[SPEAKER_02]: Hi everybody, it's Bree Backwell with your Only Vans Bree Cap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Michael Mode, we call him Mode is the current base player for William Beckman, who I joke have ever heard of him because they're killing it, just open for George Strait, which we talk about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talk a lot about people today on a first name basis.
[SPEAKER_02]: First name bassist Ponds don't is of course don't domino an incredible artist that mode played with that I cut my teeth in the music scene with Don is a force as a manager to now and we talk about modes natural path to management
[SPEAKER_02]: which he's currently exploring with the amazing new Zoe Allen we love her.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talk about Kaybats, who is Kayl and Buds, Pruskin Bartula, who are members of the Cody Tottenham band and our friends, and a train interrupts us twice since we can't film in the RV due to broken slideouts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also we give a lot of love to our friends at Twin Rivers podcast who are always more prepared than me when it comes to podcasting, but they're great friends with Michael Mood because honestly who isn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this dude so much, and you will too, and I'm so glad that Beckman and the guys are okay after their trailer fiasco, we talk about that too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Enjoy!
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I had one manager come in, and I was telling him how tired I was or something, and he was like, you haven't, you ain't seen tired yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just wait, and it was like the most this like sadistic.
[SPEAKER_01]: you don't know you don't know ball yeah and it was just like why do you want to run your artists into the ground and that brings you joy hey everybody this is free bag well and this is my podcast we'll leave a house we'll talk to my friends
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'll save the Dalton story for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, well, he's he's kind of my Yoda.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don, is your Yoda?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for management and like things to do with more in the business that I don't fully understand it, but I want to school for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, you know, I didn't get a degree in that or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I did, and it didn't help me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish I would have kept my textbooks just so I could go back to them and be like, what is management?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that you would be a really, I mean you are going to be and are probably currently a great manager just because you have a understanding of all sides of the business.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's important.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's not necessary, but like, I think it is kind of important to be like.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, what's like to be out on the road just rough in it, you know what I mean and how that come to those artists in those moments of like just like hey Like this is going on don't just like parade them because there are a stressed out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen that a lot Yeah, managers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I had one manager come in and I was telling him how tired I was or something and he was like you haven't you They ain't seen tired yet You just wait and it was like the most this like sadistic
[SPEAKER_01]: you don't know you don't know ball yeah and it was just like why do you want to run your artists into the ground and that brings you joy that's not how it should go but I feel like getting into management is kind of a logical step for you like a next episode do you feel that way yeah like
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of fell into it kind of liked olden a little bit because like the whole thing was stally is just like they He was kind of you know mentor and them right in with them and all that stuff out in Call of Station Even in 2020 like we came in and played with a couple of their bands where they were still building bands, but um
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know, like, Stella, like, had a show at the tap, and he wanted to see more professional.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he was like, hey, Dalton, you like act like my manager.
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he, like, fell into his lap and he ended up loving it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good for him, I remember he called me, I don't know, maybe two years ago out of the blue.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, don't tell me what I'm like.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm managing this girl, she'll be, and I'm running across all of these issues, managing a girl I've never done it before, and I was like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, welcome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't have any advice here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of this is messed up and it just is more messed up or it's more confusing than managing a dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she was already dealing with a crazy stalker.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like I've I mean, like we've always like kind of known, you know, like with with the female artist thing that like that, it's like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like you hear the obvious, like, you know,
[SPEAKER_03]: big big artists, the linens, you know, all that situation with what happened there's dimebag girls like that kind of thing, but like I don't think I quite realize how like prevalent it is for female artists.
[SPEAKER_03]: I should have, but like I didn't fully realize, but we've we've had a couple friends recently that we've
[SPEAKER_03]: scour through their DMs and it's it's it's crazy talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's them talking to themselves like, you know, and getting mad about it It's super weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so insane and you don't respond and then they get mad at you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're for not responding but everything that they've ever you know, if you respond literally 2,000 fire emojis to everyone in my stories
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like when you're just going to get blocked, like, like, like, like, what do I do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that funny?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're mad at a response.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, it's a, it's a very strange territory, but I'm, it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: You say that because Paul, he's been in the music industry 20 years and until we started dating he didn't realize he's like, there's so much that I just didn't realize until you're in it and it's not like he was ever a jerk or anything or you either or not that you weren't paying attention, but when you're actually working with a female, like the differences are
[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of what happened here.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't every, everybody that offered Zoe, but there was some that were like, like, what are you getting out of this kind of deal, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then like, some other people that had, you know, there was women that had alternative motives, you know, not in that light per se, but like they had their own motives for other businesses and other things.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's finally like one night.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like so you know what I'm just gonna manage you.
[SPEAKER_03]: She had asked me like several times before and like I kind of joked around with her like I'm just gonna manage you and just after
[SPEAKER_03]: what she's seen so far that I know about, like, I'm sure there's even more.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's when I was like, yeah, I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And my whole thing is like, I'm gonna get you to a spot and hand you off, you know, like show you what I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm basically just mentoring you, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, well, let's talk money.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, you're not gonna pay me.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I was like, once you start selling out red rocks, then you can pay me some money if you want.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, even then, like the whole time, I was just like, you know,
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to build her up and hand her off, build her up, and hand her off, and then finally Dalton of all people was like, dude, are you enjoying it?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, yeah, it's really interesting doing this side of the business, even down to the venue stuff, like it's a world-eyed, understand, but didn't fully understand.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, no, like I ended up enjoying it, we had pre-production last night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my God!
