[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to another episode of the Street Alpha podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host Tux and we have our first and only episode in Australia this year at GTR Festival.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to do this podcast last year but I was so busy and obviously when Tux is busy as well building cars before and after I guess getting the cars back and so on.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this year I made it a priority to have Andrew make my Tux do the podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: So
[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys will know who this guy is, he is a legend in the RB platform, he's had several records, still continuing to break records, and I would say probably the king of drag and street cars in an Australia, I would say, overall.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's a legend and you guys have requested him several times on all the Australian episodes and others as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we finally have the pleasure of having him on the podcast.
[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you so much for making this happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's an honor and I'm really happy that we were able to make this work and we also have a shop tour that we did as well You guys can check out down below in the description.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was able to kind of share with us all the builds he has in the shop Not all the art 34's are here right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause we're all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: First of all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So before we begin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's give it round of applause for Matuk's
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought to get out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, thank, like I said, thank you so much, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, thank you so much for feeding us.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got like, I probably busted down like 25 wings.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for being some things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You shot it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I want to know a lot about your background and how you got into this stuff, because the only thing I was able to see when I first came across your stuff on a line or through other people hearing about the RB platform, which is Instagram videos or anything else in YouTube,
[SPEAKER_00]: But I never really knew much about your background how you even got into cars or why you started building them and why you chose the RV platform So why did you get into the RV platform?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're crossing the road then a very commoner came past which is a commoner And I never knew what I was about there and I think oh wow that sounds mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we started looking into and I looked at one of them one of them cars and fast forward
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have those at all in America.
[SPEAKER_00]: What year did those cars come out when they were leveled?
[SPEAKER_01]: Not in 87.
[SPEAKER_01]: 86.
[SPEAKER_01]: 87.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the first year.
[SPEAKER_01]: First year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So in school, you had saw that year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a nice car and that sounds good.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how we started off knowing what they were.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, more dad used to have a tie shop and the mechanic shop.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there was no school holidays because when school holidays were on, it was getting the guy coming to work with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So at the age of 10 or 12, all the changing tires and playing with cars was the head of that choice.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, fast food, we finish school, I didn't get it at the office, I had school, I kicked out you know, I know someone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I got dragged with my dad, come here, coming over with me, and that's how we started playing with cars, and then doing what I just enjoyed working on cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I ended up deciding on become a mechanic, I bought my first wheel, I think I was 16, was the 178.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was a non-turbo car, so net-turbo charger will try to make a fast net-turbo.
[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: Extractors exhaust, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's how we ended up starting with the cost of the RB, the RB plethora.
[SPEAKER_01]: So your dad was also helping, but he was in the car, so he was just changing tires and like what was the... Well, that was like more into the business side, he was changing tires and whatnot and controlling the business.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were the more hands on stuff and doing what other other labor stuff and what what had to be done.
[SPEAKER_00]: 2000 horse power back then of course was like unheard of right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what were the numbers back then of performance?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my first to have a view.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was one of our mates had an engine, a scallide and put it apart to fish in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I had 4 HP stones.
[SPEAKER_01]: and shopping rods, stock rods, shopping.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, then it wasn't easy to get rods.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I got my own wife, you guys, he gave me 300 bucks, about the second and rods, and the second and pistons, which were stock rods.
[SPEAKER_01]: Famim, I got a block and I got a machine.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can hear it again from like, I'll put them on my car, I guess, man, then I could have given that to me fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we, we, um, this is the first night I put together.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a machine, I put the bottom in together, obviously,
[SPEAKER_01]: not knowing what I was doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was 17 years old, I didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I gave it a go.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we put it together.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were still waiting for the head.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no head yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like every Christmas time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the engine was in my backyard together.
[SPEAKER_01]: The bottom end and it was not head.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I finally got the head to put on it, I went to the engine and there was Christmas vehicles in the engine because there was Christmas time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Christmas vehicles over here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you know, I ended up blowing the Christmas vehicles out put the head on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I finished the engine, put the engine in the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like then we used to use a packed performance for tuning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought they were around that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they've been around for years.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been around for years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was probably maybe, I get in, or I get in line in these old, like then.
[SPEAKER_01]: I took the car there, which unit it might 550 horsepower, which back then was pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: What year is this?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, probably?
[SPEAKER_01]: It would be 2000.
[SPEAKER_01]: To, maybe 2000, to early 2000s.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we put, I took the car there, put it on the owner, my father on the 50th of the hospital, I had a turbo-natic turbo, back then, on the street, back then, on the street, back then.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was properly, there was no, it was that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, we got together, we're now on the first meeting and the car went 10, 50s or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: which was back then was pretty fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: It got kicked out, no cage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we just, I didn't know what, that was easy, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just tried to get faster.
[SPEAKER_01]: I sent the car put her on a cage in it, parachute.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then back out, we got to took the interior out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, obviously we had an apparel.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to make everything work.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think about a second meeting or the third meeting we had gone 9.90.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, just some gutting it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just some gutting it and put the interior out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just make it a bit lighter.
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously we started making the car work.
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have back then.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have to, it's all in the sea.
[SPEAKER_01]: The most important part by dig racing now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know it's a 64 and a 330.
[SPEAKER_01]: Back then, we just didn't know shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just, we just, run it, run whatever you've got for the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, well, the end of it, we ended up going 950s at 144 mile an hour with just pistons, shop pin rods, whatever gasket was, back then, I think it was in general in this in gasket.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: and just a camshaft and springs, after that stage, I had my brother, I guess, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just go to the bigger car.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so in between this time, I just opened up a shop, which was my dad's shop.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was inside a service station.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if you got that overseas, but here it's our service station, and like a two-way workshop.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a service station is basically like just a mechanic shop for cars to come and do maintenance or a purchase station.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like didn't we fill up petrol?
[SPEAKER_01]: So the purchase station and the part of the purchase station is like a two bay workshop or two doors.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, every we have those.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can fit one car in each bay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I decided to take care of it and start doing mechanical.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all in the same in the same year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we started doing normal stuff like this, normal off the street servicing and blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when that was so old school that he told me, like, what are you playing with this stuff for?
[SPEAKER_01]: Get rid of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's now money in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a dual-ach normal service again and again, that's how you get to make a living.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking, whatever, whatever it was, I say.
[SPEAKER_01]: In between me doing a normal stuff that's coming off the road, I was building my car.
[SPEAKER_01]: My brother decided I'll just put a bigger car, so he bought another vehicle, which was a rolling show, nine inch deep for the, all the bigger stuff in the ass end of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: No, a bigger motor, which means piston and rods, and I think we use like a three-light gasket, whatever, whatever, I think it was even anything gasket back then.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were using mock a take back then, there was now, there was now a hard take.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the white hard micro tuck, it was hard to put all this old look, whatever, I think it was kind of memorable, it was anyway, we put the big a car together, and the record back then was like nine, three, which was tempi tyres.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we were competing with us in tempi.
[SPEAKER_01]: We ended up putting a bigger car together, built it, we built the engine.
[SPEAKER_01]: We went on the Don and it cracked the block.
[SPEAKER_00]: When this is an RB30 block.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is an RB30 block.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what we're talking about 20 years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we cracked the block.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not knowing what we're going to wrong you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll put it apart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, the block's straight.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are we doing now?
[SPEAKER_01]: So we didn't want another block.
[SPEAKER_01]: Grow out of the.
[SPEAKER_01]: almost full girl, just to get the card to, to work out why you had to keep it together right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it wasn't as easy as now.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just can gamble whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_00]: How did you know how did you know that that you could grab it to, we didn't?
[SPEAKER_01]: So every this is all like I started to do and develop
[SPEAKER_01]: We ended up in the beginning of the development of the RB30, so we grew out of the, I think we half grew out of the back then, put on the donor, made like 800 horsepower, which was massive, had a carrot, bush bearing G42 or G47 on the, we went out on the first night and it ended up going like 9-1 or something, which was a record, back then, and we ended up crackling back again.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, short story we came back, this is all within the one year of us, the side in the building you can't, and the side didn't take a bigger.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I still didn't have a donor, I still wasn't tuning.
[SPEAKER_01]: We then put them in general.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the engine again, and Mr. Goulkeen, who used to blow it up on Wednesday, go back up, pull up hard Thursday, back together racing Friday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: A Goulkeen.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no stopping us.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were bringing back out in six months, it wasn't so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: We blew it up in one week.
[SPEAKER_01]: The next week, it's racing again.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're just trying the Iron Day and we're looking at how we're going to get faster.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of my mates had a shop, and guests didn't let me give it a go and tuning it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, whatever man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have a crack.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: something else happened, another block or head, whatever had issues, you know, we kept the gang gang in circles with this block issue, like what are we going to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: How are we going to make this work?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, we ended up fool guarding it, tried to put slaves in it, slaves move, so you can't put a sleeve in it, if it's a weight deck, like if it's a weight block and they go out, so I didn't end it up fool guarding it, putting a sleeve in the fool go out,
[SPEAKER_01]: We got the car running again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to law with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might shop waiting waiting waiting to get done.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd hear the car and don't know and I walked in and behind me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give me half an hour, half an hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I waited another hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: Didn't it wasn't ready for me?
[SPEAKER_01]: I get in a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on waiting for this like anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went on to his internet and I googled Dono was eBay and I found a Dono for so in Melbourne.
[SPEAKER_01]: was buying out, I think, a story again back then, so I'm buying this thing about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Presbyte buying out, enter a buying out, I didn't have to use it on that idea, what I was doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I picked up my trailer, I go, I'm going, I'm going, I'm ready, I'm going, I'm going to buy it on.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do this, I can't wait for anyone to keep, I just can't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I went back to the shop on the other side of the car after trailer.
[SPEAKER_01]: um, lift the trailer up to you and I went up to Melbourne to Bala Danna.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: At this stage, um, I had no idea how I was paying for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was doing it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then I had the money.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a car I was trying to sell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then I had no idea how these are done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I rang my dumb, dumb tapio.
[SPEAKER_01]: I came in.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to Bala Danna.
[SPEAKER_01]: I came to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had no idea what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just come back to your works.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, he ended up jumping in the car I was flying with me.
[SPEAKER_01]: In between these, I'm trying to make a hammer in a pipe for it, and one of them back then was my customer, just walked in the shop.
[SPEAKER_01]: His name is George Hermes.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of my best mates now.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's seen me on the phone, I was stressing, I'm losing any guys, what's wrong with you?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get my own 30 grand for like two weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm selling my car, I'm not selling my payback, he's not full.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got my own a buy, don't I?
[SPEAKER_01]: He has no money, I think he made a thousand foot money in here, can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I never used this block, I just wanted to my shop.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's seen me on my phone losing it, and he ended up transferring me to 30 grand.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get my own 30 grand for like four weeks max, and I'll get it back to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is like in 2002, 2003, I was like nine years old.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so this black spirit, come on, just give me money to do that, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously it trusted me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure story, we've got to Melbourne, don't make me the guy who has done a work, you guys here want to put something on, I guess I don't know what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: As long as it works, I'll take any work for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't look that, you guys here looks like it's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, flew back, I'll put the trailer, I'll put the trailer on the trailer, and drive back to Sydney.
