WEBVTT 00:19.007 --> 00:22.388 [SPEAKER_01]: He did not direct a play, and then come home canoeing with one of its victims. 00:22.428 --> 00:22.748 [SPEAKER_01]: Did it? 00:22.808 --> 00:23.668 [SPEAKER_01]: Who did that? 00:23.808 --> 00:25.408 [SPEAKER_01]: I wonder, repeat the name. 00:25.428 --> 00:26.388 [SPEAKER_01]: There will be armor. 00:26.408 --> 00:27.789 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to wear armor. 00:29.489 --> 00:32.369 [SPEAKER_01]: Santiago, I could understand that he had a presence, but... 00:32.549 --> 00:34.430 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to discuss armor. 00:34.450 --> 00:38.970 [SPEAKER_02]: If you think that would help... Is it true that you've had a second home and saw Salito with him? 00:38.990 --> 00:39.291 [SPEAKER_02]: We did. 00:39.311 --> 00:42.831 [SPEAKER_01]: Did you take turns driving across the Golden Gate Bridge? 00:42.851 --> 00:43.771 [SPEAKER_01]: You held the whale. 00:43.811 --> 00:44.231 [SPEAKER_01]: Hold on. 00:44.251 --> 00:46.992 [SPEAKER_01]: There's only each other's backs and pretending to guess wrong. 00:47.072 --> 00:47.532 [SPEAKER_01]: I bet. 00:48.585 --> 00:52.587 [SPEAKER_01]: I bet, very specific detail to plug out a thinner. 00:53.307 --> 00:57.129 [SPEAKER_04]: Hello, and welcome to the horror hounds, a lorhounds podcast. 00:57.470 --> 01:00.511 [SPEAKER_04]: Your guides to the many shades of list-out self-rejuvating. 01:00.891 --> 01:03.913 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm John, taking a break from booking dates for list-out's tour. 01:04.453 --> 01:13.978 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm Alicia, the journalist looking for a vampire to interview, and this is our preview of the Vampire list at on AMC, and probably eventually Netflix. 01:18.802 --> 01:20.964 [SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to, this is our preview episode. 01:20.984 --> 01:23.866 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do some spoiler-free fresh takes. 01:24.067 --> 01:34.896 [SPEAKER_00]: And then we're going to do our preview of season three, aka the Vampireless Stats with some bookteases and they're only what's been included in the trailers so far. 01:36.417 --> 02:02.207 [SPEAKER_00]: But to set this up, the premise of this show, in seasons 1 and 2, Louis DuPontalok, played by Jacob Anderson, recounted to interview her Daniel Maloy, played by Eric Bagozian, the story of his love affair with the vampire Lestat De Leon Corps, played by Sam Reed, including their adoption of a vampire daughter Claudia, played by Bailey Bass and later Delaney Hayes, and their love triangle with the vampire Armand played by Asad Zaman, 02:03.087 --> 02:04.748 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, and Daniel turned all this into a book. 02:05.248 --> 02:06.048 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, let's start. 02:06.108 --> 02:11.670 [SPEAKER_00]: It's unhappy with the way he has been portrayed and is ready to tell his own story and to be wise. 02:12.190 --> 02:15.291 [SPEAKER_00]: He loved us and to become the rock god. 02:15.591 --> 02:16.572 [SPEAKER_00]: He's always known. 02:16.652 --> 02:17.552 [SPEAKER_00]: He was meant to be. 02:18.232 --> 02:24.354 [SPEAKER_00]: So without spoilers, too many spoilers beyond that for the first two seasons. 02:25.195 --> 02:29.136 [SPEAKER_00]: John, why do you think anyone who isn't watching already, why should they be? 02:30.764 --> 02:31.545 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, let's start. 02:31.625 --> 02:36.967 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a perfect angel who has done nothing wrong in his life, and he's beautiful. 02:37.627 --> 02:39.668 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure that's that's unobjectionable. 02:40.509 --> 02:50.653 [SPEAKER_04]: He, you know, I, you know, I'm joking around, but this is a show that is the rare case of the screen adaptation enhancing the source material. 02:50.953 --> 02:51.173 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 02:52.374 --> 02:54.835 [SPEAKER_04]: And it's very impressive how they do that. 02:54.915 --> 02:57.036 [SPEAKER_04]: Like I've read the first interview with the vampire book and half 03:00.126 --> 03:08.190 [SPEAKER_04]: it's a great story and yet it's clearly holding something back and this show does not hold back. 03:08.531 --> 03:13.333 [SPEAKER_04]: This show is it's a visual treat stylistically amazing. 03:13.713 --> 03:14.514 [SPEAKER_04]: It's dramatic. 03:14.634 --> 03:15.894 [SPEAKER_04]: It's funny at times. 03:16.895 --> 03:24.699 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean Sam Reed who plays a lot of stuff is so good at selling this unhinged yet charming man. 03:26.280 --> 03:28.021 [SPEAKER_04]: This monster who you want to hang out with. 03:28.365 --> 03:28.585 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 03:28.865 --> 03:29.686 [SPEAKER_00]: The casting is crazy. 03:29.726 --> 03:29.886 [SPEAKER_00]: Good. 03:30.406 --> 03:30.646 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 03:30.746 --> 03:34.067 [SPEAKER_04]: And Jacob Anderson's great as as Louie as well. 03:34.107 --> 03:34.427 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 03:34.448 --> 03:34.788 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 03:34.828 --> 03:37.089 [SPEAKER_04]: I know he's going to be the, yeah, they're they're all great. 03:37.149 --> 03:38.229 [SPEAKER_04]: Eric Pagosi and great. 03:38.929 --> 03:39.990 [SPEAKER_04]: Aside from on. 03:40.210 --> 03:40.830 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 03:40.850 --> 03:41.670 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 03:41.851 --> 03:42.111 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 03:42.471 --> 03:42.671 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 03:42.691 --> 03:43.451 [SPEAKER_00]: We, well, yeah. 03:43.471 --> 03:46.272 [SPEAKER_00]: The maybe that's a tease, it's for the next section. 03:47.373 --> 03:47.613 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 03:47.893 --> 03:49.434 [SPEAKER_04]: You can edit it out fine. 03:50.494 --> 03:50.894 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 03:51.054 --> 03:55.176 [SPEAKER_04]: And just everyone so far in the show has been fantastic. 03:56.162 --> 04:07.826 [SPEAKER_04]: It's got everything, it's got, you know, your drama, it's got your comedy, it's got, you know, this historical drama, a little bit, it's got your modern sort of vampire thriller. 04:08.346 --> 04:12.167 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just, it was my show of the year last year, I think was yours, right? 04:12.507 --> 04:18.569 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's both episode, I mean, both seasons have aired so far were number one in those years for me. 04:19.510 --> 04:23.192 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and I just, I cannot believe how good this show is. 04:23.212 --> 04:27.474 [SPEAKER_04]: You told me about it and I was like, man, I've been burned by vampire franchises before. 04:27.974 --> 04:29.255 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I want to get into another one. 04:29.275 --> 04:32.817 [SPEAKER_04]: And then I watched it and I was like, this is just, this is, it's something else, right? 04:32.877 --> 04:35.859 [SPEAKER_04]: It's not just for people who like vampire grommas, I think. 04:36.519 --> 04:41.542 [SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's, this Gothic yet modern journey. 04:42.142 --> 04:42.402 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 04:43.443 --> 04:44.023 [SPEAKER_04]: How about you? 04:44.680 --> 05:09.415 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I have to credit Roland Jones is the creator of this show and I think that he really is the one, obviously he's brought together this incredible team of, you know, we'll talk about the music by Daniel Hart in a moment and just everyone who's working on this from, you know, cinematography to casting, obviously as we just said, it's just he's gathered a group of 05:14.518 --> 05:39.867 [SPEAKER_00]: It's elevating the source material and we'll talk about that a bit more once we give this boiler warning, but just I think this specificity, like there's just such a creativity and intelligence and a creative intelligence, if you will, behind this, behind the choices made that I was just saying to you that I just last night rewatched both of the movies from the 90s or maybe they other ones actually from the early nauties, but still. 05:42.831 --> 05:54.342 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this just blows I think everything out of the water, including I just did a reread of the first book and I'm just starting a reread of the vampire list that the second book in the series. 05:55.283 --> 05:56.865 [SPEAKER_00]: And I agree that it's. 05:58.182 --> 06:01.905 [SPEAKER_00]: It changes a lot, but also kind of not really. 06:01.965 --> 06:03.706 [SPEAKER_00]: It just makes some things more explicit. 06:03.786 --> 06:05.887 [SPEAKER_00]: It adds more depth to certain things. 06:06.007 --> 06:21.798 [SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, it does this like double framing an interview where it's like the book, the original book that Am Rice wrote is treated as if it wasn't an interview that took place in the 70s, but now there's a second interview being held all these years later. 