[UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, the great and powerful mystery here and Jay and today for today's episode we're going to do something special.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to release an episode that we already recorded a while ago with Jeremiah Byron from the Bigfoot Society podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, like we talked about on Monday.
[UNKNOWN]: He was just diagnosed with large cell leukemia.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, so down the links below will be his, uh, whether it's called care bridge, which is a website.
[UNKNOWN]: You can just kind of follow his medical journey, and then there will be his go fund me, listed.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't have to, don't feel like you have to donate, but if you, if you are felt led to donate, or you can, please support him.
[UNKNOWN]: He's been a friend of the show for a really long time.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a good guy.
[UNKNOWN]: And we were really care about him and please just pray for him.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's what he asked for the most when I was talking to him on the phone.
[UNKNOWN]: He just said, just please everybody if you can be a prayer or warrior and pray for him.
[UNKNOWN]: So hopefully you enjoy this rerelease.
[UNKNOWN]: We don't do this very often, but we thought it was a special occasion.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So enjoy this episode and put hopefully this gets Jeremiah and your thoughts and and in your prayers.
[UNKNOWN]: So enjoy this episode and this was a fun interview we did with him.
[UNKNOWN]: Bye!
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[UNKNOWN]: Welcome to Cryptids of the Corn.
[UNKNOWN]: Each week, Justin and Jay take a look at a topic in the crypto and paranormal world.
[UNKNOWN]: They focus on the Midwest and Appalachia of the U.S., but sometimes they venture out, with everything from well-known monster sightings to one off-cryptids, live-person interviews to actual fieldwork sneaking in some science lessons.
[UNKNOWN]: They're sure to be something you'll enjoy.
[UNKNOWN]: Please join us this episode of Cryptids of the Corn.
[UNKNOWN]: Hello, hello.
[UNKNOWN]: And welcome back to Crips with the Coin Podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: I am the Great and Powerful Mystery.
[UNKNOWN]: And I am the dynamic and ultra intelligent J.
[UNKNOWN]: Not really, that is a lie.
[UNKNOWN]: Together, we are super excited to have a really special guest on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: We're doing a crossover show, so it'll be a similar show when both of us show are on both podcasts.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm going to do it basic Justin fashion
[UNKNOWN]: Sing, mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: This'll be fun.
[UNKNOWN]: Jeremiah was a bullfrog.
[UNKNOWN]: Was it good friend of mine?
[UNKNOWN]: I never understood a single word he said.
[UNKNOWN]: But he always treated me kind.
[UNKNOWN]: I like it.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you know I was gonna do that?
[UNKNOWN]: I did not.
[UNKNOWN]: I was practicing really funny.
[UNKNOWN]: Right before we started recording, but don't Jeremiah from the Bigfoot Society podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: Hello.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for being on.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, how's it going Justin and Jay nice to meet nice to see you again.
[UNKNOWN]: I've already got you a cryptic con.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right to hang out with you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah last time you see me.
[UNKNOWN]: I was belligerent probably kind of the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, but not not alcohol.
[UNKNOWN]: That's true, lack of sleep.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm psyched to talk to you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys are rocking it on cryptids of the corn out there in Ohio.
[UNKNOWN]: Similar to Iowa.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a corner, but yeah, it's all court.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, literally from Northwest Ohio all the way out to probably Idaho Yeah, Northwest Ohio all the way out to Idaho It's probably about the same towards the top of all those states All right, so basically I think we'll go first if you're okay with that.
[UNKNOWN]: I love that.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's do it.
[UNKNOWN]: How did your podcast come to be what kind of got you going with it?
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: That is, that is the question for the ages.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, so, uh, big fun society is a podcast that I started back in February of 2019.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, when I was a little kid, I was into washing weird stuff with my dad, like, uh, in search of that whole story you've heard a million times, you know, that's my story, but then when I got a little older during high school, I was kind of like, I was out of it, you know, but then when I got,
[UNKNOWN]: around 2018, 2017 I got involved.
[UNKNOWN]: I worked at Apple with a few guys.
[UNKNOWN]: We got into like talking about weird stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: We found out there's a crypt of right next to Des Moines called the VAMU to visitor.
[UNKNOWN]: So I got involved with my buddy Andrew was doing the filming for Tara in the skies by STM, small town monsters.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, dude, come with me and check this out.
[UNKNOWN]: This is going to be awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: So I was like, all right, let's do it, and I didn't know what he was going to have me do is be the guy off camera asking questions so that they could film it.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, just come up with something off the top of your head.
[UNKNOWN]: And because he had me do that, I out of that situation, I found out that I actually love doing this and I really love the weird stuff, the cryptid stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: So I combine that all together and eventually I was like, dude.
[UNKNOWN]: No one that has to give you the, you know, like you don't have to ask for a mission to do this.
[UNKNOWN]: So I was like, let's do it.
[UNKNOWN]: So I literally just start talking to my phone using the anchor app and it's kind of evolve since there.
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, I talked to different people every week about all sorts of weird stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of big foot stuff at, you know, as in the name, right, but that's that's how I got started.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a lot less alcohol involved than how we got started.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: We pretty much were.
[UNKNOWN]: I came up to the bar one night.
[UNKNOWN]: I was, I don't know, I was kind of on a rip.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I walked up to Jay.
[UNKNOWN]: Jay was, Jay was my bartender.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, do you believe in Bigfoot?
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, well, yeah, yeah, and we talked and then we kept talking and then eventually we started a little like a local big foot club, which was ours, our big foot society.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the hardened County big foot society.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I love that.
[UNKNOWN]: And then it just everybody got busy like the core members it was just getting really hard to schedule stuff and then just end up being me and Jay sitting talking anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: So eventually we're just like,
[UNKNOWN]: to sort of podcast, and it was horrible, and it was great.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'd say both, I'll wrap to the one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and we just had somebody who was, I can't remember, sorry, whoever's listening, and I know I try to give out shout-a-stame, say they just went back and they loved the first episode.
[UNKNOWN]: And like you could hear German shepherds barking, a cat jumps on the table while we're recording.
[UNKNOWN]: Next wife comes in the room and you just hear
[UNKNOWN]: walking through the background of that audio, it was horrible.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's like, it's those episodes that got you to where you are right now because I have the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: My first five episodes are rough and it's literally just me talking into my phone while I'm waiting to do Uber trips in downtown Des Moins.
[UNKNOWN]: And you can literally hear like cop cars coming back in my car.
[UNKNOWN]: Now it's today, you know, I'm talking to people like, you know, I just interviewed Mark Mercell to our awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's coming out in a few weeks and that's like I'm able to talk to all these people and it's I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: It keeps me going man.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, yeah, I mean, that's almost a message to anybody out there doing anything they want to do.
[UNKNOWN]: Just go out.
[UNKNOWN]: Just start doing it.
[UNKNOWN]: Just start doing it and get the ball rolling in.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll take you where it needs to take you.
[UNKNOWN]: But you've got to put the effort in and just just do it inspiration.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, start somewhere every journey begins with a single step.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: You're so good.
[UNKNOWN]: But no, but those early cryptids of the corn.
[UNKNOWN]: And so like literally, I can talk to those because after I met you at a crypticon, those, I was like, man, I gotta listen to these podcasts.
[UNKNOWN]: So like I've been just about three or four of them right off the bat.
[UNKNOWN]: Those kept me awake during the plane ride back to Iowa.
[UNKNOWN]: That he's seeing actually.
[UNKNOWN]: But they're really good.
[UNKNOWN]: Like they're not rough.
[UNKNOWN]: They're good, dude.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we appreciate that.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't believe it, but thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, what do you got for us?
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: So Justin, first question for me is for you.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: And actually this is kind of a weird situation because you both are there, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So if the other one wants the chime in, I'm not going to stop you from chime in.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, but I just and here we go.
[UNKNOWN]: What episode of Crypto's of the Coran so far has been received the best by your audience in a way that you weren't expecting?
[UNKNOWN]: Was there like, has there been a sleeper episode where you're like, well, where did this come from, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I definitely think it's our organic UFO kind of trilogy who just because I know I was really passionate about it, but I even said when we started recording them like it's especially the second one and the three of our we've done because I'm just like.
[UNKNOWN]: I know I really am excited about it, but it's just such a weird like I got a lot of pushback from the UFO community I got a lot of heat.
[UNKNOWN]: They did not like it and literally in that episode I say like this only represents what did I say like 5% of UFO sightings or something Yeah, yeah, this is a really small section of UFO sightings that are what I feel organic like creatures from the upper atmosphere and
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody loved it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's blown up.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we were just on, uh, Appalachian intelligence for it.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, wow.
[UNKNOWN]: Talk to Tony about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, when we have, it's just like it, it gained its own life.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was so definitely did not expect that I didn't think of people would like it.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's all three of them in our top, you know, five episodes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But it definitely gained, added the whole show.
[UNKNOWN]: It gained its own, it's own life.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that was a weird one for I guess I like it because when I'm glad everybody else likes it because they're going to keep talking about it right exactly it is fun to talk about to Hmm It's stuff like that that you know is is so weird like Those episodes that people just like you can turn that you could write a book on that I mean it's like you know it, you know, and
[UNKNOWN]: But that's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Jay, do you agree as well?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I definitely agree with that, but what came to my mind was our mothman trilogy.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh gosh, because I mean, we recorded that over two days over nine hours of content.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just, you know, when it was over, you know, we publish it all.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, that's a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: No one's going to want to listen to that.