[SPEAKER_01]: short story, I'll be glad I sold my car and I did a paying back for the third again.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was only a week and a half, I ended up paying it back in.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you saw the car that you were working at the U. I had the pink car, I had the original car, I won $1.50, I ended up selling a set of neck car, I've got the money from that and I ended up paying for the dollar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had to lose something to gain, you know, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I did a lot of sell about obviously business was first then.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're trying to expand and become big and and get the next steps I was losing my cars was losing my car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever it was, it had to be done.
[SPEAKER_01]: So ended up coming back, and at the main time, the two by virtue of that, I mean, is opposite houses.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can walk to the neighbor's house, so I'm putting a dino into a service station, and right opposite me is house-eventual.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's how it's losing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even be right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, why don't you be that noisy?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I show a story with the dino in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Took me three, four days to look at how do you use the Donna one in time?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we didn't know how he's Donna Yeah, so I'm just looking at how he's Donna.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a load of what that's what I Rolled me a lot more about the screen of Donna.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a mock-a-tick in it You know and this is a funny part of book at the tune up and the kids are mock-a-tick It's so basic now looking into I'm thinking how easy it is, but obviously when you first started you first thought and yeah, everything looks like it's hard
[SPEAKER_01]: I put on a doughnut and I'm looking at this looking for whatever had to be changed, there was only two maps had to be changed, there was a Lloyd map, for few, and then we shall map.
[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously our new word, nothing went out of the room, and now on top of me, Harry is a computer, so I'm just also off to, so I'm just teaching myself step-by-step on a doughnut.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I looked at how do you use a software first?
[SPEAKER_01]: I get onto the ECU, we start with, you know, what we have to change.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we start, I start, I can do not have the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have to, I made the Sivanderl's spell.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's after a week of being on a don-o, so we get off the change or permit or we're half to be at, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we ended up getting a car half tuned up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you make, I handle the Sivanderl's spell?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't make Sivanderl's 60.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I go with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you shooting for?
[SPEAKER_00]: You just have a goal, or you just have a goal.
[SPEAKER_01]: The goal was to learn how to tune, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, oh, how am I going to do that?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do it on my own car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to use someone else's car.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I started trying to compare myself to why I was making as much power on someone else's line and they gave me a new case.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's too together to scare racer.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, we've been racer and then that I've gone on his first ever main 9-1 and it came back running not blown up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck this pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: How are we going to get faster?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I get just not just
[SPEAKER_01]: So we just had a tune, we stood on a hard junior, we were half tuning, we put a gasket on it, we put on a dyno, we were inspired by what we were doing, and we blow the hair off it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We ended up changing the hair on it, got it back together, again, we can't gas it again, this put a big a turbo on it, back then it was again, we changed a big a turbo on it, and checked his neckstow at the new injectors in it, when I put the new injectors in it, it was a whole new board game, because I didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a half a tune up it when I first started, now that began, check this in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't get it like you have to compress it, check the size and fly right and change it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a magnetic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like dot to dot, you have to follow the dot to dot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So ended up took me a couple of days to look at how to, um, had to get the car to auto, had to get the car to one of the big injectors.
[SPEAKER_01]: After I got out, it was pretty simple after I got out because I got down a heading for a week and then I got on to the toilet and I was in the toilet and I was in the toilet and I was thinking, hang on man, then check those 800s, we're just put 600s in it, which is double the size.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you get to each number and half the age, hey, half the number, it should this run.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I came back with my calculator, I'm going to each, so when I'm changing the number to dividing it into, yeah, and move inside the car and the car runs and go, well, that worked.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's how we ended up getting the car run and again, not does the one helping me, I'm hoping myself and we've got the car tuned, my 120 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're now on the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out and the win-out was the first car run.
[SPEAKER_01]: in Sydney, 800 horsepower back in the early 2000s.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I 100 horsepower in 2003 or four.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's good up running it, which was with the first one, to run it in the stride.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And ever since then, we've just been learning more and more and then obviously the more you learn easier it gets.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the more power you make, the more shit you're breaking, and the more stuff you break, the more you get it, look at how to unbreak it, you know, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we went for 15 years of running diesel blocks.
[SPEAKER_01]: They worked out there was a diesel block that was stronger.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then RB30 block, which is RD28 block.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a hands one of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: We put that together.
[SPEAKER_01]: That worked for a bit, then that's how to break it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at the 800 or more than that.
[SPEAKER_01]: More than that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, with the first one, I had a thousand ones per hour, five in each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was single came still, still wasn't drinking.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was two, there's the Abbey 30 engine complete engine.
[SPEAKER_00]: But nobody was doing 26 at the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Convertions?
[SPEAKER_00]: There was.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a ton of regalia was doing 26 conversions.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was, um, yeah, they've been run for.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: probably 10 years before me.
[SPEAKER_01]: So everyone was doing their thing, but no one was doing it in commonels, you know, it was always the real commonels.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't done it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't start with GDRs to probably 10 years later.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of my nights come to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we were doing videos.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were dominating the videos saying the commonels saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did a button in the new car, the record was 790, we went 7th on the first pass or first meeting.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we took out the record in the first meeting of the Commodore's, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'm thinking, that was too easy, let's go fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we started out in 720 and 719.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all within probably 5 or 6 years of racing in the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're talking in 2010 maybe, yeah, 2012.
[SPEAKER_01]: During that time, one of my mates Muhammad Khan had a JDR.
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, I wonder who can a JDR, I'm thinking,
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the journey, Armour?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to be all going to
[SPEAKER_01]: We put the engine out of it, we built the engine in it, it's like the same as the RB30, except the different head, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So back then, there was always a much option to buy a beast to buy a link for error valves and springs.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no, there was no, there wasn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't able to help the company to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we bought that car, we put a hot ticket in that car.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was one of the first cars that put a hot ticket in that animal view, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we ended up going on Twinkham in La Ville.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we ended up going on Twinkham in La Ville.
[SPEAKER_01]: After we built the new car, we went on Twinkham in 26.
[SPEAKER_01]: 30 was in a 3.1 year.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: To win the 6.30.
[SPEAKER_01]: And both cars at Haltex and in one car was a menu with Hitch Pattern.
[SPEAKER_01]: We started developing his car.
[SPEAKER_01]: We made it on an IID as a Hitch Pattern.
[SPEAKER_01]: We launched first meeting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone had a heart attack.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, including us, you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was fast back then.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then after we done his car one and my other mates decided that was that look man let's let's build a street car because he's more of a like a dragiest corner car in the interior In then I'm buying a a 32 Gd, which was a strain delivered Which which came out in Australia, so it's okay, so it's all right to more rather than import 32 Gd So they actually came in in Australia, right so I bought one one one Once again, I buy it off here he bought off me and he gets just let's build a this build a mad Stree car to our nights and figure more on down in before but let's give it a go yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: We ended up putting a stool castles and they built a stool cast block, 3.2 liter castles.
[SPEAKER_01]: Neera, this came out with the shaker kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we really wanted it very first.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were the first to learn why Juno did so normal.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had to come out with the 3.2.
[SPEAKER_01]: We ended up buying a 3.2 kit, a normal RB30 block.
[SPEAKER_01]: Aftershof came, after everything was off the shelf.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, started slowly getting off the shelf, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: How take?
[SPEAKER_01]: We were the first guys to put a 12 by 400.
[SPEAKER_01]: behind an RB4 drive, so ours race clouds and us work together and we can convert it a turbo 500 which is made for a real drive car into a full drive system.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we ended up putting that into the JDR.
[SPEAKER_01]: which was pretty cool because I had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had a had
[SPEAKER_01]: My clone lines are something stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the first part of my guys' war.
[SPEAKER_01]: What gearbox in that was in three years.
[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as that happened, everyone started again, automatic and working out.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was an easier way than trying to have a H-pad in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Trying to keep a gearbox together, you'd just buy a turbo-find to put it together and you've got a fast car.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, basically, you were known for VLs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the VLs were so sad.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, everybody in Australia knew you were the guy for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, anything that was common was that was us, obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: You said 2010 when you started to, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it 2010 when you got the...
[SPEAKER_01]: It would have been 2010, maybe 2010.
[SPEAKER_01]: Roughly, that's when we started playing with the JDRs and the World Drop stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, now, who were you looking up to?
[SPEAKER_00]: as far as inspiration for the bills you were doing, whether it was a VL or a GTR prior to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because, you know, people get inspiration or you see somebody doing something.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you said, Corridon was around for a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: Were you looking at what they were doing at the time?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a kind of get inspiration for some of the stuff you do.
[SPEAKER_01]: At the time, when we were on the, when we was at the Commodore stage, it was, it was all open.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Commodore's will, King, King, the Commodore's will in open.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because, Bashani, there was Roger pricing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were around for years, years and none.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you hear the word Commodore Abbey 30 was always nobun, it was never a Sydney.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they say, oh, the Sydney Ville stink.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I know ours, but I'm not sure what's going to stink.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I fast forward on three years later, we walked out the hall of nobun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Said nobun was doing, was there been close to what we were doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they're still not going to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they started, they started off the wheels and we finished the wheels.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was pretty simple, so they used to look down on us and you guys kind of had a boot cars and I rented a boot in cars and then I've gone faster and then I'm...
[SPEAKER_01]: on the top spot.
[SPEAKER_00]: With the GTRs, was there the same mentality in terms of your approach in terms of trying to take over and kind of be the fastest.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or?
[SPEAKER_01]: When it was GDRs, I think back then, I was on the 8th treatment, Rismagrega.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was one of the top top dogs in the GDRs, I think it was running 720 to 720 to 720s, which was ridiculously fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: When we started building Stray King, which was the first proper Stray Cow review, Stray King.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, it was probably Doha.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doha had Julian Julian's cow was probably the first one.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a full drive automatic.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did that cow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I ate it on a radio.
[SPEAKER_01]: which was cool, but it wasn't recognised yet for some reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I bought the next one, which on I put plates on a streaking, I think the plates was what bring the attention to the car hang on, why is this car streaking, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: So we bought the car, we put plates on a streaking, it went out and when it ate on its first ever pass, ate seven years, no cage, don't shoot, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It then went to law racing and dominoid row racing for like seven or ten times in a row.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we won raw racing every month for like 10 or 12 in a row.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got, we got a ticket of going because nothing was ever in close.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's when people worked at Hang On to be fast in the area.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything's been fucking crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys were doing raw racing back then, too?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That poll would be in 2000 and it wasn't that like, it poll would be in 2015, 2007.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it poll is seven and I really know is when we started the proper raw racing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And as soon as that car came out and did what it did, it won't realize that, well, that's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: was the next step, commoners were good to do burnouts, wasn't good to get a fast, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: So everyone had commoner side of switching to JDRs, everything had any car side switching to JDRs.
[SPEAKER_01]: We started building JDRs and making the same crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: We then started racing, Naira, but Naira, but a JDR and gets all on around sevens.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we haven't done that yet, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we give it a go, it can't be that hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: At that stage, it was Naira Naira, and Robert Marjan, which Robert Marjan was here at the, there was June, I think it was June one, or June two, whatever it was, and it was King 32.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those two guys, I probably the guys that made the way for where we are today.
[SPEAKER_01]: The amount of R&D, the amount of time, the amount of, that's when we started using Bill of Blocks, had this come out, and that, it has a lot of money, and if you can make it, you've got no idea what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just buy it, who cares, what's case you blow it up?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we bought a block, they bought Blocks, all of them were terrible for hundreds, we had to start, give them still, we had to quite if they've seen them still.