06:22.838 --> 06:24.639 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think there's just so many, 06:25.640 --> 06:29.264 [SPEAKER_00]: creative intelligent decisions that were made that just 06:30.430 --> 06:35.394 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, make this a once in a lifetime show to be honest. 06:35.454 --> 06:38.276 [SPEAKER_00]: Not to overstate it, but that's honestly how I feel. 06:39.757 --> 06:46.202 [SPEAKER_00]: If you want to, we're not going to do a full recap of a season's one and two in this episode. 06:46.282 --> 06:53.708 [SPEAKER_00]: If you're looking for that, I did do that after season two concluded with Christina from Vampire Insider. 06:53.748 --> 06:56.050 [SPEAKER_00]: So I will link that episode in the show notes. 06:56.450 --> 07:02.913 [SPEAKER_00]: if you want to have a reminder and refresh and deep dives into everything that happened in the first two seasons. 07:04.494 --> 07:08.016 [SPEAKER_00]: But basically, they overall structure that they use that I love. 07:08.216 --> 07:17.561 [SPEAKER_00]: I love a roshaman story, which is where you look at the same situation from different perspectives and see, you know, they, one of the taglines of this series is Memories of Monster. 07:18.481 --> 07:33.057 [SPEAKER_00]: And it's all about how the very true fact that our memories are imperfect, and they are every time we remember something they're influenced by that, which is reminding of the new horror movie backgrounds. 07:33.097 --> 07:34.779 [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, sorry, we'll not diverge. 07:36.212 --> 07:41.898 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I just, I'm looking forward to now we're finally getting let's dot side of things. 07:42.218 --> 07:47.062 [SPEAKER_00]: And this is going to be so much fun because he's such, he's known as the Brad Prince. 07:47.102 --> 07:51.947 [SPEAKER_00]: I think we can say that because of the events of this book, and I can't wait to see that play up. 07:53.202 --> 08:08.332 [SPEAKER_04]: me to I think it's going to be great and yeah it's just it's just I think we've got some about the show enough now right like if you're not convinced now I don't know what to tell you I just want to say if you watch the 90s movie and you were you thought it was kind of 08:09.292 --> 08:10.153 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, lame. 08:10.614 --> 08:12.095 [SPEAKER_00]: No, sorry. 08:12.436 --> 08:13.958 [SPEAKER_04]: I think it's very up time, right? 08:13.978 --> 08:14.278 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 08:14.298 --> 08:14.498 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 08:14.518 --> 08:14.738 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 08:15.459 --> 08:16.400 [SPEAKER_04]: I it's not that. 08:16.841 --> 08:16.961 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 08:17.001 --> 08:19.564 [SPEAKER_04]: It is very much not that they have loosened it all up. 08:19.604 --> 08:20.925 [SPEAKER_04]: They've changed the time period. 08:21.045 --> 08:21.946 [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's very different. 08:21.966 --> 08:24.389 [SPEAKER_04]: So I would give it a shot even if you did not like the 90s movie. 08:24.830 --> 08:26.211 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess we should save a keyless scale. 08:27.944 --> 08:29.245 [SPEAKER_04]: off the charts like that. 08:29.365 --> 08:30.225 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, it's not even go there. 08:30.645 --> 08:30.905 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 08:31.065 --> 08:51.131 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, it's not just like there's there's obviously violence and, you know, heads being used as puppets, but there's also just like there's domestic violence and yeah, just all kinds of darkness, the darkness of humans is also like the darkness of vampires, but amplified right. 08:52.173 --> 09:14.421 [SPEAKER_00]: question the do we think that with this name change are we are they trying to on board new viewers who haven't watched the first two seasons do you think they'll make it so you don't have to have seen that it's a good question it could be it could be that maybe they think that like the interview with the vampire name is kind of tainted by the movie. 09:16.001 --> 09:18.182 [SPEAKER_04]: Really because like the movie does have a 09:21.228 --> 09:22.449 [SPEAKER_04]: Iffy, right? 09:22.469 --> 09:27.292 [SPEAKER_00]: Does it cut, I feel like there's a lot of people who are like, oh, the show, I used to love the movie. 09:27.412 --> 09:34.037 [SPEAKER_00]: And I've heard that the show is in, as good, because there are people who are like, Huffie about the show changing some things. 09:34.517 --> 09:35.018 [SPEAKER_04]: It's interesting. 09:35.038 --> 09:39.581 [SPEAKER_04]: What I've gotten from it is the people who saw it at the time, liked it. 09:40.401 --> 09:44.244 [SPEAKER_04]: And the people who have seen it later are like, what the fair fair fair fair. 09:44.604 --> 09:47.546 [SPEAKER_04]: You're in a mean, like, it is a product of the 90s for sure. 09:49.442 --> 09:58.484 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, that could be, and also, I think that they could be doing the whole, like it's not an interview anymore, right? 09:58.524 --> 10:05.145 [SPEAKER_04]: Like it probably doesn't make sense to call it an interview, not that that has stopped shows from going beyond their title before. 10:05.785 --> 10:17.847 [SPEAKER_00]: Right, but they are framing it and it's still an interview, like the start has called the interviewer back in and it's like not listen to me in the trailers. 10:20.358 --> 10:22.759 [SPEAKER_04]: I love what they're alluding to and some of those things. 10:23.060 --> 10:26.102 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I want to see the reactions of people with some of the details and the thoughts. 10:26.222 --> 10:36.890 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, I'm going to say, okay, so here's another, who, if people are a fan of other shows, like what other shows would you say, if you like this watch this? 10:36.970 --> 10:38.551 [SPEAKER_00]: And let me give you one example. 10:38.571 --> 10:44.195 [SPEAKER_00]: This is going to air pretty much at the same time as it's House of the Dragon, House of Dragon, starts a couple of weeks later. 10:45.236 --> 10:48.078 [SPEAKER_00]: I think if you like House of the Dragon, you should absolutely watch this. 10:48.580 --> 10:56.302 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that's right, it actually does a lot of things that House of the Dragon is trying to do better, like these intimate moments. 10:56.742 --> 11:05.185 [SPEAKER_04]: And also like, honestly, representations of queer relationships are significantly better in this show than in House of the Dragon where it often is very ham-fisted. 11:05.735 --> 11:05.975 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 11:06.095 --> 11:10.398 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I wonder if because it's AMC, this smaller network, there's more freedom for that. 11:10.438 --> 11:16.542 [SPEAKER_00]: And then it ends up on Netflix that certain people have called woken, so Netflix is like, we can care, it doesn't make money, do people watch it? 11:17.203 --> 11:19.324 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right, exactly. 11:19.464 --> 11:23.287 [SPEAKER_04]: I like, I like how Netflix is just like, I don't go fuck, just pay me money. 11:23.667 --> 11:24.408 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly. 11:24.428 --> 11:26.990 [SPEAKER_04]: He'll be like, it gives you $30 a month in your. 11:27.730 --> 11:27.970 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 11:28.331 --> 11:30.252 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, the price is getting out of control. 11:31.885 --> 11:36.346 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, it's not, it's not a super long show season one was seven episodes. 11:36.426 --> 11:38.727 [SPEAKER_00]: They are, the episodes are on the longer side. 11:38.767 --> 11:44.429 [SPEAKER_00]: I think season two, especially like episodes can be about an hour, season two is eight episodes. 11:44.489 --> 11:47.410 [SPEAKER_00]: And apparently this one is going back to seven episodes. 11:47.430 --> 11:54.852 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's starting, they will release, starting next Sunday, I think is when they release on AMC plus on Sundays. 11:56.053 --> 12:06.232 [SPEAKER_00]: and then it's yeah going to be seven in a row weekly and so we will be covering weekly and there will be by the way House of the Dragon coverage led mostly by David and Shaw. 12:07.822 --> 12:09.542 [SPEAKER_00]: just in case you're wondering, since we talked about it. 12:10.063 --> 12:10.963 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, yes. 12:11.603 --> 12:12.383 [SPEAKER_04]: I bowed out of that. 12:12.923 --> 12:17.065 [SPEAKER_04]: I didn't want to do that anymore, because I wanted to give my whole self to a stop. 12:17.385 --> 12:18.985 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, that's fair, that's fair. 12:19.545 --> 12:32.989 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I said I would be substitute producer for the first two weeks since David's on vacation, but then I am my heart and soul's dedicated to this, except that silo also starts in July, oh my God. 12:34.387 --> 12:35.028 [SPEAKER_04]: We're going to be good. 12:35.048 --> 12:35.648 [SPEAKER_04]: It's going to be good. 12:35.668 --> 12:35.848 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 12:35.948 --> 12:36.529 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm good. 12:36.609 --> 12:38.491 [SPEAKER_00]: You're leading the coverage of this one. 12:38.711 --> 12:40.473 [SPEAKER_00]: And that's going to be very exciting. 