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's basically what it is. 45:23.094 --> 45:24.835 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like Hogwarts for our murderers. 45:25.395 --> 45:26.055 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 45:26.375 --> 45:27.716 [SPEAKER_02]: Hogwarts for murderers. 45:27.796 --> 45:29.516 [SPEAKER_02]: I love that as a title. 45:29.576 --> 45:31.277 [SPEAKER_02]: Hogwarts for murderers. 45:33.075 --> 45:36.956 [SPEAKER_02]: But beyond, I think, like, the continental, like, the characters, right? 45:36.996 --> 45:40.197 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they make the world feel like it's much bigger. 45:40.637 --> 45:46.579 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yes, you have John Wick, but you also have, I believe it's Sharon. 45:47.399 --> 45:50.200 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the black eye that's, oh, okay. 45:52.080 --> 45:57.302 [SPEAKER_02]: He is the host, I guess, of the continental, like he is the face. 45:58.905 --> 46:04.566 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, the concierge, if you will, uh, Winston, he is the one that's in charge of the continental. 46:05.206 --> 46:10.547 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, he is almost like a father figure, but you never quite know with Winston. 46:11.627 --> 46:20.529 [SPEAKER_02]: If he is four John Wick or if he's against John Wick, it's it's left kind of ambiguous ambiguous. 46:20.609 --> 46:21.429 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but there it is. 46:22.209 --> 46:22.409 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, 46:27.034 --> 46:43.995 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, more views, more views, but he, you know, there's just so many like just cool villains and characters like the Bowery King is like he has this homeless network of spies like all of the assassins that work for him. 46:45.468 --> 46:51.671 [SPEAKER_02]: are homeless people that you would walk by on the streets, but they're really just assassins and they're spying on everybody. 46:52.471 --> 46:55.372 [SPEAKER_02]: It's ridiculous and it's somehow brilliant. 46:55.932 --> 46:56.713 [SPEAKER_03]: I was gonna say this. 46:57.253 --> 47:01.034 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like, because you were talking about China a second ago, I was just kind of looking at this. 47:02.055 --> 47:03.435 [SPEAKER_03]: This would be kind of funny, right? 47:03.475 --> 47:07.097 [SPEAKER_03]: So it'd be like, John Wick would be fighting like 200 assassins, right? 47:07.277 --> 47:11.939 [SPEAKER_03]: And then Sharon just basically stating, they're saying, would you like a ballet parking site? 47:12.638 --> 47:16.339 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, like, would you just, would you like me to park your car real quick? 47:16.359 --> 47:18.420 [SPEAKER_03]: Why you're about to kill kill about 200 people real quick? 47:18.880 --> 47:22.261 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, I mean, he's, I mean, he's, he's a professional. 47:22.301 --> 47:27.602 [SPEAKER_02]: He's, he's a servant like he just, he just is like one of the coolest characters. 47:29.563 --> 47:36.925 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, I know he doesn't say he doesn't say a whole lot, but he just serves and you know, like, he's just there, like he's just, 47:37.903 --> 47:43.447 [SPEAKER_02]: Pretty good guy, but he's probably like, someone you didn't want to get on the other side of, you know what I mean? 47:44.347 --> 47:44.808 [SPEAKER_03]: No, right. 47:44.848 --> 47:47.149 [SPEAKER_03]: And I was also going to be like, you know, on top of that. 47:47.169 --> 47:49.331 [SPEAKER_03]: So imagine like him doing that, you know what I say? 47:49.351 --> 47:50.331 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, would you like me to park a car? 47:50.391 --> 47:54.254 [SPEAKER_03]: Actually, sir, would you like me to do the usual for you meeting like, clean your clothes for you? 47:54.314 --> 47:56.095 [SPEAKER_03]: Get rid of these dead bodies and do all this other stuff? 47:56.716 --> 48:05.942 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, I know, this is the part where, I guess I, I'm going to need more explanation on this, but I know, you might as well talk about the infamous gold coin. 48:06.300 --> 48:09.281 [SPEAKER_02]: The gold coin, I'm actually holding one in my hand. 48:09.881 --> 48:11.981 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm going to pass it over to you, John. 48:12.001 --> 48:13.201 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I know I have one. 48:13.221 --> 48:15.222 [SPEAKER_03]: I just, I can't remember where I placed it. 48:15.362 --> 48:22.083 [SPEAKER_02]: But I bought these as kind of our little tokens that we would use like, you know, challenge coins, kind of thing. 48:22.363 --> 48:23.763 [SPEAKER_03]: We haven't used it in a while. 48:24.323 --> 48:34.025 [SPEAKER_02]: But there's an economy within John Wick and the continental where they will mint these gold coins 48:35.212 --> 48:39.015 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, there's also this thing called blood markers, which I'll get to. 48:39.075 --> 48:59.411 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you consider this like a drink, my cost to coin, a cleanup crew, my cost five, or however many like you, you end up giving them, but like they may, they may cost five coins every time that you do a job, you get paid in these. 48:59.491 --> 49:01.693 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's, it's like an assassins currency. 49:03.122 --> 49:03.322 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 49:03.362 --> 49:06.464 [SPEAKER_02]: So every job that you get, you might get one coin. 49:07.024 --> 49:08.585 [SPEAKER_02]: The job might be five coins. 49:08.625 --> 49:09.946 [SPEAKER_02]: It might be 50 coins. 49:09.966 --> 49:11.527 [SPEAKER_02]: It might be a thousand coins. 49:11.587 --> 49:24.174 [SPEAKER_02]: Depending on, I guess the, you know, how hard the job actually is, um, you can get an entire arsenal with just a few coins. 49:24.615 --> 49:25.996 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, so here's a thing. 49:27.196 --> 49:28.897 [SPEAKER_03]: Imagine if the condonel had it like a 49:31.195 --> 49:32.036 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure they do. 49:32.436 --> 49:54.116 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think they're having a complete mental breakdown because of how many gold coins they have to like think of, like, how many is they're produced, how many of, you know, like, you know, the constant exchange of these gold coins, I feel like this account would probably lose their fucking mind because think about in a day, well, how many gold coins are being exchanged in this and that and, oh, I know, like, yeah, it's probably losing their fucking minds up with this. 49:54.556 --> 49:56.338 [SPEAKER_02]: It feels more like, um, 49:57.671 --> 50:01.414 [SPEAKER_02]: not like actual currency, but more of like membership tokens. 50:01.835 --> 50:09.241 [SPEAKER_02]: So like, if I was in assassin and they're like, hey, here's a job, you know, we need you to kill so and so this is who it is. 50:11.503 --> 50:13.805 [SPEAKER_02]: As soon as I do the job, I get paid in these coins. 50:14.365 --> 50:17.007 [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, when I go to the continental, 50:18.509 --> 50:25.678 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't pay with cash when you pay with the coin, that tells them exactly who you are while you're there. 50:26.660 --> 50:33.669 [SPEAKER_02]: And when you go to the doctor, you see their doctor, whether you need surgery or you need wound patched up. 50:34.230 --> 50:35.251 [SPEAKER_02]: you're paying them with this. 50:35.351 --> 50:36.932 [SPEAKER_02]: When you're getting guns, you pay with this. 50:37.032 --> 50:38.773 [SPEAKER_02]: When you're getting a suit, you pay for it. 50:38.853 --> 50:39.953 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, so here's my thing. 50:40.173 --> 50:43.475 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, because you're already mentioned like one go coin might get you this. 50:43.495 --> 50:50.799 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, so for example, like, you know, one go, you know, one coin could get rid of a body, you know, one could make you, you know, get a hotel stay. 50:51.160 --> 50:52.200 [SPEAKER_03]: And other one gets you a drink. 