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[UNKNOWN]: AI, data, privacy, cybersecurity, across all 50 states and federal, the law changed overnight.
[UNKNOWN]: But this morning, you're not scrambling.
[UNKNOWN]: One coffee, one scroll, every new development that matters, in plain English, reviewed by an attorney linked to its official government source.
[UNKNOWN]: And we are back in the bourbon studios in Indiana P.A.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're off the course.
[UNKNOWN]: All back off the course, Philip.
[UNKNOWN]: Like we were just on the course.
[UNKNOWN]: I spent way too much time on the course last week.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: In the heat.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like 1,000 degrees outside.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was kind of my theme over the holiday week and two, you know, between us starting on the course and when we finished up, it felt like it was a sweltering heat, even though we finished hot in that optimum lubricity zone.
[UNKNOWN]: You did.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you and Lou hit it?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we did.
[UNKNOWN]: You hit it just right after we were in here because he made a comment on that segment.
[UNKNOWN]: We shot in here that we were, what do you say?
[UNKNOWN]: We're seven holes to go and we're a ninth place.
[UNKNOWN]: We ended up winning.
[UNKNOWN]: So do we win?
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that's what you said we placed.
[UNKNOWN]: I know we placed maybe one.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know second or third.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know we probably have a pro show credit That's that's the one to go shopping
[UNKNOWN]: That's good stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Then I went kayaking yesterday.
[UNKNOWN]: Perry almost killed myself.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you hear about that?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, the water, I guess, is done.
[UNKNOWN]: Even after all this water, uh, rain we've had, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So we got stuck, uh, Quinn and I on the, on the rocks, and the one time we had to get out of the, in these rocks are extremely slippery.
[UNKNOWN]: Next thing I know, I'm doing the complete splits in the middle of the river, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Where's the video?
[UNKNOWN]: Please tell me, Tony, I recorded it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I did.
[UNKNOWN]: It was.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, I was about the only pain other than a little bit of sunburn.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you did better than some people do.
[UNKNOWN]: So you had another cigar in the sun today, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, in the shade, but yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, when I got home, just when I was like, oh, I got time to grab a cigar, cooked dinner.
[UNKNOWN]: I still get an app in before we get before I come over here.
[UNKNOWN]: I got two of the three done.
[UNKNOWN]: It's important.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't get the nap though.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to get the nap.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just when that rainstorm hit, I sat down outside.
[UNKNOWN]: It was nice, because I liked the rain when it's not blowing in sideways, it was just a straight down downport.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it seemed like it was nice.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it seems like the storms we got lately have just come blown in like crazy, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, Saturday, I think it was a tornado warning in northern Canberra, I've never heard much more about it, they said that it was either one on the ground or they had picked one up on radar.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't heard anything else about it.
[UNKNOWN]: So we, we filmed late last week because of a, you know, what was going on between lose schedule and myself having a good in New York.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're turning around pretty quickly and filming early this week because we got a special guest not only just a friend of the family, but a very intelligent young lady that's working for Microsoft now and very up and coming there.
[UNKNOWN]: And I can't wait to have her on to that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the talk about, uh, we get lucky to happen to be in.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, we, we were able to catch them before they, they had back out of state.
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh, so we did look in four.
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[UNKNOWN]: That'll boy.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to be talking a little bit with you too, but Matt is God's mind.
[UNKNOWN]: You sent me your revised draft and I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: It went from four to six chapters to now 13.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It looks good.
[UNKNOWN]: I was reading against the advice of Omar.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a strong, it's a strong read.
[UNKNOWN]: Almost still going off the cassette days though.
[UNKNOWN]: You got to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's why you Yeah, it's flip it over.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: I fit the case perfectly with six six six cassettes two sides false I keep acknowledge that that was that was the trend back then right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so that's that's good stuff
[UNKNOWN]: But nevertheless, we've only been out of the studio for three or four days, and the headlines keep rolling, don't they?
[UNKNOWN]: It's very difficult to keep up with it, I know.
[UNKNOWN]: When we were shooting for a brief period of time, every morning, it was tough to keep up with it then.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you have to get them pick and choose what you want to talk about, or we'd spend three hours just doing that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we could do that and borrow our audience to death with that.
[UNKNOWN]: But we are going to talk about some of the major things happening in the AI world, and we were kicking off.
[UNKNOWN]: last week with a few of those things and you know the one thing that's you know heating up out there in the world is the UN actually's talking about AI governance for the first time trying to get the countries together to have these safety regulations in place to figure out how do we protect children first and foremost you know which has been the
[UNKNOWN]: you know, sifting through all these statutes every day and proposed bills that are out there.
[UNKNOWN]: That's been a big push by the states as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't think they're going to get any pushback for most of the countries that are part of the human on that.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're trying to hope not.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so they're just trying to put some safety measures in place that companies and governments can rely on.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not just like the state, it's not this patchwork of different laws that you have to try to, you know, sidestep through and you accidentally hit a line landmine because you got all these different, different requirements.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, we've said we, you and I and whoever else has been on the show the last couple months have, have said repeatedly that,
[UNKNOWN]: There needs to be, it seems to be kind of the wild wild west, at least it did, you know, so it's good to see some structure coming in, even though I'm not a big proponent of government regulation, but somebody's got to do it, and who else could do it?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and that's the other, I think, discussion that they're probably having, and most likely it's not front and center because they don't want to scare everybody at the same time, but they need to be truthful about this, just as our administration has been truthful at these frontier models, you know, need to be,
[UNKNOWN]: He'd be regulated and looked after in some sort of, you know, respect to make sure that they aren't put into the bad actor's hands and get out of control to where it would harm citizens or, you know, the humanity itself.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're getting back to basics, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Every time we talk about this, I can picture my mind as Dr.
[UNKNOWN]: Evil from the Austin Powers, but he's, right, if he got his hands on AI, it'd be bad.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I mean, that's, it's kind of that.
[UNKNOWN]: a lot of bad people in the world.
[UNKNOWN]: But, you know, on the flip side of that, this first half of the year, now that July 1st has come and gone, has seen more investment funding going to AI than any other time.
[UNKNOWN]: 510 billion dollars in venture just domestically.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me see here
[UNKNOWN]: No, this is worldwide.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: This is worldwide.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: This is worldwide investors, but still.
[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: You're talking a half a trillion dollars, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Of money being spent by VC firms that are saying, we don't think there's a bubble, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I, I don't, I agree with the model, I don't think it is either, but as I was saying to my wife the other night, I said, you know, the, I don't know, maybe it was Garrett, but I said, this is the third time, as you wrote in your first block, this is the third attempt at this.
[UNKNOWN]: At least in our country, and this is the first time we actually have the compute power to actually pull it off.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they are pulling it off already.
[UNKNOWN]: They just didn't have the computer power before.
[UNKNOWN]: No electricity is the issue.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I think there are solutions for that, even though some people might not like it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, that's the problem, you know, and we're seeing, you know, potential, especially with this heat wave, we're seeing the electricity grid get stressed out and potential rolling brownouts and it'll be interesting to see how it is in two years from now when we start hitting some of these heat waves like that and every AC's running.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, if they build enough.
[UNKNOWN]: generation capacity, it shouldn't be a problem.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we've been behind kind of on that anyway, haven't we?
[UNKNOWN]: We have.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just, it's going to be exacerbated now with the, yeah, we have, we have, we've had a tired system.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no doubt.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if you look at the, you know, the coal plants, especially we're in a coal plant rich area.
[UNKNOWN]: They were dated, and they were in much need of either updating or turnover.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and that seems to be the, what's happening?
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly, you know, so,
[UNKNOWN]: there's like build more gas plants.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, they're all those turbines out there.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go, Steve, we're nobody.
[UNKNOWN]: You got him.
[UNKNOWN]: There's so much gas.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's so much gas.
[UNKNOWN]: It was valueless, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't at the problem.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, so this is what a great way to use it.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Much cleaner than coal.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, instead of it being tapped into the ground and that we've already drilled put all the infrastructure into to get and these landowners are waiting to see their royalties Now they're going to actually start to produce so it's it's a win-win for a lot of different stakeholders involved, you know, yep agreed So the third headline these are all coming from Gemini again, so I just and this is impartial, so I like the fact that they're it's kind of a self-pitch for docket daily.ai They said that's right
[UNKNOWN]: That's when I was thinking, last week, whenever I was tasked with putting the headlines together, I was like, wow, the stock of the day would be perfect for this.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: So, the United States, the States alone, passed over 109 new AI laws since January 1st.
[UNKNOWN]: I could have given a more accurate number than I was going to say, yes, you know exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's my database actually starts January 1st.
[UNKNOWN]: I can tell you exactly how many ALI laws, as well as privacy laws, as well as data laws, and as well as cybersecurity laws.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, they all interweave with each other in the new era that we are with this internet.
[UNKNOWN]: So, that's how many have passed?
[UNKNOWN]: Those are enacted.
[UNKNOWN]: Already in place.
[UNKNOWN]: Not just the proposed.
[UNKNOWN]: Mind you, mind you the proposed legislation from another 15, 1600 bills that are sitting
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, that makes sense.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's not just AI.
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's still a hundred and nine bills passed in six months across the 50 states.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's probably unheard of.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and and I know there's also another five or six federal Statutes have been passed that they're they're a little bit more of a gridlock on the federal level, but again, over the four pillars not just the AI, right?
[UNKNOWN]: When you're dealing with AI, I mean, a lot of the concerns are, you know, privacy data, all that, so they all intersect cyber security.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's hard to kind of differentiate which law you want to organize them, and that's why we took the four pillar approach, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep, smart, there's always.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and then anthropic, you know, we talked about a little bit of them bringing, you know, fable feedback on, but we failed to mention that they also brought Sonic 5.0 back on.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's a, that's a big upgrade according to all the developers out there that have been using it.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're saying it is as good as they've seen as far as, you know, being able to code do everything.
[UNKNOWN]: It's getting the highest benchmark ratings of anything that we've seen.
[UNKNOWN]: So I have not had a chance to use it since they released it last week.
[UNKNOWN]: I used all my API credits up right away in the first month weeks.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to have to wait till next month to give my own two cents on that.
[UNKNOWN]: But if it's anything like the lower levels and it's as good as they say, I can't wait to have it look at it, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: That's the model you use for your, for your talk to daily, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, cursor, I use cursor.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the platform that Elon bought with SpaceX's IPO money the first week.
[UNKNOWN]: But it gives you a pull down menu where you can select all the different models.
[UNKNOWN]: So what's the difference between cursor and sauna?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, well, cursor both are both used for coding.
[UNKNOWN]: Cursor is a coding platform where you're within the terminal.
[UNKNOWN]: So now, Sonnet is one of the LLM models.
[UNKNOWN]: OK, I got it.
[UNKNOWN]: Like chatGPT 5.6 that we're talked about that was coming out but it's sitting behind the, that's the next headline.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about it in a second.
[UNKNOWN]: But you can pull down the pull down menu and you can choose chatGPT 5.4 or you can choose Sonnet 4.
[UNKNOWN]: Composer to all these different models you can go right down, you know, so it gives you the flexibility to do so and and that's a If you have preference as a quarter and some like like we're talking about with a different platforms for the consumers, I mean there's different strengths and weaknesses to each one of those so, but Claude's
[UNKNOWN]: You know, Claude's been ahead of the game on on on on on the coding and read deep reasoning, you know, you've you've held to that for quite some time Well, it may change you never know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean it depends, you know, you know, we're we're things shift
[UNKNOWN]: so which is every hour.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, where's the money going to be spent and who where's the talent going to go, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the that's kind of the flow of I was going back and forth and right now it's like the big leagues in the tech world.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they're they're the contracts are are flowing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So you talk about the investment to 500 and some odd billion dollars.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Where's that going to the commongos or mangos?
[UNKNOWN]: It's a combination to the data centers in the LLLM training model and then the platform.
[UNKNOWN]: You have all these different, I would say, three or four different segmented areas.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure if they're including the electricity build out in that as well, because that's a whole other major.
[UNKNOWN]: If you look at the infrastructure, if you consider the build out of the turbines
[UNKNOWN]: That's a, that's a, that's a whole separate segment that's kind of piggybacking or having to go along with it.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, the, the GDP that's going into into this infrastructure build out is incredible.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I agree with that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's the dollars are insane.
[UNKNOWN]: They are insane.
[UNKNOWN]: They are.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, we talked about 5.6 coming up, but that's behind, kind of a paywall right now, paid a play.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's under the new, you know, the opening eyes, you know, 5.6, Jackie B.T., which is, you know, thought of the B, just as good as, just as good as anthropics, fable.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody really knows yet, but because there's only 20 preferred partners that are part of this whole that's gated community, the government is working out a deal, which I'm guessing is going to look much like the regulated self-regulated agreement that anthropic in them entered into, because again, who in the government is going to understand these cutting-edge brand new frontier models to be able to say whether or not it's going to propose a risk or not, and whether it's
[UNKNOWN]: You have to kind of self-regulate, and then you kind of basically back into it by the harms that are caused, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the only way I think it can happen.
[UNKNOWN]: You're probably right, I mean, how else could it happen?
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like somebody at government houses going, oh no, I see what you're doing there.
[UNKNOWN]: you can't do that.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't know what they're doing.
[UNKNOWN]: I almost analyzed it to kind of as when you take an oath and you get up on the stand and you swear by everything that I so a is going to say and be true and at the end of the day if it comes out not to be true guess what now there's going to be federal ramifications as it has to result.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah I need to set the hope that that's enough to make them want to keep it you know keep it legit keep it straight narrow.
[UNKNOWN]: Well you hope right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes we'll see.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah so
[UNKNOWN]: Now, the one last thing I do want to talk about in headlines because it's interesting in the coding world and let's get hub co-pilot, okay?
[UNKNOWN]: And that is the biggest preferred and has always been kind of the staple for all the true long-standing coders that have been out there, you know, there's an open, you know, kind of sharing of
[UNKNOWN]: call them recipes of the code, you know, where you can kind of utilize it.
[UNKNOWN]: And before this recent announcement, you were kind of stuck with the pull-down menu.
[UNKNOWN]: You had to use anthropic or you had to use chatchip, BT, or you know, one of these models that are corporate driven.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a gentleman by the name or there's a model by the name of Kimmy K2.7 code.
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to make sure I read that properly because it's supposedly supposed to be a very good model.
[UNKNOWN]: And they dropped it in there and it's instead of having to pay a monthly usage fee like he would for the enterprise packages in the open AI or anthropic worlds, you get this essentially for free.
[UNKNOWN]: and you don't have to pay per seat and so we're really becomes an issue is on the bigger enterprise level.
[UNKNOWN]: For example, if a fortune 100 company has a team of engineers and we saw how they kind of got burnt by using anthropic boom boom boom, boom boom, you get all these different seats are getting charged for everybody's using it.