[UNKNOWN]: Like all of that.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, most of the people we talked to, they're like, oh, yeah, you know, we loved your mouth man, listen to it.
[UNKNOWN]: One guy even said, listen to it, like three times each.
[UNKNOWN]: She listened to it three times.
[UNKNOWN]: Like each episode.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm, it just, yeah, that blows my mind.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, wow, thousands of people listen to that whole thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the whole thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, nobody's going to listen to this.
[UNKNOWN]: So that one, like, really shocked me that that it was, well, received that, well, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: To that note, it's like what annoyed me about other people doing them off, man stuff is that it was very singular, you know, you just get a like every how did I put basically they already have their ending point, they want and they just give you the path to that point.
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't want to do that.
[UNKNOWN]: So we just gave everything.
[UNKNOWN]: You gave, you got it all.
[UNKNOWN]: All the weird stuff, all the poltergeist, all the, you know, all the entities, all the, you know, UFO sightings, because the mockman was definitely not the star of the stuff when it was happening, right, a point pleasant.
[UNKNOWN]: It was not the big thing.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was the big deal in point pleasant.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, they seen so many UFOs during that flap that they got bored of them.
[UNKNOWN]: People stopped caring.
[UNKNOWN]: There was UFO scene every day
[UNKNOWN]: Right, it's wild.
[UNKNOWN]: You imagine seeing that and just finally like day 72 being bored of it.
[UNKNOWN]: Not caring It's like what is yeah, yeah, what is I've seen that thing for a year I threw a rock at the other day Turn purple and vibrate it dude, so we stop doing that Yeah, no, that's a good one Jay
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what popped in my head first, just I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: Just me experiences of, you know, I mean, especially meeting people at like conferences, like cryptic on, you know, you just, you never know what someone's going to tell you.
[UNKNOWN]: And sometimes you just shocked by what people reveal.
[UNKNOWN]: Who's listening and what episodes they like and speak?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, no, we are just drum people from Ohio.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, pro chess.
[UNKNOWN]: We are not celebrities.
[UNKNOWN]: That was weird, wasn't it?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: I just like I'm not like people want to design stuff and like people drive and business is to meet us and just like, we're just some guys.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Come to the bar.
[UNKNOWN]: But hey, thank you to the people that do man.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Heck yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Those people, you guys rock.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys rock and like, you know, meet you guys in person.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys are the most down to earth dudes.
[UNKNOWN]: You're right over by the mountain monsters, literally.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, hanging out with those guys, but
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, I mean, when I have a booth at the Vameter Visitor, I love it when people come up and, you know, this one guy Pat was like, dude, God tell you about this big foot sighting.
[UNKNOWN]: I had a town over south here, you know, like, uh, back in the 90s.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, yes, this is amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: Bring it on, Pat.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the best part, probably.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just getting those stories before they die, you know, because most of the time, those, those exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, those encounters die with people.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll tell you a quick little story if you want our first logo are Harry and the big foot in the cornfield I'll call him Harry.
[UNKNOWN]: That was one of the first encounters that ever got told to us and the guy that told us to us Does not he will not admit it was a big foot, right?
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't believe so here in northwest Ohio The on harvest the corn, you know is easily six and a half to eight foot tall, you know six and a half The bad year at harvest, you know taking corn down
[UNKNOWN]: And we often run combines at night all night during harvest just because he had it, you know, to get it in so the guy that gave us the encounter Kind of came up to us and he's like really aggressive.
[UNKNOWN]: You believe in all that big foot crap and we're like, yeah, you know, we do like, it's not real and like, all right, you know, that's, yeah, that's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: But I did see something weird once.
[UNKNOWN]: And he proceeds to tell us that when he was combining that night, you know, they have big, everybody at home that may not know.
[UNKNOWN]: They have really big, like basically stadium lights on the front of them.
[UNKNOWN]: So they don't hit stuff in the corner as well.
[UNKNOWN]: And we live in a college town.
[UNKNOWN]: So the college kids do all kinds of stuff out in the cornfield.
[UNKNOWN]: So he is not a stranger to having people in the cornfield when he's harvesting.
[UNKNOWN]: But he's telling us that one weird, he's like, this is really weird.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, I see a guy stand up and run.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, that's not what's weird.
[UNKNOWN]: What was weird is his shoulders and his head were above the core and the whole time he was running.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like yeah and we haven't said like do you think at all it could have been a big foot or anything Oh no that's all blue crap that don't exist that don't exist said even even fast and anyone is ever seen run before yeah So I don't think it was Shack and you same bolt out there No Probably not I mean it could be shack, but he's not that fast That's true yeah, you got to remember that it'd be dire but yeah, that's how our first logo came and we actually had the logo before we had the name
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: That's amazing and then I stole from children on the corn.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, I really want to ask him that.
[UNKNOWN]: So here's a funny story.
[UNKNOWN]: This is, I'll tag this on.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is the first time I heard it you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: So I, I'm trying to, to think of a, I do a podcast for the Patreon where I talk about like what I'm
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, oh, I gotta get, come up with a name for this.
[UNKNOWN]: It's gonna, I gotta be really punny and clever.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, creatures are the corn.
[UNKNOWN]: This is gonna be awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I was like, hmm, you'd probably should check because someone probably already has that.
[UNKNOWN]: And I looked it up on Apple podcast, and I was like, son of a god.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh, these guys are actually good.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Very nice.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So ended up being called the Iowa Files instead.
[UNKNOWN]: I like it.
[UNKNOWN]: Iowa Files sounds pretty cool too.
[UNKNOWN]: when it's one of the best names I've ever heard for it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just it's so fun.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's fun, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: A little PSA for all the people thinking about starting a podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: Make sure you can spell your name very easily.
[UNKNOWN]: Because that's a big thing with like typing in to get hits and stuff on search like all on the podcast apps.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, uh, because that was a, uh, well, uh, Jerry from Hillbilly Horror Stories.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I want to tell me that.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so it really helped us.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like to have that nice, easy, rememberable name because you have some of these shows that have really awesome names, but they are, I can't spell.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, exactly can be a bit wordy if I have yeah, I have to type it in more than three times to figure out what it is I'm probably given up Also by the URL for the website even if you think that it's not gonna turn anything because someone will buy it and then you will
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to go into it, but I've got to deal with it a lot more than $10 a year.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just buy your URL.
[UNKNOWN]: Just buy it.
[UNKNOWN]: Just buy it, guys.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know for you, but copyright here in Ohio, I think it's 110 bucks.
[UNKNOWN]: Like we cop your editor name immediately, just because it was like, you know, we don't want to deal with it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm sure you listen to Derek show them out on our monsters among us.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh.
[UNKNOWN]: You remember him talking about his early days with that copyright claim?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: He had a change in his original name.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, he was here to be monsters.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, really?
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: So after that, I was like, he just... Get it, get it copyrighted and just not deal with it, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Wise words.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure, we go on to the next question.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, just turn is it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it I think it's mine.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think so.
[UNKNOWN]: All right And listeners are probably new She's right anyways, but what for guys?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm all right.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll roll it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all good.
[UNKNOWN]: Jay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, Jay What is your I appreciated what you were wearing at crypticon?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, my tent is like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Your tin foil hat.
[UNKNOWN]: So what is your favorite tin foil hat topic.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, what do you just love oh, um, you know, I guess I could be very specific 9 11 always interests me.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there we go.
[UNKNOWN]: That one's a pretty deep one that just dear heavens die right into
[UNKNOWN]: How old are you guys when that happened 27 oh when it happened or Right now where you where you alive when that happened.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, guys.
[UNKNOWN]: They're great.
[UNKNOWN]: And they put it on the TV I was in six grade Mrs. Butterfield.
[UNKNOWN]: I had this a Mrs. Butterfield.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, wow.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember it all because they got us out of the cafeteria And it's all back in home room And I remember Mr. Klaus and the principal
[UNKNOWN]: They were all disgusted with the teachers whether they should show it and they said yes Everybody needs to see this and they put it on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, like that went and yeah We lived through it and it's kind of crazy thinking going back and thinking through those days And then moving forward to like you know research you do now and stuff like that just some things are just weird
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I want you to be very specific because these are why we don't touch these topics on the main show very much.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You deal with in the motives of the act, not the actual questioning of the act.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Because there's some people that say people didn't die.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't want you to be lumped in the loop.
[UNKNOWN]: No, obviously not that.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, but I'm just
[UNKNOWN]: What led up to it, or what the motivation was behind it?
[UNKNOWN]: That's what your question was.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and that's where they can spear so you can park and come in.
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, like to reflect the wearing of the hat more or less.
[UNKNOWN]: Like the alien talk, the space talk, things like that.
[UNKNOWN]: interest me a lot i think there's a i just i just think there's a lot of uh information that's out there that is all misdirection uh some things that just might seem like fantastic crazy stories you know uh are just there to mislead you to so you don't know the actual truth whereas in the truth they might be telling you as well is also not the truth you know or what the the main narrative you're being told but i think there's a lot out there that's
[UNKNOWN]: thrown out there as conspiracy that is just there to also mislead you and misdirect you to take that focus off stop you know it's not this main thing that's going on just like a misdirection and then once you go down that rabbit hold deep enough and now you're lumped into this group of people that will believe anything and you know and you're still further away from the truth than you ever were at the beginning of it to begin you know what I mean absolutely I totally get mad so that's a good
[UNKNOWN]: for me right now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's...
