[SPEAKER_02]: Three years ago, me and Ariana made out in the swimming pool at the Golden Nugget.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that did happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Golden Nugget?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's like an all-time low.
[SPEAKER_03]: You kidding me, I love that place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure what I've done to you, but I'll think of a key upgrade to you.
[SPEAKER_03]: The only thing I have hold in me back is that I have to suffer back and take the knee.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's up, you guys?
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome back to the Pumpcast.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Maddie Drawspeck, and I'm Meguroko.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I, in the midst of re-washing this episode, was just reflecting on how much I miss old Twitter or the old internet etiquette in general.
[SPEAKER_03]: That era where it was normal to just tweet every single thought that entered your brain.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a really beautiful time to also be like a teen ageer.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, for sure because it was like you tweeting every thought that enters your brain as an adult.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like has consequences because you have a job in like real world responsibilities versus when I'm 12 tweeting everything that enters my brain.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like who gives it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's how I felt.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't cool enough to like have Twitter when I was younger, but I absolutely did that with like Facebook statuses.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every single thought.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like who's in my eight nine a bioclass the homework's
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like shit like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I miss when I used to be in fucking Twitter jail every day of the week because if you tweeted too quickly Too many times they would put you in jail.
[SPEAKER_03]: They would put you in jail and you like couldn't tweet anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was a big fan of live tweeting every like Grammy's VMAs Oscars everything I was in those drafts just absolutely
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, one word sentences everything literally every single thought inside my brain I was projecting that out onto the worldwide web.
[SPEAKER_03]: That digital footprint must go crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure I am fucking sure On accounts that I don't even remember the names of which is the most beautiful part
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know there's something so beautiful about like the early odds internet where it was like we were all still kind of figuring it out.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were all still pretty new to social media.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there weren't all these like ways to like game the system ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like wild wild west vibes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also missed those like...
[SPEAKER_03]: websites that have basically just disappeared into oblivion, but we're kind of the original ideas for a lot of more famous Internet applications or websites like do you remember daily booth?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, this was like Instagram before Instagram.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, and you I think you could only post one picture a day Awesome, and it was just a website Be me and my fucking webcam every day like
[SPEAKER_01]: Daily booth my daily booth of the day and then cake.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I always thought it was kick.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kick was something else.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, oh, and there's cake.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this just can't be cake with short videos.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was like before vine before tick talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I missed those days where everything was shiny and new and we were just posting everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: because there wasn't really a way going viral with so much of a rare.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also the idea of someone being a career content creator was just starting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was, I think it was like 2010 or 2011 when you started being able to earn ad cents on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like YouTube had been around for five years, but people aren't making money off it until later on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, around this time, but it's okay now people are starting to have careers online and people are trying to like be conscious of their image because they're becoming public figures versus just like your friend from high school that's on the internet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the behavior went through a shift, which is fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: It had to happen and I do miss those early internet days were absolutely anything went.
[SPEAKER_02]: I miss it a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whenever I walk to the subway in the morning, I always pass like a bunch of high schoolers who are like walking to the high school that's near me and I will inevitably see like multiple groups of kids like making TikToks.
[SPEAKER_02]: And certainly I've walked through so many times.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have them in the background where it's so hard to sleep, Meg, that'd be the funniest
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just me walking through the background.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like scrolling on TikTok and I just see like you with background.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just me in the background.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would fucking end like me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's certainly out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's definitely out in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think about that all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that kids are still kind of using the internet in the way that we used it when we were kids, but it just has such a different context now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there is something so much more intense about what kids put on the internet now, not to be like kids these days or whatever, but
[SPEAKER_02]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I feel like there were just so many more like protections for us when we were younger about like what we put online and like, oh, they're kid.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're just like tweeting out bullshit, whatever, but it's like, you got to be real careful about what you're putting online these days because it can all be found and accessed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, totally.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's so fascinating.
[SPEAKER_03]: People know how to work these things now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not new anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, but it's like you still have kids and young people who like don't necessarily have like computer literacy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and the way that we also we also didn't have computer literacy, but we weren't up against like the beast that the internet is now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, when I was bullying people on chat roulette, I wasn't being like secretly recorded.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you weren't being like surveilled in the way that people are now.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like freaky, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but God, I would I would give to bring back that Twitter era of people openly fighting on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fucking awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: So sick bring that back fight in public.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, please show me Like fight with your boyfriend on Twitter publicly Sweet back and forth fighting with each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see that so bad
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me in your business.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me see in my middle of your house.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well you guys fight if you're gonna post on Twitter and bite me to your house I'm either the zoom link.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna say anything unless I think it's really good It's okay, you can just buy a ring camera and give me access.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not gonna do anything Permit you just text me when you're fighting and I'll sneak right in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on and I'll sit quietly and then I'll applaud at the end Like I watched a movie at can
[SPEAKER_03]: 30-minute standing ovation for you fighting with your boyfriend via ring camera.
[SPEAKER_03]: Me and my living room.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like a peephole, but not pervy promise.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, one time I saw a massive fight out of a peephole.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I was at a hotel, whoa, that's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did a whole story time about this on YouTube.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna have to go on Earth that it's like Twitter Live.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was like, I remember it was at a hotel.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was in a room who just me and my sister.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think I was in college.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there was people having a massive fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: They were in the room next to us and they kept walking outside and they were really fistfighting.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm pressed up against the people watching it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then this was also Snapchat era.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I have my Snapchat going and I'm recording them through the people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had some awesome footage of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to go find it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so sick and awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw two old cab drivers get into a giant fistfight the other day in Times Square.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like the most over-simulated I've been maybe in a decade I was like leaving a shoot for work and it was me and two of my co-workers in an Uber and we were like all Smushed in this little mini van so hot outside.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also like had an asthma attack in the mini van
[SPEAKER_02]: And we were like crawling through time square in this uber and All of a sudden we hear like fighting behind us, and we turn and it's like two elderly cab drivers like both of them wearing like little muzee's caps Like arguing and like shaking their fist to each other and then one of them who swings on the other one and we go
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, yeah, and then they're like fighting and then one of them punches the other one and he like flies into our Oop like he lands and he like slams up against our Uber and we're like, oh my god And then our Uber driver grabs a grab is what we think is like what looks like a long night
[SPEAKER_02]: And we were like, we were like, oh, oh, and I go, oh, um, sir turns out it was actually just a shoe horn.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank God.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he used the shoe horn to just push the mirror that had gotten pushed in on the other side out when the guy had slammed into the Uber.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he wasn't going out to shank one of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my god, and I want to say I had started that job maybe five weeks before.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like I didn't know my coworkers that little at all and I was sitting there and also I was like crying because of my like asthma attack that I was trying to like hold in because I wasn't trying to cough on everybody and I was like
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, I really fucking crying laughing, we were bullshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of us were just like, whoa, no way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we were like, again, we were so like overstimulated by the time we got back to the office, we were like, do you guys remember when those guys were fighting?
