[SPEAKER_02]: what is up everybody welcome to comic book club on Alex I'm Justin on Pete and we are coming to you live for a couple of places on the internet we're live down LinkedIn of course for all your job and needs YouTube twitch and tech this week late in the early jump to the tab of the list yeah so it's the silliest premiere for Steve oh prestigious that's actually what I bet I think we it is the silliest
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ladies and gentlemen who
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, hello.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been live on LinkedIn.
[SPEAKER_00]: God, what does it feel like?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's that highlight?
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, you know, it feels very prestigious.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I should have a suit on.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just have a long explainer post.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, where do you see yourselves in five years?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I had an experience with my child once that reminds me about productivity.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was very real, I felt really taken by that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about this book.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a chance to meet this coming out tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: As we said from telecourse through tiny onion, very specifically.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it is part of the true weird line that so far we see this book is about.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've certainly talked about a lot of them from blue book and red book to
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, a blanket out the day of the boy let this be a devil.
[SPEAKER_03]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it and this is I would say for anybody is curious a little more in line with that last one Which rather than being straight dock you comic your fictionalizing events you're expanding events you're getting more into the story of it while dealing with these
[SPEAKER_02]: myths these legends specifically here of the chupacopra in Puerto Rico mixed in with real life events But with all that setup out of the way what what is the purview that of true weird?
[SPEAKER_02]: What do they come to you where or you came to them where eventually it ended up in this place where it is the story that people can read tomorrow?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, you know, I developed this idea independently from true weird and I brought it to them, not even with the expectation of it being part of true weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just, hey, you guys are my friends, tiny onion seeds to be, you know, blowing up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this, you know, there's a horror book.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's my first horror book, tiny onion, obviously it's built on horror.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if maybe we can do a book together.
[SPEAKER_00]: And immediately, Eric who's like the head of editorial at Tiny Onion, he immediately said, you know, James and I were talking and we think this would be, which slot in really nicely which we're weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they might have been on like the second issue of let this one be in double.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was already reading that book and I could definitely see what they saw in, you know, putting my book in that line.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we definitely did, we added a lot more of like the historical kind of stuff within the preview of the book, you know, this is a very, it's a very grounded book, it's not, like you said, it's not like a dock, you comic, like blue book, red book, but it is hyper grounded, everything of it in it is based on true events with the exception of our cryptid, you know, and that's sort of like supernatural element that we add to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: the story of what happens based on a real-life cryptid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you give us the story?
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if people aren't I want people to know about what's happening in this book.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so, you know, I like to talk about this and call it a one-part like gory creature feature.
[SPEAKER_00]: and one part political thriller.
[SPEAKER_00]: And essentially, the story is our main Hello doggy.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're a professional talk show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you might hear my dog in a little bit too.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so it is, so our human character,
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the best monster stories have really grounded and deep and developed human characters that really drive the story and Lonely is somebody who survived Cherokee Maria in Puerto Rico.
[SPEAKER_00]: She had huge personal losses of family members of her home.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now eight years later, we see her again and she's an activist.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's somebody who was in a way radicalized by Hurricane Maria.
[SPEAKER_00]: She saw the way the US government abandoned the island, abandoned her.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now she's fighting against this over-development.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's happening in Puerto Rico.
[SPEAKER_00]: In particular with our story, it is a luxury hotel development.
[SPEAKER_00]: called Alma that's going to be built on which should be protected land but because politicians are so corrupt essentially this American businessman has bought the rights to make this hotel on stolen land essentially on which should be public land.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so she's like a leading activist in that fight and in the midst of all this during the groundbreaking of this resort called Alma.
[SPEAKER_00]: a centuries-old chupacavitas is a woken and seeks revenge, you know, because he is a creature that is existed over the course of at least 500 years and has seen every level of colonization of the island, whether it was the Spaniards arriving in 1493 or it was the Americans arriving during the Spanish American War and all the way to present day everything that's happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is, you know, desired nothing but rest, but is continue to be a woken.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now, you know, defend itself against this, this development.
