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[UNKNOWN]: You are listening to the flagship podcast with your host, Joe Lanzo.
[UNKNOWN]: What is being a annoying stop to you ever?
[UNKNOWN]: That's an excellent point.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's part of the charm and rich craze.
[UNKNOWN]: Corey Graves screaming perfectly.
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[UNKNOWN]: You could do anything you want.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, Paul Hayman is just yelling.
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[UNKNOWN]: God damn it.
[UNKNOWN]: All of you.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck this.
[UNKNOWN]: And we are live on the flagship podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: I am Rich, he is Joe Joe, what's happening?
[UNKNOWN]: How are you?
[UNKNOWN]: Just better be good.
[UNKNOWN]: You're pulling me away from RLH on Honor Club.
[UNKNOWN]: What's on tonight?
[UNKNOWN]: What's the, what's the hot, Billy Starks will shiver in fear of Athena?
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, what's on, what else is on?
[UNKNOWN]: I know that'll be on Honor Club.
[UNKNOWN]: What else is on RLH on Honor Club?
[UNKNOWN]: What episode are we at?
[UNKNOWN]: here.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, air, June 4th.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I got it.
[UNKNOWN]: I got it.
[UNKNOWN]: You're ready.
[UNKNOWN]: Here's what you're gonna sleep.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe they're seven pure match.
[UNKNOWN]: You're while you're actually actually, you believe it or not, you're not that far off.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, you are getting tonight on Ring of Honor.
[UNKNOWN]: You were getting out.
[UNKNOWN]: No spoilers.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll keep a spoiler free here.
[UNKNOWN]: Although did it air already?
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's airing now, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Remember that first week that Ring of Honor was an honor club?
[UNKNOWN]: We lost a lot of viewers.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we ended the next week.
[UNKNOWN]: It was just like to leave it all back.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember that first time.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh man, a lot of people watching Ring of Honor.
[UNKNOWN]: And then it ended.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you know, we had a huge spike of people coming back.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, wow, yeah, Ring of Honor, honor club.
[UNKNOWN]: Really got a lot of people to watch.
[UNKNOWN]: And that never happened ever again.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the first week.
[UNKNOWN]: And then never again.
[UNKNOWN]: To the spike ever.
[UNKNOWN]: It's always just now a single person.
[UNKNOWN]: That was, but anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... the kingdom met table in mike Bennett uh... they'll be facing the team of alic price and jordan aliver uh... queen on the not to versus lacy lane a r-wage women's pure proving ground match diana pros overs i lived on uh...
[UNKNOWN]: Our way to pure title, proving your own match, Lee Mori, already versus Mans Warner, it's all Mansor and a pure rules match, it's gonna be gonna prove, and then a our way to women's world title, proving ground match, a theme of versus high-on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, now you know why we don't lose many live listeners to our way to another club anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you wanna hear what was on the first show?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it seems so long, go, yeah, what's up?
[UNKNOWN]: Honor Club 1, ROH on Honor Club 1.
[UNKNOWN]: Mark Briscoe defeats Slim J.
[UNKNOWN]: Was your opener.
[UNKNOWN]: We had the kingdom over the infantry.
[UNKNOWN]: New Japan television title match.
[UNKNOWN]: Zack Saber Jr. defeats Defeats Blake Christian.
[UNKNOWN]: We had Christopher Daniels over Rohit Raju.
[UNKNOWN]: a company by jora jol that they saw that guy on the right like he was that was the most anonymous guy on the right or the other guy no the jora jol guy he was uh oh yeah yeah hi I don't there's no way right
[UNKNOWN]: He was in the hardy family office, remember?
[UNKNOWN]: People were always like, he would do like run-ins and people would be like, who's that guy?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I don't know, there's no way, right?
[UNKNOWN]: He got to be gone by now, yeah, you would think.
[UNKNOWN]: But he stuck around for a long time.
[UNKNOWN]: Konosuke Takeshita over Josh Woods.
[UNKNOWN]: Bishop Khan, Toiliana, and Brian Cage, with Prince Nanna, defeat Jokees, L.S.
[UNKNOWN]: G. and Rex Wallace in a squash.
[UNKNOWN]: They were the six-man champions at the time.
[UNKNOWN]: That was non-title.
[UNKNOWN]: Ari Devari vs. Matalique.
[UNKNOWN]: Madison Rain and Sky blew against the renegades.
[UNKNOWN]: Willow Night and Galver's Lady Frost and in your main event was Claudio Castignoly defending the ROH world title against AR Fox.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a significantly better show.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's better.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he better show.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking at, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't say if whether he's on or off.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I remember the guy now.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just a big monster of a man, right?
[UNKNOWN]: He was a big strong boy.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he was a big monster.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he was a big, big, strong guy if I remember.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he hasn't worked anything related since AEW Dark in January of 2023.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh no, wait, March 2023, he worked Dark.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's it, as far as AEW and ROH, he's got to be gone by now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I did a little, I guess after the hearty thing broke up, he rode you for a while.
[UNKNOWN]: And then that was the bolt of them, we're told they had the bricks at some point.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's show that I would maybe miss a podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: I like to check out that show.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not a bad show, but it's also the debut people want to see what it would look like.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and just not.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it never caught up on.
[UNKNOWN]: No, never.
[UNKNOWN]: Never caught on, but hey, you can go watch some proving ground matches.
[UNKNOWN]: See who if I
[UNKNOWN]: I liked it in the studio and it went in the studio for a little while, at least that was something different.
[UNKNOWN]: The most recent studio I didn't like, I think they shot the most recent studio pretty terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a serious time to win this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: That one was pretty solid.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: When he was all Tony was all excited about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I actually remember him saying to me that, oh, yeah, we got some big plan for our wage.
[UNKNOWN]: He was going to make it much better and it went into the studio that didn't last the few tapings.
[UNKNOWN]: then they just went back to tape and shit like before Dynamite.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, dude.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and you haven't gone to a live dynamite or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: There is nothing that is more death than the ring of honor tapings on a dynamite or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I used to go to those every year, I'd go to the Dynamites on Thanksgiving Eve or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: And there weren't usually pretty good shows.
[UNKNOWN]: I usually had a really good time.
[UNKNOWN]: So you'd get there if you got there early, there was ring of honor being taped beforehand, which was
[UNKNOWN]: In some ways a little worse because it's like nobody is ready to sit down everyone's kind of mingling There's like a hundred people maybe sitting down and watching nobody is paying attention It's just absolutely brutal and then
[UNKNOWN]: So you do your whole, and those Thanksgiving Eve shows, I think they would do a whole dynamite, a whole collision, and then one time they were doing a ring of honor after that.
[UNKNOWN]: And I cannot, I mean, there was, it was me, JD of the Miami, JD in Mike's show, my friend, and like seven other people were sitting there.
[UNKNOWN]: watching ring and then I was just like I have to leave thanks giving tomorrow it's 12 30 what go home rich what are you doing here what you don't have to be a completist you can go home you don't have to watch this ring about it's just absolutely terrible to watch so that wasn't going to work you had taping it before after and I'm sure that experience is is the same on on most times when you go to a you know a dynamite and it's like all right hang around folks like having like a poor Justin Roberts had to be like her body crews would get in and be like
[UNKNOWN]: All right, folks, that was a fantastic episode of eight.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, not everybody don't leave your seats We're gonna be taking a big ring of honor It's like everybody stands up at least.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like yeah Yeah, cuz it's like 1040 and they're like now When you watch the matches, it's in the lights down nobody there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's a rut.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a rough go It's a rough go.
[UNKNOWN]: They just haven't ever been able to solve that
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, just I guess just run in the studio maybe maybe he figured you know what this is not cost effective We're not getting subscriptions.
[UNKNOWN]: It's costing a lot of money to do this.
[UNKNOWN]: All right because
[UNKNOWN]: You know, whether the dumbest people alive believe it or not, he runs these things like a business.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not just lighting money on fire, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: So does he have the money to light on fire to run a studio version of our wage that tapes once a month?
[UNKNOWN]: Of course he does.
[UNKNOWN]: We all know that he does, but he's attempting to run these things like an actual business.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, after a few months of that, I guess they looked at the subscriptions and realized it was running in the red and we're like, you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: to bring some people to TV and just do everything in one night.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: The worst we have to do is change the ring ropes and change the frickin on mats.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And if half the people in the arena leave who cares, we have the arena anyway and we'll dim the lights and it doesn't matter.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and, you know, but that's, like, you owe a set of all long ago, that's not something you could sell to television stations.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't sell that to television stations.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think the, the, the, the, the, the, the, because didn't they have a later attempts to put it to put it in a studio, like more recently?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I was talking about, like two, maybe two or three months ago or so, they did another studio event.
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't look very good.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a pretty rough looking studio event.
[UNKNOWN]: And that didn't work out either.
[UNKNOWN]: And those might be the tip-offs that he's like in talks, but someone whenever he tapes it in his studio.
[UNKNOWN]: Because that's something that you can present and say, hey, look, this is, you know, I have a proven track record of drawing an audience on television for six years now.
[UNKNOWN]: This is kind of a second promotion that I have that has separate books from this other thing.
[UNKNOWN]: contractually here's what we can do and maybe that's what he's presenting when he might you know be in talks with someone because he cannot possibly be presenting you know 400 people in Huntsville, Alabama after dynamite is over with the lights turned off and no heat and all of that it just looks terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah and and five boring proving ground peer proving ground map just whatever the hell yeah not probably not working very well uh... for ring of honor but um...
[UNKNOWN]: there you go.
[UNKNOWN]: So people are saying that they are they taped a studio in Jacksonville two weeks ago.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if that's sure or not, but yeah for now and then they do a studio taping.
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's it's it's it's it'll be a bulk taping they'll do like 45 masks and that'll be good for now two months of ring of honor television is in the books.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah I mean you know how much could it cost?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean if it were me and I'm spending someone else's money here
[UNKNOWN]: I think that I would just always tape that thing in a studio.
[UNKNOWN]: Even if you have to do three months of TV at a time, and what does it matter?
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't really matter if you tape that, just do the old WCW worldwide, where they're air and matches from three months, or what's the difference?
[UNKNOWN]: It's our way.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very niche audience that's watching that anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's gonna look better, and if you do come across a scenario where you're trying to get this thing on the air somewhere, you got some,
[UNKNOWN]: decent looking tape to show.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: I see these you can control the atmosphere a little bit better.
[UNKNOWN]: Make it look a little bit better towards Smith and Chatsa's.
[UNKNOWN]: Collisionous for the sickos and our wages for the disease.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I like that.
[UNKNOWN]: But you know, I think a sicko, I do think like a sicko like six hour studio taping might be the the recipe there.
[UNKNOWN]: is like book out like whatever the fuck your paper he was gonna be I mean the god willing got to hope everyone's healthy but that's the fun of it that's the fun of studio wrestling uh... i i just want as much of a throwback to you know in early nineties w i would say yeah at some point sit down figure out what your freaking death before dishonor shows gonna be and then just take like of five hour marathon and a god damn studio and then just do everything do the whole thing do i everything wipe your hands if anything you have to think about ring of honor again until right three months from now that that seems a little easier to do then
[UNKNOWN]: Tony's never going to say that he's not the booker of everything because I and that's not I don't think that's due to ego.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's due to he wants to fall on the sword all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't want to he doesn't want people blaming other people.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know who's really it could be him.
[UNKNOWN]: He could be sitting there on his fucking private jet in the air.
[UNKNOWN]: Booking ROH TV shows.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know but he shouldn't be.
[UNKNOWN]: He should be, he should have someone cutting their teeth with booking, pro wrestling, handling R.O.H., and for all I know there is someone doing that.
[UNKNOWN]: they're never going to tell us he if you ever ask him who's looking at it is he always says it's him because he obviously is the final word he is the he Vince McMahon in this scenario regardless although he has you know he has said that he has a firmer handle on everything in a w these days and most of the stuff is coming from him it shows too by the way but as far as our wage oh yeah definitely but as far as our age I mean that should be someone who you're
[UNKNOWN]: really should and he shouldn't be concerning himself with it, he should have big picture what he wants at the paper view and he should have someone who he's grooming working backwards to get to what he wants on the paper views and giving someone experience.
[UNKNOWN]: And like I said, for all I know that is happening.
[UNKNOWN]: But I wouldn't be shocked if it wasn't.
[UNKNOWN]: Would you be shocked if it's hand-handling all of that, too?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, would be shocked if it wasn't for pure matches on this week's.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, that's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: We are also missing a TNA on AMC.
[UNKNOWN]: We were told that Santino Morella in Indie Heartwell versus Channing Stax Lorenzo on Ariana Grace is hitting the ring right now.
[UNKNOWN]: So if you were wondering, if you want to stop reviewing that show, then there's a really good answer for you right.
[UNKNOWN]: and Indie Hartwell versus Chaining Stacks Lorenzo and Ariana Grace is hitting the ring as a great example.
[UNKNOWN]: Also on this night's episode of TNA Impact Audit Hardies versus the righteous in a wicked garden match.
[UNKNOWN]: Sounds like a stupid match.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep, a hearty's style.
[UNKNOWN]: This is what syscoups.com says about the wicked guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't let that hearty hear that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: The hearty's style broken universe environment match.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, great.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going back to that well.
[UNKNOWN]: OK. All right.
[UNKNOWN]: That diminishing returns well.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the last thing they've done that's been good.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much.
[UNKNOWN]: We're being leave versus Mr. elegans.
[UNKNOWN]: How many intergenre matches?
[UNKNOWN]: What are we doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Who wants this?
[UNKNOWN]: Eddie Edwards versus BDE and Eric Young addresses the TNA audience that's your brutal terrible show too.
[UNKNOWN]: That's two intergenre matches.
[UNKNOWN]: A wicked garden match, Eric Young addresses the universe and Eddie Edwards versus BDE.
[UNKNOWN]: Eddie Edwards versus a YouTube guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Great.
[UNKNOWN]: Why can you find me like legitimately a hundred wrestling fans?
[UNKNOWN]: who are excited tonight about Lee-Ying Lee against Mr.
[UNKNOWN]: Elevator.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just healing you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: From the creative mind of Tom Dream, the same man who knew his broke today that he thought that take a little time.
[UNKNOWN]: Tom Deloo was the next rock, like the rock Johnson.
[UNKNOWN]: That's from the creative mind of that guy.
[UNKNOWN]: We get Mr.
[UNKNOWN]: Elevator's first Lee-Ying Lee.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, TNA is a fucking dumpster fire.
[UNKNOWN]: It really is.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's such shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Why can't it just be average?
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, if people want a complete breakdown of what's going on in TNA today,
[UNKNOWN]: Tuesday flagship.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: 10 dollar tier.
[UNKNOWN]: We open up to show with what a half hour of TNA talk and breaking down what we see as the weaknesses in as far as what's going on in several and spoiler.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so good, good plug a roof for the Tuesday flagship.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's let's we'll finish out.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk all about that Tuesday flagship here.
[UNKNOWN]: We did a Tuesday flagship.
[UNKNOWN]: So if you're listening to this, the topic, so I'm going to talk about are not going to be covered on this flagship episode.
[UNKNOWN]: No, those were all covered on the subscriber exclusive flagship available for you right now at flagship patron dot com.
[UNKNOWN]: So the shows we talked about in that one was of course,
[UNKNOWN]: uh... slow moving ticket sales for slamer vs you said in the state of t and a what's wrong with t and a what they can do to fix it we do a local roster breakdown we literally go through you know every single name on the roster uh... and who we would keep and who you know who's who's viable and who's a real you know someone we would push and someone we would not and uh... again it's the list of people we would not push is pretty long in the people we would push uh... it's pretty small but i think it's a uh... a good discussion that we had
[UNKNOWN]: I was at a very lengthy discussion about an hour, so talking about the 2026 greatest wrestler ever vote a little bit about a little bit of the methodology of the greatest wrestler ever, the history of the project, and a little bit about how changes, good and bad occurred in this 2026 vote.
[UNKNOWN]: So I thought that was a really, really great segment as well, that we reviewed collision from Saturday as well as the special two hour premiere of MLW Fusion.
[UNKNOWN]: So if you want,
[UNKNOWN]: a recap and review of the special two hour premiere of MLW Fusion that will not be on this episode of the flagship.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: It will be on the subscriber exclusive flagship available right now at flagshippatreon.com on the $10 tier.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a subscriber exclusive.
[UNKNOWN]: flagship.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, that was a fun show.
[UNKNOWN]: I enjoyed it doing that show a lot of some big picture top topics and then obviously covering some show reviews as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So that again, available tied out to your flagship patron.com.
[UNKNOWN]: On this show, though, we are going to talk about the AAA show from Saturday, including the big mask versus mask, main of that El Grande Americano versus the original El Grande Americano, getting a lot of buzz and a lot of hype.
[UNKNOWN]: We will talk about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go up to discuss derivatives next steps in Mexico.
[UNKNOWN]: They are getting aggressive.
[UNKNOWN]: We always wondered.
[UNKNOWN]: Why are they not being very aggressive in Mexico?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they have now changed that and they are being very aggressive in Mexico and we'll talk about what's coming up for Dota V in Mexico.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll review Dota V clash in Italy.
[UNKNOWN]: the most recent ESPN WWE premium live event that we clash in Italy, I was talking about shooting Skywalker, departing Dragon Gate, and a very brief, and I put it here, and I do mean brief, check in on the New Japan Best of the Super Junior's because I see what the semi-finals are, and that's why I added the Abe Simpson gift in the Topist and Runchie to FlexerPatreon.com, because I am not interested.
[UNKNOWN]: and whatever the hell is happening in New Japan's best of the super juniors.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll get to that a little bit later.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to start this show off, at least, with a little discussion about the 30 for 30, the voice arresting 30 under 30 project that we've done now for a couple of years, spearheaded by Griffin Peltier, who is in the chat right now in Griffin, thank you so much for doing the 30 under 30.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all he's doing.
[UNKNOWN]: He makes the graphics, he gets the voters, he does everything he can possibly do.
[UNKNOWN]: We just simply host it.
[UNKNOWN]: Every voice is a wrestling.com, but he does all the heavy lifting with it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's a project we've done since I think 2023, a panel of voters, votes for the best wrestlers under 30 years old.
[UNKNOWN]: And we did it yet again this year.
[UNKNOWN]: Number one.
[UNKNOWN]: Cyacomotani from our startup was the number one wrestler that we name 30 under 30 Kyle Fletcher was number two.
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is the, you know, the second or third year that Kyle Fletcher's been number two.
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[UNKNOWN]: For start, it was number nine, and then Jackie Kamey from Dragon Gate rounded out your top 10, as far as WWE on that top 10, there is none, and that's okay, and that's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: And honestly this year, I don't last year we got like a lot of feedback from WWE Loons, getting all mad about it.
[UNKNOWN]: They've just given up this year.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't really care, which is fine.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I still some Twitter replies, which, you know, just a couple scant Twitter blinds tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's some stuff that, you know, that's obviously always the make up.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, last year, I thought WWE got screwed in this thing.
[UNKNOWN]: But I will say that this year, I saw people complaining about rear Ripley.
[UNKNOWN]: What is Rea Ripley done in the last year, she's done nothing, you know, and so I can't sit here and screw me in yellow about Rea Ripley, but I think Brom Braker gets a raw deal every time and this thing, yeah, but he was hurt for a long time and he didn't do a ton.
[UNKNOWN]: Do I think Brom Braker is a better wrestler than Utilice?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't even think it's close, like Brom Braker is a thousand times the wrestler Utilice is, and he's going to be a thousand times the star, but it's like, I get it though,
[UNKNOWN]: What real again?
[UNKNOWN]: What did Bron do in the last year?
[UNKNOWN]: Then what did Utah ice do?
[UNKNOWN]: Utah ice is often having the best match on major New Japan cards.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's a hot tag team and he's a new star in all of those things.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, it's not exactly the criteria.
[UNKNOWN]: But if you're a voter in this thing, you're probably looking at you to ice in the last year and you're more impressed with him than you are Bron Braker in the last year.
[UNKNOWN]: Or Rhea Ripley who has done nothing, even though you'd be a fool to bet on you to ice's future versus Bron Braker's future.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you lose everything you had if you bet on that.
[UNKNOWN]: But, you know, so, yeah, I think that it's hard to find.
[UNKNOWN]: should probably there's plenty of American names I think should have probably been a little bit higher.
[UNKNOWN]: I think Nick Wayne gets screwed in this thing every year, but again, he was injured.
[UNKNOWN]: He was injured a lot here, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So you can even, you know, find reasons why some of these people didn't get, you know, the support like Daniel Garcia, de-pushed.
[UNKNOWN]: and wasn't putting a position to have a lot of great matches.
[UNKNOWN]: So again, that's good to affect how people vote for somebody like him.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and then, you know, Kyle Fletcher did finish number two and Kevin Knight did finish very high.
[UNKNOWN]: Like you said, I think he was fifth fifth.
[UNKNOWN]: Kevin Knight was fifth.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so, and, and, and, and, you know, look, Fletcher was out for like a month with injury, but he had a huge year before that.
[UNKNOWN]: And Kevin Knights obviously a massive rising star in the industry.
[UNKNOWN]: So, um, it's not as if the voters completely ignored American wrestling because you did have those two names in the, in the top net top.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Leon Slater was 18th as well for another American name.
[UNKNOWN]: That sounds about fair.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, but yeah, WWE, now here now, I'll say the same thing I say all the time when it comes to the 30 under 30 when it comes to the FSM 50 that we do every year.
[UNKNOWN]: Not everything has to be for WWE fans.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're not a you know, WWE, believe me, Rear Ripley is going to get plenty of flowers and always gets plenty of flowers and if rear Ripley isn't going to get, um,
[UNKNOWN]: sort of automatic support in something like this, which is more of a panel of people who watch everything in the world, quite literally, just look at the list and look at the honorable matches.
[UNKNOWN]: You'll see that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to get the full number off from Griffin.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it's not my habit.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to do so.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a ungodly amount of people got at least one vote and that was much and solicited as endless.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's going to be predominantly based on in-ring work and those sorts of things.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, then yeah, then Rhea Ripley didn't deserve to finish high.
[UNKNOWN]: No matter, you know, how much these gooners think that she did, I just isn't the case, you know, and, um, so, and I think it's okay to have, um, I don't want to use the word niche, but I think it's okay to have more boutique lists like that's the word I usually use to have like a boutique list.
[UNKNOWN]: of people who are really watching everything and they're stripping it down from simply star power and who's a big star and and who has the most exposure none of those things matter to this voting panel and well I can't say they don't matter at all but they matter a lot less to this voter panel.
