WEBVTT 00:00.051 --> 00:00.772 [SPEAKER_00]: What is up, everyone? 00:01.052 --> 00:05.696 [SPEAKER_00]: My name is Sean Sheen, back here on Shardog.com for another edition of the Sheen Show. 00:05.716 --> 00:17.265 [SPEAKER_00]: And today I'm reacting to UFC 329 and the main event that we all saw on on Saturday and I, between Conner Gregor and Max Holloway I did. 00:17.285 --> 00:24.531 [SPEAKER_00]: I show up beforehand talking about, I suppose, the buildup, the Irish reaction before the face. 00:25.472 --> 00:40.153 [SPEAKER_00]: and I think just the general feeling and also kind of talking about the fight how I thought I might go and and everything like that and I suppose it's my duty to say I'm afterwards it's it's one of those fight winner who look at 00:40.533 --> 01:06.958 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyone who's watching this who's in MMA fan has seen a million fights like this before like whether it's a quick knockout They're just in the fight really quickly are any early injury like the ones that come to my off some of regular for a lot of the quick knockout are Been asked for versus mass for that are with an injury like Time aspirin versus a court split like fights and I know you're a brigas. 01:06.978 --> 01:07.638 [SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to do that. 01:07.658 --> 01:08.438 [SPEAKER_00]: Remember that as well. 01:08.458 --> 01:08.658 [SPEAKER_00]: Very well 01:08.938 --> 01:20.773 [SPEAKER_00]: I was a night walk or something like that and I ended up like all of those fights, okay, some got a big knockout, but all of them left you feel wanting something, right? 01:21.715 --> 01:24.738 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember at the time I wrote a 4,000 word article. 01:25.379 --> 01:27.620 [SPEAKER_00]: breaking down on my Gregor versus Aldo, right? 01:28.461 --> 01:30.262 [SPEAKER_00]: And the fight lasted what was a turkey in seconds. 01:30.782 --> 01:33.043 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, I don't really better. 01:33.063 --> 01:42.089 [SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of the day, we wanted to talk about, like, of that fight, like the late kicks and the jab and the wrestling and all of that. 01:42.169 --> 01:43.209 [SPEAKER_00]: And we never saw any of it. 01:43.329 --> 01:45.711 [SPEAKER_00]: And you're left very unfulfilled. 01:46.511 --> 01:50.875 [SPEAKER_00]: But after that, I don't, I don't look him back, he became a champion. 01:50.895 --> 01:56.820 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure I've obviously been done to do what he's done in the sport after that, but that's been one of his biggest moments. 01:57.821 --> 02:02.325 [SPEAKER_00]: And you always felt like, okay, that particular night was unfulfilled. 02:03.542 --> 02:15.806 [SPEAKER_00]: But at least we'd be able to go on and, and, you know, something will happen next either to be like, oh no, I rematched that fight that was ruined or, you know, this guy will have to build his way back up or this guy will retire or whatever it might be. 02:16.407 --> 02:22.869 [SPEAKER_00]: Saturday and I felt very different to that, because like, whatever you're expecting a result, right? 02:23.169 --> 02:31.352 [SPEAKER_00]: We're expecting one firewinds, one fire loses, one fire industry actor with the other fire industry actor was, in a sort of a normal way, but that's, 02:32.418 --> 02:36.573 [SPEAKER_00]: That was not the case necessarily for this fight even coming in, like for Connor McGregor. 02:37.862 --> 02:43.463 [SPEAKER_00]: Where he is in his career right now, where he is in his life right now, where he is with the public right now. 02:43.503 --> 02:50.084 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, as I said in the previous, I was very different to America with with Ireland, like the result of this fight in a way. 02:51.345 --> 02:56.926 [SPEAKER_00]: Didn't make any difference, right, to how a lot of people will think about him. 02:57.726 --> 03:00.727 [SPEAKER_00]: I have been thinking about him for a very, very long time. 03:01.487 --> 03:06.428 [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing it would do is like who is his next fight going to be or whatever. 03:08.508 --> 03:11.109 [SPEAKER_00]: various of mission in minute seven yesterday. 03:11.169 --> 03:18.471 [SPEAKER_00]: He'd be like, ah, look, tough one, been out of the cage for five years, give me a patty of him, but next, or whatever it might be, are if you don't want to, like, I want to tell, whatever. 03:19.532 --> 03:32.396 [SPEAKER_00]: But the reaction to that would still have been, especially here in Ireland would still have been, this is Conna McGregor, this is the guy who lost the civil case for sexual assault in 2020 for we want nothing to do with him, right? 