[SPEAKER_00]: And throughout the story, you know, our main human character and our monster character, of course, will meet each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they will see each other in each other's eyes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, that's kind of where we take off in our first issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious about the chupacabra because when I first heard about it as a kid, I heard about it as a Mexican monster, is there are there regional differences, like is the myth of the chupacabra chupacabra, excuse me, different for Puerto Rico than it is for Mexico, I assume there's connections there, but
[SPEAKER_00]: What are the answers?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what's interesting about the Chibogaudas is that it doesn't really have an established mythos.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a very young cryptid, it originated in Puerto Rico.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first time it's ever named is in 1995, so it's not that old, but the legend can be tracked back to like 1975, this creature called Envambito de Moca,
[SPEAKER_00]: mocha's a town in Puerto Rico, small town, and and Vampito's the vampire of mocha, essentially.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's very similar to what we understand that you look at right now, you know, this sort of like quadruped dog-like creature that sucks blood from, you know, livestock and terrorizes farms and villages.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in the 90s when, you know, it's sort of, so I grew up in Miami and I grew up watching like what do you see on in the limundo with my grandmother.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was this show called pretty many backdoor, which was, you know, it airs all over Latin America and it's like a tabloid new show.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, you know, um, like at the grocery store when you used to see like world weekly news or I'm put for a name.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like that, but as a TV program, you know, and every week, they were tracking the trip of us somewhere in Latin America.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it might be in Puerto Rico one week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you might have like a farmer in El Salvador or Honduras or Mexico or the American Southwest.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, there's similarities, but the trickbook out of the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not a travel for the trickbook out of the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: To make it all, yeah, yeah, it's all, you know, it's spreading, but yeah, like so there's like the dog like one and then there's also like a kind of alien bipedal trickbook out of that is also seen.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's there's like too pretty much differences, but I don't know, there's no real rhyme or reason from what I can tell us to like, you know, Mexico has this one and Puerto Rico has that one art, you know, it's kind of spotted all over the place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Since you have these multiple elements going, the very real world elements of what is what did and is currently happening Puerto Rico at the same time as you've got this monster.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you make sure to modulate that?
[SPEAKER_02]: So it doesn't just turn into like monster slasher feature, which mind you fun, but that's not what you're necessarily going for here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I think that's what the chupacada has been relegated to in media, you know, in the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for me, I wanted to make something that was deeply human.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, my favorite monster movie growing up was creature from the black lagoon.
[SPEAKER_00]: And still is, not just growing right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, and I also love the shape of water, and what I tried to do with this book and what I think Danielle, the artist, Danielle Lee Desadi, did such an amazing job on designing the arborginesjubakavitas, is taking it on that same journey that the Gilman goes on from creature from the Black Lagoon to, you know, the shape of water, and that like humanization of it, that you can see every emotion on its face, you can see love, you can see anger, desire, and also
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so that's kind of the journey that Daniel and I tried to take the Chubakavadan from, you know, this like rabbit dog to a creature that has lived for 500 years at least and has experienced so much trauma just like the Puerto Rican people have experienced so much trauma over, you know, this half, you know, five centuries.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, that's kind of the balance that we tried to strike where there are those moments where it is a monster's creature, it is terrifying, it is bloody, it is gory because that's something that, you know, you want to see in a monster movie in a monster book, it's what I want to see too.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, the human elements are the most important part of it and it will ground it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And on the flip side of that, it feels like the developer villain here.
[SPEAKER_01]: is almost the opposite.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, looks like a human, but his face is frozen in a way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like the look of his look is so specific.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you talk about that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to speak for Fethaniel, but you know, he's he's an amazing cartoonist.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you guys read the book.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anybody who's listening that will read the book when it comes out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it is it's a
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a very unique cartoonist to the direct market, you know, I don't think there's many people who draw like he does and you can see everything on that guy's face, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: His name is Hunt, the developer.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mean, I love the design for I literally hadn't no notes.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you see on the page is the first part of the character design.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm glad we're talking about the art because it is phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love the whole vibe of the book.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also love all the
[SPEAKER_03]: the art and importance that's kind of injected in this book.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was very moved by it so congratulations on such a great first thing you.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I want to know just selfishly like what was your favorite part?
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it getting back the art?
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it kind of being all the craft this story?
[SPEAKER_03]: What was it talking to podcasters or honestly like what is your what is it any one of those?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know I have to say being live on like LinkedIn Yes, we get that answer a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: We get that answer a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, for me, my favorite part is almost always like the blue sky period, like the research period, the, you know, anything can happen period.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm a big outliner.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I go really deep into my outlines, like I write long outlines that is everything to happen to the book.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when I script, you know, there's still room for discovery, but when I'm crafting the story is honestly my favorite part, but I also look at that so different than the production side of it and like getting the art, getting the colors, because that to me is also super exciting, like then yet is an artist who I've never worked with an artist like this where he sends every page one at a time.
[SPEAKER_00]: as he's doing it so I'm like you know for me it's almost like I'm reading like a web comic you know where I'm getting and I love it you know I'm getting every page like I'm assuming minutes after he's done how that's the presses you know yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like it's amazing to like writing it was obviously this book I wanted to write for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was away from the direct market for five years.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did my book home five years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I sort of fell into doing graphic novels in the book market for all this time, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone's so I'd pop in for like a DC short story or a Marvel short story.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, graphic novels were what I was doing and that's a long process.
[SPEAKER_00]: It takes, you know, and you often don't see pages until the book is complete, the entire thing, and the artist will send you, you know, here is my 200 pages of thumbnails.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's my 200 pages of inks and then colors.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this has been like a really awesome process.