[UNKNOWN]: They're going to judge these people within the context of the promotions that they work in more than they're going to judge them.
[UNKNOWN]: and say, well, you know, this Yoshi wrestler, how can I possibly put her over Rea Ripley, who's this massive star, and one of the biggest stars in WWE period?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the reason you're going to do that is because she had a better year in the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: And within the context of her promotion was a better worker in all of those things.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's important that lists like this exist, that lists like the FSM 50 exist, that are match of the year pole exists, because quite honestly, if we're not going to do
[UNKNOWN]: Who's doing it?
[UNKNOWN]: It's over.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no one else is.
[UNKNOWN]: No one else is doing it.
[UNKNOWN]: And then these wrestlers are not going to get recognized.
[UNKNOWN]: Now I will say, if I could have a little fun with you and Griff, and I had the same complaint last year.
[UNKNOWN]: The honorable mentions.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, geez, I think I'm still scrolling through.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, 62 wrestlers receive votes.
[UNKNOWN]: Guys, you don't have to do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Just like the set here's.
[UNKNOWN]: for full disclosure for everybody listening i have nothing to do with this project i didn't even know it was coming out okay they don't they don't clue me in i'm not asked to participate i don't feel like i should participate anyway because i'm not watching enough i i don't think i'm watching enough which should tell you how much these people are watching
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, that should tell you right there because I'm not watching enough to where I think I could fairly participate I'm not invited.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm nothing to do it I didn't know it was coming out, but I'm gonna give you the same piece of advice I gave you last year as someone who's just a consumer of the project I don't need every single person who got a vote to get a honorable mention fucking blurb and picture It's ridiculous no one's reading all that shit Here's what you need to do do your top 30 and this is unsolicited advice by the way
[UNKNOWN]: Do your top 30.
[UNKNOWN]: Give those people all the attention in the world and pick five to ten honorable mentions.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to go by who got the most points or you could do it that way.
[UNKNOWN]: That'd be a fair way to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: But just pick five to ten interesting honorable mentions to focus on and then just list out everyone who got a vote.
[UNKNOWN]: It's your did that that honorable mention post every year rich.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a rough it's over three.
[UNKNOWN]: It is a how many
[UNKNOWN]: Griffin does all the work on that one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I gotta give him credit and or I do appreciate it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's long, I get it, it's long.
[UNKNOWN]: But I do think there's certain value in these wrestlers that are never gonna get publicity on any other website ever.
[UNKNOWN]: To get their little graphic and get their little name up there, I know.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen to that thing, I've got votes.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, if I don't know, if Andrew casts wants to write up, do better next year, and you'll get a write up.
[UNKNOWN]: How about that?
[UNKNOWN]: How's that?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, it's just throwing that out there.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it's a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, how many Yoshi that we're never going to hear from again in five years?
[UNKNOWN]: And how many Japanese indie wrestlers do I have to scroll through?
[UNKNOWN]: Before I find somebody that's interesting, it's just a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying from a consumer standpoint, it, yeah, wait, geez.
[UNKNOWN]: Ridiculous, pick five to ten guys.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, I'm gonna complain about the same thing next year when Griff is looking up pictures and putting up profiles.
[UNKNOWN]: I just feel bad for him because he's like, I gotta find these pictures of all these people and I do feel bad for him that he's got to do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, won't live in the Elijah Blum, doesn't have a photo of him.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, live on.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, you know, we'll make it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we'll be okay if Hunorihana doesn't have herself a little profile from a little seedling promotion over there We'll survive.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll be alright.
[UNKNOWN]: So look at Jackson Drake looking uh
[UNKNOWN]: uh... very sexy with the pose there to see you see jackson drag i'm sure he will be a high riser in the coming years jackson drag we got uh... uh... james and shook getting some votes here yeah yeah people so uh... let's see how sexy uh... that's great oh jackson wow yeah a lot of pits out there for jackson drag yeah
[UNKNOWN]: I'm surprised they're not, we're not seeing more complaints about Javon Evans, not making it up.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they, you know, it's, it's interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: This year, like I said, I, I feel like the Derby fans just didn't even bother.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's so yeah, honestly, that's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: That's okay with me.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what this thing brought them?
[UNKNOWN]: It's not for that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm glad.
[UNKNOWN]: They finally have just stopped carry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's a whole way.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't think you got posted on Reddit, which thank God, because at any time, any thing of ours gets posted on Reddit, I go to Reddit and I say, hey, could you please delete this immediately?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I don't want these people to, and they don't click either.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the other thing, too.
[UNKNOWN]: I always notice this whenever we have a post on Reddit, and there'll be 300 comments.
[UNKNOWN]: Voice is wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to read that.
[UNKNOWN]: He's going to don't know anything.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, and then they react like, oh, I can't believe that guy was there.
[UNKNOWN]: So not that I was then I look at the traffic and it's getting no extra traffic.
[UNKNOWN]: Like no traffic is going to hit to come from right and nothing is going to happen.
[UNKNOWN]: The links are coming right.
[UNKNOWN]: So it gets posted there and then people just react and then yeah, for no read, but Where it did break containment was in Japan this year.
[UNKNOWN]: Like a Japanese sports website, posted about Sia Kawantani finishing number one.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was a Nikon sports or something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: And your folks at zero one, did you see that?
[UNKNOWN]: I did.
[UNKNOWN]: The zero one universe blowing up.
[UNKNOWN]: It's on the internet.
[UNKNOWN]: I posted it.
[UNKNOWN]: I posted it to the base neo app too.
[UNKNOWN]: No shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, go to the base.
[UNKNOWN]: It's there cuz cuz we're going to be cool.
[UNKNOWN]: No, she she found out about it, and then Junium, that's an agafond out about it, and then they posted on the base Neo app too.
[UNKNOWN]: So It's hot and Z1.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, this is your time to get those DMs
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I have nothing to say to them.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I just like watch in the matches.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, I guess that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: Where's uh, yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a hard app to navigate, but yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll take your word for there.
[UNKNOWN]: That's there.
[UNKNOWN]: I've got to take your word for it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You and you and Mox are reading the article on based in the order find out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, don't doubt about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but yeah, a lot of discussion like you got big and like Yahoo Japan picked it up because this new kind of sports picked it up and the comments were very good It was like very interesting to watch the difference of Japanese wrestling fans compared to American wrestling fans in the way like because American wrestling fans the reaction would be like
[UNKNOWN]: Giovanna Evans, Arnold mentioned L.O.L.
[UNKNOWN]: y'all cooked like cry emoji, cry emoji, like you know voice the wrestling more like voices a verge the wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck you, rea Ripley is top falsals, falsals of rest.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right, right, whereas like all these Japanese and obviously it's going through like a translate app or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: So maybe it's not perfect.
[UNKNOWN]: But there's one guy that that was in the Yahoo comments.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to say John Carroll's listening, John will be able to
[UNKNOWN]: Let us know, but there was a guy who was very upset.
[UNKNOWN]: Calm Newman was so high because he doesn't like how much times he touches crutches.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like very upset about how much crutches touching the Calm Newman does it.
[UNKNOWN]: I assume it was like low blows or you know, blows the belt or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: But it just kept saying he touches the crutches or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: So on that kind of funny.
[UNKNOWN]: So Calm chill out on the crutch touching.
[UNKNOWN]: And then otherwise it was just like,
[UNKNOWN]: I understand why this person is not voted here and I do hope that next year the stars of New Japan for us will do better and they will be on this top 30 was very respectful a lot of the uh you know the people that would say like I was a bit surprised that like uh this man did not make the top 30 but they will have to do better next year or whatever so I appreciate that over java not on the list LOL
[UNKNOWN]: Left my ass off, cry emoji, cry emoji, y'all trippin', like, you know, me while they haven't watched any of these people.
[UNKNOWN]: No, they haven't watched any of these people, right?
[UNKNOWN]: No idea, any of these humans are, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but he must be ranked above them, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: Even though they have never seen the man, the man, men are the women Russell in this case.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, now you're right.
[UNKNOWN]: Why, because it didn't get to read it, at least to my knowledge, it didn't get to read it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I was less of that feedback.
[UNKNOWN]: I kind of enjoyed the nasty feedback now.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I kind of kind of get off on it in a way.
[UNKNOWN]: You have some fries, you get off a nasty feedback from people that hate you, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Surprising.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, they can't blame me for this one.
[UNKNOWN]: I had nothing to do with it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, it's it's if we're not doing stuff like this no one knows what you know if I think What other site did it would it would it would be just re-arrimply by default would be number one Just because she's re-arrimply Domestereo Oberfemi Giovanna I think in the consideration what they've actually done now.
[UNKNOWN]: Do I think some of those people were a little low?
[UNKNOWN]: I do but I don't think it like last year.
[UNKNOWN]: I was kind of annoyed.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought all right.
[UNKNOWN]: This is just silly
[UNKNOWN]: you know, inactivity and just lack of great matches from a lot of those people.
[UNKNOWN]: Obofemi probably should have been higher.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: But he's gonna 30-oh, I guess what you think.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a good point.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he should have been disqualified, actually.
[UNKNOWN]: That's an excellent point, rich guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, you got honorable mentions.
[UNKNOWN]: Regardless, but there you go.
[UNKNOWN]: That is up at Voices Wrestling.com.
[UNKNOWN]: By the way, if you want to go check that out, the voice wrestling at 30 under 30.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you could check out those honorable mentions, even though Joe was angry about it, but yeah, then the 30 for 30 through 16 was one post and then one through 15 was one post.
[UNKNOWN]: There's some blurs bottom and a little bit of their accomplishments and their ages and all that sort of stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, good.
[UNKNOWN]: Good work by Griffin as always on that and a real cool panel that we had as well a bunch of new people that joined in and voted this year and that was really cool list really really cool list and a good list and and one that I'm definitely proud of like you said that we are doing these things like match the year and FSM 50 and 3030 because yeah this is a rarity and because No other sites really do anything like this anymore we talked about greatest vessel ever obviously on on the Tuesday flagship and that's a fun project but that kind of you know we talked about some of the the
[UNKNOWN]: airs and maybe the way that voting went this year and some things that I think can maybe do to fix it in the future or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, we're like the last of a dying breed.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, those kind of poles and those kind of things are just they're really just almost not exist in these days.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's cool to still.
[UNKNOWN]: Where's where's my boy, Iran, Sonno?
[UNKNOWN]: Because I could tell you there are not 30 wrestlers under 30 better than that.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe he is an honorable mention, but let me, uh, that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there are not 30 wrestlers under 30 better than around Sonneau, they're just not.
[UNKNOWN]: I refuse to accept that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he was an honorable mention, I apologize.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm going to go on Reddit and post M-L-M-A-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-
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[UNKNOWN]: Clash in Italy, we got a lot of different directions to go.
[UNKNOWN]: People on a here is talk about the triple egg.
[UNKNOWN]: We're the very last people to talk about the triple egg.
[UNKNOWN]: And I used to get antsy about stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: But I don't anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that I'm a little more secure in the fact that we have our listeners who we're going to wait for our take on things.
[UNKNOWN]: So there's no need to rush out the takes.
[UNKNOWN]: But this has been talked about in the discussion.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean by that?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's good to be the final word on a hot topic and pro wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that undoubtedly this El Grande Americano versus the original El Grande Americano match is the hot topic and pro wrestling this week.
[UNKNOWN]: And a deserving lead topic here would have been the lead topic Tuesday if we weren't splitting up.
[UNKNOWN]: The topic was the lead topic the next day for any podcast that goes daily or happened to be on a schedule where they were going the next day.
[UNKNOWN]: I've had a lot of time to think about what I think about this match and formulate my takes.
[UNKNOWN]: And do you want me to go first?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it just goes first.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, go first.
[UNKNOWN]: Go first.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think that first of all, if you're considering this match part of the greater
[UNKNOWN]: W-W-E universe, so to speak, it's probably one of the better W-W-E matches that have been held under that umbrella in many years.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I have to think about whether I think it's the best, it definitely be up there.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought from a presentation standpoint, my God did they fucking nail it.
[UNKNOWN]: They made it feel enormous, and they made it feel enormous even by W-W-E standards.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that this match.
[UNKNOWN]: had WrestleMania level presentation and, and it's, you know, even maybe even bigger than a lot of big WrestleMania matches with the way that the, the entrances and they just made it feel huge, you know, in a way that,
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, WWE even rarely attains, which they never attained outside of a WrestleMania, and this would have fit right in this presentation on a WrestleMania.
[UNKNOWN]: And failed to do this year as WrestleMania 2, which was a complaint of a lot of people that have felt very, just paint by numbers as Mania didn't feel like anything felt like had a gravity or anything.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely felt huge, and I thought as far as the match went, obviously, and we knew this was going to be the case, incredible off the chart heat.
[UNKNOWN]: This was the most over-fued in wrestling coming in.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that every single fucking time.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that Ludwig Kaiser, I didn't call him Axel D. He's a call.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a deal at this time, at least.
[UNKNOWN]: I would go Axel Deter.
[UNKNOWN]: No, Marcel Bartel.
[UNKNOWN]: No, Ludwig.
[UNKNOWN]: Wait a minute.
[UNKNOWN]: The last one on your tongue every single time is his current name.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that Ludwig Kaiser was the most overbaby face in the business during the build-up to this, and obviously that poor itself out during the match.
[UNKNOWN]: So the incredible overwhelming amount of heat that this had certainly helped the match.
[UNKNOWN]: But it was a very good match.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it was a great match.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that the heat absolutely helped.
[UNKNOWN]: It was...
[UNKNOWN]: You know, this is not something that I would probably put in my top 10 for the year.
[UNKNOWN]: I could understand if some people would.
[UNKNOWN]: I still think it was one of the better WWE matches.
[UNKNOWN]: If you're considering a WWE match, maybe over the last two or three years.
[UNKNOWN]: But there were things that there were definitely some negatives to me.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that it very much felt like
[UNKNOWN]: It felt like WWE trying to do a Lucha Libre mask versus mask match, and in some ways it felt like a parody of a mask versus mask match.
[UNKNOWN]: That's probably an unpopular opinion, but that's what it felt like to me.
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't feel authentic, and a lot of people were saying, whoa, it was so authentic.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I disagree.
[UNKNOWN]: It really wasn't.
[UNKNOWN]: I have a huge thing that bothered me about it later in the match that we'll talk about.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I feel like they were, I felt like this was WWE trying their best to replicate an authentic Lucha Libre mask versus mask match.
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought that a lot of that in authenticity, in authenticity, in authenticity.
[UNKNOWN]: They all did.
[UNKNOWN]: Shine through.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought, I thought it shine through at times.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't think it was like some spectacularly worked match.
[UNKNOWN]: These are two very good workers, and I thought they did a very good job.
[UNKNOWN]: But it was also both of them a little bit out of their element with the brawling and trying to bleed.
[UNKNOWN]: I know Kaiser was struggling with bleeding himself at one point.
[UNKNOWN]: way too many diversions with the celebrities at ringside, the Pimpanella run in, which is part of the story.
[UNKNOWN]: I understand that the Pimpanella reveal that would have been a great spot on its own.
[UNKNOWN]: The problem is that we have to get every celebrity at ringside involved in a spot.
[UNKNOWN]: Do we really need that?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need that.
[UNKNOWN]: But again, that's the WWE effication of this kind of match that they insist on doing it that way.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that this is the kind of match where if you listen to it with the sound off, you don't think it's nearly as good as when you listen to it with the sound on.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't scream at your devices because I acknowledge that the heat is part of it in that count.
[UNKNOWN]: Of course, saying that doesn't count.
[UNKNOWN]: But what I'm saying is as far as the raw work, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: This wasn't some spectacularly worked match between the two guys and they're both very good and they were very good here.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's what's stopping me from taking this match from, wow, this was an awesome match to I think this is one of the best matches I've seen this year to one this is one of the best matches I've seen all time and there's a lot of people who think this is one of the best matches they've seen ever and I don't think I wouldn't even think I wouldn't even think about this match for I was thinking about the greatest matches I've seen ever.
[UNKNOWN]: And quite honestly, I don't think it would crack my list of top 10 for the year.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're only in June, would it be on my short list if I had to make a list right now?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, probably.
[UNKNOWN]: By the end of the year, though, I'm sure it won't be one of my 10 best.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was a very good match.
[UNKNOWN]: If I had to start rate it, I'd probably go 4 and a quarter.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd go about 4 and a quarter on this because you cannot deny the heat.
[UNKNOWN]: You cannot deny how hot the feud was, but there were a lot of things about it that bugged me, and when it was over, and after Gabel unmasked, and he tried to do this emotional, luchely-brace speech, it all came across like bullshit to me.
[UNKNOWN]: It came across like WWI imitating,
[UNKNOWN]: a classic luchely brain mask versus mask match as opposed to something that just came across organic and natural.
[UNKNOWN]: And the other one last thing I'll say now, I'm going to hand that down to you.
[UNKNOWN]: I got one more point is I couldn't even, and this could sound stupid because it did have so much heat and the feud was so hot.
[UNKNOWN]: But I cannot fucking help thinking about how much more I would have loved this.
[UNKNOWN]: If Ludwig Kaiser was,
[UNKNOWN]: a Mexican Lucha Libre wrestler going against Chad Gable who was pretending all of the time to be a Mexican and disrespecting Lucha, my god I would have liked it so much more.
[UNKNOWN]: If it was someone an authentic Lucha wrestler defending the honor of Lucha Libre against Chad Gable instead of you know what it is and I'll wrap it up with this.
[UNKNOWN]: It's that WWE thing that I always complain about.
[UNKNOWN]: This is heat with a smile.
[UNKNOWN]: It's heat with a smile.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't get the sense that these people want truly hate Chad Gable and want him dead.
[UNKNOWN]: This is heat with a smile.
[UNKNOWN]: This is people going crazy and they're into it.
[UNKNOWN]: But this isn't climbing over the rails.
[UNKNOWN]: And that, to me, I can point to a dozen.
[UNKNOWN]: mask versus mask match historically where there was real emotion not a motion with a smile and you know a lot of and a lot of the reviews i've seen kind of justify what i'm saying oh this was fun this was so much fun this was what wrestling's all about it's just it's silly and it's fun and and you know what though there's a
[UNKNOWN]: There's a limit to how far I can go at a match like that though, because the truly great matches of this ill-castorically, people weren't coming out of it saying, oh, this was such silly fun.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the essence of sports entertainment.
[UNKNOWN]: No, they were blood feuds where somebody wanted to kill the other guy and the hero goes over in the ends and fans wanted to climb the rail and attack to, and that's not what this was.
[UNKNOWN]: So those are the limits for me, anyway, rich crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so let's, I got a couple of things.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll start with the end.
[UNKNOWN]: And that is where I think I really divert from a lot of people that thought that the Gabel thing at the end when he unmasts was like genuine emotion and like really all really fart felt or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't think so, because here's the thing that they fucked up, and this is an easy win that I can't believe they fucked up.
[UNKNOWN]: Chad Gable should not be on the microphone declaring, I am Chad Gable.
[UNKNOWN]: I was born in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
[UNKNOWN]: I, yes, I am the original El Grande Americana.
[UNKNOWN]: That is again missing the essence of what makes mask versus mask matches.
[UNKNOWN]: Really great and to truly the best mass versus mass matches we always we cover almost every major one that happens These days, you know if it's in a CMLL or whatever the big anniversary show or anything like that or you know the big time ones We'll cover it on the show because I I truly find them to be very emotional matches I don't find them fun.
[UNKNOWN]: I find them emotional.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's a huge difference What's so emotional about a mask versus mask matches when it's over?
[UNKNOWN]: The one who loses is
[UNKNOWN]: kind of has to decide what their emotion is going to be.
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to be humiliated?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to be humbled?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to be sad?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to be mad?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to be hopeful for the rest of their career?
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to be scared for the rest of their career?
[UNKNOWN]: And a lot of that comes through in them having to sit there in their feelings, take that mask off and have the ring announcer say, this is Chad Gable.
[UNKNOWN]: He is born in, you know, that the essence of the ring announcer announcing it and the guy just having to sit there and for the first time ever have this crowd gays upon their face.
[UNKNOWN]: That is super emotional and that always gets me and like the family comes in and they hug their family and it's like, all right, this is
[UNKNOWN]: yeah yada yada yada he's 45 he's from Monterey like that I love that because it humanizes these these these cartoon characters immediately and that is one of the great things about a mask versus mask matches that the guy he takes the mask off and he's bloody and he's beaten and he's just destroying his you know like I said either humiliated or sad or mad or whatever that emotion is going to be you could see it on their face because the first time we're seeing these person's
[UNKNOWN]: saying I'm Chad Gable I was a grounded and explaining the story that's going on I was like dude you missed the essence again as they always do because definitely of course is gonna miss the essence so I always I really disagree with people that are like oh that was really emotional and that really got me I thought that sucked I thought they really blew the end there and I thought they put it guys the whole thing was tongue and cheek because we knew it was Chad Gable
[UNKNOWN]: We've known all along it's Chad Gable the whole feud was tonguey what because then the announcers too like the like he unmasked and tore Graeme goes oh, it was Chad Gable and Rey Mysterio because I knew it's I knew it was checking and it's like that's not Yeah, that's not what we're really the a great mask versus mask match does not have that like Scooby-Doo oh Who knew it was exactly oh long and it was Scooby-Doo bullshit at the end of this so that didn't I I didn't like that I thought they could have done that a little bit better and really begin they can't do that They don't know how to do genuine emotion
[UNKNOWN]: And they got so close to this match to doing it.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought they really blew it at the end.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't do that genuine emotion of Chad Gable just having to sit there and eat it while the announcer, you know, says his name and explains his story and so But no, he had a cut a WWE promo in English because you know, we're trying to get a TV deal in the US so we can't add it I think you mean you said I important word there.
[UNKNOWN]: You you called it a cartoon.
[UNKNOWN]: This was a cartoon feud all along
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that is going to present the ceiling in terms of how great this match can be versus other great mask versus mask matches because it's a cartoon feud where we're all where it's all tongue and cheek and we know it's Chad Gable and we know it's Ludwig Kaiser and as I said it's heat with a smile.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, even though it's a lot of heat, it's heat with a smile because it's a cartoon feud.
[UNKNOWN]: So how great can it be if you're starting from that starting point, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So I thought that was a good word to use.
[UNKNOWN]: And then one of the things that I thought it was a good match.
