[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to freaky fauna Friday, where every Friday we take a little time and explore some of the freaks of nature from around the planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: We cherish so deeply.
[SPEAKER_01]: So please jump aboard and let's explore the wilds together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, welcome back to freaky fauna friday.
[SPEAKER_03]: Turn the great and diseased mystery.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't sound good.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is actually the best way sounded and felt and probably five or six days diseased though.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't sound like I don't he should say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just respiratory.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we're in the middle of a heat wave.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's only 102 outside.
[SPEAKER_03]: But we're not in a drought.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, we're not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are we?
[SPEAKER_03]: We are.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, I thought so.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they say that we're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's how they could build data centers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, yeah, you need drought, stabbing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, what you see that limo one is under construction?
[SPEAKER_03]: They're building it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We need to organize protests.
[SPEAKER_02]: Data centers are bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not good for the fauna or the flora.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what's speaking of which or the fungi or the water, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that brings us into today's freaky fauna Friday.
[SPEAKER_03]: The eye researched that has to do with the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: See if you can guess what's your first inklings?
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I gave you no hint.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: 85% of life lives in the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so it's a water animal and it's not a fish or a mollusk.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess being a water animal, it, it hunts in the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: It enjoys the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's semi-acquatic.
[SPEAKER_03]: semi-acquatic, correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it goes on the land sometimes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I say mostly it's on land, but it, it goes in the water to hunt.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it can hunt and it can swim on distances even under water.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, don't tell me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me see if I can get it this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You keep talking for a second where I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, you could ask me for like some context clues.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a mammal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, because I don't want to hear it.
[SPEAKER_03]: He has Mr. E, or the great and peaceful mystery, has no idea what I'm referring to.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it could be a fisher cat, is it a feeling?
[SPEAKER_03]: Crap, you already got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a fisher cat or the fishing cat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that's what I picked today.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fishing cat.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why it just popped up.
[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about doing freaks on the first guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was your first guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: You got it, it was a fishing cat.
[SPEAKER_03]: I said it didn't take long, did you know the fishing cats are medium-sized wild cat of South and Southeast Asia?
[SPEAKER_03]: I did.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I thought maybe they were from like all around the world, but I didn't know they were originally Asian animals.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there's a picture here on the Wikipedia, uh, there's one that sits in a zoo, I didn't know that, and that's when I went, that's why right before we started, I went, oh, that was because of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so he's in, I believe he's still in like the animal and bastard house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, because we got to meet him one time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you got to meet the fishing cat.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, the fishing cat or.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, probably, probably on, no, I can't nail my roots.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay, I try it again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Prior, nail roots.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here, I've been reading this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Byverinus.
[SPEAKER_03]: Byverinus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, with scientific names, I know I'm not great at it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just say it fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, probably a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Byverinus.
[SPEAKER_03]: People who I sounded like over a feline specials you people could know what like at least get the idea of what you're talking about All right, yeah, yeah, native of the Asia what part of Asia you say they were said south the East Asia like between jungles like in between India and What's that to the Thailand like and then Sri Lanka yeah, so the jungles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, island of Sri Lanka, which is right off the tip of India Okay
[SPEAKER_03]: Males are larger than females weighing 8 to 17 pounds while females average 5 to 9 pounds, so the males are a little bit larger, and they live mostly in the biscinities of wetlands around river streams, oxbow lakes, swamps, and mangroves is mostly where it praise on fish.
[SPEAKER_03]: interesting stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: The other items they prey on, birds, insects, small rodents, mollusks, reptiles, including snakes, amphibians, and even carrying cattle of cattle.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like normal cats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what's carrying of cattle?
[SPEAKER_03]: Dead, dead, roadkill.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, basically.
[SPEAKER_03]: It means dead meat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Howdy, dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, like, my next enemy because it's me again, dead meat.
[SPEAKER_03]: carry and that's why she just caught calling people.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fishing cat is thought to be primarily knocked turtle.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a good swimmer and can even swim long distances even underwater.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've seen videos of me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're smaller than I thought, though.
[SPEAKER_03]: In the videos, they look just look bigger, but that's because they're very fluffy.