50:52.921 --> 50:54.902 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so, so my question to you is, is, 50:56.181 --> 50:57.562 [SPEAKER_03]: What is the exchange rate here? 50:58.162 --> 50:59.143 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, what are we? 50:59.263 --> 51:01.385 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's really well thought out. 51:02.706 --> 51:07.649 [SPEAKER_02]: What you know from the movie is that John Wick has a shit ton of them. 51:08.250 --> 51:10.611 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, he's probably been doing it for what? 51:10.771 --> 51:11.492 [SPEAKER_03]: Over 20 years. 51:11.792 --> 51:16.396 [SPEAKER_02]: He's probably been doing it for a long time and been saving up most of his coins. 51:16.456 --> 51:23.521 [SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, when the first movie hits, like he's, he actually buried this case in his basement underneath the concrete. 51:25.802 --> 51:51.003 [SPEAKER_02]: yeah resurfaced it was concrete and then when they killed the dog and they steal the car he breaks up all the concrete and takes out like his suit his guns and he you know you see all these freaking coins that he has there yeah it's probably thousands of them um and you know he'll he he pays for things like with these coins but it's like you know you couldn't just go to their 51:56.276 --> 51:58.578 [SPEAKER_02]: Because, right, it would be a much different thing. 51:58.998 --> 52:02.782 [SPEAKER_02]: When as soon as somebody sees the coin, they're like, yep, thank you. 52:03.042 --> 52:07.546 [SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like instantly like, they know exactly who you are, what you do. 52:08.127 --> 52:09.648 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's the thing with the gold coins. 52:10.068 --> 52:15.213 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, moving on to the blood marker, I think these are fascinating because 52:16.698 --> 52:24.907 [SPEAKER_02]: They function almost like you would think these like oaths, you know, these magical type oaths and like a fantasy movie. 52:24.927 --> 52:38.522 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it doesn't really make sense, but when you look at what they do it, it's about honor and debt, like John Wick had paid 52:40.202 --> 52:48.709 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, somebody paid for his debts to be paid for and he did that through a blood marker, which means it's a physical marker. 52:49.449 --> 52:50.890 [SPEAKER_02]: You open it up. 52:50.910 --> 52:52.071 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a button on the top. 52:52.551 --> 53:03.880 [SPEAKER_02]: Literally this thing comes out and pierces you and then you put your bloody thumbprint on and it basically means you owe that person whatever they would need that, like whatever they want you to do. 53:11.072 --> 53:14.454 [SPEAKER_02]: I have your blood marker, and I need you to do a job. 53:14.934 --> 53:20.857 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is what sets the course for the other two movies and what sets the course for the rest of the stories. 53:20.897 --> 53:26.120 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's these blood markers like he wanted to get out of the life because of his wife. 53:26.500 --> 53:28.241 [SPEAKER_02]: He wanted to have a normal life with her. 53:29.762 --> 53:35.765 [SPEAKER_02]: And he found a benefactor that would be able to pay this debt that he apparently owed. 53:36.949 --> 53:42.614 [SPEAKER_02]: because being in a assassin wasn't a choice, it was just what he was put into. 53:43.955 --> 53:57.265 [SPEAKER_02]: So the blood marker when it comes owed, whoever owns the marker can be like, I need you to kill someone, so it's gonna be a difficult job, but I don't care, because I own you. 53:57.525 --> 54:00.728 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you don't do it, we're gonna kill you. 54:01.944 --> 54:05.271 [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, to me, this is where I'm gonna go like this. 54:05.511 --> 54:07.876 [SPEAKER_03]: It kind of reminds me if you sign up for the military. 54:09.854 --> 54:10.835 [SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's like, we went. 54:11.015 --> 54:12.115 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, well, so imagine this. 54:12.135 --> 54:13.116 [SPEAKER_03]: Except they don't kill you when you leave. 54:13.476 --> 54:16.057 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's, well, I mean, no, I'm joking. 54:16.157 --> 54:18.198 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you probably go to jail. 54:18.218 --> 54:24.421 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but, no, so imagine signing, you know, paperwork that says, one day, I can ruin your life and you legally can't complain about it. 54:24.461 --> 54:31.464 [SPEAKER_03]: And so that, to me, that reminds me of like, you know, if, now granted, when you join the military, I mean, you do volunteer. 54:31.624 --> 54:32.525 [SPEAKER_03]: You are volunteering. 54:32.565 --> 54:34.786 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not like, unless there was a draft inactive, 54:35.640 --> 54:38.423 [SPEAKER_03]: or sorry, that is still actively in effect. 54:39.004 --> 54:43.389 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we're always tentatively in a draft, but the issue is the last time we had this was in Vietnam. 54:43.950 --> 54:46.853 [SPEAKER_03]: But imagine if like you were told, it's what you're gonna be in assassin. 54:47.594 --> 54:48.095 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's what? 54:49.254 --> 54:51.176 [SPEAKER_03]: If you need to have this blood marker done, guess what? 54:52.096 --> 54:53.797 [SPEAKER_03]: I can collect it at any point in time. 54:54.458 --> 54:54.958 [SPEAKER_03]: Here you go. 54:55.959 --> 54:56.560 [SPEAKER_03]: Sucks the sock. 54:56.700 --> 54:57.921 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't do anything if I can't about it. 54:58.181 --> 54:58.381 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 54:58.881 --> 55:09.629 [SPEAKER_02]: You have to accept it, which is, it's the scene where you see it and he just passes it forward and John is like, fuck, take it back. 55:10.725 --> 55:35.991 [SPEAKER_02]: And the guy is like, no, no, not a chance of you did the blood marker and you owe a debt and I'm here to collect it and I mean what the guy did was was pretty fucked up and if you see in the movies like you know like he'd pretty much double crosses them, but it's just the idea like his life was forfeit. 55:37.432 --> 55:46.976 [SPEAKER_02]: when he became an assassin and when he decided he wanted to live a normal life and get out of it because he did this blood marker, it was the only way that he could get himself out. 55:47.856 --> 55:53.038 [SPEAKER_02]: So now when he comes to collect it, he really doesn't have a choice. 55:53.078 --> 56:00.521 [SPEAKER_02]: He has to accept the job and the job was to kill this guy, sister who was a big name, like she and I'll get to the high 56:03.865 --> 56:15.094 [SPEAKER_02]: she was being she was like the next in line for this this seed in the high table and he wanted John to kill her so that he could have the seed at the high table. 56:15.274 --> 56:24.581 [SPEAKER_02]: Of course he wanted that but what he didn't tell John was that he was actually going to be double crossing him and then blame him for basically doing this even though John 56:26.239 --> 56:26.739 [SPEAKER_02]: finished. 56:27.159 --> 56:30.420 [SPEAKER_02]: He finished the job, but he did not hand over the marker. 56:31.321 --> 56:38.123 [SPEAKER_02]: So it was one of these things like he betrayed him and you know, you have to watch the movies, but he John didn't have a choice. 56:38.143 --> 56:44.625 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he had to go through with it, even though the job was like really, really difficult. 56:45.346 --> 56:51.848 [SPEAKER_02]: So the high table, this is like where things get either confusing, 56:53.839 --> 57:08.787 [SPEAKER_02]: Or are you just instantly understand it so everything that rules this world I guess you can almost think maybe maybe Lord of the rings or game of thrones like that kind of fantasy level where there's there's kind of like this ruling. 