12:41.433 --> 12:46.818 [SPEAKER_00]: And we should say also Mark from Nevermind the Music is a big fan of this show as well. 12:46.958 --> 12:50.522 [SPEAKER_00]: So, might join in for future episodes. 12:50.782 --> 12:53.785 [SPEAKER_00]: We definitely need to at least pick his brain about the music. 12:53.925 --> 12:57.108 [SPEAKER_00]: Since this is going to be a very music heavy season. 12:57.848 --> 13:02.330 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, we've already gotten one, two, three, four, five songs released. 13:02.830 --> 13:07.852 [SPEAKER_00]: So here is a quick montage of those five songs released so far. 13:07.892 --> 13:11.814 [SPEAKER_00]: They are called Long Face, all fall down, dancing with myself, which is a cover. 13:12.554 --> 13:16.156 [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, butterscotch bitch and your biggest fan, a ballad. 13:28.167 --> 13:39.970 [SPEAKER_02]: And not just another snake without a trace You disappear, fake of the place Back of the key, give me some face A souvenir, fake of the days And come to be another animal 13:53.234 --> 14:00.524 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm not stupid, I'm not stupid Tell a new run I'm not stupid I'm not stupid I'm not stupid I'm not stupid I'm not stupid 14:07.986 --> 14:29.352 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll decide if we can cry through the night We'll wait so long for my love I appreciate that I met you When my eyes are out of control When my eyes are out of control I didn't see you when my eyes are out of control When my eyes are out of control When my eyes are out of control When my eyes are out of control 14:34.560 --> 14:56.789 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't let back and I'll creep and let back We're telling you how sweet I hope we get I gotta let get out of the gap I hate you, I'm around We're not tells each other to us to go I hate you, I'm around But ever you is, looks another guess The brunt is cause for me 15:07.757 --> 15:16.462 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a second my head since it came out. 15:37.436 --> 15:52.260 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but that's like, yeah, that's the brilliance of the series composer, Daniel Hart, who obviously wrote these songs as well, and there's apparently they didn't even ask Sam Reed to sing when they cast him, and- That's insane. 15:52.801 --> 15:53.181 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not. 15:53.201 --> 15:55.842 [SPEAKER_04]: Knowing the characters are- That's definitely insane. 15:56.682 --> 16:04.004 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but they weren't like, I think he rolling Jones thought it first, like, oh, we'll make him a composer, and then we're like, he's like, no, what am I thinking? 16:04.064 --> 16:05.264 [SPEAKER_00]: He has to be a rock god. 16:07.659 --> 16:22.945 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll put links to those songs and music videos in the show notes, but yeah, thanks to heronid news for creating lyrics videos for the songs that didn't have them yet, so some of those will be links to that. 16:23.626 --> 16:29.108 [SPEAKER_00]: But Mark weighed in, he listened to the songs so far and weighed in, and do you want to say a word he said? 16:30.158 --> 16:39.465 [SPEAKER_04]: He said, just listen to the new songs, overall liking what they're doing, been a while since I read that book, but as I recall, he seemed to be like a hair metal or goth rock artist. 16:39.485 --> 16:43.368 [SPEAKER_04]: So I think this style fits the 2020's a bit better than either of those would have agreed. 16:43.388 --> 16:44.669 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm. 16:44.689 --> 16:48.552 [SPEAKER_04]: I appreciate that they didn't go all out with the Vampirely lyrics, et cetera. 16:48.592 --> 16:54.356 [SPEAKER_00]: It's stuff like, you know, my wolf killer, well, yeah, we'll get into that sort of thing in a moment, but yeah. 16:55.551 --> 17:01.957 [SPEAKER_04]: I feel like he's doing kind of a David Bowie or Jim Morrison or even Matt Bellamy kind of thing on some of the songs which works pretty well. 17:02.838 --> 17:09.525 [SPEAKER_04]: Though in my head, I would have expected a more operatic or pretty natural high note kind of thing. 17:09.925 --> 17:12.187 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe like the darkness if people remember them. 17:13.308 --> 17:16.932 [SPEAKER_04]: But alas, the actor has got a nice baritone voice, so flaunt what you got. 17:18.167 --> 17:19.528 [SPEAKER_00]: So thank you, Mark, for weighing in on that. 17:19.568 --> 17:22.909 [SPEAKER_00]: And definitely check out, never mind the music if you haven't before. 17:22.989 --> 17:41.978 [SPEAKER_00]: The recent episodes are they did want about fast car by Tracy Chapman and the locus of storytelling, a side track, when artists take up a cause, toxicity by system on the down and the changing tempos of cognitive dissonance and the side track, how music can control your emotions, which I feel like will be relevant for this show. 17:42.179 --> 17:42.399 [SPEAKER_00]: So. 17:43.458 --> 17:53.189 [SPEAKER_04]: What I'm sorry, everybody, but I'm going to be doing that every 30 seconds during during the entire season. 17:53.289 --> 17:55.551 [SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm sure they'll give us more songs to get stuck on our head. 17:55.631 --> 17:56.312 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 17:58.334 --> 18:04.241 [SPEAKER_00]: Any last thoughts you want to throw out for the people who are going to exit stage left because spoilers. 18:05.133 --> 18:16.761 [SPEAKER_04]: just try a man like just put on put you got you you're going to put on episode one a couple episodes and you're going to be like all right this is a bin show I'm just going to binge it and then you'll be caught up and you can hang out with us. 18:17.351 --> 18:28.240 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I always, like I said, I just rewatch the originals and I forgot like how much, um, um, you know, erotic naked women and stuff, there is. 18:28.320 --> 18:32.723 [SPEAKER_00]: So guess what, then this, you're also going to see some naked bumps and boops. 18:33.364 --> 18:34.385 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, there are, there are bumps. 18:35.065 --> 18:37.167 [SPEAKER_00]: There are bumps, but I, it's more balanced. 18:37.367 --> 18:39.169 [SPEAKER_04]: Me, you know, to be clear, male bumps. 18:41.036 --> 18:47.390 [SPEAKER_00]: It's more balanced in this one than it feels a bit exploitative in the movie from the 90s. 18:48.472 --> 18:53.013 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, the whole book is like, they were roommates, and you're like, uh, yeah. 18:53.033 --> 18:56.034 [SPEAKER_04]: They're clearly not just roommates, just be cool then, right? 18:56.274 --> 18:58.394 [SPEAKER_04]: But again, it's, it's the 80s, right? 18:58.754 --> 19:17.898 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, rereading the book though, it does seem more explicit than I, I mean, I thought it was kind of explicit, but it is quite explicit, like, especially between Louis and our mom about like feeling his hard maleness against him, and or maybe that was actually a young man he would 19:18.998 --> 19:24.462 [SPEAKER_00]: drinking from, but anyway, um, I don't, yeah, and his and of course, trip around the world. 19:24.542 --> 19:26.383 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, now we're getting into spoilers. 19:26.423 --> 19:32.427 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's take a quick break here and when we come back, we're going to do the full spoiler discussion. 19:40.970 --> 19:44.251 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, spoilers for the first two seasons are on the table. 19:44.551 --> 19:56.075 [SPEAKER_00]: And we also are probably going to mention some, well, we're definitely going to mention some book stuff where anticipating, I'll say, we're going to keep it to what we've seen already in the trailers, which they've already. 19:56.115 --> 19:57.795 [SPEAKER_00]: They've done a lot of marketing so far. 19:57.895 --> 19:59.636 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm eating it all up. 20:00.076 --> 20:06.678 [SPEAKER_00]: But I'll say that this show does keep book readers on our toes because they remix everything. 20:06.918 --> 20:09.199 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, anything you want to add to those thoughts? 20:09.873 --> 20:13.375 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I mean, you know, I was reading, I was halfway through that parallel thought. 20:13.435 --> 20:17.457 [SPEAKER_04]: I kind of want to stop now and maybe be the book reader because you've already read it. 20:17.637 --> 20:26.602 [SPEAKER_04]: And I think I'm going to have a lot of fun seeing the retelling of interview with the vampires era and I haven't gotten to that yet. 20:26.962 --> 20:28.503 [SPEAKER_04]: So I think it would be a lot of fun. 20:29.563 --> 20:31.624 [SPEAKER_04]: It's, I mean, that's the whole framing, right? 20:31.644 --> 20:32.185 [SPEAKER_04]: It is. 20:32.945 --> 20:34.826 [SPEAKER_04]: Listot is here to correct the record. 