[UNKNOWN]: It was, it was, I mean, if you don't think it was, no, it was a good match.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the ceiling that I have on it is the ceiling I always have for these kind of matches.
[UNKNOWN]: And we tend to be the outliers here.
[UNKNOWN]: We thought that Cody and Roman a couple of years ago when everybody that's had that ever existed in the attitude era came out and interfered with their music playing or whatever Some people fucking love that because they love oh, it's the other taker.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's the rock.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's that guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's that.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's just remember this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: The the
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the ring music and an entrance music to match or whatever, and that's what that match Cody is just sitting there selling for 45 minutes while every Attitude or a star comes out and and does their little bit or whatever But we were the outliers a lot of people thought that was great and cinnamon yada yada yada yada or whatever So that's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: I was the outlier.
[UNKNOWN]: It's still gonna be no problem
[UNKNOWN]: All in, last year, again, we were the outliers of that, too, that this Avengers style big-time main event, because that's what we've kind of decided that big-time main events need to be now, is that if we're concluding this big story, if it's a good story in wrestling, you tell a good story in wrestling, and you conclude it, it needs to be this massive thing and everybody that had anything to do with the story has to be involved and make their appearance and come out and do it.
[UNKNOWN]: And that bothered me about this match, because I didn't need
[UNKNOWN]: the creeds.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need the girlfriend.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need pimpenella.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need and we had all of it.
[UNKNOWN]: We got all of that.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need the comedian that he got, he did whatever too.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need all that.
[UNKNOWN]: I could have just girlfriend with the ticket.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, it was just yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was, and so and again, go back and listen to my all in Texas.
[UNKNOWN]: No, you and I didn't separately, but I think you and I had very similar thoughts.
[UNKNOWN]: Similar points.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that sucked and a lot of people we really outliers.
[UNKNOWN]: We lost a lot of subscribers that month and I and whatever That said oh you guys all right, but but I'm consistent We did we actually didn't lose a little but they all came back because that was you But I don't know if it was them who came back Maybe not but I mean we're bumping beyond those totals now
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so either way either way more people have come, but a lot of people got mad because it was like no It was the conclusion and no, it's not the Cody Roman match.
[UNKNOWN]: No, and it was like it is guys It's the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just you like this company and and there's this wrestling is there's there's been more of this recently And wrestling and I don't like it and I don't vibe with it.
[UNKNOWN]: I much prefer a man I would have really love this match and it was just fucking
[UNKNOWN]: Chad Gable versus Ludwig Kaiser and they that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need the creeds.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need Rayo and Bravo to come out and even the odds or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need the girlfriend to show up with the ticket.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need the disabled comedian YouTuber guy to hit Chad Gable with his fucking uh cane.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need I didn't need the girlfriend with the ticket.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't need Pimpanella with the guitar.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I mean, I didn't need that.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you see, I think if you do one of those spots, I think the Pimpanella spot because she was so integral in the feud
[UNKNOWN]: But again, it was all on a cartoonish way.
[UNKNOWN]: It was Chad Gable, you know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: But people want that, though.
[UNKNOWN]: See, worthy outliers.
[UNKNOWN]: You and I don't need that, but people want that.
[UNKNOWN]: People want the Avengers.
[UNKNOWN]: They want that bullshit all the time, because they're, you know, look, they were very popular movies for a while, and the whole thing about the Avengers was, oh my god, I'm your man's here.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, I'm playing Panthers here.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, this guy's here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and like, I thought I think those all fucking suck.
[UNKNOWN]: I hate them, but there's an entire generation of people that that that feels big and important to them because everybody that was involved in this story and I get that I truly I I get how you would like that and I understand why people do enjoy everybody that was involved in this story They they laid it all out there.
[UNKNOWN]: They did everything that they could possibly do to wrap up this story and that's fine, but I just
[UNKNOWN]: kind of just like wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: So I just would prefer that these two people go in, wrestle, one guy beats the other guy and the other guy has to in mask and reveal himself that he was a, that he was Chad Gable and he was a fake all, you know what, that's enough for me.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need fifth, five different people to have five different stories wrapped up in this as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I just don't need that.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think the
[UNKNOWN]: essence of what you're saying is that for most people, all of that shit made the match better.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: For you, for you it made it worse.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I'm consistent.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, people love that all in Texas match with Moxley and Hangman.
[UNKNOWN]: I hated it.
[UNKNOWN]: I could stand.
[UNKNOWN]: I couldn't stand that.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, here's Swerve.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, here's Darby.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, here's this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, here's this
[UNKNOWN]: But the all-in, see, I do think when they did it all-in, it made more sense from a story perspective than when they did it at WrestleMania.
[UNKNOWN]: WrestleMania was just bell pops for the sake of bell pops.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I mean, that was the worst example of it for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, all-in at least they were, they, they really were tying up loose ends in those things.
[UNKNOWN]: And people will make that argument for WrestleMania, also, because they'll say it was all the people that Roman had wronged.
[UNKNOWN]: the fucking undertaker don't think that for a belpoth right okay there's no other reason they did that uh... yet and and this one too i mean yeah they you know it's state you're right there's just feeling with the big-time match
[UNKNOWN]: that you have to cram in every fucking part of the story and every person that was involved.
[UNKNOWN]: And I agree with you, it was one of the things as I laid out at the top that made the match that hurt the match for me.
[UNKNOWN]: And instead of helping it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd rather just see these two guys have an emotional one-on-one where they beat each other with an inch of their lives.
[UNKNOWN]: But here's the other thing, Rich.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, this was a cartoon feud, so it doesn't even
[UNKNOWN]: work for this kind of view to do it that way.
[UNKNOWN]: This might be the kind of match where you want to have all that extra bullshit because it's a cartoon feud.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: It's like we all know who's under the masks and it started as a joke.
[UNKNOWN]: It got over accidentally.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't mean for this rich.
[UNKNOWN]: Dom Stereo.
[UNKNOWN]: Remember him?
[UNKNOWN]: I can't find him with a fucking search project but I do remember him.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Because he was the hottest guy in AAA since since the
[UNKNOWN]: and this thing got over accidentally above and beyond what Dom was and took over and they ran with it wisely they ran with it, but it's like this was a cartoon thing to be a it wasn't it's not nearly as over in America as much as it was in Mexico and it never wasn't any point as over in America as it wasn't Mexico and it just took off and they ran with it you know and
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's not, you know, I'm not even sure that the style of match that we're clamoring for would have even been right for what the exhibit was all cartoonish to begin with.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: It really felt like a, see, I keep going back to,
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say it was a parody of a mask versus mask match.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not the right version.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a little off.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just WWE's, yeah, I'm trying to figure out the right word here.
[UNKNOWN]: It was WWE trying to match the energy of a classic mask versus mask match.
[UNKNOWN]: And all of the WWE tropes and ticks coming through.
[UNKNOWN]: which disallowed them to get there is I don't know there's not one word to roll that up parody isn't the right word.
[UNKNOWN]: Well I think it's just not understanding what an actual mask versus mask match is it's it's it's it's the concept of a mask versus mask match and done with a WWE style to it or daughter be flavor to it and and and not really understanding the essence of what makes them so special and what makes them so emotional and why they're so revered and so important in Mexico
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they really give a shit.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't really care enough to actually know why it's important and what it means or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: They just know, oh, what's two guys with masks and one of them guys takes his mask off afterwards.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I just, um, and that's kind of why I said if if the Grande Americana, instead of doing, if it would have been a Mexican, if it would have been a AAA wrestler, it
[UNKNOWN]: man.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that would have been the kind of heat that I'm looking for.
[UNKNOWN]: Not that heat would a smile that you often get.
[UNKNOWN]: And which, you know, ironically enough, we brought up Dom.
[UNKNOWN]: Dom for years in America got heat with a smile.
[UNKNOWN]: We've used talk about that all time.
[UNKNOWN]: It's fake heat.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, oh, it's Dom.
[UNKNOWN]: It's time to, it's, this is the part of the show where we boo.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't really hate the guy, but this is the part of the show where everybody booze and doesn't let them talk.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not all that dissimilar to that, because there is no great
[UNKNOWN]: hatred for Chad Gable you know that he wasn't he was there there was no threat of him getting stabbed walking down to the ring or anything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a really good match and it just it had a lot of things that
[UNKNOWN]: that brought it down a notch for me because it's not the kind of wrestling that I won't say.
[UNKNOWN]: That's really good.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was good.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought the praise that I've seen as seems a little extreme and it's certainly it's one of the examples that we always talk about is that all your dough to be fans and all the dough to be pundits or whatever will cross the arms and talk about sports entertainment and nobody cares about wrestling and nobody cares about Bell the Bell it's about entertainment stories or whatever and then anytime they get a morsel of an actual
[UNKNOWN]: Approximation of professional wrestling match.
[UNKNOWN]: They lose their fucking minds.
[UNKNOWN]: They go nuts.
[UNKNOWN]: They go nuts for it You give these people a sniff of actual good pro wrestling and they and they can't contain which is getting their own pants We're gonna talk about it with clash in Italy.
[UNKNOWN]: It makes the job that Paula Vecca is doing Even worse because it's like brother.
[UNKNOWN]: You have the easiest audience to appease You just have to not make it absolute garbage the wrestlers just have to go out there and do like
[UNKNOWN]: okay matches in the book he has to be okay like that's all you need to do in these fans fucking eat it up and yet they can't they just can't do it it's impossible they must have bad badges and the book he must be tear it just it's so crazy because then you see something like this which was a good match again we both think it was a good match and and and you're just seeing that like any time these fans get anything
[UNKNOWN]: that just even remotely resembles the wrestling that happens across the world, they go nuts for it.
[UNKNOWN]: And they love it.
[UNKNOWN]: And they adore it.
[UNKNOWN]: And they talk about how great it is.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, yeah, you could have this all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: You could have things like this all of the time.
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's exists in a lot of places.
[UNKNOWN]: And it has exists historically.
[UNKNOWN]: But you're also
[UNKNOWN]: Spending all your time telling everybody how everything else sucks and the only thing that matters is here So you're not you're not exploring it on your own, but it's just it was yet another example of that of yeah I thought it was a really good match and a you know really solid match and it was so fun to see everybody else Just lose their absolute minds for and it's like yeah, you guys yeah wrestling's pretty cool if you watch wrestling It's and actually you know care about wrestling There's a lot of really good wrestling out there in the world you just don't bother doing it
[UNKNOWN]: you just don't you don't look for it and then when it's given to you you lose your mind and you shit your pants and you think it's the greatest thing you've ever seen well a lot of this stuff is happening all the time right around you and you're either not bothering to watch it or it's happening in a w so you have to pretend you don't like it that's really what it comes down to
[UNKNOWN]: So there's a couple of comments in the discord that I did discord in the chat that I think are really good that I think are worth mentioning and then we'll move on and review the rest of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Grant Akuma is in the chat tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, Zach Grant Akuma and he says, this was less like an emotional lucha, a place to match and more like the midnight writer or the yellow dog losing their mask.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a different dynamic.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that nails it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's really, you know, that really jails the other time.
[UNKNOWN]: That nails the Scooby-Doo aspect that I'm talking about, or it's you take it off and it's like, oh, it was dusty roads.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, yeah, we knew it was dusty roads.
[UNKNOWN]: Obviously, it was those roads versus here is now this human being that used to be a cartoon character.
[UNKNOWN]: And now his whole life has changed in this moment.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: This is this is Hulk Hogan doing Mr. America on SmackDown.
[UNKNOWN]: is what it is.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's that kind of dynamic.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I don't know this guy's name if he wants to put his name in the chat because he has his goofy whatever the like his YouTube.
[UNKNOWN]: What's the username?
[UNKNOWN]: I remember most of these folks.
[UNKNOWN]: Do that's that's Jordan Smith.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe it used to be.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know what YouTube.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what the fuck happened to YouTube, but you got to fix that.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a while where people could put their names and then one day like because like I Who comes in here and I forget his name is ridiculous.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's his name.
[UNKNOWN]: This is his name.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you need a change it to something else.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's like says weird ass thing and I'm like, what the fuck are you saying it used to be like his full government name?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yeah, yeah, it's not bad.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's a weird username.
[UNKNOWN]: I forget what it is, but yeah, I there's a red spot cast I listened to and the same thing like they are having the same complaint because they had all these regulars in the chat and they don't recognize them anymore because they've switched it to the YouTube handles.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, instead of the, yeah, it's, and they're having the same problem.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, anyway, who'd you say it was?
[UNKNOWN]: Joe, I'd be the Jordan, Jordan's the name.
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, he's got another, he's got another decent comment here.
[UNKNOWN]: He says, that, he says, this wasn't meant for an actual lucha crowd before an American WWE crowd that wants to moon light as lucha fans.
[UNKNOWN]: And listen, this was done in front of an actual Mexican lucha crowd, but I understand the point he's making there, like this match was booked and laid out for Americans who were going to watch this thing.
[UNKNOWN]: The thing is, the AAA fans in Mexico as we have been told repeatedly.
[UNKNOWN]: by Cubs and by Rob Bahari and all these other people who are keyed in down there, it's it they're not traditional luchelibrary fans, they're they they a lot of these people were AAA fans before WWE got involved and they love that WWE's involved in their favorite promotion, now because they like this kind of grandiose sports entertainment style pro wrestling, so I think that's kind of a very accurate post as well when some of this thing up.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we always, the thing we always got was like CMLO is like the cork and haul, you know, those sort of fans or whatever that really appreciate the wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's some tourists or whatever they're there, obviously, but a lot of there, you're died and we'll see them all fans are some of the cork and haul Japan fans or indie wrestling fans or whatever they love wrestling and they, and
[UNKNOWN]: They always said the AAA fans, they just want to kind of drink and scream and have fun for a couple hours and they don't really care that Vampiro is being an idiot or pagano socks or anything makes sense or anything, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I just want to drink their big giant beers and scream for a couple hours.
[UNKNOWN]: And now they're getting WWE star power on their AAA shows and they're getting it produced in a much better way.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's everything about so now they're, you know, it look.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the production.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, the production night and day difference between what forget it.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a amateur hour now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's professional.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, and a thing about it is what a lot of people need to understand is AAA was drawing very well before WWE but AAA.
[UNKNOWN]: they had their fan base and they were drawing fair the vampiro stuff was drawing last year the year before whatever it was his nineteen retirement and nineteen drawing fair well I think it's like twenty nine at this point but yes anyway let's uh you want to talk about the rest of this show yeah yeah yeah let's do that all right so uh
[UNKNOWN]: We open up with Ray Phoenix and Elosmanout.
[UNKNOWN]: The Ray-O-Kin.
[UNKNOWN]: And the Ray-O-Kid, Cruiserweight title, Ray Phoenix wins the belt.
[UNKNOWN]: This was, I thought, much better than the spot fest on the TV show the week before.
[UNKNOWN]: It's for a spotty though, it's a, to a credit, a couple of menry.
[UNKNOWN]: I loved how many spots were in this match, and this one's great.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I thought this one was a lot better, and it also had the mega-heat.
[UNKNOWN]: There was mega-heat all night, because this was just a super hot crowd.
[UNKNOWN]: But I thought this was better than the match the week before where Lerado Kid took the shortcut punched him in the dick or whatever while the referee wasn't looking.
[UNKNOWN]: You had the figure Ray Phoenix was going to win the title here now that he, you know, Ray Mysterio gave him the rematch and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: So I thought a better match than the week before and we have a new triple A cruise weight champion.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I really liked it.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought they just had a ton of shit and it all looked pretty good and it was the perfect way to open this type of show.
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's exactly what I would do to open the show is get two guys out there and just have them fucking go crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought I didn't see the spot fest that you're talking about, but this was very spotty and a lot of stuff was happening.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, but it was all good though.
[UNKNOWN]: Because Ray Phoenix is a tremendous wrestler in Lureo Kids, a tremendous wrestler.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, it was like,
[UNKNOWN]: it was it was to me kind of classic high-flying luchely brace.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I was a good way to start this show and and and yeah, I really enjoyed it and I thought things get in the win was the right idea and yeah, really fun really fun opener All right, so next up we had
[UNKNOWN]: of Viking over, so he'll deduct her Wagner Jr., so Wagner 3, this was sort of Latin American title.
[UNKNOWN]: You can see how Vikingo has moved directly down the card.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
[UNKNOWN]: The further this thing moves along, these fans never really were embracing him to begin with.
[UNKNOWN]: The old regime was kind of just force feeding Vikingo to the fans as a baby face.
[UNKNOWN]: WWE recognized that they turned him heel.
[UNKNOWN]: really in the midcard from midcard titles.
[UNKNOWN]: He beats Wagner 3 for the belt.
[UNKNOWN]: They had Galenow run off.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, first he ran off almost.
[UNKNOWN]: Then many Vikingal runs in.
[UNKNOWN]: Then almost comes back to knockout Wagner 3 to set up the finish where Vikingo's is the 70-minute match.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a lot of interference for a 70-minute match, Joe.
[UNKNOWN]: And as the same thing you just talked about, everyone and their mother even tangentially involved in this program had to run in and get involved in this
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, in a seven minute match.
[UNKNOWN]: So this was kind of like, this was almost like old school trip away, where was just a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Just a lot going on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Can we really need this guy coming out right now?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: How about just one big spot with almost?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that we have to get him run off and then he comes back and then, you know, mini-viking, oh, and how about just mini-viking, oh, or gleno?
[UNKNOWN]: How about one or the other?
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: It's just a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: Just so much going on.
[UNKNOWN]: But, um, you know, people dig their fucking clusters, where there's a million people getting involved in everything.
[UNKNOWN]: new AAA Latin American champion.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I didn't like this at all because yeah, the interference was just a, it felt like they had no confidence in these guys to actually wrestle a good match.
[UNKNOWN]: It was just pretty wild because it's like, King going away in their three and it's like, I don't know, it seems like you just let the roll to ball out and let those guys go.
[UNKNOWN]: So they just over booked it and it was like, they had four minutes of perfunctory wrestling and then it was like, all right, hit the buttons and it's like almost comes out and then if I can't.
[UNKNOWN]: And then yeah, then it's just, W-W-E, it's story over match.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, too much for some minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: Way too much.
[UNKNOWN]: way too much for a for a little seven-minute match.
[UNKNOWN]: So we had the war Raiders they win the Triple A tag team titles.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you know they're one of the greatest tag teams of all time?
[UNKNOWN]: So JB, I'll tell me.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, JBL is that he just thinks that he says on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: I reckon I have all the important titles that I've recorded in this world.
[UNKNOWN]: It's choregrades one of the best tech teams ever.
[UNKNOWN]: I can shut up to the thing the thing JBL has to learn is there's a fine line.
[UNKNOWN]: If everything is the greatest thing you've ever seen, then nothing is the greatest thing you've ever seen.
[UNKNOWN]: He just puts everything over as the greatest fucking thing that he's ever seen.
[UNKNOWN]: And it just told you did you watch the show completely on English commentary the whole time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Rey Mysterio is a disaster on comedy.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he thinks he offers nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: He offers nothing and the problem is he trips up because Corey and JBL, and we've talked about this before the first on the first AAA show.
[UNKNOWN]: Corey and JBL are WWE trained announcers.
[UNKNOWN]: Corey Graves hits all the spots that you're supposed to hit, all the right cadences, everything you said to him.
[UNKNOWN]: He plays every no perfectly.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly what Vince McMahon taught Michael Cole who taught Corey Graves.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly how to,
[UNKNOWN]: So he has the WWE cadence about every single thing and JBL knows how to play off of that as the color guy because obviously he had a long run With Michael Cole getting taught and screamed out by Vince McMahon for you know, so he You know despite the fact that he's just talking nonsense the entire time He at least knows how to pick up on the cadences and understands what Corey wants to say how to how to lay out how to let Corey do his WWE and now to stuff
[UNKNOWN]: Ray is just like out there talking He just tripped up.
[UNKNOWN]: He'll just Cory's just like I want second and Ray's like, hey, JBL man You know what the fikings did and just like what are you talking about at JBL's like pauses Like I don't know what you're talking about Ray of course We better get back to the match.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like the Vikings JBL.
[UNKNOWN]: They they they they came to countries and they took over and they plundered A course and I wish you'd probably get back to the match.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just like racist out here talking
[UNKNOWN]: like and it's so funny that like Ray is just like a like talking like a human with talk like it's just a normal human being with talk and it trips up these WWE announcers so much but it's it's it's very bad because he's usually racing nothing of substance at all he's interrupting everybody he's just he's offering absolutely zero so yeah I I can't believe that Savio Vague it's like a massive upgrade of a Ravenster but he absolutely is Ray is horrible on commentary and I guess these guys were doing this remote to they weren't in the building which
[UNKNOWN]: I think I read that, which is wild, like you couldn't have these guys in the fucking building, but I guess Corey was in Italy or whatever, but I don't know, it sounded like guys that were doing, because they kept tripping over each other all throughout the night, but anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think Corey tries his best and does a good job.
[UNKNOWN]: He does the other two fucking sting.
[UNKNOWN]: And they offer nothing, but it that's look.
[UNKNOWN]: The WWE audience isn't looking for like great commentary.
[UNKNOWN]: They want JBL to tell you that the war raiders are one of the greatest tag teams of all time.
[UNKNOWN]: That, you know, they don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: They want that you could pull the string on the JBL fear goes, ah, ah, yeah, it's a literally brave.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it, Corey.
[UNKNOWN]: When it comes to WWE fans, they have no class, no taste and no standards.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm not laughing.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean everywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean it's a truth.
[UNKNOWN]: They have no class, no taste and no standards.
[UNKNOWN]: That should be the motto.
[UNKNOWN]: It shouldn't be then now forever together.
[UNKNOWN]: It should be no class, no taste, no standards.
[UNKNOWN]: It should be the WWE motto.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't pick on these people enough for being honest.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: The thing about this is the war raiders winning these titles means nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: The whole point of this was Pagano walking out on cycle clouds.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're going to get a Pagano cycle clown feud cycle clown another guy once the biggest star in this promotion, but now the WWE is now now all the fake Mexicans who are the top stars in the promotion.
[UNKNOWN]: and a German guy or your top stars are oxygen.
[UNKNOWN]: And an American tag team and everything else.
[UNKNOWN]: But Pagato and Psycho Cloud could potentially be a really big feud in AAA would have been probably bigger before the American invasion, but they've been setting this up for fucking ages at this point.
[UNKNOWN]: And the war raiders are just there as a debate could have been anybody they're just the team that they chose to send down there They're really aren't important in all of this.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all about uh, pagano walking out on cycle clowns.