[SPEAKER_00]: To not only see the pages as they're coming off the press, but also to have something being released so quickly, you know, when I Cellographic novel to a publisher, it's at least three years from the time that I sell them on the idea to the time the book hits the shelves And this is obviously so much faster.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's it's been amazing, you know, every every aspect of this been awesome
[SPEAKER_02]: it sounds like you're not exactly coming at raw if you've been doing little things here and there, but where is there any difficulty getting back into the pace or getting into the pace of the single issue after being the OGN world for so long?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you know, I view them both very differently.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I view OGNs as a movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I view this as like television, you know, where a graphic novel, obviously, you can read into one go, you can read it, you know, and whatever pace the reader decides, but it is a full story.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to have a cliffhanger, you don't have to get people to come back for the next issue, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this has been really different,
[SPEAKER_00]: but also I'm sort of flexed at a different muscle and I'm now not going to be like it's something I enjoy a lot and I have another series that comes starts coming up from boom in September so like it is something that when I got back to it doing this book I wanted to keep making you know single issue series while I keep making my graphic novels I feel like my graphic novels are almost like my day job you know it's like
[SPEAKER_00]: I, it's very scheduled and then I do adult comics, you know, as my, like, you know, whenever I have time and, you know, it's a fun kind of different exercise, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Before I forget, I wanted to mention that every week on the show, we have a professional chef down in New Orleans.
[SPEAKER_02]: He runs a great place called the Shift where he usually creates a cocktail either for our guest or based on the thing they're writing and this week he created a cocktail called
[SPEAKER_02]: Righteous Fury based on your book.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's dark-rumb, guava nectar, juice, lime juice, green chartreuse, honey syrup, agnister of bidders, sea salt, and four rosemary sprigs to light on a fire.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he mentions he lives a very bad half.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see what the cheaper cover would do with the people around here about coastal restoration, just saying this cocktail is designed to hit all the notes of a legited port of Rico, the cheaper cover being a supernatural protector, a warrior, et cetera, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Imagine going to a bar and saying, let me have a righteous fury.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's round of righteous theories for the bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a couple of questions here.
[SPEAKER_02]: At least one question here.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was a serious question.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a serious question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because what is mouth man doesn't have much of a like a righteousness backstory.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean the mouth man just weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a giant mouth man that flies around to the woods.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how I see him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we got another one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is off of the shape of the water.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shape of water come in.
[SPEAKER_02]: But so cheaper Comprehensible friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Could be expensive robots here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or not really.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be honest, not really, but there was a, I pitched this as a six issue series.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a five issue series in reality now.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was a version of it where there was that romantic exploration.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, maybe in a future sequel series, we'll have some room for that, but yeah, that was definitely, it's not the first time I've been asked that question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why does it say that if you're your two refs of shape of water, I'd encourage you to blackle goo and I'm like, yeah, the romance is right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, do you see what you're putting into this book resonating with what is happening in 2026 or are you more speaking to something that happened in the past?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's a very active thing, so what I talked about before about, you know, U.S. and European land developers coming to Puerto Rico and essentially given, being given permission by the government to build luxury housing and hotel.
[SPEAKER_00]: developments on which should be protected land Puerto Rico has this really unique thing where all of the beaches are meant to be public.
[SPEAKER_00]: The beaches are for the people.
[SPEAKER_00]: But of course when you build these luxury hotel developments, a big part of it is the privatization of the beaches.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's something that is illegal under Puerto Rican law.
[SPEAKER_00]: But in reality, it is privatization because people aren't able to actually get to the beaches anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that, you know, that doesn't even touch on the fact that Puerto Rico is one of the places in the country that has become the most unaffordable places for people that are native to that area.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it is a, it's a colony of the United States and the purpose of a colony is to extract resources and bring it back to the mainland.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what the U.S. have been doing to Puerto Rico for the last
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, 300 years since, you know, my math is not good, but, you know, since the 1800s during the Spanish American War.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I've seen this resonate with people, you know, I know a lot of people who are activists that are fighting against a pro, one of the big influences on this book is a real life project called Essencia.
[SPEAKER_00]: which is a sort of combination luxury housing and hotel development that is essentially going to be like a mini city that's being built in Puerto Rico for millionaires and billionaires.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in a time when Puerto Ricans are struggling to even have access to water.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, right now, like as we speak, there's a huge water crisis on the island.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I've seen a lot of reactions from people both on the island and people that have been forced to move to the U.S. to the mainland because Puerto Rico's just no longer affordable to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you know, it's a very real thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this book is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I loved it before we let you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously people should check that out tomorrow, but is there anything else you want to plug anything else of yours people should be looking for?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, you know, the first issue comes out tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely pick that up five issues.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in September, I sort of mentioned it quickly before I have a
[SPEAKER_00]: Another series at Boom called No Gods No Masters, it is a Kaiju book, but by the way of I would say walking dead in paper girls, where it is a survival horror Kaiju book, where it stars these three working class kids who are just trying to survive a New York city that has essentially turned into an apocalyptic wasteland, thanks to Kaiju's.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, that one is which Kobe Sensei though is the artist who I've done a bunch of books with.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of my best friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and yet we're we're really excited for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, if you are coming to St.io Comic Con, uh, there will be a panel that boom is holding where there will be some surprises.