[UNKNOWN]: You can really get burnt.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you can still get burnt by the usage because they're going to be charged by the usage.
[UNKNOWN]: You just don't have to pay that monthly fee per seat so that's a big savings possibly for a very similar type.
[UNKNOWN]: quality product that you can take and then mold into your own.
[UNKNOWN]: Who's the parent company of that product?
[UNKNOWN]: Now that was dropped by, uh, oh, I had that pair.
[UNKNOWN]: You mentioned GitHub.
[UNKNOWN]: It will get hub is the platform, uh, get hub co-pilot.
[UNKNOWN]: And the, uh, moonshot.
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm, moonshot AI.
[UNKNOWN]: There's all these partnerships and I've talked about Adobe, I used a lot of the Adobe products and they have, they use something banana, I forget what was called that was a Google's product for a while.
[UNKNOWN]: So they have a lot of, they have these partnerships imaging, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, for image generation, image editing, gender, generative AI, all those things, and they have them build in, but they're not theirs.
[UNKNOWN]: They've tried to say gendered, didn't you?
[UNKNOWN]: Generative.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I'm sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why I started with that work.
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of like, I'm feeling like the bourbon home.
[UNKNOWN]: generative AI and they so but it's not Adobe's product like I guess they figured what's the point in reading that wheel and they partner with others because I noticed I could pick and drop down in Photoshop or Illustrator you can pick different engines to use a one with the banana one I could never remember the what that was called but I
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
[UNKNOWN]: I like, I mean, and I think it is, why invest all that money and just build it in so that people have access to it.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: There's people that are using it in Adobe.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't really give a crap who wrote it.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but they do want quality.
[UNKNOWN]: So in that banana one at the point at that point in time was the top quality one.
[UNKNOWN]: Is this still one of the pulled down menu options?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't looked.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll check.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because I think Gemini Flash may have replaced it.
[UNKNOWN]: or at least it's the latest model of what they're doing with yeah what's the other Gemini model they came out with that I was telling you I wasn't flash it was a oh boy
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but they're about, oh, yeah, oh, how's that for next week?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's kind of the same thing in the coding world.
[UNKNOWN]: You get all these different options, you know, to to utilize and and and you definitely want to be using the the top ones, you know, in Gemini right now, I've been using it for imaging and video editing.
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's pretty pretty powerful right now as far as that goes.
[UNKNOWN]: So one last headline, Microsoft decided to lay off 4,800 employees today, basically cutting back on the Xbox and sales force a little bit, but I truly believe it's a shift of priorities as to where they're going to spend their funding as we talked about the Frontier Innovation Project that they launched last week.
[UNKNOWN]: by embedding their engineers and 6,000 engineers into their enterprise clients to help them build out their agentic and customized platforms.
[UNKNOWN]: Instead of them having to go out there and take that risk of trying to hire these experts like I said, there to get somebody like.
[UNKNOWN]: what Microsoft is providing, you have to go pay you know, baseball type salaries.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so they're in high demand and to be able to offer that as a service, you know, that forward, that forward, engineering, you know, deployment is, is amazing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's pretty cool.
[UNKNOWN]: Pretty cool model.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we talked about that last week.
[UNKNOWN]: We did that was the headline last Thursday.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, but yeah, everything can keep shifting and changing.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's what's the to come.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they are definitely making a difference in the marketplace all around.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: We come back, we have a Microsoft employee with us, and we get to talk with her and talk about what she's seeing from her end of the world.
[UNKNOWN]: It's amazing where Microsoft's going, where it's been.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a household name.
[UNKNOWN]: That's synonymous with computers and computing and operating systems.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it flows systems everything and the one thing I'll say is this you know you have you have this new mango You know of tech companies, but that used to be different, you know, they used to be you know IBM and used to be you know Apple used to be well, they're still the M and mango, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, there is that's what I'm saying, you know, so that that
[UNKNOWN]: That's my point.
[UNKNOWN]: They've survived the new shift, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And Google has, too, and this latest, you know, around as they're a fairly new company compared to some of the older companies.
[UNKNOWN]: The amount of money these companies are spending, keeping up with this stuff is just blows your mind.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and it's the ones that are sitting on a pile of cash.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a big advantage over the newcomers like IP, you know, IP, you know, workflows and products than in subscriber base and that's one thing, you know, Microsoft and Google has over any of these newcomers, you know, and yeah, for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: An anthropics, the only newcomer that's ship that into a profit zone, everybody else is kind of operating at a loss right now kind of doing the Amazon model keep investing keep investing until it hits right.
[UNKNOWN]: work for him.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it works out off him, but it didn't for him.
[UNKNOWN]: It did.
[UNKNOWN]: And Amazon is in the mix of that mango formula.
[UNKNOWN]: So when we come back, we're going to crack into this bottle of KC's broth for us.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much for bringing this.
[UNKNOWN]: And we'll talk about that.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're going to get into what's going on in Microsoft in the world.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll be right back after this.
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[UNKNOWN]: Great.
[UNKNOWN]: I was so happy when I bumped into you guys at the pool the air day and saw that you guys were in town for the 4th of July weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, oh my gosh.
[UNKNOWN]: And you mentioned, you know, maybe we could, you know, I was talking to Microsoft, you're like, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: When can you get you on, you know, as you guys going to be here for a while and you're like, yeah, so we are filming early, which is fine with me because I mean, just to have this conversation, you know, we've been talking a little bit over the last, you know, since the first book came out a couple of years.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh, you introduced me to your, uh, when you're, uh, one of the gentleman that you work with at Microsoft Ross Smith, he's, he's been there for, uh, you know, there's probably
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's been there for quite a while.
[UNKNOWN]: He's on my team now.
[UNKNOWN]: So shout out to Ross.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no doubt in this.
[UNKNOWN]: If I say, I podcast you.
[UNKNOWN]: He does.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's got a great foundation.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I got the meeting on a Zoom call.
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks to you and appreciate the introduction.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a wonderful, wonderful, he talented writer.
[UNKNOWN]: He sent me his book that he had done at that time.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think he came up with AI for the classroom sense.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so what's funny about that is Ross did that book and my current manager at Microsoft Shoutout to Emily was a co-author on that, too.
[UNKNOWN]: So, small world.
[UNKNOWN]: Really is a small world, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, Ross initially, the book that was referencing early on was AI for customer support, so we're better to figure out AI for customer support than Microsoft.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're talking about,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we've talked about how Microsoft has been embedded, you know, AI into its 365 workflow.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't even have to be an AI person necessarily or have to go out and find it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to find you.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a tool that's just, it's ready at your ready disposal.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's one of the benefits about working at Microsoft is that it feels like a playbox or a sandbox or like a better term where you can kind of just go and explore.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you don't figure it out, there's definitely a colleague that can point you in the right direction or say, hey, have you checked out this tool or this new skill, that type of thing?
[UNKNOWN]: So it's really interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like it's evolving so quickly and so exponentially for lack of a better term.
[UNKNOWN]: But being at Microsoft and being in this revolution of AI is inspiring, sometimes they can get just like everybody else, the velocity is so fast.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's encouraging knowing that you have a ton of other people that are playing around with it too.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and you have a lot of folks with folks like Ross that have a lot of experience had been through the different cycles.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, this cycle, I would say, is probably the super cycle of all cycles that we've seen at least in my generation.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we went through the internet boom back in the day.
[UNKNOWN]: We went through the email, you know, craze when the email first came out like, oh, can you believe you can send a digital message?
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to go through the postal mail?
[UNKNOWN]: That was eye tech.
[UNKNOWN]: Then the internet came out.
[UNKNOWN]: and we thought that was a crazy tech boom.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the AI revolution, this revolution, you know, because they've tried to do it like we talked about before a couple times, you know, over the, you know, back to the 1950s.
[UNKNOWN]: So this one is actually going to be sustainable.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, it's putting a stress on different levels currently because that's moving so quickly.
[UNKNOWN]: the infrastructure hasn't caught up to it yet, but it will, and there's a lot of creative minds out there that are, you know, saying, maybe instead of putting data centers all around the earth, we're going to put them into orbit.
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe we're going to throw them in the ocean.
[UNKNOWN]: We got these pods, no, in the ocean, or maybe we put them in the bottom of the ocean.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we put them in these caverns under the ground.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're getting creative in all these different ways, and not only that, but the chip makers are now getting creative to figure out how they can, you just less electricity, you know, the inference level is to where they're going with it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's incredible.
[UNKNOWN]: To be at Microsoft, and be a part of this, and in my opinion, it's at the very infant stage still.
[UNKNOWN]: I still think you're standing outside in the line to the concert waiting to get in, because the big show hasn't even started yet, especially with quantum, you know, on the back backdrop, and that changes, and when Eric comes on, we'll talk a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: we've been talking about quantum, and where that goes, because unlike the linear progression of how we've gone with software advances in these platforms, this gets incredible.
[UNKNOWN]: So, how are you guys using in your day-to-day operations, AI?
[UNKNOWN]: I'll speak for myself and say, well, first off, we just celebrated at Microsoft recently 50 years of Microsoft, so when you go on campus, you see, like, Clippy around.
[UNKNOWN]: And I remember when Clippy came out at the time, we're like, wow, this is cool.
[UNKNOWN]: Jump it around on the screen and being able to engage with it.
[UNKNOWN]: So that was I deck to you.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the real Clippy.
[UNKNOWN]: I have not met the real clippy in person, but there is a strong push for clippy coming back.
[UNKNOWN]: Gotta bring them back.
[UNKNOWN]: But you have co-workers who were there from the beginning, 35, 40 years, so from their perspective and learning their insights of the evolution of even their role within a same company is really mind-blowing.
[UNKNOWN]: but I'll speak on the experience of on my behalf.
[UNKNOWN]: So I've I've been in the tech space and communication space specifically for many years and one thing that I'm finding is it's definitely changing the way I do my role but it's also making me grow in a way that I didn't think was possible.
[UNKNOWN]: I went to school for broadcasting, and that's what I was really passionate about with story telling and getting to hear the customer's point of view or the person down the street and sharing that information.
[UNKNOWN]: Well now that I'm in like corporate communications for a generalized bubble,
[UNKNOWN]: we have to get creative with our internal audience.
[UNKNOWN]: So how are we telling those success stories?
[UNKNOWN]: How are we getting into those niche areas that need to have light a little bit more?
[UNKNOWN]: And AI is really helping us get more creative.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't lean on it to tell my story.
[UNKNOWN]: I lean on it to help me build an outline or where the pockets in our business that could really get some light shed on it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's great to hear, because that's exactly how I use it, too.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's just, at that point, it's an enhancer.
[UNKNOWN]: Because if you're relying on it to do your work, then we are disposed.
[UNKNOWN]: True.
[UNKNOWN]: And I do think AI is still very limited and we're so far off if ever to be honest to where we're not still part of the equation to some extent.
[UNKNOWN]: So our job may get easier in certain respects.
[UNKNOWN]: But it gets more complex than others because I'm sure you're finding it as I am.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I can do this quicker in that quicker, but then all that allows me to do a little more a lot more complex tax.
[UNKNOWN]: In my mind at the end of the day, I find it exhausted, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, especially with this boom of autonomous agents and things like that, it's easy to put in a prompt and say, write this story for me.
[UNKNOWN]: But you can almost read between the lines of what is written by human and what still needs to grow in that AI space.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that AI space benefits the most when there's human input plus AI when it comes from the creative area.
[UNKNOWN]: Because you can't just say, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Give me this image without a really clear prompt.
[UNKNOWN]: providing adjectives to really describe it, kind of that manipulation with it, because otherwise you could see the writing on the wall and painting.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, we had Christie K on your couple a couple weeks ago.
[UNKNOWN]: And she's been in the, you know, media and journalistic business for 20 years.
[UNKNOWN]: was interviewing folks on the red carpet and had a PBS business after business show, and now has an after show, Christy K after hours that's moving, and I'll tell, hey, I got picked up by a production company out there.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and she was saying a lot of the same stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's a great enhancer.
[UNKNOWN]: It allows me to get what would have gone back and forth between editing, for example, and that has eliminated a lot of that time.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, laps.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, with your journalistic background, you know, when you were in the, you know, I remember when you were getting into the reporting and doing all that stuff, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So, it's just amazing how much has changed since then.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: I think about even putting a video together what used to take, you know, on a on a cassette for lack of a better term I'm blinking out on the term so you may need to adjust that.
[UNKNOWN]: But we had handheld video of recorders and you had to put the tape in there and then cut it down whereas AI, you can kind of put the video in there and say pull the best clips or shorten it down, refine it, and
[UNKNOWN]: And there's so much like API integration with certain AI tools that we use now that the world is your oyster to get creative with it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it really isn't.
[UNKNOWN]: Perry, you're the clip master.
[UNKNOWN]: I do mind the old fashion, but I don't be from here now.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't be from here, but like we did, I did play around with Riverside a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: That's an online, so you upload the video.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you can, it'll, it'll go in.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just didn't I don't know it did an okay job picking out like the important segments of it and one of the things that it will do is it will go in and take all the pauses out so like anytime You have a pause like that it will go in and automatically clip all those out and it will take you know it could take 10 to 15 minutes off of an hour I don't have video But yeah, I've listened to that a really Watch all of our bourbon pauses.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we had to understand that we're here for row four
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, it tends to slow down the thought process a little bit, but it was, and I think I still have a subscription to it, but I just haven't really used it much.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm, I'm, I'm more, I'm more, I'm old school and I'm a more hands on so I like to go through and I, I just cut out the segments that I want and I go in and I'll go on and cut more out and cut more up to it gets down to 30 seconds to a minute and make my reels that way.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: You do a nice job.
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks, and that's fun.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sold on either clip platforms yet.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, I could show you some of the ones that Riverside did, and it does, it does a good job.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I don't know how it's, and I maybe I just, I'm too old to grasp the interface, the interface was a little confusing the way, because like you'd upload it, what I'm actually create all these, they had reels, they had clips, they had like they call
[UNKNOWN]: But hey, I do it my Neal Fashway, but I do use premier, it's all digital, but it's good.
[UNKNOWN]: And those clips, those were taken, you know, how many back and forths between the editing crew and when you're dealing with the tapes, you know, whether it was the CDs, whether it was the, whether it dat tapes, digital audio tape, or digital, digital tape, it was tape, but they were like a little mini cartridge, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: like an eight millimeter.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep, we used to store data on those at work years ago because it was the cheapest form of long term low access storage.
[UNKNOWN]: You could just dump gigabytes and gigabytes of data on there and it didn't have to access all the time because disk space at the time was really expensive.
[UNKNOWN]: Johnny Crippes just walked in and welcome, brother.
[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you.
[UNKNOWN]: I know he knows the Jones is very well.
[UNKNOWN]: Awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the best part about Burman is it seems to bring everybody together, you know, and, you know, Eric, you came back, Casey came, you know, with this one we're going to talk about the double, is a double age joke.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so this is my first time having it, it's very good, by the way, that's very good.