20:35.546 --> 20:35.786 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 20:36.467 --> 20:36.707 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 20:37.673 --> 20:37.953 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 20:37.993 --> 20:38.554 [SPEAKER_00]: So okay. 20:38.594 --> 20:46.679 [SPEAKER_00]: Then you will decide how we do it in the regular coverage with this maybe we will do a book section at the end of episodes or something. 20:48.219 --> 20:48.380 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 20:48.400 --> 20:48.980 [SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense. 20:49.160 --> 20:51.421 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't care if you spoil some of the differences for me. 20:51.982 --> 20:52.222 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 20:52.582 --> 20:52.782 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 20:53.443 --> 20:53.663 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 20:53.723 --> 20:59.566 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess it's okay to like talk about differences as they air, but then in terms of anticipation. 20:59.766 --> 21:01.688 [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I will figure it out this weekend. 21:01.708 --> 21:01.868 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 21:04.532 --> 21:07.494 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we've talked a bit about the books versus the show. 21:07.514 --> 21:16.300 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, would you want to talk about things we know are changed from the books for season three? 21:17.693 --> 21:23.998 [SPEAKER_04]: Sure, so we've got an expanded Louis roll from the box since he's not much involved. 21:24.018 --> 21:24.998 [SPEAKER_04]: I guess. 21:25.018 --> 21:25.539 [SPEAKER_04]: Just point. 21:26.520 --> 21:30.843 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, and we're quite some elements of the queen of the damned, is that right? 21:30.923 --> 21:31.283 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe. 21:31.303 --> 21:31.944 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 21:32.084 --> 21:36.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, well, we know for sure we're bringing an elements from the vampire around. 21:36.807 --> 21:37.227 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 21:37.268 --> 21:38.568 [SPEAKER_00]: They've said that in interviews. 21:39.329 --> 21:43.732 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, elements from Queen of the damned maybe because it's like, 21:47.695 --> 21:48.216 [SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't. 21:49.056 --> 21:49.476 [SPEAKER_00]: It is. 21:49.637 --> 21:57.562 [SPEAKER_00]: I will be vague about it here, maybe we can say before a book spoiler section, but I'll just say it involves, so we're full spoilers on a table. 21:57.602 --> 22:03.006 [SPEAKER_00]: So we can say at the last season, ended with our mom turning Daniel into a vampire. 22:03.386 --> 22:03.646 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 22:04.267 --> 22:09.050 [SPEAKER_00]: And the devil's minion is a backstory between these two characters. 22:09.090 --> 22:10.651 [SPEAKER_00]: It's a romance. 22:11.432 --> 22:12.112 [SPEAKER_00]: And how 22:13.213 --> 22:16.075 [SPEAKER_00]: Daniel gets turned in the book by Armand. 22:16.635 --> 22:21.718 [SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of people are wondering, like, did that already happen in the 70s? 22:21.958 --> 22:23.659 [SPEAKER_00]: And Daniel just doesn't remember it. 22:24.559 --> 22:25.720 [SPEAKER_00]: Is that something that happens? 22:25.780 --> 22:29.342 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, and, you know, when Daniel was turned at the end of last season? 22:29.382 --> 22:30.742 [SPEAKER_00]: And we just haven't seen it yet. 22:31.843 --> 22:37.666 [SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of thought that that will be at least referenced on screen or brought in from Queen of the Damned. 22:39.395 --> 22:41.017 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, that's interesting. 22:41.037 --> 22:43.179 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know exactly what you're talking about, but now I'm curious. 22:43.760 --> 22:52.890 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, it's, yeah, it's, I mean, it's just about, um, how these two get involved, romantically, because our mom hasn't been around enough. 22:53.831 --> 22:54.111 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 22:55.733 --> 22:58.116 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, our mom, he's quite the character. 22:59.263 --> 23:04.306 [SPEAKER_00]: And the other thing I'm wondering, so see, the book fourth book is called The Body Thief. 23:05.126 --> 23:10.650 [SPEAKER_00]: And there's an important character from that Ragland James, who's already been introduced play by Justin Kirk. 23:11.050 --> 23:12.451 [SPEAKER_00]: And he's at least, he's been in this. 23:12.471 --> 23:13.751 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been in Antelah, Masca. 23:13.791 --> 23:16.153 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to remember, has he been in Mayfare, which is yet? 23:16.833 --> 23:18.794 [SPEAKER_04]: It don't think so, but I could be wrong. 23:19.415 --> 23:21.596 [SPEAKER_04]: But then, but I wasn't looking for him either, you know? 23:21.876 --> 23:22.116 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 23:22.677 --> 23:25.818 [SPEAKER_00]: But then it's, so he works for the Telemasca, 23:28.807 --> 23:32.208 [SPEAKER_04]: The telemaska is, you know, the monstrous CIA. 23:32.688 --> 23:42.031 [SPEAKER_04]: There are always, there are keeping tabs on all the supernaturals and they're making sure that there's a balance of power between the vampires, the witches, and anybody else. 23:42.812 --> 23:43.052 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 23:44.125 --> 23:53.635 [SPEAKER_00]: So the fact that he's already here makes me wonder, and I'll bite my tongue about what kind of spoilers I'm wondering about, but I just wonder if they'll pull in elements from that book, too. 23:53.795 --> 23:56.558 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think there are, like, how many books are there? 23:56.578 --> 23:57.639 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, 12 or something? 23:57.659 --> 23:58.981 [SPEAKER_00]: It's been seen about. 23:59.541 --> 24:01.844 [SPEAKER_00]: So they're remixing them, and that makes it, to me. 24:03.597 --> 24:13.326 [SPEAKER_00]: uh thirteen books uh looking now at the last thirteen books including oh and no and that doesn't include the two spin-offs and of course all of the witches books anyway. 24:14.047 --> 24:23.896 [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of crazy like I uh you cannot have a series that long right because at some point listot's gonna age and um it's not great right because of vampires. 24:24.939 --> 24:39.050 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when it's also like a lot of these books are focused on one character's story and you can't like with the TV show, you can't really do that because, you know, if Louies not there, we're going to be like, well, what's Louie up to? 24:39.130 --> 24:43.273 [SPEAKER_00]: So they have to keep all of them in play at the same time. 24:44.674 --> 24:50.218 [SPEAKER_00]: Or else, yeah, they can't have hold the contracts and viewers are like mad that their favorite character's gone, you know? 24:51.179 --> 24:51.359 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 24:52.111 --> 25:06.380 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, do we hope for any Mavir witches or telemaska crossovers beyond Raglin James who I'm going to put my internet points out there now that he'll show up at some point I mean, I like a lot of the characters from Mavir witches. 25:07.481 --> 25:11.383 [SPEAKER_00]: I Don't like the main one Who's the most likely to show up? 25:11.443 --> 25:11.884 [SPEAKER_04]: I know. 25:12.024 --> 25:12.324 [SPEAKER_04]: I know. 25:12.404 --> 25:14.765 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just like that's that's who we're gonna get though, right? 25:15.766 --> 25:19.589 [SPEAKER_04]: Although I don't know, maybe the sure runner is gonna be like, you know, we keep that away 25:20.882 --> 25:38.747 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if there's like any animosity between the two shows just because of the whole thing where because people like her that show initially did better numbers even though we've been pretty open here and a lot of people other people have been open that it's just not up to the same level of quality. 25:40.314 --> 25:52.664 [SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah, we, you and I disagree on which is better the telemosca RIP spin off a dead after one season with a May Fair Witches season two, but yeah, season one of May Fair Witches was rough. 25:53.425 --> 25:54.205 [SPEAKER_04]: It was really rough. 25:54.566 --> 25:58.609 [SPEAKER_04]: I, again, yeah, I was mostly fine with season two. 25:58.749 --> 25:59.730 [SPEAKER_04]: It caught my interest. 25:59.750 --> 26:01.651 [SPEAKER_04]: Like I wanted to know what happened next at least. 