[UNKNOWN]: Egyptian civilizations in the Grand Canyon.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, like that one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm desperately trying to find someone to interview about that.
[UNKNOWN]: So if anyone is listening from cryptids of the corn audience, oh, my audience.
[UNKNOWN]: And you're like, I know about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I wrote a book.
[UNKNOWN]: Please email me if it's decided you go that comment.
[UNKNOWN]: I love to talk to you.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, not not not any experts or anything.
[UNKNOWN]: Just like people at casually would talk about it maybe, but nothing like, research heavy.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't, I don't know anyone.
[UNKNOWN]: It's very niche Joe wasn't into that was he not as in his research.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think I think he we've talked about it We just think he's like deep dive into it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't think so.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I may have known somebody that is interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: How some of the mountains and structures are named after you know Egyptian places and here are you know cities in Egypt.
[UNKNOWN]: It's weird.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of weird
[UNKNOWN]: And then that story of them that guy finding that cave down in that had like Egyptian artifacts and mummified remains That's the one.
[UNKNOWN]: I just know it's one of the best place to find razor back suckers
[UNKNOWN]: Which is a fish.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a fish.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: They're critically endangered in the US and they live in the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
[UNKNOWN]: Kissing pigs or something.
[UNKNOWN]: Have you ever been to the Grand Canyon?
[UNKNOWN]: Raise your backs out of it.
[UNKNOWN]: Actually.
[UNKNOWN]: I've been there once as a kid growing up.
[UNKNOWN]: We went out west and I went to the Hoover Dam and then the Grand Canyon.
[UNKNOWN]: It's huge.
[UNKNOWN]: Jay Lothrom was a brother's.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's not true.
[UNKNOWN]: He's lying.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a high price to pay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, worth worth the experience of seeing the Grand Canyon though.
[UNKNOWN]: You have to sacrifice one of your kids every time you go, yeah, feed the whole feed the whole yeah, all right, I got a question for you all right, though.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, this is when I'm asking you because I know our answer for it.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is kind of a double-edged thing why I'm asking it.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you feel is your maybe not least successful episode, but the one you didn't like the most or you the one you had the most problems with or anything like that?
[UNKNOWN]: What's the episode sticks out in your head of being man?
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't like how I did that or man.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I definitely know what one we have.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I know which one it is.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is not reflecting on I'm going to preface this by this is not reflecting on the person at all.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that the audio in the Todd niece episode where interview Todd niece was really rough and not up to my expectations.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's my highest downloaded episode of the whole time.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, people love it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, dude, imagine if the guy has killer Mike, like, come on.
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, that's nothing on Todd's a great guy.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, that's that's the one that comes to my right off right off the bat.
[UNKNOWN]: One of my earlier ones, I talked to Shane Corson, and I was very green still, and I didn't feel like it was like really like, I love those scenes awesome, and the stuff we talked about is on it, but it didn't have like, I was expecting like, magic, you know, like, you don't get there until you're a few years into it, but like people really like that one too.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you never know what's gonna, what's gonna really hit, yeah?
[UNKNOWN]: That's where you gotta, you gotta go with it to the best you can,
[UNKNOWN]: it is funny how that works though like the ones you have the least expectations for just like really do well yeah jrd knows what i'm gonna say is are definitely our worst episode it's our it's our fault it's very much our fault it's the uv the whole day episode and it still does great on downloads oh no
[UNKNOWN]: Well we were like we need to record an episode and that's before we had a schedule and everything down like we were like we were still real I mean we're still new to this but that was when we were really new oh for sure I mean that was last that was the end of November that was like episode I don't even remember season early season one right yeah it was still it was a learning moment though yeah definitely was you can't drink and do this uh so we had a
[UNKNOWN]: Drinking heavy and I mean heavy.
[UNKNOWN]: I had two buckets of reds plus a lot of crown apple shots and Jay was right there with me and I'm not yeah yeah I was drinking a lot too and I'm not a very big guy so you know it does.
[UNKNOWN]: I have about 150 pounds on Jay.
[UNKNOWN]: He's two of me.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So wow
[UNKNOWN]: So it was and we were drinking hard.
[UNKNOWN]: So we got the bread idea of hey, let's record an episode.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be fun It was like there because a couple.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean at that point we had
[UNKNOWN]: 20 listeners.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah 15.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know and they were like a couple one wanted to drunk drunk cask is we had talked about doing it and like they put on Facebook page they wanted to hear it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like I'll do it the whole day.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we get to the studio and we are like can't sit in the chair.
[UNKNOWN]: We're still drinking and I remember like first two three minutes in the podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: I was just like this is so fake.
[UNKNOWN]: about to fall over.
[UNKNOWN]: We're sharing a mic at this day.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was horrible and freaking everybody loved it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we found out not at first they didn't because we found out like what was a few days later, we checked on our on anchor.
[UNKNOWN]: We could see like that listen time.
[UNKNOWN]: Literally like five minutes dropped in nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, God.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're like, oh, what happened?
[UNKNOWN]: Uh oh.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're like guys in the good and then like when we kind of they're probably the first time we kind of blew up in May Then it got getting all they got a whole bunch of love Because I think we had done a lot more serious like normal like what more of our format now episodes by that point So when we started doing conferences and meeting people and stuff and people started going back to the backlog Yep, it was like normal episode normal episode
[UNKNOWN]: Blidgett, Northwest Ohio, Drunk's normal episode.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's why people kept going back to it, because it was just random, just this one episode.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We are completely blitzed.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And trying to read my paper and it was just, it was bad.
[UNKNOWN]: That was bad.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was, it was, the learning moment.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't do that again.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to work.
[UNKNOWN]: No matter how great of an idea it sounds at the time.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not going to work.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys ever watch a
[UNKNOWN]: You've that's probably before your time they used to be back in like the early before podcast days There was like a web show called Ignatian and it was these two guys that would talk about tech news But they would be blitz the whole time and it was massive because it's like that whole drunk history thing right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the people Do people it's it's tough on you, but people love it
[UNKNOWN]: That's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, we've drank on episodes now, but we've never pre-gamed seven hours for an episode.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my goodness, guys.
[UNKNOWN]: That was bad.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: And then people love it.
[UNKNOWN]: Every time we go, it's just fitting it was the Hodag Wisconsin episode.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, the drunkest state.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: The suckiest mounds.
[UNKNOWN]: The suckiest mounds was constant.
[UNKNOWN]: Can someone like make a Wisconsin postcard some graphic designer that's listening in like Wisconsin the suckiest Mounds hair.
[UNKNOWN]: I know you were gonna listen to this make that Our graphic designer.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the god-lit is thrown Hair I'm talking to you.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't do this very much in our episodes at all so this is direct message to you make that
[UNKNOWN]: I'll make that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll probably get it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know when this will come out, but I'll probably get that like two days after randomly No, I don't love it.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe it's your turn.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so let's see.
[UNKNOWN]: We're up to a just in question.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay Pretty straightforward.
[UNKNOWN]: What is big foot?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh Okay, I got a good answer for this one.
[UNKNOWN]: I think there are two
[UNKNOWN]: tall hairy creatures currently that look ape-like that are currently existing on planet earth or two types.
[UNKNOWN]: You have the I had a big foot encounter.
[UNKNOWN]: The one I had the encounter with was very much an animal.
[UNKNOWN]: It ate grain out of our horse bins, it took chickens, it did animal things, and it acted like an animal.
[UNKNOWN]: and my, it long story short, it ended with my dad shooting into the trees above it and it, and it taking off and it was this whole big thing.
[UNKNOWN]: But that thing fully was scared of the gun, when the noise went off, every action that thing did over that, like two years we had the encounters with it.
[UNKNOWN]: It was always an animal.
[UNKNOWN]: But we've had people talk to us, we've had people on the show that deal with this more spiritual or supernatural sask watch.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's why I think you have either, in my personal opinion, you have the relic commented, which is what I experienced.
[UNKNOWN]: The creature that is maybe close related to us, maybe not, you know, I don't know if it's Jackie in a Pithagus, but it is a flesh and blood creature that existed here, came over the first time the land bridge was formed in like 46 out of years ago, something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: When Bob was just a kid.
[UNKNOWN]: So, it came over and then you have the faith folk big foot.
[UNKNOWN]: So, this creature, this entity, if a folk, or across the whole planet, are famous or infamous for presenting themselves in the way you want them to present.
[UNKNOWN]: So whatever energy you're putting out there, that's how they show theirself.
[UNKNOWN]: So how many people go in the woods or go out in the deep dark places in the expect or kind of have that back in the mind, they want to see a big foot, or they have this idea that it's lurking around every tree out to get you.
[UNKNOWN]: and then you encounter the faith folk and now you have a hairy human-like creature, but it has red-gling eyes.
[UNKNOWN]: It runs off the cliff, it doesn't fall.
[UNKNOWN]: It's here that it's there, then it disappears and it reappears.
[UNKNOWN]: It faces in our trees.
[UNKNOWN]: That I completely think is
[UNKNOWN]: A phenomenon of it looks like the flesh and blood big foot, but it's not related whatsoever.