[UNKNOWN]: And if Louie here, he'd say all the color, the bottle, you know, look at it, you know, so it is wonderful and it's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Mr. Lubricity is is out of commission tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we are we or did him on the golf Wheat we squeezed every lones last ounce of birdy out of him.
[UNKNOWN]: You know that right we did it worked Because he was pretty down on us when we were down here having a he was he's like a he just totally turned it around Yeah, I mean I think I went 200 or after the next date.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you were and he backed it up with two birdies on top of it.
[UNKNOWN]: So all of a sudden we were we probably flew from the bottom of the pack to that third place that a second place we took a couple of birdie attempts.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you did that was a nice part.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was a nice part.
[UNKNOWN]: So anyways, you know, it was good to be out.
[UNKNOWN]: It's good to hear, you know, from the media perspective.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, are you guys seeing anything with AI that scares you?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, you hear about, you know, Darryl from Anthropics.
[UNKNOWN]: He's very vocal about where AI might be going.
[UNKNOWN]: What the fears are if it gets in the wrong hands, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And so,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I think Microsoft is one of the companies, I'm guessing they are, I didn't look at the specifically that is also agreed to any frontier kind of models that come out that they would, you know, give it to the federal government before they would release it to look over or enter into these, you know, self-regulating agreement.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: This is a different animal.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's growing like you said at the velocity.
[UNKNOWN]: I kind of compare it to these crashed dummy cars back in the day when they would just drive as fast as you can into the wall and see if you survive.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's kind of what we're doing right now in certain respects because if it gets into the wrong countries hands, if it gets in the Trump administration as pitched this as the AI race wars against China.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think there needs to be a literacy when it comes to AI.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, just talking about digital literacy and reading literacy, there has to be a certain understanding on many different platforms, whether it's government or personal, private sector, things like that.
[UNKNOWN]: There needs to be a comprehension of how quickly it could grow.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that the ins and outs, that's not necessarily in my role, but I do know from the hands-on experience that I do get,
[UNKNOWN]: It feels like the world is your oyster in the sense of where does the limit stop?
[UNKNOWN]: So that could be, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: And where do we lose control?
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, with the Gentic AI not coming out and that has the ability to complete tasks but it being instructed how to complete those tasks just doing it on its own.
[UNKNOWN]: So when you have that ability out there, it opens up the doors and we've seen the
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the different news stories and news clippings out there, I'll, you know, it would do this in this scenario or do that in this scenario.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, that's what I appreciate about Ross, is, you know, he has that responsible AI, you know, and I think that's so important, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So, there's, and I'm totally behind that, there's a couple other nonprofits across the, including my, my former law professor at University of Pittsburgh,
[UNKNOWN]: the gentleman on Chicago that has started, you know, 20 30 every just to bring awareness about what's
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we need to be responsible at this at the end of the day.
[UNKNOWN]: It just can't be at the rush to create.
[UNKNOWN]: Because the next level of AI that's coming out past agentic AI is going to be the humanoid.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be, you know, the embedding it into different machines.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we right now we're seeing the, you know, the humanoid's coming out into the war fields that are out there that are being embedded with AI.
[UNKNOWN]: But now imagine that if they're, you know, running around in civilian life and they have this autonomous ability to go.
[UNKNOWN]: So it can be scary.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you make a great point with the sense of there is a responsibility when it comes to using AI.
[UNKNOWN]: It could be if you're in the tech field, if you're just starting out, what you put into AI, there's a responsibility that comes with that.
[UNKNOWN]: So I know on my role, we do a lot of training.
[UNKNOWN]: We do a lot of security training, there's governance.
[UNKNOWN]: There's pillars and parameters of understanding that you do have a responsibility when it comes to this, because until we have, you know, larger infrastructure building those guidelines around it, I think you just have to be responsible with it, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's a good point that you just made because right now,
[UNKNOWN]: The law is still kind of in its very infant stages as much as there are laws to be reported.
[UNKNOWN]: The federal government has not put a uniform law out there.
[UNKNOWN]: They put a framework out there where we suggest it, and I think the framework hits on a lot of good high notes.
[UNKNOWN]: But as we've even talked about in our one headline today, there's been 100 plus
[UNKNOWN]: state laws that have been enacted that it now this is that patchwork and again these AI companies aren't just operating If they are I would say it's less than one percent If you're an AI company you probably aren't just operating in a very isolated location You're you're operating across state lines therefore inner state commerce comes into effect
[UNKNOWN]: the AI race comes into effect and you can put it under the commerce clause of the Constitution.
[UNKNOWN]: Therefore, the federal government comes into effect.
[UNKNOWN]: I can make the whole legal argument as to why we need a federal uniform law to allow us to compete against China.
[UNKNOWN]: a lot of people say, well, they're coming this country.
[UNKNOWN]: So, well, yeah, but that allows them to operate faster.
[UNKNOWN]: They have one, they have one government of all those people to have one unified front.
[UNKNOWN]: So, we're kind of competing against ourselves to get out of our own way to compete on a world level.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: I even think historically, you know, 200 plus years ago when the printing press started coming out and people were just publishing any type of news you wanted without any sort of law and regulation.
[UNKNOWN]: Here we are today where you have laws in place to protect yourself from publishing misinformation and things like that.
[UNKNOWN]: So I do see a road path going towards that.
[UNKNOWN]: I think there's absolutely a need for that.
[UNKNOWN]: And one of the things that I hear when I talk to, you know, family friends about using co-pilot or Apache BT, any tool like that is, well, that told me that.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, well, you also still need to do your due diligence with patch checking and what versus it comes from because of a point because the hallucination level still there, hallucinations are very real.
[UNKNOWN]: It's gotten better.
[UNKNOWN]: Certainly have, and Cole Paul it has been my, has been my assistant when I wrote all my books.
[UNKNOWN]: So that, that is, it's one of its strengths when it was created doing research.
[UNKNOWN]: But you got to make sure you tell it to give me the URL to that link.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to see the source that you're drawing up on because I got to put my own eyes on it too.
[UNKNOWN]: You just can't rely on it and take it and put it down.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's where you can kind of look at AI as being your coworker, not the replacement of you and your role, where they are pulling those sources and you need to still do your due diligence and verifying those sources.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's a huge help with like, you know, doing your book for me, it's.
[UNKNOWN]: putting newsletters together or e-mails or broadcasts for my role in verifying that information because they're still in need for that.
[UNKNOWN]: But it certainly makes it more efficient.
[UNKNOWN]: It makes it more efficient.
[UNKNOWN]: And where you can find that information?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it was in New York at this dinner party and they were asking me, did you have AI just write it?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Look, I handed you my book, it's 500 pages of operational AI governance.
[UNKNOWN]: AI is not- It's not- It's somewhere around-
[UNKNOWN]: That is this guy telling you, no, no, but that is this guy writing that, you know, now AI was wonderful, it's wonderful, and you mentioned it earlier about organizing it.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, I always, when I always was starting to write before, you know, it's always that first part of outlining, remember when they, you know, back in, you know, in school or kind of outline good, so how do you, it's, you're in the hip and stage, it's
[UNKNOWN]: For me, I still manually track different ideas based off of having person-a-person conversations.
[UNKNOWN]: In teams, we use that virtually for meetings.
[UNKNOWN]: I use the record and transcribe feature and co-pilot will pull some ideas.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'll even verbalize into the AI.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd love to have a conversation about X, Y, and Z, and I'm looking to do some stories.
[UNKNOWN]: related to this topic.
[UNKNOWN]: Copilot helps me pull those ideas and then I can start from there.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm also more focused into conversations with having features like that and teams.
[UNKNOWN]: We were tough.
[UNKNOWN]: It really isn't, it really is a copilot.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is.
[UNKNOWN]: Even when Perry was talking about audio clipping earlier, recording our team's meetings, and we're, we're did so and so say about this topic earlier, it's easy to jump back to that, pull the quote, and then continue going on versus the manual scrubbing in and out, ripping the audio clips.
[UNKNOWN]: It's been so helpful in my role in making it more efficient.
[UNKNOWN]: So I can spend time on the actual things that I need to get in.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the more meaningful stuff rather than the repetitive mundane stuff that just seems to, you know, drag on, or used to drag on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think maybe that's where you were talking about earlier the scary parts of AI.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, autonomous agents, you kind of picture something scary that those words sound scary.
[UNKNOWN]: But if you're thinking I hate cleaning out my email inbox, I would love something to run it for me and say pull the top four people that I engage with in those emails to the top.
[UNKNOWN]: summarized by the summarized it and do you know you can it's amazing what it can do.
[UNKNOWN]: I just got back from maternity leave and had by the way congratulations.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: But I was honestly really nervous about coming back after being on leave and what my inbox was going to look like because I have a lot of people that I have to report to and have
[UNKNOWN]: And having cowork through Copilot helped me prioritize my mailbox made it a lot less daunting.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the manual task that you dread, you put off, you'll do every other thing on your birthday.
[UNKNOWN]: But that made it more efficient so I could get back into it.
[UNKNOWN]: Or when we used to go through all those emails, were you fatigued at that point, were you in your right point of mind?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So now this makes it a little more efficient so that you can be at your best when you're dealing with the more constructive ones that need to be dealt with sooner than later, or are very important to what's going on.
[UNKNOWN]: So obviously there's a lot of junk mail out there too.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's great to have something that's filtering that out beyond just the normal junk.
[UNKNOWN]: you know email folder right so yeah and to have and now i'll give this and this is this is why i really think microsoft is so smart to admit it in all of its work of full is not just not just the emails without look right or uh uh uh with the power point uh you know word excel excel comparing i were talking about you know and uh on the
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it is now simplified, do you want me to set this up for you so you can change the formula?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, of course I have like to set that up, that's a good change of formula later on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, please, I would like to see that.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, Excel is an amazing tool anywhere, but when you add in the AI capabilities, it's just, like, because that was the only, you have to, you have to think through that logic of what, what do I want this to do?
[UNKNOWN]: And now you don't even have to, you still need to know what you want it to do, but you don't have to figure out all the logic.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's kind of like a quarter.
[UNKNOWN]: If you know what to do and then you know what to ask, it's a how to direct it.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, it's a great tool to have and Microsoft even put their toes in the water with the legal AI product world.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they've embedded into their Word document.
[UNKNOWN]: the ability to review documents in point out red flags.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's a major step forward.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I would have loved to have that back when I was in the private practice because I used Microsoft all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: And I typed all my own stuff because I can type over 100 words a minute, but that was just kind of a OCD quirk when I was growing up, you know, I just, I don't know if you remember those games.
[UNKNOWN]: You'd play in a hall fast.
[UNKNOWN]: You could type it.
[UNKNOWN]: I did an ice school.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I could type, I think the computer was a bit brighter, though.
[UNKNOWN]: That was different.
[UNKNOWN]: I was right before the switch over the Apple 2 sample to see or it just came out and yeah we used those IBM typewriters with the ball but I can still type 70 I think 70 words I was pretty fast.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm still pretty quick but not that quick.
[UNKNOWN]: So you know and I had a legal secretary too but
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't a normal relationship.
[UNKNOWN]: It was more, you know, kind of, she was my cool pilot back then, you know, as far as, you know, helping me, you know, be more productive.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's kind of cool because instead of not just having to type things out, we could utilize, you know, ourselves to a better, you know, means to an end.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, there's a running joke in my field of work in communications as a large bubble.
[UNKNOWN]: We all went into communications because we're not good with numbers.
[UNKNOWN]: So you won't find us looking at a math book, you won't find us doing numbers or anything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: But one thing that I've been using lately, thankfully, to AI tools like Copilot, is measuring my communications through metrics and using Copilot with Excel.
[UNKNOWN]: to crunch numbers and formulas that I would have no idea how to even get started.
[UNKNOWN]: So now I'm seeing, okay, these are landing with 85% open rate based off of these certain topics.
[UNKNOWN]: So I know I need to gear my communications a little bit more towards that or attendance rates.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they're 80% maybe we need to change the topics a little bit more.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not a numbers person, but it's making me a numbers person because it's making me it's making it easier for me to understand it and put it together.
[UNKNOWN]: It is because it's able to to pull that data so easily right so when it comes to email opens or it comes to you know how how the conversion rates are going.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That that stuff is is able to be that that's that is AI like you know it's helping us quantify a really creative role.
[UNKNOWN]: Right otherwise if you had to go out there and manually you know.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, did you open that email?
[UNKNOWN]: Of course I did.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but, you know, it's much more accurate because because of that because it can actually tell if somebody did open it or not and it can draw on that and give you the feedback immediately in that real time feedback.
[UNKNOWN]: And then therefore, you know, you guys can then, you know, adjust on the fly as to what's going to send the message or captivate the message.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's the better, you know, where to probably put it with what you're doing is, is to try to engage the, you know, the folks on the other end of your communication to be able to want to see what's going on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we, um, you know, even using AI tools to do an end of your recap, what would be like an email at the end of the year, maybe we pull metrics or really impactful statements, and we turn it into an AI song, and then our audience can watch it and see pictures and sing about like CSAT scores or something.
[UNKNOWN]: Talking about singing very high, most in karaoke.
[UNKNOWN]: You're doing exactly what you do with that is where you're stalking these stilettos and you're on the songboard.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, doing podcasts, like things like this, talking about the things that we do in our work.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like AI has unlocked a level of creativity that I didn't know was possible when I graduated college, however many years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: Me neither.
[UNKNOWN]: And when we come back, we're going to talk about what those creativity and the things are and share a little bit about that, as well as talk about the double-aged data, what for these products is very good.
[UNKNOWN]: So cheers, Casey.
[UNKNOWN]: You appreciate your being here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, thank you.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, the real world out there that's going on and, you know, Microsoft's making headlines.
[UNKNOWN]: The headlines that make it into even our very Trunk-cated headlines that we bring out to the world.
[UNKNOWN]: So Casey, you know, before we get into the wood for the you brought this double aged is very rich.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's what we are.
[UNKNOWN]: The bourbon is down the spirits are going up There's no hiding it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not able to hide the love now.
[UNKNOWN]: If Louie was here, he'd be like, that's our rich color.
[UNKNOWN]: It is a rich color, and it's it
[UNKNOWN]: it's good.
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, you can take a few clips of that before we get into talking about it, but I do want to talk about before we get too far into the bourbon.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you had mentioned, you know, what you're dealing with in Microsoft as far as change management goes.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, especially right now when you talk about the velocity of AI that's coming, you know, forward.
[UNKNOWN]: Tell me how that's working out, you know, even from the textbook times, it has to have changed from what that could have possibly been.
[UNKNOWN]: Totally, so I don't think it's unique to Microsoft.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it should be implemented across the board.