57:10.888 --> 57:20.794 [SPEAKER_02]: Board right yeah I believe there's 12 seats in the high table and they are you know the families the global reach they. 57:22.295 --> 57:23.476 [SPEAKER_02]: they control everything. 57:24.296 --> 57:30.020 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so basically, like, if they want somebody killed, they send it down the line and then the assassins get it. 57:30.160 --> 57:30.660 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's it. 57:30.800 --> 57:34.063 [SPEAKER_02]: If you are excommunicated, there's a whole process for that. 57:34.103 --> 57:36.604 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, well, so mad, everything goes through this high table. 57:36.824 --> 57:43.529 [SPEAKER_03]: So for me, if you think about it, it's kind of like the, the wealthiest families in all of the world right now. 57:44.349 --> 57:44.709 [SPEAKER_03]: Think about it. 57:44.729 --> 58:03.122 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the raw child and so on and so forth, like you can go down that whole, but like, that's exactly what the hell it sounds like, especially with all the the ship we have nowadays, is that what they're trying to plan, is that what they're trying to say they're like, hey, guess what we're just going to pretend like we don't know that they exist, but they're here and guess what they can do whatever the fuck they want. 58:03.800 --> 58:15.586 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, the high table was, you know, it is just like ruling body like they make the decisions like if you are in this world in John Wick is in this world, the Bowery King is in this world. 58:16.287 --> 58:19.088 [SPEAKER_02]: Winston and Sharon and the continentals are all in this world. 58:19.889 --> 58:23.531 [SPEAKER_02]: The continentals are that they consider them consecrated ground. 58:23.611 --> 58:31.895 [SPEAKER_02]: So much like a church, you know, you could go in there and be safe like right continental for assassins was a it's a consecrated place like they deem it safe. 58:35.198 --> 58:55.667 [SPEAKER_02]: When you get to like, John Wick 3 and 4, because Winston had helped John Wick, they unconsecrate the continental in New York, and so it's no longer, it would be no longer considered a safe zone or safe place like everything would go. 58:56.824 --> 59:01.728 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's, I mean, they can make those rules and they can make, you know, people disappear. 59:02.868 --> 59:13.916 [SPEAKER_02]: And they can excommunicate members of, you know, there are assassins group, whatever they're actually physically called, but, um, I'll move on. 59:14.797 --> 59:25.624 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, I think one of the smartest things that the first movie did was build John's reputation 59:28.607 --> 59:33.495 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, when you watch the movie, you don't really know that he's dangerous. 59:33.535 --> 59:42.689 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, people are terrified of him, but instantly, like, when the shit is a fan and the kid, 59:43.913 --> 01:00:07.273 [SPEAKER_02]: kills the dog, steals the car and doesn't kill John like you instantly know because when he goes to tell his dad, you know, he goes, actually he goes to the the top shop where he's trying to like sell the car over to them and John like was Amo is the guy that runs this 01:00:12.662 --> 01:00:16.024 [SPEAKER_02]: And he goes, you're a fucking idiot. 01:00:16.244 --> 01:00:18.385 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, do you even know who's car this is? 01:00:19.566 --> 01:00:24.829 [SPEAKER_02]: And the kid's like, no, whatever, I just stole it, it's mine. 01:00:25.049 --> 01:00:31.153 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not like, and he's like, you just stole John Wick's car and killed his dog. 01:00:31.713 --> 01:00:33.234 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you're pretty fucked, bro. 01:00:33.254 --> 01:00:35.115 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, and not so many words, okay? 01:00:35.716 --> 01:00:36.036 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, 01:00:37.230 --> 01:01:00.635 [SPEAKER_02]: he goes to see his father like this guy that could just stole the car he and the father already knew because John like was almost character I'd called him and told him everything already and hit some so freaking hard in the stomach and he you know he basically is like that's where you get the you know that he killed three men with a pencil story you get 01:01:04.115 --> 01:01:07.957 [SPEAKER_02]: not just send the kill somebody, but you would send him to kill the bogey man. 01:01:08.938 --> 01:01:09.698 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, you have that. 01:01:09.718 --> 01:01:30.110 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, 01:01:31.102 --> 01:01:38.445 [SPEAKER_02]: He feels almost like this like you feel this like supernatural thing like yeah, he killed three guys with a pencil and a bar because he could. 01:01:39.765 --> 01:01:46.748 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's like you hear these stories and then like you actually see what happened and then you see him you know getting up and cleaning. 01:01:48.433 --> 01:02:07.369 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you see I'm digging up the crate and you're like, oh fuck, something's You don't you don't get there unless you hear all of these other characters like telling these stories And it's repeated in John Wick two when he goes to visit his brother who actually is the person who was holding the car 01:02:09.097 --> 01:02:16.039 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's telling like one of his, you know, one of his, his henchmen every villain, like they're all at the end. 01:02:16.059 --> 01:02:16.219 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 01:02:16.279 --> 01:02:17.019 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:02:17.379 --> 01:02:23.960 [SPEAKER_02]: But he's telling him that same story, like he killed three guys with a fucking pencil, like what a fucking pit, like he's all a little fuck. 01:02:24.180 --> 01:02:28.281 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, then, don't seriously, did he go with a fucking pencil, like like that? 01:02:28.301 --> 01:02:30.001 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he has a, a, a, a Russian. 01:02:30.602 --> 01:02:31.042 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah. 01:02:31.082 --> 01:02:33.602 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's time to like you were like, it was just, I don't know. 01:02:33.642 --> 01:02:34.722 [SPEAKER_03]: It was somewhere at accident. 01:02:37.720 --> 01:02:38.881 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what you were talking about. 01:02:38.901 --> 01:02:41.262 [SPEAKER_02]: No, he killed, you know, he tells us story again. 01:02:41.282 --> 01:02:50.666 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's honestly, it's like the repeat of that like, everybody knows John Wick and they know like the story, they know the history. 01:02:51.307 --> 01:02:55.949 [SPEAKER_02]: And then you hear it repeated and it's like, oh, shit. 01:02:56.009 --> 01:02:59.091 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like John Wick and all of a sudden he shows up. 01:02:59.351 --> 01:03:02.352 [SPEAKER_02]: And he's just killing everybody left and right, right. 01:03:02.672 --> 01:03:03.713 [SPEAKER_02]: Trying to get this car. 01:03:05.372 --> 01:03:18.198 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that's just the thing like the characters and everybody that's in these movies are just so brilliantly done. 01:03:19.819 --> 01:03:30.484 [SPEAKER_03]: So my question to you Matt is, if they never chose Keanu Reeves as John Wick, who do you think that could be a good replacement? 01:03:30.784 --> 01:03:33.245 [SPEAKER_03]: If any, that could, you know, 01:03:35.700 --> 01:03:46.366 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's like, it would be very hard to imagine like a world with Adam a world that John Wick is not count on Reeves. 