[UNKNOWN]: I really am affirmably for those these two things that look very similar and one of them looks like the big foot because of us because we put these images out there.
[UNKNOWN]: uh a lot of the Native American stories have there's some i mean that's a big statement i just said some of the Native American stories yeah making it is most the time it is described as either a lost like kind of a lost tribe but very humanistic super strong humans but very humanistic characteristics there's not a lot of supernatural stuff besides like the strength and the speed attributed to bigfoot by a lot of tribes
[UNKNOWN]: They are, you know, forest guardians, earth mothers.
[UNKNOWN]: They get names like that, but they're not phasier in and out of trees and most stories until basically white people got here with the fairies from Europe or the idea of fairies from Europe.
[UNKNOWN]: And we started getting stories and I really think that we, the faithful that are native to here are what we're seeing that are the red going eyes, the big foot that's here, they're disappearing.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's a really long answer to a
[UNKNOWN]: Good answer.
[UNKNOWN]: I like it though.
[UNKNOWN]: That is a great great answer.
[UNKNOWN]: If no one's thought that through in their mind, that will.
[UNKNOWN]: bring them on a journey for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: And I like that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's good stuff and good stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Because the one we had was definitely was terrified.
[UNKNOWN]: The one we had was terrified of that gun.
[UNKNOWN]: The one we had eight great, like if it's as interdimensional, alien, whatever, whatever the other side is, it wouldn't need to do any of that.
[UNKNOWN]: It was acting so much like a territorial animal that it just didn't make sense if it was something extra.
[UNKNOWN]: But there's people I firmly believe that have told us they're encounters with the supernatural, you know, the Bigfoot with Greg Long eyes the Bigfoot Yeah, the mind speak stuff and everything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I Believe them.
[UNKNOWN]: It just I don't think it was the same thing I seen it's not the same entity I encountered Because that thing was definitely scared of a gun We were scared of it.
[UNKNOWN]: I really like that because you know a lot of people
[UNKNOWN]: it's almost like everyone thinks like oh it's either in ape or it's skinwaka ranch portal person and it's like why can't it be two two different things or two different variances like it seems like everyone is thinking like it's
[UNKNOWN]: It's either my way or the highway with big, you know, yeah, oh, gosh, it happens.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, dude.
[UNKNOWN]: But I like that as it's good stuff just and thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: So what do you think, Bigfoot?
[UNKNOWN]: Is this is my question.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just rebuttling.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, uh, uh, personally, uh, personally.
[UNKNOWN]: from, you know, I talked to a lot of people on the side in a WAC.
[UNKNOWN]: Those guys, I've talked to the Olympic Project guys.
[UNKNOWN]: I've talked to, you know, your guys, I told Johnson from Al Moonlab, those guys.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, either side personally, what I think we're dealing with is some sort of, like,
[UNKNOWN]: I preface that by saying, I cannot explain when people are like going through portal or going into a tree or like, I mean, that stuff blows my mind and I don't know what to say to it, you know, but if I had to choose like what what I think it is, you know, and I've said it other times before, like, I think that especially in the PNW and like, um, I'm
[UNKNOWN]: watch to mountains of Oklahoma.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I think it's a some sort of weird undiscovered ape and like these pockets of I just blows my mind.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I want it to be anyways.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Your next question.
[UNKNOWN]: What has been one of your favorite interactions with a fan slash listener?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I have to pick, I know you don't have to pick
[UNKNOWN]: That's a really good question.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to, this is tricky.
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't had many, so you don't, you would think it wouldn't be hard.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I'm just starting to get into the conference circuit, you know, like this, that scripted comment was the first time that I was able to actually meet a lot of people in real life, which is very, I know you're a busy, special.
[UNKNOWN]: best.
[UNKNOWN]: It was actually pretty cool.
[UNKNOWN]: I was able to meet a guy named Jake Dressel, who listens to the show.
[UNKNOWN]: He also listens to Shannon's show, Shannon the grow show, but
[UNKNOWN]: He was like, I got to tell you my big for sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: He was telling me the story about like how we saw this like small big floating stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, man, this sounds really familiar.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he was like, oh, you may remember the story from like the Ken Gearart book about if I was like, no way, you're the dude.
[UNKNOWN]: That's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: Like if you re-ense book, like this guy's drawings are actually in, um, um, in the book.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, actually, I, I, I, sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to really go, I gave myself something.
[UNKNOWN]: There you go, now you got to tell us, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I got.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to try to be really, really, um, okay, so I live in a small Iowa town and I'm walking my kid to school.
[UNKNOWN]: And
[UNKNOWN]: We're walking back.
[UNKNOWN]: We're almost at home in, you know, in the movies when like the kid is riding up on like the 80s bike and he does like the I was like, hey, dude, what's up?
[UNKNOWN]: He's like dude.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you a bit for society?
[UNKNOWN]: What are you doing here?
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, well, we kind of live here.
[UNKNOWN]: And he was like, oh, cool, a bit for society rocks.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, see you
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, whoa, that's sweet.
[UNKNOWN]: And like, at the point where like I've been into local gas station and like this guy came up to me.
[UNKNOWN]: He was like, oh, dude, be precise.
[UNKNOWN]: How's it going?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh, oh, this baby has more reach than I thought it did.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, yeah, shout out to Pat, you're the cool dude.
[UNKNOWN]: So those are those are the most fun that come to mind.
[UNKNOWN]: That's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that 80s bike skid.
[UNKNOWN]: So I got one and Jay, you can give one to after I'm done.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to take Ricky and Austin.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, these dudes drove a trip the car on this year drove all the way from the land of Georgia to meet us Like that was their goal and it was like these guys made a B-line in dust.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like oh gosh And so shout out Ricky shout out Austin love you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah
[UNKNOWN]: And Ricky is the father, Ross is the son, but Ricky kind of walks up to me and he says, I drove 800 miles, just to tell you this.
[UNKNOWN]: I like, oh gosh, what?
[UNKNOWN]: It was like, it was a sand hill crane.
[UNKNOWN]: And I fell down.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, oh no.
[UNKNOWN]: Because there was in our mothman saga right in the middle of it.
[UNKNOWN]: So he listened to the whole freaking thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I get super upset and I throw a pen and I break a pen on the door in the studio.
[UNKNOWN]: And he started laughing.
[UNKNOWN]: He started laughing.
[UNKNOWN]: It was funny.
[UNKNOWN]: But no, that's kind of mind that and we've had a lot of great ones.
[UNKNOWN]: So Yeah, home don't don't feel bad.
[UNKNOWN]: We gave you shout outs.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Mine's probably.
[UNKNOWN]: That's fantastic.
[UNKNOWN]: Mine's probably up on Bigfoot and Bruce when we did that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, in general, just people opening up to you and telling you like, oh, they are so awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Experiences and stories, that's the most, my most favorite part with all this.
[UNKNOWN]: But I had one, we had one up, it's Lady up in Jill up in Michigan.
[UNKNOWN]: She was showing me, she's telling me stories that just were blown my mind.
[UNKNOWN]: And then she went and showed me like, she did like drawings and stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that she experienced.
[UNKNOWN]: And like her drawings were awesome showed me a bunch for cool art and photos and things like that, but that whole experience was just it was really it was really nice like yeah, it was cool.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was cool like thanks for me, but yeah, because I left Justin alone at the booth for a while, but he had company two hours two hours my buddy.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's a long time.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we can have Joel.
[UNKNOWN]: It was not.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you can say we looked for you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was not Maybe an hour kill them out towards podcasts was hanging out there with us.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was awesome Like it was a ball.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and in great conference, but
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, just those experiences, meaning people and, you know, just getting their personal stories that they're not going to tell anyone and they're not going to, we always ask them what you want to record it, we can record it and they're just like, no, no, no, no, I don't want to record it, but you want to talk about it.
[UNKNOWN]: And you can tell they're sincere and, you know, we can tell, you can tell when people are kind of talking their own stories up or elaborating a little too much or totally.
[UNKNOWN]: You just say a single name.
[UNKNOWN]: You just know when
[UNKNOWN]: You're horrible.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I'm being serious.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, not just even regular people that will come up and tell you stories of things that they've seen or experience and you're just like, okay, you can tell, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: There's just a different energy when you know someone's being sincere and honest.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: And when they're just kind of,
[UNKNOWN]: Stretching maybe they're they're true.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a little bit too much.
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's by the best nicest way to put it speaking to that nature Not the not the falsehoods the real genuine stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, if you don't mind I'll tell you one more story.
[UNKNOWN]: I Love it
[UNKNOWN]: our first conference we ever did was a how big foot.
[UNKNOWN]: We got set up in a premier spot due to just hanging out with Robert from you big apes.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a really great guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Love Robert.
[UNKNOWN]: Robert takes good care of Christmas the coin.
[UNKNOWN]: We actually called him cheap corn stock.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, nice.
[UNKNOWN]: He makes a lot of our stuff for us.
[UNKNOWN]: But he Robert put us in a really nice spot.
[UNKNOWN]: This guy, so right, we're right by the front door.
[UNKNOWN]: This guy that does not look like he
[UNKNOWN]: Pazes entry fee.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's just wearing kind of hunter clothes does he looks super uncomfortable.
[UNKNOWN]: Keep on how big foot this past year was like 11,000 people.
[UNKNOWN]: Really?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That was big.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, very packed.