[SPEAKER_03]: Guys, that was crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was crazy back then, like 17 minutes ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: A moment that really unites you with people.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of a sudden, you're like, me and these co-workers were in it now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, and it's like, again, imagine if that was all happening virtually on Twitter, where hundreds of us could watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's basically what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, fighting on Twitter is like the equivalent of fighting in Times Square.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get hundreds of people watching you being like, this shit is crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know it was like the, the smack cam base.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, smack cam.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess that, the smack can.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's like you're just getting hit out of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, so people can post it online.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just the shit's funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like, at the end of the day, what it all comes down to is just from a young age, I've known that I wanted to be in other people's business.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, true, God.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to be in your business.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me know your information and secrets.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which I feel like I'm very entitled to ask for because I be given my secrets out of way for free.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like it's a simple given take.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also I'm giving you guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: I give and give and give and give.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I I'm okay to request my take give back give back give me your drama and personal information.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's time to give back Tell me your drama you have a friendship fall out
[SPEAKER_03]: You know let me know you know that I like vaguely know you and your friend trust that I always want to know the story Yeah, bring it to me if you guys have been posting about like your boyfriend on your Instagram page for a while and all of a sudden You're not posting about him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me tell me why just DM me and tell me why cuz I am thinking about it I'm thinking about it a lot
[SPEAKER_03]: And even if I'm not thinking about it, make me start thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bring it to my attention and just give me something good.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's any level of gossip.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a guy that there was a guy that I went to high school with who on Instagram, I started noticing that he started wearing a bunch of different hats.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've been so locked into that hat evolution.
[SPEAKER_03]: So let's talk about the hat.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, you are making bolder and bolder choices with your hats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me every new photo that I see of you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me more about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: What happened?
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's this journey you're on?
[SPEAKER_02]: What is the process?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like what is the thought process?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a coming what what is it coming from?
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to know these people are always they they don't want to talk about themselves because they think that people don't care I care.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need you to know it's so the opposite.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need you to tell me every personal.
[SPEAKER_03]: You feel about yourself that is ever existed ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Tell me everything do not miss a single detail babe.
[SPEAKER_02]: Otherwise I will put a ring camera in your house
[SPEAKER_02]: And I will clap when the show's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like can.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like can, baby.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Pandora goes, good news.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mike is finally proposing to Shina, and Lisa goes, who's Mike?
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the fuck is Mike?
[SPEAKER_02]: And Pandora's like, Mike Shay?
[SPEAKER_03]: Lisa's like, Mike Shay.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, just now putting her in, they call him by his last name.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's me, it's me.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you mean Shay?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: His name is Mike Fox.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't need to know all that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was Mike Shay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That have to do with me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whoever the fuck that guy is.
[SPEAKER_03]: At least the opposite reaction of us.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, leave that information out when you're talking to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do not need to know that man's real name.
[SPEAKER_02]: Keep that to yourself, sister.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do not tell me next to his name is actually Michael.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't you dare.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you dare mention that to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Pandora is like, well, it's funny you should say that because they do want to do the proposal here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mike Shea, the one and only, has requested that I ask you, if maybe you would be okay, if he proposed to Shea and your backyard.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Lisa's like, okay, well, I'm just hearing about this Mike Shea character just now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't really know this man that well.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fine, I don't like it, but okay, and Pandora has this whole plan of a fake photo shoot that they're going to do for the divine addiction now that Stasi and Shena are getting along.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that this is how she can convince Shena to show up with the house and be all gorgeous and beautiful, and it's actually a secret proposal.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, it's perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Boof.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're at sur.
[SPEAKER_02]: Peter is setting up like the hunk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Peter read it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love for Peter extends into this episode as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then it sharply ends.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, a girl can dream.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone's back from Cabo and just bummed to be back to real life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stasi and Katie are setting up for the shift and Stasi mentions that she has not spoken of Kristen since the trip, but Katie has.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Katie's like, yeah, she's just kind of texting me the same old bullshit, like she doesn't want to break up with Tom.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thought of leaving him really scares her.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob, Bob.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is actually a couple that I could stand to hear less about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know we said we want to hear stuff, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: These guys, I could stand to hear less about.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I wanted to, I would want to hear about the first argument, but then you keep having the same one on a loop.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, well, we already did that.
[SPEAKER_03]: We already did the argument.
[SPEAKER_03]: Those plot points were already covered.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bring me something, bring me a new story now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Stasi is like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Christian acts like none of us could possibly understand what she's going through, which is true.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's said on multiple occasions that Stasi and Katie could possibly understand what she's going through.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Stasi's like, I have literally been there.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also my friends all abandoned me in the meantime she's like I quite literally was in this exact same situation Yes, no more than a year ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and I handled it and I chose to leave Jacks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it easy?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, did I do it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and you all were pitches to me while I did it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not doing it and we've been nicer to you
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what's so crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Booth over to the scene of the crime, Kristen and Tom's apartment.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are addicted to folding laundry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, just absolutely loving that life is nothing, but a cycle of laundry in this house.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cannot stop folding laundry.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen says that, in a talking head, sleeping with Tom and Cabo, wasn't us patching everything up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to be close to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, shocker, all their problems are still the fucking same.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen is like,
[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell that she knows that she needs to break up with top.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you can tell that she knows she's like, I think her body has actually accepted it, her brain has not.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she is like sobbing on the bed and is like, is like, I don't want to worry every time you're on the phone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't want to be stressed out about who you're texting and feel like I don't trust you and have all of this anxiety and stress and fear and Tom is like, yeah, that sucks.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, yeah, that sucks, make a choice, then literally.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen's like, I know what I have to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't want to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then he's like, but you don't have to do anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay, well, it's like really confusing to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what he is thinking inside his head at this time?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's like, forever.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, for how much shit people are giving Kristen for staying with Tom, uh, despite all the reasons they should break up and her not liking the way he treats her right Tom is
[SPEAKER_03]: At this point made a conscious choice to cheat on Kristen multiple times.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, why is he trying to save this relationship at all?