01:03:47.447 --> 01:03:56.453 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just asking because I feel like, you know, when you look at other movies like we, you know, we've talked about like, you know, what if like, I don't know, let's say Arnold Schwarzenegger was an 01:03:59.862 --> 01:04:03.943 [SPEAKER_03]: or like Terminator, or like, you know, Sevester Stallone wasn't Rocky or Rambo. 01:04:04.203 --> 01:04:08.625 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, like, who would play those characters, you know, and try to do the same exact job? 01:04:08.645 --> 01:04:26.470 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, when we're talking about, like, we've talked about right now with John Wick, you know, is, like you said, like trying to figure out who could play him, you know, and try to do the same exact thing, and like, you're right, I don't know if you probably could. 01:04:27.598 --> 01:04:31.240 [SPEAKER_03]: Pick somebody else that could do the same exact, you know, type of. 01:04:31.600 --> 01:04:33.141 [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know. 01:04:33.322 --> 01:04:49.712 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, people, I mean, people on Reddit say like Mads, Mikkelson, but I mean, there are a whole lot that be like no Kianu, no John Wick, you know, right, say because like, 01:04:50.687 --> 01:04:56.315 [SPEAKER_02]: the like whoever you pick, but people, I mean, people do say, you know, Christian bail is one that's in here. 01:04:56.335 --> 01:04:59.138 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't quite know Tom Hardy. 01:04:59.479 --> 01:05:00.440 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about Tom Hardy. 01:05:00.460 --> 01:05:01.822 [SPEAKER_02]: He's kind of a too big. 01:05:02.923 --> 01:05:04.005 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, it's tough. 01:05:04.405 --> 01:05:08.030 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you have to, like, you know, when you think of like a lot of movies, like, 01:05:08.770 --> 01:05:19.773 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, when I know you and I joked about like Spider-Man, you know, when we were like, you know, when you look at Toby McGuire, and you looked at, you know, Tom Holland, and you look at, um, got again, remember the other guy. 01:05:19.933 --> 01:05:21.093 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't remember the other guy's name up. 01:05:21.113 --> 01:05:23.674 [SPEAKER_03]: Tom, he had, um, but you look at all three of them. 01:05:24.474 --> 01:05:24.754 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 01:05:24.834 --> 01:05:26.235 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you're thinking, which one's the best? 01:05:27.375 --> 01:05:34.337 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, but then you say, okay, well, each one had their own special thing about why they played Spider-Man, right? 01:05:34.417 --> 01:05:35.817 [SPEAKER_03]: But I know it's a little bit different than, 01:05:38.605 --> 01:05:44.130 [SPEAKER_03]: But when you have one character committed to a movie in a franchise, and that's all they know. 01:05:45.371 --> 01:06:04.947 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like so, for example, like RDJ, play an Iron Man, like who I don't know if anybody else could play that role, it's hard to think like that, especially where you were talking about a phenomenon that has happened for so long now that you're right, I don't know, I agree with you, I don't know if you could probably have somebody else to fit the bill. 01:06:05.932 --> 01:06:11.793 [SPEAKER_03]: and could still play the same role personality, like all the things that we've already been talking about. 01:06:12.573 --> 01:06:15.074 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just, I honestly don't know. 01:06:15.094 --> 01:06:28.557 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there are a lot of, I guess, choices, but I'm right now, I mean, I would say nobody really can pull off that same energy that Keanu had. 01:06:30.587 --> 01:06:43.694 [SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, looking at some of the other characters, and we talked a little bit about some of the other characters, but you also have Cain, and I forget who actually plays Cain. 01:06:43.714 --> 01:06:47.016 [SPEAKER_02]: Let me look him up, but you have Cain. 01:06:47.056 --> 01:06:53.019 [SPEAKER_02]: He was big in one of the other movies I want to say for. 01:06:58.540 --> 01:07:03.724 [SPEAKER_02]: of Cain's character or how he knows John Wick. 01:07:05.685 --> 01:07:09.048 [SPEAKER_02]: Donnie and that's who was, oh, okay, I know who he is. 01:07:09.068 --> 01:07:21.337 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that two played Cain and he's actually getting his own upcoming film that is based obviously in that I just find it on Wick universe. 01:07:21.877 --> 01:07:25.140 [SPEAKER_03]: I find it interesting that you know, based off of franchise. 01:07:26.622 --> 01:07:34.193 [SPEAKER_03]: they're now making a whole universe out of it and they're making these spin-offs and trying to like build this world in a sense. 01:07:34.774 --> 01:07:37.338 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's not many movies can build. 01:07:38.893 --> 01:07:41.274 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, these like this universe type thing. 01:07:41.334 --> 01:07:51.836 [SPEAKER_02]: I honestly, I mean, the information that we have from the four movies, like you get a little bit more from each one, but you don't get the, like, you never get the full story. 01:07:52.656 --> 01:07:55.697 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that's like, you can do so much. 01:07:55.917 --> 01:08:06.939 [SPEAKER_02]: And for me personally, I mean, I would love to see more of Kianu before John Wick one. 01:08:08.188 --> 01:08:17.956 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, because when you when you watch the movies, like you know that in order to get this Blood, you know, this blood oath that he did to get out of the life. 01:08:18.417 --> 01:08:24.942 [SPEAKER_02]: He had to do this impossible task like nobody other than him has really accomplished this feet. 01:08:25.323 --> 01:08:29.106 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying you want like I like a pretty cool. 01:08:29.306 --> 01:08:35.871 [SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see like some prequel movies done with for John Wick that showed like how we gone to the life like 01:08:36.913 --> 01:08:40.776 [SPEAKER_02]: doing this impossible task because it was designed for him to fail. 01:08:41.696 --> 01:08:48.461 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, they gave him an assassin task that was impossible for him for anybody to complete and he did it. 01:08:48.781 --> 01:09:00.610 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, so my question is is, because, you know, the problem is is that if they were going to use counterweaves again to use him as like the prequel, they're going to have to use CGI. 01:09:01.527 --> 01:09:02.309 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, not necessarily. 01:09:02.329 --> 01:09:03.251 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they get you to make up. 01:09:03.331 --> 01:09:10.006 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I get that, but two degree, but then at the same time, would you want somebody else to play a younger version? 01:09:10.026 --> 01:09:11.409 [SPEAKER_03]: Because you know, Hollywood would do that. 01:09:11.810 --> 01:09:11.951 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 01:09:12.715 --> 01:09:26.962 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's going to be the issue because I mean, unless they're showing him as like a kid or a teenager fine, but I think if you're showing him as an adult, well, what if he's like, maybe maybe maybe do him without the beard, you know, maybe maybe, maybe shorter hair, there's a lot you can do. 01:09:26.982 --> 01:09:32.384 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they did Kurt Russell and him in the Marvel movie that did not have CGI. 01:09:34.265 --> 01:09:36.946 [SPEAKER_02]: So if you realize how old fucking Kurt Russell is right now. 01:09:39.188 --> 01:09:39.888 [SPEAKER_02]: When he played. 01:09:41.237 --> 01:09:45.121 [SPEAKER_02]: Chris Pratt's father that was and and they showed him like in the past. 01:09:45.882 --> 01:09:48.364 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I was fucking make up that wasn't CGI. 01:09:49.185 --> 01:09:53.369 [SPEAKER_03]: I I understand so I'm just saying depending on the ability. 