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if she's ever worked with a full band before, and Casey Johns was in there from Yellow Dog.
[SPEAKER_03]: We came up together and love it, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: For real?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he played in Dixhat band.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks for.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay, I guess I did know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's a blue lighter, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, we're talking about Zoey Allen, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking to Michael Mode, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I never introduced the gas.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just kind of what I do.
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of love that though.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got picked up by a big network and they were like, hey, can you like, introduce the guest?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, oh, I guess that is important.
[SPEAKER_01]: But now I just do it at the beginning.
[SPEAKER_03]: The twin river scrolls got me though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like their intro was like so sweet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just like wanted a crawling side-mountain skin.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't get me wrong, but like, you know how musicians are?
[SPEAKER_03]: We like to dog on ourselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like when somebody says something nice, you're just like, oh,
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, like this is sweet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know them that well when they did mine.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was the same thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of caught me off guard and I was like, that's the nicest thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I don't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't do that on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, no, we're talking to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: No good intros and no research.
[SPEAKER_01]: Little to nothing, which is why I've pretty much only had my friends on here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really funny that that you know you're like why won't you have me on your podcast and I'm like no no You're like at the top of the list.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd show you my list.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like look because it's just easy for me to just chat with my friends I don't even absolutely and every time we're hanging out We usually get into some kind of conversation and then we're like we should do this on the podcast
[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle, him could, right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it does.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I'm not even there and you're at a bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not how we do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so back to Casey Jones, you were a, I mean, I'm glad that you're here now, but that's all the times that I got to hang out with you that I early days was our West Texas.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the first time we met at the tap in Coliseus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my gosh, that's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Dalton, Dominos, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll never forget that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that when I, I, yeah, I had a beer of the bulls.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I went like this and I just, I don't really know why I was doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like perfect though, like she was, we had just met everybody was in the house, Priskee, like everybody was in the house, and we're having a good time as you do at the tap, and then something just kept hitting me in my ribs.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, what is that now looking there's nothing there and I was like, okay, I guess Dalton or somebody typical Dalton would do something with that And I'd fill it again and fill it again and then finally like the last time I looked down and she's just you
[SPEAKER_03]: I was being a bull and you said, I'm a bull and I was like, I'm going to be friends with Breed Bagwell for the rest of my life.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really have been.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I kind of missed those old days in the sense where, you know, like, the young girls coming up, I just had a right with Molly McDonnell, who's 18.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's so great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so how old is Zoe?
[SPEAKER_03]: She's 21.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's 21.
[SPEAKER_03]: Might have just turned 20 on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were insane, and it was very fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I really feel like I'm amazed that we're all still alive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you feel that way?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's Keith Richardson syndrome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's still smoking cigarettes, like, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like, I remember one time showing up to a show and don't, I don't think he would care if I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, he was asleep on the stage with the bottle of jackdainals and then you, you guys were drinking some and you were like, do you guys want some?
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were like, yeah, so I mean, it just kind of was how it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now, you know, all the things about, I was talking to Molly, and I said, I wasn't drinking last week, you know, and so she wanted to go out and I just told her, you know, diving into the alcohol man, I wish I hadn't, I just didn't know that there was other options, but she goes, but you have so many stories, and you guys have so much fun, or you did, and she's not wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think no.
[SPEAKER_03]: The experience, like, I mean, yeah, when you look back at it, especially like as we get older and like we've been in this for a good amount of time, like you look back at it and you're like, how, like, how did we do that?
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, yeah, most of those nights that we remember forever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, you know, wouldn't have happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or it's different members.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Django Walker calls it a gray out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm happy he said, Jango Walker, we were talking about, you know, creeps, you know, stalkers, to women and we're Jango's one of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, that's not true.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's our friend.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, he just creeps on us boys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just likes to make things weird for us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, he, uh, we were sitting at a table with a young lady that was going through it and she was one of the ones that was, you know, kind of showing us what was going on in Django said, man, let's just set them up and make it a, uh, meat and beat when we, we bring them to a meat and greet and we just beat them up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, love that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't sure where you're going with that exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Copy right.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, copy right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's so funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just trick people coming, you meet and greet and then beat them up, you know, for the things they send people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but it's just said she's like match with dudes on Tinder and then just invited them to the show, which is also brilliant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, oh, I love that woman.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, I love that woman too.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is very weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I've been out of the...
[SPEAKER_01]: you know talking to younger girls they'll go right with guys and they're not sure if it because the guy wants to date them more just to really write with them right and that's been so long because Pony I've been able to for so long has been so long since I had that feeling that like with Zoey and stuff it's like a bet she has just so much more of that oh here goes the train we might have to pause
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody take a drink, we'll be right back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought about like just going and putting a ton of olive oil.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just falls off the tracks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like all buying all the home goods olive oil that they have.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know they have like the big and just like putting it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you think that would help or no?