[SPEAKER_03]: Just fucking break up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't actually know clearly.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to be with her either.
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of wonder if it's like his Commitment to being viewed as like a good person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: But like that is completely an illusion that has been shattered.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, everyone knows that he's cheated on Kristen already.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone knows that he's like, it's bad to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, yeah, but I'm like, maybe it's because
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is still, they're so new to the world of being a public figure.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, this is gonna come back later when the tweets get brought up.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I was thinking like, at the time they're filming, I'm like, a season one is either currently airing or it's just finished airing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Tom gets a pretty good edit in season one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he does.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he hasn't necessarily experienced like the brunt of what the internet will do in response.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know you airing out your dirty laundry or whatever online.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that's why they're always doing laundry?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a metaphor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, the producers are geniuses.
[SPEAKER_02]: God, you guys are so smart.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'm like there's part of me that wonders if like the reason why he
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, thinks it's possible to maintain some type of good guy image is because that's what he was given in season one and he doesn't realize that season two he's already fucked.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could absolutely see that being like the reason why he's trying so hard to save face because it's like, yeah, what are you trying to like?
[SPEAKER_02]: salvage here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen says, I think we should just take some time apart and Tom is like, we don't have to spend time apart.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, it's like, okay, what do you want out of this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen goes, you know, I, I'm going to go to Michigan.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go home to Michigan for a few days, clear my mind, just whatever, I'll call you in a few days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tom seems like genuinely like mortally offended by the fact that she said he'll she'll call him in a few days.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, what?
[SPEAKER_03]: He goes, what?
[SPEAKER_03]: Which I just I gotta say it irks the fuck out of me when people can't go a couple days without talking to their Some of the other I agree and I there's some people that are gonna disagree with me on that I just find the like codependency of straight relationship specifically to be creating
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm also just like I'm so I am so bad at texting that I can't like maybe I would feel differently if I wasn't a relationship, but I really cannot wrap my mind around the fact of the like texting someone every day or like feeling beholden to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I barely text my closest family and friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: I currently have a voicemail in my phone from my aunt that I still need to listen to and respond to that she called me four days ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just haven't listened to her voicemail and sent her like call her back.
[SPEAKER_03]: My thing with couples is like, it's one thing to want to talk to your partner every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's another thing for it to be like a requirement for a rule, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Or something that's like a major like, what, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: The idea of going three days without speaking to them and you're bugging out, that I think is weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: especially like, I don't know, like if your partner is going specifically to like clear their head and spend time apart from you, then it makes sense that they wouldn't text you for a few days.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like in any context, I think if like a partner of mine was traveling or something, obviously I would want to know like that they got there and that they're safe and whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would also expect them to be like a little bit more away from their phone anyway because like they're traveling Totally that's fair.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're busy.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're off doing other things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you don't need to be in constant communication.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah I'm just always irked by couples that are so co-dependent like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think like also just anyone who expects Me to constantly be available on my phone.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I immediately have an aversion to Because I'm like no this god damn phone
[SPEAKER_02]: Because here's the thing, I am pretty much always on my phone.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing other stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so bad at responding to my texts.
[SPEAKER_03]: I always feel like evil about it because I'm constantly fucking posting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I am on the internet.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that everyone knows that it's like, that's my job.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on my job.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're witnessing me at my job.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't see you guys at your job.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, my job is very public.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like the idea of someone, I mean, the people have.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why you're responding to my texts?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm this is my job.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm at work.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm at work right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fuck.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in the office.
[SPEAKER_02]: So some really intense dramatic music starts, which boofs us all the way over to Sir Tom Clarkson for his shift.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, I'm just trying to work and get through my freaking shift.
[SPEAKER_03]: He like rocks up with his depression shades.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we've got like a Lincoln park
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, there's so much going on right now and I just need to get through my shift.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, yeah man, that's work.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's just like what going to work is like, there's other stuff happening and unfortunately you have to work, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Katie and Stasi and Jax are in Sir Ali.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Jax is,
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, for whatever reason, deciding that right now is time to tell Katie and Stasi the whole truth again.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what it is about right now that Jack's deems like, okay, I'm just going to come clean and say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's because he has already fully told Katie and Stasi the entire truth already.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he just says it again where he says,
[SPEAKER_02]: About Tom, I remember Tom and I were in the hotel and he was on his phone and I looked over and saw it was a photo of Ariana in a 90 and I was like, did you guys hook up?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like smiling looking at me and then he's like, don't say anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she's in her under things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Looking like a true lady of the night.
[SPEAKER_03]: A nighty?
[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, when I hear like nighty to me, I'm thinking like, I'm like a mumu.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, I'm seeing a mumu.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's not sexy.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: A nighty?
[SPEAKER_02]: And also, I'm like, does Ariana really, did she really like send a photo of her and like what, like a little teddy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I'm like, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, like a teddy thing to me is like,
[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: What lingerie is, what are we talking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why isn't she just sending a photo of her in her underwear?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't, I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, part of me is like, is she in Jackson's just calling it him?
[SPEAKER_03]: A lady?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's, I really believe that he is so, like, he booms out from time to time, and I wonder if this is an example of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: back inside Tom is still in his head while Lincoln Park music is playing in the background and he's like, listen, me and Kristen have had our ups and downs, but I've never seen her this ready to get away from me.
[SPEAKER_02]: All these problems come back to jacks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, he decides that the only thing he can do in this moment is confront him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I just wish all my friends will stop shitting on me and my relationship.