[UNKNOWN]: So that was week one and then this Saturday we're going to get the uh, the six woman tag with lost toxicas
[UNKNOWN]: versus Lola vice, La Catalina, and it's Bailey, and then I guess they're doing that five way matches.
[UNKNOWN]: That can be next week.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Cruz Del Toro, walking wild, Lensay Dorado, many Vikingo and Octagon Jr. That's the one where Octagon, I think Octagon gets hurt in that match.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know how much of that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that the man that's we got spiked on his head?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I so I don't know if they actually complete that match or I don't know what goes on with that.
[UNKNOWN]: But
[UNKNOWN]: Well, hopefully outside of that there's lots of fireworks and hope the guy's not fucking seriously injured or whatever, but that's obviously there just to be fireworks.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so is that all they have?
[UNKNOWN]: Is that it for we too?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I think there's something, well, let me see if I could find it.
[UNKNOWN]: Because that doesn't seem like a whole lot.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there was, well, everything announced last week has either happened already or as the six woman tag was the only other match.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm sure they taped some other shit.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't imagine that those two matches are taking up the full.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: It's shows just those two.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if they're doing it.
[UNKNOWN]: Promotion shit or, yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe, but, um, tune in and find out.
[UNKNOWN]: She, I'm Raymond Stereo's going to go out there and, uh, yeah, well.
[UNKNOWN]: some stage.
[UNKNOWN]: So there you go.
[UNKNOWN]: So that was, uh, no, Jay, uh, deal with crime.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, let's do it week one week one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I think week two, man, might be a flagship plus topic.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to let you show.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to let you know that week two might be a flagship plus.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know that one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I might not get to that.
[UNKNOWN]: That might not be flagship proper real estate that card I'm looking at there, but, uh, we'll review it in some capacity.
[UNKNOWN]: So here's the important thing, I think just as important as everything they did during that night, and just as important as the mask versus mask match was what they announced during the show as well.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's a lot of movement going on in Mexico right now.
[UNKNOWN]: And AW will start with them.
[UNKNOWN]: They officially announced that Grandside Mexico will take place on August 8th.
[UNKNOWN]: So Grandside Mexico will coming back to, you know, obviously, Arena Mexico August 8th, tickets go on sale this Saturday for that show.
[UNKNOWN]: Friday tomorrow, tickets go on sale for triple mania two nights of triple mania as well as part of the WWE Mexico live tour and now here is the big news that I think not a lot of people are covering but probably should be talking about in covering because
[UNKNOWN]: It's happening that we we wondered and we've had that we had this discussion a couple months ago We were like, man, it's kind of weird that don't be bought triple a and they're just kind of not really, you know They're not stealing simile talent.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not really being very aggressive.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not really like running counter to them Not anymore
[UNKNOWN]: Mexico Live Tour.
[UNKNOWN]: They are running September 9th in Guadalajara.
[UNKNOWN]: These are WWE shows, by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: These are WWE shows in Mexico.
[UNKNOWN]: September 9th, Guadalajara September 10th, Monterey, September 11th in Mexico City, a SmackDown taping on that same night.
[UNKNOWN]: They're doing the first night of Triple Mania in Las Vegas at the Luxor.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to circle back on that in a second.
[UNKNOWN]: September 13th, they're in Mexico City for Triple Mania in Night 2 and then September 14th
[UNKNOWN]: for a rotating.
[UNKNOWN]: So that is three nights in Mexico City, September 11th, September 13th, September 14th.
[UNKNOWN]: And Joe, you're not going to believe this, but CMLL, as they've done since 1934, their anniversary show is in September.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's kind of wild and comes finally this all out.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I'll give him credit.
[UNKNOWN]: I obviously am luchable.com.
[UNKNOWN]: So, this year's sale anniversary show is going to take place on September 18th, they announced that in mid-May, by the way, so that in mid-May, they announced their show is going to be on September 18th, just to kind of cool you know what's going on here, triple media usually in August, this year it's in September.
[UNKNOWN]: To be usually runs Mexico City in October, they're running this year in September, and to be has not had a TV taping in Mexico City since 2011,
[UNKNOWN]: this year they're having a TV taping in Mexico City.
[UNKNOWN]: It really makes you think, doesn't it?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it seemed like for the first year or so of this takeover trip lay.
[UNKNOWN]: that they had been WWE had been suspiciously quiet on that front in terms of declaring war on CMLL.
[UNKNOWN]: They haven't really raided their talent.
[UNKNOWN]: They haven't really gone after them.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we've spoken about this.
[UNKNOWN]: It isn't a little weird.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I figured they would have raided after talent by now.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I know, you know, lock at the Lena, maybe a
[UNKNOWN]: one or two other relatively insignificant pieces have moved out even though other than her or if anyone has made the jump.
[UNKNOWN]: But look, this was going to happen eventually.
[UNKNOWN]: And this, I think, is what everybody feared.
[UNKNOWN]: And it sucks because they usually win.
[UNKNOWN]: And my fear isn't that
[UNKNOWN]: they can put CMLO out of business or anything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: CMLO is on very strong ground with owning those buildings and the history and the tourism aspects, all of those things.
[UNKNOWN]: And they happen to be starting from a very hot point, which helps.
[UNKNOWN]: But my fear is that CMLO gets shook by all of this.
[UNKNOWN]: and they think to themselves what we have to be more like them.
[UNKNOWN]: Which happens every time, every time, instant.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's so weird because my thought would be the opposite.
[UNKNOWN]: I would do the opposite.
[UNKNOWN]: I would say, well, let's keep doing what we're doing.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's do it, but it's never been the way that anybody has ever had dealt with Derby coming into their territory.
[UNKNOWN]: It's always, well, then we have to be more like that because fans want WWE style wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: So we have to give them Derby style wrestling and that's never going against a billion
[UNKNOWN]: and, and, although technically you're going against WWE and Philippe, but you get the idea, and, and you think that yeah, like you just said, that, well, we have to do what they're doing, or they're going to put us out.
[UNKNOWN]: And, and, and, and I, I just fear that that's going to be the case.
[UNKNOWN]: And we've already seen signs of that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I've done, I've done audio on this already on flagship pluses and whatnot, where, you know, we see the slow elimination of the, of the captain's matches.
[UNKNOWN]: We see the slow elimination of best of three falls.
[UNKNOWN]: We see more of an Americanized version of even CMLL now in arena Mexico and I think there's a lot of Johnny You know a lot more Johnny mooner than anybody needs to see, but yeah, and I think it's all a trickle down effect of WWE stick in their beacon and being a factor there and it's gross and it sucks and As I say all of the time welcome to the losing team
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, now Mexico is getting a taste of this.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just, it does not, it's, it's foreboding in all of the wrong ways.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is something that we have periodically discussed and talked about where it was eventually going to go down this road and here we are.
[UNKNOWN]: So they are attempting to burn out the markets before the anniversary show is what they're trying to do.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sure the anniversary show will still do very well.
[UNKNOWN]: take it for that one sale tomorrow as well so same day so all these tickets are all going on sale tomorrow which is going to
[UNKNOWN]: be tough.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's floating in the market right there.
[UNKNOWN]: That is done to be, okay, CML is putting your tickets on Friday.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, what's guess what we're doing?
[UNKNOWN]: We're putting triple many on sale, September 9th, the Guadalajara, September 10th, the Monterey, September 11th, September 13th, September 14th.
[UNKNOWN]: We're putting all those on, so like, you're, you're, you're, you're ticket buying audience now has, particularly Mexico City has access now to, four shows that they have to buy tickets for tomorrow or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: If, if they want to be a part of all this stuff and, and at pretty high prices and at, at, at,
[UNKNOWN]: you know, pretty high price points or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, it's it's classic wrestling tactics here.
[UNKNOWN]: It's floating the market burn out the territory It's classic WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: It's what they do.
[UNKNOWN]: They come in and they want to burn everything down and they want to run and own everything
[UNKNOWN]: And some people cheer that on.
[UNKNOWN]: I couldn't be me, but sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Great.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess if you like what they do I guess you I mean I don't know how putting CMLL out of business or hurting them is gonna enhance your enjoyment of AAA I but sure Yeah, it's a team sport now and you know that it's team sports like everything in this world
[UNKNOWN]: whether it's politics, whether it's fucking Xbox or PlayStation.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all team sports rich.
[UNKNOWN]: And obviously wrestling is very tribal in that respect.
[UNKNOWN]: And WWE is not going to just mind their own business.
[UNKNOWN]: They're there, you know, TKO is a ruthless company dead set on just quarterly and year over your growth.
[UNKNOWN]: And
[UNKNOWN]: WWE has always had the world takeover of wrestling, they've always been minded in that way and it hasn't changed and now they're more powerful than ever, so that's the attempt here.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, it's just, you know, we want me to say, I mean, it's just, it's the same playbook, it's the same thing we've seen for decades and they usually win.
[UNKNOWN]: And they usually went.
[UNKNOWN]: And my concern is the way CML sponsors, a lot of people who think that they're, again, are ready doing too many things that to Americanize their product and we're seeing, look, they're gonna load up the anniversary show with AEW talent.
[UNKNOWN]: because they're gonna feel like they need that to make it special and to help them draw and to counteract the American talent in AAA.
[UNKNOWN]: And a lot of CMLL fans think that there's already too much AEW talent on CMLL shows these days.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you're gonna get more.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, because that's gonna be how they combat this.
[UNKNOWN]: And that already is gonna be a negative for a lot of people who just want fucking arena Mexico wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: you know, that don't want Johnny Mundo in a hair match, you know, that don't want the gates of agony going down there, not knowing how to work the style and everything else.
[UNKNOWN]: So because believe me, not everybody that goes down there is MJF who goes down there and does a great job and gets it and has one of the greatest matches you'll ever see.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, not everybody's going to be able to do that.
[UNKNOWN]: So, um, yeah, very depressing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sucks.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: I wish I had something nice to say.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you get what's nice to say?
[UNKNOWN]: We were waiting for this to happen.
[UNKNOWN]: We were starting to hadn't happened.
[UNKNOWN]: And now it's happening.
[UNKNOWN]: So, um, yeah, it sucks.
[UNKNOWN]: It's there's no,
[UNKNOWN]: No ways around it, and a lot of what's been going on in AAA right now is obviously geared towards getting them a television deal, that's, we talked about this a little bit on Tuesday that for a while, Dordby was sort of inflating TNA to try to get them a TV deal and put them on equal footing with AEW, and that's obviously fell by the way side of it, and they pretty much never talk about TNA anymore, they don't really do anything related to TNA, they, this got announced while we were doing the Tuesday flagship, but great American bash, they announced
[UNKNOWN]: as, what's the EWP favorite view that that's up against?
[UNKNOWN]: For Bendor, is it for Bendor that I'm thinking of?
[UNKNOWN]: That's, I think so, because Slime of Versery is on the same day as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So, Slime of Versery and for Bendor will be on the same day.
[UNKNOWN]: So, Slime of Versery moved to a different day because they're like, oh, we don't want to go ahead to head to head or a different time during the day.
[UNKNOWN]: Cause they don't want to go ahead to head with for Bendor.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, then NXT is just like, yeah, we're going to go ahead to head with for Bendor.
[UNKNOWN]: So, it's, it's just, Well, that's one of the different times I think, that's going to hurt first.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's running earlier in the day, but they're all the same day.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, no, I think I think, I think great American matches going ahead to have it for been door and slam a versus earlier in the day.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me make sure I let me make sure I double check that because we'll see first and then I'll make the point I was going to make.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to make a point if it's irrelevant.
[UNKNOWN]: But I know that one of the shows is not is out of that time slot now.
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought it was NXT.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I think NXT is staying there.
[UNKNOWN]: But let me, once again, I'm finding last year's the Great American Bash, which was earlier in the day.
[UNKNOWN]: But let me, tentative schedule here on sec.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we're doing our live, uh, sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: You do get what too much when you do it.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, we just need to have the information correct.
[UNKNOWN]: So what we want to do.
[UNKNOWN]: So, um,
[UNKNOWN]: Now, damn it, there's last years.
[UNKNOWN]: I keep finding last years information, and I don't want to find last years information.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, let's see here.
[UNKNOWN]: So, NXT has had the same time, and slam a versery got moved.
[UNKNOWN]: So, slam a versery moved.
[UNKNOWN]: When they were initially going to be going ahead to head was forbidden door, then slam a versery decided, okay, let's move off of that, and NXT just this week announced that, oh, sorry, WWE, the Grand American Bash or whatever we take in place,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, on the CW.
[UNKNOWN]: So they'll be on the C. That's their first CW P on TV.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, on free TV.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, so busy day.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: but you know again that i think that just speaks a little bit more today don't really give a fuck about t and any more they did their t anything t and they got their deal they're kind of washed their hands of it and now the new thing obviously is getting triple a deal and that is why one of the nights of triple mania is taking place in Las Vegas at the fricking luxor like like you know what i'm saying it's taking place in this like time i think it's at that fucking hyper x arena right that they did all the
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: It's at that time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you watched.
[UNKNOWN]: You watched far too much wrestling for the press.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, last year.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's clearly just like inviting network executives to go watch this Luchelie Bray thing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I can't.
[UNKNOWN]: How many people can you put any height for X arena?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even come the Vegas watch our show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck a stripper gamble.
[UNKNOWN]: and then give us money to regret your TV deal later.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess it's at the Luxor Theatre, and not the HyperX Arena.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know the difference in capacity for the Luxor Theatre.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the best fucking casino you could go to the fucking Luxor and then nowhere else you can go.
[UNKNOWN]: I had to dump it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was a dump when I went in 1999.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't even imagine.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm always surprised at it.
[UNKNOWN]: Every time I fly in, I'm like, that fucking Luxor is still there, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm throwing that thing down yet, all right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You always say it's, I never, I don't, I didn't stay there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the milk sink.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, it smells like mildew.
[UNKNOWN]: Smells like, I like, I don't know, a dirty laundry matter, something like this, I don't think mildew.
[UNKNOWN]: Just, yeah, dirty.
[UNKNOWN]: As soon as you walk in, little wet, kind of wet.
[UNKNOWN]: That, and the X caliber, too, the one that's a fucking castle gimmick.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I spent a lot of time because the nitro grill was there at the X caliber, so I went to the nitro grill.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that one smells too.
[UNKNOWN]: You walk in, there's some guy jacked up on steroids wearing chain mail, you know, and it's like, it's got spider with an axe or something pop up up doing the gimmick.
[UNKNOWN]: How do you do visitor?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and it smells like fucking mildew that yeah, both of them stink.
[UNKNOWN]: They're and they're always very cheap rooms.
[UNKNOWN]: you know, because they stink and you get in the room.
[UNKNOWN]: The rooms are old.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't upgrade anything.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't want you in the room, though.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's why TVs and Vegas stink.
[UNKNOWN]: They're always old TVs with like four channels.
[UNKNOWN]: They want you out in the room.
[UNKNOWN]: I say that.
[UNKNOWN]: I say it medley band.
[UNKNOWN]: They actually had a TV in the shower and a TV in the.
[UNKNOWN]: There was TV everywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, what do you do here, guys?
[UNKNOWN]: That's new Vegas.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're like, they're, you know, they're not treating you
[UNKNOWN]: They're not trying to see it used to be that TV would have like four channels and one of the channels was Kino that you can bet from in your room.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what?
[UNKNOWN]: But get out there and fucking play asshole, all right?
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing to do up here, you know, standard definition, ABC, CBS, NBC, you know, and the Kino channel.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the Barker channel trying to sell you tickets to whatever fucking show they have in that could see that like that was it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, but that's a better Vegas, honestly, not even like Vegas, but that is what I want out of Vegas.
[UNKNOWN]: Not, you know, I want this sleazy.
[UNKNOWN]: We got to get you down there to the tables.
[UNKNOWN]: We got to get you to the tables because none of this fine dining.
[UNKNOWN]: We got a buffet and we got tables.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, dollar, but don't leave it, please stay here.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't see the, I don't, we don't want you to know whether it's night or day.
[UNKNOWN]: Just come on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And wander our halls and eat our $12 buffet, drink our free drinks, and put some fucking money down on these tables.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, you know, now it's on you.
[UNKNOWN]: Five course meals, and he's fine dining, and yeah, you know, garbage.
[UNKNOWN]: We tried the family thing for a while too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what I went.
[UNKNOWN]: I went during the, every, every place had an arcade or whatever, and everybody was all, yeah, treasure island, and the ex-calibur, and all that, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And then they have, I don't what they call that little strip in between where the flamingo used to be, it's basically like an outdoor mall, you're gonna rest around.
[UNKNOWN]: They got a free much street.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, where the full mingo is.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you can see no, that was called the flamingo and it had all pink and it was a real old dusty.
[UNKNOWN]: And they knocked it down and they built like a, it's called this, there's a name, the quad, there's something like that that the probably built it around 10, 15 years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: But again, that was part of the whole, the link, the link.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay, yeah, and that's got like,
[UNKNOWN]: chain restaurants, things you could do with your kids, and you know, it's very much, and the two surrounding hotels I forget which ones they are are very not, you know, D. Martin's not going to be strolling through the lobby, put that way.
[UNKNOWN]: It's, it was where the flamingo was, they knocked it down and...
[UNKNOWN]: The quad used to be that's why I was thinking the quad the quad was one of the ones they knocked down They knocked down flamingo the member imperial palace that one was a total done.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh In here.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and the clad they knocked all those down and then they built something called it's called the link and it's you know It's that was that whole We're gonna turn Vegas into a family destination era, and that's kind of It was very problematicly Japanese, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Is that the one I'm thinking of?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember that aspect of like a pagoda and like I think it had like you know the fucking paper Probably yeah, it was clearly what they were applying there by imperial There were no high rollers at the imperial palace though.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like like the flamingo was built in like the 70s and they never did anything to up Just all very everything old and in both style and in structure and it was you know no one we're told the flamingo is still there
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know about that.
[UNKNOWN]: That was definitely, unless they rebuilt it because that was right where the link is.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm the wrong guy to ask.
[UNKNOWN]: I get in and out of there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's quick as possible.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care where anything is.
[UNKNOWN]: I just go to wrestling and leave.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, yeah, here it is.
[UNKNOWN]: It says the link on the property located north of the original Flamingo.
[UNKNOWN]: See, that Flamingo is gone.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the original.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they put another one up there.
[UNKNOWN]: There might be another flamingo, but the original flamingo was definitely knocked down because that's right where the link is.
[UNKNOWN]: I could believe circus circus still hanging around.
[UNKNOWN]: I drove by and I was like, yuck.
[UNKNOWN]: Look at that place, that was so brutal.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it ever took a $39 or $39 room.
[UNKNOWN]: There's something like that and I was like, yeah, it looks like a place that is $39 rooms.
[UNKNOWN]: That's probably the worst one down there now because that's the one with the infamous buffet where it's literally like microwave food.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm serious.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like chicken nuggets and like just just total garbage like they and that one has a an arcade in it Like you're talking like there's an arcade on one of the floors That's another one that's trying to they want you to bring your family there because the kids have shit to do and I think it has the arcade that's slowly Rotates for some reason.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, which doesn't make any sense and I don't understand why you would want to get a gimmick.
[UNKNOWN]: You gotta have gimmicks Yeah, I guess so
[UNKNOWN]: That seems like a needless gimmick, but yeah, I'll give it an end last, but there you go, see we had some fun after we read the depressing story of WWE taking over in Mexico I don't know if you saw that completely unrelated, but dreamwave wrestling
[UNKNOWN]: obviously in the cell and I said obviously like never knows it's in the cell and I drew a wrestling they had they do an all-women's promotion as well they announced a bunch of women's wrestlers for an upcoming show on the announce today that four of them were taken off the show and let's know all of them were w-u-e-i-d talent so
[UNKNOWN]: That's starting already again.
[UNKNOWN]: As we said it would, you know, the, no, no, you could book.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna come on, you could book and we don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: You could book anybody, or not, contract it off.
[UNKNOWN]: We're just paying them a little bit but they can still take their indie bookings and it's like, it's similar to the NXT UK.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the same fucking playbook that they did there too.
[UNKNOWN]: Where it's, you know, little by little, it's like, wow, now you can't book that.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't book them on this show.
[UNKNOWN]: These wrestlers, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: And then eventually, people are just gonna stop booking these people.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yep.
[UNKNOWN]: World Wrestling Entertainment folks.
[UNKNOWN]: I speak enough.
[UNKNOWN]: World Wrestling Entertainment?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, global brand.
[UNKNOWN]: We're a global brand.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I wish what they should do is fucking learn how to book some goddamn wrestling and book some wrestlers and book some young wrestlers because, uh, WWE Clash in Italy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, ESPN WWE premium live event from Turin.
[UNKNOWN]: Corey Graves, Michael Cole, first two matches around the ESPN proper, again, Cody and Guantar and reapply versus Jade Cargill in the rest of your show.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, is that Jack forgot about that?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so the press release is must be flying.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, name us to done great, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Ah, let's go to the tummy of the tummy of the tummy of the tummy.
[UNKNOWN]: I always love this because I want to see what shitty college sports they're touting and not saying a thing about okay Yeah, I got it on it's like bookmarked.
[UNKNOWN]: I've I typed in You're a viewer.
[UNKNOWN]: I tell you I'm immediately gave you the Twitter account for yes, because it knows Much I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Let us go to ESPN PR because yeah, I imagine I must have just missed it, but they probably just posted something as we're live here on the air so let's
[UNKNOWN]: Go to ESPN PR.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: What we have is let's go ratings wise.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, four hours to go hockey fans.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we're tuned in.
[UNKNOWN]: The quest for the cup began Tuesday night.
[UNKNOWN]: So I stand like a final match up to the golden nights never again.
[UNKNOWN]: It's delivered the most viewed game one since 2019 with 4.8 million viewers for the
[UNKNOWN]: classic hockey match above Las Vegas and Carolina.
[UNKNOWN]: So there you go.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see, we'll find some more ratings here.
[UNKNOWN]: I imagine La Liga.
[UNKNOWN]: You like the La Liga?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I mean, it scored its best ever season in the United States on ESPN platforms, the 2025-2026 season reached 20.1 million viewers and the 3.9 billion minutes watch up 10% at 11% year over year.
[UNKNOWN]: What ridiculous stats are those?
[UNKNOWN]: It's cumulative viewers and cumulative minutes watch, but La Liga.
[UNKNOWN]: doing well on ESPN.
[UNKNOWN]: So let's see here.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to scroll.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure it's coming up any minute.
[UNKNOWN]: A record setting start to the hashtag road to Omaha.