[SPEAKER_01]: We started racing, we went out when eight, 20s, 80s,
[SPEAKER_01]: And then June when 790 before us, or vice versa, and then from 790, hang on, we want around six years now, or relax, man, like we just started running 790, then we started breaking Deeps.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's when we opted, we started making an orange conversion for them, there was nothing of the show for the Kimbainer.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can just buy an orange D if you can buy everything, there was nothing of the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we went.
[SPEAKER_01]: For that, I feel like three or four years or five years, that I'll take the record one week, a month later, we'll take the record back off from.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we went for that for about years.
[SPEAKER_01]: We used to have cakes and drums and we used to send them cakes and send those dancers.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was actually the fun time of the R&D, when we...
[SPEAKER_01]: And that made the way to where we are today.
[SPEAKER_01]: That we can put a color behind us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know what we're going to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: We do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We give the guy the key.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guess that runs in 15th and the first pass.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, with the out those two guys, are we going to obviously not be in nowhere near where we're just today?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, now this is all with the three two?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was all three two.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so with the R&D, because obviously the R&D was obviously still like a thing that they were continuing to do, but the three two, the three two get that they started with was the same one that continued throughout the journey.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the three two key was normal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, only, maybe four of us, it's just like that it's sort of to make the wide jump and keep it in the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I saw that I'm making aluminum rods.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, because it wasn't aluminum rods back then, we've turned it on stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then eventually it becomes 3.4, but it becomes 3.4.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then Kelly's come out with a 3.6.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a 3.6.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kelly's make a 3.6.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like new though, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably a couple of years old now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would say a couple of years old.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, six, damn, I didn't have three six.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think 94 and a half more strike crank, non-non-imew.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, so why do you, I seems like three two is the more popular combination.
[SPEAKER_00]: So why do people usually go for that over like, you know, three, four, three, six?
[SPEAKER_01]: We'd be using the 32 for years.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've changed from normal Juno to Wajun, which is back in that different.
[SPEAKER_01]: We revved English to 10,500, 11,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: The 32 goes there.
[SPEAKER_01]: No problems.
[SPEAKER_01]: You pull out a part of them, explain you.
[SPEAKER_01]: The 34, we just started using it now, because I hate me the guy behind me, the car behind me, the man behind me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because everyone was, once he got bigger, bigger, bigger.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, this is the first one down 33, 34, that I like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Polly wasn't the best, it doesn't revlock a 32, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Polly gets $0.5,000, and gets $0.5,000, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the first three four out of the shop.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, that's the first one we did out of the shop three four.
[SPEAKER_01]: So everything else has been 32, 32, 32.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, do I like it?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I'm on the fence.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you're mostly on the fence about what exactly?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're every.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, at one and a half thousand, it's all over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, because no one, I'm time to go home and sleep.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I'd do you every ten and a half thousand and almost to keep going.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I like, I love ribbon engines.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably, I'll be living.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll let's probably save it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Save it's laughed on anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I do again, probably, because everyone's going to want a three four because they don't want to be got three four.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's better, better, better, better.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why it's better, but it's three four, one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is going to be the marketing company for that, for the three four pretty much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we've already got an engine, probably not a five more three fours built already, right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because as soon as it comes out, everyone's, what's new?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one cares what works.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I won, what's new?
[SPEAKER_01]: So because it's new, let's buy it, guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we've done now, because
[SPEAKER_01]: Boot four or five I'm ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so they're stuck with them for like, or not, so they're not an half thousand and it is not that it's not that it's any slower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but can we get fast or moving a bit harder and getting it up public hand, but so three.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody does three else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nah, there's one guy that would be 2.6 there, which is J.M.A.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, why do I see Tom Building that?
[SPEAKER_01]: But he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he went 7-on, you know, J.D.A.
[SPEAKER_01]: festival, so it's the first, yeah, yeah, 2.6, right there on 7-on, which is pretty impressive, what I was talking about doing it, no, if you got smart, what I bought one is, but you know, like, what would you actually turn, like, it's pushing shit up you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what would you want to make it a lot of harder?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the main 3.2 later,
[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't have any 26 bills in your shop.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't really build any 26 at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, full 26 bottom end and sell the head.
[SPEAKER_01]: We do, we do hapes of little, but not everyone wants 2,000 hosts per.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't want to spend 200 yen on the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we do have the car that comes in as a, we do hapes of a, like, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good
[SPEAKER_01]: More of them than the big groups to be honest in our main.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're probably about 10 or 12 cars a year of that caliber, but the small cars, that's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, it's a lot, but the smaller cars, one is better for us because it's in another shop faster.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The machine shop doesn't have a heart attack when you have to just blow a hand and deck instead of making a shimdus and just porting and saying saying it's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the smaller boots do happen, we just start, we just start bragging about them, obviously because it is what it is, but if you're going to buy a card, I'm going to make two
[SPEAKER_01]: to make it have a hundred horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we wouldn't use RN Pusha 2.6L at a block won the five hundred for the kilos.
[SPEAKER_01]: They crack on the outside of the block.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are the number of the conversions?
[SPEAKER_00]: What are the seven hundred, maybe?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or seven hundred horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Seven, seven, twenty horsepower is where I push a 2.6L at a block because of the cows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because of the cows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if it's a half-filled or... That's a matter of a top-filled, a half-filled, good or not, good or not, good or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to make a difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to crack along the outside of the block with all the fades and all on the other side.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put a car and have someone come back on my block, so the first thing I do I tell them, you want 500 kilowatts, you can do 2.6 set of block if not, okay in one block.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing in the frame.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what about a 30 by the way, though?
[SPEAKER_00]: Just 30?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still, we build a free at a block with a free at a crank.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's two good for 12 animals per as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the states, they do like a stock 30 cranks.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they make 1,000 to 12 hundred worth of time.
[SPEAKER_01]: We still do stock, like if someone comes here for 12 hundred horse per, we'll do an arbitrary block, arbitrary crank, pistons rods, firing, bigger main studs, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No good, because it didn't get any good.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason we use a good tool is to convert a farm real well-draft the forward drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we don't use it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I make the block stronger because if you're being a suffocative client here, so if it doesn't There is there is that look I got cars that like in one block that make it ever hand the host power Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no good ones because it comes in a factory girl.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're gonna put build a caps on them.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't we don't put a a brace There's no need for it for real a drive for even a for even if you put a JDR for we'll drive in one block I've never put or anyone like you say yeah, I'm on block.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never ever used
[SPEAKER_01]: a guru to put it in a full drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: A thirdly block we use a guru to adapt the form of a real drive block to a full drive block.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That has to be done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We still use the factory.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be thirdly guru.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't put bit the caps on them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you guys do build a caps on some of the bills too, right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that usually builds a caps.
[SPEAKER_01]: I use factory girders and adapt the plates, which adapt the the the the river dropped to the floor, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So like our king, that makes 7 to 100 fuel spare, it runs a diesel block, our factory, our factory diesel, um, 3028.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: The factory, the factory girder, and we've got a brace that braces from that converts
[SPEAKER_01]: real draft the full draft.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't even put build a kept on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that makes 800 or so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it's 12 speed.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we don't actually put build a kept on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't need to work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what builds need or what builds you require to have like build.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to get more and not get on the block, you're going to get a lot of time gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: True.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's other.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll use it to cap out of 500 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: 500 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to put a cart on like 500 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you a 30 block.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you a girl with a depth of some real draft of the full drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll firing at main studs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shimless head.
[SPEAKER_01]: No draw sound.
[SPEAKER_01]: You ready to go?
[SPEAKER_00]: As soon as you got over there, no draw sound.
[SPEAKER_00]: At 1500.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you're going to go circuit racing and hold the thing flat for 10 minutes, you draw that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to drive on a street and go racing car, call them all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because then when you say drive it on the street out here, like I wouldn't want to drive a 2,000 horsepower car on on these streets over here unless you guys those places, I don't really know, but you guys say street car with this stuff and driving on the street does that mean like you're driving it long distances, you're going to car shows 30 minutes away, driving it back, or is that just like you can drive it on the street if you want to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the God behind me lives in London there or something like I'm talking like an L.O.A.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so he would drive it from his house to my shop.
[SPEAKER_01]: For what reason, I don't know, to say hi, I prefer to drive my highlights, but some people prefer to drive cars on this, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the old I get, the less I want to drive some more on this, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, people like his young, he's got a new car, he'll drive, he'll drive, he'll drive, he'll drive a bit up and up his wife, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a video I can pick it up and up his wife.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, they came with driven, they built a blocks and not an issue on the street.
[SPEAKER_01]: They run cooler than a cars block,
[SPEAKER_01]: They have any oil in problems, in oil pressure problems.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've proven it, trauma and trauma again.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been doing it for the bill on the strip of the eight years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've never had an issue saying that it's having issues because it's driving on the street.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The bill at block can be driven anywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's of having automatic behind the car, a bit harder on the engine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Meaning that there's more load on the engine because it's a converter.
[SPEAKER_01]: But...
[SPEAKER_01]: which means you still could drive anywhere you want, but you can't get on the freeway and putting in third gear because only three gears and drive at 120 kz at four and a half thousand RPM and drive for three hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because you're an idiot then, you know, I mean, but the key on the freeway of driving for 10 minutes, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're having a sequential, yeah, so eventually you've got six gears, you can do it every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the difference between not being a block of order and the menu.
[SPEAKER_00]: is it still drivable, like drivability-wise?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you wanted to drive on the street, or because it's a massive turbo, like are you just driving it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or are you actually doing a hit on the street with it as well?
[SPEAKER_00]: This car will harm me, believe it or not, we'll come on full boost at five and a half thousand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Five and a half thousand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: Having a big turbo, I have to do it right combo is a different situation.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you've got the right cam shafts, the right turbo size for the engine, being a 3.4 liter, because it's bigger than inonement.
[SPEAKER_01]: It comes on boost at five and a half hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably on full boost, which is 60 pounds of boost, 60,000 RPM.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, you can drive and give it to anybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you mad enough to pull through your gaze?
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you want to, if you want to show that your life's been, probably I'll give it to you in five years if you're about you, wouldn't you wouldn't be doing that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what is this card make on waste gate?
[SPEAKER_00]: Unless you probably be driving it on a waste gate on the street, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, I too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they can, they got three different settings.
[SPEAKER_01]: He can, he can pull, waste gate, he can pull.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: He can pick whatever you want, so he can pick 20 pound and 30 pound, 60 pounds, whatever you want, stand out of the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's in control of whatever he does, on what he can control of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just tuned in and he can do whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he was going to make you feel more stable on 60 pounds, he can do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it's a good thing to do, probably not.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he can, he can, he can't medge with the enemy and everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be an issue of what's ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, no, but it's like from that it's just that people people say that and I don't know if it's an American thing, but you know, the street car thing is kind of controversial.
[SPEAKER_00]: But until you come here and you see like I've said to you before until you see this car, it's like, well, it is full interior.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually like there's nothing that's gutted on this car.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a full street car.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like conditioning as you say.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's got air conditioner.