[SPEAKER_01]: all of these things, all of these problems go back to jacks, which is again, like Kristen loves to come to crazy conclusions and so does Tom, yes, completely.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, it is really so funny to see both Kristen and Tom be like,
[SPEAKER_01]: We know who the culprit of our terrible relationship is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jacks!
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like this is really the beautiful part of Vanderpump rules because when you have a cast full of villains, there's always someone better to blame.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and it's totally.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is why this show is the best reality TV show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: God damn Tom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, completely.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Tom storms out into Sir Ali and confront his best friend over these rumors that are floating around, which of course we have transcribed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_03]: To do a little scene for you guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But can I just say before we get into the scene?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom's sand of all opens this argument
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey pal, hey buddy, I heard what you were saying about me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just so goddamn silly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: This scene is very important.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's men fighting with each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: And boys should always fight with each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it's so funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it's so funny silly goofy when boys fight with each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because they're often really bad at it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: whoever plays jacks, yeah, should also play Stasi, okay?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then whoever plays Tom should also read the narration.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, would you like to be Tom?
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to be Tom, excellent.
[SPEAKER_03]: exterior, sir Ali Day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jack's Stasi and Katie are taking a break from work to gossip about the now confirmed by Jack's, Tom and Ariana cheating rumors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jack's is pacing around, shooting on sand of all, and debating what he should say to Kristen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom's girlfriend, when suddenly Tom walks out into the alley.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, buddy!
[SPEAKER_03]: He pauses for Jack's to respond.
[SPEAKER_03]: He says nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: My fucking relationship and my life is in fucking shambles right now because of you because of you man You who loves to tell granderist stories about fucking me why don't you go take care of this with your girlfriend not me Shut the fuck up jacks.
[SPEAKER_01]: It all comes back to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, jacks shrugs
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I would just fucking love Jacks.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would just fucking love.
[SPEAKER_03]: He slapped a metal rack holding a propane tank to show he means business and put on a show for his viewers at home.
[SPEAKER_01]: To fucking tell the world what a fucking piece of shit you fucking are, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can name me all you want, but I'm gonna be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: I never fucking said that to Jacks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thomas, of course, referring to the preposterous idea that he confided in Jackson about hooking up with Ariana well on a trip to Vegas three years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: As God as my witness on my mom and dad's life, as God as my witness on my mom and dad's life, I did not fucking say that to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just want something interesting to say to Stasi, so she'll actually listen to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You will do anything that fucking sound important to Stasi because you're fucking stupid and nobody gives a shit when you have to fucking say.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're upset.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It cuts to a confessional.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been trying really hard to keep this a secret, but some things are just need to come out.
[SPEAKER_02]: No matter how mad Tom is at me right now, I think deep down inside that he's kind of like relieved that it's all out there, and I think he kind of knew what he was doing when he told me this information.
[SPEAKER_02]: It cuts back to Sir Ali.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything comes back to you, Jacks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would actually love to just be like Christian, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I did it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to say that, but guess what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Ariana would say, Tom, you're fucking lying We nothing happened between us
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you understand Jacks?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, dude, I'm just- I can't do anything about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, then- Then what- what you told me was wrong.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have no reason to make this up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom's hand of all pouts and rolls his eyes profoundly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stasi sees her opportunity to chime in.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be so much easier for Jacks to just say, I made it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your relationship would be back together, you would be fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everything would be fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be a lot easier on him to say he made it up, and that's why it's very convincing that like, that had happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom turns to start talking to Jackson again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stop talking about me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stop talking about Kristen.
[SPEAKER_03]: She stayed the fuck out of my life, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not a problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stay the fuck out of my life.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not a problem.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom turns his back on Jacks and on their years of shared history and brotherly love and stomps back inside to serve to float with the customers at the bar of sex unique restaurant restaurant and lounge and scene I Love this so perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love when they're just
[SPEAKER_03]: Yellen and screaming at each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love man on man violence.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love when I love when these guys are just hoot and holler and because it's what they came here to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey buddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, buddy, I also love that like he for sure was like rehearsing all this shit for sure to himself and how he was gonna confront him it's so fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also feel like the longer we do is rewatch and we do Fuck in little impressions of these people every week.
[SPEAKER_03]: I realize it every time I do a Tom Santa ball impression He sounds like a self-parker character Every single time I can't help but like lean into like a little pissant kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, who's like hey, buddy
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, hey, why don't you stop bragging on me and my dad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I heard what you said about me and my fucking girlfriend I'm gonna punch you with a nut to me on the second Because it is it's like it's exactly what he sounds like he sounds exactly like it cuz it's also so funny when he's like
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like trying to be this guy who's having this really I believe what he thinks is like a quite a quite chivalrous moment Yeah, but he's still just so fucking stupid and also lying Yeah, none of it is genuine at all and him being like you're telling these granderist stories about hey what's that granderist?
[SPEAKER_02]: Granderist what is that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Have it to the dick
[SPEAKER_02]: pop that one right in the dick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Booth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Back over to Villa Rosa, and it's time for the big engagement.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Stasi, Ariana, Shay, Pandora, and Lisa are all here to make sure that she is special day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really special.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's Shay's big moment too.
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes, I'm okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a little nervous.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a little nervous.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this is like what the fuck you never saw.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean she's going to say yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like phoming at the mouth.
[SPEAKER_03]: They get married.
[SPEAKER_03]: She you know literally almost tried to make me look at wedding cakes for you guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Reengagement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody's super excited about the big plan and the big trick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I wrote down I don't really care about this proposal.
[SPEAKER_02]: She doesn't know how to tie a tie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah And
[SPEAKER_03]: What are we going to do about that America?