[UNKNOWN]: We couldn't move for 10 hours.
[UNKNOWN]: We talked constant, but so this guy comes in right like right off the rip right when it opens.
[UNKNOWN]: He looks super uncomfortable.
[UNKNOWN]: He kind of sees us comes over to us.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's just kind of sort of asked a big foot.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like,
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I had an encounter.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, I was walking up a hill in Egypt Valley, Ohio.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you were hurt or anything of that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's one of the craziest places that like for weird stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Not just big foot, but weird paranormal stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Egypt Valley, Ohio is like super funky.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't go there just because it's more of the supernatural than the physical happens there.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'd say that more supernatural.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, so he's like, I was hunting in Egypt Valley and he's like, I kept I was on the ridge going up something kept running at me like a bull like it's sitting in it.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, something kept running at me.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, it sounds like a bull, but I never seen anything.
[UNKNOWN]: And it would stop like 10 feet away and then back up and then do it again.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, he's like, I just couldn't write my hair out because I never seen it.
[UNKNOWN]: There's nothing there, but I can feel it and I can hear it coming at me.
[UNKNOWN]: And then finally, went off over the other side of the ridge.
[UNKNOWN]: And it really, he was really shaken up and really freaked out about it.
[UNKNOWN]: And we just kind of like, well, that really sounds like an Ohio big foot bluff charge.
[UNKNOWN]: So, Hawking Hills, Ohio, which is about 60 miles south of there, maybe less than that, 40 miles south, is famous for those kind of encounters, where these really, really high intensity scary encounters with nothing really happens at the end, but they're terrifying encounters, you know, the tree shakings that Brox was in pasture head, the false charges, false yeah, bluff charges, the man.
[UNKNOWN]: So I tell it we tell him that and he's like so he's like it probably was a big foot and I like I don't know that, but that's what it kind of sounds like He's like is there any laws about shooting them and We're like I don't think there's any laws about it Okay, but I've heard a lot of people say they've shot him and not a lot's happened because I'm making a mad
[UNKNOWN]: All right, I'm going to go kill one, and then he just left, he left the whole conversation.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: And we never got a hold of us again, and now, but he just needed that little bit of somebody to tell him, no, you're not crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: This happens.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he calmed down.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to guess he calmed down when he got home, that's somebody, because that's all he wanted.
[UNKNOWN]: That's all he wanted that whole day with somebody to tell him, no, that happens to other people.
[UNKNOWN]: Like other people have experienced the same thing and I get that feeling because I didn't talk about my big foot encounter probably five years because we we didn't know the other people experience this stuff We're not known for big foot.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean we don't got anything we have corn.
[UNKNOWN]: So I feel like he was kind of in that same boat where he just wanted somebody to tell him No, you're not crazy
[UNKNOWN]: other people experience the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: And once he got that he left and he had paid his entry fee and he walked right back out the door.
[UNKNOWN]: We never seen him again.
[UNKNOWN]: So maybe we'll see in this year and may I hope you're still alive.
[UNKNOWN]: I was literally just thinking that I was like what if the plot twist is
[UNKNOWN]: He tried to go do it and it took him out, and that's why you've never heard.
[UNKNOWN]: Hopefully not.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, hopefully not.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see if he shows back to you.
[UNKNOWN]: You're in your stress.
[UNKNOWN]: You come in and see if that orange jacket.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a ghost.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, ghost.
[UNKNOWN]: Nice.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe it's, I believe it's your turn.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to read the question and then I'll do a shorter version of it to kind of clarify what I'm trying to get across because it's going to come across weird.
[UNKNOWN]: Is there a topic that you've covered on your podcast that has taken on a life, it's all of its own and has really affected your own life outside of the recording studio, i.e.
[UNKNOWN]: something like hellier.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got you go ahead.
[UNKNOWN]: You go first.
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to say to your, the, the, the, you want to touch that one?
[UNKNOWN]: The mushroom UFO go ahead.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just still my life, but is that what you were going to do?
[UNKNOWN]: No, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like the, the Fungi UFO, you know, oh gosh, that really did blow up.
[UNKNOWN]: Something like that, um, that's probably been like it.
[UNKNOWN]: That was Justin's mind creation, but I think he's really on to something there, but there may be some UFO like organisms, organisms living in the atmosphere that are, you know, Fungi or funguses.
[UNKNOWN]: But just to bring that into our own life, because we talk about it now, but now we're actually outside when our mushroom pops up.
[UNKNOWN]: We actually talk to them a little bit, because they might have some intelligence to them.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, you just, you just might, you know, throw out a conversation to them and
[UNKNOWN]: you never know if they're listening or not so we're just nice to them and I guess that's changed a little bit in my life like I said on our last show we were on I'm not going to run open feel go kick off mushroom anymore and just like launch it as far as I can but now we actually sit and we'll talk to one
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mow him over in my yard at all.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Emily was complaining because I had a big hand in the woods in the front yard this year in County mushrooms and I just would avoid them because the grass is all patchy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to say.
[UNKNOWN]: The Joel Thomas Nephilim Portal Babies thing that took us to places.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's how we met Tony Markle.
[UNKNOWN]: That's how we wow.
[UNKNOWN]: So Joel Thomas came on our show with the second.
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's the first time he came on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: he came on our show and he talked about the dog man documentary he did and was fine yeah yeah we did hour on it no problems yeah uh we did an hour no problems and then he started talking about that kind of thought I don't know have you heard any of that stuff with him the Nephilim stuff the Nephilim yeah his portal baby thoughts not not his I mean I've listened
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know anything about actually I haven't gone to that.
[UNKNOWN]: So yes, so it's a lot and it's just out of my wheelhouse not saying Joel's got it.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, like he's got a lot figured out that I don't understand because it's really not my thing.
[UNKNOWN]: So if that makes any sense to anybody at home, it's like when it's just not your subject he knows so much about that and it's just it's way out of my wheel.
[UNKNOWN]: So he starts talking about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Instantly we lose all power to our recording software.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, but here's the thing with our recording software.
[UNKNOWN]: We use a zoom pk4 with a battery pack So there you go, so if it becomes unplugged it still records for up to two hours.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it didn't come unplugged and I it wouldn't turn on
[UNKNOWN]: it's just completely shut off and it wasn't the outlet because the computer is plugged into the same outlet.
[UNKNOWN]: We can still see Joel.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I had to unplug it, plug it back in, turn back on, start it back up.
[UNKNOWN]: So we skipped over that subject and it was fine.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know this, but he was on Eric show uncomfortable the previous night and had similar popping, he had popping noises and he had similar power failing, what did they say like 16 times?
[UNKNOWN]: 10 or 10 plus times.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 10 plus times with
[UNKNOWN]: Streamyard wasn't it was it stream art is zoom.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't remember which one of us by either way It kept shutting down the kept saying server air it kept saying system man maintenance They were all in the phone with the company and they couldn't get it to work.
[UNKNOWN]: It was ridiculous and then He goes like a week later on to Tony's show and They completely fry oh gosh, I'm forgetting the name of it
[UNKNOWN]: the road, the roadcaster pro recording board.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.
[UNKNOWN]: $900 board.
[UNKNOWN]: It just dies.
[UNKNOWN]: Why are they start talking about it?
[UNKNOWN]: So we have a whole big like five hour episode on in our show.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's on Tony.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the same episode across all.
[UNKNOWN]: We did it.
[UNKNOWN]: We crossed.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's a great episode.
[UNKNOWN]: Dad, I, yeah, it's great.
[UNKNOWN]: So when we get down there, so we all go and hang out with Tony at his studio, we get we all I wanted to house that we all shared, you know uncomfortable Eric and Joel
[UNKNOWN]: And the power goes out, and it's just for houses around us and us, it's like, they're super weird.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just that, that topic took on a whole bit of life of its own.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the quietest episode I've ever been on for me because it's just like, I experienced all this and I'm like, I don't talk about, I don't know nothing about this stuff, speechless.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to talk about this stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just here because I was asked to be here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: it was it was crazy time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's wild.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, my version of that is it's just weird thing where like it was half affecting my life because in that it turned into a podcast episode, I was reading a book by David Weatherley about Iowa cryptids and there was a phrase about the Iowa
[UNKNOWN]: And then I was like, holy, macro, what is that I've never heard about this?
[UNKNOWN]: And then I just went, you know, that mean where it's like Charlie Day from, always setting a field of duties in front with the red lines.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I spent all of three months heads down trying to figure out like what that was back in the 70s.
[UNKNOWN]: And actually, hold on, give me a second.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, yeah, I can say track down like one of the dudes is still alive.
[UNKNOWN]: I track down where he is and like it turned into this wild and crazy adventure that is still going on to this day and like it is it's seriously like has affected my life and it's just like yeah that sometimes you just get
[UNKNOWN]: you just get wrapped into this like figure out the mystery, but you're like, how far do you let yourself go?
[UNKNOWN]: Because the line between podcasting in research or sometimes becomes blurred slash journalists and it's like, how far do you let yourself go before you start affecting it?
[UNKNOWN]: It's crazy dude, but yeah, it sometimes happens and actually that's the most fun.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I agree with that.
[UNKNOWN]: I get hyper excessive, obsessive.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah, oh my goodness, me too.
[UNKNOWN]: to a fault.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I'll go down to to the living room, talk to my wife and I'll just start unloading and she's like, do what are you doing up there?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you got pretty much.