[SPEAKER_01]: Electric power.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although that's everything you need to be a striker, if not more, you know what you drive on the street, he does, or I'll drive, no, but can you drive it two hours a while, you can and why I'm being issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Engine won't have any issues driving in a way you want to drive, but you have to warm it up before you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you won't be in the car, so if you get into your harlocks or you know more of a day, do you start and jump on it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if it's like, you guys have curl, it's here, is that it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so if you're getting your curl, but you're slightly cold in the morning, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then, then
[SPEAKER_01]: I make sense, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't kind of start this car behind me, which he didn't anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: The owner started that last week, I was losing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was on the Aussie doing something.
[SPEAKER_01]: He started this car from, it's all about the owner room.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Reverse is a real.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I hear him give it a hit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And because I'm finished shooting it, I'm going to set up the broom in his, the set protection on old temperature in our mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he just goes, I have to take it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's nice for a drive in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets back and I get to him, I, what's old temper?
[SPEAKER_01]: which is too cold.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's southeast, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: The head given that he would have been 20 or 25, temperature.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was freezing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And didn't think about letting a car warm up.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you go back and I lost my share of him, they can give this to everybody and say, if they're degrees.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Usually, I set up protection set up, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, type of oil RPM.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't remember the past 4,000 RPM.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And do it at 60 degrees, that's at 60 degrees, do whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it get, does it take a long way to get hot now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it, does it get hot at easy or not?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it don't matter that it's a bill of block.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same circumstance for any engine.
[SPEAKER_01]: I cast engine or if I ever bought an engine for a car, I cast matter, I make it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hand horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't mean you can jump in and give it a hit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've afforded degrees.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're near it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you still have to write the 60 degrees before you do anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it doesn't make it the first one.
[SPEAKER_01]: What could he do?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same concept for any engine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Corolla, Vio, Julia, doesn't matter where it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't matter what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's common sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need the only car up.
[SPEAKER_01]: before you start thrashing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, makes a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I've spoken about, I've spoken about, since you're on the topic of oil temperature and so on, there's been several different setups people do for oil, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mentioned to you earlier about the external, which that's on I mentioned on their podcast too.
[SPEAKER_00]: the external pumps, all at pumps, and also dry some.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dry some is an option that you would probably have if you are making over 1,500 horsepower or shooting for something like this for 2,000 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you don't have that, you have other options.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you mentioned to me that you don't even run external oil pumps.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, if you get a one next to an oil pump, you're more of a draw something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're wasting your time.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to like 300 horsepower, 400 horsepower, we use a net oil pump.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've tested, never broke him on, never been issued, automatic manual, that make a difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I had signed driver, yes, plan drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've run both.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I've seen one pump break out of probably 150.
[SPEAKER_01]: I bought.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. Again, any reason a break was on a stock 30 crank.
[SPEAKER_01]: Had a stock 30 crankcase flex, because it's not billet.
[SPEAKER_01]: To define their crank moves.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why it snapped and broke the pump.
[SPEAKER_01]: No time I've seen the break was when it was on a factory cast 30 crank in order to be in.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to have basically time doing an external pump, he might have dropped something.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no, why would you waste it on doing?
[SPEAKER_01]: You still got to make two lines up.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're feeding the returns.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got three lines after the other draw some.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, why would you, well, would you bother, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess for it, because that dry stuff is expensive.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like $10,000, probably a little bit more than that for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm sure that that's options probably half.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming maybe half the price for it for the pump.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then obviously all the labor needed to put it together.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but it's an option if you wanted to make sure that, you know, you're not like, you can rep your car if you want to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Would I have any worry about oil, starvation or anything like that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to rev your car and to 10,000 or 10,000 or 10,000,000,000,000,000, yeah, and you, and you go to an external pump right, as long as you have the right
[SPEAKER_01]: There is no reason why you can't do the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've done a million times.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have obviously, like a surged sum, which we make a baffled sum, and obviously, bigger, eight and a half or ten or nine litres.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we also have a catch can, which plums back to the sum.
[SPEAKER_01]: In all the arbitrary choices throughout out, it catches it and fries it back into the, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you always circulate, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing we do is make the customer service a more.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're going to service a service every 2,000 cases, every 5,000 cases, because the fuel or whatever that's left in the oil.
[SPEAKER_01]: But by saying that, even if you put an external pump, you're doing the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you put an external pump and you're making 120 PSR pressure, it's still going to try and move all out of the rock covers into the catchcat.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you don't do that, you're going to have the same machine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You understand?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you put a draw some.
[SPEAKER_01]: Save that because it sucks all out of the sump and whatnot, but any which way you put external pump or I, you know all pump it's going to do the same job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So any which way you need to do the same thing or else you can have the same problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to be emptying the sump of all you and still having an issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Spinning burn is a breaking engine.
[SPEAKER_00]: So one of the things that was really controversial, which is still is in America, and you guys are, you guys have been doing this for years with this platform, but the head drain situation.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've asked about it before, and there's people on the states that don't burn it, and the lot of people do burn it, but do you actually need that?
[SPEAKER_01]: We do all on every engine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, doesn't matter what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cost 200 bucks, or 250 bucks to buy it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just an extra safety.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because whatever oil is stuck in the head, especially if accelerating, it goes back to the engine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going straight to the straight to the oil drain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The head drain, the other means.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's safer.
[SPEAKER_01]: It also, the crank crates pressure, because you've got a house going to the sun and hopes that too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when we used to run no draw something, we used to actually have extra feelings on the rock covers, especially on the arbitrary sea of cams, and we used to run them to the sun.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're all really, the crank answer, so that's what we learned 25 years ago and that's what it would still do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, okay, so that used to everything we did hoped, so we had to change our ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know it works, does it do anything now?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but yeah, it's going to be better than having nothing going there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we do it on every engine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't matter if I make 500 kilowatt or 2,000 long spare, we always have an external or I had trained, you see it on hate me on the side of the block, hold the feeding thing as back to the side.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, which I just saw.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, what did you guys start to actually start implementing options for, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: plumbing the lines back to the sun like what issues were you having that made you want to have a wait around the the lines when I built my home at Khan's come the foot the JDR we had a catch getting a bit because we used it was more of a track I wasn't a bit calm so we'd have a run and come back and there'd be six layers of oil and a bit
[SPEAKER_01]: So luckily it was till later some.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I could come back and because it wasn't right some, it was just a wet some.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it would have eight layers or six layers of oil in the boot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So with this end here and putting your own engine together, again, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I bought the street car with the street king.
[SPEAKER_01]: to come and strive for an astray.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't have any high blow pull over and empty a boot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess what's going to happen?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is trying to back the catch can to the sun.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to happen?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to serve us more often?
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll serve it every time we get, we'll take it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So then we, we, we baffled the rock covers.
[SPEAKER_01]: We plumb, we plumbed the catch can back, we made a bigger catch can.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we put a surge tank on the catch can and plumb that back to the, to the sun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We went for a drive, for a couple of hits.
[SPEAKER_01]: We went and raised the car come back and it was not all anywhere to be seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Check deep sick, deep sick, it was still clean and catch can was entered because it had some where to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I still remember to, today when I come back and run eights and we were up on the bonnet and it was not all in a way and there was no oil, it was like, well, we finally got a good setup.
[SPEAKER_01]: We couldn't be gone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And with this, that was the first one I did, we bought.
[SPEAKER_01]: Before, for six other ones, we started at the same set, but then it was same turbo, back then it was 7.685.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, um, car's block.
[SPEAKER_01]: three particular crank, one-ever heads, hop between a manifold and a weight sum, and we built four or five cars, which all went eight, four days, eight, four days, eight, four days, eight, four days.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every car did exactly what we were asked for, to do, you know, and it was all heartaches and turbo-forans.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So with this, as soon as you got the first one right, you could chip a car and make it, and make it, and make it the same, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then neither came along, and you want to run sevens.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're, now we're going to draw some part.
[SPEAKER_01]: And here's where we had to draw something real, but we didn't have to draw something real.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we had to make a bracket, we had to pump it, there was nothing of the shift to the wire, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But no, you can just wrap a wire, draw some key, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: So we made a bracket, we had to draw something like that, and then after we worked out, I had to draw something, we were expecting a time with a wet some.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we put a borderline saying, if you're on 400 watts per another,
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what you're going to get, 400-500 over, it's a draw some, nothing in between.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no arguments.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't afford it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you, when you get forward to come back, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the only way we can run the shop and have a headache.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can come to me like a budgy car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to give you the keys and I'm not going to come again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you want to get racing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go about racing.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I've got to head out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got a problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to pressure all more ooze low.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's only way I work there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can run my shop.
[SPEAKER_01]: Has to free.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worried about something happy to you, you know, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where we draw the line.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just much power.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the States, the oil thing is like a big thing with the armies.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: don't really understand this platform, and they think they can build it the same way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not throwing each shot anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: Two-jays, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if they can build it in the same way as a two-jays.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you've had experience with two-jays at all, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I unfortunately, the fastest climb on shop as we speak today is a two-jays.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a two-jays, it's a two-jays.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do two-jays, well, I never meant many two-jays.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Mike came to me and played on the NAD Hope, but one that can help me with my car.
[SPEAKER_01]: His name is Offie, if he's got a problem with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So being a sucker to the IM in this moment, I'll do whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we built a motor for it, we put a heartache in it, we tuned it and we've been, maybe the first six months, or was going running five, five, 70, yeah, at 256 mile an hour, with a converter, geez, okay, on the clutch.
[SPEAKER_01]: So unfortunately, as I do have experience with two jays.
[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, and as far as this guy in my shop, as we speak,
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a two-day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, what are the biggest differences between it too when you're building them?
[SPEAKER_00]: What are some things that you should look out for with an RBE over at 2J?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you think that it's something that in America, obviously we're not in America, but why do you think there's been so much success, aside from the amount of people that have them in America with the 2Js?
[SPEAKER_01]: So two jays have been around for many, many years.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the R&D that's gone on on two jays has been around for many, many years.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're getting there because now the RB30, you can mess, bring up bullet and boy, a block.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can bring up bullet and boy, stroke your kit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can bring up near and brush your kit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can just tell how much power you want to make.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also you're all the parts you need to make that power.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course you have the right tuner, but you can have all the parts that you need to buy to make 2011 or 2011 or 2011 or 2011 after the shop now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: The two days I've been knowing that for 15 or 20 years, yeah, I would say 15 years at least, yeah, I've been running five.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's been years, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The two days platform is, I call it idiot proof, because it's been run for that long day.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I built my mate in, you know, I bring, give me a call this crank, give me what's the distance for it?
[SPEAKER_01]: And the block, even though I haven't given a block, a cast block is better, everyone fives in the cast block.
[SPEAKER_01]: The block has better galleries, better feeding, or we'll feed better return, that I'm blah blah like an Abbey.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the trigger came out factory on a two-jay, which we just about copied for Abbey, and all pumps are better, everything is better.
[SPEAKER_01]: So in general, if you buy out of a box two giant out of a box I'll be, you can't compare, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give one as a, I'm going to write you to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: A two-jowel, like a 1000-horsepower, Mitch used to make a 100-horsepower in a stock market.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stock, when I open a model, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So a two-jay is a better model from the box.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fast forward to 2026, the A-B is about to take over the three-jay.
[SPEAKER_01]: If it's local or not, we're coming for the two-jays.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's two or three or four shops, including myself, and we've got four primates of our own, that we ain't gonna stop and tell we beat the two days.