[UNKNOWN]: Anytime you have a change with any company, I think there needs to be some sort of on awareness with your people that changes coming, changes always happening and it's how you respond to it and how your leadership kind of steps up and says, it's all right, or we're gonna take the steps necessary to make sure that you understand what you need to do in your role.
[UNKNOWN]: For me, I got prophesied certified with a rest of my team and I think it complements my role and my skillset really well because now I have a better understanding of what is it that people need to know when it comes to change or the topic of AI.
[UNKNOWN]: It's scary, it's uncertain, you know, and it's ever changing.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's ever changing, like you said in the headlines, like something is always changing every single day.
[UNKNOWN]: It's changed the way I communicate and do my role and it gives me the lens of being on the opposite side of what would I need to know in the world of AI that's applicable to me.
[UNKNOWN]: Why should I care?
[UNKNOWN]: Why should I reach out to my manager?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's a very high EQ kind of level where you're actually now looking at the other side of the coin and how do you relate to it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's awesome, but you know, I've heard it as I've been working with folks and talking with folks out there that, you know, there's large portion of, not just, you know, America, but around the world that are against AI.
[UNKNOWN]: it's a valid feeling.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think one thing that I have found that is given me solace is spark your curiosity about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Know that you don't have to be an expert at it to keep your job or be good at your job.
[UNKNOWN]: Just stay curious and have a willingness to learn.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll get you a long way.
[UNKNOWN]: So important and what's so important that you mentioned earlier too is Microsoft's willingness to allow you to have a sandbox to experiment with.
[UNKNOWN]: So there is no, you know, that's the place to try, you know, how the trials and errors.
[UNKNOWN]: And dedicated learning time.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you have a full-time job.
[UNKNOWN]: And now you have to learn new skills that are rolling out at the speed of light.
[UNKNOWN]: For me, I put 30 minutes on my calendar once a week to dedicate full-time learning to AI.
[UNKNOWN]: It's part of the role, it's part of the awareness.
[UNKNOWN]: For me, I always like the challenge.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like being complacent in my role.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it only helps, you know, my career, my mindset, how I do my job.
[UNKNOWN]: So that 30 minutes of learning time is encouraged by my team, by my manager.
[UNKNOWN]: By my organization, my leader, I mean, I could go on from, you know, my teams perspective and my experience, but I think that's important for anybody in any job, whether it's AI or not, like just continuing to have that growth mindset is extremely important in the stage.
[UNKNOWN]: that open mindset to learn and continue to learn is and we have a lot of young listeners even though we are an explicit podcast that are looking to and I get this, I get this question all the time is what do you recommend that my son or daughter goes to school for or you know, do you recommend them going to law school and they need to go to school.
[UNKNOWN]: definitely go to school, get your base, get your expertise and whatever area it is.
[UNKNOWN]: The learning does not stop.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a prime example of it.
[UNKNOWN]: I picked back up and you talked about picking up with all those new stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: I've been coding for the last six
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I had a little bit, and I'm going way back now when I did buying and properties.com, it was HTML.
[UNKNOWN]: It seemed to be for Python and all the other stuff, you know, but, uh, so I knew a little bit about it.
[UNKNOWN]: But think about where you started in your career, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think you'd be here now?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: And then would I think I would be challenged mentally to do something differently.
[UNKNOWN]: So we talked about, you know, how the gaming, you know, I think coding has become the new addictive thing.
[UNKNOWN]: because you can create and you don't have to know all the underpinnings of it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is where these platforms are coming through and the brilliant minds that train them are helping us all to be able to create with whatever ideas we have and we're seeing that out there now.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember way back when my space used to do coding on the back end to make your profile layout change and the colors and the hex colors and things like that and I was just a dabble on I'm like wow okay that's you know mind blowing at the time but here we are coding How far has it come in my space doesn't even exist anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the Facebook for Facebook Where's Tom?
[UNKNOWN]: He took his money in a room before
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't own half of how while you like Mark Zuckerberg with a bunker that's ready to to survive the biggest fallout since.
[UNKNOWN]: But you know you think about here we are how many years later there's so many people that are into coding now that probably didn't see that as a career path have probably stemmed from somewhere in engineering didn't see that.
[UNKNOWN]: It re-sparked my interest and I'm jumping out of bed
[UNKNOWN]: right in my books.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that was the other, and the friends in the audience knew that when I was right in the books, that got me out of my two naps a day to down to one, maybe zero.
[UNKNOWN]: But the coding has been the next level.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think when you were writing dark at daily, I think I even said to you at one point, I was like, have you slept recently and he were like, well, he clawed maybe a good abad.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's like, you're done.
[UNKNOWN]: It's time to
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, well, glad somebody did.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, listen, this poor clock in the afternoon, what time's on are you on?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I said, I usually do take an app at this point though, or you're really smart on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so anyway, it's sleep's important.
[UNKNOWN]: But, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but you're just passionate about what you're doing, that's all.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and that's, so if you find that passion, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But I think Casey's message is so important because, you know, I've talked about it.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, when we talked about, I said, I even brought out my very first book that I wrote that I have never advertised and it's.
[UNKNOWN]: I speak often in that is to how change management and that willingness to advance.
[UNKNOWN]: with the times.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I've seen it personally now in probably three or four different phases.
[UNKNOWN]: I know you're seeing it even since you were in the, you know, the media area to where you are today.
[UNKNOWN]: If you were reluctant to say, you know what, I'm not going to adopt to the new technology.
[UNKNOWN]: This is how I've always done.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is how I learned how to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, just because you learned how to do it the first time, I think that's an important lesson is because we get taught that way.
[UNKNOWN]: We get our degree that way, right?
[UNKNOWN]: If you go to college and you're doing that.
[UNKNOWN]: So sure.
[UNKNOWN]: But what they don't teach is, it's a continuing education.
[UNKNOWN]: Completely, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: You talked about earlier about just going to school.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't have to be for a specific thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember going to college and my mom and dad saying, you can do whatever major you want.
[UNKNOWN]: I know you're passionate about broadcasting, but I want you to have the business background.
[UNKNOWN]: And at the time, I'm like,
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't love accounting.
[UNKNOWN]: I struggled through finance.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: But that was a back burner that really helped me down the road.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all the boys.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you need to continue to look at your career that way of like, okay, this is my job.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a business program manager in communications, but if I had extra skills that I learned on the back end as a minor quote unquote, that only makes me more like qualifiable if that's even a word on the road.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: And knowing a little bit about a lot,
[UNKNOWN]: especially in AI like hey I know a little bit about co-pilot but I may not be coding like Brad is till 5 a.m. but that helps me be marketable.
[UNKNOWN]: it's cool but it is you don't have to rely you just start the journey and I've been trying to push that message to a few gentlemen including one that's sitting in the room you just start the journey you know and once you start the journey it actually walks you through it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's almost like having your teacher be there with you walking you through your project that you're doing.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and it's so cool to have it that way because as you're doing it, you learn it and certainly you start banking the information you learn and you realize that you can start building off of that when you're starting to ask questions on the line and that's worked for me.
[UNKNOWN]: and I think a lot of people out there are finding it that way and it's you know I thought when my kids were young younger they need to learn how to code and I said you know just go learn how to code that's that is the in the fury out there right now as well AI is replaced folks at the auto code
[UNKNOWN]: I really don't think so.
[UNKNOWN]: I think if you have that background, I think you're that much more valuable.
[UNKNOWN]: As long as you're much more valuable than AI loan, you're bringing value to the table, because now you know how to use it.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you know the question is to ask, you know, maybe that AI is being trained in all these different, you know, experts.
[UNKNOWN]: But you're the other expert sitting at the table and that really adds to it and you're the expert that's reacting in real time that is realizing with the EQ level, which I don't know if AI is ever going to get there.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't even have to work in technology to try AI.
[UNKNOWN]: For instance, the medical field now is really taking off an AI.
[UNKNOWN]: If you had a background in AI, bet that would help with taking your notes or recaps.
[UNKNOWN]: All you have to do is go on to Indie or LinkedIn and look at the jobs that if you pull up AI or biopharmacy
[UNKNOWN]: AI and health research, you know, these areas are exploding.
[UNKNOWN]: And I've always said from day one that AI is going to make the biggest impact that we're all going to see on the health field.
[UNKNOWN]: And Eric, you know, when we bring you on in the fourth and fifth segment, you and I can talk about that because, you know, it has already, you know, when AI can now go out there and, you know, the PhDs out there, they had to do other research before they would have to go draw on upon all these white papers.
[UNKNOWN]: They had to research, they had to go thumb through them, you need to get the cliff notes to them in the summaries.
[UNKNOWN]: You're still not getting all the context.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, AI is different.
[UNKNOWN]: It can read every line, it can dissect 50,000 white papers at one time and cross-reference, synthesize, figure out where the commonalities are, where the differences are, and where the next A plus B equals C. And that's where the health field is in the bio-pharmacy.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you talk about the pharmaceuticals.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they're already coming out with all these crazy problem with the health field is,
[UNKNOWN]: things take time to move through, so we're not going to see it immediately, but in the testing end, and in the infant's stages, it's exploding.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I would encourage people to take a look at AI and not be scared of it and see how it can apply to your day-to-day life.
[UNKNOWN]: What is the simplest task that you need to do that maybe could replace that or help you?
[UNKNOWN]: For instance, we were talking about healthcare.
[UNKNOWN]: Pull your health
[UNKNOWN]: I want to classify that secure AI environment and say, what does this mean to me and put it in Lament terms?
[UNKNOWN]: Well in case he says that, I mean the fear is, you know, and there's been fears.
[UNKNOWN]: And when you have CHAPT, when people are putting what they thought were, and I actually wrote an article on that to say that, you know, I think if people are...
[UNKNOWN]: having these intimate conversations with their AI.
[UNKNOWN]: It should be considered one of those private, you know, it should not be leaked.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there was conversations from Tratchy BT that ended up actually getting pulled up on Google search.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's very, that's about as unsecure as a income, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So that's an extreme moment.
[UNKNOWN]: we should be cognizant of that.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, when you're talking back and forth and and there's, of course, you know, we talk about the dumb criminals.
[UNKNOWN]: There's them too that are out there and I'm sure if you haven't seen the date line stories, but there's them like, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: So I did this, and so what's the best way to not get your best way to hide them all?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, guess what?
[UNKNOWN]: That's
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I think the ongoing learning is so important.
[UNKNOWN]: I think learning to be safe about it too, though, because that's especially from my attorney background.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm talking with these law firms now.
[UNKNOWN]: There's different ways to do it, you can silo it, you can have companies like Google and AWS or with Azure and AWS's Cloud Platforms.
[UNKNOWN]: They're now bringing it on site.
[UNKNOWN]: And that was one of the fears where things would migrate off, and you have this data migration, and you lose the privacy or you lose the security of it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I think things are evolving, but they're evolving.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're in the middle of the Wild Wild West when it comes to this technical logical boom.
[UNKNOWN]: And it really is a big boom, like the fireworks that we're going off just a couple nights ago.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you see them at Mac Park?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, if we did.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the first time.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, it's the first time, you know, Tony was like, you know, what, she, she, she, she, she, it's just that we played on the fourth July tournament, so we had to, you know, we had to go win that.
[UNKNOWN]: We, we'd have to go place in that.
[UNKNOWN]: I just think we won, but well, we won our little,
[UNKNOWN]: sidebat for charity.
[UNKNOWN]: We beat all three teams and in the Chevy Chase Center is the benefactor of our our efforts.
[UNKNOWN]: Our efforts, you know, so a bourbon does pay off.
[UNKNOWN]: That does.
[UNKNOWN]: You're won't.
[UNKNOWN]: But but also on that note, bearer.
[UNKNOWN]: and got on a normal school.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you were talking about the fireworks.
[UNKNOWN]: No, fireworks, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I never get my hair to keep you on track, Brad.
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks, brother.
[UNKNOWN]: I never did get the light off, uh, uh, Cardi's fireworks, but by the time I came back, I was, they're still sitting in the corner.
[UNKNOWN]: I was always tonight, but I'm sure that, yeah, I'm sure that's, I'm sure that's, I'm sure the neighbors, I know.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought this was over.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I thought this was over and Friday is Saturday.
[UNKNOWN]: You knew, knew.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just getting started.
[UNKNOWN]: This is, this is Microsoft 365, baby.
[UNKNOWN]: It never ends That anyways, but you were talking about the fireworks at Mac park.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so that was on you It was a Tony.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so Tony insisted and I don't know she had a little bit of firework under her this week And so we she insisted we played in the and I'm gonna pee him golf or he know that so they I'm started at 9 a.m.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like a little even at a good Johnny up, you know It was good to see you in Adelaide you just crawling on the bed, you know, I
[UNKNOWN]: I told him that we decided we were just going to keep smack and balls into this house until they woke up.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sounds like we didn't have to do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Sounds like work.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Pretty much.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyways.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, so we did that, then we would kayak.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's pretty cool.
[UNKNOWN]: It was supposed to be like four or five miles with seven and a half.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a surprise.
[UNKNOWN]: A little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: The time you said you and Quinn paddle very quickly.
[UNKNOWN]: We did to the end.
[UNKNOWN]: We did.
[UNKNOWN]: We thought it was an hour and a half.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not a race Brad.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's not a three or four hour voyage, either.
[UNKNOWN]: And I, I, I even wear a hat.
[UNKNOWN]: So I knew I was going to get sunburn, you know, I'm like, I am out there.
[UNKNOWN]: And after the first mile, we hit the first bridge.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh my gosh, we got sick enough miles to go yet.
[UNKNOWN]: I am sweating.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I did the splits, you know, in the middle of the,
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you can see that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was, what were you wearing on your feet?
[UNKNOWN]: Did you have tennis shoes?
[UNKNOWN]: I had my sandal slides slides on, so they were off, so I was just barefooting them.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and you're on like a mossy carpet.
[UNKNOWN]: It was moss water.
[UNKNOWN]: There was no slimy and sloth.
[UNKNOWN]: Zero balons, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Just any fish?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no.
[UNKNOWN]: They were actually, no.
[UNKNOWN]: I was looking for the snakes.
[UNKNOWN]: Saw the fish jumping.
[UNKNOWN]: Nice.
[UNKNOWN]: Should take your fish and pull.
[UNKNOWN]: I should, but we'd have to stay still for a little while, we were flying.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, when if we just go six miles and I will get down there in a bar in Arna.
[UNKNOWN]: You're doing the math that I said, where's my spreadsheet?
[UNKNOWN]: I need it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need it.
[UNKNOWN]: I do not need that.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and we passed.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you get this results part?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the results part.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, they drive you up the road and they drop you off like delivering this.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just talking to you.
[UNKNOWN]: Good luck.
[UNKNOWN]: You can kind of hear the bandages playing in the background.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you need any background music.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just talking to somebody that does the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't think of the whole loss.
[UNKNOWN]: It was awesome, Perus.
[UNKNOWN]: So until we got to this guy, that was in the middle of the river fishing and quit an arrow.