01:09:53.449 --> 01:09:54.951 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying there's not a possibility. 01:09:55.031 --> 01:09:56.853 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying that you know how Hollywood is. 01:09:57.997 --> 01:10:05.440 [SPEAKER_03]: and either they'll, they'll maybe do that or they'll probably find somebody younger that looks close enough, because the only one I could think of. 01:10:05.480 --> 01:10:06.440 [SPEAKER_03]: Nobody would fucking want you. 01:10:06.480 --> 01:10:07.160 [SPEAKER_03]: I can guarantee you. 01:10:07.501 --> 01:10:08.221 [SPEAKER_03]: So okay, hold on. 01:10:08.301 --> 01:10:10.362 [SPEAKER_02]: You do a John Wick movie without Keanu Reeves. 01:10:10.402 --> 01:10:11.162 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's gonna want you. 01:10:11.182 --> 01:10:11.822 [SPEAKER_03]: So what it? 01:10:11.882 --> 01:10:12.803 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, hold on. 01:10:13.143 --> 01:10:14.483 [SPEAKER_03]: What if you had Adam Driver do it? 01:10:15.644 --> 01:10:16.324 [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck Adam Driver. 01:10:18.815 --> 01:10:22.576 [SPEAKER_02]: You cannot do a John Wick movie with John Wick and not have count of Reeves. 01:10:22.716 --> 01:10:23.997 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying that. 01:10:24.057 --> 01:10:39.261 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying You want to I mean you want to know why the ballerina was mildly successful because John Wick was fucking in it Okay, if you did not have John Wick actually in that movie that movie would have bombed Sort of like super curl is now 01:10:43.604 --> 01:10:51.087 [SPEAKER_03]: But I'm just saying, you know all this is gonna work, man, I'm not disagreeing with you, but Hollywood is gonna pull some shit if they decide to do it. 01:10:51.147 --> 01:10:55.389 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if they ever decided to do that, you would 100% have to use counter-reaves. 01:10:55.429 --> 01:10:58.230 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's not like he looks like a 55-year-old guy anyway. 01:10:58.250 --> 01:10:58.890 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know what I mean? 01:10:58.910 --> 01:11:00.291 [SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't look like he's 50s. 01:11:00.351 --> 01:11:02.652 [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on, I think he's a little bit older than that. 01:11:02.852 --> 01:11:03.773 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think he's 55. 01:11:03.953 --> 01:11:06.974 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty sure he's a lot older than that, let me see. 01:11:07.294 --> 01:11:09.395 [SPEAKER_03]: Cause I'm curious about his age, but keep talking. 01:11:10.486 --> 01:11:12.087 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, you know, actually my bad. 01:11:12.427 --> 01:11:13.708 [SPEAKER_03]: He's 61 years old. 01:11:14.108 --> 01:11:16.849 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, but he does not look like he would be 61. 01:11:17.050 --> 01:11:18.010 [SPEAKER_03]: I never said he didn't. 01:11:18.130 --> 01:11:21.472 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just telling you that that's that's exactly how old he is right now. 01:11:21.592 --> 01:11:21.892 [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever. 01:11:22.813 --> 01:11:28.536 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but yes, I don't think that they would be able to to successfully do a John Wick without John Wick. 01:11:37.040 --> 01:11:44.666 [SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, we would probably never see another Indiana Jones movie and our fucking lifetime And I'm gonna say this. 01:11:45.506 --> 01:12:00.658 [SPEAKER_03]: That's okay because I feel like well, here's the other thing right because like you could then also say You know, hopefully it's not to the point of Like the fast and freer's films Right, do you know what 10 fucking films okay? 01:12:01.258 --> 01:12:03.520 [SPEAKER_03]: You want enough where it's a good enough story 01:12:04.874 --> 01:12:22.515 [SPEAKER_02]: But you don't want to go 10 fucking films because after a while, you're going to like all right, because what they do is instead of like having somebody who, you know, could play a younger version, and that's another whole, I mean, I'm not going to go down a rabbit hole here, but Indiana Jones is also another fucking series of movies where 01:12:23.834 --> 01:12:33.762 [SPEAKER_02]: what he was maybe in his 30s, 40s, but you don't see him in his 20s when he was probably in his prime doing the same bullshit he was doing in those three movies. 01:12:34.202 --> 01:12:34.382 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 01:12:35.103 --> 01:12:37.585 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not look, you've never seen when he's younger. 01:12:38.045 --> 01:12:50.695 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying I'm not doing what fucking Hollywood does is instead of like having a younger version or doing an actual cool story, they go, well, let's just make indeed a female and everybody will love it. 01:12:52.423 --> 01:13:07.018 [SPEAKER_02]: No, we won't because your story is, you're, your story instantly sucks the minute you said let's make it female, not because it's female, but because that is the premier part of your plot is that. 01:13:08.361 --> 01:13:10.702 [SPEAKER_02]: The new Indiana Jones is now going to be a female. 01:13:10.902 --> 01:13:12.063 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not about the story. 01:13:13.024 --> 01:13:14.905 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just the fact that you're putting in a female. 01:13:15.345 --> 01:13:16.366 [SPEAKER_02]: And I get it. 01:13:16.426 --> 01:13:17.026 [SPEAKER_02]: Like whatever. 01:13:17.046 --> 01:13:18.527 [SPEAKER_02]: Send your hate mail to me and I'll ignore it. 01:13:19.387 --> 01:13:22.489 [SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, we're going back to John Wick. 01:13:23.430 --> 01:13:33.275 [SPEAKER_02]: I think like I said before, each movie just increases like the action from the previous. 01:13:33.295 --> 01:13:35.717 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you have this like red circle nightclub. 01:13:36.798 --> 01:13:48.757 [SPEAKER_02]: The catacombs, which is where he's going to kill this like this woman to fulfill the blood of oath, you have the knife museum that was really fucking cool. 01:13:48.777 --> 01:13:49.518 [SPEAKER_02]: That was a cool fight. 01:13:50.644 --> 01:13:52.886 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, the dragon's breath sequence. 01:13:52.946 --> 01:13:55.387 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even reading that word because I don't like it. 01:13:56.088 --> 01:13:58.870 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, but you have these like iconic action scenes. 01:13:59.670 --> 01:14:01.611 [SPEAKER_02]: They're so well choreographed. 01:14:02.332 --> 01:14:06.335 [SPEAKER_02]: They're easy to follow and each movie raises the stakes. 01:14:06.355 --> 01:14:09.637 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think like you look at all of these movies and. 01:14:12.385 --> 01:14:13.346 [SPEAKER_02]: So I love them. 01:14:13.526 --> 01:14:15.708 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're really, really great movies. 01:14:16.068 --> 01:14:16.949 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to tell you something. 01:14:17.289 --> 01:14:18.210 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you do this. 01:14:18.630 --> 01:14:21.253 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm, because I was looking this out. 01:14:21.513 --> 01:14:24.615 [SPEAKER_03]: So yes, of course, we talked about a cane spin-off film. 01:14:25.276 --> 01:14:32.322 [SPEAKER_03]: They're apparently, I don't know if you knew about this, but there is supposed to be a television series called John Wick under the high table. 01:14:33.178 --> 01:14:39.502 [SPEAKER_03]: and it's set after the events of John Wick four in a world where John's actions have left the criminal world underworld in chaos. 