[SPEAKER_01]: It might take a month, a year, two years, four years, 10 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I gave them to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the time we are finished, the two days are gonna be number two.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've ever owned the two days, gonna end up buying an RV, cause they're gonna have no choice.
[SPEAKER_01]: We make more power.
[SPEAKER_01]: I tune both cars, I tune the 2J and RB, 2J that runs 570 at 256mol, makes 300hp less than the dawn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that runs five, seven year, yeah, that hasn't had a full pass here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So take any of which way you like.
[SPEAKER_01]: On my dyno, on the same boost, there's 300, what's the difference?
[SPEAKER_01]: Out of 100 pounds of boost.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's identical setups, what's different about the setups?
[SPEAKER_01]: One's 2J, one has 110 motorbae, one's an RB, one has 110 motorbae.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you compare engine with the same turbo size, the RB puts it all over the 3J.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's on RB1, 3.2, 3.2.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're both, they're both, they're both, actually no, 2.0, next to itself, I don't get 100.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a 10,800, or limit 1,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've read more on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We make more riffs, but also more power.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe 1,000 are a pin more that we make is why it makes extra two or three hundred horsepower.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, what I'm saying there, I know that when we actually
[SPEAKER_01]: and all the stars and everything aligns, two days I did, it's very simple.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a bad off time, it's only when it's gonna happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so I guarantee whenever you're ready, you can come back and talk to me after we do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking that, we're taking two days up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you playing to have this happen in the miracle or here?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're born and born, but he might not in America.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I'm just saying, are you planning a party and doing it?
[SPEAKER_01]: We are Australian, mate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything we do, everything we build, everything we tune is here.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the most important part.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if we can't do it, I don't want to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The understand that, like we pride with what we do.
[SPEAKER_01]: This comments say in 50s, it's saying as dancing, you know, like,
[SPEAKER_01]: One was the first pass to it, it took out, everyone bought one car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like having that joy on the style line, you cannot buy that mate.
[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot buy anything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We do what we do because we love what we do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for us to be number one, we're going to do it in Australia.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: When we do it in Australia, main other shops, we're going to come and race you guys in America.
[SPEAKER_01]: But until we have done and tried and done 25-60 passes or 550 passes in the row.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we know we're ready to race.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not coming away.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we're coming to America, we're coming to lose.
[SPEAKER_01]: So unless we have tested 12 and back to back passes, and we know we're ready to race, we know you're not going to say us that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Until we're ready, you're not going to come in.
[SPEAKER_00]: But which car would you bring there?
[SPEAKER_01]: from Australia, the dawn, the one that I rolled.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's almost finished.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've just put the light as a body on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've just changed the whole car up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Used to be 2400, 80 pounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we want to be 2300 pounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: That car's never been to the finish line around 200, if you don't know, only, but it's gone 577.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then it commenced to half track our fastest fuck, it's gone 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400, 2400,
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to, well, that was the first car to run a five-in-a-strayer with the RB platform.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did it on the second full pass.
[SPEAKER_01]: The first full pass we broke the beam.
[SPEAKER_01]: I pulled five years, because it wasn't parachute, it was still putting lever, never driven enough to hand drive, never driven a primord, it went out on a six-three, I just stopped before the gravel, I didn't turn, I just stopped before the gravel and I figured, yeah, that's it, I had to be a half-second pass, yeah, I come back and I tell me I've this one, six-three, it means six-three, for that fall I got in fourels man, anyway,
[SPEAKER_01]: Going back to return, I'm thinking almost of maybe it is going to be harder on a 5.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we had gone 6-3 in the JDR, and 6-4 in the JDR, and I'm thinking a JDR is this much.
[SPEAKER_01]: You put in a promo, it has to be a 5 second car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've taken off a boot 5, give them 100 percent, 100 percent, it's on 100 pounds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got to run a 5 second pass.
[SPEAKER_01]: With a 6-3, I get back, and I'm talking almost of thinking man, maybe it is going to be harder on a 5.
[SPEAKER_01]: When we get back, I'm not saying that estimate that, the 6-4 was slower than the menu car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I went on a mall as a five-second passmate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I didn't know what we broke the beam.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean I got we broke the beam?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought screaming up for the shazzy guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you going?
[SPEAKER_01]: Come here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We get there and measure the fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fun was too low.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just put weights on the fun of the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we put the weight on the fun of the car, we forgot to lift the car up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: We put the weight on the fun of the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: We lifted the fun of the car up the next day.
[SPEAKER_01]: First pass went 585.
[SPEAKER_01]: Off the photo at 2402 mile an hour.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the same thing we fixed the high polymers on it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: We would have gone 5th on the 1st pass, but second pass when the 5.85.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's stick shift, like Stoom, yeah, pulling gears and a paramount.
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't say I have a steering wheel, I couldn't say I have the bonnet.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm using the side of the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the work I'm going to do, I am to get that finish line.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's Fittery talking about that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, now they cut the one up so they can say yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that was the card the down was the card that you crashed It was a card.
[SPEAKER_00]: I crushed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's the blessing that you're okay You crash the car and you still went out and race after that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was always told right if you fall off a bike If you're thinking back on the bike was gonna get it get to get back on the bike.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so when I crashed the car I've never had accident.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been racing the 20 years of 22 years of 25 years of never had accident.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty calculated
[SPEAKER_01]: I love fresh in the car, but I know when I talk, when the car sends up on the fire, when to come off the floor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the dawn, there was no, there was no time to think.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had poor top gear, I had my hand on the parachute, and it blew the enocola box.
[SPEAKER_01]: When the enocola box blew, it blew, it blew on the rear, right hand to the air, and turned me straight into the wall, because it left the highest of the hook.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But right to the right, it turns straight into the straight into the wall.
[SPEAKER_01]: So luckily, it didn't borrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's rolled whenever once, and ended up just before the gravel stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get out of the car was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I got out of the car, I was still freaking out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I figured, what just happened?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've happened so fast, probably, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It happened so fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't even think about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there was no time to even...
[SPEAKER_01]: I went for the shoe, and I missed the shoe, because it was fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: I pulled the shoe, and I didn't get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I missed the shoe when the car went inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I got out of the car, and I was okay,
[SPEAKER_01]: I was walking around and I was thinking, what the hell does happen to me, what does happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen to me, what does it happen
[SPEAKER_01]: When I started walking back, everyone was going, oh, the better you could check, I got my own phone, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm fine, I don't want to get checked, leave me alone, I need to go back, I just started walking back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to get in the car, I wanted to walk back, I 100 meters down to the start line and took them myself, thinking what this happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when I get back to the start line, I got my vehicle ready, what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I got, I'm getting in the vehicle, get my car ready, and when I got race, I never saw something hard to take, you know, I'm not normal, I need to go back in the car now.
[SPEAKER_01]: At this stage, I had to start having a spastic, like he can't get in, he can't get in, I can't get in.
[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of get in?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What rules is I can't get back in the car?
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my home, there was not a scratch on my home, he's my home, and he has to get tested.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just got tested, so that put me in the baguette driving back to the finish line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got me in the ambulance, and I saw a testing my eye, I checked my eye closed your eye, and I found it as whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I go and find me.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're saying it's stand up, or one foot again, and I can't stand up, or one foot on a normal day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me in, stand up, one foot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, get up, I start balancing my feet like a specific whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I go and find, I'm fine, I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, after 20 minutes of sessing me, now go, you can get back in the car, but we're gonna say we don't recommend you get back in the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is right, give me the sign that sign that I'm good to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: So after the signing that I was good to go, the cart was ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to start on a learning the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think everyone was shooting at the movie myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was acting like I was a tough.
[SPEAKER_01]: But obviously being in the car, I'm thinking to myself, that car had a older box in the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine a older box below this car, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So automatically, I'm in the car, trying to act, and tough, and not scared, but publicly opposite, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I've done a burn-out, come back around,
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've always got him on big boost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't on, probably it was on two and a half hours per day.
[SPEAKER_01]: As I'm reversing, all my meaty was on the laptop.
[SPEAKER_01]: I never knew.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, he's doing whatever he's doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to check the really buzz.
[SPEAKER_01]: The cast, two steps, I've taken off the cart.
[SPEAKER_01]: When down, I've actually even down for, usually never guys down.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went down.
[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as I'm in top gear, I've got my hand on the shoot, hand on the shoot, and I pulled the shoot before the finish, because I'm thinking this is way too long.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did it together before.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, funny enough, it was a PB, so the car was the fastest ever gone, which was a 625 at 235.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the car's PB before that was 6-4.
[SPEAKER_01]: So after the accident, I jumped in the car, we peeped in the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: We come back around, I was doing one piece, the car wasn't so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone was excited because not only did we make a bad moment to a good moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's obviously a machine for everyone, especially my crew, my wife being around knowing that we just described that I had accident and got in the car when I was 20.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've got back around and everyone's hugging him, kissing and all the bullshit and what make me suggest to me, I'm just gonna tell you something, whatever, you guys are pulled the power out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I reaching that, I couldn't see a hook yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: So even though the carpet bead, it wasn't no any.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because the power was out of it, not just off.
[SPEAKER_01]: We used your nitrous and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So all that was often, the custom paper was a good moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: We went home safe to our families and we made a bad moment to live in them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And forever, it's going to get down.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just got going in the car after hitting the wire, 357 keys, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And got another car and had her on, so it's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you think your competitive nature comes from?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've always been competitive, always.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even for my school playing marbles.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or writing a bike or rather... Basically, racing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was always being competitive playing cards.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's always been in...
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I got a day day, so I love competing, I hate losing, I'm a soul loser, anything I do, I want to be in number one, I want to do, and we don't stop, we just can't stop, we never stop, so it doesn't matter what.
[SPEAKER_01]: hurdle, we get thrown at us, we pick us up again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna get shot back out and.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can, so it isn't bother you that, like, so when you, when you don't want to lose, it doesn't bother you that people might think that you're being like a sewer loser and like that, like, or, you know, like,
[SPEAKER_00]: What about the people around you that are looking at you and saying oh, this guy is always complaining or he's always saying something Here he goes again, you know like what you don't think about those people like how they think about like how competitive you aren't basically Have one I know his meat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was a second Anyone anyone in the straight anyway
[SPEAKER_01]: We have a Mara that says, no stories.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we know Lewis, if we lose, there's no story we lost.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause now, they can't come and say, oh, I'm misguised, oh, you lost me, let's see them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shut your mouth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go home and come back again, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm competitive, yes, do I lose?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, very often, not really, but I still lose I'm still human.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll not do lose, I get back to the drum board.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I work out a way that when I race again, the car or whatever I'm doing is going to be better and faster to try to make sure you're not a Q&A in the anime.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, if that affects people, I'm sorry, but not sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everyone can do the same thing and I can do the same as I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're just push and try to be number one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it a serious thing, though, or is it like...
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those things where you just like troll a little bit where you, you kind of like, you know you're doing it and you just want to continue to kind of...
[SPEAKER_01]: I should, I feel like I'm about my shoulders and you're about my shoulders.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything we do, it's a disease where this height losing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter what either, you can be, you can be real racing, drive racing, you can be cutting your grass.