[SPEAKER_03]: Mike Shei, answer for your tie crimes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Sheenar rolls up with all of her photo shoot stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shei is trying on suit jackets.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stasi, who is operating under the guise that she is there for the divine addiction photo shoot, is getting ready with Sheenar.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they discuss that Kristen recently sent a text to Ariana, basically threatening her
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and they also discuss that they're pretty sure that Jackson Tom are never going to be friends again Yeah, I mean this text that Kristen sends Ariana is bananas.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's insane like knowing that Kristen already went straight to Lisa Yeah, to try to like get Ariana fired and now it's been a couple days since they're back from Covo.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously there's been no movement there
[SPEAKER_03]: So Kristen's like I'm gonna take matters into my own hands and I'm gonna tell Ariana that like she is not allowed to work with Tom anymore says me yeah and if she what she's saying she's like let me be very clear when I say do not ever text or call Tom ever again if you need a shift covered find a third party to contact him do not pick up a shift when he's working and be near him You fucked my boyfriend behind my back and lied to my face repeatedly
[SPEAKER_03]: Go off.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not an acceptable solution.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kristen, this is crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: This was crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a completely unreasonable thing to text Ariana.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the point blank, this is on reasonable point blank.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're out of line, sister.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stasi briefly mentions.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, I haven't heard from Jacks today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, like, what's wrong with him?
[SPEAKER_03]: Usually he's fucking texting me long stop and I finally have had peace in my phone for one day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, what's going on with him?
[SPEAKER_02]: more on that later.
[SPEAKER_02]: Back over in the wine cellar, Shay takes a massive shot of something, and he's talking about something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wrote down here, I'm not gonna lie, I genuinely just hear ocean sounds when Shay speaks, like truly I hear white noise.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think he is just drunk 24-7.
[SPEAKER_02]: He talks and my mind goes like completely blank.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like I cannot process a word of what it is saying is never quite two feet planted on earth.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think he's always on something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, whether it's alcohol or a different substance.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes
[SPEAKER_02]: The fake photo shoot begins, she comes out, he proposes, she's like, oh my god, of course I will, yay!
[SPEAKER_02]: She says yes, hooray, she's like, I'm engaged, I'm just smitten, perfect day, perfect guy, perfect ring!
[SPEAKER_02]: She's most excited about the ring, and she also says, I don't want to compare my relationships to my friends relationships, but winning!
[SPEAKER_03]: And Stossie's there, she's being really nice to Sheena.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, these are the moments I cherish.
[SPEAKER_03]: Me too, as both a Sheena fan and a Stossie fan.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Seeing my two divas unite and combine their joints lay like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really just swarms my heart.
[SPEAKER_03]: So beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Stossie mentions, she's like, I know that I probably should be being like mean or colder distant Ariana right now, but like,
[SPEAKER_02]: I've always really liked Ariana and honestly Kristen's kind of pissing me off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really have beef with Ariana, so Whatever, so that's then she's like and also this is about sheena.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is sheena's proposal Yeah, we're just gonna leave that for now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, which is awesome Because that's a reflection that Kristen would have never had nope Stasi being like now's not the time or place.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Kristen, who is several years older than her, trust the Kristen has never once thought to herself.
[SPEAKER_03]: This isn't the time or place.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's time and place.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you did it at my birthday, Jenner.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Boof, over to Stasi's apartment, Christina and Katie come over and they are chatting about the proposal.
[SPEAKER_02]: They saucy recaps the proposal for all of them and Kind of mentions again like I know it's kind of fucked up like we should be taking Kristen side and all this, but I'm looking at I'm not And they kind of search shit talking Kristen a little bit and mention that she has now since she has left for Michigan seemingly less than 24 hours ago
[SPEAKER_02]: She has started tweeting about and at Tom talking about their future children and how like they're so perfect for each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Katie's like, yeah, Chris and it's fucking annoying me.
[SPEAKER_03]: She keeps posting all these poof-ass tweets.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like weakness is giving up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Strength is sticking around.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like if my...
[SPEAKER_03]: one of my friends was in the most fucking bonkers relationship that I had ever witnessed in my entire life and then they get on twitter.com and they're like to be in this relationship is strength to break up with just be a weakness.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm literally blocking her.
[SPEAKER_03]: fucking instantly and saying, never talk to me ever again.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so fucking tired of this shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you can find a way to twist your boyfriend cheating and you choosing to stay as some sort of like grand gesture of love and strength and like the endurance of your love,
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, people are sick in the head.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just tell me you were lobotomized directly.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's fucking crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Stasi is like, chimes in in a confessional.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, I thought it was a good idea for Chris and to get out of town for a few days, but she wasn't even out of the fucking airport before she's tweeting about Tom, which again isn't sane because at this point they are public figures.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, they are,
[SPEAKER_03]: Season one is either currently airing or it's just finished airing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: These are now like public accounts.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's strangers are watching.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Kristen is on Twitter, saucy reads out two of her tweets.
[SPEAKER_03]: First tweet, Kristen wrote, my dad and Tom's mom have light eyes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it possible that we'll have dark-haired light-eyed children?
[SPEAKER_03]: Might I remind you, the last we have heard from Kristen was that she was going to go to Michigan for a total of three fucking days.
[SPEAKER_03]: to get away from Tom and clear her head.
[SPEAKER_03]: She has not even left the airport and she's tweeting about their potential children, having dark hair and light eyes, which also seems weirdly eugenic to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: A weird for so many reasons.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the next thing she tweets is, at Tom Sandball is the best boyfriend to live and we're both crackheads.
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: They're talking about how insane this all is, and then they mention once again that nobody's really heard from Jacks in a few days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what's wrong with that guy?
[SPEAKER_02]: And everyone's kind of like life is more peaceful without him here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been kind of awesome with Jacks going around out of him here.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's really nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the only other thing I wanted to mention about this scene is that there's like,
[SPEAKER_03]: a brief moment earlier on when Stasi is talking about Ariana, where she's like, okay, I like her a lot, but everyone knows I have a huge problem with home records, but people are saying that Tom had told her that he and Kristen had broken up or something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And since their friends, she had no reason to believe that he was lying about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why
[SPEAKER_03]: for the record I agree with to a point.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that being the other woman annoyingly doesn't constitute being a home record ever, however, if it was unknowingly when it happened, fine, at some point it became known, yes, that he was not single and Ariana chose to not only stay silent about it but remain his
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where I think the real problem comes in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: If he had lied to her and told her that he and Kristen were broken up when they hooked up in Vegas three years ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Once you find out and you choose to keep his secret and maintain a friendship with him, I think that's weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's definitely like, I just, I don't think that Ariana is a, um, is like a perfect person and all of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that she pulled some shady shit and managed to kind of get away with it because, you know, Kristen was being insane enough for the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but I do agree that like I think that Ariana was,
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just clear that Ariana had feelings for Tom and just was hoping that, you know, one day, they'd be able to get together.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tom also obviously had feelings for Ariana too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, so yeah, I don't think that the way that she went about it was the move.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, not at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jinks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_03]: or it's a boof.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're at Sir and Lisa's here and Peter really wants to have a chat with her about Cabo.