[SPEAKER_00]: There will be, uh, we'll be giving something away to everybody who comes in that will then, I don't want to spoil it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it will, it'll, it'll be a part of every issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: A kid you are you giving away a kid you baby kind to give away a kind yeah a little pocket kind to you everyone get bigger yeah just don't feed him after midnight yeah so so I have that coming up um so uh yeah i hope everyone checks it out
[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome, Julia.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much for coming on the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Congratulations.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for having me guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take care.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great to see you back here in Monthly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I cut him off by.
[SPEAKER_02]: But everybody should check out Bees of Buttercadden.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is coming out tomorrow from Dark Horse and Tiny Onion.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really is a great book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Beautiful book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very well told and an exciting story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited to follow it going forward.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I really enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, and folks, we're gonna move to our next section, which is my favorite section because you all bake it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is your audience question And for audience questions all you got to do is drop a question in the comments and we will get to that But while we're waiting what are you guys drinking this evening just in yeah just what makes it cocktail looks lovely
[SPEAKER_01]: I made a cocktail.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also drinking cake beer.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have, uh, we had a birthday party red solo cups, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: As I'm living a stereotype and that stereotype is real.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a party for my mom's 70th birthday.
[SPEAKER_01]: I accidentally, when you put this cup hits your hand, it takes years off your life.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to try it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's amazing to found them youth a cake.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, we, I actually, what does that be behind you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that a black light poster of sexual positions?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, you're going to want to check this out Alex.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to like two through seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can guarantee that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and this is a bunk bed, which is the original place for a cake related sex.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I accidentally ordered what I thought was to a half cakes, but half cakes are full cakes and quarter cakes are half cakes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now we have a lot of beer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do they do that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why do they do that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why do they do that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why do they do that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why do they do that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why do they do that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why do they
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a normal combination, I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit of apparel, lime juice, and lime aid, very good summer.
[SPEAKER_03]: I usually can't mix liquor and beer.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's impressive, sir.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a rule.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a little poem about that that I'm publishing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That I'm publishing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so I was about to blow up your spine.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, Alex, don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really trying to make a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really beautiful.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they have it in the subway.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been doing a co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co-co
[SPEAKER_01]: We're saying to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kakeshan, how about this, Stray?
[SPEAKER_01]: I will send you a video of me doing a Kakeshan at some point in the next week.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say, I will save it for a next week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it will take you a whole week to finish that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I should mention we've been doing this thing where we've been challenging people to eat a slice of pizza in three bites, you get $25 to Midtown.
[SPEAKER_02]: How about if you can finish a whole bag in one sip?
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll give you $20.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, three hundred and forty six.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a corpse Time for a comic book club.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you drinking?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't have a garage, but I got the beer Yeah, a little garage beer action.
[SPEAKER_01]: That looks like a bottle of peroxide.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you sure that's beer?
[SPEAKER_01]: There it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: The label is helpful.
[SPEAKER_01]: You look like you got something from an apothecary that you
[SPEAKER_02]: And the way you live in the country, it might be the only place to get stuff and you're going to have a couple of questions coming in But while we're on the topic of garage beer or Peter you getting psyched for this weekend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you getting hyped for that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll great guys that MSG Yes, we're talking of course about the Travis Kelsey Taylor Swift wedding that is real good to be out on MSG this week had Travis sold out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I tried to get tickets.
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't
[SPEAKER_03]: wait, are they really selling tickets?
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, he owns garage beer.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I brought it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pizza, huge fan of both the T-shirts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Co-owned T-cales.
[SPEAKER_02]: Co-owner, who's the other owner, his brother?
[SPEAKER_02]: Brother?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, great, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's keeping a separate from the T-swip.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting that carved out and they'll nuptials.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, she has a white club business or whatever that's.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's the white is club.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sharkless.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are your favorite cryptids up to you if you want to interpret that romantically or not?
[SPEAKER_03]: romantically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great question.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will let me say I'll just love cryptid stories are the best because you can see the Formation of them that's like people sitting around telling scary stories to kids to scare them and that's I am in the woods right now The cryptid up here that we sort of made up his name Hermy he's a lake monster that looks a lot like
[SPEAKER_01]: Man thing, you could say, and we've been scaring kids now for two generations underneath me, and it's a blast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know this is a little bit of a sellout, but I really did like the Chupacabra that was always my favorite cryptid growing up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I have one now.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Mothman is like at the bottom of that list, because like I said, I just don't understand what's scary about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to go to the origin.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mothman, big foot, it's my favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: all those.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like as you borrow these.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a question here from Tom and D'Array.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Tom, it looks like a super old writer and an agarra misinterpreted the ending of the woman of Tom comic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll avoid spoilers, but I'm curious how you all read the original comic ending.