26:02.332 --> 26:04.994 [SPEAKER_04]: It's kind of like, you know, people say that like 26:09.547 --> 26:15.252 [SPEAKER_04]: but they are page charters, like you wanna know what's gonna happen next, even if it's bad. 26:16.513 --> 26:21.457 [SPEAKER_04]: And I feel like that with May Fair Witches, whereas interview with the vampire, my whole heart's in it. 26:21.875 --> 26:22.335 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah. 26:22.595 --> 26:32.878 [SPEAKER_00]: No, everything is exquisitely crafted and interview the vampire, whereas yeah, I'm a fair witch, it's sort of like, okay, we'll tell me about the story, but do it a little bit. 26:32.898 --> 26:35.899 [SPEAKER_04]: So it's going to write in angry that I compared me for what's just what I like. 26:35.999 --> 26:38.060 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 26:38.080 --> 26:38.500 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 26:38.560 --> 26:40.620 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that they can be an unfair comparison. 26:42.781 --> 26:48.742 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, and I agree that the season two of Murphy, or May Fair, which is was a lot more compelling. 26:48.782 --> 26:55.664 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a lot more pulled together, um, it was a lot more, yeah, interesting, intriguing stuff going on. 26:56.484 --> 27:05.806 [SPEAKER_00]: I was into the telemaska season, and I do hope that they continue, like, with those characters somewhere, because they kind of left off in a big cliffhanger. 27:05.826 --> 27:09.067 [SPEAKER_00]: And so, I don't know, but maybe that's just been May Fair, which is. 27:09.727 --> 27:14.570 [SPEAKER_04]: The one character I was interested in the backstory of, they could absolutely weave that in to interview with the vampire. 27:15.071 --> 27:15.771 [SPEAKER_00]: Which one was that? 27:16.212 --> 27:16.992 [SPEAKER_00]: The main guy guy? 27:17.432 --> 27:17.633 [SPEAKER_04]: No. 27:18.533 --> 27:19.854 [SPEAKER_04]: The one he goes off with at the end. 27:20.555 --> 27:21.495 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 27:21.675 --> 27:22.216 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 27:22.336 --> 27:23.376 [SPEAKER_04]: I do not care about guy. 27:23.577 --> 27:24.157 [SPEAKER_04]: I never did. 27:24.998 --> 27:25.618 [SPEAKER_04]: I never will. 27:25.978 --> 27:27.499 [SPEAKER_04]: They cannot make me care about guy. 27:28.240 --> 27:28.560 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 27:28.700 --> 27:29.040 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 27:29.541 --> 27:32.703 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess there's three characters I would like to see continued with. 27:32.783 --> 27:35.585 [SPEAKER_00]: The one he goes off with at the end in her sister and him. 27:36.911 --> 27:41.295 [SPEAKER_00]: And, well, yeah, I mean, I was into the show. 27:41.335 --> 27:47.079 [SPEAKER_00]: There, I thought there was some interesting stuff in there, but anyway, there's so packed in this season. 27:47.159 --> 27:50.182 [SPEAKER_00]: I would rather see that pulled into Mayfare, which is. 27:51.643 --> 27:59.229 [SPEAKER_04]: There was interesting stuff in there in the sense that, like, you bought good quality meat and then you, like, made a stew with it. 27:59.729 --> 28:00.490 [SPEAKER_00]: Mm. 28:00.530 --> 28:04.013 [SPEAKER_04]: They already mean, like, they did not know what to do with what they had. 28:04.517 --> 28:16.640 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so Mayfer, which is only has three books that were written, and so I could see them pulling more telomask elements out of the vampire books to add to be felt that show. 28:17.060 --> 28:17.340 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 28:18.400 --> 28:18.580 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 28:18.980 --> 28:21.461 [SPEAKER_04]: They're not letting go of Alexander the Dario. 28:21.901 --> 28:22.101 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 28:22.581 --> 28:22.761 [SPEAKER_00]: No. 28:22.881 --> 28:24.941 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're not going to recast that character. 28:25.521 --> 28:27.482 [SPEAKER_04]: It also didn't have higher viewership. 28:28.242 --> 28:28.782 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 28:28.822 --> 28:32.743 [SPEAKER_00]: The first season, apparently, at least it's first, it's the same. 28:34.133 --> 28:36.315 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, what do you think? 28:36.375 --> 28:43.980 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so focusing on our vampires, what do you think is the best change from the books so far that we've gotten? 28:45.301 --> 28:52.647 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that making, well, all right, it's like multiple changes I want to talk about, you know what I mean? 28:53.629 --> 28:59.373 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that the era changing was the best thing and not the modern thing. 28:59.413 --> 29:05.036 [SPEAKER_04]: The modern thing I could do with or without, but putting it in the 1930s was fascinating. 29:05.296 --> 29:05.856 [SPEAKER_00]: 1910s, yeah. 29:06.557 --> 29:09.078 [SPEAKER_04]: In 1910s, I'm sorry, in the 1910s, was fascinating. 29:09.098 --> 29:18.064 [SPEAKER_04]: Like this whole era, this, you know, changing the backstory of Louie from, you know, a plantation owner to a... We're on the owner. 29:18.304 --> 29:19.405 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm a half-law owner, yeah. 29:21.591 --> 29:25.053 [SPEAKER_04]: very very different complicated character morally. 29:26.314 --> 29:30.336 [SPEAKER_04]: But I also think like changing the racial dynamics between him and the start. 29:30.916 --> 29:31.936 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 29:32.777 --> 29:38.460 [SPEAKER_04]: It opened up a conversation that was not present in the book just because that wasn't there. 29:39.573 --> 29:45.417 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the thing also about like, so he was a plantation owner, he was a slave owner in the books. 29:45.517 --> 29:52.461 [SPEAKER_00]: And so he is still, he's peddling flesh in a different way in this change, but it does. 29:52.601 --> 30:03.848 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, emphasizes that sort of master fledgling relationship between them by adding this extracurracial component that let's not just doesn't understand because of course he doesn't. 30:04.388 --> 30:05.929 [SPEAKER_04]: Can I pick another change? 30:05.969 --> 30:06.309 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure. 30:08.371 --> 30:09.011 [SPEAKER_04]: Claudia's age. 30:09.591 --> 30:25.561 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought that that was really a really really a change too, because it makes a lot more sense for a girl on the cusp of womanhood to be so frustrated, frustrated and feeling like she's just on the edge of it forever. 30:26.621 --> 30:28.963 [SPEAKER_04]: I think that that really made her character more complicated. 30:29.692 --> 30:43.100 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, in such a smart practical change, too, because you can find a once-in-a-generation actress like Kirsten Dunst to do a single movie as a child actor that can pull off that character. 30:43.120 --> 30:44.321 [SPEAKER_00]: She's still the best part of that movie. 30:45.322 --> 30:55.968 [SPEAKER_00]: But if you have an ongoing show, first of all, you need to hire someone that's an adult, so that's not subjected to all the restrictions of filming at night. 30:56.048 --> 30:57.329 [SPEAKER_00]: If you have a show about vampires. 30:57.689 --> 30:58.370 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 30:59.010 --> 31:04.472 [SPEAKER_00]: But also they were smart to hire, they did recast Claudia for the second time. 31:04.492 --> 31:12.254 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was going to say they didn't get out of the recasting trap there, but and we were nervous about that, but I think yeah, it was it was perfect in the way. 31:12.374 --> 31:22.577 [SPEAKER_00]: Like we've talked about with Wheel of Time that the original mat was good for the season where he's going mad with the with the dagger and then when they recast he's better for like the jovial luck mat. 31:23.462 --> 31:24.842 [SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I completely agree with that. 31:25.363 --> 31:27.403 [SPEAKER_04]: I did miss Barney in one time. 31:27.503 --> 31:29.604 [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't really like Barney that much the first season. 31:29.624 --> 31:29.864 [SPEAKER_00]: Sorry. 31:29.924 --> 31:30.224 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 31:30.304 --> 31:32.444 [SPEAKER_00]: So I was very happy with the Donald flame recasting. 31:32.464 --> 31:41.646 [SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, in this case, I think that the recasting ended up working out well because I feel like Bailey was great as the younger 31:43.947 --> 31:56.312 [SPEAKER_00]: and then Delaney as the, you know, the Claudia who still looks young but is older inside, but anyway, in both cases, they cast actresses in their 20s who just have baby faces, basically. 31:56.352 --> 31:59.854 [SPEAKER_00]: So they can play within that range a lot. 32:00.854 --> 32:01.474 [SPEAKER_04]: No, it was smart. 32:01.534 --> 32:02.595 [SPEAKER_04]: And I agree with you. 32:02.655 --> 32:03.535 [SPEAKER_04]: The recast was good. 32:03.715 --> 32:06.456 [SPEAKER_04]: I think both actors really did well in the role. 32:06.937 --> 32:07.157 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 32:08.189 --> 32:14.092 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to shout out, I think my favorite change might be the complexities of having this double interview structure. 