[SPEAKER_02]: He basically feeds information to her about what happened to Cabo and is like, you know, Kristen and Tom, I don't know if they should be working together, I don't know if Ariana and Tom should be working together, I don't know if Kristen and
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ariana should be working together like maybe this is we should just be set we should separate them and I really know and Lisa's like well, it's funny you say that because Kristen did call me and give me an ultimatum about whether it was her or Ariana and Peter's like what she did what sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love these scenes because Peter is so weird, he's such a weird guy, but when you hold him up against everyone else at Sir, he's like the most normal one with like the hat on a good hat on his shoulders.
[SPEAKER_02]: purely because he like understands what the concept of a job is.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like But you shouldn't give your boss an ultimatum.
[SPEAKER_02]: At least it's like correct Peter.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now that's good Peter great job great job Peter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're one of my brightest.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm giving you a sticker
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's a star, I am so strange and Lisa's like, you know, I don't even really know if I wanted to come back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, it's been really nice that she's been in Michigan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, probably the best way to deal with her is to just ignore her right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're just going to let this sit and everyone's like, okay, sounds good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Boof.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are back at
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really know why, but she's there talking to Tom.
[SPEAKER_03]: My hypothesis is that Tom came to producers and was like, I want to give a confession and they were like, okay, do a distasi.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really feel like he probably was like, I want to have this conversation and then they were like, okay, Stasi's the one you're going to do this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: because it is such a weird rhythm to this scene because she's literally there for like two seconds, like sitting at the table and is like, okay, can you please just tell me what's going on?
[SPEAKER_02]: And all of a sudden, it just like cuts to Tom going three years ago, me and Ariana made out in the swimming pool at the Golden Nugget.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that did happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh it's just he goes the golden nugget.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's like an all-time low.
[SPEAKER_03]: You kidding me?
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that place
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's so earnest about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of a sudden he like snaps out is realizing that he's like confessing to the like pretty big news.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, you kidding.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, like he's rocked his like acting moment has happened already.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's like, what do you kidding?
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that place.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I figured love to go to that guy with the hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Stasi, of course, is like.
[SPEAKER_02]: What the fuck man, like how could you just watch Kristen break like that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like over at she's her point isn't even necessarily like, you know, how dare you about like making out with Ariana, probably because she knows that he's also cheated to worse levels already.
[SPEAKER_02]: Her point is like, you've basically been putting Kristen through hell, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Telling her over and over again that she's crazy that everyone's making it up that it's a lie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how could you do that to someone that you supposedly love?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, for weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Knowing that it was alive this whole time and lying to all of us like you're a pretty fucking good liar because You have been putting on this act for a really long time and Tom's like And and Stasi's like what was this all for like to protect Ariana and Tom's like no no it was For a lot of reasons
[SPEAKER_03]: doesn't really tell us what those reasons are.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he doesn't care to indulge this conversation deeper because the summary that he needs Stasi to know is that he's already told Christmas and everything's fine now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: They've magically solved it all and they've just snapped their fingers and everything's better now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Stasi's like this makes no goddamn sense to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, how did you just become great like literally 24 to 48 hours ago?
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're still talking like this is the end of your relationship and suddenly you've confessed to kissing Ariana in the pool at the Golden nugget three years ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kristen has accepted that this is the truth and it was only a kiss three years ago, and that's it and suddenly you guys are fine Right like this just doesn't make any fucking sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mind you.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is all still happening in the span of time Where Kristen is supposedly getting space from Tom in Michigan right like this is all happening within Within less than three days of each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then turn the timing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were supposed to not speak to each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have now like confessed all of this to Kristen and said that it's fine
[SPEAKER_02]: And Stasi's like, this doesn't make any fucking sense, and Tom's like, can we just fucking stop talking about this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why should your hands have this stop talking about us?
[SPEAKER_02]: Stop it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, okay, you brought it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Once again, what's up with all these men bringing shit up and then being like, okay, enough already about the thing that I brought up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like can we just stop talking about it?
[SPEAKER_03]: you were the one who brought it up right you said you wanted to talk about it and so she's like bottom line you made out with Ariana and you've been on a rampage saying the jacks made all this shit up yeah in terms like well no I didn't actually lie because and jacks did lie because I it wasn't behind a port of body and we didn't grind a Coachella not never happened right and it's like okay okay well we're nitpicking here
[SPEAKER_03]: In my opinion, it was way more than just a kiss of the Golden Nugget.
[SPEAKER_03]: The more shorty, the kiss of the Golden Nugget is not the only thing that happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Even if, let's say that was the only act of physical cheating, there has absolutely been emotional cheating that's been happening this whole entire time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this becomes evident in how quickly Tom and Ariana end up starting to date.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Spiders.
[SPEAKER_03]: Painting.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's definitely more at play here that everyone is down playing and I wouldn't be shocked if they did make out at Coachella and grind and do all the things the jacks said they did yeah on top of the golden nugget stuff I would not be surprised at all if they had had like some sort of brief affair yeah or like sporadic completely I don't think that it's just the kiss at the golden nugget no you can't convince me of that for even one second Not not a shot
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so Booth, really quickly, we're at a fucking hotel pool and the girls and boys of sur are playing chicken.
[SPEAKER_02]: They mentioned how sick it is that they work at night because they get to fucking hang out during the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stasi says we might not be rich with money, but we are rich with awesomeness.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: Boof, over to Sir, Kristen is back.