[SPEAKER_02]: much debated this topic yes we talked about this I think this was back when they launched these studios we did our required reading series where we went through a couple of the things that James kind of mentioned including Supergirl Bonnet and tomorrow so we talked about this to give the breakdown.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is spoilers for Supergirl woman in tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: The comic, not the movie, not the movie, not the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: They, uh, Supergirl and Ruby, jump on the movie?
[SPEAKER_02]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, Supergirl and Ruthie this young girl who are traveling along tracking this guy named Krem of the Yellow Hills.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have him down on a beach.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like maybe Supergirl is going to kill him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and Ruthie,
[SPEAKER_02]: stops her and it turns out that what Supergirl has been doing the whole time is a lesson she's been trying to teach Ruthie to despite all the negativity of the universe, despite all the horror, you can still make a choice to go the other way.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what she expressed to her, then they cut forward a couple of hundred years where Krem has been in the phantom zone
[SPEAKER_02]: he has become reformed, he has become a apologetic, they bring him out, he's an old man, and he apologizes to Ruthie and says, oh, if there's anything I can do to take it back, I would, and we see in silhouette it certainly looks like Ruthie takes her cane because she's very old now, the wax him on the head, and he lies there dead, and then after all this time she has killed him, or maybe not.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what we talked about.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's sort of the,
[SPEAKER_02]: the ground level.
[SPEAKER_02]: How did you see that original ending?
[SPEAKER_02]: How did you take that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I took it as she did kill him, and I feel like that was, you know, I don't know the authors intention really, but that felt like the intention of the silhouette is you're giving a little bit of space for interpretation, but it's also a way to not have it be so gory and bloody of a death that feels like it mythologizes in a little bit, but I think she did kill him.
[SPEAKER_01]: being in the lesson being like some scars are so deep that they are timeless and her revenge is still, she needs it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pete, how did you say it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I've blacked to people with canes for many reasons, and you know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sometimes you do it just for a kind of like, you numb skull, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of the old jokingly to lack, but
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah, sometimes you mean it and then By the way, it was one of the three studios I believe for the era.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm skull.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I couldn't get my boys high pitched enough that they were like you're you're losing comedy and I was like that's a store my life for all So yeah, I Yeah, I can see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can see it going either way on that that's a kind of a you know choose your own adventure ending if you ask me
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... sure that's one way of putting it i definitely i'm more on the side of what Justin is saying in terms of i definitely think ruthy kills creme at the end of the comic book series the things that complicate things a little bit are we
[SPEAKER_02]: See what happens for Ruthie says to Supergirl.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm listening now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm listening to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hear what you are saying to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't kill Krem.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we're also told immediately afterwards when the narration from Ruthie goes away in that final scene, that what we've been seeing so far potentially has been Ruthie's book, the entire time, and she has been mythologizing in.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's hard to tell with what what what
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe what we've been seeing as much as this possible is true, like the actual thing that's happening, and that's juxtaposed with Ruthie's book, or we might have been seeing Ruthie's book, either way, there's a lot of things that happened in the 300 years, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, Krem clearly became sorry and were told, I don't remember exactly how it breaks down, but the first 100 years, he sort of like rattled against this, is enclosure, second 100 years,
[SPEAKER_02]: third set of 300 years, he started to reach out to people, felt sorry, felt tried to better himself and improve himself, like you want to do from rehabilitation in jail.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think he has actually gotten better and feel sorry for everything he did, but it's possible that Ruthie went all the way back around.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like if we take that sauce true, Ruthie, in her youth, had the idealism of her youth.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: We could be better.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then by the time she isn't your death, she's like, ah, screw it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then cocks him on the head.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think, frankly, like, I've been thinking about this a lot with a lot of the people in our government, frankly, who are old or the, you want to talk them in the head?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I would like to, but more so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there is this feeling when you get towards the end of your life where either you're like, I want to leave a legacy that's good and
[SPEAKER_02]: And it doesn't matter anymore, so it's all BBB, and I think there's a potential interpretation where that's where Ruthie has gotten to, and she's like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm about to go out, let me just take crap out, that's gonna be more satisfying for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and yeah, there's an in bitterment to a lot of people that age brings out and it's tragic in the real world and but it's a very real thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think partially that's what I interpret as is she becomes a bit of a villain by the end of the story because of the where of what happened to her on her life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's also tough because like, you know, there's so many kind of crazy deaths in comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, just some beliefs if you drop a boulder in somebody, you're not necessarily dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I would be surprised to believe that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's so relaxing with a cane that they're immediately going to be dead, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to see, I want to see a corpse at all times.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean that in the comics and reality, like if there's not a corpse, I, that person's alive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we've solved that ending and I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought there was one other question, but You kid is yelling more questions out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's I love drinking root beer.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a great question Yeah, that's not a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a statement, but let me throw out there Yeah, I love drinking root beer opposition to a straight bullet is saying very strongly that it was That he held it crème held his head and so he could not be dead
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, he held his head and then fell flat on his back on the floor because we see a pie there for several paddles as they walk away.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a big head pain.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you think he's there the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get back to this other question.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Ridge drinking root beer.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think, Pete?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also love drinking root beer.