[SPEAKER_01]: Paul said no country music star rebag well arrested for domestic terrorism D rails a train they go through 18 houses less it this is longest train has ever happened we were saying that is one of the topics that we talk about a lot new and i is male female and i think you know i got lucky in the sense that
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys, I would just treat me like a homie, but there are differences, but we never tried to make it a difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or I never did too, but it's hard to talk about because people are like, you know, one person in our scene, one of our peers, even was like, it's not a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it is a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I like to just be treated like a homie, and that's how you guys always treat me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean,
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know anybody else who lives the life I do you know what I mean or has lived the life that I lived and has traveled like I traveled and like gotten ready in a van like putting your pants on which is one of the hardest things on earth to do because you slip and you slide like when you're sweaty yeah oh yeah it's not even on so you're in their dying you don't want to catch a charge so all the doors are closed like but
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a charge dog like road dog that's nerd and road dog or the best like Compliments you can give a musician in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, you are so both of those things especially nerd like nerd You're your beast like your player like but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just like I guess we're so fortunate to come up with everybody that we did Like you know, I was raised by all sisters, you know everything else.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like no
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a mystery of me about, you know, how women are treated, you know, all that stuff, but yeah, to say it's not real is crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd say it's not right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't say it's not real.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, um, no, like you do the same things I do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you go out.
[SPEAKER_03]: You travel millions of miles, you know, um, get ready in a car.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I, being on the bus now, like I actually said that about last time we played with Stella, he was shaving in his side mirror and I was like, I missed that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I don't know what it is about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, but I missed that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, just roughening with your homies, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, it just, it goes back to that kind of stuff that like, I just don't understand, I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's for awards.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's for words, male, female, like the whole, like I usually don't like girls, but it's like, okay, but that whole shaming, but like you, like, you know, Jamie Lynn Wilson, like Courtney Patton, Caitlyn butts, like Caitlyn used to put us up in her house, like in Oklahoma City, when she lived, like, closer to Rick Town.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we play Wormy Dog with nowhere to stay, like she cook as dinner, her adult must stay up all night, ride music, and then she'd kick us out in the morning and we go on
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, it's just like, there's a camaraderie to it that, like, you don't, the real ones don't pay attention on that crap, you know, because, like, I know plenty of female artists that, like, it's just artists, like, um, that out sing the boys out drink, the boys out hang the boys any day of the week, you know what I mean, what is that, you know, it's like sport, you know, there's still athletes, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: totally.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and Molly was said, well, what do you do in the summer when you're, you know, I get off stage and half my face is melting off.
[SPEAKER_01]: And how do you keep your makeup on?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, I said, oh, just Google, rebound will summertime for the last 15 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a drowned picture of a drowned rat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, one eyelash is coming off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, sometimes there's no secret to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, you sludge through.
[SPEAKER_01]: What it is, and now I have RV, and I have a place to go, which, sorry, the slide outs are broken.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why we're on my porch today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel I got lucky with the porch, though.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm jealous of the porch.
[SPEAKER_01]: The porch is a nice place to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little muggy, but no big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think Beckman, now that you're playing for William Beckman, everybody?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you've ever heard of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think he keeps you around, because you detailed the bus?
[SPEAKER_01]: And just get a key.
[SPEAKER_03]: You do not know how many times I've asked myself that at three o'clock in the morning when I should be sleeping like
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling joking.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm my level of OCD is pretty intense and sometimes I use it to my favorite but Beck's kind of the same way.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a pretty clean person as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, no, that dates back to like even Dalton like with Dalton and then I was always cleaning the bands and stuff just because I can't take it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they get to benefit off of me like not being able to take it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's incredible.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is so lucky, or you're a great base player, and then you also are OCD, because when you said nerd and road dog, and I was like, where does OCD fall?
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're always in the nerd category, because a lot of, I mean, it just gets so messy, so fast and so smelly, so fast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember,
[SPEAKER_01]: making videos for my old back in the van days for my old van and I would sing under the seats and I'd be like this old teacher Ronin is all right, pepperoni is under the seats, but I would like somebody has to clean it up and when you get off the road and everyone's so tired and I get it, you know, you kind of just leave it and then just compounds and it's just whoa.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Dalton's is pretty bad as you could imagine, you know, because
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean I can't we can't lie here like when we were in the sprinter with back we had our p corner right like so the aim of it is this is is you get the core bottles because they have the biggest opening on them or whatever but like yeah I know we knew like if there was a core bottle in there that wasn't yours like throw it away because it might be a p bottle but like yeah I know we had a little corner in the front
[SPEAKER_03]: that you got a little privacy and you just show you what didn't have to be the one that made everybody saw.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Dalton's was worse because he had like milk size, like gallon-sized jugs of like pee and like I'd be clean that van and I just grabbed one of them like
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to kill him.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, dude, the least you could do is take your pee jugs out when you get out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's something that you don't have in a grow band, except that I remember when Nathan quit, they all told me that he used to do it, and I just never knew.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, and that was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I didn't know about it and you didn't have to pick it up, like, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what strange scenario, and now we have the RVs, and now we can write that while we roll down.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can use a vacuum and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I think I meant a piano.
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[SPEAKER_03]: play for you played for uh uh we're in clug green and but you play guitar for Will is he playing guitar for that was kind of his deal is he he he he wanted to go more into the guitar world of things and yeah the will gig it just open up so hey this is Bree Bagwell and if you want to listen to this podcast early and add free subscribe to my patreon at www.patrion.com backslash
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but, uh, no, uh, Nick Nick Bukke, um, also known as Mojo Griggs.
[SPEAKER_03]: He works with Braxton Keith now, but he was he was the TM for, uh, back at the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: We admit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And his memory is so great because it was like eight years before something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, do you remember, like, taking that guitar for me on way bones bus and getting it signed for me has like, no, it was like, what was our drinking tequila that night?
