WEBVTT 00:00.537 --> 00:06.601 [SPEAKER_00]: Hello everyone, welcome to this week's episode of The Good, the Bad, and the Hungi, an AW podcast. 00:06.621 --> 00:08.022 [SPEAKER_00]: Here are the voices of wrestling network. 00:08.102 --> 00:08.703 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm Fred. 00:09.003 --> 00:10.204 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going solo today. 00:11.245 --> 00:14.347 [SPEAKER_00]: Mr. Tyler is off doing actual work. 00:16.088 --> 00:18.670 [SPEAKER_00]: Wow, I'm taking a break from my actual work to do this show. 00:19.311 --> 00:21.532 [SPEAKER_00]: Apologies for the inconsistent schedule recently. 00:21.612 --> 00:23.333 [SPEAKER_00]: Basically, I am buried in work. 00:23.834 --> 00:24.334 [SPEAKER_00]: It sucks. 00:25.035 --> 00:26.656 [SPEAKER_00]: And I ain't going to get better before the interview. 00:29.038 --> 00:34.442 [SPEAKER_00]: If you are one of the three people that like this show, apologies, it's going to be like this for a touch longer. 00:34.942 --> 00:37.724 [SPEAKER_00]: I am working on a special treat, hopefully, that works out next week. 00:38.745 --> 00:45.229 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to keep that close to the best just in case it doesn't work out, because I am a coward. 00:45.929 --> 00:49.292 [SPEAKER_00]: I figured this week, we're just going to kind of do some quick hitter stuff. 00:49.352 --> 00:54.855 [SPEAKER_00]: Hit the news, go talk briefly about the last couple episodes of Dynamite, I feel silly talking about the pay for you. 00:55.276 --> 00:56.056 [SPEAKER_00]: Hey, for you was great. 00:56.156 --> 00:57.057 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone knows it was great. 01:01.517 --> 01:03.739 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that I really have much to add to that. 01:04.479 --> 01:15.327 [SPEAKER_00]: Oddly, I mean, I thought it was really had tremendous depth, but I don't think it really had a true match of the year candidate on it, it had several that might appear like in the 10 spot, I guess, on a top 10 list for me. 01:15.448 --> 01:21.672 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think by the year, and I don't know if any of them will be on my top 10. 01:21.932 --> 01:24.114 [SPEAKER_00]: I understand other people feel more strongly about it. 01:25.055 --> 01:27.897 [SPEAKER_00]: I also feel very silly that that is apparently 01:29.093 --> 01:33.735 [SPEAKER_00]: Not good enough for me to feel like it's a no doubt to head out of dead show. 01:36.036 --> 01:41.799 [SPEAKER_00]: As my cat tries to climb over stuff that shouldn't this has been a constant theme for the day. 01:41.879 --> 01:43.160 [SPEAKER_00]: Corporal cuddling is engaged. 01:43.860 --> 01:46.502 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like I think it was a fantastic show. 01:46.642 --> 01:52.585 [SPEAKER_00]: I just now part of it is that I broke it up over multiple viewings because again my schedule is hell currently. 01:53.471 --> 01:58.755 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think that if I'd sat it down, I would have felt more strongly about it being a 10 out 10. 01:58.795 --> 02:00.116 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'd be as objectively, I think. 02:00.657 --> 02:05.280 [SPEAKER_00]: If you look at just the list of matches on and how great these matches were, I think you'd be hard-pressed. 02:05.320 --> 02:08.142 [SPEAKER_00]: And not say it was a 10 out of 10 level show. 02:10.944 --> 02:14.207 [SPEAKER_00]: Pascal with Dynamites, I thought the first one was fine. 02:15.348 --> 02:20.492 [SPEAKER_00]: Last week's May, whatever it was, I don't know how dates or numbers were coming in. 02:21.315 --> 02:27.219 [SPEAKER_00]: May 27th, I thought it was perfectly fine, like, very little messy on it if anything. 02:27.259 --> 02:40.467 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the Mark Davis Jack Perry matches, like a low-level notebook match for stars more through time, but I definitely don't think there was much on it that was tremendous outside of that. 02:40.507 --> 02:47.391 [SPEAKER_00]: Some decent promos, no matches that really stunk or anything like news assures, that's 02:50.978 --> 02:57.001 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was bookmarked by a couple very strong matches, and honestly had a couple other very good ones in between. 02:57.921 --> 02:58.721 [SPEAKER_00]: Rouge M.J.F. 02:58.761 --> 03:03.403 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought was a four-and-a-quarter-star-and-level match, a really great work there. 03:04.043 --> 03:11.947 [SPEAKER_00]: Rouge stepped up by a big spot, and M.J.F., look at, you know, say what you will, that is creative at points. 03:11.987 --> 03:19.650 [SPEAKER_00]: God knows I have, I think he is a tremendous in-re-worker, and I think it's kind of hard to nodded at that, at least, and I thought he showed it here. 03:21.577 --> 03:24.840 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought Mark Davis Hospital was a really strong kind of schmoss main event. 03:26.421 --> 03:39.751 [SPEAKER_00]: Now this isn't going to go down as like a mac classic and a bunch of people freaked out when In the observer this week at the end it did, they did give it five and three quarter stars which sounds completely insane to me but then I reached out today. 03:39.951 --> 03:43.633 [SPEAKER_00]: That sounds crazy, it sounded and clarified that that was a typo. 03:44.034 --> 03:49.738 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the proper rating is four and three quarter which is, you know, within the realm possibility I think that's not insane to give it. 03:50.823 --> 04:06.273 [SPEAKER_00]: But I also get if you didn't like the match because it was a lot of interference and I mean it was you know I personally am of the opinion that every once in a while you can do an attitude Aristotle like run-in-fest as a treat I definitely wouldn't want that like on a weekly basis 04:07.033 --> 04:09.877 [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think they've done that in a long time, so it's all right. 