01:14:40.323 --> 01:14:46.287 [SPEAKER_03]: And then there's an untitled anime film, which will serve as I prequel to John Wick. 01:14:46.947 --> 01:14:47.467 [SPEAKER_03]: Of course it will. 01:14:47.968 --> 01:14:49.789 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just letting you know, there is a prequel movie. 01:14:50.149 --> 01:14:54.132 [SPEAKER_03]: Just gonna be an anime film because they don't wanna do live action. 01:14:54.412 --> 01:14:55.012 [SPEAKER_03]: Just so you're aware. 01:14:56.233 --> 01:15:02.217 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like I said, there are, I've heard whispers of a chapter five 01:15:04.167 --> 01:15:10.532 [SPEAKER_02]: What that story is I have no idea, but You know, does this story need to continue? 01:15:10.552 --> 01:15:29.587 [SPEAKER_02]: I I don't I would love to see you continue And I know technically you know in movies Especially superhero movies like when you see an actual scene in the graveyard Where you see the actual grave site of a character. 01:15:30.187 --> 01:15:31.128 [SPEAKER_02]: They're they're fucking dead 01:15:32.190 --> 01:15:44.340 [SPEAKER_02]: But I do feel like that there's enough ambiguity with John Wick that you still kind of like, is he, is he dead? 01:15:45.120 --> 01:15:46.942 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the dude did get shot. 01:15:47.002 --> 01:15:48.643 [SPEAKER_02]: He did fall off a fucking building. 01:15:49.944 --> 01:15:50.985 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 01:15:51.145 --> 01:15:53.067 [SPEAKER_02]: He survived before. 01:15:53.207 --> 01:15:55.769 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's possible that he could survive again. 01:15:56.169 --> 01:15:56.950 [SPEAKER_02]: Is he pampering? 01:15:58.358 --> 01:15:59.939 [SPEAKER_03]: Is he babbling all over again? 01:16:00.780 --> 01:16:01.980 [SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't put it out there. 01:16:02.921 --> 01:16:12.106 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really the question is whether Hollywood would do it successfully, or if they would somehow fuck this up. 01:16:12.186 --> 01:16:16.509 [SPEAKER_02]: Because yes, I wasn't a huge fan of the ballerino. 01:16:17.349 --> 01:16:19.571 [SPEAKER_02]: I thought her as a character was awful. 01:16:20.231 --> 01:16:24.954 [SPEAKER_02]: She was not strong, she was not a great, well-thought-out character. 01:16:27.081 --> 01:16:44.433 [SPEAKER_02]: The saving grace was that Keanu Reeves was John Wick in this movie, but you would think somebody who was training to be in a sassan, yes, she did she want to know, but did she did she physically want to at a certain point? 01:16:44.613 --> 01:16:44.833 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 01:16:46.902 --> 01:16:54.105 [SPEAKER_02]: but she fucked up every part of that movie and it was like, just do the right fucking thing. 01:16:54.125 --> 01:16:58.047 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they literally trained you since you were a small child. 01:16:59.107 --> 01:17:00.448 [SPEAKER_02]: You're a fucking adult now. 01:17:01.508 --> 01:17:05.130 [SPEAKER_02]: Like do the right thing, do it, just do it and just do it. 01:17:05.330 --> 01:17:07.671 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like she had the same training as John Wick. 01:17:09.724 --> 01:17:12.146 [SPEAKER_02]: But somehow, I don't know, I don't know. 01:17:12.506 --> 01:17:12.767 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 01:17:13.627 --> 01:17:16.850 [SPEAKER_02]: So maybe it was the, never mind, I'm not gonna go there. 01:17:17.270 --> 01:17:21.874 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so I guess, so I guess for you, man, right? 01:17:23.476 --> 01:17:31.642 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you can only keep one action franchise from the last 20 years, what would you think would survive? 01:17:31.662 --> 01:17:32.623 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'm gonna give it the choices. 01:17:32.643 --> 01:17:34.305 [SPEAKER_03]: You can only save them one, okay? 01:17:35.085 --> 01:17:35.946 [SPEAKER_03]: And here's the choices. 01:17:38.178 --> 01:17:46.782 [SPEAKER_03]: Mission impossible, born, fast and furious, the raid, or extraction, we had to choose one of those. 01:17:48.082 --> 01:17:51.004 [SPEAKER_02]: Probably would, I mean, out of those, I probably would choose John Wick. 01:17:51.024 --> 01:17:53.765 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like, fuck fast and furious, John Wick, other way. 01:17:54.385 --> 01:18:04.850 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, I probably would choose John Wick because I think John Wick is a franchise that I could see continuing long after, even if you do say 01:18:08.867 --> 01:18:18.456 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that there's enough interesting characters and you could create more interesting characters just from that franchise as a whole. 01:18:20.558 --> 01:18:33.150 [SPEAKER_03]: So you're saying besides just John Wick itself, because of course we understand we got the ballerina and we got the continental, we got you know, cane that's coming out, you know, and all these things that are coming out into play. 01:18:34.298 --> 01:18:39.180 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, because then I, because I didn't realize that the continent of show was based actually in the 70s. 01:18:39.220 --> 01:18:42.802 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, it's kind of like how the continent started. 01:18:43.122 --> 01:18:45.163 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I didn't know that. 01:18:45.203 --> 01:18:46.523 [SPEAKER_03]: I was, because I had to kind of look that up. 01:18:46.543 --> 01:18:51.505 [SPEAKER_03]: I was like, okay, so I see that now so that it's well before definitely John Wick at this point. 01:18:51.826 --> 01:18:51.966 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:18:52.406 --> 01:18:54.967 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, so it's interesting, because like, that's good. 01:18:54.987 --> 01:18:59.149 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad that they, they're kind of giving you some history behind some of these other things. 01:18:59.289 --> 01:18:59.529 [SPEAKER_03]: But, 01:19:00.775 --> 01:19:05.299 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, if there's enough story kind of like when you look at Star Wars, right? 01:19:06.220 --> 01:19:09.664 [SPEAKER_03]: And you can build that universe and try to do, he's like, don't start what's there. 01:19:09.724 --> 01:19:13.608 [SPEAKER_02]: There's enough lore within John Wick that you can do a whole lot with it. 01:19:13.848 --> 01:19:20.955 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's assassins that we probably haven't even met or haven't even been really created. 01:19:22.118 --> 01:19:39.274 [SPEAKER_02]: And you can you can actually go a whole different route with John Wick, you can make it a TV show and have a brand new assassin that is that John Wick level, but is different, you know what I mean, so there's a lot of, there's a lot of room for it to grow if they really wanted it to so then. 01:19:41.302 --> 01:20:08.555 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just going to say it, I mean, I just feel like, you know, when you're looking at a movie like this that is had, you know, pretty, pretty successful, you know, outcomes from this, you know, this franchise and these films and of course now going to be eventually a TV show, all right, what's also kind of mental, you know, I just think that if you're going to keep, you know, action hero movies alive, then I would hope that you would look at John Wick and say, 01:20:09.922 --> 01:20:11.983 [SPEAKER_03]: This is the standard for nowadays. 01:20:12.783 --> 01:20:13.924 [SPEAKER_03]: This is what it should be. 01:20:14.344 --> 01:20:16.365 [SPEAKER_03]: This is how it should look. 01:20:16.525 --> 01:20:21.208 [SPEAKER_03]: If you were going to do it, this is the example that you need to follow. 01:20:21.248 --> 01:20:37.556 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying you have to follow everything about what John Wigs doing, but at least give you that idea of this is the now-adjust standard for this, because 80s and 90s were different and how they were filming and how they were doing it and the characters and actually the actors they were choosing. 