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, yes, I was like, then no, but like he remembered that and they were, it was just perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: perfect timing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like really I was actually living in Nashville at that time.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I remember you moved there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was with the band I was playing.
[SPEAKER_03]: It started to be based out there and also you know I was living in Stevenville for a while and I just kind of wanted to change a pace.
[SPEAKER_03]: See what it was like out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: I loved it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like all the musicians and the singer songwriters were super super cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot like Texas like it was a little more like
[SPEAKER_03]: you don't just go like jam as a my experience and I could be completely wrong here I was only there here but like you know just what we would do in Texas like you had a couple at the bar you get a ride home you know like I have a full set up like let's just jam and do stupid stuff you know what I mean and we play structured music for a living like let's just jam a little bit and make some mistakes but
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a little more business.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were like, oh, let me check my schedule kind of thing and I don't like but I get it They have like rights and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have to go do but it was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it was great Like they were they were tightening in a cool way It seemed like everybody knew each other and supported each other pretty pretty well because we were we always thought coming up That'll have it gives not that way like everybody was at each other's thoughts all the time
[SPEAKER_03]: But it is kind of cool there because they have all that business folk that like, they let the business folk deal with that and they treat artists as they should.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was never unwelcome by artists.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they also kind of nobody knows who's going to be the next big thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're like nice to you right now, regardless.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I don't know if it's 100% because they're nice or just because they're like, hey, maybe this girl's going to be whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I always, I always liked Nashville or at least it had kind of,
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like the tide has turned from all people trying to do the little Texas thing to like, okay, and now we got, you know, it was like, wait and ran, you kind of got the first deals and then now it's like Parker and Cojo and like, you know, it's like, yeah, we can, we can sell tickets and we can do things worldwide and that's kind of what the National Artist seemed to be jealous of us for and then I get jealous of like some of the opportunities that they get that I can't have so it's kind of like we both just different things.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've, I've, that's a hard one, especially on our stands back in the days, but I believe it was William Clark Green that, like, can't kind of give us that talk about this, because we were very, like, college kids, we were very anti, like, Nashville, it's, like, all taxes, you know, like, all of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe it was William Plagerie and they gave the talk to Dalman saying, you know, like, I better never catch you didn't we all do in that.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, because, you know, who are you?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: And he says that the same with, you know, I love his, his take on, you know, guys that were under us that surpassed all of us and went on to do brilliant things.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, dude, they're opening the door for everybody else.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: And on top of that, like, what he said, Dalman's like, they're doing the things you want to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: You give, that's just pure jealousy if you're mad about that, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's just pure jealousy because they're doing exactly what you're wanting to selling out stadiums, not even a arena of stadiums, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: So, like, that goes back to art though, like, that's why I won't say, like, anybody, if I say so many sucks, like, I'm, I'm always, I don't really ever say it like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I usually just say not my cup of tea because like, that's art subjective.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like, what you like,
[SPEAKER_03]: might not be what the next person likes, but that's what makes art awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, if everything sounded and looked the same, it'd be bland and it's like, right, you know, but I can't imagine, I mean, I went to see Cojo at the rodeo because he asked Paul to play a couple of songs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was sobbing the whole time, but it's like, I cannot imagine feeling jealous in that moment out.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like, those are our buddies, those are our friends for 15 years.
[SPEAKER_03]: We started together and I think that is the true difference though, like, uh,
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't, yeah, well, I'm man K but sweet because of those moments and those things we always call their our Lorentta land, you know, like putting this up and feeding us all that stuff and like I just love her attitude towards everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: But no man, like I could even remember when Randall played his first Billy Bobbs and I was there and like I was front row and he got a standing ovation and I balled like a baby.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, you know, and everybody's like, are you okay?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, I'm just
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, I know like that's I believe truly that's the difference not between just us and then us and everybody us in Oklahoma and Against everybody Right the only difference is is like how we treat each other and it's passed down from generation to generation That's how you were taught that's how I was taught
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's every day I meet a new young musician, I try to do the same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, treat them like my little brother or sister.
[SPEAKER_03]: I call Zoey my little niece, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how we were treated.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how we're treated.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how Cody Canada treated us.
[SPEAKER_03]: They treated us like their little nephews and put their arm around us and at least tried to,
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to share some of my friends.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to keep us away from them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also giving us the eager bombs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also the things that they were doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're totally right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And whenever I meet a new female artist, I'm always calling me anytime.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I do get multiple calls per week per week about who stays for radio or how do you do this?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, I don't really have a ton of people that I could call when I started.
[SPEAKER_01]: at the same time, I could call everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: And everybody was incredibly nice to me and helpful.
[SPEAKER_01]: And do you remember that early days when we would open for somebody and they would give you cash?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, every single show I paid, played.
[SPEAKER_03]: Man, we didn't, we got them with a few.
[SPEAKER_03]: Turnpike did a really cool thing back in the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: We did the same East Cushroom with them, starting like North Carolina and then we'd end up implored at the end of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, in those days, we were making like $200 total.
[SPEAKER_03]: a night full ban in a van says gas money, you know, but that's that's the opening circuit, but uh, Turnpike had a cool thing in their contract back in those days, um, that if they presold out the show, they bonused out the opener $1,000.