04:11.940 --> 04:13.242 [SPEAKER_00]: So it didn't bother me. 04:13.282 --> 04:16.446 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought the work was strong in between and that the run-ins were fun. 04:16.626 --> 04:20.391 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I enjoyed it, but again, I'm not going to quibble with anyone that didn't. 04:22.363 --> 04:23.584 [SPEAKER_00]: uh, put down four and a half of that. 04:24.565 --> 04:30.731 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I thought the Bailey night match was, again, a low level milk match for stars. 04:31.151 --> 04:34.514 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I would be disappointed that is the blow off of that storyline. 04:35.075 --> 04:42.462 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't know if they're going to do like, uh, pull out uh, Julan's favorite reference here at Rick Martell Tito Santana where they hate each other for the rest of their lives. 04:42.502 --> 04:44.824 [SPEAKER_00]: So, hey, look, we'd be pretty cool. 04:45.543 --> 04:57.071 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I do hope that is not like the entirety of the storyline that it's not just, uh, well, Kevin night beat Mike Bailey on the dynamite and, uh, that's it. 04:57.192 --> 05:01.775 [SPEAKER_00]: That's over, Mike Bailey is in the midcard for the rest of his life, and Kevin night is moving on up. 05:02.595 --> 05:05.758 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there would be a disservice frankly to Mike Bailey use a fantastic worker. 05:05.778 --> 05:07.679 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, he's been a great promo. 05:07.699 --> 05:09.520 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been all right the past few weeks. 05:09.560 --> 05:11.462 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like doing all right, but, um, 05:12.977 --> 05:26.003 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I mean, maybe that's like the cap of his promo abilities, but, yeah, I still think he's good enough that you should be regular presence on TV and like something of a player had a minimum, a good TNT level champion. 05:27.304 --> 05:30.426 [SPEAKER_00]: Mercedes-Mode returned in a pretty good match against Alex wins. 05:30.446 --> 05:36.309 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it was a touch short, and maybe left some stuff on the table, but still was a good match. 05:37.009 --> 05:38.490 [SPEAKER_00]: As the cat jumps on me again. 05:39.050 --> 05:41.191 [SPEAKER_00]: This is the second time in case you can track. 05:43.170 --> 05:58.219 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I thought Mercedes looked nice and certain wins or I thought they both had put on good performances and it was a, you know, best ones who've actually had them TV in a few weeks, I think, at least, less, I'm forgetting something, which is entirely possible. 05:59.540 --> 06:01.862 [SPEAKER_00]: Leo Rush, stop it. 06:03.343 --> 06:04.864 [SPEAKER_00]: Not two in this, we, I don't want this. 06:05.384 --> 06:06.385 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who needs this. 06:08.046 --> 06:11.428 [SPEAKER_00]: This is one of those things that's gonna, I think, look better in, 06:13.825 --> 06:21.091 [SPEAKER_00]: jiff form and people like retweeted be like oh this is story teller but in actuality like I think it sucks. 06:21.111 --> 06:22.052 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm a real rush fan. 06:22.072 --> 06:23.313 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a fantastic worker. 06:23.333 --> 06:29.498 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's tremendously athletic and really impressive in how he uses that athleticism. 06:29.538 --> 06:31.299 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean you can still see that in this gimmick. 06:31.339 --> 06:34.402 [SPEAKER_00]: Like when he's doing the for lack of a better term. 06:34.422 --> 06:35.563 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how I'll describe it. 06:35.603 --> 06:38.525 [SPEAKER_00]: The the bucking horse run around the ring. 06:38.585 --> 06:39.506 [SPEAKER_00]: Like that's hard to do. 06:39.906 --> 06:41.688 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really you know 06:43.772 --> 06:44.612 [SPEAKER_00]: physically challenging. 06:44.652 --> 06:56.055 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd have to think to be able to do that and make it not look like crap, and I think he does that, and you know, that's cool, but like the gimmick as a whole is just very kind of cringy. 06:56.115 --> 06:56.535 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 06:57.455 --> 06:58.415 [SPEAKER_00]: Kind of kick the cat out. 06:58.795 --> 06:59.795 [SPEAKER_00]: Had enough of that nonsense. 07:00.516 --> 07:03.556 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I like this week's episode of Diamond quite a bit. 07:03.836 --> 07:04.776 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was a really good show. 07:05.517 --> 07:07.817 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, no thoughts on collision because I have not watched it. 07:08.357 --> 07:10.598 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, sorry, out of time. 07:13.633 --> 07:13.899 [SPEAKER_00]: Um... 07:18.917 --> 07:27.820 [SPEAKER_00]: I just saw, sorry, I got distracted by a tweet which could take the text, a Chinese robot wearing a clown wig kicked a child in the stomach. 