[UNKNOWN]: The red string is everywhere connecting every dot to everything over the house now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So we use that same meme before, but we're actually turning the podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: So here's a little sneak peek for everybody.
[UNKNOWN]: The podcast studios ceiling will eventually be that meme.
[UNKNOWN]: That's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: And we've kind of we've talked about what's going to be up there and stuff like that all kinds of random stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: We just gotta start connecting it out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's gonna make no sense to anybody else.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, what?
[UNKNOWN]: There's gonna be a mushroom in a big foot in the elf's oven.
[UNKNOWN]: The government actually follows so far.
[UNKNOWN]: And it is now a guest or a salamander.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh gosh.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Am I final question for you?
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, you ready for this one?
[UNKNOWN]: I sure am.
[UNKNOWN]: What is one of your favorite encounters you've gotten?
[UNKNOWN]: Not just because of the encounter itself, but maybe something around the encounter, like a personal story, if somebody knew anything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I love off the topic questions because that's a really good question.
[UNKNOWN]: It's great for silence.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody loves audio silence.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but it's to be this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you love audio silence as a podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: I always sing to fill the gaps.
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like I just, yeah, home and I feel like I've never been alone.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I feel yeah, okay, I got I got good one.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't know any more lyrics after that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was like, he's going to run out.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I will say, uh, the closest I can get to an answer for you is just because I really like this story is encounter story, uh, because it came from a gentleman that you would not expect this to come to come from.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so this comes from Dr. Jeff Meldrum.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm.
[UNKNOWN]: And back in the day, I used to do.
[UNKNOWN]: big for society is totally evolving all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: So I used to do like split up the episodes and then I would do like a like after-show thing and stuff would get really wild and crazy in those after because I would just like throw out like crazy stuff to these like big foot researchers and um turns out and this is this is public it's it's on my YouTube channel it's a second part of
[UNKNOWN]: You know, throw in Dr. Malchum under the bus, but he literally shares a story about how he's at a cabin up in Wyoming, I believe, and he wakes up one night, and there is a giant owl creature standing next to his bed.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow, and I would have never thought that that story would have like.
[UNKNOWN]: I would have never bet that melt Dr. Melchrom would have a story like that, but I was like, what this is, this is nuts, this is absolutely crazy who million it was and I had never guessed him exactly exactly that's that's the most fun the most original that I've I've received I do man I get so many because I've started this thing now.
[UNKNOWN]: where on Sunday nights on YouTube I'll do this like live call and show.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'll just put a phone up right there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of like people say it's like old school art bell.
[UNKNOWN]: But like the stuff that people are calling in with is nuts.
[UNKNOWN]: But the most fun that just told you blew me away was definitely Dr. Meljo.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm talking about a giant owl man creature hacks to his bed.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a short, it's like 15 minutes, too.
[UNKNOWN]: And he talks about seeing a UFO when he was on a date as a teenager or college age.
[UNKNOWN]: Like really weird stuff, it's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: The only, that's mine.
[UNKNOWN]: My best experience with Dr. Maldrum was suggesting breakfast and he picked it.
[UNKNOWN]: at the Ohio, I told him to get the big football bagel.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the best bang for your buck and he did.
[UNKNOWN]: No, so I think the best person, I guess for that my way I phrased it, I'm going to steal this one because you stole mine last time.
[UNKNOWN]: is our buddy Greg.
[UNKNOWN]: So he was one of our earlier interviews.
[UNKNOWN]: He was our first in studio interview.
[UNKNOWN]: Because he lives three houses down.
[UNKNOWN]: He graduated with my dad.
[UNKNOWN]: He's been a family friend forever.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't know I had a big foot in counter, me and my dad had a big foot in counter.
[UNKNOWN]: And we didn't know he had one.
[UNKNOWN]: And literally through doing this show, he kind of just came up.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, I didn't know who you guys talked about this all the time.
[UNKNOWN]: And do you do this stuff?
[UNKNOWN]: And we're like, oh, yeah, he's like, well, I had an encounter.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, like, would you love to, would you like come on this show?
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, yeah, if, you know, just because it's you guys, you know, first, you know, personal, I hate when it does that, personal family friend.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, so he comes in.
[UNKNOWN]: And we go through his encounter as an amazing encounter.
[UNKNOWN]: Probably one of the close, like he was, he could have touched it.
[UNKNOWN]: He thought it was a cow.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the name of the episode.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it was a cow.
[UNKNOWN]: Because there was cows out that previous day in the same spot.
[UNKNOWN]: And so he's seen this big hairy creature in the ditch.
[UNKNOWN]: So he's slowing down to get out to help this get this cow back in.
[UNKNOWN]: And it stood up and there's a whole encounter there.
[UNKNOWN]: Turns out though, it was the same year I had my big foot encounter.
[UNKNOWN]: same summer about a quarter mile away.
[UNKNOWN]: So most likely, just from my guessing, it was probably the same individual.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the same size, same bulk.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to say it was probably the same individual because I don't think we have a whole lot of individuals in Northwest Ohio, specifically in Harden County, specifically quarter mile away.
[UNKNOWN]: The same, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: That's probably for that like just doing this show.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so weird because we've had people reach out like we just recorded an Australian one this morning So we've had people, you know reach out from Sweden australia UK.
[UNKNOWN]: It put it that one literally three houses that way Someone we both known for a long time forever and didn't know he had something You got one Jay.
[UNKNOWN]: I took that one
[UNKNOWN]: Um, probably it might not be necessarily the story itself, but how we got the story was our interview with Noah.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, oh yeah, just the way we're driving down in Lovelin, Ohio doing a frogman.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, nice.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, where we go to on location sites and we go.
[UNKNOWN]: We go.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I just have fun.
[UNKNOWN]: Reports and videos and at the sites where things actually happened.
[UNKNOWN]: And while doing that, we're driving around Lovelin and this guy just like pulls up a sight or car.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's just like big like eyes are big and he's like looking down point in at it And we're at a red light and he rolls down his window and he's like what do you even say?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna call.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, and we're like, oh, you want to use it.
[UNKNOWN]: You want a card and he's like, yeah We just got this brand new box of cards.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so first I hop out.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't mean to tell you're good.
[UNKNOWN]: You're good
[UNKNOWN]: So I hop out in traffic in level in Ohio and I hand him a card with the first card I hand him was the first one in the packs.
[UNKNOWN]: It was blank
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, so I had a hot back out flights of green.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'd said turn green at this time.
[UNKNOWN]: I handed him a real card and then like I don't even remember like it was like two weeks later Yeah, he finally got a hold of us.
[UNKNOWN]: He found a reachy man.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe a month even later as well But yeah, really fun and review.
[UNKNOWN]: He's really fun.
[UNKNOWN]: He's high energy.
[UNKNOWN]: He was a lot of it was a ball to have on the show very high energy and I don't think he's really great encounter
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, great encounter on not something he really wanted to publicly share too much because he was pretty hesitant about doing it.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, he definitely didn't want to connect it kind of back to him.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's uh, uh, he's a, a business man.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, yeah, yeah, I think I can say that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's a prominent figure.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, great energy and great interview.
[UNKNOWN]: That was really fun.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just the way it happened.
[UNKNOWN]: The way it happened was funny.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just really funny.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like what just happened?
[UNKNOWN]: It's like a three-stue just get.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, basically.
[UNKNOWN]: That's amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: And it led to a great interview.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we went and stood in the Ohio or the little Miami River for an hour.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, talking frog man picking up muscles.
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the kind of memories that will like you'll remember at the end.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: that's so good.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think the final ball is in your court.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, all right, here we go.
[UNKNOWN]: So what do you think the closest you've ever come to a crypt it is and you can you can spend that however you want.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, you go first.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, yeah, because we know yours pretty much.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would think so.
[UNKNOWN]: Mine's probably we found out on the show
[UNKNOWN]: That was a weird, no way.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and tell your story because it's so all the thing is weird.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so I was looking for my dog.
[UNKNOWN]: My dog had run off property and I think he was chasing a deer something But I had a big white child and so I'm driving around the country and where we live.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like a country block, you know, it's a mile each way.
[UNKNOWN]: Big squares plotted out and several miles.
[UNKNOWN]: There's, you know, he turned right or left or straight.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just big grid pattern.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just seeing if I can find them and about just a mile and a half around the corner from my house, I'm driving down the stretcher road and probably a good half mile in front of me.
[UNKNOWN]: I see this big white thing run across the road and my first reaction, oh, there's my dog.
[UNKNOWN]: And then as it's run across, I'm realizing, okay, that's really big to be my dog.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not my dog, but it was big, it's about the size of a deer, I would say.
[UNKNOWN]: But it was, it was white, um, big long tail.
[UNKNOWN]: And then as I got closer, I saw I saw I drive and faster to pull up the sea because I at first still think it's kind of my dog and I pulled up, drive all the way up there and I looked and it came out of like a section of where there's just a little patch of woods and there's a creek back there but then it crossed over the road to where it's just an empty farm field for about I don't know, good mile on those miles.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just empty farm field.
[UNKNOWN]: So I thought there I'm going to see him running through that field my dog.
[UNKNOWN]: So I drove up and I looked over there was nothing in the field at all.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I thought that was just kind of weird, but I didn't think much about it.
[UNKNOWN]: So I kept circling around the block and went back home and then my dog had ended up coming back home.