[SPEAKER_03]: and like that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, but that that shows you right there, like the people and these like kind of scenes, like, they know what it's like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had all of them just come up and hand me wards of cash back in the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, they know what it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're just like, man, they're like, they know that's, that's the true, like, test.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that opening circuit is,
[SPEAKER_03]: crowd might not like you, or they might love you, and you're going to make pretty low money, but the exposure, you know, you can't really put a price on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: and has it didn't say this, but it's not a big deal, but I just posted that Turnpike's last show that they didn't when they didn't show up at white oak music hall and we were, and I was out like thousands of dollars with like hotel rooms, and I still paid my guys and stuff, and I was, it was just such a bummer, because they were one of the ones that have been good to me, my whole career, you know, and it was like such, it was just such a bummer.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's pretty funny, because if I ever open for any of the big guys,
[SPEAKER_02]: Who wears my ponies and they're like, come on, breathe with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need $300 anymore, but back then it was a lot of money to get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were opening for $300 and they would match it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember Casey, I don't even know he went into his 600 bucks and they matched it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they would just match the opening pay from the bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so special.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like this scene really is so special.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like having friends like you, having people that we can just talk to, and there's a deer back there.
[SPEAKER_01]: What advice would you have for
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you've kind of been in the scene a long time with a lot of different types of artists and a lot of different types of bands.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, you seem really happy now and everything's firing on all cylinders.
[SPEAKER_01]: But somebody who wants to play base and get to the point where they're in a tour bus, like you are, do you have advice for them?
[SPEAKER_03]: I have one thing that I'll say to any young songwriters, anybody's, you have to love it a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, the act of playing music, the sheer act of playing, or the sheer act of writing, creating.
[SPEAKER_03]: that you'll never lose love with it and that almost all the time we'll love you back.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, just sitting on a porch and just playing some guitar just to do it like, you know, that part will never leave you.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the music business itself, most of the time, will not love you back.
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you love music more than it loving you back, you'll always be fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: You'll always be okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's been years that I've
[SPEAKER_03]: was in tears because, you know, I wanted to quit so back because it was hard and I couldn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was in my bones, like I just couldn't do it, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's that and community.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've been talking about this whole time, but without the blue light community, the love of community, the Texas community, and even at times the Nashville community, like, I would not be where I am, like, at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I think that's a weird thing I tell my guys all the time, especially the ones that are with me for a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's my dream, it's my songs, it's my art, you have to work so hard and get no sleep and be away from your family's for my dream.
[SPEAKER_01]: That feels so weird to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the most ultimate form of, I respect obviously, but support, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's,
[SPEAKER_03]: it's all in you know we had that talk was all in and her band yesterday she's like it's all in and if you're not all in like we get it like that's fine like go find something that you're gonna be all in on but
[SPEAKER_03]: We call those writer dies man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, it was special.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're in it to win it.
[SPEAKER_01]: At her point in her life, because my guys now, you know, we get hotel rooms every night, we're not, I mean, they had to drive overnight the other night, but I heard another driver, you know, they're not necessarily roughing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, but still like, but it's still roughing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not.
[SPEAKER_01]: as hard as it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that was the thing is we didn't know that it was hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know until later.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like the most fun thing you could do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because we love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to sleep in the van tonight because I have to tell a lost mayor.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really like whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we wouldn't do that now.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's another thing to that too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like I was again telling Zoe and her guys that yesterday is like, you know, the whole ball some more thing that happened with us with the airport.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, yes, where we're stuck in the TSA line for six hours and then we missed our fly obviously So we had to sit there for like another ten hours, but three of those hours were outside.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and the Yeah, that's now.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can tell who was from Baltimore and who was and you could tell we were Why are you wearing a pearls now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and I had shorts on to but I had a hoodie and I was like, what did I do?
[SPEAKER_03]: But no like in those moments like
[SPEAKER_03]: vehicles breaking down like, you know, things that are inevitable on the road.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like our trailer flipping and everything being ejected from it, you know, like it's just sadly that's just part of the road, but like we always like to say, man, this would really suck alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: It would really suck alone, and it's fun to go through things that suck with people that you love.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like people there, like your team, like your your chasing
[SPEAKER_01]: There is nothing more fun than driving down the highway laughing with your band.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it is the most fun that I ever have.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's so much fun and you can't describe it when things are firing on all cylinders.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought the one time that our trailer tire flew off and passed us on the highway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where we had no cell phone service in West Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was the craziest trailer thing that I've seen.
[SPEAKER_01]: But your trailer...
[SPEAKER_03]: How did that even happen because so is it wasn't hooked up wrong because oh, maybe drive and he's not hooking up a train well And you know naturally and bands, you know because it is brother sisters stuff, you know you'll pick at each other Especially when you're stressed out, you know, but like everybody's like, you know, did somebody do this to somebody do that but no
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, we had a lock pin in the receiver end of the bus.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the hitch, the ball, like that, that section, the pin must have snapped because it, and we knew it was tied not for anybody that's going to say something about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, keep it to yourself.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was tied up that we had a hammer in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't a loose, like, ill-fitting.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, no, I woke up because none of us felt it.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of us felt just,
[SPEAKER_03]: The bus pole over and we thought we were like, oh man, something's going on with the bus, you know, we're crawling down the bed, Bobby gives the trailer gone.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, what do you mean gone?