32:14.172 --> 32:28.960 [SPEAKER_00]: So they've kept it so that the original interview that the books about from 1973 still took place, but added this, this extra modern interview, and this is one of the things that like keeps book readers on our toes the most. 32:29.000 --> 32:29.760 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was talking about 32:32.021 --> 32:33.762 [SPEAKER_00]: really know what happened in the 70s. 32:33.822 --> 32:47.632 [SPEAKER_00]: So season two was a lot about discovering what happened during that interview, but it just adds another layer of mystery, and it also allows a more mature perspective from all of the characters that we got in the first book. 32:47.652 --> 32:56.138 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like Daniel says at first he's like, I'm not, I'm not asking questions because he doesn't in the book, really ask the follow-up questions a journalist should be asking. 32:58.424 --> 33:01.826 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so we get this extra layer of complexity. 33:01.866 --> 33:03.687 [SPEAKER_00]: I just think all these decisions are so smart. 33:03.787 --> 33:16.595 [SPEAKER_00]: And then just to piggyback on what you're saying about shifting in the time period, and that how that meant that they ended up in Paris during World War, or just after World War II, and how that affected things. 33:16.615 --> 33:27.241 [SPEAKER_00]: They made such like, they made a meal out of this character, Madeline, who's kind of not much of anything in the book, or especially the 90s movie. 33:28.908 --> 33:35.873 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, they did a lot of great changes with the time period, and I grew through the double interview structure adds a lot of depth. 33:37.255 --> 33:39.036 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 33:39.997 --> 33:44.940 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so other than list that, who is your favorite murder gremlin from the first two seasons? 33:45.441 --> 33:47.703 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you listed who it is, right? 33:47.943 --> 33:48.223 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 33:48.523 --> 33:49.724 [SPEAKER_04]: You listed the, yeah. 33:50.325 --> 33:52.947 [SPEAKER_00]: It's not, let's not forget Santiago play by Ben Daniels. 33:53.487 --> 33:54.128 [SPEAKER_04]: Fantastic. 33:54.628 --> 33:55.148 [SPEAKER_04]: 10 out of 10. 33:55.268 --> 33:55.629 [SPEAKER_04]: No notes. 33:56.150 --> 33:59.353 [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely, I mean, he died at that point in the books. 33:59.473 --> 34:02.737 [SPEAKER_00]: It's right that he died at that point in the show, but definitely gonna miss him. 34:04.258 --> 34:08.141 [SPEAKER_00]: Although, we're getting a bunch of new characters. 34:08.241 --> 34:12.204 [SPEAKER_00]: So we know we've got Gabriella. 34:12.404 --> 34:15.026 [SPEAKER_00]: They've changed the name from Gabrielle to Gabriella. 34:15.086 --> 34:16.207 [SPEAKER_00]: Play by Jennifer Ela. 34:16.247 --> 34:18.788 [SPEAKER_00]: We've seen her in the trailers now. 34:19.149 --> 34:25.393 [SPEAKER_00]: We know they're going to find Marius and Akasha who are major immortal characters. 34:25.513 --> 34:28.115 [SPEAKER_00]: I won't spoil too much about them for anyone who doesn't know. 34:28.675 --> 34:31.577 [SPEAKER_00]: And you said, and I believe to you, 34:32.398 --> 34:34.460 [SPEAKER_00]: at the beginning, Claudia is coming back. 34:34.500 --> 34:37.422 [SPEAKER_00]: What do we think, how do we think Claudia is coming back? 34:40.544 --> 34:43.486 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I think that they're just going to replay those scenes, right? 34:43.646 --> 34:44.387 [SPEAKER_04]: And- Oh, you think? 34:44.407 --> 34:45.467 [SPEAKER_04]: From the sauce perspective. 34:45.487 --> 34:46.188 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's what I thought. 34:46.738 --> 34:54.563 [SPEAKER_00]: I also, I wondered if, because we saw, let's start sort of quote unquote haunting Louie in season two before he came back in the flesh. 34:55.824 --> 34:57.345 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if it would be something like that. 34:57.385 --> 35:02.028 [SPEAKER_00]: And there is, we do see at some point that a ghost version of Claudia shows up in the book. 35:02.068 --> 35:02.568 [SPEAKER_00]: So it was one day. 35:02.588 --> 35:03.549 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we're getting the first ghost. 35:04.209 --> 35:06.290 [SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of ways they could play with this. 35:06.370 --> 35:08.251 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'm glad they're keeping her in play. 35:08.292 --> 35:11.794 [SPEAKER_00]: But of the new characters, are you really excited about anyone in particular? 35:14.366 --> 35:22.335 [SPEAKER_00]: I am excited to see Nikki, I'm excited to see, um, we, we saw him briefly, but yeah, we'll definitely get more of him. 35:22.855 --> 35:27.260 [SPEAKER_04]: What's the name of the one who, wait, can I talk about if people now? 35:27.420 --> 35:28.101 [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, sure, sure, sure. 35:28.141 --> 35:29.362 [SPEAKER_04]: The one who turned listot. 35:30.504 --> 35:32.486 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, yeah. 35:33.967 --> 35:34.348 [SPEAKER_04]: Magnus. 35:35.102 --> 35:36.103 [SPEAKER_00]: Magnus, thank you. 35:36.123 --> 35:36.223 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 35:36.664 --> 35:36.764 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 35:36.784 --> 35:37.885 [SPEAKER_00]: I think those are my two most excited points. 35:37.905 --> 35:38.686 [SPEAKER_04]: I already know our mind. 35:38.706 --> 35:39.447 [SPEAKER_04]: I've had our mind. 35:39.467 --> 35:40.128 [SPEAKER_04]: Give me someone new. 35:40.148 --> 35:40.248 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 35:40.268 --> 35:42.790 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, but yeah, I think that there's a lot of good characters here. 35:42.811 --> 35:43.131 [SPEAKER_04]: Anyway for you. 35:43.151 --> 35:55.965 [SPEAKER_04]: Um, I am, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm 35:56.598 --> 36:00.779 [SPEAKER_00]: Gabriella, Gabriella, fan, and I'm really excited about the casting. 36:01.259 --> 36:06.161 [SPEAKER_00]: This is definitely going to be the one of the most game of Throne's E aspects. 36:07.081 --> 36:16.744 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we said we could talk about what's in the trailers, so they do very openly say in the trailers so far that there is an ancestral relationship between mother and son. 36:17.384 --> 36:21.505 [SPEAKER_00]: So I know people are like, oh, I can't believe they kept that, but 36:22.085 --> 36:26.431 [SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, at least they didn't keep the weird relationship between Louie and Claudia. 36:26.451 --> 36:27.492 [SPEAKER_00]: So yeah. 36:27.813 --> 36:28.574 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm okay with this. 36:29.275 --> 36:34.181 [SPEAKER_00]: I am she is such a toxic mother-bitch. 36:34.802 --> 36:35.283 [SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait. 36:36.004 --> 36:36.164 [SPEAKER_04]: Yep. 36:38.066 --> 36:39.068 [SPEAKER_04]: You're absolutely right. 36:41.255 --> 36:50.184 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm wondering, Akasha, so I'll just say there's Akasha, if you've watched the trailers, there's like, you might have seen in the latest longest one. 36:51.345 --> 36:58.792 [SPEAKER_00]: There, I guess I'll put that in the show notes, but there is a stone arm that moves, that is Akasha. 36:59.032 --> 37:00.153 [SPEAKER_00]: And she is, 37:03.335 --> 37:09.519 [SPEAKER_00]: I guess I won't say too much spoilery about that, but she is a very ancient immortal. 37:09.579 --> 37:12.340 [SPEAKER_04]: I've heard some things. 37:12.440 --> 37:14.581 [SPEAKER_00]: She is the titular queen of the dam. 37:15.242 --> 37:19.924 [SPEAKER_00]: That's the character that Alia played in the film. 37:20.665 --> 37:21.445 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 37:21.625 --> 37:27.348 [SPEAKER_00]: She does turn up in the vampire list, and then the following book is her book basically. 37:30.946 --> 37:31.166 [SPEAKER_04]: right. 37:32.927 --> 37:33.187 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 37:33.767 --> 37:40.048 [SPEAKER_00]: I put together a fun little most likely list that I thought we could run through to wrap this up. 37:40.888 --> 37:41.829 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I'm in. 37:43.009 --> 37:46.410 [SPEAKER_00]: So I'll just throw out a question and then we'll discuss for each. 37:46.910 --> 37:53.252 [SPEAKER_00]: So which of these vampires do we think is most likely to stand you up for a date? 37:53.952 --> 37:54.892 [SPEAKER_04]: Louis, two anxious. 37:55.938 --> 37:56.318 [SPEAKER_00]: You think? 37:56.878 --> 37:57.579 [SPEAKER_00]: Yep. 37:57.599 --> 38:03.602 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he is, he would at least like apologize, and then, I don't know, I feel like let's stop would be it. 38:04.162 --> 38:05.743 [SPEAKER_04]: No, let's not see her to charm you. 38:06.643 --> 38:08.404 [SPEAKER_04]: He's showing off the day that he'll eat you later. 38:08.984 --> 38:09.785 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true. 38:09.825 --> 38:10.205 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. 38:10.225 --> 38:10.865 [SPEAKER_00]: That's how he's getting. 