[SPEAKER_02]: She says that going home to Michigan was definitely what she needed.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was an emotional detox, and also she hopes Ariana Burns and hell.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, I've got a totally clear head after going to Michigan, and again, the conclusion I have come to is that I want to kill Ariana with a gun, and that she is the source of all my problems.
[SPEAKER_02]: So keep that in mind, that's coming back around soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, Lisa and Ken roll up to Jacks who's working at the bar and everyone's kind of like, hey, Jacks, like long time no see, you know, haven't seen you in a while and he goes, hey guys, so I've actually been in jail.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_03]: that's awesome can is literally laughing at him like he's his own personal little entertainment doll yeah and Lisa keeps looking at can be like do you believe this and can's going no no it's honestly like the most animated we've seen can yeah this entire show 11 this he's like this is awesome you're such an idiot I don't believe a word of this but Jack says that he got pulled over driving home from work on Saturday and
[SPEAKER_03]: And some warrants came up from a couple of years ago because apparently he didn't finish his community service right so they threw him in jail for Four days or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh long weekend.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah Nobody gives a single fuck about this and then Lisa was like you got a fucking phone call.
[SPEAKER_03]: He did not call anyone Jeff like I don't know any numbers I know a call
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like Duke on it like this is being filmed on the 2014 right you don't have a single number Memorize one number like you're again stocies literally anyone anyone Number and like if you have your parents number Memorize and you can call them I feel like can you contact one of my LA friends right ever right anybody's number nope
[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: He knows nothing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And another part of the restaurant, Sheena walks up to Ariana.
[SPEAKER_02]: Goes this is still like Contia first.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like one word, question mark after it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tom?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why didn't you tell me that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so iconic.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ariana's like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would I tell you like why would I tell you that and she was like, well now I look like a liar and Ariana's like listen I didn't want to put you in a weird position where you would have to lie to people like I just figured it would be easier to keep this to myself I didn't want to have to throw Tom under the bus bubble.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate this reason.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need to.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's super, super dumb.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why would you tell your best friend the truth about this major thing that's going on?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why would you not lie to your best friend?
[SPEAKER_03]: I can think of a couple good reasons.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ariana is like this was a really small thing, but it was a huge thing for Tom and it's a huge deal for Kristen and now she seems to care more about that than everything else bad that's gone on in her relationship.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like pretty dismissive.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, it's not a small thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like I think that because it's they're fixating on like it's just a kiss that's the story they've chosen to tell people which again, I don't believe it was just a kiss, but let's entertain this for a second, even if it was just a kiss, that is still cheating and Kristen is very much allowed to still be upset about that has Kristen gone above and beyond in the ways she has chosen to express her.
[SPEAKER_03]: anger and sadness at the ways Tom is treated her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, she has.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: And don't be so dismissive of the fact that something bad did happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this was wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, this was totally wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that Ariana gets away with it more Scott Frieden.
[SPEAKER_03]: She should because Kristen has such an overblown reaction.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, too literally everything that happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: to her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ariana actually says something sort of, uh, you know, connected to this and her confessional.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, Chris is such a bad victim.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, she is, she is the victim in a lot of this, but she's so fucking weird about all the ways she chooses to process it, that she almost like loses people that would have been on her side because of how she chooses to process her feelings.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which,
[SPEAKER_03]: is true and also hearing Ariana say that kind of made me go, oh yeah, just because Kristen isn't the perfect victim doesn't mean that she doesn't get
[SPEAKER_03]: empathy when you find out that her boyfriend actually did she don't her for the umpteenth time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it also doesn't mean that Ariana's the victim.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I think that almost that Kristen almost like because she is so intense about everything like people almost treat it like all poor Ariana Christians being so mean to her and it's like okay we'll know like Ariana did do a bad thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: She did.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's not the victim in this.
[SPEAKER_02]: She is actually the perpetrator of this bad thing totally.
[SPEAKER_02]: We know that Kristen is kind of going cook a bananas mode about it, but that doesn't mean that it's a challenge.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also it's the idea that like Ariana has to remain loyal to her friend Tom.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your friend, Tom, cheated on his girlfriend with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And your conclusion at the end of all of that is that you have to remain loyal to your friend, Tom, who cheated.
[SPEAKER_03]: And let's say he did lie to you and say that he was broken up when he wasn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to be friends with a man that would do that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to his girlfriend.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then when I was first watching this for the first time, like, I knew about Skandvall.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Before starting to watch Vanderhump.
[SPEAKER_03]: And when I'm watching this, I was having moments where I was like, God, this is true about many people who are the other woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: The man they cheat with will treat them differently, yeah, then he will cheat the woman that he cheated on originally and I think Ariana suffers from the same thing, especially in the earlier seasons where she's so like I'm a guy's girl, I'm for the boys, she's, you know, protecting Tom as her friend, letting him get away with cheating on Kristen doing it with him, yeah, brushing it off like it's no big deal.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it surprising that Tom ends up cheating again in the future on Ariana?
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, because he is a cheater and he was a cheater from the start of your relationship with him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, Skana falls a whole thing in and of itself and that's years down the line at this point, but it is interesting to watch the beginning of Tom and Ariana's relationship, realizing that it was founded on cheating.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ariana making excuses for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: and Tom taking no accountability for it at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not surprising.
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, Stasi rules up to Jack still at the bar, and it's like, hey, how are you?
[SPEAKER_02]: And Jack's goes, not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in jail for four days.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Stasi goes, that totally sucks.
[SPEAKER_03]: She kind of loves it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's like wears this along.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Put him behind those bars.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, maybe this is your sign that you need to start being a good person.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Jackson's like, I have been a good person.
[SPEAKER_02]: The last week, two weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been great and it's like no the fuck you have no you have what two weeks are you remember my last memory of you is showing up to my birthday pirate ship with a fucking hero of women you know remind me how you were being a good person in that instance so they're having a little laugh over at the bar and over in a different part of Sir Kristen walks up to Peter and is like where's Ariana
[SPEAKER_02]: Peter's in the back and she marches up to Ariana and is like, I don't want you working here anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bold.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a bold move.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see how it plays on.