[SPEAKER_03]: And he goes, look out the window.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I, that's when I filmed all that, like, looked out the windows, like, oh my god, because first thing naturally I see is the guitar of all, thrown like 20 feet.
[SPEAKER_01]: It got turned out of the tune.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, most mostly, all that that I filmed was there, like when we walked up on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: How did it, how did this work?
[SPEAKER_03]: It snapped.
[SPEAKER_03]: And after I realized like he was saying like the trailer came off, I was like, oh, okay, so it probably slid for a while
[SPEAKER_03]: um no it came off and it has kind of that perfect slide leg on it and it went for like 200 yards maybe 300 which is scary with that kind of weight on trailer excuse me but um yeah no it went there and then it went into the median which is also scary and it hit a drained
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'll tell you what, those, uh, I always wonder those like cable guard rail things they have there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, what could that honestly do?
[SPEAKER_03]: Stop, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stop a gigantic trailer from going into Uncome and traffic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, because the miracle.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I never even think when I'm driving like, maybe this trailer is going to come off and, no, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and we've been on it so long.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you know, best of all that it just,
[SPEAKER_01]: some things gonna happen if they can happen it's gonna have you know what's it like being a bear with him repeat oh man I love that dude
[SPEAKER_03]: next time we're around each other at the bus he had a I make a book about our band and had it like made into a book and it's the most ridiculous thing but I always joke that like that's like if if Sammy P was like narrating our band's life you know because it's like to kill at this and like road dogs like to kill all this it's the most ridiculous thing but Sammy
[SPEAKER_03]: is the oddest person in the world and what I mean by that is he's like so interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a lot like Paul like with, you know, he's a wise boy.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's level one, whatever, whenever we went one, we look at Sammy and we're like, what do we get kind of thing?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, speaks French.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cook's French cuisine.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he has like trashy like Texas tattoos.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're really good tattoos, but you know, when he has his sleeves cut off of it He just looks like the least cultured person you'd ever meet and then you talk to him and you're like, oh, this dude's like very smart and very cultured
[SPEAKER_03]: Like he knows fine dining, he knows like all that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's been a month in France like with his newly wedded wife They conceived the child while they were in France like it's the most Sammy piece.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the most Sammy P that's so fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: It said when he talks about UT like that's just my only thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, boy Sorry, we will know he's not go there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I like UT now.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're in a different conference, but he just he likes to give me hell because I'm a Texas tech fan But doesn't even matter
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was not like born and bred in the rivalries, but I remember in college, all the football players, they hated going to play at tech because it was routing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, rowdy, he or anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's tortillas.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, listen, where I come from tortillas are very valuable.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can't be throwing them.
[SPEAKER_01]: How much money are these people making it?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're throwing tortillas.
[SPEAKER_01]: They uh, yeah, they're not making them themselves.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's that's Lubbick in a nutshell, though, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like you're on your own island.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what I attribute to a lot of like the music out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like for Pat Green, Wade Boone, we could go down the whole list.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll show you all of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: you're on an island so like there's not much to do out there but go see live music and hang out with musicians and go drink at the blue light and then drink a little bit more and go to a Texas tech.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's that's everything there you know is Texas tech that's probably why I love it so much though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah it was very you know I always talk on this podcast about feeling a little bit not jealous
[SPEAKER_01]: maybe jealous.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not really sure what the word is, but how the camaraderie of that music scene, you know, they like, come here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking you with me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm Josh, I was like, come here, William, Clark Green, I'm going to help you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, they really have this tight knit thing that I
[SPEAKER_01]: feel like I never really had, which wasn't true, because I definitely was, you know, in the same book and agency as like Josh Ward and so Joe and like all those guys have my back till the day I die.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just really special.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm hoping we can build that in new brunfills.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think, well, actually on twin rivers, they did ask me a great.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got really great questions too, but they asked me, they said, how does Fort Worth compare?
[SPEAKER_03]: to new brothels, and I go, man, this is no shade.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love for Worth, like, for Worth knows I love for Worth, but, you know, that's the hub.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have a scene there, and it's a very prominent scene of heavy hitting, heavy hitting musicians, singer songwriters, all that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, but down here, like, there's just kind of a magic to it that I could only really equate to love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, just with it being everywhere, you know, music is everywhere here, and um, I'm also getting to see the younger class come up, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: That was always a lovey thing is like you get to see the waves happen of, of, of, it being handed down and all that stuff, but, uh, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you get to see the younger class come up, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: That was always a lovey thing is like you get to see the waves happen, of, of, of, it being
[SPEAKER_03]: With Lubbock, we always thought it was just a Lubbock thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we finally met Cody Canada, and I met Jeremy Plato, and like, realize like, oh, no, this is Texas Reddert thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is how everybody treats each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: We were so stoked, because we were so scared.
[SPEAKER_03]: Leaving Lubbock, like, man, is everything going to be super competitive, and like, at each other's throats, and talking mass all the time, and it's just like, no, like, it's the same thing just on a bigger platform.
[SPEAKER_01]: Totally, or I was at a festival early on in my career, and I was, we didn't have anything to write the set list on, and I was kind of stressing out, and somebody knocked on the van, and it was Cody Canada with a stack of printer paper on a Sharpie.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, I heard you need it, so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is probably a nice way, because I was probably like, BRENDA, BRENDA, BRENDA!
[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, oh, things could have came though, like, that's so...