38:11.426 --> 38:14.947 [SPEAKER_00]: If Louis thinks it's going to end with him having to eat you, he might stand you up. 38:15.127 --> 38:15.648 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 38:15.848 --> 38:17.508 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 38:17.729 --> 38:20.650 [SPEAKER_00]: Which is most likely to not clean up after their kills. 38:21.650 --> 38:22.071 [SPEAKER_04]: Let's stop. 38:25.804 --> 38:26.165 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. 38:26.185 --> 38:26.645 [SPEAKER_04]: That's true. 38:26.865 --> 38:27.466 [SPEAKER_04]: That's true. 38:27.526 --> 38:28.768 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just kind of your because she's dead. 38:31.731 --> 38:32.231 [SPEAKER_00]: Or is she? 38:32.512 --> 38:32.832 [SPEAKER_00]: She is. 38:35.695 --> 38:37.637 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, which one's most likely to lie to you? 38:38.278 --> 38:38.659 [SPEAKER_04]: Or mom? 38:39.620 --> 38:40.100 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 38:40.681 --> 38:41.942 [SPEAKER_00]: He does do a lot of lying. 38:42.363 --> 38:43.524 [SPEAKER_04]: He does big lies too. 38:44.125 --> 38:46.888 [SPEAKER_00]: He does big lies, but doesn't let's start also kind of 38:47.892 --> 39:13.329 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but but his hardest true and and our mom does not I don't know fix him I mean, I think our mom he gets you know, he has this murder Grimmland reputation and I think we're gonna be seeing him through Less thoughts eyes now, so I think he's gonna look even worse than he's looked through Louis's eyes I do wonder if we're gonna get a future like the vampire or mom like pair of seasons or something 39:15.370 --> 39:19.711 [SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I feel I have a soft spot for our mom. 39:19.811 --> 39:20.992 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why, but I do. 39:22.452 --> 39:25.773 [SPEAKER_04]: That's that's all you have no soft spot for our mom. 39:25.833 --> 39:27.534 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, get him out of here. 39:27.874 --> 39:28.894 [SPEAKER_04]: Take out the trash. 39:30.775 --> 39:31.115 [SPEAKER_00]: All right. 39:31.815 --> 39:32.695 [SPEAKER_00]: But I will agree. 39:32.755 --> 39:34.316 [SPEAKER_00]: He's probably the most likely to lie to you. 39:34.736 --> 39:37.977 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a telonavella that that always gets in my head, too. 39:43.415 --> 39:48.257 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like Daniel's the most likely to just like tell you the brutal truth, even if it's okay. 39:48.297 --> 39:49.917 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he leaves like little live for sure. 39:50.177 --> 39:50.457 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 39:51.738 --> 39:54.519 [SPEAKER_00]: Who's most likely to fall for scam online? 39:55.779 --> 39:56.619 [SPEAKER_04]: It's Louis, right? 39:58.900 --> 39:59.760 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, Louis. 40:01.341 --> 40:01.861 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know. 40:01.961 --> 40:06.423 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it might be less stop because he would be naive. 40:13.833 --> 40:20.438 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, if let's start got an email from a Nigerian prince, he's like, I would be like, I've met many Nigerian princes. 40:20.478 --> 40:21.658 [SPEAKER_00]: Why wouldn't they email me? 40:25.561 --> 40:32.486 [SPEAKER_00]: We saw in one of the trailers, there was like all these things popping up. 40:32.826 --> 40:36.208 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, he didn't know how to turn off notifications or things like that. 40:36.228 --> 40:38.610 [SPEAKER_00]: He's just not as technically up to speed. 40:43.965 --> 40:46.407 [SPEAKER_00]: Who do you think would over rely on AI? 40:47.487 --> 40:48.968 [SPEAKER_04]: Ooh, that's tough one. 40:49.068 --> 40:53.991 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go with Armand because he's Googling or not Googling his AI prompting. 40:55.172 --> 40:57.533 [SPEAKER_04]: How do I convince my boyfriend that a script is fake? 40:59.915 --> 41:06.899 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm also going to go with Armand because I think he's just so, he's the least sure of who he is. 41:07.259 --> 41:10.861 [SPEAKER_00]: So he would be like, AI, tell me what my voice is. 41:14.070 --> 41:42.103 [SPEAKER_00]: It's funny because he's of the characters other than like Akasha that we've discussed so far our mind is by far oh well we mentioned like Marius but anyway our mind is like by far the oldest so it's funny that he is he had a rough beginning and we've heard some of it but I'm sure we'll get into it more yeah yeah which which characters most likely to have read all of Daniel's books 41:43.313 --> 41:45.956 [SPEAKER_04]: Ooh, let's start. 41:46.796 --> 41:48.478 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was going to say Louis. 41:49.278 --> 41:49.559 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 41:50.219 --> 41:52.521 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Louis would do his homework. 41:53.422 --> 41:53.682 [SPEAKER_04]: Hmm. 41:54.043 --> 41:54.903 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you think that's right. 41:54.984 --> 41:55.324 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 41:55.564 --> 41:56.425 [SPEAKER_04]: No, I think you're right. 41:56.625 --> 42:03.471 [SPEAKER_04]: The reason I was thinking of the start was once he gets his sights on someone, he's trying to mess with. 42:03.511 --> 42:04.692 [SPEAKER_04]: He's like obsessive. 42:05.233 --> 42:05.453 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 42:06.053 --> 42:06.934 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true. 42:06.954 --> 42:07.555 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true. 42:08.280 --> 42:17.023 [SPEAKER_00]: But then again, I feel like, well, didn't, maybe Louie actually canonically did because before he invited Daniel back for the interview, I think he might have read all of his books. 42:17.844 --> 42:18.084 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 42:18.724 --> 42:20.785 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he certainly knew things from it. 42:21.483 --> 42:50.032 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, he did and I enjoyed wouldn't their recap in their last conversation in Daniels like it was impulsive and he's like, yes Yeah, yeah Okay, which one's other than Lestot for this one which vampire is most likely to listen to Lestot's records on repeat Yeah, other than Lestot as a good caveat I think Louis 42:51.031 --> 42:55.992 [SPEAKER_04]: I think he's still got, you know, he's still burning a candle, holding a candle, oh my god. 42:56.012 --> 42:56.793 [SPEAKER_04]: What is the expression? 42:57.253 --> 42:59.453 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't, uh, candle burning a book. 42:59.473 --> 42:59.974 [SPEAKER_00]: Carrying it. 42:59.994 --> 43:01.554 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm tearing a candle. 43:02.054 --> 43:02.374 [SPEAKER_04]: Carrying. 43:02.454 --> 43:02.774 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay. 43:02.834 --> 43:03.855 [SPEAKER_04]: But I'm probably right. 43:03.955 --> 43:04.295 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 43:04.515 --> 43:06.255 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 43:06.876 --> 43:08.276 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with our mind. 43:08.336 --> 43:17.479 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think this is actually book information that's making me think that we might find out he still has obsessive interest and less stuff. 43:19.778 --> 43:24.159 [SPEAKER_00]: which of them, including the stunt now, which of them is most likely to listen to the lower house? 43:25.720 --> 43:31.161 [SPEAKER_04]: All right, I'm going to go with Lestat here because he likes to hear about himself and we talk about him. 43:32.222 --> 43:33.542 [SPEAKER_00]: That's true, that's true. 43:33.562 --> 43:42.805 [SPEAKER_00]: I suppose the other one I was thinking of is Daniel, who's like, you know, doing the all the journalistic research and listening to what other people say. 43:43.145 --> 43:43.385 [SPEAKER_04]: True. 43:44.373 --> 43:46.654 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but no, you have, you make a good point as well. 43:47.114 --> 43:52.796 [SPEAKER_04]: Although, Louie's pretty modern, you know, he's, he's wearing, uh, listen, we're in hoodies now, you know. 43:53.216 --> 43:58.517 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which, which of them is most likely to be a Marvel or Star Wars fan? 44:01.058 --> 44:04.219 [SPEAKER_04]: Uh, um, I don't know, you go first on this one. 44:05.919 --> 44:07.420 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I feel like, um, 44:08.960 --> 44:12.922 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like who'd be fun if our mom secretly was is like Are you great? 44:15.684 --> 44:17.945 [SPEAKER_00]: It's like the oldest, but he's like sneaking out. 44:17.965 --> 44:21.107 [SPEAKER_00]: He's got his like cap shirt on or something. 44:21.307 --> 44:25.990 [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to kidnap and turn George Lucas so he keeps, uh, you know, pulling him out stories. 44:26.510 --> 44:27.390 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, maybe. 