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[SPEAKER_03]: As many of you know, I'm working on a new book project entitled SIVCAUSUM.
[SPEAKER_03]: God's algorithms and the rise of a civilizational cosmocracy.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what I'm basically arguing in that book is that world order is breaking up into three distinct borders.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's one of the reasons why the world seems so crazy right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are actually
[SPEAKER_03]: Theopolitics, techno politics, and astropolitics.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, theopolitics involves how religion is retaking center stage in the competition between nations and civilizations for geopolitical power and influence, you know, just across the physical birth as a part.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there is a second theater.
[SPEAKER_03]: in the cloud, and that's technical capabilities.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that involves the competition for dominance over the technologies that are shaping civilization itself.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we're talking about artificial intelligence, quantum computing, cyber, and digital technologies, and the idea behind techno politics is that he who controls AI, quantum computing in the light, in many ways, controls the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there is a literal AI arms race going on right now as we speak, particularly between the United States and China, you know, it wasn't a coincidence that China's trip to China, Trump actually brought the CEO of Nvidia, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Jensen Fwang, with him in his meeting Wijie, that was a message, a techno political message.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then astropolitics is the extension
[SPEAKER_03]: beyond the planet itself into orbital space, you know, satellites, moon missions, the hopes of terraforming Mars and the broader cosmos.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what astropolitics involves is the competition to control the ultimate high ground.
[SPEAKER_03]: as it were and who writes the rules of humanities, multi-planetary future.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's absolutely fast.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, we thought Star Wars was just a myth.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're in it in the midst of it right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so together, these three great theaters of civilizational competition form a kind of vertical hierarchy.
[SPEAKER_03]: techno politics is the competition over the cloud that covers the earth.
[SPEAKER_03]: And an astro politics is the competition above the earth, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So these, these are really the three dimensions in which civilization order of the 21st century will ultimately be decided.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, the key is it's not just on earth and it's not just in the clouds, it's even in space itself.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so my book is a proposed model.
[SPEAKER_03]: for how all three of these orders fuse together into a single system that I'm calling a civilizational cosmocracy, or Civ Cosm for short.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are living in the midst of a rising Civ Cosm world.
[SPEAKER_03]: And in our first video on that, I talked about the foundation of Theo politics, which is the demographic revolution
[SPEAKER_03]: that's happening, literally all over the world.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the pattern is very simple, and we see it repeated again and again and again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Secular liberals have more or less stopped having kids.
[SPEAKER_03]: All the while religious conservatives are having more kids than ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Demographers are in wide agreement on this.
[SPEAKER_03]: The religious R&D and herring the earth, and so you might want to check out some of those that earlier video I did on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I talked about the rise of stivolizare, or constitutional fioch receives stivolization states.
[SPEAKER_03]: How this is actually the number one most popular form of government that is a constitutional fioch receives specifically, they're making up about 55% of the world's population.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then when you combine that with civilization states like China and India, secularism
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[SPEAKER_03]: In this truly walks, I want to turn to the political field of carrying these forces forward.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that vehicle has a name and its civilizational populism.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now again, the field politics is the framework running throughout this entire series here.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the study of how theological cosmovisions organized political power, determined sovereignty, identity, and the direction of the nation
[SPEAKER_03]: The 21st century's deepest conflict is not only between civilizations at their borders.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's also within states, over whether they'll be defined by secular liberal universalism or civilizational religious particularity.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, civilizational populism is the outgrowth of this religious demographic.
[SPEAKER_03]: where more and more nations are becoming majority religious.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now their sacred identities are about to be inscribed in law.
[SPEAKER_03]: And across the Western world, in particular, they're winning.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in his landmark study office, religions and the global rise of civilizational populism, the scholar Issaan Ilma's,
[SPEAKER_03]: very important, I think, advance on Sam Huntington's clash of civilizations.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Huntington imagined civilizations colliding at their borders, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: The West versus Islam, you know, Russia versus Ukraine, this kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a clash at the border of one civilization versus a
[SPEAKER_03]: Neil Mott shows that primary clash right now is actually not at the borders.
[SPEAKER_03]: The primary civilizational structural struggle is internal.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a struggle within each state of whether its identity will be defined by universal liberal secularism or civilizational religious particularity.
[SPEAKER_03]: So take for example, Erdogan's Turkey.