[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty good at it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how I feel that I hope people think about me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you, which, you know, it's like, you're welcome at our table.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're welcome to ask questions.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want you to feel welcome and supported and loved and not scared of us.
[SPEAKER_03]: I missed one thing on the telling a younger musician or artist coming up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Be a good hang.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the one thing they can't teach you in any music college ever is, I mean, you don't have to kiss nobody's butter or anything, but like, be bearable to be around.
[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes that just means being quiet, hold on, hold your ears.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're here with the train.
[SPEAKER_01]: So hey, we're reporting live from the train or the trains are reporting live from us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All these amazing opportunities that you've had, you know, recently, I feel like you wholeheartedly deserve and I also love your woman.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love me some Tracy, but can we talk about those moody shows, opening for a door tray.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Opening for freaking George Street.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you ever think that that was going to happen?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, like I I had my very first band ever we got to open for ace in the whole one time and I was I For the rest of my life thought like that be as close and I was fine with that because those dancers Brilliant musicians, but Yeah, no like it's it's weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned Tracy and like getting ready for that and like when it was announced like I got a little excited about like all right And like getting closer to it like she's getting really excited about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, are you not excited?
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, oh, I'm dying inside.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, but I have to, you know, it's another show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be excited after this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once I've done my job, then I'll be like, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, man, it was that weekend was kind of crazy because they had a show in between.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we did Thursday and Saturday and then there was no show in between.
[SPEAKER_03]: We left all our stuff there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what a dream.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we went and played in South Padre in between.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so we went and picked up a picked up a show in South Padre.
[SPEAKER_03]: They rented out the gear that we didn't like absolutely need the gears or whatever.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the whole time, like the whole week leading up, I'm like, man, I'm going to treat South Padre like a little mini vacation between it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And
[SPEAKER_03]: No, we're just like coming off the high, you know, of doing that and still like processing like that actually happen kind of do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then we get there and she's like running around and stuff and then by the time we got back to do the second night, like that's really when it hit.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, the nicest, like crew and band, they were like so accommodating like and moody centers the greatest, like it's
[SPEAKER_03]: they had and catering like you'll see this in catering sometimes but like they had all the medicine and we thought it was like we thought it was like George's writer or something no no that was just moody they had every medicine you could think of like times like anything you could think of
[SPEAKER_01]: officially all because my eyes are like, because you run out of terms at the worst time, you don't want to get it for $8 at the Chevron.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, enchiladas, I need some terms, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to cater me, you're going to ask you should also cater me some time.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is so nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's so thoughtful.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they paid for hydration, like they brought like IV people in to like do like hydration things, and but um,
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm talking about the weirdest part of George straight right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that makes me so happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of the things where you're like opening for George straight, but when you're like, I've made it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's things like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, people are thinking of more things than I'm thinking of, which is so usually we're like, I wish, you know, sometimes I'm like, I really wish someone would just put a mirror in the green room like.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe, you know, didn't think about a mirror like maybe I should go to Walmart and like gift this bar a mirror.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so when somebody thinks of more things than you think of, I think it's very special.
[SPEAKER_03]: See, we're, we're, and we're so, I mean, like, most bands like we're super easy.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, man, you'll put red bulls in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you'll put energy drinks in, like, that's so awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, like at first, like I don't know if you saw the setup of like how they had a setup because the stage didn't spin.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they put Ace in the hole in the circle and then we were inside their circle, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: But like when we went to rehearsals they had a setup like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, why are we set up like this?
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, this is how you are going to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, well, hi.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, that's why Ace in the
[SPEAKER_03]: George is one of those musicians that he really cares about the people that paid money to come see him to the point that he has a microphone in each corner and he does like two to three songs each and goes to each side of the stadium to make sure everybody can see him like and everyone can see his body yeah and we you know he has his openers do the same thing I don't think he like makes the opener do that but he explains like I want the people that paid their hard money to come
[SPEAKER_03]: See the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want them to get everything they paid for and love that and it's just Ace in the hole and you know everybody is crew like Alan like all those guys like they're just so nice It's so accommodating and like do you need anything?
[SPEAKER_03]: We're like no, we don't need anything ever
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we will sit in our corner over here, but he sounded amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was my first time to ever get to see George live But yeah, it was awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: His dream is everything we wanted it to be in my mind Well, you deserve that and I live your journey and I forgot to tell Grace he might address Do you can you Instagram where I can she's coming here nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: You read the river with her
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw your picture.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we had a cancellation today and I saw Gracie the other day with with Tracy and she said I love just your podcasts and so we had a cancellation.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, hey, you want to come today?
[SPEAKER_01]: So last minute, I haven't done any research paranormal for her, but I love her and I know her so it's not.
[SPEAKER_03]: love her parents to like her mom like you know that's her daughter yeah she's serious about her daughter but uh I had just started with a backman and uh we're at uh I think it's the Toyota thing and Irving or whatever it is but either way they like had water burger for catering and Gracie walks up and I'm like dude what's up like Gabriel hugging everything and Esther how she's doing and
[SPEAKER_03]: She's she wandered off and then I didn't realize her mom was like right next to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And her mom just like looks up at me And she goes, how do you know my daughter?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I go we love Gracie like I play and she's like, okay
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I was like, though like I'm like three times her age bro, but no, I love her parents like they're they're really cool people very supportive of music, which is always cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what got me at the George straight show to see my mom.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was in the same room supportive and yeah, yeah, I'm sure it's scared them like everybody else's parents, you know when I started because she's like, dude, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I don't know, but I love it, but it's really fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and now we're making money in your opening for George straighters.