03:33.416 --> 03:36.677 [SPEAKER_00]: But at least there would have been like, we know what's going to happen next. 03:37.863 --> 03:43.946 [SPEAKER_00]: This result just, it was a salary result in everywhere, right? 03:44.386 --> 03:46.046 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a really salary result. 03:46.066 --> 03:48.988 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I know it's the paper over here. 03:49.048 --> 03:50.148 [SPEAKER_00]: So you're like, fuck on. 03:50.168 --> 03:51.068 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry I bought that. 03:51.609 --> 03:55.630 [SPEAKER_00]: You know that the first way, but it's like, I'm sorry this event ever happened. 03:55.810 --> 03:57.491 [SPEAKER_00]: I think was the big part of it. 03:57.511 --> 04:00.112 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of the crux of what I'm getting to hear. 04:01.753 --> 04:01.993 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, 04:03.614 --> 04:06.515 [SPEAKER_00]: If for years, I always maintained my Gregor will come back, right? 04:06.856 --> 04:10.497 [SPEAKER_00]: And at time, there was like, maybe he will maybe he won't, who knows? 04:10.938 --> 04:14.339 [SPEAKER_00]: But I always thought he'd come back like deep down, like ask me that question. 04:15.980 --> 04:19.842 [SPEAKER_00]: Next week again, maybe later on this podcast, and I'll see if the answer is in. 04:21.443 --> 04:27.606 [SPEAKER_00]: But like I always had an inkling that might go a little bit like this. 04:28.786 --> 04:29.827 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to mean by that is, 04:32.115 --> 04:48.971 [SPEAKER_00]: around the Michael Chandler fight that was supposed to happen he got injured like I remember I did the podcast after that and it was like literally maybe even that night or whatever I was supposed to be going up to Dublin the next day or the after to go to the press conference and that's all that stuff right and I remember saying 04:50.260 --> 04:55.243 [SPEAKER_00]: Exactly what I said, Dermany God, I always maintain no Gregor will come back, but his biggest issue, right? 04:55.443 --> 05:03.208 [SPEAKER_00]: And we talk about more of all of the surroundings and I mean, his biggest issue took coming back to him fighting for himself, forget about the outside itself. 05:04.472 --> 05:11.739 [SPEAKER_00]: is his body, and his body has let him down so many times down through the years, right? 05:12.459 --> 05:17.203 [SPEAKER_00]: I tweeted last time, my greatest body is continuously broken in front of him for years, he was able to get through it, not anymore. 05:17.704 --> 05:21.347 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's really the crux of it, like that's a big problem as well. 05:22.868 --> 05:23.769 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's a problem for him. 05:23.829 --> 05:24.769 [SPEAKER_00]: It's always been problem. 05:24.789 --> 05:28.631 [SPEAKER_00]: This is he's I believe he's third ACL injury if not for his fourth. 05:29.411 --> 05:32.713 [SPEAKER_00]: He probably even has an undiagnosed one in the indoor summer as well. 05:32.733 --> 05:38.876 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it's his body is always an him now from a year different 13 years ago against Max Halloween and ever since. 05:39.316 --> 05:44.378 [SPEAKER_00]: But when you get older he's now he's I think he's 38 now isn't here 38 next week or something like that. 05:44.398 --> 05:44.939 [SPEAKER_00]: There's it is today. 05:44.959 --> 05:45.279 [SPEAKER_00]: He's birthday. 05:45.299 --> 05:46.559 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like I'm at maybe I'm not sure. 05:48.880 --> 05:50.822 [SPEAKER_00]: and he hasn't fought in five years. 05:50.842 --> 05:52.403 [SPEAKER_00]: He's only won once in 10 years. 05:53.264 --> 05:57.628 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, those injury concerns are not going to get any better. 05:58.328 --> 06:04.414 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, you can do all the yoga you want and you can, you know, touch button in the park with brought back for this camp. 06:05.234 --> 06:10.019 [SPEAKER_00]: But like, if your body lets you down, it's going to continue to let you down. 06:10.399 --> 06:12.781 [SPEAKER_00]: Like McGregor said it wanted to press conferences and he's right. 06:12.801 --> 06:13.242 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he was, 06:13.942 --> 06:27.390 [SPEAKER_00]: up until the the proper thing he was an athlete like he was training non-stop like okay he was you know he was probably hours a bit of a a buy around the town and stuff like that but he was like he was doing everything right and still his body led him down. 06:28.411 --> 06:35.655 [SPEAKER_00]: He's I don't think anyone could say he's been doing everything right for the last five ten years and it's not it's just not going to get any better. 