07:28.381 --> 07:31.362 [SPEAKER_00]: If that's not gonna make you stuff of whatever you're doing, I don't know what will. 07:31.942 --> 07:38.804 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, but yeah, that's kind of my thoughts on the episodes of Dynamite that have taken place last couple of weeks. 07:38.824 --> 07:44.647 [SPEAKER_00]: Very excited that they're gonna run Cincinnati, a place like a dust instantly go to, but don't have time to hooray me. 07:46.715 --> 08:09.789 [SPEAKER_00]: Let's see, okay, let's get on to the actual news about a W. I think the bigger story, maybe, is that a W. Is planning on running a Renesy O'Dodham, Excursity, right before, I think it's the week before the anniversary of your show for CMLL, and the same day, they're also running NXT great American Bash head to head with forbid and door, because I worked great last time. 08:11.591 --> 08:12.891 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why they're bothering with that. 08:16.807 --> 08:35.498 [SPEAKER_00]: with the, uh, is your running, uh, to the AAA show, um, this is a triple mania, uh, maybe they'll accomplish something against Anniversary, because God knows they've got the knives out of Mexico now for CMLL, because God forbid anything isn't just, uh, globalized, uh, anyways. 08:36.859 --> 08:42.423 [SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know that they're going to actually accomplish what they want to with this, uh, 08:43.857 --> 09:01.582 [SPEAKER_00]: with running head to head against great american bat or with great american bash against forbidden door because you know last year failed now maybe with it not being uh... wasn't i think it's all in last year uh... with it not being the big taxis show maybe being a smaller show it will have a little bit more of a fact that i'm really doubtful on that 09:02.563 --> 09:05.245 [SPEAKER_00]: And I just think they're doing a disservice to their customers. 09:05.265 --> 09:08.929 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's who would be interested in watching both. 09:09.909 --> 09:12.371 [SPEAKER_00]: And not everyone's going to choose due to be in that scenario. 09:12.411 --> 09:20.558 [SPEAKER_00]: So it just feels like, you know, feels really unnecessary and not beneficial even to them. 09:20.858 --> 09:30.867 [SPEAKER_00]: So I don't get it, but that is the traditional thinking of you got to run opposition and just hurt the other people because, you know, if you're doing that, then you're definitely helping yourself. 09:32.150 --> 09:54.106 [SPEAKER_00]: business genius, um, so, um, scroll and past that in the user, we're just seeing if there's any other news stories, um, Grace LeMexco has been announced for August 5th in Arena, Mexico, uh, the ad apparently list, MJF, Mystico, Bandido, 10:01.220 --> 10:03.342 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, Mick Foley, of course, debuted with the company. 10:03.422 --> 10:18.637 [SPEAKER_00]: I swear to God, if they have him wrestle, I will not be happy, and I'll leave it like that, is very unfortunate that that's even like a thing he's talking about, considering that several several years ago. 10:18.697 --> 10:24.623 [SPEAKER_00]: He talked about how he could even roll right roller coasters anymore because he was just getting concussions from that, which is, 10:26.072 --> 10:53.868 [SPEAKER_00]: insane like that's really not good um so buddy don't get in the ring you know um mjf hypersin and his knee and the ruch match so he's had a cancel a uh indie day where he's gonna wrestle Bobby Orlando would be on wrestling on six five um so doesn't seem to be any like serious structural damage from the reporting early so hopefully um so it would be 10:56.117 --> 11:24.341 [SPEAKER_00]: good to not have that tidal rain ruined by injury the butcher in the blades contracts have expired appears they're out of the company you know it's in the sense that it's sad to see them go you know I think they're both good performers I honestly have lost track of the blades recovery from injury I'm not sure if he's been able to return yet not so when you hear this obnoxious typing in the background that's what that is. 11:25.284 --> 11:33.646 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I thought he was, uh, you know, I like that tag team pretty well as like a big card kind of tag team, uh, doing good work. 11:33.686 --> 11:35.426 [SPEAKER_00]: But they're both in their 40s, they're older. 11:35.646 --> 11:43.648 [SPEAKER_00]: The blade is back good for him, um, but, you know, I'd love for them to get featured somewhere. 11:43.668 --> 11:52.590 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they're a nice tag team, uh, but, you know, I don't get really take on bridge with the decision to let them go, frankly, um, 11:53.127 --> 11:59.989 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure where they would fit in like ring of honor level, I guess if you're really trying to make that a second promotion, which A.W. 12:00.049 --> 12:11.332 [SPEAKER_00]: arguably mostly is not, I guess they've been shown a few signs closer to that, but still, you know, that also should not really be intended to help people, you know, develop. 12:11.812 --> 12:19.834 [SPEAKER_00]: And these guys are late stage, you know, I mean, I think Blades 46 and Butcher's 48, it looks like, but always like the Butcher's work, 12:21.207 --> 12:23.448 [SPEAKER_00]: in particular like the blade's a good worker. 