[SPEAKER_03]: In out of the water out of the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, so when they get in the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's from now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I mean, I just mean one of your freaky fun facts towards the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wait till we get there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just wait.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to ruin it, but that's that fluffy fur versus the thinning fur.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, an adaptation they have.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... the fishing cat has been listed as vulnerable on the i uc and red lists and twenty sixteen habitat destruction their global population has been declined by thirty percent in the past uh... three fishing cat generations at least that's what they say on that that's a big deal so what that saying is almost that means a lot
[SPEAKER_02]: So third for humans, three generations is about 80 years, 60 to 80 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it just depends on, you know, roughly, I believe it's 25 years per generation for humans.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that'd be if 30% of humans died in the last 75 years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like, that's a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's billions.
[SPEAKER_03]: billions and billions.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so it's a big number of 30% of population loss in three generations is a lot and genetically speaking, it's a lot too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not good.
[SPEAKER_03]: And layman's terms.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, it was, uh, well, you should we do tax on me and then we have to talk about tax on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Basically this guy back in 1833 gave it its name.
[SPEAKER_03]: You described the cat, uh, the skin from India and he, uh, Edward Turner Bennett in 1883.
[SPEAKER_03]: 1833.
[SPEAKER_02]: He discovered a lot or quote unquote, discovered a lot of, a lot of things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he did like that particular.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bennett did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know, I believe the British Museum of
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so what they would do at that time would basically Other explorers would send in skins.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and biologist quote unquote at the time Would describe the species and then if they felt like it they'd go and look for them Got you more information.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, because I mean in the 17 and 18 hundreds like the national hit stream museum was just absorbing All of all it could
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just taking in as much as sponge.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and like a growing child.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're all of the inaccuracies in the tax army.
[SPEAKER_02]: The funny tax Jeremy comes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is because they did the guys who put it together didn't know what they looked like.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the wall versus probably the funniest one because it's like eight times bigger than what it's supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even though it's already huge.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, walvers aren't that big compared to elephant seals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but when it's bigger than an elephant seal after he makes it, it was probably the size of an elephant seal.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's pretty big.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, let's hear.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's get into some of the characteristics of the fishing cat has deep yellowish gray fur with black lines and they're very pretty.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: The spots, it almost reminds me of like Cheetah print almost like just the spots.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not the same spots to patterns, but from it is what I was kind of here.
[SPEAKER_03]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's probably more accurate.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why they are colored like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would imagine for, uh, dibbling into their environment.
[SPEAKER_03]: Two shadows.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, because they're not very high up on the food chain.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's more to avoid everybody else.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they're like big house cats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't pick one up.
[SPEAKER_02]: They will kill you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like catching general.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to pick one up unless it's a house cat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even some of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a man like a man, Cune.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'd killed two people and they're like, Man, Cune's gonna kill you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can go buy them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think dogs could too, but I mean, a man Cune is like a wild cat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's one foot in one foot out, basically.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's two stripes on the cheeks, two above the eyes running to the neck with broken lines on the forehead.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it has spots on the shoulders and down the sides and the limbs.
[SPEAKER_03]: The background colors as hers varies between individuals between yellowish tony to ashigray.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the size of the stripes range from narrow to broad.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's here.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Fishing Cat is the largest cat of that, that baby.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I can't say that Prilow are prior nailerous because I believe that's the nailerous.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the Savannah Cat, like there's, I'm trying to remember some of the other cats in that group because they have them at the Cincinnati Zoo too.
[SPEAKER_02]: They look like kittens.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how small they are.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, got you.
[SPEAKER_03]: The pull grown.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like desert cats.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I may be what they're called as desert cats.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's it says they have a stocky and muscular body with a head to body length ranging from 21 to 31 inches and eight to 12 inches tall and medium to short legs or females wing.
[SPEAKER_03]: way, uh, to our 11 to 20 pounds and males 18 to 37 pounds.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, so they're showing sexual dimorphism.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then that's like the size of the bobcat, just where everybody knows, but they're short.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Short bobcats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so that's an adaptation for aquatic life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, which becomes intense, which becomes my next.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: A aquatic life.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're fishing cat paws are partly webbed and the paws are completely sheathed.