[UNKNOWN]: We're like the Cambridge Rowing Team.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's coming down.
[UNKNOWN]: like how did they look to you he looks there goes well that's different and like as a quenreue a little trouble by the just the fact that's all he said
[UNKNOWN]: You should have documented this trip.
[UNKNOWN]: You think it.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you need to just pull the description and put it in an AI generator.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you're good in the image.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure over it.
[UNKNOWN]: That could be your thumbnail.
[UNKNOWN]: Right on the river.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we'd have been in water a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: remember Mitch?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and now I'll leave the story at this, okay?
[UNKNOWN]: They tell you that there's this like there's a first bridge in the first mile and there's a second bridge at the last mile and that's what you're looking for.
[UNKNOWN]: At least that's what I was looking for.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just trying to get my bearings, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's funny.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so good that you have fun.
[UNKNOWN]: That's good, family.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we definitely have fun.
[UNKNOWN]: We had a great conversation out there.
[UNKNOWN]: But we got towards the end and I'm like, and there's as old pillars from the bridge.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's Salzburg.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's no bridge.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, that's a d- It's a Quinty thing.
[UNKNOWN]: That was the bridge that we're referring to, or we'll have to go further.
[UNKNOWN]: God, I hope that's the one that said, and then after that, you're looking for the right, you know, cement and you got to stop mighty the river, you know, it's a river.
[UNKNOWN]: It's cascading at times.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was rippling at times, too.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, because it's only like a foot deep.
[UNKNOWN]: Pretty much.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, you know, we'll show it to worry about drowning.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, let's hear what was that face down.
[UNKNOWN]: That wasn't drinking, but I mean, I was completely sobered in this whole thing.
[UNKNOWN]: That's part of the problem, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So anyways, we did get there.
[UNKNOWN]: We were able to stop.
[UNKNOWN]: First of all, if anybody's doing this all-spirt trip, those pillars are not the bridge.
[UNKNOWN]: It's another mile down the road.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the road.
[UNKNOWN]: Or a river.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess that is on the road.
[UNKNOWN]: That's pretty funny.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go, I'm going to go kayaking on.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, you got to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's complete delivering.
[UNKNOWN]: This old soul mill, the perfect opportunity to dub that music in over there.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: This old soul mill and saw us buried.
[UNKNOWN]: They clearly made them put the lip stick on the pig because on solsburg there, the post office is right across the road and they put the siding on this all mill, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But it's just like the issue.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, because I've probably never seen it because I've never been on the river.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so the backside is the old salt mill.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all rested out.
[UNKNOWN]: It's old, you know, it's like, you know, oh, so it's all facade on the front.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all facade.
[UNKNOWN]: I got it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they just put this fake sighting over it that has nothing behind it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, oh, this is a perfect place for a lot of house.
[UNKNOWN]: Brad's already about Halloween.
[UNKNOWN]: He worries about Halloween on on people over there's going.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's a member of the cast.
[UNKNOWN]: He grew up with the casket.
[UNKNOWN]: He grew up with the.
[UNKNOWN]: When you told me, I thought he was pulled, I thought he was pulled, I thought he was pulled, I thought he was pulled.
[UNKNOWN]: Then he actually had it at the haunted house, I was like, you really do have a caster because yeah, I told him to have one, I was like, I don't know, I'd never medley, but he owned a casket before, unless he were already, you know, yeah, going.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a state-playing 101, so we're 24 minutes, you want to take a break and talk about the bourbon, or do you want to do it?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to talk about the bourbon.
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, as you come back to the bourbon, don't we?
[UNKNOWN]: You see, it's like herding cats.
[UNKNOWN]: The way, like I say, is like hurting a second your kindergartners.
[UNKNOWN]: Here's the thing.
[UNKNOWN]: If we start talking about the bump, if we start talking about the verb now, the conversation is going to be in there, and we're going to run short on time.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: I would just assume, sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's work for 24 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, Casey, forgive me.
[UNKNOWN]: We're asking live from the, from the casket.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to work.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I've, I've known Brad for what six or seven years now and I'm still trying to figure out how his brain works.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you don't want to get that much.
[UNKNOWN]: I want that for Halloween when they invited us over for the party.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, there is a casket.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they did.
[UNKNOWN]: It's nice.
[UNKNOWN]: It's very nice.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, very nice.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the scratch is for the cat.
[UNKNOWN]: Very nice.
[UNKNOWN]: How much?
[UNKNOWN]: MAH!
[UNKNOWN]: And on that note, we just ran them off all the great movies all once.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, there's a few more, but probably can't say him on air.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we're explicit, we can say we're not blazing sandals.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, going there, you're right, you're kissing that, that's not very many quotes from that.
[UNKNOWN]: Although there is my favorite quote, which is men, you were about to embark on a great crusade to wipe out runaway goodness in the West.
[UNKNOWN]: Harvey Corman classic right now anyways we'll be right back after this and we come back We are gonna talk about this wonderful bourbon because the level in the bottle will be noticeably lower Oh, it will be short because I don't have some and he ends out Yeah, and Eric you know, Eric doesn't E. E. Free balls it, you know
[UNKNOWN]: He does, he does not use ice, he drinks his, he drinks his knee, he drinks his knee.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a true, I don't know where the game from it, just came out.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a bourbon expert.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I'm a, as Louie has said, I just hit off to him and I'm going to try and stay away from me as I'll be the law.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to this segment, Greg Prism, we're going to go in the forer.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, this is three, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me roll it back.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like I feel like the current in the river just got me.
[UNKNOWN]: I hope you're right back up with this.
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[UNKNOWN]: We just had a little mini-cario.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I did?
[UNKNOWN]: And Michael Myers made it appear.
[UNKNOWN]: It's guaranteed.
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
[UNKNOWN]: He did.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my goodness.
[UNKNOWN]: You can only imagine what's coming in October.
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be a lot of fun.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's going to be so fun.
[UNKNOWN]: We should have the smoke machine here blown small.
[UNKNOWN]: There's going to be smoke.
[UNKNOWN]: There's going to be a casket.
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be burning.
[UNKNOWN]: What a combination.
[UNKNOWN]: Everything you would expect at a great mock-feel funeral.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So anyway, it's back to life.
[UNKNOWN]: the master of the segway.
[UNKNOWN]: And I had no, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That was pretty smooth.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, by the way, we should probably talk about the great double-aged woodford that you could have smooth.
[UNKNOWN]: And Ian brought for us today.
[UNKNOWN]: That is, the bourbon's down in the spirits are clearly up.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not just talking about the spirits, but I'm talking about the spirits.
[UNKNOWN]: That bourbon went down considerably from the last, at the end of the last segment.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, I think that's like several of us.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, there is a guy that's back from Nova Scotia, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Welcome back on this big dog.
[UNKNOWN]: We know what it's saying.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a noticeable difference in the consumption of verb and during the recording of the show when you weren't here for two weeks.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I can imagine that.
[UNKNOWN]: Not that we don't approve of you going away.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, like I mentioned.
[UNKNOWN]: We missed you.
[UNKNOWN]: He's an old we missed you.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no doubt we missed you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, at least we kept in touch on the text, Jane.
[UNKNOWN]: We did.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you end up doing this?
[UNKNOWN]: Can I switch C?
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[UNKNOWN]: I'm welcome welcome back to thank you brother appreciate that thank you for that you know Eric also dropped a bottle of eagle wear 10 on us yeah that'll be next week yeah we will have to dive into that next week we have to yeah
[UNKNOWN]: or later this way to something.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's kind of, this is kind of unique because we have the Fourth of July special.
[UNKNOWN]: Now we have the special with Casey, you know, this is awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I love having, and we talk about change management.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's kind of how we had to change, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So we just kind of change on the fly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, if we just said no, I'm sorry, case, we only filmed one Wednesdays.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: like what the hell you're a loss what the hell I'm in back down so 100% worth the change oh it's so worth the right so having intriguing interesting guess on is what's that's three court is and and and I think your stories so
[UNKNOWN]: it has to resonate with so many young folks out there because those that are figuring out their career paths right now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a fuzzy cloud.
[UNKNOWN]: You know you talk about cloud and we put cloud smoke up there or cigar smoke trying trying to see through that career cloud that is out there right now.
[UNKNOWN]: There's new opportunities to be created as a result.
[UNKNOWN]: There's the creative level.
[UNKNOWN]: So when you you know you talk about the creativity you know if you have anything you want to create you know Eric
[UNKNOWN]: Call it that although you're you're very busy as well, so I mean, it's like when do you find time, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's kind of hard sometimes, yeah, but you did kind of rewrite the good
[UNKNOWN]: math is God's mind I did started again because it didn't it wasn't working you know you know you're you're you're you're you're role when things aren't working you got to make that pivot you got to make that change and and I yeah I did that well that's bold because you know what spent hours sometimes it's necessary
[UNKNOWN]: If you're not fully set on a way that something's going to be conveyed, it's almost better to just start from scratch.
[UNKNOWN]: You could take bullet points from your original thought, but I think it'll flow much better.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it already is.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what?
[UNKNOWN]: I think we're the struggle with, you know, you talk about change, change management, and you talk about what just, you know, you know, you know, you talk about change management.
[UNKNOWN]: And you talk about what just, you know, you know, you know, you talk about what just, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know
[UNKNOWN]: pivoting, you know, from anything you're doing.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the eagle.
[UNKNOWN]: Doesn't the eagle just sometimes get in the way?
[UNKNOWN]: Didn't I know better first time?
[UNKNOWN]: Am I going to self-correct myself now or listen to somebody else to self-correct myself now?
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's the biggest part change management is figuring out where to check your eagle.
[UNKNOWN]: at the door.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think an open mind, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So if you can sometimes just step back out of your body and have that outer body experience and look back and see, what is the best interest for everything around me right now in this situation?
[UNKNOWN]: It's someone wrote a book called Distancing.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't remember the name of the author, but there was a book called Distancing, and it's the same idea, working with teams.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not quite sure if that works in Microsoft, but essentially it's about, before you can even get to the strategy pace, you've got to let the ego go.
[UNKNOWN]: And his example was, in the book, it was a consultant, but it was talking about these teams trying to figure out the strategy.
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever strategy it might be,
[UNKNOWN]: And he says, OK, right.
[UNKNOWN]: First, right about your self, your self-experience on the dance floor, what do you experience?
[UNKNOWN]: Then he takes it to a different level.
[UNKNOWN]: He says, you're on the balcony.
[UNKNOWN]: If so, from the balcony perspective, what do you see on that dance floor?
[UNKNOWN]: And once people see it from a completely different perspective, now they're able to resolve and go through the process of resolving on the issues that they have, but actually moving towards a strategy.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's kind of an interesting way of looking at it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but that's about leaving the ego at the door.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the most important thing and I really like what you said earlier about about your Your passion and I think you can have both leave the ego Create the passion and that's a good mix
[UNKNOWN]: It's a great mix, and even when talking with Ross, you could tell he had a very fondness in working with you, so you left an impression of him.
[UNKNOWN]: That was almost two years ago, and was you very early on with Microsoft at that point, so it's important, it's important to anybody's career, so if you can be that team player that's figuring out the next step, especially in these uncertain times,
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're, I think we're all operating, I don't know any industry right now that isn't.
[UNKNOWN]: And we talked about the health, we talked about, you know, you get into all the regulated, you know, industries health insurance finance, they're all uncertain.
[UNKNOWN]: We have the Clarity Act that we talked about last week, you know, that's still uncertain with the, you know, the blockchains and the cryptos out there.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, we need clarity.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you don't have clarity, so how do you figure it out, you have to figure it out with it amongst yourselves and your team, and have the flexibility.
[UNKNOWN]: to react and communications for having the most important piece.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think about my team and how diverse of skill sets we have and are on the same team together and having that experience and bringing those conversations to the table and those different perspectives of how with this type of employee feel or manager, how should they communicate that
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't even have to be in the technology field, right?
[UNKNOWN]: To want to have a broader perspective of how change can impact people.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Whether that's AI, whether that's anything, downsizing, growing, you name it.
[UNKNOWN]: I think there's a really strong importance of having different perspectives from that and you can only benefit from it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I will say that I am one of the prime examples is taking a long time for me to realize that change sometimes is good.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I try to control things.
[UNKNOWN]: It's my OCD.
[UNKNOWN]: It's my type A personality where I want to be in control.
[UNKNOWN]: And when I finally realized, sometimes there's a better time just to let go of that control, and try to figure out the best way to react to it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a life lesson that it took me to, you know, my mid-life years now, and I wish I would learn that earlier on, to be honest, you know, I was very reluctant to back then.
[UNKNOWN]: I always thought, I figured it out.
[UNKNOWN]: I figured it out, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Eric and I just talked about that about half an hour ago, while we, about how there's just certain things that are to things you can control, things you can't, and the things that you can't, you have to set aside and manage or deal with them, and the things you
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, otherwise you make yourself miserable because you, you, you've, you've fret about the things that you can't control, and they consume you.
[UNKNOWN]: Earthquakes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about Earthquakes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Of course.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll say, I'll chime in here real quick to Perry's point about the things you can control and not control.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know what AI will do in the future.
[UNKNOWN]: We know that it's going to continue to grow.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to continue to evolve.
[UNKNOWN]: But here's what I can control as a person, as an employee.
[UNKNOWN]: I can learn about it.
[UNKNOWN]: I can ask my colleagues about it.
[UNKNOWN]: I can try to upscale.
[UNKNOWN]: I could try to
[UNKNOWN]: that change is ever vests and it's always going to continue to happen.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't stop the train, but I can't control how I'm going to react to it to your point.
[UNKNOWN]: And the train's moving, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So the train's moving.
[UNKNOWN]: So if if you aren't jumping on right now,
[UNKNOWN]: probably going to get left behind in the dust and it's not to say the world isn't going to change for you that much, but I think if you're looking for the advancements in the world that are being offered to you right now or the ability to advance.
[UNKNOWN]: I hear that question a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, if I was coming out of college right now, what would I be looking to do, you know, is there a way to get your, no, there's no way to harness AI right now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's changing, it's in the very, very brilliant minds that are, and even the AI itself is now inferencing and getting better at the models and the learning and how to advance the next level.
[UNKNOWN]: and we kind of hinted on the quantum and Eric U and I have had conversations about that, right?
[UNKNOWN]: To continue as to whether quantum explains, you know, consciousness, and that article in popular mechanics, mechanics that consciousness may be the only real thing there is, and maybe we're just antennas.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we're just antennas.
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if that's the case, but I think.
[UNKNOWN]: But does it mean that we're just drawing into it?
[UNKNOWN]: Or maybe we know how to draw into it?
[UNKNOWN]: Or is it like a Bluetooth kind of, I mean, I'm trying to put it into perspective of what we would know today in our technology as to what this author was trying to, it kind of hit accorded me though.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think.