12:23.468 --> 12:28.689 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to knock him or anything, but yeah, I thought the butcher was always very cool whenever he showed up on TV. 12:28.910 --> 12:40.093 [SPEAKER_00]: So, there is a fundraiser shirt for Tenea Brooks, sick a rebel, a WWE selling it. 12:41.654 --> 12:45.215 [SPEAKER_00]: All money, all proceeds or profits, I think it is technically profits. 12:45.315 --> 12:46.335 [SPEAKER_00]: It should be proceeds, guys. 12:46.355 --> 12:47.196 [SPEAKER_00]: He got it big enough. 12:49.051 --> 12:52.652 [SPEAKER_00]: should go toward or are going towards ALS research, I believe it is. 12:53.533 --> 13:01.076 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's a great great cause, wishing her the best. 13:04.157 --> 13:10.580 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's about it for AW news from this week. 13:10.600 --> 13:13.061 [SPEAKER_00]: So just a little quick bit of quick hitters there. 13:14.601 --> 13:15.942 [SPEAKER_00]: Interest to see what they're going to do 13:21.525 --> 13:43.893 [SPEAKER_00]: It is a forbidden door, so traditionally, oh, previous years, I should say, not 2025, but previous points it was a interpromotion show with an interpromotion challenger, but they've really kind of moved away from that the past couple years, frankly, has been a couple years, what the hell am I talking about? 13:44.695 --> 13:53.402 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I just assume it's going to be someone I feels like they might be setting up for like a multi man a three or four, uh, you know, triple thread. 13:54.908 --> 14:15.203 [SPEAKER_00]: Three-way dance or four corners match for this paper view, teasing Mark Briscoe and then Draw Day and so on, would be a way to kind of get past multiple challengers while also kind of passing the time until assumedly, we'll ask for a get the title shot in the Wimbley. 14:15.764 --> 14:18.126 [SPEAKER_00]: But, yeah, I, 14:20.247 --> 14:38.782 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I personally just love another M.J. at brisco match, but I mean, and draw days have been on a tear and it's really hard to default his investment or placement in a title match, so I don't know, I prefer to not be a multi man, but I feel like it's it's headed that way, is by dumb read. 14:41.360 --> 14:44.721 [SPEAKER_00]: Mark Davisman has been fantastic this year. 14:44.741 --> 14:45.622 [SPEAKER_00]: I just got to say that. 14:45.962 --> 14:47.262 [SPEAKER_00]: I've really been impressed with this work. 14:47.302 --> 14:52.765 [SPEAKER_00]: The pile driver is my pick for move of the year. 14:52.825 --> 14:55.786 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to actually have to try to campaign for that. 14:55.866 --> 14:57.967 [SPEAKER_00]: So we don't just go with the same. 14:58.847 --> 15:04.869 [SPEAKER_00]: The neon double jump moon saw it's cool and so on. 15:04.909 --> 15:05.610 [SPEAKER_00]: But like we got a 15:09.307 --> 15:12.590 [SPEAKER_00]: The Mark Davis pilot ever is just so cool every single time. 15:12.610 --> 15:14.311 [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like he's just killing dudes with it. 15:14.432 --> 15:14.852 [SPEAKER_00]: It rules. 15:17.074 --> 15:18.675 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you can not love that move. 15:19.596 --> 15:21.878 [SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's talk about two lists that I'm going to get out of here. 15:22.298 --> 15:24.440 [SPEAKER_00]: First one is Voices Wrestling's 3030 list. 15:24.460 --> 15:26.942 [SPEAKER_00]: One of my favorite projects every year. 15:27.882 --> 15:30.965 [SPEAKER_00]: We voted on it again, and it's come out. 15:30.985 --> 15:34.388 [SPEAKER_00]: It was announced this past week with Syah Kamatani finishing first, 15:37.261 --> 15:43.484 [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, the best pick, frankly, from the Available Canada, it's like, she's done good work. 15:43.565 --> 15:56.652 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's a, I'm not gonna say, she's like, my UE with Tani level work or anything like that, but I think, I think she's a very good worker, you know, a good great one, even. 15:57.532 --> 16:01.474 [SPEAKER_00]: And she's obviously a tremendous draw and business mover over there. 16:01.534 --> 16:04.016 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, everyone in Japan is seemingly in, 16:05.280 --> 16:10.382 [SPEAKER_00]: if not outright freefall, but they've been hurt the last couple of years, though. 16:10.402 --> 16:13.464 [SPEAKER_00]: The year and is down, the economy over there is not great. 16:13.904 --> 16:27.470 [SPEAKER_00]: And most of the promotions seem to be declining a bit in attendance, and Comotani has started among the ups, and that is impressive to be doing that in that atmosphere in that environment. 16:27.530 --> 16:29.911 [SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like she's a clear cut number one. 16:31.571 --> 16:33.012 [SPEAKER_00]: The rest of the actual top 10, 16:35.842 --> 16:37.783 [SPEAKER_00]: That's gross, gross, gross roll. 16:37.823 --> 16:51.514 [SPEAKER_00]: Kyle Fletcher 2, Kalenuma 3, Yuma Anzai 4, Kevin Night 5, Mascarara Dorada 6, you watch a knob A7, Starlight Kid A8, number nine is Azumi, and then finally Jackie Kamey at 10. 16:51.674 --> 16:55.977 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's about as good of a top 10 as you can manage really. 16:56.697 --> 17:01.821 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't see any, first of all, I definitely don't see any one of that top 10 that is not deserving of recognition. 17:01.961 --> 17:02.602 [SPEAKER_00]: I apparently, 17:04.225 --> 17:08.909 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, I had candy in my, uh, my ball that I had, I'm not that upset with what I'm talking about. 