[SPEAKER_03]: So his party, which is an Islamic nationalist party known as the AKP, they didn't simply introduce religion in the public life.
[SPEAKER_03]: They literally replaced the nation as the sovereign unit with what's called the Uma, the entire global body of Muslims.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Turkey's foreign policy under Erdogan is not conventional national interest calculation.
[SPEAKER_03]: It really is the projection
[SPEAKER_03]: civilizational identity onto the world stage.
[SPEAKER_03]: Look at Narendra Modi's India.
[SPEAKER_03]: So in Dutwa, which is basically a Hindu version of Sharia law, it runs the same logic through Hindu grammar.
[SPEAKER_03]: So his party, the Bharati Ajana, the part of the BJP, they're the civilizational carrier.
[SPEAKER_03]: and the Indian state is the guardian of Hindu culture.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this is a nationalism.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's civilizationalism in religious dresses.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the clash that Yelmao's is describing is a battle over what kind of political community a state will actually be, whether to find by,
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the thin, managerial grammar of liberal rights or the thick grammar of ancient sacred civilization with identity.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, consider what's happening right now in the heart of the secular West in Europe.
[SPEAKER_03]: The continents post to be the most secularized, Europe, Georgia, Maloney, prime minister of the public, and she ran up to there with the brothers
[SPEAKER_03]: under the motto, God, hold that, and fam.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's getting a little windy here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if you hear you probably hear it on the microphone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me turn around here, hopefully get out of this window.
[SPEAKER_03]: Victor Orban spent 16 years building a Christian democracy in Hungary, and he specifically stated, a Christian democracy by definition is not liberal.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is illiberal.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is not secular.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is Christian.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he described Hungary as the last Christian bastion, and he built a restored nearly 4,000 churches in a decade, or think of Carol Noroltsky of Poland, the President of Poland.
[SPEAKER_03]: In June of 2025, I got shown we'll see a year ago, actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: He spent the day before his inauguration on pilgrimage to Yastagora.
[SPEAKER_03]: placing his nation under protection of the black Madonna, the icon of the black Madonna, rather than the Brussels charter, for example.
[SPEAKER_03]: None of this is symbolic.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the political declaration about the source of the government's legitimate authority.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is rooted in an ancient secret sacred, I should say, religion.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here at Vilders led his freedom party to become the largest in the Dutch parliament back in 2023.
[SPEAKER_03]: and he campaigned on an explicit platform of defending today, Christian values against what he called the existential civilization threat of his longization.
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, this isn't near nationalism.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is civilizatialism.
[SPEAKER_03]: These aren't fringe movements.
[SPEAKER_03]: They are growing parties and prime ministers articulating a very coherent theological vision.
[SPEAKER_03]: that in effect says Western civilization has a sacred foundation and defending it is a political obligation.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to say though, of all the arguments I'm hearing coming out of Europe, by far, my favorite is the most ironic of them all, and that comes from Marine Le Pen, of France, National Raleigh.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's actually arguing that their national doctrine
[SPEAKER_03]: She's arguing that obviously did not descend from nowhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is the inheritance of a Christian civilization, which according to French particularity, according to French interpretation, requires a separation between church and state, between public life and private life.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where Laïcite comes from.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is Marine Le Pen.
[SPEAKER_03]: It comes from Francis' distinctive Christian identity.
[SPEAKER_03]: And without maintaining that distinctive Christian identity, they're going to lose their secular public square.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's because Islam knows no such distinction, church versus state.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you actually have national leaders in voking Christianity in order to save secularism.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's seriously truth will always be stranger than fiction.
[SPEAKER_03]: The central question of the 21st century is not which power will dawning.
[SPEAKER_03]: The central question is which cosmovision will prevail?
[SPEAKER_03]: Civilization populism is the early political expression of that contest within Western democracies.
[SPEAKER_03]: The demand that the civilization state model prevailed over liberal universalism, even even in the heart of the West.
[SPEAKER_03]: And these movements are winning.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're winning elections because there are articulating something millions upon millions.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're talking, again, billions overall around the world, feel in their bone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bones, that the thin universalism of secular liberalism is not sufficient to sustain a civilization.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now what's being lost is something sacred.
[SPEAKER_03]: So as Yulmas put it today, we are increasingly finding not conflict between civilizations, but conflict within states over their civilizational identity.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that conflict really is the story of our moment.
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