[SPEAKER_03]: And thank you for asking if I love root beer because I do.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, wow, I mean, they're all great, but for different reasons, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: What are those reasons?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the different flavor, you know, kind of a taste and, you know, enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Perch period is like if cream soda and root beer had a lovely child.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's a good combo because Yeah, creeps out a too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, Saspiril is a little sharper.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't had it in a while, but I always preferred Saspiril up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it had a little bit of a bite to it that the other two don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rupyre?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a you grew up with Jonah Hacks in the wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Saspiril and the way you say it, uh... Long Saspiril!
[SPEAKER_03]: Saspiril!
[SPEAKER_03]: Please, I'm a mozi on up to the bar here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, why not?
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you ever had a Saspiril up?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so, but I've never been in an old-timey um, you have a prostitution house with some piano player.
[SPEAKER_02]: I grew up in Deadwood.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you guys are familiar with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we got another super girl question here.
[SPEAKER_02]: What super girl comics would you have like to see adapted that warrant woman of tomorrow?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great question especially because we we talked about this recently about the story that Mark Wade did in What was that what anthology was that in it was in the super girl summer super girls anthology from last week I want to say what he's like let me fix all this insane continuity of super girl So it's tough and also there aren't a lot of standalone super girls right
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, when you think of great runs on SuperCurall, exactly what you're saying, just it like Sterling Gates and Jamal Eigles run was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: So good, but it was right off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably getting this wrong, but it was like right off of the new 52 right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just sort of at the middle.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's some really good stories there, but
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what you do off of that as a movie and same thing with like Peter David's run like that's cool but do we really want to see a protoplasmic supergirl show up at a movie?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree I don't want to see that in a movie but I that's maybe my favorite supergirl run as Peter David's because it was weird it was like it had nothing to do with the canon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything's good of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I want to point out we are professional businessmen to add journalists.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we're on LinkedIn.
[SPEAKER_01]: When LinkedIn were our wives pop in to get some stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Still here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bold to call us journalists.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are journalists.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, I mean, that's honestly probably part of the reason to be on the fact that Todd K. was in the DC Studios writers room that they went for supergirl woman of tomorrow and all is it is a stand-alone, supergirl story that is a very clear, it's story arc as it goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it is adaptable where other things are necessarily.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to be to just give you a preview, we are going to have our take on super cool coming soon.
[SPEAKER_01]: But any, any thoughts on the box office that's been gone around, you'll never see the number.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, baffle bill.
[SPEAKER_02]: Baffle bill.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know a tank.
[SPEAKER_02]: It absolutely is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love giving Pete the news.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not this bad news.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it did terribly.
[SPEAKER_02]: It got $38 million to the domestic box office, which is worse than like more BS and.
[SPEAKER_02]: The more obvious, the more obvious, so that's not too well and then the international was pretty abysmal as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was not to slag off at other podcasts, I won't say the day because I don't want to be mean to anybody, but there's a pretty prominent podcast that called Supergirl, the end of Superhero movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a little, that's a hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was an article I think of in DeWire.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's it in DeWire?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they were being serious about it and they were like, there was something where one of the hosts was like, I felt a certain amount of calm because I was like, well, we watched the movie, we'll talk about it in the podcast and we never have to think about it or talk about it again.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, okay, that's you personally, that's not the death of superhero movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: The better point that I think came out and again, I think this was in DeWire, it may have been the rap, I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they did a breakdown of the past couple of years, a superhero box office at their point, which I think we all know is like, Supergirl is not the end of superhero movies.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been physically out for several years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's not pretend like this is some sort of tipping point.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just another example of if people don't, if people aren't like crazy jazzed to go see a superhero movie, like they are going to be in a month's time for Spider-Man.