17:09.310 --> 17:15.175 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, the, uh, yeah, I feel like that's a really reasonable top 10. 17:15.635 --> 17:19.418 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I can't, and apparently the voting is very close. 17:19.578 --> 17:21.980 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the top three are separated by just a couple points. 17:23.121 --> 17:26.464 [SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, yeah, I mean, it's a good top 10. 17:26.484 --> 17:26.544 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, 17:30.251 --> 17:41.099 [SPEAKER_00]: I do have a quiver with it in that I think WWE being completely out of the top 30 is flawed in that. 17:42.399 --> 17:48.243 [SPEAKER_00]: You've got re-ripply, Braun Breaker and Shabon Evans who I all think should have been in the top 30. 17:49.584 --> 17:56.008 [SPEAKER_00]: When I voted, I had Ripley 9th, I had Breaker 13th, and I had Evans 25th. 17:58.993 --> 18:05.902 [SPEAKER_00]: I think those three are obviously what you should be looking for in this list. 18:05.942 --> 18:15.633 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm not going to be upset about it because God knows that every other list in existence pretty much, you know, bins over backwards to talk about how great WWE is. 18:16.534 --> 18:18.777 [SPEAKER_00]: And if you're like, list me this somehow. 18:19.502 --> 18:42.066 [SPEAKER_00]: and you are upset that WWE didn't get the recognition they needed and it's because you think there's like an anti-divitivity thing going on or whatever, I mean, I think I disagree because, you know, voters are only going to vote on what they watched and a chunk of the voter base doesn't watch WWE, which is fair enough. 18:42.166 --> 18:43.506 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't follow anyone for that. 18:43.546 --> 18:44.366 [SPEAKER_00]: I only air drop in 18:49.588 --> 18:51.469 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm really good at this podcasting thing, guys. 18:51.969 --> 18:53.490 [SPEAKER_00]: You're making great decisions listening to me. 18:54.230 --> 18:59.593 [SPEAKER_00]: I only parachute into, you see, like, you know, recommended matches, essentially. 19:00.294 --> 19:02.014 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't sit through a whole episode of RAW. 19:02.034 --> 19:13.200 [SPEAKER_00]: I remember trying to watch the Netflix debut episode with Ward, Hayes, and after, like, two hours. 19:13.240 --> 19:14.721 [SPEAKER_00]: I was like, all right, I'm out. 19:19.117 --> 19:35.865 [SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, it's not really a promotion that I'm terribly interested in, but reripply is in Brunbraker and Javan Evans are three special talents and I would defend them and I think they should have been clear top 30 people. 19:35.885 --> 19:39.467 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that like they should have finished one two three like anything like that, that's insane. 19:40.417 --> 19:54.948 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I do think it's fair to criticize Adobe and mainly the output of a least breaker Ripley over the past year in terms of good matches because WWE is a approach to the doesn't care about match quality and they don't care about having their people wrestle a lot. 19:54.968 --> 20:06.096 [SPEAKER_00]: They actually try to avoid that, uh, you know, and so, you know, if you're like counting, uh, notebook matches in 2025 or 2026, there's not going to be a lot for these guys, just because 20:11.036 --> 20:17.542 [SPEAKER_00]: adjust for that, and I guess that'd be a fair way to do things, but I think it's fair to just say, well, you know, if you want to be considered a great wrestler, you should have great matches. 20:17.562 --> 20:19.784 [SPEAKER_00]: You should have those on a regular basis. 20:20.324 --> 20:20.545 [SPEAKER_00]: And... 20:21.545 --> 20:25.629 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, breaker and Ripley are in Evans. 20:26.169 --> 20:31.715 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we're already seeing them disappear a little bit just in terms of like, cause of hell, like he was having great matches and we would be for a while there. 20:31.775 --> 20:35.639 [SPEAKER_00]: And it feels like now he's made roster and they're like, oh, we don't wrestle here. 20:35.939 --> 20:44.567 [SPEAKER_00]: So I think that is a problem there, not a problem but like a reason why they didn't make the top 30. 20:46.285 --> 20:50.387 [SPEAKER_00]: I will say that I think they're all no doubters though for me. 20:50.547 --> 21:00.932 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Ripley is a high-level name in the biggest company of the world When she is given the opportunity to wrestle with someone that's not like Jade Cargill She puts on great matches. 21:00.972 --> 21:06.854 [SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't been asked The EOS guy tag team had some very strong matches not too long ago 21:09.308 --> 21:12.549 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's not like her popularity or pushes to create. 21:12.569 --> 21:13.670 [SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't fallen down the car. 21:13.710 --> 21:18.351 [SPEAKER_00]: She's still like one of the top women in that company, one of the top names period in that company. 