[UNKNOWN]: I think there's the innate things that we do, just because we do them, and there's things that we think about that what we do.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, you think about animals and sea otters or something I'm really into now, actually, I'll tell you that story later.
[UNKNOWN]: So, because of Nova Scotia or just because you're... Now, my wife is really into these sea otters in Vancouver, and there are amazing creatures, and you can adopt them.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, well, they're kind of like puppy dogs beyond it.
[UNKNOWN]: They are their amazing creatures, but they learned I mean the but they swim, right?
[UNKNOWN]: They they they born their pups, but they learn how to swim quite quickly like deer can walk maybe not the best right kind of it And and what you were talking about those um those blobs, yeah, the green blobs whatever they were yeah, yeah, and how they just kind of maneuvered around that
[UNKNOWN]: that purple light, they had to.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't like it but they had to.
[UNKNOWN]: It's something they had to do.
[UNKNOWN]: I think humans may be have a little bit higher purpose than that because okay there's this sea otter dream about God, do they go to do that?
[UNKNOWN]: Well look what's their religion.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I don't think that they can.
[UNKNOWN]: Well there's the argument on animals as a whole, right, so.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But um,
[UNKNOWN]: The other article I read this week kind of made me think about you as you were crossing the Canadian border with no bear bin for two weeks.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just muddled somehow.
[UNKNOWN]: I failed.
[UNKNOWN]: You probably still would be there.
[UNKNOWN]: I failed in prison.
[UNKNOWN]: I would have been.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but what else made me think about you was
[UNKNOWN]: Trains off the track, the trains still moving down the track.
[UNKNOWN]: I just missed the station.
[UNKNOWN]: You missed the bridge.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not that you cut.
[UNKNOWN]: We blocked.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not the pillar.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you missed the bridge.
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of like watching those drunks in the New York Times station.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't put a paper bag around our blog.
[UNKNOWN]: that we could probably could probably could.
[UNKNOWN]: Might need to, I'll tell you what, while you're trying to regain.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's talk about the burp.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's because there is a message I want to talk to Eric about, because I, oh, yeah, I know, no, no, go for it, just go for it.
[UNKNOWN]: There it was, there it goes.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a hyper form of spawning right there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's unbelievable.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a little vertical.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like the kayak, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: There I am doing the splits in the middle of River again.
[UNKNOWN]: Once we get this power in, it's got like, there's no point in steering now.
[UNKNOWN]: That's like, we have one panel.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: They paddle around.
[UNKNOWN]: One panel, kind of all in a circle, because he's all just paddling on the same side.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the only thing I didn't want to see floating on the river.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, yeah, you imagine what burgers are the whole amount of that for a life queen So I back there so I get to the crickets like one foot deep.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah at that point But there was no risk of them drowning was put at that.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, there was because I mean it was very slippery I mean it was like being on all this different on you just looked at me
[UNKNOWN]: Like crack your head.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, that's kind of a second.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so and I'm trying to hold on to this paddle like it's a it's the, you know It's he man's sword coming up.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a let-in-go Woodford double-loat, that's still is just I think it sells itself.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: Do we really need to talk?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we do need to talk about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's let's bring it in pair
[UNKNOWN]: I know words of SpongeBob too, I was late in hours.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is the delicious barb, and thank you, Casey.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, for bringing out that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's very good.
[UNKNOWN]: Very good.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think I've ever had this, but I know this is what I believe.
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is what a privilege is to go to.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he's mentioned it before, and I know I'm not.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the Jefferson's Ocean, really.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'll do this for you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Jefferson.
[UNKNOWN]: So they age it, I think it's a minimum four years right there, and to be considered a bourbon, and then they take it in a secondary, secondary age it in a fresh barrel, a fresh, charred barrel for another year.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, right, double oak.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so it adds more of the caramel even, Ella, that you get from the oak, and it smooths it out of me.
[UNKNOWN]: Lou, you'd say there's cinnamon, but there's no cinnamon.
[UNKNOWN]: He'd taste cinnamon.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for watching.
[UNKNOWN]: 94 approved it's an easy that's a that's a as you could tell by the level in the bottle is pretty easy bourbon to be right
[UNKNOWN]: It's very, what do you think, Eric?
[UNKNOWN]: Super Carmelia, love it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is vanilla, carmelia.
[UNKNOWN]: Very sweet.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a lovely bourbon.
[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate you.
[UNKNOWN]: For bringing that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's, let's, let's, of course, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So my, my husband, I live in Nashville now.
[UNKNOWN]: So Tennessee is very big on the whiskey.
[UNKNOWN]: But, you know, this is a bourbon podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: So I had to see your ships a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: But you're the paddle.
[UNKNOWN]: You're right next door to Kentucky.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's right next door to Kentucky.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's talk about how Tennessee saved Kentucky from the flood.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, we were talking about that.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, seriously.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know the story.
[UNKNOWN]: Definitely not.
[UNKNOWN]: In my husband is the story.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but the story, I think was that Buffalo Tracer was just still or he had the river washed away part of their Rick house.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, washed away a lot of it.
[UNKNOWN]: It was that the water is rose and all this great bourbon that they have been storing and washed down river and a bunch of lucky people got barrels of it down river.
[UNKNOWN]: OK, he had a good blue.
[UNKNOWN]: Look at we found.
[UNKNOWN]: Can you give me what I caught today?
[UNKNOWN]: A barrel of power.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he was a big loss, I mean, I got 20 barrels.
[UNKNOWN]: He insed that he did recover most of not all of it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But some of it wasn't usable because of what was in the water, you know, I don't hate to think about it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd be like barrels washing down one of the rivers in Pittsburgh, you probably can
[UNKNOWN]: It's got to be honest, my feet were glowing, but I've been.
[UNKNOWN]: So you being into, so whiskey is a bigger, more popular drink of Tennessee than an pharmacy whiskey.
[UNKNOWN]: The Tennessee whiskey.
[UNKNOWN]: All you guys do is ask Chris Stapleton.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, first season has a great one, Jason Aldean, I, you know, Aldean, are they, right, me?
[UNKNOWN]: How do they compare?
[UNKNOWN]: So you obviously had some, how do they compare to the bourbon?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know what, this bourbon is really smooth and I'm not a huge bourbon drinker.
[UNKNOWN]: I prefer whiskey, but I also have to mix my whiskey.
[UNKNOWN]: I tend to go with the spray with wine or something like that to kind of break it up.
[UNKNOWN]: This you could drink just with you know the ice cube exactly what you're saying is how I started I was not a whiskey or a bourbon like you you told me just drinking on the rocks of like No, no, no, so Tanya finally got me back to Jesus, you know what you need to grow some here in your chest Oh my gosh, you know
[UNKNOWN]: So what's the same?
[UNKNOWN]: What's the same?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even understand.
[UNKNOWN]: All bourbons or whiskeys, but not all whiskeys or bourbons, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's the story.
[UNKNOWN]: It has to do with the mash bill.
[UNKNOWN]: The water comes from how long it's aged.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I don't have an expert on that.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a mash bill, but I think a mash bill and it's originally, it had to be the one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it had to be from Kentucky.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't have been yet.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you have New York, you've got Illinois, you've got Pennsylvania.
[UNKNOWN]: Pennsylvania.
[UNKNOWN]: So no one for the ride.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, no for the ride.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the best of my work.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to put it for you.
[UNKNOWN]: And Aaron said he distilling that we are going to and Peter, I haven't forgotten about your brother.
[UNKNOWN]: we're here in a film and episode now we are and we're definitely in a film and episode I just want to I want to get through or somewhere of turbulence and get and get to closer to the when their bourbons are coming out because it's so great to see somebody taking initiatives to bring that back here close to home right he's done a great job you know John gave me an iron city heavy when we stop after eight I think on Saturday doesn't
[UNKNOWN]: He usually just gives me the finger.
[UNKNOWN]: He just gives me the finger.
[UNKNOWN]: That's how we greet each other tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: In the bird.
[UNKNOWN]: I've been stressing to crap to get more furniture.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we're working on it.
[UNKNOWN]: John's going to put that record position in my head.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, you're up to it.
[UNKNOWN]: But Terry doesn't want to.
[UNKNOWN]: He gave me a chance to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: He even had a city.
[UNKNOWN]: It was very good.
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't had one of those forever.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: This is good.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Very good.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that city was a mango.
[UNKNOWN]: I see light mango.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's good, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Then that was pretty delicious.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: As it cracks up at a coarse light.
[UNKNOWN]: The IC I see light was a lime too, John.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a push line.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a push line.
[UNKNOWN]: A push line.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of things.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't go around with those.
[UNKNOWN]: So what's our thoughts, final thoughts on the on the on the on the on the on the on the on the.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's talk about that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a double.
[UNKNOWN]: I can definitely taste it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's one of the Louis Louis to say the color would have captivated him and the bottle.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a great.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a good bottle.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a little thicker.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: A little shorter.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't have a darker color than some of the one maybe it's just maybe it's the the bottle.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: But.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I do think it has a darker color because I was looking at probably the double okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, our pre-drink compared to this one and it was there was definitely a different change.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: This is lovely.
[UNKNOWN]: That's really good.
[UNKNOWN]: First time I've had this.
[UNKNOWN]: I would highly recommend you to put this on the shelf it's I'm gonna have to put it on the shelf Yeah, that's right up there with some of our I mean we've talked about some of the ones we've had that like I think we all really like the piggyback Oh, that was good The uh that that Penelope Rio is like that's what we got
[UNKNOWN]: But we don't have the real, but we have the architect, we both the architect regular and the architect golf.
[UNKNOWN]: So, but this is, that's, that's definitely right.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right out there.
[UNKNOWN]: That's really good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm not a big bourbon drinker, but I enjoyed that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm not a big bourbon drinker either, I give you honest.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you're not being honest.
[UNKNOWN]: You're not being honest.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I have the bourbon podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you, I'll be honest with you, I'm just getting back on the horse, you know, I just had the baby, yeah, I get it back on the horse, I think it's great, but it's great.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's great to see women drinking bourbon.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I said thing to say, but like it's for generally it's well of a guy's trip before our GP and Greg Sipas got me in a bourbon.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was a taunt.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a taunt.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean that was you know Yeah, and we even got Christy Cade well, though.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that was her first.
[UNKNOWN]: That was her very first bourbon.
[UNKNOWN]: That was your first bourbon.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Were you here?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I was here.
[UNKNOWN]: I was in uh... No, it was good.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it was good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was going to be capital of the world.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a good show.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a good show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was a good show.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a good show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was a good show.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a good show.
[UNKNOWN]: It
[UNKNOWN]: She's still speaking to the sound for the show.
[UNKNOWN]: We're probably not at all.
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't have a lot of fun.
[UNKNOWN]: I would be happy to go to LA other than for clients.
[UNKNOWN]: Those last demos in LA is a federal court.
[UNKNOWN]: That was awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: I was just having to be for fun.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, thanks, Sam.
[UNKNOWN]: We're on air now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be in one jaw.
[UNKNOWN]: He's catching up.
[UNKNOWN]: I like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, bad way.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Excellent.
[UNKNOWN]: You understand why we have the leg in the background, right?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: She doesn't need to know that.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we're on a time.
[UNKNOWN]: Look at that.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I think he's always had the leg.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe, kind of but not really, it's a different like, we gotta get a break for the first one, gotta wrap it up.
[UNKNOWN]: So, how do you show us up in Halloween, which is my favorite?
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Is he knows what's coming?
[UNKNOWN]: I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just said, I just
[UNKNOWN]: So my wife, my wife, decided we were going to go to Halloween dressed as Hugh Hafter and a Playboy Bunny.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was the Playboy Bunny.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll show you the pictures off there, although everybody had a freaking world scene of it.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they played better.
[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, we've been holding back in that minute and 40 second beautiful commercial I put together a few, I am throwing that on here.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank god.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank God, we can't defeat only fan security.
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the glossiness of the... Oh, Pennsylvania license.
[UNKNOWN]: So I dressed up for the Queen of the Year.
[UNKNOWN]: We took six photoshopps.
[UNKNOWN]: If we got turned down by only fans, six times.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We just take pitch selfies with your driver's license.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And then together in a part, and we did all this stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So Brad threatened to go.
[UNKNOWN]: I got a friend.
[UNKNOWN]: And I got a friend.
[UNKNOWN]: I see, listen, you are just discriminating against my man that loves to dress in the drink.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, I just up that level, I got a prosthetic chest, chest, stockings.
[UNKNOWN]: Size 13 celettos.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, size 13.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyways, we had a clone, and if you look over Perry shoulder,
[UNKNOWN]: That's Perry's leg.
[UNKNOWN]: That is Perry's leg.
[UNKNOWN]: It did kind of look like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll show you the picture.
[UNKNOWN]: Perry's leg.
[UNKNOWN]: This is if I don't Brad will.
[UNKNOWN]: And that was manufactured in Indiana.
[UNKNOWN]: That was manufactured in Indiana by Krebs.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're full.
[UNKNOWN]: How are you just telling stories?
[UNKNOWN]: That's pretty funny.
[UNKNOWN]: Not now that we are at any side of the tower, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Let's regroup the silliness and we'll wrap this up for some time.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we are back in the first studios.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you noticed our guest is left.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's probably like, okay, I'm done with this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think this segment is not for me.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but Casey and he and I've been wonderful.
[UNKNOWN]: They have two young, two young, beautiful babies, beautiful babies.
[UNKNOWN]: And this was kind of a date night.
[UNKNOWN]: They got a little bit of a reprieve, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So I feel very special.
[UNKNOWN]: I was, you know, we were joking when we bumped into Casey.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's funny, you know, she was joking.
[UNKNOWN]: I was joking, but then I'm like, you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: Six o'clock Monday, let's make a work.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And she's a great guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she was awesome, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So very smart her she's so articulate when she speaks She's got an excellent speaking.
[UNKNOWN]: No, she does.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean if it's a right career.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, and if the tech world doesn't work out for her my goodness She's right back and it may she'll be a national is international journalist
[UNKNOWN]: And what the like our viewers don't know is that we know I don't know her parents as well as I know his parents But I keep calling him Eric because he looks exactly like Eric.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he's exactly like his dad.
[UNKNOWN]: That's Ian.
[UNKNOWN]: So we still call me because he's Ian, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, yeah, and I you know, that's where you'll back.
[UNKNOWN]: So he you know, they were our next-door neighbors.
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't do any great people.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I watch those boys grow up and Ian's one of the best.
[UNKNOWN]: So my wife is really good friends with Val, Casey's mom.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, she's she's she worked for her back in the day that I think S&T bank.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's August.
[UNKNOWN]: She was happy that probably she and they've they've remained friends ever since it'll see each other very often, but and in Casey's parents are two of the most solid of the salt of the earth
[UNKNOWN]: Like Ian said, he said, we'd like to think we came from good stock.