[SPEAKER_01]: I write my name on my lawnmower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, actually, actually, remember that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I write on the lawnmower.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I took the lawnmower and I looked at how to get full photo until I cut back and beat him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, if that's no more, I don't know, it's a big issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, the one thing that was interesting about Australia is, when I came here the first time last year, I thought it was just going to be like a bunch of white people, that's a white Australians.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get to the airport and I'm just like, it was the airport, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm thinking it's international as people flying everywhere else.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I want the GTR festival, and there are white people here, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then majority of the people here are Lebanese, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Wolks.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you guys call them here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wolks.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was just kind of like confused because in America, that's how you think, like you think Australia is mostly white people, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But it seems to be opposite in the car culture at least because a lot of
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess labels.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel weird saying that because I feel like it's disrespectful this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's in the car game, it's probably, I would say, probably 80 percent in the world, but when I say, I mean, the labels, Macedonian, whatever I tell them, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, that comes on our competitive side, because all of our, the world is always competitive, it's always like the pushing they're fast, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: As the Aussie bloke, like what Mike Beach, they're happy to stick in and do laps and do nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They enjoy.
[SPEAKER_01]: they enjoy driving their car, we enjoy losing, so that's what divides the people, I can't remember, I guess that divides the people that enjoy their car and people enjoy the car and want to get fast, it's ugly feeling, but unfortunately that's what we don't know any better.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's, it seems like a lot of, it's hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: So difference in, in America and here, there is always drama between shops and so on, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But here I can't tell if it's a lot of it's Syria, so it's just like competition.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, here in Australia, we actually, very, very blessed because we get along with each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: So in this shop in Australia, we get along, they've on it along, if on it, hope.
[SPEAKER_01]: If they break a draft shaft and I've got it, he goes, take it and put it in the car and just get racing again.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that goes for any shop, doesn't matter which shop it is, I think it makes it more competitive when you open the opposition, because it's not a good job, it's a good job.
[SPEAKER_01]: If your car is running and the guy next to you has a broken drop on he can't raise what is the race you saw right now broke yeah yeah what do you need the race mate attire a drop I hear you yeah you go come most me so when you win you want to win because you're beating not because it's broken right so that's
[SPEAKER_01]: why we do what we do so doesn't matter which shop that we're racing against if someone needs something we've got it we're happy to replace it tomorrow when you go back to work by whatever it is in replace it because we want to bet you friends quit not because you're broken and I mean yeah no I'm it makes sense so that's that's the most end at the end of day war friends right I noticed that it seems like this in the america it's similar but I feel like
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was opposite and it seems like in America it's the politics and people getting involved in certain stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems like it's very serious stuff over there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can be friends over there, but it's very business oriented.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here I'm sure it's the same, but there's a lot more passion that goes into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's different because in America you're messing with people's money.
[SPEAKER_00]: and they see competition as you're messing with my money, and they see the pool of away from my family.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here, I don't really think it's like that, I feel like this is just more competition.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has a full competition in the money, because if you're going to buy the car, if you lock me, you're going to come to me, you're going to lock me, you're going to get a whatever sadder, you're going to get a... What do I need on the shop you want to mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So not many shops can deliver what we do, but only a couple, so all the lock me, you're going to get to them, they hate to me and come to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, on the main side, there's not much, it is what it is, but...
[SPEAKER_01]: We enjoy hoping each other, because I want a big up, actually I want a big up, because he broke it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the main reason why I hope each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted to cover something on the engine that I missed on all the other podcasts and it was the ignition.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, or at least the coils, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I noticed in your car, or a lot of the cars that you guys build, you don't have stocks on them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was kind of strange to me because a lot of the cars in the stage for the stocks.
[SPEAKER_00]: So why don't you run them and why do you run these stock R35 coils?
[SPEAKER_01]: We've tried a lot of calls, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: We've tried ignition boxes, we've tried whatever you can think about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I found that, if a genuine R35 cool pack and our trigger kit, so we have a cool kit, which we make a bracket, that suits the R35 cool pack.
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes straight in, that changing stalks.
[SPEAKER_01]: How it comes from Nissan, from R35, it goes straight in, and bolts up.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have had,
[SPEAKER_01]: Those schools make upwards of 3,000 horsepower on my own car, and my Commodore that runs 6,1 runs in, the done, we've tried and tested everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: We found that the R-35 schools are good enough to go as far as you want to go, get them in, so there's no reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've tried aftermarket stalks, and a 300-kilotech can't have a misfire because it's not together right.
[SPEAKER_01]: The robbers' wrong, the springler touching, this shit, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: After having so much issues with, we've, we've, we've, we've done shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you find something that works, you stick to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we've had them at 400 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had them at 3,000 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: The code does the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a need to turn it roll up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that, that's work.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when, when we build, as many cars that we build, and the color that we build a man, the last thing you want to do is build a brand you kind of a misfire, I have an issue because the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the skill engine.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll kill you because it's gonna do your head inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll never find something that works.
[SPEAKER_01]: We stick to our boy calls, I didn't find this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I bought him 200 at a time with 200 at a time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And every car that I build, only car that I tuned.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if I can't throw a dough on a tune, and just go off the mat, close, or off the mat, it's close, I won't tune it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You change your clothes before, I've been going on a doughnut.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You put the 35 clothes on, you put our clothes on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do another one, if not, I can't not be sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by having done that,
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't get out of the door now and it's on the door now for two hours and it's off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not, you go to the door now, it's got a misfire, change plugs first, change your mind, you just chase, you can tell.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we found out that after the 5th callback is the best and it's never had issue and that's where we stick to.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't want changing stalks and muck it around with aftermarket shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: What other stuff do you like to say if somebody brought a car to you, what other things you make them change as well?
[SPEAKER_01]: For a minute, don't add any car, any RB needs to have a cool kit, okay, and a tree kit, those two things, that's two things important, they're the most important part on the engine.
[SPEAKER_01]: As long as we've got them to in it, everything will be safe.
[SPEAKER_01]: If it comes on, don't add as good a few push-pollum, obviously it's another not an issue, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if the fuel pump's right, and injectors are right, obviously I ask how much value you're going to make, and I can tell you what's right, as you need.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're coming for EA85 June to make,
[SPEAKER_01]: seven horsepower and you've got four arms to see injectors, yeah, it's not going to work to make any of the thousands to see the other main.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's the easy part, but to have a headache free or 90% headache free, calm, don't know, it needs to run a cookie and a trick.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do that or junior car.
[SPEAKER_01]: You haven't got that, I'm not interested in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not interested in any of which I shape or form of junior car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get ready, you've got you in some of those.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so why is it really keep like super important for you to treat a key is super important because you're trying to turn a combo to it for Dizzy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's from 1987, mm-hmm You're timing checker forget even trying to give it he just timing checker.
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew he asked for zero degrees and you rev it and the fluctuates to eight degrees for degrees zero degrees How you gonna tune that?
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're demanding, I want 10 degrees in engine, but you're not getting 10 degrees in engine, because this is one of whatever it wants.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I say that's a safety issue, not only it's a safety budget, it's an issue for the engine.
[SPEAKER_01]: What would I want to put myself for the issue when I've been there and done that many years ago?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Same as Algeria, the cast is about 20 years old, 25 years old?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do the same thing, you put it on, you check the timing and zero is not zero.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it says zero.
[SPEAKER_01]: You rev it to 60,000 and the guy moves through the degrees four to back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you put a trick on it, deleting the pile of the bill, say, You check the timing, if I say zero is zero, I mean zero.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you're chasing a 2000 horsepower car and you want to try the grid of timing, that's, and you put one degree in it, one degree is one degree.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't have a trick, one degree doesn't mean one degree.
[SPEAKER_01]: To any tuner, that's the most important part.
[SPEAKER_01]: That if I ask for an AFR, I want to be at 1150s and I want to have 10 degrees timing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know that what I'm pursuing is you is having at the end of the end of the year.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're guessing.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're asking for your asking for failure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And failure is not what you want to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, 100%.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you only run hard tech on the server.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where you run hard tech on everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing else.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there is use.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing else.
[SPEAKER_01]: which was not on the back computer if you want to get fresh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to hold the world up on photo?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Iran care about fuel economy, the Iran care about cruising.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Iran care about cold star, not a thick skin.
[SPEAKER_01]: My problem is they'll do all that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when we come to a 2026 and black 100 once a colon and all the control and cold star better than Scrola, you need to have an issue that can do all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't you use mode tech?
[SPEAKER_00]: What's your take on mode tech?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that those are been using how to take for many years now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know inside you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you give me how to take.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't start on how to fix it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You give me how to doesn't order control on how to fix it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You give me how to take.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't blimp on how to fix it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's about to take a bit of ACU.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: ACU is as good as the tuner.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have a tuner that knows how to use the mode tech.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have a tuner that uses how to take.
[SPEAKER_01]: Answer and the same target and the same position that you want to be at because I've often out here is how do you use the same issue, but you put the most action on and how thick, you put one out, you use it 100% you use 80% you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So having a different computer or a link or a hermotic or how thick, they all do the same job, it all becomes down to it was person and buttons on the issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you know what you're pressing, it
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, you know the main sir, I've seen the mootick on RB and I've seen the hard to get an RB.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a mootick making more proud than an RB on RB.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there's a hard to make more proud than a mootick.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, so he put a mootick in a car, he put the same boost and the same AFR and the same ignition timing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna make the same power as the hard to get.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is like the engine makes the power not the engine in the turbo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it makes the power not that it's you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have the right tune up, that matter what is you have, you're going to get the same result.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a fair.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a very, very, very answer.
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't relate because I'm not a tuner, but I can't really when it comes to editing videos.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's tons of different software you can use, but you're going to have the same outcome.
[SPEAKER_00]: 100% exactly what you want to say to anybody has their preference and it might take you 10 minutes longer than the other client, but you're going to have the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I have played with my take, but you did to go to uni.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, when you're looking after 30 cars at the track, yeah, to make a change in a my take will take you, especially to me being not working on everyday or taking you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now what I've got will change you want to make, right, as I have to take with take me two minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you're looking at, when you're looking at, when you got 30 cars racing, yeah, and everyone's running six years in sevens,
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to be as efficient and as fast as possible, and the dialogue I want to get on off, then trying to work out or hang on, how do I make this shift faster, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm happy for what I use, I love what I use, and it's the best, I want to best at what I do, with the ACN.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, shout out to Haltech, they're my sponsor as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think, no one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, Haltech as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: So one of the things that I was always interested in is...
[SPEAKER_01]: Which means you're car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lee, Lee Birch, he's the one who built my car in America on the performance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what do you want?
[SPEAKER_00]: You want a two my car?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm kidding.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mitch, what do you have with these sound of these cars that you guys have here the chop, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, we don't really have that in the states like a lot of the RBs don't really sound like the cars in Australia when they're idling, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So is that a is that a combination of tuning and cam shaft size or what is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got zero demand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good ignition, zero demand, and gamma on us 20 and plus 10, or plus 20 and you'll be fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you write that down a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, one of our cam, we have big camshafts.
[SPEAKER_01]: So our cams do the choppy part.
[SPEAKER_01]: But by saying that, if...
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're watching your car, you've got a stock cam, you can still make a sound similar, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a, okay, how thick has a zero at the man map, an ignition.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you put a positive number, like 1100, 100 RPM, so you put 25 degrees in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I took 100, you put more than 25 degrees.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what happens?