21:18.531 --> 21:22.613 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that is, that should be enough to get her a top 30 spot. 21:22.693 --> 21:26.674 [SPEAKER_00]: Along with, you know, when you factor in like, she's a good worker and, you know, she's over. 21:26.734 --> 21:28.055 [SPEAKER_00]: And all this, I thought it's, 21:29.270 --> 21:48.338 [SPEAKER_00]: clear that she should be on the list now she's also in you know this company that doesn't like to have good matches and so that's part of it prom breaker i think is undoubtedly a great worker um i've had this conversation like spears before of uh open the voice gate and it will say stuff like i think is argument is basically that breaker 21:48.842 --> 21:55.487 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't think he would excel in Dragon Gate and so he doesn't vote for him because he thinks he's like a system quarterback because the term he likes to use. 21:56.248 --> 22:00.551 [SPEAKER_00]: I would have no, I undoubtedly think there would be an adjustment period. 22:00.751 --> 22:10.479 [SPEAKER_00]: If Freaker were to leave WWE to go to, yeah, I don't think AEW would be an issue, but like, you know, more puro like kind of like Dragon Gate, we'll stick with Dragon Gate in this example. 22:10.499 --> 22:13.922 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there'd be an adjustment period where he would struggle, but I also, 22:14.712 --> 22:24.941 [SPEAKER_00]: You can't convince me that he would not be as good if not better than Gianni Velonti, and I know that's Mike and K. So, I've gushed over Velonti's 2025, since he's a part-timer with Drangate. 22:26.642 --> 22:29.705 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Breaker is a tremendous athlete. 22:29.745 --> 22:30.786 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a borderline. 22:30.806 --> 22:34.329 [SPEAKER_00]: He barely missed the NFL, essentially. 22:35.090 --> 22:37.252 [SPEAKER_00]: Then he went to Adobe because he's the son of Scott Sire. 22:40.497 --> 22:45.138 [SPEAKER_00]: That's not getting to ask you what it is that he's not Bronstein here, but that's another conversation. 22:45.218 --> 22:48.859 [SPEAKER_00]: He did, you know, he got overexposed a bit early in NXT when he came in. 22:49.159 --> 22:55.960 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that kind of, he didn't look as best there, but it was about the time that he is tag teaming with Baron Corbin of all people. 22:56.220 --> 23:08.223 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe in that it's very funny that the Baron Corbin Act is like really got him as a, like, I feel like what's his breakthrough. 23:10.289 --> 23:18.338 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I really have a hard time believing that he would not work well in any permission in the world, uh, you know, there's going to be a grace period. 23:18.358 --> 23:30.291 [SPEAKER_00]: Like if you're taking him from straight from WWE main roster to Dragon Gate, like I could see him having a month or three months or whatever that would be difficult as an adjustment, but I think that, you know, after. 23:31.027 --> 23:43.430 [SPEAKER_00]: a little bit he ate the just and I mean he's a he's a fat he's fast he's strong he puts on good matches you know I think that he would do well and I can't really buy into this is important back thing 23:44.361 --> 23:47.966 [SPEAKER_00]: And Javan Evans, I mean, he's tremendously athletic, he's going to be a great interview worker. 23:48.006 --> 23:51.991 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel I have a tremendous feel for like how he's going to do personality-wise. 23:52.131 --> 23:56.176 [SPEAKER_00]: I do think there's, you know, I've read about this, I think, in the blurb for Javan. 23:57.157 --> 24:01.422 [SPEAKER_00]: I think there's concerns about his long term in WWE just because 24:02.462 --> 24:13.889 [SPEAKER_00]: he isn't the traditional do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- 24:25.226 --> 24:27.408 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess we'll see you going forward to me. 24:27.428 --> 24:28.990 [SPEAKER_00]: It would not be a lack of ability. 24:29.690 --> 24:42.403 [SPEAKER_00]: It just be a lack of like you know getting kind of slotted like I don't know tire bait or Chad Gable were you know one point all similar you know Evan born you know to go back even further like these guys that are work great guys, but just get kind of. 24:42.978 --> 25:04.538 [SPEAKER_00]: past over for one reason or another, and I think that's a legitimate concern with Jifon, but he should be a star, but I feel like it's like less clear cut path to start him and WD for him than Breaker, who is already like a order line main of the NERA points, I assume the vision has suffered another injury at some point. 25:04.558 --> 25:06.680 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to keep track of who's gone out from that group. 25:08.828 --> 25:34.826 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, outside of that and outside of these quibbles, you know, three guys I think should have been in the top 30, I think this is a fantastic list, I really like it, I have do a problem with anyone that's mentioned it, I think all the names listed are good, I think I think it's a great list, dearly, I'm proud of the work that they did, and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I think it's worth checking out and I 25:35.183 --> 25:38.545 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's a very, very, very long, honorable mention page. 25:38.845 --> 25:44.069 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to check out, literally, anyone who got a single vote, you could take a look at them. 25:44.169 --> 25:46.811 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, read about a little bit about almost all of them. 25:46.831 --> 25:48.232 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a couple, I think, without blurbs. 25:48.292 --> 25:50.974 [SPEAKER_00]: And be like, oh, okay, that person sounds just interesting. 