[SPEAKER_03]: only becoming partially covered when fully retracted.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're always, is that you're saying that in completely she did I said that wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: So their claws are always out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just a little bit, just a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which, so those are both adaptations.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the short stocky build are for animals that are diving a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you get denser.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she's buoyant.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's easier to get down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and you see that with the hippos and even animals like spinosaurus and stuff like that, where they had really short stocky builds, uh, hippos are not fat.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are heavy and muscle.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, what was the other thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: The sheath, so that's for gripping.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_03]: Conditions.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they always, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like how we get wrinkles on our fingers when we get wet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so that's the partially, you know, exposed claws are because they're dealing with such wet and slippery environments all the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_02]: That the muscles are probably locked out a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but then, like you said, they can't extend them fully if they need to for more, but they're always kind of out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just gave a cat a bath yesterday, and he was not a water cat sheet or she.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe most species aren't she didn't like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like these guys and tigers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah, tiger's swimming's pretty cool too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like seeing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... the fishing cat well we talked about where it lived you know primarily it's habitat uh... and that they were thought to be primarily not primarily not turn uh... but adult it says here adult males and females without dependent young are solitary females have been reported to range over areas of four to six kilometers while males range over sixteen to twenty two kilometers i mean it's pretty big for that small with a small cat
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, adults have been recorded to vocalize a chuckling sounds.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's creepy, so I want to ask you if I had a clip for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe go ahead and check the Google at home.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say insert the clip here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, insert here.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you guys go to do that at home.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just, just go and pause Google the sound of a wallfisher cat or fishing cat and then come back.
[SPEAKER_02]: And hey, welcome to the Fisher is different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right, Fisher is not having a Fisher.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a type of week, but some people do call them Fisher Cats to survey knows.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is fishing cat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very different.
[SPEAKER_03]: At home range, it marks its home range using cheek rubbing, head rubbing and chin rubbing, neck rubbing, urine spraying to leave scent marks.
[SPEAKER_03]: It also sharpens its claws and displays the flaming, which what's the flaming?
[SPEAKER_03]: The flame in let's see.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, to bear the upper teeth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha, who lip?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I learned something here today.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've seen them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They smile.
[SPEAKER_02]: They look like.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen cats do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, these guys do it and there's memes about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because they look like they look like they're very uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a smiling man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it looks really bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to murder you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Arnold from T2 when he's when John Conner's like, hey, smile.
[SPEAKER_03]: Try smiling and he's just like,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it looks like it's pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty funny because it's just Arnold doing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really good
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, it says they're they're a diet is Primarily composed the three quarters of it is fish according to this.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what that word is?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they are pescitarians pescivore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh pescivore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so pescitarians like a human thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I figured I was kind of just being done But I was close pescivore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I didn't know was actually the same word.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just know pescitarian And that like you're a vegetarian, but you still eat fish and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's some more fancy than that, but
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's what my aunt was for a long time and she would only fish that I would catch so a picky pescat area Well, yeah, do the farming and just the stuff and yeah, she was against some of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I went out and caught fish and harvested it She would eat that because you knew where it came from and everything gotcha.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I I can completely agree with knowing where your food comes from is very important
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very true.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's I think something we all need to because you don't need to be aware of eggs from our farm and you don't need fish if I caught it and cleaned it got you okay
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, let's see here.
[SPEAKER_03]: It says that the fish and the go-to-vari River Delta, go-to-vari.
[SPEAKER_03]: Their main prey includes catfish, flathead, gray-mullet, green chrome-eyed, and Mozambique, Talapia.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's their biggest threat.
[SPEAKER_03]: And in rodents and crabs, you know, things like that make up the rest of your diet.
[SPEAKER_02]: The top are very abundant there, uh, what was the first, I'll fly, had Mola.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they were ubiquitous everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, uh, what's there's another free, I got to remember to do the Appalachian Mountain Mullet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ooh, that now that sounds like somebody we know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds like myth monsters and mullets territory.
[SPEAKER_02]: That should be his, like, the Appalachian Mountain Mullet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that should sell that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say that should be his mascot animal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that should be, they may be extinct too.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, maybe we'll look.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have a little, like, mallet on actual on the table.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what a mallet is, right fish?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like every scene one, probably.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're like, they fish, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they get pretty big, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they get a four or five pounds.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I've ever caught a mallet, but I don't know if I've caught them cast nuts and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm all that I've caught as my own on my back, my head.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it says, uh, here that they've been observed while hunting along the edges of water that grab prey from the water, and sometimes diving into the water that catch the prey from the banks.