[SPEAKER_03]: You hooked up with my boyfriend and you lied to my face.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't work here anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Get out bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ariana, again, it's like, I don't, I don't like the way that she handles this at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she's playing it like way to relaxed and chill.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, bro, like your anger is super misguided right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, you guys don't make it with your bros like sorry freaking do I'm not gonna throw my brother under the bus every made out with me Oh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm one of those cool chill girls who's not gonna like throw my bro under the bus after I make out with it Yeah, sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometime my bros suck on my toes I'm not gonna tell everyone about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you Here's the thing that you don't understand about being a chill girl Kristen is that being a chill girl means that it's like cool to have sex whenever with whoever you free to watch including your boyfriend Kristen
[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be a chill girl if I didn't have sex with your boy friendly and on the end of the day like I'm never gonna rat out one of my boys like that's my boy right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're just some fucking woman.
[SPEAKER_03]: You wouldn't understand brotherhood if it hit you in the face.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just simply wouldn't understand she thinks she's at like the fucking round table that she's lands a lot and Tom's and King Arthur What the fuck are we talking they're fraternity brothers.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like I'm pledging my allegiance to Kappa fucking six Kappa six sandival and that means that we Never rat on another boy if I know my boy is bang in another chick and if that chick happens to be me guess what I'm riding with him till the day I die
[SPEAKER_02]: I rat and bro, that's not true.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen, understandably, does not take this very well.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tom comes up and kind of starts trying to be like, hey, Kristen, like, you know, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: They look over here, but also he's too much of a whim to be like, look over here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like, forget about Ariana, blah, blah, blah, and Kristen goes, she's the cunt who hooked up with my fucking boyfriend.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this whole thing is not going over well because, I mean, Tom Sandwell has now made a critical mistake.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: He walks up on Kristen arguing with Ariana and he decides to also argue with Kristen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And protect Ariana.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Coming at Kristen because she's the louder one and the one who's screaming and calling Ariana Contan all of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not saying the Kristen is handling this well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, Kristen has never handled this well from the start.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep, but Tom's animal walks into this conversation.
[SPEAKER_03]: He makes the choice to not argue on behalf of his girlfriend or even try to reason with her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just jumps in and also starts yelling at her.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Kristen now feels like not only is she arguing with Ariana for making out with her boyfriend, but she's also yelling at her boyfriend who is now defending Ariana from Kristen yelling at her for making out with her boyfriend.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, are you fucking serious right now?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you saying anything?
[SPEAKER_02]: Truly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like why are you in it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you a part of it now?
[SPEAKER_02]: Across the restaurant, China is showing off her ring to Katie and Jack's and Peter and Katie immediately changes the subject to how Jack's is weekend was in jail.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because she doesn't give a fuck about the fact that she doesn't engage.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: She doesn't engage.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, so back to the fact that Jack was behind bars this weekend, I don't know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Jackson's like, yeah, I was scary.
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially for God.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she and it goes, yeah, how does your ass feel today?
[SPEAKER_02]: God, but early early 20 10s humor is tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: So.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Ariana Kristen Tom fight is still happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ariana kind of goes over to Stasi and is like recapping everything to Stasi and is like, yeah, Kristen's like freaking out.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, but, but, but, but, but all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kristen then walks up to Stasi and Ariana Katie is now also there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen is kind of just like,
[SPEAKER_02]: blowing up kind of generally at everybody in her in her direction.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And is yelling at Stasi is yelling at Katie.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is really, really pissed everybody in Katie's like, I have done nothing but have your back for three years straight.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is fucking exhausting.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen is like, I can't do this anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Katie's like, tell me about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Kristen's like pissed that Stasi and Katie are defending Ariana.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And trying to get Kristen to calm down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kristen's like, what have I ever done to any of you?
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, are you fucking kidding me?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you get be serious.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be here all night for even a second.
[SPEAKER_03]: If we need to start rattling it all off, we just want to have the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Katie and Stasi are like, listen, we don't know how to be around you anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, this is a completely toxic situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as they're saying that, Tom is like standing behind this group of women, just like watching this whole thing, like some evil demon, just...
[SPEAKER_02]: surveying all of them and just like be like he has his claws in Kristen in such an insane and intense way and it's just so clear that even in that moment he is being manipulative purely by the fact that like he refuses to let them have this conversation without him being there and like witnessing what's happening and Kristen once again says that she is so done
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and that she's so pissed at all of them and that she doesn't want to do this anymore and Stossies like them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we shouldn't all be friends.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're fighting so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think people do this regularly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is getting to be a little crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Kristen storms off.
[SPEAKER_03]: At the end of this whole argument, Kristen has absolutely zero people on her good side.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's mad at Tom for not defending her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's now, you know, mad at Ariana still.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's mad at Stasi and Katie for defending Ariana.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm on nobody's side.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ultimately, or I'm on Stasi and Katie's side.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I salated from Ariana.
[SPEAKER_03]: Stasi Katie totally understand their perspective.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I completely understand it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I have been the friend in this situation where I'm like, girl, we have had the same conversation 20,000 times.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like at some point you either need to like shit or get off the pot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like decide decide that you're either going to be miserable and stay with him or like break up with him.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are so done.
[SPEAKER_02]: and at the end of the night, Ariana and Stasi come up to Lisa as everyone's kind of closing out and they recap what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: They recap the entire fight and you know how kind of vicious Kristen was being and all this stuff and Stasi's like, I'm sorry but I genuinely don't understand how she sells job here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which is awesome as like one of Kristen's best friends being like how the fuck is this bitch employee right like this is insane And Lisa's like well, okay, I haven't caught her behaving badly, which is not true Which is not true Like she has caught Kristen behaving badly on multiple occasions literally in like last episode or two episodes ago Lisa was having a conversation with Kristen in Sir Ali about this very thing
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it managed her for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like she has fully had managed her for her about behavior.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like I don't know why she's saying this now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, you girls go off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll deal with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Stasi's like, good luck.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, you know, Stasi, that's one thing I don't need.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the end of season two episode 12 people what a wild ride I can't believe we're like coming up on the end of season two I'm actually shocked kind of crazy we've got two more episodes and then we're out there reunion I know which this kind of serves as a nice reminder point that.
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