[SPEAKER_02]: it's it just doesn't feel like a I have to go see this in the theaters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well I agree with you I think it's it's crazy to be saying it's dead when you're you know we're about to have two huge hits Yeah, I think between Doomsday and Spider-Man so it's it's a sort of a crazy statement that they
[SPEAKER_01]: sort of made, but I do think, hopefully it's the death of a certain kind of superhero movie, where it's very formulaic and something that feels like not really labored over in a positive way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, this movie wasn't labored over, but like just like innovated upon, I guess I would say.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I hear you on that, but I do think,
[SPEAKER_02]: there's always going to be bad movies and there's always going to be good movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they'll probably take whatever the wrong lesson is from this, but the bigger thing that I've been thinking about is that I think DC Studios is at a fair amount of trouble and the box office analysis I've seen for the most part has taken it as little.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Superman did $618 million a worldwide last year and that's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we have Supergirl, and it did abysmaly, but that's just maybe a hiccup.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing that they're forgetting is there's also peacemakers, he said too, there's also creature commandous before that, the suicide squad is tied into it, all of these other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think whatever you think about them qualitatively, just in terms of viewership and or
[SPEAKER_02]: how the things have been received.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been a mixed to negative bag for the DCU so far.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like creature commandos, critically it did pretty well.
[SPEAKER_02]: People who liked it liked it, but it didn't pop into Nielsen ratings at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was no real viewership numbers for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Peacemaker season two was way lower than peacemaker season one.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I don't want to make too many qualitative statements, but there was a lot of discussion about the ending of that season with even fans talking about how much they really didn't like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Superman got glowing critical reviews, it did fine at the box office, it made its money back.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Supergirl, we have got pretty bad to mixed reviews and then did abysmal at the box office.
[SPEAKER_02]: So four projects that are row and all of them have not been resounding successes.
[SPEAKER_02]: This isn't a case of, I see people call out like Iron Man 2 or Thor the Dark World, where they're like, well, Marvel didn't panic with that happened, and I'm like, well, first of all, they probably didn't be how you see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But second of all, yes, those were blips.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were blips in between things that people generally liked, otherwise.
[SPEAKER_02]: And here we have a wash of things that are mixed to negative, and that's not good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think lanterns will booie a little bit of that, even though it's TV.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that and we've talked about how clayface being a $40 million dollar har movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel pretty good about that overperforming because it's not hopefully going to be lumped in.
[SPEAKER_02]: The one mistake if they end up putting Batman in that, people are going to lump it in with a super bad movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really hope they don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just keep it as a clayface har movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be not so stealth surprise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but I also like what Batman were they put in?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I feel like they
[SPEAKER_01]: They would be, to me, it'd be hard, it's hard for them now because of the way they've done Batman.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's put Batman and Clayface.
[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully they will stick to their guns and just make it that movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the evidence is pointing to them, doing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And not putting like DC Studios presents Clayface and just being like, here's a movie called Clayface.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what this means.
[SPEAKER_02]: yeah and the bigger picture thing is we'll see if it actually goes through because there's problems with the UK now but with paramount buying water brothers there's going to be changes across the board at the company if that goes through and if you have a division that is not performing there are going to be changes there so we'll see we'll see where we are
[SPEAKER_02]: That is also happened many times with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I also think Stray Bowies was talking about Batman's going to do well and I think that will do well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Batman Part II is going to do just fine what it comes out in 300 years or whatever they're done making.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's supposed to come out next year now, I guess, and it probably will do great, but we were talking about this on another podcast, I think, that this is what WB does all the time, is they're like,
[SPEAKER_02]: things aren't going well pulled out that fan rip cord and that they're like oh that did well more Batman movies please if they get around to other like oh we should try some other characters that they do not work and they're like that bad it's like when WB fired the frog it was way out of line yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well there you go uh Justin can you finish your
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was just saying my dog was finishing it for me.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a huge, super crazy guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a chupacabra.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I was going to say is we may just be on like it's a much it's a return to the quiet part of superhero movies.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a great run and that's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't mean we won't get them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just going to be a little bit the expectations have to change in the type of movies have to change.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's actually a good thing given what we've seen over the last four years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think just to sort of wrap this up here based on what you're saying, Justin, I think the need to take away from Supergirl is...
[SPEAKER_02]: you can't make a 175 million dollar super girl movie and be like no brainer gonna do great no matter what right a 40 million dollar clay face movie is a much better bat because it's a horror movie and you have a better chance of making that back so
[SPEAKER_02]: is probably the same thing with dynamic duo, the puppet animation thing that they're doing, where I can't imagine they're spending $175 billion.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're probably keeping that cheap as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if it comes out, it's like, that was a weird experiment that made $50 million that it's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you can keep doing that stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, do weird interesting stuff or do deep emotional stuff, but maybe don't make it part of a greater universe and make it so that like,
[SPEAKER_02]: billions of people's jobs are on the line over this one thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and we got one last question here, salsa or pico de gallo.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pete, I mean, they're both great and they're also very similar.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the other way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm the opposite.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is that so so so so?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just saying things to say things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we move on with our next section which is audience questions and for that we're going to turn it over to P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P. P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P P
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't do all these questions, it's just by myself.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, it kind of is, you're asking questions to the audience, so that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's mainly about salsa, salsa, salsa.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, yeah, this is the part we get back to you the lovely audience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The interesting salsa is cooked pica to guy who is raw cooked.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about that, but you calling him a liar?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it chef?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't win a professional chef
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess when you buy in a store, it's like cooked.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not pre-cooked.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, but like, how is it like a stew?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you heat up your salsa, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I always make like a nice hot salsa, hot salsa.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's got to be cold and chilling.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I want to boil it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Boil it like salsa.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what makes me happy to get back to what we were talking about later earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: If nobody is going to do...