25:50.994 --> 25:51.754 [SPEAKER_00]: I should check them out. 25:52.435 --> 26:02.101 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's, you know, that's really the funnest part of a project like this is being, you know, made a way or people you don't know about. 26:05.688 --> 26:10.012 [SPEAKER_00]: being curious about wrestling or anything in life, but this is a wrestling podcast. 26:10.052 --> 26:30.870 [SPEAKER_00]: Being curious about wrestling is a lot of little thing, and I think that you should be like that, you should be not just accepting that what you do or don't like in a major promotion like AW, but you should be curious about what's going on at the next level down and then down from there, as much as you can, but I just think that's a fun way to go about it, so 26:32.394 --> 26:40.958 [SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's a lot more rewarding than just, you know, I like using the W made of it scene or, you know, the W made of it scene or whatever. 26:41.038 --> 26:42.819 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, those people are good, usually. 26:42.879 --> 26:49.942 [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, there's other things out there with. 26:50.002 --> 26:50.903 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're worth your time. 26:54.308 --> 26:54.888 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's about it. 26:54.908 --> 26:56.769 [SPEAKER_00]: I have for 30 for 30. 26:56.829 --> 27:04.393 [SPEAKER_00]: GW greatest wrestler ever that's concluded after all the hard work by Grimmis over on the professing only board and discord. 27:05.274 --> 27:09.776 [SPEAKER_00]: Terry Funk 1, Brian Danielson's second, Kinta Gubashi 3. 27:10.436 --> 27:13.838 [SPEAKER_00]: Top 10's are on it out by Rick Flair Steve Austin, going to cheer you up. 27:14.138 --> 27:16.399 [SPEAKER_00]: Tinru, Stan Hanson, 27:21.327 --> 27:23.488 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think it's a very fair top 10. 27:23.988 --> 27:31.330 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, you could argue about like a little thing about placement, but I think that's a tremendously strong top 10. 27:31.370 --> 27:35.451 [SPEAKER_00]: I would have liked to have seen like, you know, Josie representative up there, maybe I'd call him. 27:35.491 --> 27:35.971 [SPEAKER_00]: He was 11. 27:35.991 --> 27:36.451 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a cure. 27:36.471 --> 27:37.852 [SPEAKER_00]: I hook it to with 16. 27:38.472 --> 27:40.052 [SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, it's not far off. 27:40.072 --> 27:40.772 [SPEAKER_00]: It's on the many points. 27:40.912 --> 27:41.613 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not a big deal. 27:42.093 --> 27:45.654 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's a pretty narrow gap between 10 and 11 there. 27:46.554 --> 27:46.694 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, 27:48.250 --> 28:13.752 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the real value in these projects is, you know, it's always fun to get people with different points of view together to talk about something like this and to advocate on behalf of their favorites and be like, hey, this is why I think the buzz great and using that as a opportunity to, you know, again, to have curiosity about wrestling about its history about what footage is out there and evaluating. 28:15.518 --> 28:16.919 [SPEAKER_00]: and sing if you do like something. 28:16.959 --> 28:19.181 [SPEAKER_00]: If you like she'd style any animal watch to before. 28:19.802 --> 28:30.251 [SPEAKER_00]: I've again, my schedule has been a nightmare, but I've dug into a little bit of Marika Yoshida after she finished I think top-huntered, I think that's where I saw her. 28:30.431 --> 28:37.997 [SPEAKER_00]: Under the second, yeah, I pulled her up and you know, I watched a couple batches of hers and went after watch more because she kicked ass in those matches. 28:39.400 --> 28:43.182 [SPEAKER_00]: So when I had a watch before, you know, from the 90s, Joe, she hadn't really heard all that much about. 28:43.383 --> 28:55.991 [SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that kind of stuff, you know, pull up the list, go through it, you know, start at number one and then scroll on down until you find a name you don't recognize or you don't haven't watched that much of and then just watch them and learn. 28:56.031 --> 28:58.572 [SPEAKER_00]: And I saw someone, I forget who was. 28:58.732 --> 29:05.016 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not really using this to like call them out or whatever, but I'm just trying to make a response to a point they made. 29:05.717 --> 29:07.518 [SPEAKER_00]: I think someone suggested that like, 29:08.844 --> 29:15.508 [SPEAKER_00]: people are mad about the possibility of like Jerry Lawler finishing a spot above Kenny Omega. 29:17.409 --> 29:21.592 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think if you're mad about that, you need to chew out frankly. 29:22.632 --> 29:29.076 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the PWO people, PWO people are big fans of Jerry Lawler. 29:29.156 --> 29:29.717 [SPEAKER_00]: And like, 29:30.627 --> 29:33.428 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I haven't watched a couple prime-law their performances. 29:33.468 --> 29:33.868 [SPEAKER_00]: I get it. 29:33.968 --> 29:35.549 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's a really special performer. 29:35.589 --> 29:39.650 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a great baby face and he's great in that kind of, Memphis style match. 29:41.511 --> 29:45.713 [SPEAKER_00]: I was not gonna be for everyone, but at the same time, Kenny Omega's not gonna be for everyone. 