44:29.332 --> 44:32.974 [SPEAKER_00]: Who would be most into like Tokyo in a will of time on the fantasy side? 44:34.174 --> 44:35.515 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'm maybe Daniel. 44:36.736 --> 44:37.136 [SPEAKER_00]: Okay. 44:38.888 --> 44:57.584 [SPEAKER_00]: I could see, I could see Louie getting into the lower, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's 44:58.485 --> 45:02.867 [SPEAKER_04]: Maybe he's reading the Lord of the Rings and he hears, you shall not pass and he goes, yes. 45:05.348 --> 45:09.470 [SPEAKER_04]: Although, for our token efficient downloads out there, in the book is actually, you cannot pass. 45:09.590 --> 45:11.391 [SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, we'll change this after the movie. 45:11.711 --> 45:12.571 [SPEAKER_04]: All right, moving on. 45:12.952 --> 45:14.332 [SPEAKER_00]: Shalice, it's more dramatic. 45:14.572 --> 45:16.233 [SPEAKER_04]: It is, I like the change. 45:16.693 --> 45:16.913 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 45:18.334 --> 45:24.597 [SPEAKER_00]: Who's most likely to be scared of horror movies, despite being a horror themselves? 45:26.038 --> 45:27.179 [SPEAKER_00]: definitely not Claudia. 45:27.679 --> 45:28.439 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, not Claudia. 45:28.459 --> 45:30.240 [SPEAKER_00]: I feel like she probably likes them the most. 45:31.080 --> 45:34.362 [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, yeah, did they ever think about killing them like this? 45:35.623 --> 45:36.563 [SPEAKER_00]: She could write hard memories. 45:36.823 --> 45:39.724 [SPEAKER_04]: I get, I guess Daniel, Daniel does show fear at points. 45:40.145 --> 45:40.405 [SPEAKER_00]: Hmm. 45:40.805 --> 45:45.227 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean to be fair until the end of the second season, he was the only mortal. 45:45.607 --> 45:45.887 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 45:45.927 --> 45:46.128 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 45:46.168 --> 45:47.548 [SPEAKER_04]: No, it was reasonable fear. 45:47.708 --> 45:48.048 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 45:48.068 --> 45:49.069 [SPEAKER_04]: You just, you know, fear. 45:50.613 --> 45:59.819 [SPEAKER_00]: I could see again, it being her mom, no, I don't know, I feel like there's just like this inherent nervousness in him. 46:00.480 --> 46:01.560 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 46:02.721 --> 46:06.804 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, any, any other, most likely, too, so you want to shut out? 46:08.285 --> 46:09.446 [SPEAKER_04]: Most likely to be a rock star. 46:10.767 --> 46:13.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there's a lot of stuff, definitely. 46:13.528 --> 46:14.268 [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely, let's start. 46:14.328 --> 46:19.669 [SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad that they didn't go the composer roots and we're getting our rock star list out. 46:19.709 --> 46:31.611 [SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't do like, oh, God, it would have been not like that I think it would be awful if they were a hip hop in this show, but it would have been awful if they made a stud, like a rapper or something, nobody wants that. 46:32.132 --> 46:34.552 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think like what other music, like a pop musician? 46:34.632 --> 46:37.033 [SPEAKER_00]: No, no, he needs something that's more raw. 46:37.733 --> 46:37.953 [SPEAKER_00]: Right. 46:40.028 --> 46:44.413 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, any other thoughts about what's coming? 46:44.973 --> 46:45.854 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm just excited. 46:46.275 --> 46:47.096 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm very excited. 46:47.116 --> 46:47.997 [SPEAKER_04]: This is going to be a lot of fun. 46:48.662 --> 46:48.922 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 46:49.602 --> 46:50.302 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, everything we see. 46:50.342 --> 46:52.963 [SPEAKER_00]: And it feels like the tone has changed. 46:53.923 --> 46:55.224 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're in the modern area. 46:55.264 --> 47:07.067 [SPEAKER_00]: And I've noticed there's like, at one point I asked you, I was like, this is very 90s tinge, but I think we are having in general, I'm noticing a moment overall with like the 90s or having their comeback now in fashion and things like that. 47:07.607 --> 47:08.007 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 47:08.807 --> 47:10.808 [SPEAKER_04]: All the Gen Zers are obsessed with the 90s now. 47:11.388 --> 47:22.737 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's appropriate because the movie came out then too, so I'm I'm here for for that for this for this sort of like modern day glam rock vibes. 47:23.957 --> 47:30.342 [SPEAKER_00]: I saw in the longest preview that I again I'll share in the show notes that they're we're talking about list odd. 47:30.682 --> 47:36.787 [SPEAKER_00]: We're going to see list odd and his band together and there like reparté and I'm really looking forward to that. 47:36.827 --> 47:37.728 [SPEAKER_00]: I think that's going to be fun. 47:38.176 --> 47:39.039 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think so too. 47:39.099 --> 47:41.365 [SPEAKER_04]: He's going to be, he's going to be trolling them, right? 47:41.927 --> 47:45.236 [SPEAKER_04]: We're like, I'm the star, work on your riffs or whatever. 47:45.818 --> 47:53.562 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it's also like going to help him heal a bit where he feels, you know, jilted by Louie, especially after this book. 47:54.643 --> 47:55.463 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice! 47:58.865 --> 48:02.287 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, wait, can't wait for the relationship drama. 48:02.307 --> 48:07.930 [SPEAKER_00]: Like it looks like in the first preview that came out like they were in divorce court or something like mediating, I bet. 48:08.930 --> 48:09.230 [SPEAKER_04]: I bet. 48:12.632 --> 48:18.256 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, so we, we want to hear what everyone at home is most excited for too. 48:18.376 --> 48:22.458 [SPEAKER_00]: So please, I guess we just lower hounds at the lower hounds.com. 48:22.938 --> 48:24.519 [SPEAKER_00]: We don't have a special email set up yet. 48:26.220 --> 48:29.943 [SPEAKER_00]: But you're going to be leading weekly the vampire the start coverage starting next week. 48:30.423 --> 48:32.044 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes, thank you for doing this outline. 48:32.224 --> 48:37.667 [SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, we're going to be, I'll be outlining and we'll be recapping and we'll be having a lot of fun. 48:38.388 --> 48:38.608 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 48:39.432 --> 48:44.654 [SPEAKER_00]: and I'm going to press forward my reread of the books so that I can do comparisons as well. 48:46.555 --> 48:47.075 [SPEAKER_04]: Very good. 48:48.076 --> 48:56.880 [SPEAKER_00]: And we already mentioned there's going to be weekly house of the Dragon coverage with episode one of season three drops on June 21st. 48:57.300 --> 49:01.622 [SPEAKER_00]: I think David was talking about a preview up for that a week earlier too, so watch out for that. 49:02.222 --> 49:03.963 [SPEAKER_00]: What else is going on on the main feed? 49:05.217 --> 49:07.398 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, we've got Widow's Bay. 49:07.778 --> 49:11.260 [SPEAKER_04]: We did a mid-season, and we're going to do a final episode on it. 49:11.300 --> 49:14.482 [SPEAKER_04]: It's really good if you're not watching it, and you like her, go watch it. 49:14.582 --> 49:15.123 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a lot of fun. 49:15.203 --> 49:16.003 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a hard comedy. 49:16.423 --> 49:16.643 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 49:17.344 --> 49:21.646 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's my favorite thing on TV right now until the Vampire Let's Talk starts. 49:21.706 --> 49:22.066 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 49:22.667 --> 49:23.007 [SPEAKER_04]: Agreed. 49:23.767 --> 49:27.149 [SPEAKER_04]: We recorded a manual in Grugu episode that should be out the day before this. 49:28.430 --> 49:29.270 [SPEAKER_04]: So check that out. 49:29.691 --> 49:31.572 [SPEAKER_04]: If you're a big Star Wars fan, 49:33.161 --> 49:35.482 [SPEAKER_04]: And the spider, no, I also got a lot. 49:35.502 --> 49:37.522 [SPEAKER_00]: Because you're, yeah, I don't know why. 49:38.202 --> 49:41.643 [SPEAKER_00]: Charlotte and I are, we were recording later this week. 49:41.663 --> 49:42.523 [SPEAKER_00]: So watch out for that. 49:42.583 --> 49:46.684 [SPEAKER_00]: I think at the end of this week, and that was a binge drop. 49:47.124 --> 49:49.785 [SPEAKER_00]: So it's just going to be one episode because it's so busy. 49:49.945 --> 49:51.105 [SPEAKER_00]: But it's really good. 49:51.345 --> 49:51.966 [SPEAKER_00]: It's really good. 49:52.866 --> 49:57.007 [SPEAKER_00]: Definitely, yeah, right now I feel quite spoiled, but TV. 49:57.087 --> 49:57.307 [SPEAKER_00]: So. 49:58.438 --> 50:08.903 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you, if spider noir intrigues you, like you want a more noir version of Spider Man play by Nick Cage and who doesn't watch that? 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