[UNKNOWN]: So my dog was already back home by the time I so the thing that I seen running was running the opposite way from my house so there's no way it was my dog and then so I was thought that was just weird I didn't really think much about it and that was just kind of the end of it but then I was
[UNKNOWN]: it was probably like four years later what should be this past summer this past summer is when I made the realization I saw something weird because uh... just in I'm in no part of this conversation at this point yeah I don't know what he's seen
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know what this other person needs about to talk about.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I can't say who it was.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay, so I have no protection on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so I'm just in parents actually just bought a house right around the corner for my house, which is right around the area where I saw this thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Literally the little, little creek that he's talking about is on their property.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, it's in their backyard now.
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: I was over at their house and they were just having a fire.
[UNKNOWN]: I stopped off to see the great William.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what it was.
[UNKNOWN]: It was brilliant.
[UNKNOWN]: It was his birthday.
[UNKNOWN]: So I stopped there as parents house just to hang out for a little bit and we were talking and then I told him how I seen like this weird thing run across the road back in the day about four years before and then his dad's like, huh.
[UNKNOWN]: I've seen kind of that very same similar thing around the same time with your brother run across the road in a roughly the same area like the same half mile stretcher road where they live now and so I'm like, huh?
[UNKNOWN]: So we both kind of saw the same thing and realized it was strange and so then and then as we're telling so we told that story to uh at the people at the bowling alley where I work and we used to hold our big foot society meetings um there was a guy there that saw he described it as a white
[UNKNOWN]: on the same spot of different times.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the same with Jason, it's the same sort of road.
[UNKNOWN]: He means like within the same three foot area.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like in the same door, that's the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So she's seen a white fox is what he described running across the road.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's just,
[UNKNOWN]: We're coincidence maybe, but I think we all definitely saw something.
[UNKNOWN]: I know what I saw wasn't my dog one It was about the size of the deer, but it was like the details when I tried to remember it.
[UNKNOWN]: It was it was hard to remember I just remember having long legs and long tail.
[UNKNOWN]: So do you ever have you done any weight thing research?
[UNKNOWN]: When I think of that, I think of the alibi, I'm a white thing.
[UNKNOWN]: So you're thinking, yeah, that's a little different.
[UNKNOWN]: All you different, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So the Appalachian Northern Appalachian in this side of Ohio, the kind of white thing we get described is, is this kind of blur, sometimes a size of a polar bear.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's, it's, it's white fur.
[UNKNOWN]: It's really furry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but it's almost indescribable.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of people have problems describing it.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know they had these encounters, and we were literally getting ready to do this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but literally it's especially like West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Ohio, the white thing that's seen here is some people describe it like a polar bear state blob that moves really quick and you can people have trouble like I don't know how many legs it had I don't know if it had a head I just know it was big it was pure white and it was furry and a lot of times it disappears like it's looping
[UNKNOWN]: So, Jay didn't know any of that, right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I had no idea.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't even know there was a thing.
[UNKNOWN]: And then he pulled open his butt.
[UNKNOWN]: I told him then once I had that encounter or I had that talk with his dad and I wasn't there for this.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he wasn't even there.
[UNKNOWN]: We went back and I told him about it and like your dad, you know about this and your dad and he's, I think you knew already about your dad.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, he thought it was a dog.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't talk anything.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he didn't tell me, like he's a big white dog ran across a road.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, when he told you he gave you more details.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, definitely.
[UNKNOWN]: And it just connected dots with it lined up exactly with what I saw.
[UNKNOWN]: But then he just impulsed out this book.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you're just right there.
[UNKNOWN]: I got booked.
[UNKNOWN]: It's talk the light thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Talked all about it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, wow.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe I actually saw something and didn't even realize it.
[UNKNOWN]: And And you were abducted.
[UNKNOWN]: You think I was abducted.
[UNKNOWN]: Justin that's pretty well.
[UNKNOWN]: He thinks I was abducted.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm still on the fence.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't believe it.
[UNKNOWN]: He was a hundred percent abducted.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think so.
[UNKNOWN]: So they only I'll share that and believe that he was abducted.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll share that story.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's right.
[UNKNOWN]: I was when I was a little kid.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd always stay at my grandparents house and the one night.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'll tell the short version.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I fell asleep in their bedroom, which was normal and always watch movies and stuff and sleep there.
[UNKNOWN]: And then when I woke up the next morning, I was woke up in the guest bedroom across the hallway But I was completely tucked in to the bed, like the bed was already made, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, to come for everything cheats tucked in under the mattress.
[UNKNOWN]: Couldn't move.
[UNKNOWN]: But I was tucked in so tight, like I couldn't move all the way up to my neck.
[UNKNOWN]: Just like the bed had been made and I had been placed in there.
[UNKNOWN]: And I thought that was weird because when I woke up, I couldn't.
[UNKNOWN]: Move and I'm like struggling to just add a wiggle around just to get my arms free so I could push the covers off me But I started to push him off to untuck the bed to get myself actually out and then I was I didn't have any of my clothes on They were all on the floor right beside me and I thought that was really weird completely naked But I didn't that's but in my head I used to have a lot of sleep walking spells at that age
[UNKNOWN]: Um, there were stories where I would just get up out of the house even at their house.
[UNKNOWN]: I would get up and just walk outside out the door and just go and just start walking.
[UNKNOWN]: And I had to sleep walking story where I slept walking a movie theater during a movie.
[UNKNOWN]: It just, it was all around that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a pretty funny one.
[UNKNOWN]: My brothers told me that one.
[UNKNOWN]: And then Jay woke the day that Jay was tucking the bed.
[UNKNOWN]: There was an owl outside the window.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not true.
[UNKNOWN]: That's your embellish.
[UNKNOWN]: They're adding that.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: But so like I didn't think I thought my slept walk and they grabbed me and threw me in the beds so I wouldn't sleep walk and they tucked me in so I couldn't move.
[UNKNOWN]: That was my rational thought.
[UNKNOWN]: They tucked him in naked.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was the weird part which you know, so the weird how this story came to be how I pulled this out of Jay is we were telling the willier duofo's story It's a famous kind of kind of famous kind of that Ohio UFO abduction that involves literally two kids And the only reason the one kid that gets abducted has a story is because his brother would wake up and see what was happening And as we start telling the story which is like
[UNKNOWN]: What happened to me?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like huh, I tell another piece and you're like What happened to me?
[UNKNOWN]: I actually bark all the time
[UNKNOWN]: Huh, and then we can't it happens like six or seven times and There's finally it's like there's a clip we have saved these.
[UNKNOWN]: There's like Jay you're abducted But yeah, I like Literally we're going worst taking step-by-step with this kids of duck-shin Jay's like hmm happened to me and he's not saying nothing else.
[UNKNOWN]: He's just thinking hmm That's not that he's like that's not that odd.
[UNKNOWN]: I happened to me.
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm
[UNKNOWN]: Happened to me.
[UNKNOWN]: I used to sleep walk-out across the country.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't sleep walk anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, it's cuz they're done with you They took all your hair.
[UNKNOWN]: They did look.
[UNKNOWN]: It's gone.
[UNKNOWN]: It happens.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, not all of it Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's the fake.
[UNKNOWN]: I always yeah I always say it's gravity gravity took a hold.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't believe in the table.
[UNKNOWN]: I know I ain't that funny I don't I don't believe in gravity, but that may head to the bottom I think the closest I've ever been to a cryptid
[UNKNOWN]: At least in the conventional sense of the word is the big foot can I had I'd probably 30 feet away from a big foot That's a whole big story while to get in that a whole another time But I've I've shared it a whole bunch, but basically me and my brother were Within 30 feet a one Unconventional kind of crap that kind of not I was touched by a shadow person
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was freakin' suck.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no.
[UNKNOWN]: That was suck.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, horrible.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so that's probably the closest I've been to anything.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm good.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need anything else.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would say that's, that's why you're good for life.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll share mine real quick.
[UNKNOWN]: So this, this August, I think was, well, last summer I went on my first big foot expedition with my buddy, T. Haran Miss.
[UNKNOWN]: And this story is recounted, and he has a documentary series on YouTube.
[UNKNOWN]: If you search for a search for Sabe, SABE, there's an Iowa episode.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I'm about to talk about.
[UNKNOWN]: So we go to this place in Iowa camp out for the weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: The second day we're there, it's getting, you know, starting to get darker,
[UNKNOWN]: Um, tates doing things like woodknock, uh, we're getting, uh, we're getting stuff, uh, big tree pushed over in front of us.
[UNKNOWN]: We're getting, um, woodknock to the side, all sorts of weird stuff, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It was, it was to the point where it's like we didn't even have to leave the camp and walk around because like stuff was happening to our camp, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but the crazy thing, the weird thing that happened is so that last night, that's
[UNKNOWN]: audio recorder going all night long seven seven hours right because he's like something's going to happen and I want to get on to so the next few weeks I'm listening through that all that audio because that takes a long time to do found out at 345 a.m.
[UNKNOWN]: I hear sorry to to preface tape is in his truck sleeping at night
[UNKNOWN]: all along.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, 345 AM after some more Woodknocks, you hear the distinct sound of a tent being unsipped.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't get up at all during that night.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember unsipping my tent.
[UNKNOWN]: That almost made me go insane.
[UNKNOWN]: because I was like, what happened?