[UNKNOWN]: They both did.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So his brother and his wife, I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know the third brother.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they're all, I mean, is he married to?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't know the youngest brother, Rito.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't go park because they're going to go see Park.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, read orker Ian and Ian.
[UNKNOWN]: Ian parker and read or read.
[UNKNOWN]: Read.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So read, read the youngest in the, you know, he's he's been dating.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's down in Texas right now.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: He's right along the border.
[UNKNOWN]: Cool.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going to make a mean taco, too.
[UNKNOWN]: do some for mama's eat that oh yeah so anyway fifth segment we are on the fifth segment we are here we are do we talk about the word for it yeah because is empty we did we talked about how fast it was disappeared I wanted to see how much of that bottle I could pour in my glass
[UNKNOWN]: That's like a four figure.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think it was, it was him help.
[UNKNOWN]: That's an Eric poor without the, you know, when you're free ball and it's what it looks like.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, there's like, so that he's taking some of that voice.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I like.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it actually is quite a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: If I get through this tonight, that'll be amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this is probably her, but finished recording before you finish at glass.
[UNKNOWN]: Warl, let me see how fast I can finish this glass.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: The challenge is on, it should be added.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's get into some philosophical stuff now that we you and I Absolutely let's go back together after the Canadian border was separate.
[UNKNOWN]: You're getting us separated us.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, they really didn't It was I can't believe it.
[UNKNOWN]: You weren't you weren't across the rainbow bridge.
[UNKNOWN]: We're you That was that's not your fault, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So they really boycotted bourbon they did there's no bourbon and my biggest mistake was I was at New York Newark airport And they had Buffalo Trace and they had Blanton's And I wasn't in the state by either I think because I'm just looking at this thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like oh, no, they of course They had bourbon in Canada and They don't So that was it that was a poor poor decision.
[UNKNOWN]: You know something I could you go to AI and ask
[UNKNOWN]: Where's the extreme exchange rate right now?
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't been following one point four to you is that it's It's exceptionally is that Canadian does opposite oh, it's flipped so that's so it's flipped a little tonight so that's bad for him Yes, bad for that so last time I look point six eight yeah, no
[UNKNOWN]: No, so the last time I actually looked at the exchange rate between Canada and us it was like one point two to you know Canada toss yeah 1.14 now.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's my older hockey players.
[UNKNOWN]: So the states.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know your math with so just real quickly What is the difference between one point two to that that that's a big change so you look at it 40 50 percent Close to 50 percent.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's not good
[UNKNOWN]: It's a big it's a big number.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I can understand why they don't want to buy anything because they can afford it.
[UNKNOWN]: They can afford well, and also, you know, the issues have to do with employment.
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: Their economy, their interest rates and really, you know, what's going on there?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they're their prime ministers banging a singer from the United States.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Katy Perry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's just out you know, he was even the former all that's right.
[UNKNOWN]: He's out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he did the damage all he was there Yeah, he is yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, apparently Well, they're dating.
[UNKNOWN]: They're dating.
[UNKNOWN]: What's the other rumor about who looks like who from Canada?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot, there's a lot
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and you know, but that's a economy that can be changed, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So that's Yeah, they need to know it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's because our burps, you know, it's better than their whiskey.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a pro.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a problem.
[UNKNOWN]: Seven and seven's man.
[UNKNOWN]: I tell you what.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Crown's not bad.
[UNKNOWN]: They're pretty good.
[UNKNOWN]: I used to serve those a lot at the country bar.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: Seven and seven was a popular drink.
[UNKNOWN]: Went down smooth.
[UNKNOWN]: They're Crown Royals good to it.
[UNKNOWN]: Harry, one, one, one.
[UNKNOWN]: You question, did Crown Royals actually?
[UNKNOWN]: relocate.
[UNKNOWN]: They're distilleries to the US.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know you owe me to ask Siri.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you probably should harass Claude in the fuzzy wasn't I don't have the I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have this.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have this
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so brown royal.
[UNKNOWN]: Brown royal is exclusively matched distilled and aged at the 360 acre distiller in Gimli, Manitoba, so.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: That is definitely Canada.
[UNKNOWN]: That's definitely Canada.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a lot of kids still there still there.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, that's okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I ain't off.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm from Wisconsin site.
[UNKNOWN]: I consider myself half You're almost like at the EA you go and everybody thinks I'm French Canadian.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm so not You know, but I I will but that you think in the airy Well, that's where I end up landing.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, yeah, we're born in Wisconsin up in the you know
[UNKNOWN]: Here's close to Kansas.
[UNKNOWN]: So you know, it's funny.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, right?
[UNKNOWN]: There are certain words that you say that have that Canadian, they do like out, you know, sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Can I share with you?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not making fun of you.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I know.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought my notice.
[UNKNOWN]: So this has been a more, a metamorphosis of moving, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So I grew up my whole, how'd you say metamorphosis?
[UNKNOWN]: You can't say a burdenometer.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't say that.
[UNKNOWN]: You grew up.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need to do you really, you do a pretty good job that you're so.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, brother.
[UNKNOWN]: You want me to go to you, girl?
[UNKNOWN]: You were saying you grew up.
[UNKNOWN]: No, so we were all born in Wisconsin.
[UNKNOWN]: And we were halfway between Milwaukee and Green Bay.
[UNKNOWN]: We were in very small towns.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Kurt Lake, if anybody knows, oh, Kurt Lake, they're a race fans out there, which we're gonna have some race car drivers coming on to this show.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, that's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know, so this is, get the inside of connection.
[UNKNOWN]: We do, I mean, to the gentleman that reached out, thank you so much, you can't wait to make that happen.
[UNKNOWN]: That's exciting.
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: I grew up in a very small town called Elkert Lake City, or Elkert Lake, it was only in call to city.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a population of 1,100.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was a resort town that had a beautiful little lake.
[UNKNOWN]: During the summertime for three months, it was the most gorgeous place you want to be during the winter time, you're like, oh my God, it's easy to get out of here.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so cold, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, curling.
[UNKNOWN]: But they all, yeah, we've talked about with Dickens buddy, remember?
[UNKNOWN]: We did about the curling.
[UNKNOWN]: And but they had one other thing there are just outside Elkirk on the edge wrote America Which is the longest?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, which is the longest race track in America.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that's where that was other than walk-ins Glenn, you know, which is the other one up in New York
[UNKNOWN]: so that was in our backyard so our our weekends would be my dad would say hey you want to go down to their yeah I want to erase them and who what kids and him match cars and going oh my god I get to watch you guys you know I get yeah right yeah so you get on you watch the indie cars you watch the NASCAR's you watch the the the the the Corvette.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the M. So those y'all and he had the most cycles coming through when the guys are coming down, you know, they're going 200 miles an hour and they come around those corners with those knees done.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the correct.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and one of my one of my ice, or one of my ice one of my kind of garden friends the first year.
[UNKNOWN]: You did two years and first years, kiddo guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I did, I did, I did two years.
[UNKNOWN]: He gets all serious the first year.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I did.
[UNKNOWN]: Not the second year, kiddo.
[UNKNOWN]: I did two years, I didn't like it.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and I'm friends with his brother, who was my friend in the second year, they were very close.
[UNKNOWN]: in time.
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't have.
[UNKNOWN]: Someday, someday, I wouldn't hear the story about why you did two years of kindergarten.
[UNKNOWN]: I told you why.
[UNKNOWN]: I couldn't sit still.
[UNKNOWN]: I could do my colors and numbers, but I just couldn't sit still.
[UNKNOWN]: And I didn't throw up my milk because I didn't drink milk.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to ask?
[UNKNOWN]: Relax.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm telling you.
[UNKNOWN]: Very much so.
[UNKNOWN]: See, do you think what wouldn't like be our age like back then?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a 45 years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, this is it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
[UNKNOWN]: It feels like like who do we lack toast and tolerance?
[UNKNOWN]: Didn't exist yet.
[UNKNOWN]: You didn't exist.
[UNKNOWN]: We're people now.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you was like, oh, I opposed diving, yeah, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: In trust me if you're in Wisconsin and you're not drinking milk.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they all look at you like you have forehead Well needing cheese.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, why H.E.
[UNKNOWN]: I So they didn't bother no that didn't ice cream didn't bother me.
[UNKNOWN]: Really cheese didn't bother me, but just the taste of milk See to me I just I just I just envisioned it coming out of the other
[UNKNOWN]: I would I could I could drink a tall cold ice cold glass of milk or just about anything else So no cold so not body temp so who's the first person that's decided that that might be a good taste Well, I don't know but I I don't know but I'm glad they did the milk man Yeah, that's around.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, look at that that calf looks like it's enjoying that
[UNKNOWN]: It's your story.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So he was.
[UNKNOWN]: He was.
[UNKNOWN]: I grew up in Cal Country.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, literally it was, you know, uh, you know, and I got all the way to third grade.
[UNKNOWN]: Two years again a garden to get there.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's in third grade and all his buddies from fourth grade.
[UNKNOWN]: They are.
[UNKNOWN]: So I had a lot of friends in the fourth grade.
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, what the fuck were they thinking?
[UNKNOWN]: That was a little immature.
[UNKNOWN]: What you were f**ked.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a reminture.
[UNKNOWN]: He's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: What are you looking for?
[UNKNOWN]: I was fine.
[UNKNOWN]: I told him, hey look at that fire.
[UNKNOWN]: I told you changed.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh wow.
[UNKNOWN]: Well look at it.
[UNKNOWN]: It looks like Canada.
[UNKNOWN]: That kind of looks like Canada.
[UNKNOWN]: That could be like Miss Skoka.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we ran out of the four hours.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: So look.
[UNKNOWN]: Lily, Lily, thank you for changing our perspective on the fires.
[UNKNOWN]: That's beautiful.
[UNKNOWN]: Or that may be, that may be the conema river that I paddled down.
[UNKNOWN]: That was, oh, there I am.
[UNKNOWN]: Doing the splits in the river.
[UNKNOWN]: I swear I heard the banjos.
[UNKNOWN]: They're nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, nearing there, ne
[UNKNOWN]: And you got to move over to the other class.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so done.
[UNKNOWN]: Hold you back.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Who held you back your parents or I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they were told.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think my parents had a kind of buffer that to train, you know, we should be held back, but not my class.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty sure it was a, it was a trifecta of all three of them going, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, guys.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: There's nobody arguing with you in this room.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a president say, move him on and move on here.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we should, and by the way, the kindergarten teacher doesn't want to have them again.
[UNKNOWN]: That's hilarious.
[UNKNOWN]: I hope the kindergarten teacher sees what you've become.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, excuse my favorite teacher too, up to that point.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, good.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to know it really well for two years.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you're like a two.
[UNKNOWN]: I have one.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you have one.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you have two.
[UNKNOWN]: I need a two.
[UNKNOWN]: So we totally we did derail.
[UNKNOWN]: So anyways, that was my kindergarten years and my experience in Wisconsin which was so wonderful.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we were talking about candle and Wisconsin approximately.
[UNKNOWN]: So you talk about the my Annunciation and John Mul.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we'll initiate the stories that that's about the one thing that carried through all these years but the olds and the use and the and the way I would say that stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: So mind you I moved from Wisconsin to Iowa
[UNKNOWN]: Biggest shift.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so they were a little more subtle than Wisconsin.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah But the bigger the bigger change was moving from Iowa and fifth grade to Denver and not having your summer break So that that was the second most traumatizing thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Look at the school year round Yeah, I thought I thought I just got my summer break.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to Denver my dad got a new job out there Got all summer to kind of get acclimated.
[UNKNOWN]: Nope
[UNKNOWN]: Monday morning we're checked in.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to go to, where do you like elementary school?
[UNKNOWN]: Those four?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was six grades, so it was track.
[UNKNOWN]: You got ABCD track, three tracks around at one time.
[UNKNOWN]: It'd run with mile high, so that was probably fun.
[UNKNOWN]: This isn't track like that.
[UNKNOWN]: These are track systems.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so they might do your run.
[UNKNOWN]: No, they at the point, they at the point in the education.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is way back in the 87, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Great music area, by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: If I graduated in 85, so, right?
[UNKNOWN]: He's 18.
[UNKNOWN]: So they only had so much capacity to have students in school at one time so they did a track system.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so you would have three tracks A, B, C, D, that's for.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, but only three of the four.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck off.
[UNKNOWN]: Only three of the four would be in school at one time because they had to keep one out.
[UNKNOWN]: They'd have room.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, wow.
[UNKNOWN]: And they ran it all year round so they could make.
[UNKNOWN]: So you just, you would you go like three days a week or four days a week?
[UNKNOWN]: So it was like, I think it was eight weeks on four weeks off.
[UNKNOWN]: So you guys are really cool break in between.
[UNKNOWN]: And then they gave you like eight weeks after in the winter.
[UNKNOWN]: which was cool and Denver because you got to go skiing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's like pre-musking.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's not, it's not cool when you're moving from I what they can get some of break ahead of you.
[UNKNOWN]: You're like, what's this, what's this done?
[UNKNOWN]: And they go, by the way, you got to go back to school.
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck?
[UNKNOWN]: I went to.
[UNKNOWN]: I repeated kindergarten.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, I feel like I'm repeating fifth grade again.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, but the coolest thing that came out of this, my sixth grade teacher did end up being like, one of my very coolest teachers.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, she was so cool.
[UNKNOWN]: My mom engaged sure to be our babysitter when we were in seventh and eighth grade.
[UNKNOWN]: She was awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, she, she, she made me feel welcome.
[UNKNOWN]: She brought me in, she understood this complex, human mind that comes as still.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: She appreciated it for what it was.
[UNKNOWN]: She did.
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, you remember her.
[UNKNOWN]: Why do?
[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, six grade.
[UNKNOWN]: Six.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I remember six grade.
[UNKNOWN]: vaguely.
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
[UNKNOWN]: Mr. Fairman, he used to throw a tennis ball.
[UNKNOWN]: So to, if he thought you were weren't paying attention, he'd will a tennis ball to back, chalkboard.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we were talking about that at the R&I, too.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I had a teacher in third grade in Iowa, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So we would all, at the end of the day, I don't know if you guys were this way, too, but at the end of the day, everybody kind of crunched towards the door when the bell had ring.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Andy, we kind of get into that threshold.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody's kind of, it's kind of like that crowd at the, you know, a concert that's pushing to the front of the stage.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, you're at the front of the door, you're trying to hold them back, but you know, you're, and I remember, I'm not even going to say his name, I know he's not alive anymore, but it's out of due respect for him.
[UNKNOWN]: He would, he would, he would belt on, he's my very first male teacher, and then when he came out, it was very intimidating, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: you cannot leave this room, you know, before the bell rings, you know, it's God forbid you to do that, right?
[UNKNOWN]: What the hell is that?
[UNKNOWN]: When the bell tolls, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So I was always, you know, first of all, I'm fine, so I'm, I'm holding back the crowd that's pushing me behind.