[UNKNOWN]: ESPN delivered its most watch NCAA baseball regional round on record of 38% year over year.
[UNKNOWN]: Volunteers versus VCU 804,000 viewers, Auburn versus NC State 659,000 viewers and Arkansas versus Kansas, 560,000 viewers.
[UNKNOWN]: So there you go.
[UNKNOWN]: So everything, but that'll be done.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, hold on, yeah, we're getting pretty down the scroll here.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I know, so, oh, here we go.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I know, no, no, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Most watch women's college world series, pre-finals on record.
[UNKNOWN]: What is that?
[UNKNOWN]: Most watch women's college softball pre-finals on record.
[UNKNOWN]: Through 14 games, 1.5 million average viewers for the women's college world series pre-finals.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... oh here you go uh... last saturday's denver outlaws win over the defending champion pll at least what the fuck is this i don't even know what this is professional lacrosse professional lacrosse it is yes any title game uh... rematch score double digit increases year of year on abc
[UNKNOWN]: This is embarrassing.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Ross.
[UNKNOWN]: No one marks all the way.
[UNKNOWN]: It won't be.
[UNKNOWN]: Dojo, they delivered 16% year over your growth, over what they were doing last year.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, we're getting pretty low here.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, it's not there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not.
[UNKNOWN]: You have found it.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, fans showed up for regular season for the UFO.
[UNKNOWN]: up.
[UNKNOWN]: So 14% on ABC you're over here.
[UNKNOWN]: So they either don't care about it or it just didn't do any impressive.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, whichever one is pressed with the numbers or they don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, pick which is worse.
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's one of the other.
[UNKNOWN]: And I guess they would know if it's or how would they know if it's driving subscriptions because
[UNKNOWN]: I guess they'd have to do one of these paper views without the free matches and see how many buys come in versus how many buys they're getting when they do give the free preview of a couple of matches and say, all right, well, this is or isn't drawing subscriptions when we try to, you know, give people fobo by showing them a couple of matches, but
[UNKNOWN]: They're obviously not impressed with the viewership.
[UNKNOWN]: They never touted it.
[UNKNOWN]: They never touted it, not one time.
[UNKNOWN]: If they didn't tell WrestleMania, they weren't going to tell this.
[UNKNOWN]: So, that's just never on there.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, it's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they ever actually has ASPN and PR ever mentioned WWE.
[UNKNOWN]: No, not one time.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, you know, it's like, it's strange.
[UNKNOWN]: You pay a lot of money for it.
[UNKNOWN]: And you don't even attempt to,
[UNKNOWN]: you know, even figure out a way to make you could make numbers dance no matter what the numbers are.
[UNKNOWN]: You just read exam.
[UNKNOWN]: They're giving you across numbers.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's six.
[UNKNOWN]: And they just don't do it.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't bother.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: how every one of these media outlets they get into business with WWE and it immediately feels contentious of like immediately every time and then it won't matter this contract will run out and somebody else will say raw take half a billion dollar take the half a trillion dollars I don't know how to say half a trillion it'll be a half a trillion he's six hundred billion dollars for a nineteen year deal on and fuba or whatever the fuck
[UNKNOWN]: on booboo or crackle or zing zang or whatever to fuck and then in two months they're disappointed and they have a contentious relationship and they're putting out cold statements when people ask them about how things are going it's crazy how many times are we going to see this for Pete Fox and peacock and ESPN and it's like almost everybody they do business with is disappointed
[UNKNOWN]: And I guess we're going to find out when Netflix, when that five year, we've got to be halfway through it this plan, maybe only a year, year and a half or something.
[UNKNOWN]: But they've got that five year out, right, and get out after five years.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yep.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're going to learn a lot then of what they think of the global views and all of that.
[UNKNOWN]: So, I don't know, already whispers with the SPN giving AEW a tab on their wrestling page
[UNKNOWN]: they never fuckin' learn.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even saying it's not a viable investment, but they always give them too much money.
[UNKNOWN]: It's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: And then immediately you're a great, and yeah, it's always the contentious, like, like, Lacklin Murdoch, they were like, two months in and they're done to be deal and he's already bitching and moaning about how they're not delivering on the numbers that they thought.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Man, it's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: give them a billion dollars like how do you give them a billion dollars in the middle of our let's see okay and and and maybe just look at what other people have done when they've given them a billion it just doesn't matter well matter and again it won't matter like you said fubo will give them fucking Amazon will give them a two trillion dollars next time it won't matter yeah yeah go either our reason anyway uh... so clash in Italy
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, an interesting show.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a five matches.
[UNKNOWN]: LaVec really, uh, stretching it out a little bit and going, oh man, I simply cannot drop any of these matches from my, uh, premium level event.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm giving them five spectacular sports entertainment, uh, uh, matches here.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, let's, we'll start at the top.
[UNKNOWN]: Undisputed WWE title.
[UNKNOWN]: Cody Rhodes versus Gunther.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought the match was pretty good.
[UNKNOWN]: It was kind of just, let's just do everything.
[UNKNOWN]: It was kind of a sprint in a lot of ways.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't really slow it down for a while.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was a decent enough WWE, main event match or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: And then fucking Coney Rhodes hits the crossroads.
[UNKNOWN]: Goonther has to very carefully slide underneath the ropes.
[UNKNOWN]: Coney goes to pin him.
[UNKNOWN]: They count one, two, three.
[UNKNOWN]: Goonther loses, but.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Paul, he's got a little bit of a sub-knit-a-s-back pocket here.
[UNKNOWN]: Because Goenther is like, no, I was underneath the ropes.
[UNKNOWN]: How did you count that pinfall?
[UNKNOWN]: So the idea is that he should not have been counted because he was underneath the ropes or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: So Cody defeats Goenther, but Cody needed to pin a guy who was in the ropes and Goenther had to lose, but then was in the ropes.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just like, he's just cowardly booking, not been down the show.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just, Paul is such a coward booker.
[UNKNOWN]: in so many ways.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that this, I was stunned by how much of a nothing match this was.
[UNKNOWN]: I just thought this was a nothing match and by the end of it, I'm just thinking to myself that LeVec has no idea what to do with Gunther.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.
[UNKNOWN]: No idea what to do with them and it totally fits all of LeVec's booking patterns where he has like an idea to start with.
[UNKNOWN]: and then has no idea ever how to follow up with anything or see anything through.
[UNKNOWN]: And you have Goon through who you're pushing hard, he's retiring, people left and right, he's got this gimmick where he retires big stars.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know, Levette doesn't know what, he, I get the sense that Levette has no clue what the end point is for Goon through.
[UNKNOWN]: He just doesn't know what to do.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, all right, well, let's wait around until there's someone else to retire or we'll keep that going.
[UNKNOWN]: And I mean, the guy retired Sina and we called that like we saw it, not a great night and there were people insisting that this was the rocket pack that go through needed and they just made themselves a new top guy from this point forward.
[UNKNOWN]: He will be, you know, and it hasn't bore itself out at all.
[UNKNOWN]: He's in the same exact place he was always in and he retired John Sina.
[UNKNOWN]: in a very poor matter, but he retired John Cena and we knew it sucked and he and as he looked, he's in the same place.
[UNKNOWN]: They will vex has no idea how to see through a push with someone like he doesn't know what to do.
[UNKNOWN]: No clue.
[UNKNOWN]: So, well, we're going to put him in the match because it's in Europe and maybe that'll matter to the draw and
[UNKNOWN]: But we can't beat Cody yet, because now we're gonna hint around at Cody and Roman.
[UNKNOWN]: So we gotta beat the guy, but we'll protect him.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll have his leg underneath the rope.
[UNKNOWN]: And the guy's just treading water.
[UNKNOWN]: He's in the same exact place he was in.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's very clear they have no clue what to do with him.
[UNKNOWN]: Why you even put him in the match?
[UNKNOWN]: But someone else in there do you could just beat?
[UNKNOWN]: Because this isn't like, if you think this is a precursor to something or building something, it's not.
[UNKNOWN]: Stop, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Stop it.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not letting it play out with Paul of that booking anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: We're done.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not playing out.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to play out.
[UNKNOWN]: Just stick L.A. night in there.
[UNKNOWN]: Stick whoever in there.
[UNKNOWN]: First of all, this wasn't even the main event of the show.
[UNKNOWN]: That was Roman Reigns and Jacob Fattu.
[UNKNOWN]: That was the hardest pushed and biggest match on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think this show would have drew one less fan if it was L.A. night instead of going through or in certain whoever here.
[UNKNOWN]: So you don't have to put Goon through in that position where you're like, oh shit, how do we protect them?
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to, you don't have to put them in the match.
[UNKNOWN]: If you know, and you can, and it works on the other end too, because you can just have Cody beat somebody and look strong, come and out of it before they do the romanties.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: But he's a cow.
[UNKNOWN]: He books like a coward.
[UNKNOWN]: So instead you get all these like codies, wins, or always these weird kind of something happen.
[UNKNOWN]: And Cody rarely just fucking hits his moon, pins a guy in the middle of the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: It's always something there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's always some sort of weird protection thing or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: And when he wants guys to lose, he, yeah, it's always like, again, it's these weird sort of protection things to do it on.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just cowardly booking.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just have Cody beat, Ellie night.
[UNKNOWN]: Just have Goonther beat somebody on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: If you really want to push Goonther, haven't beat people.
[UNKNOWN]: If you want to have Cody be a dominant champion, just have him be people, but they don't.
[UNKNOWN]: He just doesn't want it to be good.
[UNKNOWN]: They're put someone else in there.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to put good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you put the Corvo in there.
[UNKNOWN]: You put someone else in there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a work.
[UNKNOWN]: You can do whatever you want.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you put, you know, it's, um,
[UNKNOWN]: Worst in being a cowardly booker is he's a cowardly booker that doesn't have a plan That's uninteresting non-planned coward booking, which is a terrible combination and we're seeing It's why it which is why this promotion stinks and why these show shows always stink But we got a lot more to unpack.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, so yeah, this is the least of our problems on this night Yeah, really Ripley and Jade Cargill so I talked about the
[UNKNOWN]: guys on steroids at the x caliber where in their chain mail will jade car kills was wearing chain mail in this match and it kept exploding all over the ring on every bump.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you notice that?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: There were just pieces of her bump in here with the referee like sweeping it up picking it up.
[UNKNOWN]: It's incredible, you know, she's just got gear made of like fucking metallic hoops and they're just Explo- they're exploding like like fucking sonic losing his rings when he runs into a fucking Yeah, and you're like oh fuck I had 98 rings and now they're all fucking gone You know that she was like sonic losing his rings when I went he runs into a coupe a troupe or whatever And fuck like that's what was happening.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're you're
[UNKNOWN]: And, uh, and Sonic here.
[UNKNOWN]: For God's sake.
[UNKNOWN]: So, do you think I know where Koopa Troop is emanated from?
[UNKNOWN]: I would think you would.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't you think I know that?
[UNKNOWN]: You can't just let it sit.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a terrible joke, because they just see you.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not a joke.
[UNKNOWN]: It's, I don't know what the enemies and Sonic are called.
[UNKNOWN]: So, I just said Koopa Troop.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they're not.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all.
[UNKNOWN]: They're wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm gonna tell you you're wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, but I know it's right.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't let you be wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: No, the swing could stand for that.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not gonna stand for it either.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, he's annoying.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you want to be like, so I'm filling it for him.
[UNKNOWN]: What I'm doing there is I don't know what the enemies are called in Sonic.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so I just, there's a lot of different, what, what, what specific Sonic enemies are you talking about?
[UNKNOWN]: Because I feel like there's a lot of different to me.
[UNKNOWN]: Not important.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, it's not a robot.
[UNKNOWN]: They're all like a little robot animals, right?
[UNKNOWN]: We're back in the, the, the, the, the point here is,
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know the names of any of the Sonic enemies so I inserted other famous video game enemies Yeah, that's sloppy.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a point.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that sloppy?
[UNKNOWN]: It's just it doesn't matter.
[UNKNOWN]: See it doesn't matter.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it does.
[UNKNOWN]: Clearly it does.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it matters at all.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter.
[UNKNOWN]: People get the idea.
[UNKNOWN]: When you say, when he runs into Koopa Troopers or whatever, the fuck, that implies that I understand that there's not Koopa Troopers in Sonic, it just doesn't matter what the enemies in Sonic are called.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the point there.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not important.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so of little importance that I'm willing to just call them Koopa Troopers to make the point that I had to make.
[UNKNOWN]: okay so it doesn't matter though like it's not that I get the fact wrong I if you know you're wrong it's that the whatever the fuck a dendom on there is telling you that I'm well aware that they're not called kupa troopers that's the point here
[UNKNOWN]: And I went with Koopa Troopa because they're famous.
[UNKNOWN]: A famous video game.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's right.
[UNKNOWN]: To show, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just talking about the enemies in the game in general of which I don't know the name of in Sonic the Hedgehog.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't go with tails.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't go with fucking.
[UNKNOWN]: Knuckles.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to go with a Doctor Robotnik.
[UNKNOWN]: Would that make you happier if he runs into Doctor Robotnik?
[UNKNOWN]: And he loses all his fucking coins?
[UNKNOWN]: That make you happy, it was a great shot of it.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, well, I'll go, how about that then?
[UNKNOWN]: Slip that in there, edit this up and add that.
[UNKNOWN]: Slip it in there seamlessly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, when Sonic runs into Dr. Robotnik and loses all of his coins, that's what Jake Carke Hill was like in this match here, it was utterly ridiculous.
[UNKNOWN]: We got to talk about B-Fab.
[UNKNOWN]: a statement I never thought I'd do what we do for the on this night we do normally we do not but yes we we got to talk about be fab let's do it we we we got to talk about be fab you had one job be fab you had one job one job and she can't even do that why is this person employed she fucking stinks at everything they have 900 people collecting dust
[UNKNOWN]: In that fucking, uh, in that warehouse, they got down.
[UNKNOWN]: The $1 million plan of fitness as suit Williams calls it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can find someone who's not horrible at everything like she is.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you can find someone where if you said, hey, what's going to happen here is the referee is going to count one and two.
[UNKNOWN]: And before the referee counts the three, you're going to grab her leg and put it on the rope.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, somebody in that million dollar plan of fitness can do that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm assuming they can do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Someone.
[UNKNOWN]: Be fab with the exception of Tang DeLoa and he knows can handle this task.
[UNKNOWN]: Would absolutely fuck that up, really.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, she stinks.
[UNKNOWN]: She can't wrestle.
[UNKNOWN]: She can't talk.
[UNKNOWN]: She just told him that she blew this the most important spot in the match because she was nowhere to be found.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if the fuck she was doing.
[UNKNOWN]: OK?
[UNKNOWN]: What purpose does she serve?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, do you think that there's people old retired wrestlers who didn't, you know, make, who didn't make a ton of money, who are they have to be watching someone like her thinking how to fuck is she making all this fucking money when I was on the road 300 days a year and was good at my job and now she's it, she's terrible with everything and she's making shit tons of money.
[UNKNOWN]: It really isn't fair.
[UNKNOWN]: There's really something wrong with that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, she is utterly useless.
[UNKNOWN]: And now that Dwayne the Rock Johnson's daughter finally got the hint and exited out of this shit, BFAB might be the least talented person in the necklub.
[UNKNOWN]: That's an interesting quote.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, she might be there.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we noted that Tamina Snooka is still technically under contract.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think she is like the emeritus, but I'm so I'm going to take her out of this because I think she is like the honorary like worst wrestler on that roster.
[UNKNOWN]: So actively, yeah, be fat probably is.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, again, she should be fat as horrible.
[UNKNOWN]: You can't put her in the ring.
[UNKNOWN]: She can't wrestle.
[UNKNOWN]: She can't promo.
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, she couldn't.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the forpillar didn't see this.
[UNKNOWN]: Her job was to put Jade Cargill's foot on the robes, so the referee would count one, two, and before she kind of three, she would look at the ropes and Jade Cargill's leg was on there.
[UNKNOWN]: She missed it.
[UNKNOWN]: She just didn't do it.
[UNKNOWN]: She went to reach for the leg and didn't grab her leg and Jade, Jade, fucking Jade Cargill of all people.
[UNKNOWN]: Realize, why would I get my fucking foot on that rope right away?
[UNKNOWN]: So she, thank God, Jade Cargill is still a greenous grass with smart enough to put her foot on the rope
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, the foot, like you know what I was just, it looked ridiculous, it looked odd.
[UNKNOWN]: But her putting the foot in the rope defeated the purpose of the spot was supposed to be that her, that her girl's helped her.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: And not only did she miss her, the literally whiff on grabbing her leg, she was also in our late.
[UNKNOWN]: Where the fuck was she?
[UNKNOWN]: Was she off having tea or somewhere to fuck was she?
[UNKNOWN]: You literally have won some espresso, get some espresso.
[UNKNOWN]: What is she doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Get a crazy sandwich and a piazer or something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: God, this shit fucking stink.
[UNKNOWN]: Now she's bad.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's really bad.
[UNKNOWN]: Also, when you have me, like, here's the thing here and this speaks to, uh, we don't know who the funny.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know who the producer of this match is, or maybe we do, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: We always know the pretty, anytime a good match happens, it's like, ah, draw a fight full selectus learning that this guy was the producer of this match, or whatever, you know, it's always, um, when you have fucking Mia Yim slash mechan be the one to do, like if you have a, you have B-Fab, and you have Mia Yim, I would trust Mia Yim to do anything else in a wrestling ring.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that the thought process is anyone can handle and it's very clear that they cannot handle that.
[UNKNOWN]: So just terrible all around.
[UNKNOWN]: It's funny how
[UNKNOWN]: the last person standing from hit row is by far, the least talented.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Nick, Nick, Nick.
[UNKNOWN]: But we'd swore, you know, who was the whole lot of it?
[UNKNOWN]: It was AJ.
[UNKNOWN]: Donis, yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Adrian, via dinosaur.
[UNKNOWN]: AJ, Adrian, Adonis, Adrian, via Donis, and Topdala.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And the least talented person in that quartet by far is the only one still employed by the company.
[UNKNOWN]: What is that to who he always pops up and like ring of honor all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: A shanty.
[UNKNOWN]: He had a dinosaur who he miles days always in ring of honor all not all good for him.
[UNKNOWN]: Occasionally is a ring of honor.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a good little wrestler good little wrestler.
[UNKNOWN]: No charisma no brings nothing else to the table, but a good little wrestler guy.
[UNKNOWN]: It should be employed if he wants to be so.
[UNKNOWN]: The match was also not very good at all, as you could probably assume.
[UNKNOWN]: It was all utterly ridiculous, so you have, obviously, Jordan or Lance match?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's not that hard though, to that.
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't a disaster like that match, but it's the stuff, it's the instances of what I want out of wrestling, and it's some people love this shit.
[UNKNOWN]: So you have Jay Cargo getting quote unquote bailed out by her team, by putting her foot on the robes, but Jay had just had to put her foot on the robes.
[UNKNOWN]: whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you have the the baddies or whatever the fuck be being afraid.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't really have to say this.
[UNKNOWN]: Beating up real Ripley.
[UNKNOWN]: And then out of nowhere, it just so happened to be Charlotte Flair was ready to come from the crowd.
[UNKNOWN]: Can we explain like what is the K-fabe reason that Charlotte Flair just happened to be walkily through the crowd in Italy at exactly the time that the baddies were beating up.
[UNKNOWN]: It's because they're friends now rich and she knew that J. Cargill would be up to no good So she waited 15 minutes into this match and said up at the baddies attacker.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna jump in From the crowd loot Italy Just in case she would be neat and then she waited till the end of the match to get out there or so yeah
[UNKNOWN]: The baddies were out there the entire time being bad and then she put Ria's foot Yes, yeah, that's story-telling The story-telling this is the brilliant story-telling that you get on a WWE show the frenemies So yeah, can they get along the the get along shirts of a rear-ripply and Charlotte Flair We also had in this match if you're if you're playing Dota be being go at home The baddies did their little thing in the referee one you
[UNKNOWN]: You!
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: You're on it here!
[UNKNOWN]: The bag was, yeah!
[UNKNOWN]: Yay!
[UNKNOWN]: So I came in there.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you still popping?
[UNKNOWN]: Like a 1987 house show where they've grown.
[UNKNOWN]: We're still popping.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not fucking...
[UNKNOWN]: Send in the matters of the back.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, God.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Enough of this garbage.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's get to the Brock Lesnar.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Bethem.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because this man's fucking ruled.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: God.
[UNKNOWN]: This was so good.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm still sweating from this one.
[UNKNOWN]: What a great match this was.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, listen, we have to separate.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, first of all, the idea that Brock Lesnar is back and he's eating old book.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's all utterly preposterous.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have the scissors.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have any care for what they do.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, fuck it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just watching the match and the match fucking rocks.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
[UNKNOWN]: Rock is just F-5 in this guy all the way.
[UNKNOWN]: He's purple, he's in a flop sweat, he's just beatin' the fuck out of this guy.
[UNKNOWN]: He's the best.
[UNKNOWN]: F-5 in this guy from Sicily to Turin' to Rome to fucking Venice.
[UNKNOWN]: Everywhere in the building.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, through the fucking table on the outside, get some back on the inside.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this was just, I love this shit.
[UNKNOWN]: To me,
[UNKNOWN]: Um, this was like my match at a weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: I, I just love this fucking match, and, but, but yes, it's utterly fucking prosperous and stupid.
[UNKNOWN]: They finally do something good, right?
[UNKNOWN]: They just have old befemmy.
[UNKNOWN]: They just have old befemmy beat Brock Lesnar.
[UNKNOWN]: They have, they take a, a new fresh.
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to say young, but again, we're not sure.
[UNKNOWN]: We take a new young fresh unexposed talent that the fans are really love.
[UNKNOWN]: And they just have them beat.
[UNKNOWN]: an old guy who's been ultra protected his whole career and you're going to get something out of that and not only that, he retires the mother fucker and they undo that in a span of what?
[UNKNOWN]: 45 days or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: Just a bunch.
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever it is.
[UNKNOWN]: So they just totally undo that and Brock comes back because you have to have the 50-50 booking because Paul LeVec is a coward with no plan.
[UNKNOWN]: and uh... all he knows is everything's got to be fifty fifty and uh... and anything that was gained by obafemi beating Brock Lesnar and under five minutes in retiring him has been lost because now he's in a fifty fifty-few group rock and if he goes over in the end so what it won't have half the impact it's just retiring the guy would have had but uh...
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so from that standpoint, you just, you can't have nice things in this company.