06:36.653 --> 06:55.090 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, that being something now, no one predicted it per se, that the fight wouldn't in three seconds, like it did basically, but it was always a possibility like getting to the fight was always something I had talking about from the Chandrified and trod the build up to this, right? 06:56.051 --> 06:56.231 [SPEAKER_00]: So 06:57.812 --> 07:04.637 [SPEAKER_00]: When I saw that and the fight ended and I was like, he's injured, I'm like, oh yeah, he'll of course he's injured. 07:05.217 --> 07:10.780 [SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't one of those, you know, Max Hollowhead flying triangle him or something like, oh shit, that's shocking. 07:11.121 --> 07:12.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, this wasn't a shocking ending. 07:13.462 --> 07:14.903 [SPEAKER_00]: It was just a sorry ending. 07:15.929 --> 07:23.372 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, and just in every single way, I'm sorry that it's into this way, sorry paid the money for the TNT sports. 07:24.033 --> 07:26.334 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry that we have gotten the where we're gotten to. 07:26.874 --> 07:31.136 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry that I'd be honest from me personally and from a lot of people in Ireland. 07:31.476 --> 07:34.617 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry that karma Gregor is even a thing we still have to deal with. 07:35.998 --> 07:37.999 [SPEAKER_00]: And it was a chaos. 07:39.172 --> 07:51.918 [SPEAKER_00]: That was just my thoughts on it, and just on the fight itself, and I'll talk about some of the reaction then to end it maybe, and my apologies, it's the hottest day, and there's like 30 degrees, and I am pumping sweat. 07:51.958 --> 07:55.819 [SPEAKER_00]: We have no air conditioning, um, look. 07:57.180 --> 08:08.112 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people look conspiracy theories go around every time there's a big fight, every morgue fight, I remember a journalist got into me after the first part of fight, the one back in the day, the morgue or knocked him out with a shot behind the ear. 08:08.613 --> 08:12.958 [SPEAKER_00]: He's like, that's not any graced him, there's no way you've got to knock out that fight was fixed. 08:12.978 --> 08:15.781 [SPEAKER_00]: It was one, the message lies got and I'm like, no, no. 08:16.081 --> 08:26.164 [SPEAKER_00]: That haven't so often shouts like that, not going to like that, but I'll tell him, we saw only a few weeks ago, we're rosy and crannot, that has to be a fix and all it is, started stuff, always, always. 08:26.604 --> 08:37.367 [SPEAKER_00]: And this time, the conspiracy theory I suppose, is that McGregor was carrying an injury in and he went in and, you know, he fought for his money a little bit, maybe like T.J. did a little shoutback in the day. 08:38.227 --> 08:40.468 [SPEAKER_00]: And he always knew it was going to go, 08:42.288 --> 08:53.618 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I don't believe that from what I was here and up until the fight, he was looking great in training, like people in, um, in and around him were like, like, 08:54.829 --> 08:59.754 [SPEAKER_00]: a hundred percent sure he was going to win like that they were like this this is my Gregor of all theories. 08:59.774 --> 09:00.755 [SPEAKER_00]: He's looking really really good. 09:00.815 --> 09:01.916 [SPEAKER_00]: That's what I had hard. 09:02.937 --> 09:06.861 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know John Kevin said that would are you know he's I was going to tell you how you're going to go I'm narrowing. 09:06.881 --> 09:08.623 [SPEAKER_00]: We like I look terrible in training Jesus. 09:09.183 --> 09:11.125 [SPEAKER_00]: He probably going to lose it around like that's okay. 09:11.145 --> 09:16.451 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not going to happen but inside sources like well when that inside sources but around you what you hear around. 09:18.669 --> 09:26.552 [SPEAKER_00]: So, was it just the the jump and the land that injured him? 09:26.652 --> 09:27.052 [SPEAKER_00]: I think so. 09:28.032 --> 09:28.433 [SPEAKER_00]: I think so. 09:28.693 --> 09:34.575 [SPEAKER_00]: Like something I was said that was a lot in color. 09:34.735 --> 09:40.577 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll get around whatever you're like the the most likely outcome the most likely answer is often the answer. 09:41.377 --> 09:52.780 [SPEAKER_00]: and like, I know we looked at the warmer peruvian second halfy shoes and you're like, he actually kept like looking down at his legs, but I might maybe it's only odd after he's looking to resist yellow, whatever it is, right? 