[UNKNOWN]: And I can't control these, you know, maniacs.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, you know, four foot two and, you know, 78 pounds, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: So, after like three or four of the time, you know, the teacher got so upset, he goes, he kind of grabs me by the ear, twist my ear, like all the way around, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'd go to prison for that today.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they probably would, right?
[UNKNOWN]: But, you know, you learn not to be the person one after that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this is such a good idea after all.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyways, my mom,
[UNKNOWN]: They, they, they, they, they, they look, you know what I'm doing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've been a lot of work since I'm not going to be on it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, Tony, just grab the other one.
[UNKNOWN]: It turns again.
[UNKNOWN]: Tony, please.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, this is a good old day, it's not supposed to be a good old day, so then to now, this story was going in it.
[UNKNOWN]: You can see how easily distracted I get in the way I had to do it two years of kindergarten.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't stay focused on that.
[UNKNOWN]: So we moved it Denver.
[UNKNOWN]: After the year twisting and all the other stuff that you can do now, I will hear it twist it low, but I get the Denver in my accent, or my dialect, whatever you the hell you want to call it, right, in sixth grade, out there, you're getting bullied.
[UNKNOWN]: and then you want to double up the bullying you play trombone because that's the only instrument you're deck in the fore because that's what I put.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, it's because that's what we had.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he's like, I want to play drums.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, you can play drums.
[UNKNOWN]: You can play drums.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm on the night played in high school.
[UNKNOWN]: It's down the basement.
[UNKNOWN]: It's been collecting rust.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, well polish that thing up.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me get it up here.
[UNKNOWN]: Not only was it, it wasn't even a trombone pair.
[UNKNOWN]: I told you it was a bass trombone.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was pretty rare back then.
[UNKNOWN]: I played the regular trumpet.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so this is a bigger.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it didn't have to have the buttons.
[UNKNOWN]: It had the trumpet.
[UNKNOWN]: It had the, yeah, so it had, it had the knob.
[UNKNOWN]: And it had the curl, you know, the trumpet, you know, curl.
[UNKNOWN]: So you got the deeper, you know, and it's bigger.
[UNKNOWN]: There's like a cross between the trombone and the tube.
[UNKNOWN]: And the tube, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is what you were playing at.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I had to play.
[UNKNOWN]: So, so now I'm managing getting on the bus with this motherfucker every morning.
[UNKNOWN]: carry that big case.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm six great.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm all four two seventy eight.
[UNKNOWN]: The case is probably as big as you are.
[UNKNOWN]: Case looks like a small coffin.
[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of where my.
[UNKNOWN]: That's where the coffin.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't, you know, how the trombones had the, you know, cases that went around the, this, this was square.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was big.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to drop it down.
[UNKNOWN]: I can still smell that smell that brass just as you see right now, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I could I can still smell that from touch of that instrument and my hands with smell like it's a smell of brass and spit Yeah, that's a great combination.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So to be a nerd to tell me too.
[UNKNOWN]: So
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[UNKNOWN]: my own way.
[UNKNOWN]: As you can imagine, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I think I'm, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't
[UNKNOWN]: we were having a snowball fight up at my buddy's place and he was most of my friends were Dave's age.
[UNKNOWN]: We just I don't know why it's just most of the people I want to just go through and kind of ask holes.
[UNKNOWN]: But me too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So I hung out with these guys at one of the one that's why hung out with strong women.
[UNKNOWN]: One that year.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Real.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So I, so they were just the guys I hung out with and they were and they're still friends today.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're having this big snowball fight and we
[UNKNOWN]: And our team devised this plan to attack their fort and we took like snow shovels loaded him up with snow and we ran over dumped the snow over there Fort wall and then we took off.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, my buddy Brian had these big thick glasses and the snow I've got packed in behind his glasses.
[UNKNOWN]: He was so fucking bad So he blamed Dave.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, his Dave was pretty scrawny then.
[UNKNOWN]: He's still pretty scrawny.
[UNKNOWN]: He's still pretty scrawny
[UNKNOWN]: So he goes after Dave.
[UNKNOWN]: He protein Dave.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and Brian, we call him.
[UNKNOWN]: I think, more steak.
[UNKNOWN]: He was pretty big.
[UNKNOWN]: And so he got Dave in a headlock and he punched him a couple times.
[UNKNOWN]: And Dave's going to get him off me.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, Beth, a let him go.
[UNKNOWN]: His name was Brian, we call him Beth, I was like, Beth, let him go.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, no, through my face, he's all pissed.
[UNKNOWN]: He punched him again.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, Beth, let him go.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to punch you.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and they were down, he was like down on his knee, and he hit Dave again, so I just wailed him as hard as I could with like an upper cut.
[UNKNOWN]: So he throws Dave down and he comes after me.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he tried to kick me, I threw his leg down, and I popped him again right in the face.
[UNKNOWN]: This was one of the only two times in my life, I've actually punched somebody in the face.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not a violent person.
[UNKNOWN]: And he just looked at me and he goes, Oh, I'm going home.
[UNKNOWN]: So he started walking up with a David Taken, but the hockey stick is turned on.
[UNKNOWN]: Those hilarious.
[UNKNOWN]: That may not be self-defense.
[UNKNOWN]: So, no, no, Balfour.
[UNKNOWN]: So, we weren't banned.
[UNKNOWN]: This was in Jeremiah.
[UNKNOWN]: So we were in junior high and we were still he was he played the baritone.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, oh, yeah, I played the baritone and it's very similar to the drumroll.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And I played the drumroll bone.
[UNKNOWN]: So we sat beside each other on stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: So now it's kind of awkward because I just punched him in the face.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm thinking all he's going to have a shine right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You couldn't hurt this kid.
[UNKNOWN]: So I looked at a little tiny mark under his eye right at him and you know we gave each other the stinker for a while.
[UNKNOWN]: Then we became friends again.
[UNKNOWN]: But
[UNKNOWN]: He gave you this thing I was a little bit down like you said like you said You end up being you end up being friends with you know, we we had that out and then that was it And we're still friends to this day.
[UNKNOWN]: So I hear you one of the few people have ever punched so I I wouldn't have quite a few I'd like to fuck So I love band.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to be on so once I got into I my sixth grade my band instructor asked me to do a solo It was the entertainer on the trombone.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, oh
[UNKNOWN]: That's not easy, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And he did the piano, you know, the piano part.
[UNKNOWN]: So it was I'm trying to figure out this, you know, that's a lot of slide.
[UNKNOWN]: I know Trombone, let's talk, because you're like, you would use your fingers to jump in it.
[UNKNOWN]: Especially when you're short of it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, how do you do that with your arm like?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and it gets better.
[UNKNOWN]: So with the trigger, I could at least, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: What's the trigger?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the bass drum won't have the trigger on it.
[UNKNOWN]: So I could actually instead of having to get down to the fifth and sixth position, do you have that pair?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can shorten it with the fourth with the trigger.
[UNKNOWN]: So you know, under regular Trombone, you would use your finger against the bell, the horn, the bell, the horn, that was like the third position.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so you would, you just, it's like playing a cello or playing a bass, because there's no frets, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: So you have to,
[UNKNOWN]: while violins the same way.
[UNKNOWN]: You just have to know where to place your finger.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the trombones the same way.
[UNKNOWN]: Gotcha.
[UNKNOWN]: So I loved it and I I cried.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: This is probably more than I cried ever trying to figure out this entertainer.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I just wanted to do it and I couldn't figure it out.
[UNKNOWN]: It was so complex on the trombone.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a great song though.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[UNKNOWN]: Pretty epic.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I got like a standing-o and then they asked me to come back and do like a an encore.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was that's cool.
[UNKNOWN]: It was it was really cool.
[UNKNOWN]: So that that encouraged me to go on to 7th and 8th grade and do it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And you uh, Loretta middle school in Denver and that was one of the bigger you know middle school then I earned a band and now you're into real serious band where you're throwing uh, you know, watered up paper into the tubas.
[UNKNOWN]: Because they were straight up.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know if they were right in front of you.
[UNKNOWN]: Everyone thinks like that's easy.
[UNKNOWN]: I like it.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but I did take it very seriously and I loved it.
[UNKNOWN]: And Denver had something very special.
[UNKNOWN]: They had a Denver Junior Symphony Symphony That you could try out for and that would be any it's open to any school.
[UNKNOWN]: to all schools.
[UNKNOWN]: All schools.
[UNKNOWN]: And I try it out for all of them.
[UNKNOWN]: All I try it out now.
[UNKNOWN]: I made first drum bone.
[UNKNOWN]: Nice.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So I never made, I don't think I ever made a higher than second.
[UNKNOWN]: That's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and so that was my peak.
[UNKNOWN]: So what happened after that?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I got to, well, basketball.
[UNKNOWN]: Basketball.
[UNKNOWN]: So we moved to Erie, then, from Denver.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the problem is now it's going to be segment six.
[UNKNOWN]: It's okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's what we just licensed into a week.
[UNKNOWN]: We just gone into the,
[UNKNOWN]: That's not happening ever.
[UNKNOWN]: It's almost like that's why I like that one.
[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, that's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: You're even just, uh, little and like, it's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, you can't.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you and I had been a great first and second trombone.
[UNKNOWN]: Anywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: We'd be great boaters.
[UNKNOWN]: We're as low as we need.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, let's go, oh my god.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, where's the one?
[UNKNOWN]: Together, we run.
[UNKNOWN]: Going to get my head something to do, whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: That was the best.
[UNKNOWN]: So I get the Denver, or I moved to Erie.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm so excited to go to this huge school.
[UNKNOWN]: McDonald is a nice, nice, nice.
[UNKNOWN]: So my parents handpicked as to which, they picked me down, and you can see why.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a reputable school.
[UNKNOWN]: It has, that's a good school.
[UNKNOWN]: Great education.
[UNKNOWN]: Big.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, my graduating class was like 80 or 80.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, my God, that was a thousand.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, God.
[UNKNOWN]: So we had an intermediate school that was as big as Indian ice school.
[UNKNOWN]: Then we had a top school that was, you know, the old school that was, you know, the 11th and it's the old school.
[UNKNOWN]: Ma, there's a ma, meet love.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't let me forget, we're not going into the 7th segment.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't let me forget it, but you're like, I'm dead right.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going into the 7th segment.
[UNKNOWN]: But don't let me forget to tell you about my history teacher that one three times in jeopardy
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.
[UNKNOWN]: That's interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a Ken Jennings.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but he was a Ken Jennings before Ken Jennings.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, what's good?
[UNKNOWN]: He was.
[UNKNOWN]: He's still the host, right?
[UNKNOWN]: He's the voice, he's the host.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So this guy was fucking brilliant, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to add him to get sidetracked.
[UNKNOWN]: That's another show.
[UNKNOWN]: That's another show to just remind me to bring that up.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I will.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to hear that.
[UNKNOWN]: So this basketball story is unbelievable.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's, it's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: How's it getting back to the Tromboon?
[UNKNOWN]: We're trying to talk about basketball and trying to play in Trombone and Eury and so I I sign up And that's where I met Eric Warsaw my best man in my wedding.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was second-tron bone I was first-tron bone and we marched in between 8th and 9th grade for the McDell marching band and you see oh Yeah, awesome
[UNKNOWN]: in the parade and we came close friends and then the marching band instructor that he also taught symphony which was where I was passionate.
[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't passionate about doing the marching and all that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was pretty piece.
[UNKNOWN]: So the symphony piece where I obviously excelled in Denver.
[UNKNOWN]: So I said, I can't do marching band after school, I play basketball, but I can do symphony,
[UNKNOWN]: You have to do both, or else you can't be in.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, really, you're making me choose between basketball and band?
[UNKNOWN]: Terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: That's funny, why is that?
[UNKNOWN]: I did band, and I played Trombone in a half time.
[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[UNKNOWN]: And that is like the most epic Brad Bowman ever.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not learned.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a drunk in the gym.
[UNKNOWN]: Quickly change.
[UNKNOWN]: Go out and play.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I didn't play drum bone.
[UNKNOWN]: I just played in my basement like a freaking nerd.
[UNKNOWN]: They wouldn't be cool.
[UNKNOWN]: But it wouldn't be cool.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody wants to hear one drum bone is coming across.
[UNKNOWN]: Here's a drum bone solo.
[UNKNOWN]: You've all been waiting for.
[UNKNOWN]: I know our speaker says I'm sucks, but this is gonna be awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just waiting here in this.
[UNKNOWN]: This guy could rip the trombone, I have.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, and it's based trombone too, it's not.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a normal trombone experience.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys are all used to this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this guy's just scared us how to run that slide.
[UNKNOWN]: Come in with this slide.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Here he goes with that.
[UNKNOWN]: You can see where my coffin came from.
[UNKNOWN]: coffin trombone case.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm putting wheels on the coffin.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can see.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't charge me extra for that stand.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh boy hold your camera boy.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes, get out of there.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: We bought right wrapped.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to get Gus back to his bed and meet my bed and feed him mine Great guest tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a great girl.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a great guest.
[UNKNOWN]: It was so special to him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: So special have a very close family friend.
[UNKNOWN]: That's doing well
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, epic.
[UNKNOWN]: She's great.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can see why.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a lot of great advice to I think solid advice So when you're looking for advice for youngsters that that there it is.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah
[UNKNOWN]: But she's on the right roll there.
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, she's on the right roll there.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, she's creating a communicating the message of what's going on today.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: So often the whole thing in the fact that I really liked what she talked about in her education.
[UNKNOWN]: She was really uncomfortable with the math and accounting and business.
[UNKNOWN]: But her dad, you know, hey, you should probably study this.
[UNKNOWN]: OK, she did uncomfortable with it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know I was uncomfortable with those important though.
[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't comfortable with the second year of colors I'm getting a garden I got to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're still holding on to that a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to be like I probably see they're pissed about
[UNKNOWN]: Hell, we only went for half a day for one year.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we went for a whole day for two years.
[UNKNOWN]: Imagine four times as much.
[UNKNOWN]: Imagine being this pair.
[UNKNOWN]: A second, you're kindergartener.
[UNKNOWN]: Why you're up?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you're a red shirt.
[UNKNOWN]: The red shirt.
[UNKNOWN]: That's red shirt.
[UNKNOWN]: Line it up in a recess.
[UNKNOWN]: In your first year kindergarten teacher, when you're looking in the eye, I'll butcher a bad ass on a kickball court.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man.
[UNKNOWN]: I was, but you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: That traumatized me.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: I could not sleep at all at nap time.
[UNKNOWN]: When I open, I eat that.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see you guys all next week.
[UNKNOWN]: Glad to have you back here.
[UNKNOWN]: Welcome to the very first six segment.
[UNKNOWN]: We did it.
[UNKNOWN]: Cheers.
[UNKNOWN]: This has been Robin with Bryan.
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