[SPEAKER_01]: The computer's going minus 25 plus 25 minus that's going proper, proper, proper.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what makes it sound the choppy part.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that all you're going to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all you're going to do, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you can't do it, you're going to learn a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just, we'll take our 10 seconds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so then the cam shaft is pretty much enhances that sound if it's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so obviously something that makes that much power doesn't need a tune to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: re-tartening and righteous timing that does the boy it's off because it's got 300 grams of shafts in it you know what I mean 300 that's what you guys run all these thousands yeah some more some hundreds two noine is whatever but something that makes like a 360 degree cam shop you can't make a sound like that obviously so we do it through the issue okay so it is like a minus and plus and then what happens there could be that it gets confusing as minus 25 plus 25 right guys bro that's what that's what makes them
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's an effect like when you hit a throttle or it's only when it's only on zero TPS.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when it's TPS, when you're off the throttle, the computer knows you off the throttle.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all it does basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we also have another feature, it's called Rotational Auto.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that is not a sign is no, I hate it a lot of people try that, but it doesn't it doesn't sound like shit and you can't you I hate it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you use that for any of the cars at all like what is it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently it's not 20 guys like a 2006 guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: They love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I cannot stand there But 80% asked me to activate it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the sounds like shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you work with SS22.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tape it a lot, it's how it's gonna use.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so, where's your, like, what did you take on SOT 20's like, do you like on that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it just more of like a demand?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we actually have the fastest, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: You turned around six, it's how it's gonna be around 710.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: 109, 710.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I saw 20.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do you even know that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what?
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's now being sold and we're putting our be in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when 710, just two hardmen, 710, at one noise, 710, if it's out 20, VEHID, you want to let it off.
[SPEAKER_00]: But let block, what it run?
[SPEAKER_01]: 710, 710, 710, 710.
[SPEAKER_00]: How much power did it make?
[SPEAKER_01]: 1,300?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, 1,300.
[SPEAKER_00]: Through automatic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think Matt's works had the SR-22.
[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't, like, yeah, they run, they run, like, low sixes with, yeah, that's a pretty crazy crazy one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is, you said it's a fast radio.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, radio.
[SPEAKER_01]: Radio.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, it's a, I think, two, two, five, five pro or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are the engines need?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they pretty basic in terms of building them?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, again, man, you just buy a bit of block.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's built it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a bit of block struck a key in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He put a truck here and he put a vehicle on it and you're ready to make hell.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it, is it expensive to build one?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, not as much as I'll be, probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the price difference if you're, I mean, between the 15 or 20 grand difference between I'll be in this, huh?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I didn't even ask you, but what is it cost to build a car here?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you wanted to have a 2000 horsepower GTR with my six racing.
[SPEAKER_00]: How much are that cost?
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably a budget of 300,000?
[SPEAKER_00]: 300,000, what do you get with 300,000?
[SPEAKER_01]: Bump, but a bump.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we say full build, we do not use one thing out of the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll throw the full comesy, you get a spare strip to nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: including all the harnesses, all the wiring, nothing left in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We then put our combo, billet block, head, dry sum, turbo, and magnified wastecane.
[SPEAKER_01]: New enicola, new radiators, new gearbox, new talshaf, 9 inch diff, drive shafts,
[SPEAKER_01]: suspension, top arms, lower arms, brake lines, bumper, bumper wiring or through the heartache.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the whole car runs off the heartache, the fold mirrors, the interior lights, everything runs off the heartache, the medium, the boot, there's a medium in the boot that runs all the boot stuff, the fuel pumps, the towel lights, the
[SPEAKER_01]: their wipers, the horn, everything works off the hilltick, so there's not a fuse box in the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything is through the pdm on the hilltick.
[SPEAKER_01]: So would you everything in running device?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You then have to pay for interior?
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to put it in terrain, if you want to put it in terrain, or roll k door parachute.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, everything else we supply is bumper to bumper to the hostbell plus to incase it later.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to do it on your own, you want to paint it on your own, you want to put a k to on your own.
[SPEAKER_01]: But everything else we do is bumper to bumper to brand you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a 2000 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have different packages if it was less power or if you don't go a bit of block?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then again, I draw some, we probably save about 50 grand, roughly because you got to have to buy lines, you don't have to buy tank, you don't have to buy pump, you don't have to buy the 15 grand block.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're probably saving about 50 grand-ish?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what you said in Syria, the car has to come here, get built, and it has to be able to drive out of here, or you just do in the engine stuff, and a couple of wire harness and whatever else, because you mentioned in Syria too.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I say interior, it's like like hate me swear as the fact of interior.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the car comes in here, we stripped our car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: If the guy's not doing interior or he wasn't doing interior, we get the car running, we put the interior back in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he gets in the car and drives away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you want to put swede and acrataura and leather and dorm mistitching and honey cone and what if I like you could take your car to wherever he was going to trim it and they'd dream of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's not part of the package, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: We also put nitrous nitrous, nitrous lines, break pumps, vacuum pumps, exhaust flaps, all that's part of the package.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, is that part of like, you know, that's labor?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's parts included in that or everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Parts, labor, fabricating, wiring, donor tuning, assembly.
[SPEAKER_00]: is that I mean, I don't even know if that's expensive or not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's for what you're getting.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're paying that to get to look like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm assuming.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you something.
[SPEAKER_01]: For 300, 500, 300, and plus.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't make it for another game on the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they think, oh, this guy is killing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not killing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's probably 200 and 60 gaining parts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you buy albums, give box is about 35 going for the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's 30, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been a block.
[SPEAKER_01]: I strike a key, I head 50 going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Diff and Axles, 15 going.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're ready at 120, again.
[SPEAKER_01]: How tech mixes with all the software, 10 grand.
[SPEAKER_01]: 15 grand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: A large tweak.
[SPEAKER_01]: Turbo, Manifot, the wastegate, another 15 going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, actually, so out of 300 or so again, there's probably 200 of the guy in the parts.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's not a massive margin of this guy's killing it, because there's only parts.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can get a bug in the parts and we got what it costs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Except, you're doing a job twice.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we do the car, we put the car together, we're gonna get any car that's gonna go, and do whatever you ask me to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you run tens, I guess what I was gonna run tens.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you run seven, it's gonna run sevens.
[SPEAKER_01]: So do we make a lot of money on it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's expensive to buy a car, yes, but the parts are expensive.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's probably three to go and lay a bit in the car, or three to four to three, five to go and lay a car in the whole car, plus the watering, putting it on a table, everything going, and I say, oh, not, we've got 50 grand in margin, but you're paying the workers two grand or two, and I'm going to work on the car, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, what do you actually make them in the car's finished?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: See you around.
[SPEAKER_00]: How long did it take to, from start to finish?
[SPEAKER_01]: Roughly, now I have to put some on this, because it's always so busy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably I would say six to ten months, I'll get some more of that, but what we're looking on now is because the hardest, the most longest part is the machine chops for the engine, as you probably have a sample of them there, and the worry.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, what main guy does the worry, but he always puts it, or puts the card together.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if the main guy, or the main three guys,
[SPEAKER_01]: The goal that that's the warring is not working on the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the next car is like getting hooked on, or not getting, not getting advanced.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're working on our way to get complete engine looms, complete car bumper looms.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that way, when the car comes in, you know, this famous car comes to get built.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, now we've rid of engines ready to go now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now if someone reads me tomorrow for an engine, I've got it in stock ready to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I buy an engine, give me my money, take the engine, take it on, put it in use of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was one problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: The next problem is warring.
[SPEAKER_01]: So now we get it, we're making warring harnesses.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be completely ready to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when this car comes in my shop, there's already a wire harness on the shelf, which wire the whole car into your light's horn, wipers, flat shift fuel pumps, towel lights, brake lights.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're ready to go on the shelf and they're ready to engine and go on the shelf.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when the car comes in, you have to strip for up to K and then refit.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll show you able to put the car this in eight weeks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you have all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I've already put it on the shelf.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where I want to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to be able to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cut the lighting tone, so people don't get turn off waiting for the car to get before you get over it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you want to cut that in half, even less.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if in the next, I'll say, yeah, I reckon we can build this car in an hour of shopping a week.
[SPEAKER_01]: A week.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have, probably, as I get in, or 20 of the build now, as we speak.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if I do that, that'll take me to use it to get to them at this stage.
[SPEAKER_01]: because it's too long, you can't physically get too many faster.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is the fastest car you've ever built?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, in time?
[SPEAKER_00]: Time-wise, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably Sasha's real.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a real form, nothing to, I think, if I can't remember, 2012 was something.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, 20 days, 20 days.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, non-stop, non-stop, Monday for Sunday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Monday to Sunday?
[SPEAKER_01]: Go home two in the morning come back at seven in the morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: What was the purpose of it was it was an event I came in what event or okay, okay, but I had to make it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to make it In the guy offered to pay whatever cost to get there
[SPEAKER_00]: So there was an expert that expedited fee, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because after you had a thousand and then plus whatever, just because it was a Commodore.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't, it wasn't even need to be a hundred of those.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was a Commodore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it would have been like a hundred grand or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, different.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like knowing it was a Cosblock, a Twistly Power Void.
[SPEAKER_01]: By getting a done in that time was pretty chaotic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hactic.
[SPEAKER_00]: So to build a Commodore in a GTR, it's the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's 300,000 sales stands because you're doing the same engine platformer now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not many people spend that money on a Commodore, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: For the fact that it's a Commodore, people spend that money on a Commodore.
[SPEAKER_01]: What you find is, if you spend that money on a car behind me, probably we have to come again, and save that money again.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's finished, it's ready to go and someone in the boy or someone who ever sees, a rapper or someone has money is gonna be hanging for a car and he'll pay whatever it takes to get that car there into weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll never be seeing the car's get a couple of cars went to the boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're ready.
[SPEAKER_01]: 50 grand to freight him to the boy in the aeroplane.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they wanted it there in three days or two days or one day.
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
[SPEAKER_01]: Spending money on a gerial, your money is pretty much safe.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not buying a house.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost the end of the road or off or smash it, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What have you spent on the car?
[SPEAKER_01]: You must probably get back back to money.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: As in the Commodore, you spend that much money on the Commodore, you probably can only spend money on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to make money on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, so you spent 20, we're going to get back 150, you've losing money.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what people, I think, pick the JDR platform, because I managed to be safe.
[SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, basically, and well, it's basically an investment piece.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's like an investment.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there was of our video of your car.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was about a year ago, the blue car, making 3200.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, horsepower.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's different in that setup over everything else you have here?
[SPEAKER_01]: nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that set up the same as the product car set up, the same as done, same as the Commodore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's got a difference with that and this will be the bottom end will be aluminium rods in Kelly's crank.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: There runs an inner crank in inner rods.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the difference in that car was we don't usually run so much nitrous.
[SPEAKER_01]: We usually run maybe 100 shot nitrous
[SPEAKER_01]: 800.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a, there was a
[SPEAKER_01]: because you're not just makes power, it makes a total of us been hard and a bit of a maximal boost.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we put the first Kiron, I went to 104 pounds, I think, and made between 900 and 120, whatever the fuck it was, I can remember it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the second shot, which we've never been, yeah, but I'll just prove in the point that
[SPEAKER_01]: We can make power, and our engines do rev to 11,000 RPM, and that was my own car by then it came up a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it had to be done to prove a point, again, losing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was an issue that I had to
[SPEAKER_01]: I posted down here that I had to show him that hang on bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's talking shit and I can engines drift to 11,000 and we do make power.