[SPEAKER_01]: Someone's coming through.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody's coming through?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I can do it for $25.
[SPEAKER_02]: $25.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can do it for $20.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let's do it for charity, then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do it for charity.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a charity that I saw earlier today.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Justin and I are going to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to find the name of the charity.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, here we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, the charity we're going to do it for is called the Lou Family Fund.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's something tied to a couple of comic book artists and it's to help the fight against Colo Rectole.
[SPEAKER_02]: cancer.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll donate $25, but only if we can beat Pete's treat.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, hands.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Today's trivia is about the comic Royals and the small nod to the legend, Riff Hutton.
[SPEAKER_03]: RIP.
[SPEAKER_03]: Love John Dugie-Houser.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Question number one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who is the Eisner Award-winning writer?
[SPEAKER_03]: for the comic royals, is it a, Derek Kirkkin, b, David are even listening to me, the best restaurant would have stuff all over the walls, so you would always have something to look at or talk about, plus solid brownies on days, that's all we need, or c, David Apple B.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I want to say Applebee's because I love that chicken from Applebee's what does it make a read it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is there a but Jack Daniel's chicken?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah absolutely always.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dirk her Kim is a Dirk her Kim.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is Dirk her Kim.
[SPEAKER_03]: A is correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Question number two.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who is the amazing artist on the so far fantasy comic royals?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it a Jacob Perez?
[SPEAKER_03]: B.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, money.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you a comment than what the how about we talking about?
[SPEAKER_03]: Or is it
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I definitely have dogs, but it's just one dog.
[SPEAKER_01]: Isn't that crazy?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just one.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need one dog.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I'll go with a for Jasper is it is a because he's a real capitol a asshole Shows the Jasper all right here we go Who are the main characters in this great comic worth checking out is it a twin telepathic brothers Be you talking about gemstone telemundo no See Ruby Zeldundo
[SPEAKER_01]: Rubies Aldondo, that's your alias, Alex, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: For your erotic fiction.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and thank you so much for leaving those incredibly detailed comments.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I want to really, um, I have a poster on my wall here that I want to really walk you through and I feel like it could be helpful for years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, never be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm basically a whole 36 part series on it, so thank you for your assistance and we're going to go with A, is that correct, Pete?
[SPEAKER_03]: It is a nice day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are going to donate 25 bucks to the Lou Family Fund.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can find them at LouFamilyFund.org.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, what is the secret movie you were referencing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course we're talking about the 2018 classic Spider-Man into the Spider-Verse.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, repus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, as we all know, new comic books come out on Wednesdays and last tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what are you guys looking forward to, Pete?
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a ton of great books coming out.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I also, I'm really conformed to the book that our guests was just talking about as well as Royals Deadman number two, Batman 11 and a hundred bullets number one, U.S. of anger.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really, Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, get into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, really nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I got a shout out absolute Martian Man Hunter number 12.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you got to.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe is the final issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is all wrapping up here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's upsetting in general.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I also really been enjoying Batman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Matt Fraction's Batman.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have a new issue with that coming in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, uh, looking forward to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, hard to argue with Deadman number two from our guys, uh, from ice cream, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Maxwell Prince and Martin Rossa.
[SPEAKER_02]: Agreed with all that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really looking forward to rating black number 43.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a big cliffhanger at the end of the last issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very curious to see how they pick up on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also looking forward to weight.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just had it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, killer influences number one from IDW.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chatted with Joey Esposito.
[SPEAKER_02]: The writer a couple of months back.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think at this point,
[SPEAKER_02]: of this IDW crime book about a true crime podcaster, a serial killer, maybe teeming up a little bit, I guess we'll see.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what if secret wars number one, a former guest of the show, Alex packed and I'll wrote this, and this is about what if the ultimate universe survived the 2015 secret wars, which I'd very interested to see how that plays out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love how hyper-specific the the run of what ifs they've been doing them in the last few months they're like getting into these very That's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what what if should be when it's like too broad it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: It needs to be that level of niche.
[SPEAKER_02]: So very interested check out that all of those at many more books are going to be in our stack podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, it's a weird coincidence that this happens every week.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That is it for that trivia.
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