[SPEAKER_03]: It prefers hunting in shallow waters, uh, and spent about half the time lying and wait for prey to approach.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they're very similar in their hunting behaviors to drag wires.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to say it's like a, like a crocodile, but opposite opposite.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, so yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they're waiting outside looking in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, drag wires eat came in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't they jump down on them?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what he's doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm saying it's a similar, there are different continents, but they look kind of similar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Same behavior, same behavior.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what you might what's that word called.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you remember?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh goodness, co virgin evolution.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I knew that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just was overthinking it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where it's that's they're doing a similar niche, they're looking similar matching the shadows of for each.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then behaving similar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though leopards are pantherer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But not close related at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_02]: Besides feelings.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're both feelings, but okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it says here, wild fishing cats mate mostly during January and February.
[SPEAKER_03]: most kittens in the wild were observed in March and April, really.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's so yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So however, fishing cats may may as late as June, but in captivity, gestation periods last 63 to 70 days and females give birth to an average of two to three kittens.
[SPEAKER_03]: The litter size can be as small as one though and as large as four.
[SPEAKER_03]: So somewhere in that range.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, smallest one and largest for that link.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of odd for the smaller species of cats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess one is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's low.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that again points to a coverage and evolution thing with big cats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you think maybe they shrank?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that they are just so similar to big cash, just smaller, that they are putting, they are doing the same reproductive strategy of heavily focusing on one or two young to train them, rather than doing a house cat or even like that, where they are having a bunch of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob cancer another one that do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're a lot of their group will have more kits or kittens.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but Bob can't only have one or two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes I've seen four before that's like probably like these guys extremely rare.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, one or two is probably the most common.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, it says they're, uh, let's see here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to get into their health.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'll animals have sort of different health threats or whatnot.
[SPEAKER_03]: What takes them out, but they are like we mentioned earlier.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are mentioned on the red list.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, as vulnerable, most most free.
[SPEAKER_03]: You fall on a Friday's are right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Unfortunately, there's actually black bears in the humpback whales are the two modern mammal success stories that turned and white tail deer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean they were almost gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were extinct in most of the states.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just watched a video how they actually spread them back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they're back.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all we need to.
[SPEAKER_03]: We will do a combination used to be weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll do a white tail deer part two.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's see here.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, they're biggest like you said habitat destruction is basically the main
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, I think they're doing to them down their sides.
[SPEAKER_02]: The places they live so there's just huge thing with industry and development everything like that that swamps wetlands Art there's nothing there Okay, I can't be that you can't be further from the truth.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the it is the probably highest biodiversity It is one acre of wetland can't I can't remember the actual deed data anymore, but it's like one acre of wetland
[SPEAKER_02]: can, let's say carbon-sump, what 10 acres of forest can.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And our heavy metal sums, like it's no comparison.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wetlands are being attacked, tenfold.
[SPEAKER_02]: It takes anybody can love the ocean.
[SPEAKER_02]: It takes a truly open individual to love a swamp.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I hate work of in swamps.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's just funny, like to think about.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they are some of the most gorgeous full of life placed by the verse.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's so much beauty in them in the animals in them are, you know, people get scared because of the venom, 90% of them are harmless.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like in the venomous animals, I've ran into, or the dangerous animals, like I've been around alligators and I've been around American crocodile and I've been around I can't even tell you how many watermark is in copperheads, rattlesnakes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never had a problem with any of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Never I kicked an alligator the one time to give him to move.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even know it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was a log.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and he moved.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he panicked He was scared and he was bigger than me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, let's see here conservation efforts Uh And butan Malaysia and Vietnam.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is not putan putan
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, here we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me start over here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Punning is prohibited in Bangladesh, China, and Myanmar, all these areas.
[SPEAKER_03]: You see, they're for...
[SPEAKER_03]: What's that they used to use their fur?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, they used to use their fur, gotcha, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: In Boutan, Malaysian Vietnam, it is not protected outside protectorias.