09:52.800 --> 10:02.082 [SPEAKER_00]: But it did look odd when you said graphy shoes on his hoblin, I was on the other leg and some people were like, oh, when your leg is injured, your arm is going to hop along the other leg and I'm like, all right, it's okay, it's over. 10:02.902 --> 10:09.347 [SPEAKER_00]: No matter what you say here, it's like flat archers here, it's like no matter what answer I give you, you're always going to believe the arcs flat. 10:09.988 --> 10:12.169 [SPEAKER_00]: And now maybe he was injured. 10:12.190 --> 10:14.732 [SPEAKER_00]: Now McGregor is coming out and he's tweeted and he said he wasn't injured coming in. 10:15.312 --> 10:25.460 [SPEAKER_00]: And I believe from like if you look at that kick jump kick land, he lands on his knee sideways and he's knee snaps. 10:26.221 --> 10:26.381 [SPEAKER_00]: Like 10:27.818 --> 10:29.599 [SPEAKER_00]: That's on video, we all saw it, right? 10:29.920 --> 10:31.881 [SPEAKER_00]: So like, do we need another answer? 10:32.402 --> 10:40.688 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, if you think he was injured before and he landed on it and he gave away because it was already injured. 10:40.808 --> 10:46.733 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, but like, there was a video of him walking in to the arena and he was not how blind he looked fine. 10:47.393 --> 10:56.040 [SPEAKER_00]: The end of the way was like 66 million people have seen, I've seen the video of the way and no one's anything which is very odd, but like, 10:57.268 --> 10:59.650 [SPEAKER_00]: The only thing was a little bit of a hobble while taking these shoes off. 11:00.290 --> 11:04.473 [SPEAKER_00]: So, is that more evidence than him actually landing underneath? 11:04.553 --> 11:06.655 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he just landed underneath and got injured. 11:07.055 --> 11:08.156 [SPEAKER_00]: And what happened after that? 11:08.977 --> 11:10.938 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't look when Gregor tried to fight on. 11:12.019 --> 11:15.542 [SPEAKER_00]: When I was watching at life, you obviously couldn't see the knee snap. 11:15.902 --> 11:17.223 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, he's after slid. 11:17.323 --> 11:20.085 [SPEAKER_00]: The first time he fell like everyone falls on a cake, that happened. 11:20.706 --> 11:22.487 [SPEAKER_00]: And in the second time I was like, well, he's after slipping. 11:23.087 --> 11:25.429 [SPEAKER_00]: And in the third time he slipped again in my opinion, 11:26.670 --> 11:32.692 [SPEAKER_00]: When I was like, genophilators often they put water down in the canvas and they're like, wet the ends of their feet to stop them slipping. 11:33.232 --> 11:34.432 [SPEAKER_00]: It felt like he hadn't done that. 11:34.472 --> 11:36.013 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, he's after forgetting doing that. 11:36.033 --> 11:39.114 [SPEAKER_00]: He needs to do that between rounds or something like that. 11:39.714 --> 11:46.756 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think on the Tard one, when he got back up after the Tard one, you could see him and if you watch him, he pulls his right leg. 11:47.476 --> 11:48.037 [SPEAKER_00]: from under him. 11:48.057 --> 11:49.758 [SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy who knows what knee injury is. 11:49.778 --> 11:50.159 [SPEAKER_00]: He's at it. 11:50.359 --> 11:53.281 [SPEAKER_00]: As I said, what this is he's tired of Ford, ACL injury. 11:53.322 --> 11:56.064 [SPEAKER_00]: If it is ACL, I saw some people saying, MCL, but anyway knee injury. 11:57.285 --> 12:02.590 [SPEAKER_00]: He stands up on his left leg and he pulls his right leg back under his back side and stands up that way. 12:03.531 --> 12:05.773 [SPEAKER_00]: And he knew that he was gone from there. 12:05.793 --> 12:11.418 [SPEAKER_00]: Like on the ground, his face was none of a man was like, oh, God, I need to catch him in a triangle here or something. 12:13.680 --> 12:15.320 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm heart, I need to finish this now. 12:15.380 --> 12:17.101 [SPEAKER_00]: He threw a few upgigs and I think they were them. 12:17.421 --> 12:20.641 [SPEAKER_00]: But when he got back up that last time, he was like the fight's over. 12:21.002 --> 12:22.442 [SPEAKER_00]: Underground, he knew the fight's over. 12:22.822 --> 12:25.322 [SPEAKER_00]: He knew this was just going to end and that's exactly what happened. 12:26.963 --> 12:28.603 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's my thoughts on the fight and on the round. 12:28.623 --> 12:30.123 [SPEAKER_00]: It's just under Irish reaction. 12:30.523 --> 12:37.185 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at my chart, I'll go here and I'll Twitter outside of it and trending in Ireland right now is Nikita Hand. 12:38.500 --> 12:49.863 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you don't want to keep the hand is she's the person in the sexual assault, civil trial at McGregor, that won the case against him back in 2024 and the appeal as well was unsuccessful for McGregor. 