[SPEAKER_01]: Our our buses are parked next to each other minds and RV Yeah, but I did get a new trailer so I don't look like total junk.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice to you guys No, it was a little rough there for a minute.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we were joking about today with you know I was like well we could do only buses.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like back won't carry and I don't like we could just go on there And then I like looked up the locations like it's at the shop too
[SPEAKER_01]: No, the best wasn't there today because I wouldn't got the banner out and it wasn't there Yeah, I thought about leaving you like a present on the bus like hey a new hot here This is from mode, but then I thought I would offend everybody else if I only left you a present and not the rest of your video It would only be back.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it would be like
[SPEAKER_01]: What didn't she leave me one gave her a humidifier and she gave me anything and I just want to ask you last thing if you remember this but I just I just thought it was funny because Dalton days with you that's how I met you and that's how we became friends and we were playing show in our T-Gen New Mexico together and
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys were driving away and we like we had we had all stayed up pretty late, but I was there with my parents This is just my parents just struggling with me.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all we're all standing on the sidewalk and you guys are pulling out in the van I don't think y'all have been asleep and you like rolled down the window and you leaned over the driver's seat over doll And you're like Bye every bag well and done goes thanks for all the cocaine
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is obviously not true, but my mom and dad were like, what is that, and I was mortified.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Dalton, you little brat, both of you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dalton, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is, and everybody, like, you know, everybody wants to know, like, what he was like, when he drank his stuff, and I was like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I was like, there's not much difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, now he can like think out his pranks more, which is terrifying, I mean, he's got me with a few that like felt like real life scenarios.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, now I'll give you one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The whiskey Myers prank takes way longer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that the same show?
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause that's, we open for what you imagine.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, we were, we were doing the same run.
[SPEAKER_03]: We did with Turnpike.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll just tell you this one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Either way, um, so that night, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: Slam Jones had had a little bit of a bit to drink too, but we were roommates at the hotel and we walk out the next morning and there was a burking in the parking lot and we were like, dude, this never happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: We usually have to stop and nobody wants to stop.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, just me and Slam, we go to breakfast, we get in the van, I've volunteered to drive first, we always did like two hour shifts, especially when we go in like long distance.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was like, all volunteer to drive for us.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're in there listening or rap music and have her Burger King crowns at hats on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Go back a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had checked Dalton in front of Whiskey Myers because he slammed the van door on me when I was first getting out of it and he slammed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I guess he didn't mean to, but I, you know, I'm not tapped in pretty hard in front of everybody or everybody laughed at it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he started hatching this plane then.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Dalton comes in, we're listening to rap music.
[SPEAKER_03]: He throws the door open, just like super dramatic and mad.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know why he got slamming with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I need a complice.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, but like he was like, pointed slam Jones and he was like, what did you say to John Jeffers last night?
[SPEAKER_03]: I said he doesn't remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he does.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think I said anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he goes, well,
[SPEAKER_03]: their pants, they want to kick us off the tour all this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he goes, I'm just sitting there and listening to this and I knew it was coming.
[SPEAKER_03]: He goes, mode, what did you say to John Jeffers?
[SPEAKER_03]: I go, I told him that his solo was so hot that I had to fan it with my hat.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, didn't seem that mad about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fast forward, none of the whiskey miners guys know that this prank is going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, first person we see when we drive up is John Jeffers and he's doing the force gum way better.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I was like, that dude don't seem that mad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Either way, he gets a man on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nobody will talk to me like all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shannon Kennedy had just become our management at that time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh no.
[SPEAKER_03]: He got her involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, that's terrifying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Saying that, you know, we were...
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... rude to uh... bartenders we were not invited back to that venue anymore like i was falling around uh... uh... uh... tonic hint because tonic hints my hero like i love how he moves on stage and i was like i'm scared to talk to him why would i follow him around either way um... about thirty minutes before set time like me and same me and slamming went and had like dinner alone to just be like we're gonna quid drink in you know like all this stuff get it together
[SPEAKER_03]: 30 minutes before showtime like don't cause a meeting and I was like man, he's gonna run us up the wall right now Like I don't want to hear it right now like I'm already like motivated to like go off in the show This is gonna be the last show and he sits this down and he's like is everybody here like yeah And he goes just once you all know he was all fake
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just like, did as I you should have waited till after the show because I was like I'm gonna go out play whiskey Mars tonight, which is impossible But like they are the best be yeah, no, and then forever the guy's from whiskey miners called me stalker because like I was stalking Tony Kennedy But that just don't prank Dalton Domino ever like don't do it because his his retort will be Out of this world and super smart.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is so smart
[SPEAKER_01]: He has to make some mean steak one time he let us stay at his house and he cooked us steaks I thought that was so nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a good one But you know who's a good one?
[SPEAKER_01]: You, Michael Mood and I'm glad I think Gracie found her way Here's a extra stream from where we went to the river
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, perfect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she has a chakra on you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Speaking of stalkers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she's stalking me.
[SPEAKER_03]: My stalker's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been a long time coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just love you to death.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love you, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for doing this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait to see what you do next.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of things in store of Michael mode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stay tuned.