[UNKNOWN]: They even when they back themselves into something good and cool, they find a way to ruin it, and that's exactly what they did.
[UNKNOWN]: But because I don't give a fuck about any of their dopey stories, they're the way that they do things.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not really like bothered by it.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't make me upset.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: And what I saw was Brock Lesnar throw this guy around.
[UNKNOWN]: The entire country of Italy for for six minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: It's 21 seconds and it fucking rocked.
[UNKNOWN]: And, um, and then Brock's talk and shit afterwards.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: What are one bitch?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: One in one bitch one plus one one in one bitch.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's what I want out of my wrestling I just don't think this is the right way to pop a sweaty guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah to do seven of his moves to a guy pin him and then say one plus one bitch
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm so happy with that.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you know, it's just a shame that it had to happen in this particular feud.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, let again, we have to reiterate, having Obaloo's is awful and terrible booking.
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't fucking care.
[UNKNOWN]: I have no emotional investment.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to let it play out.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to, I just, I think Paul Levex booking is terrible.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: So I just want to watch cool shit.
[UNKNOWN]: And this was really cool.
[UNKNOWN]: And now, Ober will come back and they'll have a 50-50 match and he'll win and then people will pretend it's a big moment that Ober beat him and settled the feud But it's like, yeah, they went 50-50 and I mean, Ober got no moves here.
[UNKNOWN]: He came into the room.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's got it.
[UNKNOWN]: Brock attacked him before the bell put him through a fucking table and then at five to seven times then pinned him like we can't even like it wasn't like Ober had even a chance in this match He got well the protection the protection was he kept kicking out
[UNKNOWN]: that's the idea.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: The idea is he kicked out of a bunch of F5s.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he was resilient.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess he lost six minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Brock don't get paid by the hell.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: And did you think he was going there?
[UNKNOWN]: We're going 23 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you know, it was, I don't even want him going 23 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: This is what you want out of Brock every time.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just so fun.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm doing the retirement things so quickly, it's just, and they get no, nobody cares.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's just contractual obligations outside of the United States as they try to explore the television.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, that's what's.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what's.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, he won't be back ever again, I'm sure.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, this was simply fulfilling contractual obligations outside the United States.
[UNKNOWN]: Like they don't get enough shit for the, like you said, we're not hard enough on them for this.
[UNKNOWN]: We, yeah, we don't pick on these people enough, the fans in particular.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: no class, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no taste, no
[UNKNOWN]: I thought Soul Ruka was a lot better here because, I don't know, she didn't really fuck anything up.
[UNKNOWN]: She fucked up the Sasuke special was the only one, but that wasn't too bad.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, and there was the one moment, too, where Becky Lynch had to loudly sweat and say, other way, other way, other way, other way, other way, and then they had to cover for us and I bet you looked taking a lot of time on the ropes here, because you're trying to do a top rope leg drop, and soul was facing the wrong way.
[UNKNOWN]: So Becky waited and waited and then realized how fuck she doesn't realize, and then just started saying, other way, other way, other way, really loudly.
[UNKNOWN]: And then hit a really bad top rope leg drop.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't know what she's saying, so, you know, I think they know English more than we would say.
[UNKNOWN]: So, aside from all of the shit that Soul Rooka fucked up, she didn't fuck anything up.
[UNKNOWN]: So, that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but look, for the Soul Rooka main roster standards, that's pretty good.
[UNKNOWN]: She did like 15 moves and only fucked up too.
[UNKNOWN]: That's because lately she's been fucking literally everything up, so this is good.
[UNKNOWN]: This is good that she's only fucked twice.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we're a long way from being compared to Will Osprey versus Ricochet.
[UNKNOWN]: We are a long way from those halocondes.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we've already talked about this.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't really train anybody down there.
[UNKNOWN]: They teach them to do, move, state, they practice their,
[UNKNOWN]: take over PLE paper view matches in the fucking warehouse for a month and then they go out there and do their perfectly rehearsed match and it shows when they get called up rich when they don't understand other way that's to be screamed at them for 30 seconds to complete a move and it hasn't been pretty they put the title on or though Jessica Carr was the referee again so we're out there telling
[UNKNOWN]: WWE style stories.
[UNKNOWN]: Becky loses and she's shivering and crying because she lost the WWE women's intercontinental time.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: With its storied history and deep lineage.
[UNKNOWN]: So, so gets the title and she's crying as they hand her the title here.
[UNKNOWN]: You are now the WWE women's intercontinental champion.
[UNKNOWN]: You deserve it.
[UNKNOWN]: They said.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: You follow in the path of
[UNKNOWN]: Why revelcuria maybe?
[UNKNOWN]: I think possibly.
[UNKNOWN]: Becky.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know who else.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, didn't.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't age it.
[UNKNOWN]: I get a run.
[UNKNOWN]: AJ.
[UNKNOWN]: Because that was the first time big time backs lost the title and shivered and cried.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot then.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I think I think that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see.
[UNKNOWN]: Vaccine do pre.
[UNKNOWN]: What's the champion?
[UNKNOWN]: Good.
[UNKNOWN]: Good job.
[UNKNOWN]: How do you?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: 49 day reign as a intercontinental WWE women's intercontinental champions.
[UNKNOWN]: Another well-trained polished worker in the on the WWE roster from the PC.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh boy.
[UNKNOWN]: Anything else on this piece of shit or you want to move on to the main event?
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's in the main event.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so Roman Reigns doesn't fact defeat Jacob Fattu, beat him clean and definitive as clean as you're going to beat him in the defeats the Jacob Fattu and you know it it's it's crazy because the fans are behind Jacob Fattu and this thing and Roman Reigns is the once again the cocky tribal chief and doing all of that
[UNKNOWN]: and Michael Cole's commentary after the finish of this match.
[UNKNOWN]: And I quote, the Simone Warrowulf has been neutered and domesticated.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like again.
[UNKNOWN]: they don't even tell the proper stories that they try to tell in the story telling company.
[UNKNOWN]: You're supposed to feel bad for Jacob Fattou here, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Like you're not supposed to like Romans the asshole in this story.
[UNKNOWN]: Like the next night on Raw he's making Jacob Fattou bow down and get on his knees and kiss his feet and declare him the tribal chief and you know join the bloodline and you don't understand this now but I love you and all this other shit and they're totally redoing the bloodline again because they're bereft of ideas.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, complete with right hand man and nobody's bitch in there as well.
[UNKNOWN]: They're a little shirt.
[UNKNOWN]: I cannot, yeah, when they ran out, I was like, oh my god, they're, it's just the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just literally.
[UNKNOWN]: You didn't think, now listen, did you watch Raw on Netflix, which was great.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe it, and I missed this week's Raw on Netflix.
[UNKNOWN]: Literally the same thing, they've got Jacob Fattu bowing down and they've got nobody's bitch in right hand man and there making faces and we don't know which way they're going to go and they don't know where he's thrust.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're doing their just doing the same fucking thing because they don't know where because Levec never has a fucking clue where he's going with anything.
[UNKNOWN]: And after this match, we actually had the audacity to have solo Sokoa standing there in the crowd with taller Tonga and whoever the other one was I don't remember, yeah, we're going right back down this road with the failure solo Sokoa because they don't have any ideas right they had so Roman leaves the ring after this just bought by the way, you're not going to believe what they went through a um
[UNKNOWN]: I was just like a hit each other with shit they went through a barricade it was all you know play dirty being or whatever I got it all right there you you've won bingo you got it all wasn't a very good man for boring very very I mean if you think this is just listen cage match has this at 5.7 so yeah, such as those this was a nothing match Yeah, such as us and a lot of Roman min match promo bullshit, you know Oh, man, you're gonna acknowledge me tomorrow Jacob
[UNKNOWN]: I do it for the family.
[UNKNOWN]: I do it for you.
[UNKNOWN]: I do it to help y'all.
[UNKNOWN]: Right back to 2021.
[UNKNOWN]: He told them that last night on Raw.
[UNKNOWN]: He said, you don't understand now, but this is all because I love you.
[UNKNOWN]: Jacob, fine, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's just all the same and in a week or two, and Uso will decide that he's not sure if he Trust Jacob or trust Roman more the other Uso will say, oh man, come on man It's about the family and also will have conflicting thoughts about whether he wants to follow Roman or not Or if he sees through Roman
[UNKNOWN]: He sees the Roman and then the audacity and then this match end and then Romans walking out with a fucking music playing and they zoom out And they show souls to co-ah there where they other shitty talking And it's just like at the Carlos Tonga Yeah, it's like you're really you're really generally excited
[UNKNOWN]: And that's all that's going on.
[UNKNOWN]: I know you're not.
[UNKNOWN]: You're lying.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I guess the other one was Tomatanga because the other two were been fired.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right, right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: Like Jeff Cobb is, well, J.C. Matteo is gone.
[UNKNOWN]: And, and, and, and, and tangoloa is the next Dwayne de Rock, John, listen, what did Tony Khan?
[UNKNOWN]: What fucking inning are we in Joe?
[UNKNOWN]: This game is too long.
[UNKNOWN]: Put a pitch on.
[UNKNOWN]: If Tony cons not on the phone with the next doing the Rock Johnson as we speak to get him in there, and it would be so, it would be available.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what we're thinking.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so it had to be Tomatanga with taller Tanga, with the, with the, with the, the fucking zilch of all zilch of all zilch of all zilch of all zilch of all zilch's.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're doing that again.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to go down that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that hole, when they tried just the first time it didn't work.
[UNKNOWN]: So but they don't have any other right.
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't be surprised if they rehire Jc Mateo intanguloa He's like we got a rig.
[UNKNOWN]: We got a rebuilders the or maybe Zilla Fattu's yeah, maybe it's finally time for Zilla or Who was the one that beat up the guy Samu?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh man.
[UNKNOWN]: I know he's coming back
[UNKNOWN]: You know, an authentic Samoan, Manu, maybe the bringing him back, maybe what's black pearl up to L.A.
[UNKNOWN]: Smooth, some of these might be the same man, but I'm just saying there's plenty to choose from if they want to, you know, re-ignite the troops and go down that road, but we're really doing all of this shit again.
[UNKNOWN]: It's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to be as hot.
[UNKNOWN]: It can't be.
[UNKNOWN]: No, of course not, but I have the money idea.
[UNKNOWN]: I have the money idea.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, we've got Roman, and he is once again, the Tribal Chief, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Should be giving this away on a free podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's the way.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm giving it away.
[UNKNOWN]: We got Roman, who has, in fact, the Tribal Chief.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, not to QB1.
[UNKNOWN]: He after the match, he said, QB1, what's with that nonsense?
[UNKNOWN]: It's about the OTC, the people like this, people think this guy's good, man.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck.
[UNKNOWN]: Fuck me.
[UNKNOWN]: So, he is the Tribal Chief.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We have his cousins or Jimmy J was about the way out if you knew that for their cousins Jacob as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: And now he is subservient.
[UNKNOWN]: Jacob said you're right.
[UNKNOWN]: You won.
[UNKNOWN]: You are the trapple chief sir, and he was totally amassulated on roll.
[UNKNOWN]: They have right hand man and nobody's bitch back in the foes because we unfortunately do not remember which is which so just go with us and that's right and Jay made him and Jay is once again fucking side kick Jay and big Jim is back in his role as either right hand man or nobody's bitch.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not sure which it doesn't matter.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're
[UNKNOWN]: This time around, Dan Housing is gonna slip right in there.
[UNKNOWN]: Now think about it rich creature.
[UNKNOWN]: This has a little pepper, it's like a little pepper necklace, but it's a little tiny like sport peppers or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: They're gonna slip Dan Housing right now that same, he's gonna be cursing people.
[UNKNOWN]: Roman's gonna be laughing at the curse, but he's not gonna, I'm telling you.
[UNKNOWN]: Right through, this will be the gigaling in the background.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Think of the zany hijinks that the bloodline can get all up into with Dan Housen.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't hear it so much, but it also is, are you telling me that would, that you get out the printing press and just print the money rich crates?
[UNKNOWN]: Are you getting me?
[UNKNOWN]: That's the play.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the play, Dan Housen in the bloodline.
[UNKNOWN]: In the semi-zane role.
[UNKNOWN]: You're copy in the whole thing anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: What fucking difference doesn't make?
[UNKNOWN]: You're telling me that wouldn't work.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it would work much better than it should.
[UNKNOWN]: It would absolutely work.
[UNKNOWN]: you know that's a winner of an idea that's I hate how much of a winner of idea that is I fucking hate damn how's it interact comes out of there yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah rain's roman rain's roman yeah he's like who's this guy do you know this guy JJ's like nah brother I don't know him cuz I don't know man only about him cuz but big jim will take a liking to him and big jim will be like yeah man I don't know we should try him out
[UNKNOWN]: Money Jordan brings up he'll have the necklace of teeth instead of the necklace of peppers I said he'd have little sport peppers, but the teeth and set is like, yeah, I got my own He's gonna try to present to Roman with you.
[UNKNOWN]: I've a gift for you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah Chief of the tribe.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it'll get over it.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll get over it.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I make a are you kidding me?
[UNKNOWN]: Godly amount of money.
[UNKNOWN]: This is how you make the company hot again.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the idea
[UNKNOWN]: The where Wolf of Samoa, he will call, you know, take a photo.
[UNKNOWN]: All you do is rearrange the words.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all he does.
[UNKNOWN]: It's very simple.
[UNKNOWN]: You just rearrange the words.
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: That's someone that said, he'll mix up Jimmy J on the time and they'll get mad.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm joking.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: For the last time, I'm big Jim.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, nobody's finished, I think.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know which one I am.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it, that's the idea.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just gave it to them for free.
[UNKNOWN]: I just gave it to them.
[UNKNOWN]: There you go, Paul.
[UNKNOWN]: We just saved you again.
[UNKNOWN]: I just did, because that would be red hot.
[UNKNOWN]: That'd be hotter than the first time around.
[UNKNOWN]: But if they don't do that, it'll never reach the heights of the first time around.
[UNKNOWN]: It's recreate the whole fucking thing with Dan Housing.
[UNKNOWN]: Roman will be having this big, serious stare down with like, Cody or something.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the music is.
[UNKNOWN]: You are perfect.
[UNKNOWN]: D-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they don't want to be obvious.
[UNKNOWN]: Like Roman doesn't want you to think he believes in the curse, but he's trying to get into Danhausen's head.
[UNKNOWN]: So he curses Cody, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Because he kind of thinks maybe there's something to it.
[UNKNOWN]: There's so many directions you can go.
[UNKNOWN]: I should apply for a job.
[UNKNOWN]: I should apply for the job.
[UNKNOWN]: They can bring me in.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll just do this and then I'll, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: Bring in the Danhausen joins the bloodline.
[UNKNOWN]: You just want like a percentage of Danhausen merch sales and then you're out, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's payous salary, I think he'll just give you a push.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you're depressed at this idea.
[UNKNOWN]: I am so good.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm horrifically depressed at this idea.
[UNKNOWN]: And it'll work too, and people will say it's brilliant.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the other problem that I'm depressed about too.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a good story to us, a cinema.
[UNKNOWN]: And there'll be a nine-hour WWE video about it.
[UNKNOWN]: And people will be like, I don't want to brush stories over for a talk.
[UNKNOWN]: That doesn't apply to the Jeopardy chevier J, they're not sure, which is so...
[UNKNOWN]: trying face laughing emojis for days.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Dead house and said, what, Elameo?
[UNKNOWN]: No, fam.
[UNKNOWN]: He called the, he called Chibi J. Oh my god.
[UNKNOWN]: Elameo.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: All the eating things he can do, he can... Oh, god, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: some of the chairs said, large you so in heat, you who was so cool.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a good idea.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I look how they came out.
[UNKNOWN]: They just have shirts, it's just like, more so on them, it's like, it's like, I can't wait that man like, main event of Wrestlemania, like, won the Royal Rumble two years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And now he's a bad to be a bit player.
[UNKNOWN]: So back, right back.
[UNKNOWN]: So good.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't describe how we're doing the bloodline again.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's coming.
[UNKNOWN]: I think, uh, Ellen, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Alan cheap shot he had a good tweet all about trying to let me see if I'm finding her how long the bloodline's been going on for You know, we're past the innings analogy because that I mean what we're in the fucking third inning Was that 20 22 we're in the third inning or whatever the fuck Paul he said bottom of the second okay, yeah Unfortunately, Alan tweets too much so I can't find it so forget it
[UNKNOWN]: It's the idea to give a list of people here.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, I found it.
[UNKNOWN]: The WWE Bloodline storyline is at, this was June 2nd, so I had some days to this.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that 1,789 days in counting?
[UNKNOWN]: Things that have outlasted it include the entire WWE attitude era, which he says from late 1997 until WrestleMania X7 in April of 2001, that was 1,230 days.
[UNKNOWN]: World War I lasted 1,400.
[UNKNOWN]: and 68 days.
[UNKNOWN]: The mainstream career of Nirvana lasted at 927 days.
[UNKNOWN]: The American Civil War 1,518 days for the Civil War.
[UNKNOWN]: The Beatles' global touring era was only 929 days.
[UNKNOWN]: The entire presidency of Abraham Lincoln.
[UNKNOWN]: 1,533 days.
[UNKNOWN]: The lifespan of the app vine.
[UNKNOWN]: Remember vine?
[UNKNOWN]: I do 1,454 days.
[UNKNOWN]: The doors with Jim Morrison 1,642 days, the entire NWO storyline, 1,723 days.
[UNKNOWN]: So it has now passed the entire NWO storyline.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if that includes NWO 2000.
[UNKNOWN]: I would like to know that.
[UNKNOWN]: A standard college degree is approximately 1,060 days, so a four-year college degree can get that.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see here.
[UNKNOWN]: The Apollo Man to Moonlandings, 1,239 days, all those longer than the Boyline store.
[UNKNOWN]: But it'll work again.
[UNKNOWN]: Incredible.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll work again.
[UNKNOWN]: Incredible.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, not a good premium live event for the young, quote-unquote, young talent in doubt of you.
[UNKNOWN]: Gunther loses, obel loses, fat loses, and Cody, Brock, and Roman prevail.
[UNKNOWN]: Hand this stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Hand this company $500 billion.
[UNKNOWN]: Again.
[UNKNOWN]: Keep giving them the money.
[UNKNOWN]: Give them more, I say.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not enough.
[UNKNOWN]: Let him take over Mexico.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, I'm getting a little impatient.
[UNKNOWN]: When are they coming to Japan?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was JBL was quoted on his podcast saying that he believes that we could do very similar things in a Japan to what they're doing here.
[UNKNOWN]: And I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: They probably could.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's always been the heart that's been the toughest.
[UNKNOWN]: That's been the toughest.
[UNKNOWN]: Not to crack for them.
[UNKNOWN]: But.
[UNKNOWN]: might be a good chance to do that now would would people pay me to come on here and talk about Cincinnati Reds baseball if that were to all her I mean I might have to go if I could do it yeah there'll be something they'll be something we'll find some wrestling somewhere come on so I'll show you how to again no no South America's got to have something
[UNKNOWN]: South America.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm running out of places.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know where else.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's not Dragon Gate.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you that.
[UNKNOWN]: Shunt Skywalker is leaving Dragon Gate.
[UNKNOWN]: Joe after his match at Rainbow Gate, he said he would leave Dragon Gate to quote, go back to the heavens.
[UNKNOWN]: Another some initial speculation this might be an angle.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... would be the first time shunist he's leaving drag and he's done a couple times uh... but on uh... blue sky j dragates uh... english commentator i heart dg j uh... seen indicate that it is not in angle he says quote not in angle shunist leaving uh... last will be world at the latest hometown show at the earliest it's fine it's like when shingo went it's not like it was stopping any momentum or making things any worse there's nothing else to do if he doesn't want to do anything it sucks but their bigger problems with
[UNKNOWN]: or without him.
[UNKNOWN]: And now other very good sources have told us that it is not an angle that he is actually out there.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm sure there will be much more to talk about on the open the voice gate coming up in a couple days here with a mic and case, but yeah, he is he's leaving.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're going to try it.
[UNKNOWN]: It looks like they're going to try to turn it into a negative.
[UNKNOWN]: I did you watch the promo that he cut.
[UNKNOWN]: if it's an angle they're fooling a lot of people who would know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, and we're being lied to by people that have never lied to us ever before.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's yeah, I don't think they're doing an angle in the sense that like they're trying to like they're he's leaving like here's the thing he's leaving.
[UNKNOWN]: and they're doing like a like he cut this problem saying he was going to leave and like GM site to run in the ring and try to yank the microwave from him or whatever and he oh had like a surprise fate look on his face like what do you mean you're leaving what the hell like you know so they're kind of doing that sort of thing so that's the angle apart but he's fucking easily from everybody that we have listened to and trust uh with sources in there the guy's gone and he's leaving yeah
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I mean I mean and if it's a if it's a work which it's not we don't think it is, but if it is a work and they've Gone to these links to full everyone the question you always have to ask with a work is to what end what would be the point of making everybody think the biggest star in the company is leaving
[UNKNOWN]: to just pissed off your fanbase to get them to not buy tickets because they don't think he's gonna be there.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, so I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: It sure seems like he's really leaving.
[UNKNOWN]: They'll do the best they can with it.
[UNKNOWN]: Storywise.
[UNKNOWN]: Dead about 980 people in Corican for this show, by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're doing a very good job of not making people buy tickets now.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know if this story is gonna help those things either.
[UNKNOWN]: And when you consider that, you know, not that long ago in terms of years, Dragon Gate was the king of Corican Hall.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... the most successful promotion in Japan and drawing fans cork and all that the cork and sell out streak that went for years before the pandemic so the state of this promotion you could you know whether it's whatever his reasons are you you really can't blame him if he thinks that he's on the sinking ship and and wants to uh... see if he could latch on somewhere else
[UNKNOWN]: It's an odd time in Japan right now and sometimes these things are strange where you would think, all right, well, this guy is incredibly talented and was a top guy in this promotion and you would think, if this were America, if it worked like America, well, yeah, New Japan would have called them already and probably set something up, but it doesn't always work like that in Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's like,
[UNKNOWN]: the politics are weird i mean the internal politics between the promotions not the literal politics the uh... you know it's it's it's it's strange in that you know you just it will he's not one of our guys so we you know we don't want to bring him in you think that anybody any promotion in japan would want to get a hold of this guy at this point in time but it's it's just as likely
[UNKNOWN]: that he just ends up in like fucking glitter something.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just you can never predict these things.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean dragon die.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember he he departed from dragon game.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody kind of booked him to jump into, you know, jump to New Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that might still be happy.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, but he has a rustle fleet February.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like he's not doing it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the thing with
[UNKNOWN]: The thing with the New Japan recruiting is a lot of them were juniors and they're in the middle of the super junior tour.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's kind of a weird time to bring guys in.