12:50.623 --> 12:53.704 [SPEAKER_00]: So that gives you an idea of the Irish reaction. 12:53.824 --> 12:54.644 [SPEAKER_00]: Like a lot of 13:05.404 --> 13:15.208 [SPEAKER_00]: I think if you are to look at every single Irish reaction out, that's a tough thing to do, I suppose, right? 13:15.268 --> 13:21.550 [SPEAKER_00]: Because people are going to say what I'm about to say here is 13:23.632 --> 13:38.895 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it is is bias or whatever, but if you look at every single Irish or action, I would say 97% my de 8% is probably, great, kind of a Gregor gun injured, right now, make up your minds at home, what you think of that, but I'm just telling you what I've seen. 13:39.535 --> 13:50.497 [SPEAKER_00]: I see just an Irish reporter here here in Codingham, who's had a bit of a back and four, I'm a Gregor before, but he covered him in he covers boxing and everything like that he, he drew a den hoating, kind of a Gregor may have torn his ACL, that's an extremely 13:53.418 --> 14:04.839 [SPEAKER_00]: That's in a nutshell the salary action I think that my Gregor has had in Ireland and I think 14:06.605 --> 14:12.108 [SPEAKER_00]: Like I see Lord people like replying to his speak on imagine how Nikita hand felt and felt and how that sort of stuff. 14:12.568 --> 14:21.653 [SPEAKER_00]: Like Terry's just loads of that all over the place and reaction to this isn't like oh Jesus I hear him regrettable but you don't want to see that happen and anyone there reaction is good. 14:21.873 --> 14:25.515 [SPEAKER_00]: We're happy that happened to him and that's 14:26.655 --> 14:45.460 [SPEAKER_00]: That shows you, I think, where Animal Gregory is and I, and right now, um, look, we could talk and have a lot more about a lot of other things around, I don't have that much time, but I think to generate reaction, we saw, I just eventually I suppose before we go, like, the the media's lack of questioning cause, and we're, I think, only one person asked him about it and the lead up. 14:46.320 --> 15:00.529 [SPEAKER_00]: versus the Irish media, the Irish independent, they have a podcast and they talk about my Gregory, they didn't even mention the fight, they talk from maybe 15, 20 minutes about him, and just completely win through why this is an abomination, basically. 15:01.389 --> 15:07.693 [SPEAKER_00]: So what difference will the fight result actually make go on forward? 15:08.914 --> 15:09.935 [SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot, really. 15:10.195 --> 15:11.235 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be honest, like 15:14.182 --> 15:15.303 [SPEAKER_00]: I love MMA. 15:15.403 --> 15:16.503 [SPEAKER_00]: I love talking about the fights. 15:16.644 --> 15:25.029 [SPEAKER_00]: I love talking about, you know, the, the, the banter between fighters are like, you know, there was, so mad happened. 15:25.089 --> 15:27.490 [SPEAKER_00]: I know these lines have to fight or they hate each other or whatever it is. 15:28.090 --> 15:31.432 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't want to, to, to, to, 15:32.413 --> 15:35.735 [SPEAKER_00]: have to cover this, but I will cover it and I have over the last one. 15:36.175 --> 15:40.258 [SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of people don't want to cover it and don't cover it, right? 15:40.698 --> 15:53.145 [SPEAKER_00]: And a little bit like Ned Stark talking to Brian I heard, my guy, my Jimmy Walcott and this guy, the other day, but you know, brand star has names. 15:53.826 --> 15:55.106 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm scared, can I be brave? 15:55.146 --> 15:57.428 [SPEAKER_00]: And Ned said, the only time you can be brave is 15:59.869 --> 16:06.451 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there was a lot of, a lot of scared people going around and not a lot of brave people over the last few weeks. 16:07.071 --> 16:08.971 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's very, very unfortunate. 16:09.291 --> 16:16.593 [SPEAKER_00]: I think, but what we hadn't started in a night was, I think, an appropriate ending to this whole saga. 16:17.213 --> 16:21.634 [SPEAKER_00]: And when I say ending, I think it will be an ending to what I don't, and we'll ever see a kind of regret or fight again. 16:22.254 --> 16:25.795 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that will be the last thing we ever see of kind of regret in mixed martial arts. 16:26.904 --> 16:27.526 [SPEAKER_00]: Alright everyone. 16:27.566 --> 16:28.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much for tuning in. 16:28.849 --> 16:31.837 [SPEAKER_00]: My name is Sean Seein for Shared.com and I'll see you all next time.