29:46.453 --> 29:54.076 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's, you know, fair to watch these guys and, and gals and to, you know, just draw your own conclusion. 29:54.196 --> 29:55.576 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a real value in it. 29:57.277 --> 29:58.698 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what you should be doing. 30:01.947 --> 30:26.446 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's nothing on here that really made me angry with one exception and the one thing that did make me kind of annoyed me, Piff, Piff, Piff, Piff, Piff, Piff, Piff, Piff, Piff, in the voting process was when people would vote for stuff like Yoshihiko and Andre's a giant panda and so on and you know, kid the box I think someone tried to vote for but was nominated. 30:27.161 --> 30:29.342 [SPEAKER_00]: Look, I get enjoying those matches. 30:29.362 --> 30:33.465 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to pretend like I haven't enjoyed anything evolving them or like Maca, Mama, or whatever. 30:35.726 --> 30:52.177 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's very silly in a list of the 100 greatest wrestlers to be voting for, not people or at least, you know, like gimmicks in aren't necessarily assigned to one person or aren't like, you know, it's a little different than it's actually very different from like, 30:52.902 --> 30:57.483 [SPEAKER_00]: Mystico is the guy under the mask, you know, and he wrestles with the mask, but we all know who Mystico is. 30:58.284 --> 31:08.086 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's very silly to try to compare that to like, this is the person wearing an inflatable panda costume. 31:08.947 --> 31:10.227 [SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like that's kind of a deal. 31:10.547 --> 31:14.808 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of discourse about stuff, like someone voted loop in so second. 31:15.249 --> 31:18.209 [SPEAKER_00]: And I saw Andy Kaufman got a top 25 vote. 31:21.097 --> 31:27.840 [SPEAKER_00]: I thought the Lulu pencil stuff during the pandemic was fun, you know, kind of a high water mark for early pandemic stuff. 31:28.060 --> 31:37.205 [SPEAKER_00]: I think they told a very good story, but at the same time, I don't think it's that hard to evaluate Lulu pencil and be like, ah, she's really not a good wrestler. 31:39.253 --> 31:53.202 [SPEAKER_00]: The person's justification was that they got really invested in the store in line of looping pencil, and she made them feel a certain way about wrestling, like, you know, very invested it, I guess, basically, sorry, keep myself for the first time, I'm sure. 31:54.543 --> 31:58.046 [SPEAKER_00]: But that's why they voted her that high. 31:58.066 --> 31:59.166 [SPEAKER_00]: I understand. 32:00.708 --> 32:07.092 [SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's fairly silly to look at this list, you know, and come up with 32:08.029 --> 32:34.086 [SPEAKER_00]: all these different names, and it doesn't matter what style or pastiles you're partial to, but whatever you're into as a resting fan and to look up and down this list, and like in one five person slot, have Antonio Nokey, a Kira Talway, John Cena, Nick Bokwinkle, and Chagus in the guyo, and to conclude that, actually the best wrestler of all time is, uh, his loop pencil. 32:34.506 --> 32:35.747 [SPEAKER_00]: I do think that's pretty silly. 32:36.362 --> 33:01.332 [SPEAKER_00]: And same with Andy Kaufman, I think Andy Kaufman, you know, did some fun stuff and all this, but I also think it's a little silly to evaluate him and as superior to, you know, putting name off the, you know, whoever they voted for, I forget who was the voted for him, but like, you know, saying, and that's why he's better than Ketsa Yorsha Potta or KG Mudo or 33:02.248 --> 33:03.348 [SPEAKER_00]: You wish a ride. 33:03.368 --> 33:08.049 [SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's a little silly that a way to go about it. 33:08.109 --> 33:09.629 [SPEAKER_00]: I know he was a tremendous troll. 33:11.510 --> 33:20.291 [SPEAKER_00]: Doing his, you know, woman's champion of the world, sticking all that and, you know, the, I'm Hollywood, Memphis sucks stuff. 33:22.272 --> 33:29.653 [SPEAKER_00]: But I just think it's, you know, it's not how I would I would have cast my balance on how I don't really agree with that evaluation. 33:29.793 --> 33:30.013 [SPEAKER_00]: But, 33:30.758 --> 33:33.280 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, again, as I said before, I'll say it again. 33:33.300 --> 33:41.448 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the fun thing is being able to see all these different people's opinions and votes and including the tribal chief of Rhode Island. 33:43.950 --> 33:55.481 [SPEAKER_00]: If you know, you know, yeah, it's just a fun little project, a couple of fun projects, you know, to see as them to broaden your horizons and have some fun with us, wrestling. 33:56.793 --> 33:59.874 [SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of my big thought opinion, big thought opinion. 34:00.314 --> 34:02.735 [SPEAKER_00]: I speak real good, fire me into the sun. 34:03.816 --> 34:08.457 [SPEAKER_00]: That's just my big takeaway on those projects. 34:09.058 --> 34:10.878 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, that's all I've got to talk about this week. 34:11.178 --> 34:12.419 [SPEAKER_00]: I hope you all are having a great week. 34:12.799 --> 34:15.380 [SPEAKER_00]: I look forward to talking with you the next time I can. 34:18.381 --> 34:19.922 [SPEAKER_00]: But until then, take care y'all. 34:20.042 --> 34:20.582 [SPEAKER_00]: Have a good one. 34:20.942 --> 34:21.302 [SPEAKER_00]: Be good. 34:22.503 --> 34:22.983 [SPEAKER_00]: Talk to you later.