[UNKNOWN]: The other thing though is they did sell in the middle of all of the two.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know what that means in terms of, you know, handshake deals, they had the guys they were thinking about bringing in.
[UNKNOWN]: When there's new ownership in play who, you know, so who knows.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, it's it's strange.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you just assume, everyone will be clamoring for a service.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't always work like this, so I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, unless he has it's really as seamless as it would be in America.
[UNKNOWN]: Like this would be a kind of like Rainer in America.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, some guy in TNA who was really really good I'm just kind of bored of being TNA.
[UNKNOWN]: He would leave and it'd be like, oh, yeah He's definitely going to WWE or a WWE or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: And he'd be there, you know, as soon as he contractually could he pop up on the show and and appear there But yeah, it's not always it's not always as seamless in Japan It never has historically now.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if that's going to you know change is it gets weirder and weirder
[UNKNOWN]: In Japan moving forward, but yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you have no clue.
[UNKNOWN]: You have no clue where he ends up next.
[UNKNOWN]: So, is it Noah, is it New Japan, is it, like you said, fucking delete who the hell knows?
[UNKNOWN]: Who the hell knows what's next?
[UNKNOWN]: But shouldn't Scott Walker, but from all indications, it's just he just kind of got bored of being in a dragon gate, not the more to do, just kind of sick of it.
[UNKNOWN]: So, he's living.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just been a couple of guys, but obviously we've mentioned Dragon Dia, that it's just, yeah, it's Dragon Gate in general, man.
[UNKNOWN]: It's tough.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, when I saw that cork in Hall,
[UNKNOWN]: Number was like 987 or something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like whoop boy.
[UNKNOWN]: That's really.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah That's I mean that if you if you want to know the state of drag and get in the best way possible Well first off listen to a J on open the voice get.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you listen to that episode man fuck If done a number on my man J.
[UNKNOWN]: He is They got that guy feeling like he is
[UNKNOWN]: ready to tap out to and that that's I mean that is I heart D. G. I mean that's fucking J.
[UNKNOWN]: What are you doing man?
[UNKNOWN]: Like that is your number one guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody on earth cares about Draingate more than J.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's on that show man.
[UNKNOWN]: It just sound like a guy who was just not necessarily that he you know he just feel and it feels like he's disappointed in and what Draingate's become and he's just really sad about the state of Draingate where it is right now.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is not
[UNKNOWN]: intended to be meant to be, and I told you so, it's not, but I've been deeply concerned about Dragon Gate probably for at least a half a decade, maybe a little bit even before the pandemic and that when I was watching Dragon Gate regularly, one of my big talking points was, they are an absolute fucking factory when it comes to producing good workers.
[UNKNOWN]: Dragongate pumps out more good wrestlers out of their system and their dojo and their training than arguably any other place in the world.
[UNKNOWN]: And that actually is probably still the case.
[UNKNOWN]: And we've talked over the years why that is, the schedule, whatever they're doing training wise, they get these guys dialed in.
[UNKNOWN]: They have functionally great wrestlers coming out of that place all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: Constantly, a constant stream
[UNKNOWN]: of just high-level young wrestlers and the ones that aren't, they find a place for them, whether it's a punch, Tom and Aga or whoever, they'll find a comedy role for guys, the ones that just can't quite hack it at that level, but they are just a machine when it comes to producing high-level wrestlers, but the one thing that I had been saying for years was, I did not see anyone with any charisma.
[UNKNOWN]: and I made that point all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was a big concern to me.
[UNKNOWN]: They're pumping out all these great wrestlers, but they're not pumping out anyone that has a discernible crowd connection.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not pumping out anyone that I can foresee as a major star moving forward.
[UNKNOWN]: And really, Shoon was the guy.
[UNKNOWN]: He was the one that bucked that over the last call, the decade or whatever, who did become,
[UNKNOWN]: who did show charisma and did become a legitimate star, but you go right down the line of all of these guys who were functionally excellent wrestlers, like you say, but all of them lacked crowd connection, star power and charisma.
[UNKNOWN]: And that was a concern of mine going back a very long time.
[UNKNOWN]: And when you continually do that, and you can't, and you're not pumping out stars, and you're not finding a way to create stars.
[UNKNOWN]: You have what we have here now, and the pandemic absolutely contributed.
[UNKNOWN]: They had it very rough in the pandemic, they had very rough coming out of the pandemic.
[UNKNOWN]: But they just don't have enough marketable bodies in that promotion, no matter how good the work is.
[UNKNOWN]: And I know that probably stings a lot of people to hear, but it shouldn't be a surprise.
[UNKNOWN]: Because back when I was watching regularly, I warned of this.
[UNKNOWN]: I said, I don't know, there's a lot of good workers, but where are the stars?
[UNKNOWN]: There's not a lot of charisma here with these groups of great workers that they're pumping out.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's really the key to pro wrestling.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you could have all the great workers you want, but you have to have people who are gonna connect with the crowd.
[UNKNOWN]: And now they're losing the one guy that does.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not good.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not good at all.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, in just a couple of months, they lost the guy that the Dragon Kid lineage was passed down to, which is an important thing.
[UNKNOWN]: The ultimate dragon, Dragon Kid, Dragon Die.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: That's, they lost that guy just was like, I'm out by.
[UNKNOWN]: And they lost the only guy with any sort of pulse, like high level star that they had with any pulse is bouncing to and and there's the other, there's some talented guys, but main roster main roster main, main roster main event level guy like it's been
[UNKNOWN]: Should've been one of the few guys that is kind of connected on that level, that higher level that you look for, and now he's gone, and that's, that's a huge, huge loss, a huge gap that will now be.
[UNKNOWN]: They pumped out a lot of yuki Yoshiyoka's.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That ain't going to get it done.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's, you know, a lot of just functionally good workers who,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's uh, and the trying to phase out the older guys, it's hard though when you don't have people to replace them.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, they've run with Kakuta here for a long time, and he's just not getting over with their families.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not for, look, that guy's had the belt for like a year, right?
[UNKNOWN]: They've sent him to Noah twice to work two different carnival tours, so it's not like, you know, but it's just, it just hasn't worked.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not connected.
[UNKNOWN]: and that's the biggest problem with dragon gate over the last whatever however many years they still have enough guys who are connecting yeah one of the other times guys this year the guy that i've been pushing a lot is uh... fucking ganky or goochie who's been awesome this year they're doing stuff like wins all of it they're just like re-pushing ganky or goochie they're like and that's great like i think that but it it speaks to a lot of the hills of the of the company is
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's it's it's not good.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not good and drag it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not good at all.
[UNKNOWN]: And I mean, with the talent that they have there, if they had a couple of charismatic stars, they'd be in real good shape.
[UNKNOWN]: That's I mean, that's everybody.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's that's every but them in particular because they have so many good workers.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but that's the the heart part really isn't yeah, the heart part isn't having good workers.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think these days.
[UNKNOWN]: especially.
[UNKNOWN]: I see what you're saying.
[UNKNOWN]: There's probably not as many.
[UNKNOWN]: They have probably more good work, but it's the key is always to have the crowd connections and the stars or whatever, and have those, and they've really, really, really struggled.
[UNKNOWN]: There's been multiple generations that have come through, and it's just, yeah, a bunch of guys that are the soldiers.
[UNKNOWN]: And it adds up.
[UNKNOWN]: We saw it with Noah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's the famous story when we began this podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: All those many years ago, Noah was in the midst of
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, I mean, yeah, you had to follow Masawa and Kobashi or whatever, but these guys just were coming up and it just wasn't connecting that next generation, they were good workers, they were all really good workers.
[UNKNOWN]: It just wasn't connecting and it put them in a very dire straight for a long time and that's yeah, I think that's kind of what Dragon gets doing right now too.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know how to solve it, cause you can't just create charismatic wrestlers that get it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's tough.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I don't have a good solution for him sucks, but with that guy leaving, this is absolutely low point.
[UNKNOWN]: The low for the dragon, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, not, not like, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: Controversy's a side.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, like potent like it's not the monkey incident, but yeah, in terms of Yeah, who cares about that?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not about like business.
[UNKNOWN]: This is like the vibes business low point.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah Yeah, no, it felt bad before he was leaving and now that he's leaving.
[UNKNOWN]: I felt it really really really really feels bad
[UNKNOWN]: Like that Jay, a blue sky pose.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, it's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like when Shingo went, like, read it and J voice, it's great.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, it's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like when Shingo went, it's not like it was stopping any moment ever making things any worse.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I was like?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, we said it sucks and it's gonna suck with without him.
[UNKNOWN]: Who cares?
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing else to do if he doesn't wanna do it.
[UNKNOWN]: It sucks with their bigger problems with it without him.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the good news is Joe, we can always look to new Japan pro wrestling to put a smile on our face.
[UNKNOWN]: They are wrapping up their best of the Super Junior's tournament, Joe.
[UNKNOWN]: I know you've been locked in on a small old B.O.S.J.
[UNKNOWN]: So tell me about your viewing experience so far for the best of the Super Junior's.
[UNKNOWN]: Because you and I have had similar experiences watching this tournament this year.
[UNKNOWN]: was watching it early on, but it was so shitty in annoying that I just couldn't, I could not waste another second of my life watching that tournament.
[UNKNOWN]: I just couldn't do it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's kind of where I, I, you lasted longer than I did.
[UNKNOWN]: I would, I would load up my new Japan world.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'd already feel ikki and I'm like, I can't, I don't really want to do this.
[UNKNOWN]: Fine, I'll, I'll load up my new Japan world.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd click play, I'd find a match, I'd watch it for like eight minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like, I'm not doing this.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not watching yo.
[UNKNOWN]: Between yo stuff and stuffed animals and whatever Cushito was doing early on and just all this,
[UNKNOWN]: utter nonsense.
[UNKNOWN]: Listen, I don't need Robbie X in my life that bad, but where I just sit through the rest of this garbage.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't, it's just, it's not worth my time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm not even going to jukaside, I got you there, so I can't even get enjoyment out of jukaside being there.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I know some people can, but good for you, but I'm good.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you bring in jukaside and never put him in the ring with despy, which is the only reason to bring in jukaside.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just,
[UNKNOWN]: But that's not, the problem is all the hamdened up and of utter nonsense.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was a nonsense tournament in large part.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, and I'm not, I just can't.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, again, so we're gonna wrap it up.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, we're gonna jump in now, of course, because now, you know, we're gonna, the tour ending show and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna have to lock in on that.
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh, who's we got lost in your pocket?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm making you review it.
[UNKNOWN]: Watch this shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Lay it on me, the big time semi-main event that we, the semi-finals, that.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you can do this on a flagship plus if you want.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, Master Watto, uh, emerges from your A-block.
[UNKNOWN]: He has your number one in the A-block.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be facing the, uh, always formidable, yo.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, so my two least favorite wrestlers in the promotion.
[UNKNOWN]: Our family final number one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Sounds great.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you're going to love this.
[UNKNOWN]: Your favorite tag team in the world.
[UNKNOWN]: The each-y-bond sweet boys are going to have to do battle here.
[UNKNOWN]: Robbie Eagles emerged from the B-block as your number one and he'll be facing Jose Fugida, your A-block number two.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'm sure that'll be good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure that'll be really good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Probably.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's anything that yo and Master Watto could do that I'm going to like they have so much overcome in terms of what I think of that.
[UNKNOWN]: Your arms are going to be so crossed at the beginning of that man.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh god, I'm going to just- They're going to be cross so hard.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be breaking my rims.
[UNKNOWN]: Have you seen yo's like, um, what's it called?
[UNKNOWN]: Render?
[UNKNOWN]: What do you call it?
[UNKNOWN]: He's a little graphic.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, we're he's got like his like mouths to Gabe and it's just yeah This is problem.
[UNKNOWN]: What is he doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Why is it mouth wide open like that?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know why is this guy so fucking weird?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like him at all.
[UNKNOWN]: Why did you seriously go with me?
[UNKNOWN]: I know I know it.
[UNKNOWN]: I know what exactly what you're talking Why is he what is that look at why is that look on his face?
[UNKNOWN]: I want a punch him in his stupid face.
[UNKNOWN]: What is wrong with this guy?
[UNKNOWN]: Why is his mouth all a gap?
[UNKNOWN]: What is he doing?
[UNKNOWN]: It makes me angry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yo, it makes me angry.
[UNKNOWN]: I can tell you.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's on the new Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll put it in the chat room for people to listen, because I believe it's his, if you go to the profiles, I think it's his profile picture on the new Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: What is it?
[UNKNOWN]: All right, these goofy, he's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: He's weird.
[UNKNOWN]: He's off the, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: There has never been a wrestler that had more, please retire bitch energy to me than yo, I can't fucking stand them.
[UNKNOWN]: And Mr. Watson And dork Yeah, he's the nerd Guys, just a dork, but I mean What was it three four years ago?
[UNKNOWN]: He had that great final?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's impossible to care But yo, oh my god, just fucking yo
[UNKNOWN]: Seriously, if I get hand pick a wrestler to just disappear, I think that pick him.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I'd pick him.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you pick you over show and I think I find you a more infuriating than show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, show just runs in with a ranch and that's no picnic either, but right, but at least like at least shows just giving up.
[UNKNOWN]: Yo is like, yeah, it's hard to describe, but it's just
[UNKNOWN]: I like I was a mouse open and he's doing weird things.
[UNKNOWN]: He's wearing weird things.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like I get it.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, you're goofy and you're silly and you wear weird thing I get it, butter.
[UNKNOWN]: You know this is a block, but remember to zik block back here and what the fuck is it?
[UNKNOWN]: What is he even doing?
[UNKNOWN]: His wise as mouth open like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know It's open a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: I pick him over Johnny.
[UNKNOWN]: Hungi
[UNKNOWN]: I'd pick him all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: At this point, at this point, Johnny.
[UNKNOWN]: He's never around.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He's never around.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, you can't annoy me if he's not around.
[UNKNOWN]: Johnny, I'm confused.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh god, the best part is people to argue with.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's actually, it's like it.
[UNKNOWN]: You'll say he's gonna get pushed.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm still waiting at where is he at?
[UNKNOWN]: This is me with, I am the judge Judy gift right now, pointing at my fucking watch.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: When's it coming?
[UNKNOWN]: Where's the big Johnny?
[UNKNOWN]: I was told Johnny Hunky was gonna be a huge star.
[UNKNOWN]: I was told Otis was gonna be a huge star.
[UNKNOWN]: Huge star, Rich.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't ever fucking cross me, don't doubt my instincts!
[UNKNOWN]: Don't ever doubt my instincts!
[UNKNOWN]: So let's show that semi-final thing is tomorrow, so do we have to watch it and talk about it tomorrow?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you have to watch it and talk about it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the best of the super junior semi-finals, of course you have to watch it and talk about it.
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to triple and fox on your own, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to watch that.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, good.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to watch that.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, good.
[UNKNOWN]: That's just an episode of TV.
[UNKNOWN]: It is the second half of a major show.
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: But it doesn't appear to be a major show with the two matches they have announced on it.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: But I got fire festival coming up.
[UNKNOWN]: So you're going to have to pick up some of this slack.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I want to have a lot to do.
[UNKNOWN]: Can I watch the fire festival?
[UNKNOWN]: I want to watch that.
[UNKNOWN]: No one.
[UNKNOWN]: No one's stopping you.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll watch that.
[UNKNOWN]: No one's stopping you.
[UNKNOWN]: From watching the fire festival.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we'll know just a fire festival.
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh...
[UNKNOWN]: This is fucking semi-final shit.
[UNKNOWN]: This is, uh...
[UNKNOWN]: This is tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: Tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: Tonight, basically, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, well, maybe the rest of the cards are really good.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me take a look here.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you got?
[UNKNOWN]: Let me see.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we got Aaron Wolfen, an eight-man tag opposite the house of two.
[UNKNOWN]: We're no way.
[UNKNOWN]: Holy crap.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: Looking forward to that.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't wait to see if he can overcome the ice.
[UNKNOWN]: Funny.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's an interesting match up there.
[UNKNOWN]: So you got a judo Olympian.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so real athlete up there against the guys that were black and interfere in the shitters and they bring the bell and the whiskey and oh, that's going to be right.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be right.
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be right.
[UNKNOWN]: You got to be careful.
[UNKNOWN]: of that no boo can a morrow because what he likes to do rich is he likes to bring the bell and make you think the match so that you're wrestling in the ring and then you think you've won the match because the bells ring but in fact that is not the case is what you're telling it's very tricky so tricky in fact that these baby faces have not caught on four years that he's going to do this in every single match it's very tricky.
[UNKNOWN]: I noticed that the
[UNKNOWN]: The jean store in the mall, unbound co is still at it in New Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: I noticed that as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're still a thing.
[UNKNOWN]: When does unbound co take on old navy or the gap?
[UNKNOWN]: When do they take them on?
[UNKNOWN]: Buckle, face buckle in there.
[UNKNOWN]: Forever 21 is coming in for a hot, uh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: What an image that was coming in thought.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a get ready for it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Watch out.
[UNKNOWN]: Ches King is on the way.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Orange Julius coming out of retirement.
[UNKNOWN]: Suncoast video.
[UNKNOWN]: It's ready to Champs sports is back in the back in action.
[UNKNOWN]: My chips still around him.
[UNKNOWN]: My chips in the my old malls.
[UNKNOWN]: You're kicking still kicking.
[UNKNOWN]: It's hanging on unbelievable.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know how it's hanging on by a thread, but it is still hanging on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, on Banco, it would be like
[UNKNOWN]: in a most in like a not a dead mall, but it's on its way to being a dead mall.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's a whole section that's empty because it used to be a J.C. Penny and it used to be like a frame, like a frame store, it used to be that sports store that we're talking about, or you can buy your pen into whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: Those are all gone, but Unbound Coast still has a huge, huge plot in that weird corner.
[UNKNOWN]: And you gotta go all the way around into that corner to get to Unbound Co. And then you walk in and yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: They're playing some fucking terrible music and right next to Spencer Gifts and and the Pets store with all the sickly-looking dogs.
[UNKNOWN]: That's where it is.
[UNKNOWN]: And you got to stop, you got to stop.
[UNKNOWN]: You always have to stop and look at the dogs and they're like, oh man, someone's going to buy that puppy.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be dead before it turns out.
[UNKNOWN]: So, wow, it has so many parasites.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it has no hope.
[UNKNOWN]: He from a puppy mill in the fucking Amish country.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's to the die before it turns out.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right, that's our arms.
[UNKNOWN]: It is going to die.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's where unbound co is.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: Next to the shuttered sports store and the shuttered, uh, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, there's a lot there's a guy who still repairs watches.
[UNKNOWN]: He's there.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not going anywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: He's gonna go down with the ship
[UNKNOWN]: a cobbler for some reason.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how to see him.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how to see him.
[UNKNOWN]: I've never like had a cobbler cobble my shoes ever.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what is my new one?
[UNKNOWN]: Who is, who is practitioner?
[UNKNOWN]: Who are his customer base?
[UNKNOWN]: Just an old Italian guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Just an old Italian guy's an old Polish guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that all?
[UNKNOWN]: Get into their shoes repaid.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to go in with a shoe.
[UNKNOWN]: Just to see what the guy tell.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to say he's got to be in his 80s.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no cobbler under the age of 80, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Like a shoe repair guy.
[UNKNOWN]: That has to be a dead fucking.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, fucking, what do you call it?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's over here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like the most, like guys that make Mosaic.
[UNKNOWN]: So whatever, I don't know if you've read something about that where it's like, or sculptors.
[UNKNOWN]: Like no one's gonna sculpt ever again.
[UNKNOWN]: Like the generation of sculptors we have now is like the last.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, nobody's learning how to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody wants to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: There's just no desire to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: So sculptors will do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Three printer now.
[UNKNOWN]: right so you're not gonna have a guy you know sculpting a statue anymore that that's dead but yeah the guy I went to we have a guy I guess is he a shoe pair guy he's like a shoe and leather repair guy in my town like I went 10 years ago he's still around somehow I don't know idea a extremely old Italian man like as old as you could possibly imagine me 95 years old or whatever and I wanted to get a baseball glove like re-stitched because he said he re-stitched his baseball gloves
[UNKNOWN]: And I went and he was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[UNKNOWN]: It seems like it's like ceremonial and I try to get he's like, ah, no, no, no, no, I can't even No, no, it's all good.
[UNKNOWN]: You got to get new club.
[UNKNOWN]: Come on, I'm trying to give you a hundred dollars to re-stitch my glove and he wouldn't even do it.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm like, well, then who is giving your money?
[UNKNOWN]: Like does anybody give this man money?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: He's still right.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how they stay.
[UNKNOWN]: How late for the rent of the mall?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I don't get it, but there's always a shoe repair, right next to the Army recruitment office.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a shoe repair.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll teach.
[UNKNOWN]: George, the chair who's always good.
[UNKNOWN]: He says a random story that sells furniture made from driftwood.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: That's on the unbound co- Young of the mall.
[UNKNOWN]: They're the anchor of that wing of the mall.
[UNKNOWN]: And they got a big feud coming up with foot locker, but it's very problematic because- What action can we get involved, too, yeah?
[UNKNOWN]: If unbound code defeats foot locker, they then lady foot locker becomes their slave for 30 days.
[UNKNOWN]: Very problematic feud.
[UNKNOWN]: They're actually- Is there actually a lady foot locker?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, we mean, of course there was a lady foot locker.
[UNKNOWN]: They had lady referee employees and everything.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's just lady shoes and a power.
[UNKNOWN]: Were they like sexy ladies or they were just normal ladies and referee outfits?
[UNKNOWN]: Mall workers.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess they could have been sexy if you're, I guess it's sexy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sexy.
[UNKNOWN]: If they didn't necessarily need to be sexy, they just could have been a referee outfit.
[UNKNOWN]: Same as the guys did, but they had the lady referee outfit.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember a lady foot locker, but
[UNKNOWN]: lady, you really didn't have a lady foot locker.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, I did.
[UNKNOWN]: Eric's in the chat.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll remember if Yorktown mall had a lady foot locker.
[UNKNOWN]: The lady foot locker is one of the few remaining stores that are in these malls now.
[UNKNOWN]: Lady foot locker.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to go.