01:20:38.899 --> 01:20:40.920 [SPEAKER_03]: Now you have to be a little bit more creative. 01:20:41.721 --> 01:20:44.222 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's like, look, man, I made these books. 01:20:44.862 --> 01:20:46.263 [SPEAKER_03]: Make them into a fucking movie. 01:20:47.463 --> 01:20:48.364 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm just saying, right? 01:20:48.404 --> 01:20:55.708 [SPEAKER_03]: Cause like, you could technically take echo verse and you could make that a whole fucking franchise if you really wanted to. 01:20:55.968 --> 01:21:03.312 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I think you look at John Wick and it's like, you have this level of realism with the action sequences. 01:21:04.050 --> 01:21:06.171 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, it's not like he's just fighting. 01:21:07.191 --> 01:21:09.311 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's no, there's no blood. 01:21:09.331 --> 01:21:10.932 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no wounds that appear. 01:21:12.012 --> 01:21:19.934 [SPEAKER_02]: They're not just shooting these weapons and you never see like weapons going empty. 01:21:20.715 --> 01:21:28.577 [SPEAKER_02]: Right, you know, like there's a level of realism where you see John Wick and you can actually count the shots that he's taking. 01:21:30.260 --> 01:21:47.719 [SPEAKER_02]: discarding a weapon and then taking one from like a dead body, you know, checking, checking if it still is rounds and, you know, he's he's doing all of these things and there's a level of realism that isn't in a lot of movies where you just see people firing guns and it's like, 01:21:49.458 --> 01:21:52.159 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a magazine like it will run out. 01:21:52.699 --> 01:21:56.121 [SPEAKER_02]: It will run out like you can't just fire forever. 01:21:56.141 --> 01:21:57.241 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's the other thing. 01:21:57.462 --> 01:22:07.306 [SPEAKER_03]: You can't take an MG 42 and keep firing it and you're not gonna expect it to be fucking hot by the time it's done because that son of a bitch is gonna go, oh, he shit, that's fucking hot. 01:22:07.366 --> 01:22:07.586 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 01:22:07.706 --> 01:22:10.128 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, there is a level of realism and mean again. 01:22:10.208 --> 01:22:15.032 [SPEAKER_03]: And again, when it comes to like rifles and pistols and things, they will hunt like heat up. 01:22:15.393 --> 01:22:18.335 [SPEAKER_03]: They will heat up after a while because you're shooting for so long. 01:22:18.415 --> 01:22:21.858 [SPEAKER_03]: And then, again, I'm not saying that it, maybe that's the Hollywood thing. 01:22:21.878 --> 01:22:23.580 [SPEAKER_03]: They're like, oh, it's okay. 01:22:23.740 --> 01:22:25.081 [SPEAKER_03]: We're gonna make it cool for you, no minute. 01:22:25.141 --> 01:22:28.344 [SPEAKER_03]: No, real life, weapons get hot, okay? 01:22:28.604 --> 01:22:30.686 [SPEAKER_03]: The more you fire, the more it's gonna get hot. 01:22:31.287 --> 01:22:32.327 [SPEAKER_03]: But I agree with you. 01:22:32.347 --> 01:22:34.049 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if you're showing that realism, 01:22:35.881 --> 01:22:42.048 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, how it would actually be, unfortunately, and I will sort of firefight, right? 01:22:42.088 --> 01:22:44.952 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not saying, right, taking a dragon's breath, shotgun. 01:22:46.414 --> 01:22:51.480 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, and clearing a hole full or two, you know, and just showing that. 01:22:51.500 --> 01:22:53.242 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yeah, I feel after a while, you'd go. 01:22:54.143 --> 01:22:56.404 [SPEAKER_03]: God damn, just my shirt on fire at this point. 01:22:56.424 --> 01:22:58.846 [SPEAKER_02]: Because holy fuck, yeah, no, it would be I. 01:22:59.006 --> 01:23:07.790 [SPEAKER_02]: And yes, I say a level of realism because there is also a level of unrealism with the fights because it's, it's Hollywood. 01:23:07.810 --> 01:23:20.938 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you have to have something something that's not super realistic, but when you get to the even like how he's holding, you know, the weapons and how he's carrying them, how he's shooting. 01:23:21.835 --> 01:23:48.164 [SPEAKER_02]: The magazine checks the way he's unloading and reloading and everything like there's a level of realism that makes it feel immersive like you can see it and it doesn't, you know, you don't just have somebody who's and I've seen movies like this and TV shows where the person shooting is holding a revolver and somehow somehow they've shot well past six. 01:23:52.503 --> 01:23:56.565 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't ever see a reload, but I do keep seeing them firing. 01:23:59.107 --> 01:24:01.808 [SPEAKER_02]: And most revolvers that I know of only have six. 01:24:02.969 --> 01:24:05.290 [SPEAKER_02]: So good luck trying to reload that some of a bitch really quick. 01:24:06.071 --> 01:24:19.038 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I know some, you know, you can see the quick, you know, the little quick, you know, unloaders and reload things that they can put in, but like, you still would have to, it will stick, take some time to put that to shit that you 01:24:19.218 --> 01:24:24.701 [SPEAKER_02]: You still have to take the thing out in one, two, three, and hold on. 01:24:24.821 --> 01:24:26.141 [SPEAKER_02]: I got to reload it. 01:24:26.161 --> 01:24:26.802 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't fire it. 01:24:26.822 --> 01:24:28.162 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't fire it, me, I'm just reloading. 01:24:28.303 --> 01:24:30.303 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh crap, I just dropped all my weapons. 01:24:30.384 --> 01:24:31.484 [SPEAKER_02]: This isn't Call of Duty. 01:24:31.764 --> 01:24:36.046 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, this isn't Call of Duty, or some other fucking other game that you'd play. 01:24:36.466 --> 01:24:38.087 [SPEAKER_03]: Like if you're talking about real life, guess what? 01:24:38.588 --> 01:24:39.408 [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully, you're pretty good. 01:24:39.428 --> 01:24:41.789 [SPEAKER_03]: That maybe you have a pocket that has a full fucking able. 01:24:42.129 --> 01:24:43.650 [SPEAKER_02]: Because hold on, hold on. 01:24:44.030 --> 01:24:45.171 [SPEAKER_02]: I got number five in. 01:24:46.031 --> 01:25:12.953 [SPEAKER_03]: number six won quite fit in there of a bitch I thought I got all the same animal what the fuck there's somebody I have a fucking nine mill I mean that's the thing I mean when you look at it it all I feel like with John Wick you know so here's my question to you real quick okay kind of like to wrap things up and into you kind of you know make sure we understand 01:25:16.675 --> 01:25:30.625 [SPEAKER_03]: So 20 years from now, when people talk about action movies, okay, you know, will they still be asking of John Wick was the best or will they simply talk about action movies as before John Wick and after John Wick. 01:25:32.406 --> 01:25:39.812 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think they'll be talking about it like they do with, I mean, we, how we talk about 80s and 90s action movies. 01:25:41.916 --> 01:25:47.978 [SPEAKER_02]: I still really, really enjoy some of this, maybe not all of them, but like I still really enjoyed diet hard. 01:25:48.018 --> 01:25:51.879 [SPEAKER_02]: I still really enjoy some of these action movies from that era. 01:25:51.999 --> 01:25:52.960 [SPEAKER_03]: I love her, I'm a man. 01:25:52.980 --> 01:25:53.380 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry. 01:25:53.400 --> 01:25:54.740 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not rainbow. 01:25:55.500 --> 01:25:58.721 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I do like rainbow, but I'm just saying I really like Rocky. 