[SPEAKER_01]: And here you go, I'm going to show you how it's done and that's what we did.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we put a lot of electricity in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was 800 to some of the hydrogen nitrous.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to, I think, 100 and I'm going to 100 and 6 pounds of boost.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that I'm making 3 to 12 dollars per pound.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the worst part about it is the fucking engine of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, getting off the dawn and I'm thinking, hang on bro, we'd duplicate this Nitrous key and set up into a primord car Because we run nine auditors in the primord car, we run five, seven years, nine auditors You run five, six to your five, seven to your nine auditors, and then you duplicate what we just did on the dawn, yeah, in that car, that's another 800 horsepower And now five is going to be
[SPEAKER_00]: How fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: How fast is it going to be?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he said, kept it to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can make that leave for five seconds in the finish line, it's going to be game over.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a whole lot faster.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking about probably 20 more or now or more.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not with a run with 800 horsepower extra.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's not issues getting all this power down to like, well, where are you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what's have been twice right, but I'm saying, even on these cars like, are you guys using 2,100 horsepower on these cars would have used to run 750 would have used 2,000,000,000?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: 2,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, make sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so if you think about some of those on, I don't know because I can put a lot of other things around the world's power.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, this guy used 2000s, but I don't know what it did on the weekend.
[SPEAKER_00]: 775.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you probably probably probably going to be more on 2000s
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where are you putting this power down up top?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where, like, how does that work?
[SPEAKER_01]: All the power up all the end, but at the beginning of the third gear.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking maybe two and a half seconds in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have five to eight pounds of wisdom.
[SPEAKER_00]: And are you spinning the tires at all?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, at that power, like, on these.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you want to put track drive, we're doing a prep track.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a killer track.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was off its head.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's probably what helped us carry down the first pass.
[SPEAKER_01]: The track was crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Siddi Dragway do an amazing job, especially when they're now within the break records, they're fucking of the best man.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the track prep and these tyres were 100% like you couldn't get any better.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It went 1, 2, 1, and the 60.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was wondering what this was in online on the 6th and I didn't see this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 1.960, which is pretty killer for a manufacturer car.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was first fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So having the right grip is what helps us get down a track and break the records.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're on a raw racing track, it's probably going to be chasing a tail.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's what makes everything work.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a team.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, even if you go on a sheet track, you're fine now and now with.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that blue car, what is it expected to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's a lot of power.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the blue car will never say three hours of horsepower, you're dreaming.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And pollinates 2200 horsepower to run probably mid-six.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you going to ever use three thousand?
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably never.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because obviously it runs a small Toyota.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a problem with car, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a full-strike car, full-dinterior.
[SPEAKER_01]: it's got um is that a methanol or is that that car with the gas what gas is on that car right 85 and methanol okay so that car has got 18 injectors
[SPEAKER_01]: It runs and drives on 805.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can drive anywhere you want on the 805.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a dry deck block, say runs on water through the head, but it runs water externally, through the head and through the block.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it still runs water in both, but this can't get through the deck separately.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It drives on the 805, through the injectors.
[SPEAKER_01]: The second is seeds, I think, five pounds of boost, or eight pounds of boost, it then switches to the re-injectors and runs on the muffler.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, he gave me say this two tanks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Miffinol tank, E85 tank, and it's always working.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the second it says any kind of boost.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Miffinol comes in and the gas to whatever power you want to make.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so what is that car expected to run you said?
[SPEAKER_01]: I, the record for that car is 690.
[SPEAKER_01]: 690, which is CRD.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where I want to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: My son's driving it because I hate driving, so my son's going to pull out of that driving environment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I tell why I hate driving.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you go to the track and is 20 cars racing, and I'm driving three of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can you picture what's happening here?
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, bro, can I have a comment on what it's going to make?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just too hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't want to drive.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to hope the customers hope my boys hope, you know what I mean.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's makes my life easier.
[SPEAKER_01]: If, of course, I want to drive the dawn because I have to drive the darkness.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I can't have unfinished business.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, I have to say I'm Keith Taylor.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can start driving.
[SPEAKER_01]: they can get the experience up and start driving the cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want a bit 690, and then how far I want to push it out of there, but assuming me too hard to beat that I don't think, we've to set up on the car and the power it makes, and also that one in the loser car.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to try to say safe, guys, deep as we can in the 6th, as soon as we get to a bit sketchy, we're packing that up.
[SPEAKER_00]: You said that people were saying things about you, not making power with the car.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why you proved the point and made 3,200 horsepower.
[SPEAKER_01]: People were saying that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our cars that I rift to 10, we won't rift to 11,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: What was it about raving?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're raving?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like they were saying in the car wouldn't make power.
[SPEAKER_01]: We wouldn't rift to 11,000.
[SPEAKER_01]: And cams were getting changed and there was just a bit of shit getting said.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just proved that the cams that we make that we're making for the last five or six years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cams that we're only in all our cars, the cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a cams that you're that make power.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I proved that that go fast.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then told me you're changing a sheet, when you're not changing a sheet, no, I see I see it's funny because that past people, I posted it on my story when it happened and some people were saying, oh, that's just like a one hit kind of dyno that that car is going to blow back to that so that's pretty funny how
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's always, there's always the haters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Most people are like, no, I'll deal with the talking about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So would that guy eat a beer on 5,000 times the horsepower?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, because I've never been there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been at 2800 horsepower, 80B of 6,7 months, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they are reliable.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you start putting them on watchers, they're going to be reliable.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to find out, but.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, of course, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what's next experiment sucks racing this year coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did she coming up?
[SPEAKER_01]: We are finishing the dawn.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably a couple of weeks away from finishing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to make a return to the track.
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to run fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: The record now is Zeus, of 63.
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to, we don't want to compete with each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to compete with the two
[SPEAKER_01]: Beating Zeus isn't a priority.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been in the 2J, which is a priority.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the 3J record is 550 of a full.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where we need to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Him, me, any RB, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: As long as we break the 2Js.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's where we want to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: 2Js can keep talking shit and saying, yeah, we're number one here, whatever, we've been doing it for 30 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: We started four days ago, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when we, when we get together, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can go into ya, I'm going to be to the front, I'm going to save this video whoever's gonna talk shit, save us, keep it in your pocket and turn ready to drop it, I mean I'm waiting for it, so I get a lot of haters because I'm an RB guy now too, so what sounds better than I'll be mate?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's what.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the main reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they said nothing sounds.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe a three-order.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they sound sick too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you were to sound pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: We go about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they sound pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I made sounds pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do many rebuilds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you also have the, yeah, obviously in this year coming up it seems like you're doing a lot more development and engineering and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you, what do you have that you're working on in terms of parts for cars?
[SPEAKER_01]: We know have MR engineering, we make everything and anything to suit an RB, yeah, which obviously are platform.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to soon change and start making two Jay staff and Honda staff and all that, but okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to make it all.
[SPEAKER_01]: But our first priority is obviously what what we use.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what we're making.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're now making a full drop sum, it'll be in a sum.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we're going to make a non-inch bolt in diff for the re.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. Because the opponent is good, but they still break.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They use because the keys are opponent.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to make an orange one at feet, so we can hold per guis in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to buy cash each of it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: After we do that, we're going to then start making two giant stuff and whatever else they're getting into.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
[SPEAKER_00]: So are you going to do a rear stop, too, for the RV?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to make a real drop sum.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because everybody needs one.
[SPEAKER_00]: We actually need one in the states.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, rude off some.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because there's a company called CX Racing that used to make them really cheap, but it was a pretty, it was a budget option for you to be able to use that and send this up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you have to kind of make your own.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's hard to find.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't even, I don't think they make it anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, some put Russell.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what's something?
[SPEAKER_01]: We actually am not going.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really, yeah, but how far back does this sit is it like at the very end where you can add the extensions or I have to look at it probably look at our show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I got him in stock.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because that's uh I just come on to America now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh really.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's the shot guy that I was a shock what is name?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the shot guy in a shotgun?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I thought, ah, a Chris Boat, you know, Chris Boat, the shot going in America, can any kind of fucking Chris Boat is going to burn?
[SPEAKER_01]: Boom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm like Chris Boat, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not on the other hand.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, he does that shocks for our cars.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he sounds good in the skyline.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he couldn't find something on the same one of our sums.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a that's there's a man for that for sure because a lot of people do a lot of drifting and they swap those into other other you know other chassies and they don't use obviously They'll drive.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to front something because of the space and suffering and so on so Yeah, that's definitely something that we've got to talk if it's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's take a look at that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you also have the valve covers and other stuff that coil that coil.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, ready at our records.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, uh, Billet.
[SPEAKER_01]: We will draw some already made.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we just started in the forward draw of some.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, A draw of shafts, funnily draw of shafts.
[SPEAKER_01]: We make ourselves do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[SPEAKER_00]: And all this stuff is available where we can buy this stuff at.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's all online, am I reengineering?
[SPEAKER_00]: OK.
[SPEAKER_01]: Almost too crazy, whatever that would have that like.
[SPEAKER_01]: So online, we make the subframe bushes, solid bushes for the reason, the diff bushes, what else we make?
[SPEAKER_01]: Kingpins for the front two, two, seven, five tires, I showed you them before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll remain two holders saying I'm supposed to remain CLL out, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: All pump lock-offs, all the pump lock-offs.
[SPEAKER_01]: We make good old men.
[SPEAKER_00]: So who's making these parts for you?
[SPEAKER_00]: More sun, sun does it all?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's there in the background telling me what we make, because I can't remember what the hell we make.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we make almost everything for the RB.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everything's tested, tried, abused, assaulted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Taking my golf, looked that, put it back on, abused, assaulted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Taking my golf, it's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's gone for sale.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of R&D, a lot of testing before.
[SPEAKER_01]: If it doesn't, before it gets for sale.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anything that's on for sale, on our website has been tested.
[SPEAKER_01]: for months and months of abuse, before for sale, or also remember for sale, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So do you guys ship to the states also?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we do, we do, we see each other anywhere around the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of the issues also like this some sites that don't offer shipping to America, and you have to get like an invoice and do the whole nine, so it's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we can ship you know anywhere around the world, of course you're paying for a buck.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah, yeah, no, even
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially for RB like there's really nobody who's really trying to make parts and kind of push the platform So we've got anything to do with RB.
[SPEAKER_01]: If anyone wants an engine, I keep focusing to play engines there Because I'm boredom in there weeks and heads separately anything you want for an RB.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've got you covered
[SPEAKER_00]: Awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there you have it, guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for taking the time to do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anything you want to say?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never sat just on my own.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was sitting for an hour and a half.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, all right, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like I got to let's a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know how you got me to sit for that long, but.
[SPEAKER_01]: How could it be done then?
[SPEAKER_01]: How could it be done?
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you've enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I think we can hope for our baby, we've got you covered.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks again, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like a doll.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for those who are watching and listening, continue to do so.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys are interested in purchasing merch, or anything from a six race and you guys can help with his website, or treat off with that code of copyright merch as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get your next one, guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cheers.