[UNKNOWN]: I will recommend if you have a mall in your area and it has not been abandoned and demolished, you should go every so often.
[UNKNOWN]: It is fun to.
[UNKNOWN]: I go to the mall now and that's fun to take it in and just relive what it is.
[UNKNOWN]: Do the kids like, do you take the kids?
[UNKNOWN]: Do they like the idea of a mall?
[UNKNOWN]: They pop for the mall.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, they're like it.
[UNKNOWN]: Their mother goes to the mall the time and they can't wait to hop in the car and go to the room.
[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm glad.
[UNKNOWN]: We need to bring them back.
[UNKNOWN]: All's are good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, most are good.
[UNKNOWN]: You talked about how it's a lost start to just go to but you just go and that's all you do for the day Go to more.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is, you know Just go to more.
[UNKNOWN]: What do we gonna do?
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to more.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you not buying anything?
[UNKNOWN]: You're just going to more
[UNKNOWN]: I guess, well, that's maybe the problem.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not what she's going to do.
[UNKNOWN]: Nobody buys any other.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, correct.
[UNKNOWN]: They allow dogs in the mall near me recently.
[UNKNOWN]: So like, people just walk with their dogs there in the middle of the winter when it's too cold outside to walk your dog.
[UNKNOWN]: So our ball is filled with, see, walk you there's like,
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not like all echoing, they're just smells tear, just smells like piss and shit everywhere, and it's like, no, what's going to get any store?
[UNKNOWN]: No one's going to find malware and be like, I do need a new belt, this is like, yeah, I know I'm walking Sparky, you know, cause it's too cold out, but I should probably buy a $150 pair of pants or whatever, no one does, it's just they just walk through dumb dogs.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they go to the freaking out, and I'm one of those people that walks my dumb dogs there, so I'm talking about myself here.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I walked my dumb child, and my dumb dog at the same time.
[UNKNOWN]: No, and then like occasionally people will go to like the food court like you still get a little bit of play in the food court Yeah, when they're walking their dogs because they you know, they get an anti-ans Yeah, or like a fucking yeah the food court is really going downhill and these malls though It's really going downhill.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, ours actually ours has a new New vigor to it a lot of new stores in our food court
[UNKNOWN]: Really, yeah, our food court's dying.
[UNKNOWN]: We got the Roman delight pizza, which is... We always have to have the one Chinese plate.
[UNKNOWN]: You got to still have a Chinese plate, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Or a Terriaki chicken plate?
[UNKNOWN]: Not that.
[UNKNOWN]: What?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there was a Chick-fil-A and that got boarded up, too.
[UNKNOWN]: And now we got a Roman delight pizza.
[UNKNOWN]: We got like a great American cheese steak or some gimmick similarly called that.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, yeah, of course, like not Chinese, but like the what do you call the something the the chicken the what do you call it?
[UNKNOWN]: Shit, which really is just Chinese food the You know what I'm talking about.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, yeah, no, yeah, kind of, but it's called Something oh fuck this is gonna fucking kill me if I can't think of this.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me look a mall chicken and see if it
[UNKNOWN]: They'll have one, they'll have the one that we're talking about where you can get chicken teriyaki or orange chicken or The bourbon chicken plate.
[UNKNOWN]: That you know, you don't know the bourbon chicken.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if we have a style It's you probably just the Chinese place because it's it's but some they some people call it bourbon chicken So you get like the chicken with the rice and the fucking broccoli.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, or you get chowney noodles and less instead of the rice if you want.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're talking about the same thing
[UNKNOWN]: we're talking about the same thing just some some places call it bourbon chicken as opposed to like some magic walk or some right rack of Chinese name or something there's nothing resembling real Chinese it's just now it's bourbon chicken and chic and teriyaki rice or or low-main and then that's it yeah yeah yeah someone says baro I wish we had a sabaros because roman delight sucks I've never had a like let me
[UNKNOWN]: I might just be, it might not even be a chain for all I know, but the one, the Roman, the light pizza we have is awful.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just a shit.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, you know, it's like 650 versus slices.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just the worst pizza you've ever heard.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's like thick and crummy, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So thick.
[UNKNOWN]: You I can't so it is so it is it's not even that they also have they have no interest in Properly portioning so it has so much cheese on it that even after they heated up even after it's cooked and heated up It's there's still cheese that isn't melted.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, like when you bite into it.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't talk about yeah, it is the shits Roman the light.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so bad
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I didn't know it was a chain, but apparently it's a it's a chain.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a mall chain.
[UNKNOWN]: Roman the light.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Looks like it's in a couple malls.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Some also blows away.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a barrel.
[UNKNOWN]: A barrel works, man.
[UNKNOWN]: A barrel works.
[UNKNOWN]: A barrel hits.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, because you could even get lemon chicken there.
[UNKNOWN]: And Mary, it wasn't just pizza.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: You can get it.
[UNKNOWN]: I wish it replaced the Roman delight, but I'm sure Sabaro struggling to, no one goes the fucking ball.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, small and airport, yeah, it's all Sabaro's got left for it.
[UNKNOWN]: You see them in airports, so borrow.
[UNKNOWN]: Occasionally, very rarely though, everything in my airport now is either, every Chicago airport is either, you have like a McDonald's or whatever, you have like a Burger King, you might have a Chick-fil-A, and then you have like these like sit down and he restaurants like the, like they're like bars, and they try to like, they have three things on the menu, they try to get you a drink and sit while you're, the chilies with the limited menu.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, they just want to do it right.
[UNKNOWN]: the uh... the uh... the phoenix sky harbour had a uh... flavor town look guy theory flavor town uh... there i i i i said we should go but uh... we didn't go the only place i've ever the only time i've ever seen an Einstein bagel company is an airport oh yeah we didn't have a couple of those by me you got freestanding brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick and brick
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's, you know, I never seen one for real just in airports.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Wolf King puck some of the terms of the game fuck.
[UNKNOWN]: Airports staples.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He's kind of been pumped out by like Ramsey and like he's.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he wasn't old.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, him and who's the, uh, BAM guy?
[UNKNOWN]: Emerald.
[UNKNOWN]: Like those guys were, yeah, it was good for the shit for a while.
[UNKNOWN]: But
[UNKNOWN]: BAM!
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, with the garlic, I think the garlic came back.
[UNKNOWN]: I was really lost.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, emerald, and we've gone Park has been replaced.
[UNKNOWN]: Remember Chef Tell, that might be going even.
[UNKNOWN]: Chef Tell, I don't know if I'm ever Chef Tell, let me look up.
[UNKNOWN]: Chef Tell, Chef Tell, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Who was the Chef Tells really taking it back?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember this guy at all.
[UNKNOWN]: You have a good one.
[UNKNOWN]: He's funny.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, the mustache.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't like Scott Hall.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like AWS Scott Hall.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I know Chef Tells.
[UNKNOWN]: This might surprise you.
[UNKNOWN]: But my friends constantly make Chef Tell reference.
[UNKNOWN]: You keep good friends.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a good friend.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a guy, what do you up to?
[UNKNOWN]: And I had his cooking dinner.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, chef, tell over here.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, shit like that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's always chef-tell.
[UNKNOWN]: It's never, they haven't even gotten to Wolfgang Pocket.
[UNKNOWN]: It's no, there's so much chef-tell.
[UNKNOWN]: And that lady, the lady who was always drunk on TV.
[UNKNOWN]: Rachel.
[UNKNOWN]: No, the other lady that was always drunk on TV in like the 70s and 80s.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you're lady.
[UNKNOWN]: And she was that that TV chef With the fuck was her name drunk TV chef.
[UNKNOWN]: We had locally in Chicago.
[UNKNOWN]: We had a guy named Mr. Food who I think it was Mr. Food.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me make sure it was Mr. Food.
[UNKNOWN]: He would cook some delicacies
[UNKNOWN]: This is, yeah, Mr. Food, that was his name.
[UNKNOWN]: Drunk TV Chef Lady brings up a lot of results, but none of the person I'm looking for, which doesn't seem right, which doesn't, which doesn't, Drunk TV Chef Lady's 70s?
[UNKNOWN]: She's like the most famous TV chef.
[UNKNOWN]: Everyone's gonna know when we pull this up.
[UNKNOWN]: Gramker is a gramker?
[UNKNOWN]: Not Grants, a man, gramker.
[UNKNOWN]: Famous Lady TV Chef.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh Julia child Julia child is who I was thinking.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't know Julia child.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: No, thanks Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: All right Rachel Ray.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah The who's the probably still would oh yeah, who's the relatively attractive Italian lady that was on the food channel
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, oh, oh, with the Italian name.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think Gianna can't be a world of fucks.
[UNKNOWN]: It is Gianna something.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a fuck this her name, Italian TV show.
[UNKNOWN]: That's semi hot.
[UNKNOWN]: semi hot food network.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's see.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll dry up a lake to figure this one out.
[UNKNOWN]: I understand Domiano Carrera, but that's not a... No, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Gianna de Laurentis, Gianna de Laurentis.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm up great.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm up great.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not semi-hat.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Gianna.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she could absolutely get it.
[UNKNOWN]: She could absolutely get it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I used to watch that show myself, because... Well, I wonder why.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I learned how to cook some Italian meals from her son.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you know who had a funny path was...
[UNKNOWN]: Are you familiar with with Adam Rich from man versus food?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So he did man versus food.
[UNKNOWN]: He was always a husky guy, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, and he did man versus food.
[UNKNOWN]: And then like he lost a lot of weight.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you see how much weight he lost like?
[UNKNOWN]: probably like a hundred seventy hundred sixty pounds and now he's a fatso like bigger than ever You know that like yeah, well because I watch you because I watch a lot of those I'm an idiot and I and I have nothing else to do I watch a lot of those like history channel like the history of food or whatever and he's in all the so it's like yeah Cheerios, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this is how they started Cheerios Whatever, he's a big ol' fact guy
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I don't know what happened.
[UNKNOWN]: Like they, someone must have said, hey, man, you're blood pressure.
[UNKNOWN]: You're getting older now.
[UNKNOWN]: Because he's got to be like 50, something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe he has early 50s.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he took it to heart.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he's like, you know what, I just fucking like food, man.
[UNKNOWN]: And now he's bigger than that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he'll talk to it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care.
[UNKNOWN]: I respect it.
[UNKNOWN]: I fucking respect it.
[UNKNOWN]: He said fuck that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna live.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm on the back nine.
[UNKNOWN]: Food is my life.
[UNKNOWN]: What the fuck am I doing?
[UNKNOWN]: Eat and kale and then I'm gonna eat 20 pounds of bacon french fries if I want to so Yeah, yeah, so I was you know, he just he totally went not only did he go back the other way, but he Was his name Adam Rich Adam Rich is the kid from eight is enough Adam Rich mint isn't it is it a rich mint.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah rich mint.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah rich mint
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Adam Rich is to keep with the bull cut.
[UNKNOWN]: For me, he does enough for that.
[UNKNOWN]: This is what this is why I'm looking at an AA.
[UNKNOWN]: This is what the reading a modern New Japan card brings us to.
[UNKNOWN]: Adam Richman looks like the boss of a Russian gang now.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's what he looks like.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's like the devil.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, he's got the, he's like, he's like, haggard is like fucking hair is always a mess.
[UNKNOWN]: It's nasty.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's, no, see, I think he's got to shit together.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, he's a big guy, but he's got the beard and he's always wearing like, he's always sharply dressed though.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, that's for a big guy with the beard.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess his hair's a little if you watch these like history channel things he's his hair's kind of all over the place But yeah, the beard the beard and I'm perpist all like the whole to shovel maybe I think so the intentionally to shovel the look You know, you know, but he lost all that way.
[UNKNOWN]: He just didn't look right either.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't look right when he lost the way like it's a different human
[UNKNOWN]: So uh, yeah, some guys are just better fat guys.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they get their heads get too big for some reason They get skinny and then you're like your heads too big.
[UNKNOWN]: Why is your head so big now?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know like his ears were lower is like, I don't know put the weight back on and he did Take lady did yeah, yeah Rachel raise another one.
[UNKNOWN]: She started as like a thick gal Yeah, and then she got real real real real skinny real skinny real skinny She lost all the weight and then she said you know what fuck that I love butter
[UNKNOWN]: I just love butter.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna put a stick on my butter and every meal and I don't give a shit who does that.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm gonna stick it up my ass.
[UNKNOWN]: I just love butter so I'm not doing this anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: And now she's bigger than she was when she was a chunky gal.
[UNKNOWN]: Because these people love food.
[UNKNOWN]: They're not good, they can't be skinny, it's impossible.
[UNKNOWN]: So they just like fuck that.
[UNKNOWN]: I got my money, you know, who's gonna tell me?
[UNKNOWN]: Who's gonna tell Adam Richmond?
[UNKNOWN]: This guy got to be like 55 years old.
[UNKNOWN]: 52.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you must eat.
[UNKNOWN]: You must eat.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't blame him.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to eat.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to eat when we're done here.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm thinking about food right now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's on the menu.
[UNKNOWN]: Big sale.
[UNKNOWN]: Big sale today.
[UNKNOWN]: Not a problem is it's Thursday and I grocery shop on Friday.
[UNKNOWN]: So there's like, there's never nothing after this show.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I'm looking for leftovers, I'm really scrounging.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's a rough go.
[UNKNOWN]: Every now and then I'll hop in the car and go look for some hot chicken or something.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm not going to do that tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to do that tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll have to find something.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll have to work hard and find something.
[UNKNOWN]: So what else is on this new Japan?
[UNKNOWN]: Card?
[UNKNOWN]: Now we're done with the new Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: We've been done with the new Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: No, you only give me one match.
[UNKNOWN]: You give me one match, sir.
[UNKNOWN]: None of them are good.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all you need to know.
[UNKNOWN]: None of the matches are good.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, it seems to be a constant, you know, about a new Japan.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I enjoyed, let's remember some balls.
[UNKNOWN]: That was good.
[UNKNOWN]: And let's remember some TV chefs.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And uh, Joe and Rich still would to uh, what was it?
[UNKNOWN]: Rich away and uh, in Giata.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't even know a Rachel Ray.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I know she's a bigger gal.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I think there's other hell.
[UNKNOWN]: I think something's going.
[UNKNOWN]: I think she's guys like big health that she's going on with her right now.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like she's going on.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we wouldn't.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe just for...
[UNKNOWN]: Think she's got other things to do.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to be mean.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't want to be mean.
[UNKNOWN]: I just got other things to worry about.
[UNKNOWN]: I just, I pulled one up and I absolutely wouldn't.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't want to be mean though.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'll tell you, a peak Rachel Ray, right?
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll cook him never cook.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: And now, together forever, for sure, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey Adam Richmond, that's a handsome guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd hang out with that guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like a good guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I do some man versus food challenges with him.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the whole concept of that show and every food challenge is that you watch it and go, I think I could do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Like anytime I see a pizza eating challenge, I think I could absolutely do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Anytime.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I always see those and I'm like, that's not that hard.
[UNKNOWN]: There's somewhere it's like, you know, you got a drink.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of the ones that like the, um,
[UNKNOWN]: Big burger challenges or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: They always add like a fucking drink to it and I'm like, okay, that's what it's gonna really hurt Do I have to Guzzle down a 60 ounces of soda like that's gonna say yeah, like a full a full power coke to yeah That's gonna really suck, but if it's right if it's just food on the right day I could take down a There was a yeah, there's like an ice cream challenge out by me.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like this old old old
[UNKNOWN]: Candy and ice cream store whatever they give you a giant fucking bowl and they've put like a hundred scoops of ice cream in there And you and like three of your friends can can take this challenge and do it and we got real close one time We've always had like I don't think I could do it anymore because now I'm like When I was a little younger and could burn them a little bit more calories a little bit easier.
[UNKNOWN]: We got really close one time.
[UNKNOWN]: We just had a A week link in the team.
[UNKNOWN]: They just didn't even know if it was really he chose bad flavors to we had a tell him like he's like Well, I want like chocolate and we're like brother.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not about like
[UNKNOWN]: We're not eating this for pleasure, this is just right.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like choosing flavors, we're like, it's all gonna melt in the end.
[UNKNOWN]: So all these flavors have to work together.
[UNKNOWN]: Like we can't have off the wall flavors.
[UNKNOWN]: And I forget he got like butter toffee or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
[UNKNOWN]: And then like the fucking the group at the end was terrible because it tasted like butter ever like now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like you gotta get like neutral flavors.
[UNKNOWN]: And again, he was at it like, oh, this will be good.
[UNKNOWN]: We're like, no, this is a challenge, brother.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to give it to people.
[UNKNOWN]: It's in sir, we're not going to be a poll.
[UNKNOWN]: Right?
[UNKNOWN]: Just keep it simple.
[UNKNOWN]: It's simple.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You want flavors that are going to be able to gale together and make it because at the end it's just a soup.
[UNKNOWN]: You're just drinking ice cream soup at the end.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Now we got real close, but literally any pizza challenge I see.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, I could absolutely do that if I needed to.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think so too.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the other day I ordered a 14 inch pizza and it was supposed to be for the Mrs. and I, I was watching the NBA finals.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I was like, do you want an inch?
[UNKNOWN]: She was like, ah, maybe.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, all right, I'll leave you some pieces.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and she went to bed and I was like, actually I ain't waking up, and then just eat the whole fucking thing So that's what it's my thing when I buy pizza like I always buy like a full extra pizza because I'm like greedy and I'm like, oh, they're gonna eat too much on my pizza like I have to get a whole another pizza
[UNKNOWN]: because it's not enough.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I'll ask, and I'll be like, do you want any inch?
[UNKNOWN]: I know, and I'm like, are you sure?
[UNKNOWN]: Because I will order the 18 inch if you're going to eat.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, right, if you're going to have a slice, I must order the largest size that could give me just in case.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And then she said, yeah, and I was like, I finally get the 14 and I just fucking took that thing down.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: The fourth quarter of the five.
[UNKNOWN]: So then she woke up and she's like, I thought you got pizza.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, yeah, I did.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, where is it?
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, it's gone.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like you had an entire, yeah, of course I did and not that long.
[UNKNOWN]: Like in like 20 minutes, I think that whole fucking thing down watching fourth quarter of the game seven.
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't the NBA finals, game seven of the western comments files.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you for that clarification.
[UNKNOWN]: The story would have been ruined.
[UNKNOWN]: If I thought it was the wrong basketball game.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want anybody.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't want people calling you out.
[UNKNOWN]: You're like, you can't let the Koopa Troopa slide.
[UNKNOWN]: And you can't let the wrong game slide in case somebody notices that it's the.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: We will we will leave on this note how fucking annoying are your next fan friends.
[UNKNOWN]: Right now.
[UNKNOWN]: Honestly, I haven't heard from them.
[UNKNOWN]: Ooh.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that where is that like are they in a good play maybe they're just in such a good place right now?
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe from me no selling them every step of the way They've gotten the hints They know I'm not watching the games.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean I because I'm not I mean I didn't watch one minute of the game the other night I'll put on once there's a elimination game.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll I'll lock in in the fourth quarter, but I don't know I haven't heard from a maybe they're just
[UNKNOWN]: It's so close they could taste it and they don't want to mush themselves or they're just they're actually the becoming like real fans for the first time It's not a chance of that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's yeah Just give them a little more credit than they deserve properly having they have not grown up now 40 to 50 year old men have not grown up yet.
[UNKNOWN]: That's completely out of the question Yeah, you're like me.
[UNKNOWN]: I will always watch
[UNKNOWN]: If I know it's an elimination game in any sport, I've seen the final minutes of every single Stanley Cup final.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even care about hockey, but I'm like, I'm like, game-five elimination game, I'll check the scores and if it's, you know, Carolina's up in the series, three-one or whatever, and it's the third period and they're up in the game, I'm like, I gotta watch it, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Gotta see the champions when they're titles.
[UNKNOWN]: So I've probably watched every title win for every major sport in America.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to like the NBA so bad like I'll put games on and I don't even make it through the first quarter I just I think it's over for me.
[UNKNOWN]: I just sometimes you'll lose the stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's okay It happens.
[UNKNOWN]: I should be baseball now, man.
[UNKNOWN]: It's tough.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I have a real tough time watching baseball games
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you just lose the sports sometimes.
[UNKNOWN]: It just falls off and you're just, I don't know, I'm not into it, you know, I just can't get into it.
[UNKNOWN]: Every time the NBA playoffs start, I'm like, all right, I'm locking in.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
[UNKNOWN]: What do we got here?
[UNKNOWN]: We got a Hawks Celtics first round.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna dial into this series.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna know everything that by game four, I'm gonna be like this Hawks rotation is no good.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm gonna tell you what, halfway through the first quarter of game one.
[UNKNOWN]: on my phone and not paying attention.
[UNKNOWN]: I just, I can't, I just can't, I just can't.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've lost it, and I think I just have to accept it that it's gone.
[UNKNOWN]: It's too late now for me.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the NBA had its time for me.
[UNKNOWN]: There was a time I was 100% locked in.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that time is up.
[UNKNOWN]: Your time is up, my time is now.
[UNKNOWN]: Do a new you can't see right now.
[UNKNOWN]: I found a microphone.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think we burned off enough like we got to three now, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we're well over three hours.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're good.
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to talk.
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to have a discussion with you.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yes, me too.
[UNKNOWN]: I was I was I wanted to chat with you, pal.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you don't want to eat at all.
[UNKNOWN]: You're not.
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's starving.
[UNKNOWN]: No, there's
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't had the piss since we were talking about, uh, talking a little like, yeah, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that is it for us on this episode of the flagship.
[UNKNOWN]: As we mentioned, the Tuesday flagship, we did a subscriber exclusive flagship to available for you right now at flagshippatreon.com.
[UNKNOWN]: Talking about TNA, slam a grocery, slow moving ticket sales for that.
[UNKNOWN]: The state of TNA, the 2026 greatest wrestler ever vote a review of collision, as well as a recap and review of the special two hour premiere.
[UNKNOWN]: of MLW Fusion.
[UNKNOWN]: So that is available for you at the 10-hour tier.
[UNKNOWN]: I flagged your Patreon.
[UNKNOWN]: I come the Thursday Dynamite Review as always was up as well.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to have a little article about my 26 greatest wrestler ever vote.
[UNKNOWN]: Who I voted for my top 100, how it compared to the actual list.
[UNKNOWN]: I have a Q&A that I've been working my way through.
[UNKNOWN]: We get so many questions now when we do these.
[UNKNOWN]: So I got about an hour in and still have a bunch to record.
[UNKNOWN]: So that will be coming up very soon.
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