[SPEAKER_03]: And no information is known about its legal protections in Cambodia.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Vietnam, I know a little bit about for this kind of stuff, is they have like big ranges, like, this whole mountain's off limits for everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't do, you can't go into it a lot of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that for a lot of this in Fibians, if you're not actually has some really cool style of Manage of Nuts, then we're all like the tops of the mountains, and they're the weird, because the bottom will be a rainforest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it'll be a temperate forest by the top.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you get different species.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, as you go up in elevation, it's a whole different biomes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, biosphere.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like a candy corn when you think of like, okay, yours.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you can start, like, seeing stuff like not in Vietnam, but you can start by seeing like apes, and then you'll can get to a snowed peak.
[SPEAKER_03]: That'd be sweet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, so I can see that in Vietnam that they kind of, that's kind of their approach to a lot of conservation is that if here's a, here's like an area, yeah, outside of this area, we can't do nothing for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha, but like in this area, we will protect it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they're doing almost like time capsules, if you think of it like that for conservation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying it's right or wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just how they do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just how they're doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, uh, because they do have a healthy population of big tourists industry, so that you can't stop everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, and that's one of the few countries I would go visit is Vietnam.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would grandpa love to Vietnam Yeah, you didn't love the Vietnam war.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, nobody did, but he fell in love with the people of Vietnam and culture the food I can't eat the food, but yeah, and I can't taste horseradish.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't tell you how many times he would cook with his big wok Yeah, it's old white man in eight.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would cook with his big wok
[SPEAKER_02]: I may make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, because he's seen his mama's on doing right exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, do you have anything about their coat?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you know, I was looking on here and I don't see.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if they're ain't talking about the coat, they are I believe they are double-coded.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's look.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what happens with that is the fluffy coat lays down okay, and creates a bubble layer to insulate them while they're in the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the inner coat, those are the state dry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so that's an early adaptation.
[SPEAKER_02]: So for aquatic life or semi aquatic life.
[SPEAKER_02]: So as you go with like otters and stuff like that, their double coats are much tighter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, it's much more like a wet suit and it's more developed, it's more refined.
[SPEAKER_02]: These guys are in the earlier stages of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: They still get wet and stuff like that, but it's not nearly as extreme in the dry really quick and that outer coat takes most of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just, I'm seeing it here, definitely the double coat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's a nice little feature.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder how soft it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can, I know the one in Cincinnati is an animal in Basteran.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe that when he's out, you can touch him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're gonna ask Connor, but I'm pretty sure they're just like house cats.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to feel, oh, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if I could fluff a house cat.
[SPEAKER_03]: did we see them last time we were that down there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I just don't remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess he may not have really been out because of our mother there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nocturnal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: One layer is very short and dense to keep the cat skin warm and dry during the time spent in the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: The longer hair is called the guard hairs give the cat its color pattern, which is great for camouflage.
[SPEAKER_03]: mail is a and we talked about the chittering in part of their courtship as well uh... it kittens learned learned to fish by watching their mothers that's pretty interesting yeah i think you did a good job the fishing cat or really cool field uh... i'm not the biggest fan of the leads uh... that's why i did it no but i think the fisher the fishing cat is pretty cool one
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, anyone in our area since it's a zoo area go check them out.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are pretty popular in zoos.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know where the nearest one is, but they adjust in captivity very well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know a lot of people are a lot of place to use them as animal ambassadors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: That'd be pretty neat to have out the farm.
[SPEAKER_03]: A fishing cat.
[SPEAKER_02]: A castle area is what we're going to get.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why not both?
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll put them in a moat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, so if you're invading falling to the mode, if you get past the cat in the mode and you climb up on the land, then the cast where you're just going to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm going to put the cast where in the mode.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I dry mode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a pit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be so pit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you'd crawl into that pit, that would be scary because it's just going to be like maze runner, then.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're gonna keep running down like a long hallway and it turns the corner if that would be frightening That's just you're just gonna be eviscerated.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, don't fall in the pit We need a pit the drawbridge is up for a reason.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right All right, well, I've been the great and peaceful mystery and I've been Jay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think did a really good job That was a good one fishing cat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right guys.
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