01:25:59.022 --> 01:25:59.562 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 01:25:59.622 --> 01:26:02.163 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just demolition man was my jam back in the day. 01:26:02.343 --> 01:26:03.843 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and demolition jam. 01:26:03.903 --> 01:26:06.804 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, definitely demolition man. 01:26:06.824 --> 01:26:07.624 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, man. 01:26:07.644 --> 01:26:08.485 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, there's a jam. 01:26:08.505 --> 01:26:08.745 [SPEAKER_02]: Sorry. 01:26:09.165 --> 01:26:09.325 [SPEAKER_02]: But. 01:26:10.388 --> 01:26:15.411 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think 20 years from now, I mean, you'll be talking about John Wick. 01:26:15.852 --> 01:26:22.656 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, not saying that same vein of being like, I mean, 20 years from now, nobody's going to know if I can lose well as this. 01:26:22.916 --> 01:26:23.597 [SPEAKER_03]: So, hold on a second. 01:26:23.757 --> 01:26:25.618 [SPEAKER_03]: You do realize that this is weird to say this. 01:26:25.838 --> 01:26:27.600 [SPEAKER_03]: The first John Wick film came out in 2014. 01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:31.462 [SPEAKER_03]: Matt, we're only, what? 01:26:31.782 --> 01:26:34.925 [SPEAKER_03]: Eight years away from fucking, it'd be 20 years old. 01:26:35.485 --> 01:26:37.206 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, holy shit is all I got to say. 01:26:40.291 --> 01:26:40.791 [SPEAKER_02]: die hard. 01:26:40.811 --> 01:26:46.175 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, those were 80s, not, you know, I mean, that's 40 years ago, pretty predator. 01:26:46.255 --> 01:26:53.360 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you look at a lot of those and they're, you know, even like early 90s and mid 90s. 01:26:53.400 --> 01:26:55.561 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're still talking 30 years ago. 01:26:55.581 --> 01:26:56.502 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the book. 01:26:56.982 --> 01:26:57.242 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:26:57.402 --> 01:26:58.343 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, shit, depending on. 01:26:59.404 --> 01:26:59.584 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:27:00.024 --> 01:27:00.945 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you're not wrong. 01:27:00.985 --> 01:27:03.306 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, or a little bit past 30 at this point. 01:27:03.326 --> 01:27:06.267 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're still talking about Arnold Schwarzenegger. 01:27:06.287 --> 01:27:08.348 [SPEAKER_02]: We're still talking about some of these movies. 01:27:08.948 --> 01:27:11.609 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you don't, you don't see Arnold and Rocky air sorry. 01:27:11.689 --> 01:27:14.570 [SPEAKER_03]: And so Vester Stallone, you know, playing in movies really much. 01:27:14.710 --> 01:27:20.633 [SPEAKER_02]: And no, I mean, you wouldn't have Creed movies without Rocky. 01:27:21.544 --> 01:27:25.447 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, yeah, well, I mean, granted he's not fighting in the movies. 01:27:25.467 --> 01:27:29.649 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, yes, he's at least making an appearance as himself in the movie. 01:27:29.669 --> 01:27:32.772 [SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, just coaching him in that sense, but I do agree with you. 01:27:32.852 --> 01:27:35.213 [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, just show the characters even if they're older. 01:27:35.233 --> 01:27:46.561 [SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, so even if you had like a John Wick universe, even if you could have like John Wick kind of like become cane, not so much like blind wise, but like like an older mentor of assassins. 01:27:47.281 --> 01:28:01.355 [SPEAKER_02]: I would hope that I would hope when we do hit that 20-year mark that there's much more content than four movies and a show and, you know, we say possibilities because nothing's ever written and stone are confirmed until it's out. 01:28:02.436 --> 01:28:09.063 [SPEAKER_02]: But I would hope that there's more content that comes out and more things that comes out for John Wick. 01:28:10.093 --> 01:28:31.057 [SPEAKER_02]: that just expand that universe more and that 20 years from now, we can be like, you know, yes, there's, you know, right now there's four, but there may be in 20 years, there's six or eight movies, and there's three TV shows, and there's an animated show, and now there's an anime show, you know, this is comic books, and I'm sure right now, there are comic books. 01:28:31.997 --> 01:28:35.338 [SPEAKER_02]: But like, there could be like a ton of content where, 01:28:39.898 --> 01:28:41.700 [SPEAKER_02]: The continental is what it is. 01:28:41.720 --> 01:28:54.311 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it was the greatest show ever created, but, you know, the ballerina, again, wasn't the greatest movie ever made, but I do think, and I hope that in 20 years that there's just more content. 01:28:55.112 --> 01:28:58.755 [SPEAKER_03]: So fun fact, there is comic books for John Wick. 01:28:58.956 --> 01:29:04.561 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a five-issue prequel comic series and it was released between 2017 and 2019. 01:29:07.056 --> 01:29:12.280 [SPEAKER_03]: So just saying, if you do like comic books and Maths, like, I've got to have all five issues. 01:29:12.320 --> 01:29:14.121 [SPEAKER_03]: I need to make sure I collect them. 01:29:14.221 --> 01:29:17.344 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm just going to say this, kind of as a closing note. 01:29:17.504 --> 01:29:23.668 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so I about this, Matt, I will, and I don't say this often, okay? 01:29:24.589 --> 01:29:28.532 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll promise you that I will watch the movies 01:29:29.926 --> 01:29:37.948 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll even take time to watch the TV show and I will get on it because I'm a lot behind the April when it comes to this thing. 01:29:38.488 --> 01:29:42.809 [SPEAKER_03]: And I know you've been on my ass, oh, I have been, and I'll say this. 01:29:42.849 --> 01:29:47.570 [SPEAKER_03]: So I will take the time to fully watch each in every single one. 01:29:48.371 --> 01:29:53.072 [SPEAKER_03]: And I will let you know how I think about them afterwards. 01:29:53.432 --> 01:29:54.952 [SPEAKER_03]: Now, like I said, I did watch the first one. 01:29:55.552 --> 01:29:57.593 [SPEAKER_03]: It has been a little bit, but I'll rewatch it again. 01:29:58.670 --> 01:30:02.513 [SPEAKER_03]: And I'll make sure to fully, you know, invest myself in this. 01:30:02.553 --> 01:30:10.340 [SPEAKER_03]: And because again, because if, if you're saying, what I, what we've been talking about, you know, I, I will give it a shot. 01:30:10.820 --> 01:30:12.161 [SPEAKER_03]: I will seriously give it a shot. 01:30:12.361 --> 01:30:13.862 [SPEAKER_03]: And I will make sure to let you know. 01:30:13.922 --> 01:30:23.751 [SPEAKER_03]: I will give you, I don't know if I would give you a play by play, but I'll give you enough where I could say, okay, you write, you know, or, I don't know if you were right about this. 01:30:24.894 --> 01:30:26.314 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, but I will at least give you the shot. 01:30:26.775 --> 01:30:27.755 [SPEAKER_02]: Just it's just the effort. 01:30:28.315 --> 01:30:30.916 [SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, we should close this thing up. 01:30:30.956 --> 01:30:32.956 [SPEAKER_02]: We've been talking long enough about John Wick. 01:30:33.837 --> 01:30:38.578 [SPEAKER_03]: So so yes, everybody, you know, like we said, we've talked a lot about John Wick. 01:30:38.598 --> 01:30:42.319 [SPEAKER_03]: We've talked, you know, a lot about action heroes and all this other stuff. 01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:47.981 [SPEAKER_03]: And I know, next week, you know, you're you're definitely going to love all about cinematic games. 01:30:48.661 --> 01:30:50.682 [SPEAKER_03]: And whether you like them or not, it's up to you. 01:30:50.762 --> 01:30:51.462 [SPEAKER_03]: But I will say 01:30:57.929 --> 01:30:59.685 [SPEAKER_01]: Because we're a piece from the multiverse.