[UNKNOWN]: Was someone trying to, was there something like a bit, I was like, big foot, they don't unzip tents?
[UNKNOWN]: That's not, that's not, within the next two months, I, during different interviews, talk to two different people that had encounters where they'd got a one of big foot messing with a fellow lady researcher outside of her tent, messing with the zipper.
[UNKNOWN]: that was creepy.
[UNKNOWN]: Also another guy Randy who got a big foot messing with a zipper on tape in their cap.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like now I'm like holy macro.
[UNKNOWN]: What almost happened?
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: It waked me out for a long time.
[UNKNOWN]: Guys, that's a close story.
[UNKNOWN]: I can think of two stories that people
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, I think one is on the west of show.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't pull out what number it is.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, there's only like 800, but it was one of the ones that really freaked me out is that he woke up.
[UNKNOWN]: I was him and his dad in the tent.
[UNKNOWN]: They woke up to the sound of the zipper coming out.
[UNKNOWN]: And the dad kind of starts waking up, looking at his kid.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not a young kid.
[UNKNOWN]: He's, yeah, I don't know, 17 or something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, they both kind of wake up and they're looking at each other.
[UNKNOWN]: They're in a small tent and it goes
[UNKNOWN]: It's gained out of that stupid thing and it gets immediately that go off because the dad starts screaming.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what would have happened if dad wasn't awake also at the same time.
[UNKNOWN]: And then there was another one I can't remember, it was on one of the big shows.
[UNKNOWN]: It was either, you know, Derek, Shannon's, I can't remember.
[UNKNOWN]: And it unzipped and was reaching and they screamed and pulled back out.
[UNKNOWN]: That's freaky.
[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't be noticed and I can't camp all I didn't I can't camp all the time If I have it to me, I would not do it anymore No, oh my goodness.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow dude.
[UNKNOWN]: That's wild That's a whole story.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean you just think about their intelligent enough to know like this is what I got a grab and open up Just to get in here.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean like
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and then they you know they can just use brute force if they wanted it they could just grab the whole tent and go with you in it But they're curious and they I don't know they pop it open.
[UNKNOWN]: It's that's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: It's sneaky.
[UNKNOWN]: It's great.
[UNKNOWN]: Like yeah, it's being discreet and that's like what Jason is that's what's really scary.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that they know it is Did you have anything missing?
[UNKNOWN]: That's a really good question actually
[UNKNOWN]: when I would I did not notice anything missing when I packed up, but that's that's a really good question.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, nothing missing.
[UNKNOWN]: And nothing, nothing added to the camp either.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Who's the one?
[UNKNOWN]: I can't think of what I don't know if it was less stroud that they would keep stealing stuff out of their backpack.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, and like, but they would like, it would be like stuff that were buried in the middle of the backpack.
[UNKNOWN]: So they'd unzip the backpack, take stuff out, take what they wanted, put the stuff back in and zip it back up.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, well, I, was it, I don't remember, I know what you're talking about, but I don't remember.
[UNKNOWN]: Can't remember, is that less, I think it might be a part of what less is stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Could have been, yeah, let's stroud and his, his, his really unique encounters.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, yeah, no thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: And that was in Iowa, you said?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's at a location and, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: I just have to say location.
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's fine.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: I Indies to respect.
[UNKNOWN]: It's the exact dates research.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not now.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'll ask this and you can answer.
[UNKNOWN]: However you want.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Was it near an area that is camped regularly?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So the basically what I'm getting at is I wonder if this is a behavior where they know they can get goodies.
[UNKNOWN]: Out of tents.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so yeah, you'll get you'll be there in it.
[UNKNOWN]: You'll be there.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, where the quiet zip.
[UNKNOWN]: Grab the box of Twinkies.
[UNKNOWN]: Sit back up.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh gosh, that makes me think of the horrible raccoons at a cow and like, oh god, I don't want to hit with the axe.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, oh yeah, I'm a cow man.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you don't know what happened to me.
[UNKNOWN]: We had like 50 raccoons like inside the flaps in our tent.
[UNKNOWN]: Why we're in it me and my wife.
[UNKNOWN]: We've been married like two months and the raccoons are like trying to get in we have a little heat vent and you can see their faces like looking in and stuff like that and they just all night
[UNKNOWN]: like these are cycle raccoons so this camp had had a they're all dead now from the camp taking care of them okay I don't know sorry I'm bad with tangents but we're sitting around the campfire with Emily's parents and they're stupid dog and I'm only calling Charlotte stupid because we're sitting so Charlotte has a chair this lab has like a like a dog lawn chair she's sitting beside me and then
[UNKNOWN]: Well Emily starts like playing with the back of my leg with her foot and I'm like stop, you know, you're parents or you're whatever and she doesn't stop and I I physically I tell her like okay, I'm we stop she's like what like stop touching my leg and she's like I'm not touching your leg.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no.
[UNKNOWN]: I look down.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a little black hand petting me.
[UNKNOWN]: And I stand up and he's like a huge, huge fat raccoon.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man.
[UNKNOWN]: I turn around and there's like 50 of them.
[UNKNOWN]: They're raiding our camp behind us quietly.
[UNKNOWN]: And this stupid one is amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: It's petting me.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just trying to keep you alive too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, keep you calm.
[UNKNOWN]: Baby, yeah, just go to sleep.
[UNKNOWN]: Just go sit and I hit one with an axe.
[UNKNOWN]: because it was like three, it was four days of hell.
[UNKNOWN]: And I went over the next.
[UNKNOWN]: They went down like, they were like.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like last stand-in zombie movie type materials.
[UNKNOWN]: They were like, they've come right up to you.
[UNKNOWN]: They touched, like obviously it was touching me.
[UNKNOWN]: But like even when you see them, they were so not scared of you that they walk right at you.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is right by Cincinnati.
[UNKNOWN]: So a lot of these people are city people who go camping there.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm trying to know if that's a high, we ain't city people.
[UNKNOWN]: I've killed a lot of my food in my life for a trap and stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I ain't scared of you.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, but that's what they like they puff up and it's like little four or five pound I couldn't say puff up and they like hiss and jump out yet and they I guarantee they were used to all these city people just taking off, you know the first 90 teeth I'm like I have steel tow boots.
[UNKNOWN]: I will kill every one of you Like your six pounds punt I did kick one because it tried to bite me
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, this rabies dude.
[UNKNOWN]: You don't want rabies right now.
[UNKNOWN]: They were they were awful and I think Cowen Lake and kill them like three or four hundred of them that year at the camp.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, good Lord.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, wow.
[UNKNOWN]: They can be a new sense like bad.
[UNKNOWN]: It's because they've everybody kept feeding them.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, that's why they were so brazen.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Like we have we have tons of tons of raccoons up here in order to.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, but they do not they do not let you see them.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, they're pretty secretive because they know they'll die, that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: But they'll poop all over everything, but they won't let you see.
[UNKNOWN]: Gosh.
[UNKNOWN]: In just a clarify, I never had a raccoon with an axe.
[UNKNOWN]: Hint, hint, hint, hint, hint, hint, hint, hint.
[UNKNOWN]: Whoa, is that a raccoon you're room right now?
[UNKNOWN]: That is a dog pooping.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, that's a dog poop, thank goodness.
[UNKNOWN]: very slowly just poop on the floor.
[UNKNOWN]: This she.
[UNKNOWN]: I came to stock the stock is 18 years old and came with the house.
[UNKNOWN]: What other podcast crossover episode are you going to get a dog pooping in the room on camera.
[UNKNOWN]: This is amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: That's staying in the episode for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it is.
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: 100%.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I want to say thank you for doing this with us.
[UNKNOWN]: It's been a lot of fun.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah,
[UNKNOWN]: So, why don't you start, you promote all your stuff, and then we'll go.
[UNKNOWN]: Awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: So, guys, if you've had, if you've had fun listening to this, and you're not already checking out Bigfoot Society, check out Bigfoot Society, check us out at Apple Podcasts, Spotify, subscribe.
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[UNKNOWN]: I do stuff on Instagram, TikTok.
[UNKNOWN]: I said during the podcast earlier, if you like, old school art bell, I do a live call-in show on Sunday night, 730 to 830.
[UNKNOWN]: Central Standard Time, you can call in.
[UNKNOWN]: You can see it live on YouTube.
[UNKNOWN]: And I want people to call in and share your story.
[UNKNOWN]: You're weird and counterstore.
[UNKNOWN]: I've got people calling in.
[UNKNOWN]: They've never shared their story before.
[UNKNOWN]: That's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: But if you like interviews that have to do with cryptids, weird stuff, I'm going to start interviewing people about not just cryptids, but also things like giants, different subjects like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to start getting out into the world of the weird.
[UNKNOWN]: Bigfoot society is going to change a little bit, mid tocember, and you're going to love it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: And for all your listeners, like you said, you can find us in all the Spotify Apple, you know, pretty much all the podcast platforms were on.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think we missed any.
[UNKNOWN]: We have Facebook.
[UNKNOWN]: We do a live coffee and cryptid show or cryptid's and coffee.
[UNKNOWN]: It's sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: It's very late here.
[UNKNOWN]: We do all I've every Tuesday at 9 a.m. and less otherwise posted.
[UNKNOWN]: We do some evening ones too.
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[UNKNOWN]: We do have YouTube and we're starting to do some exclusive YouTube stuff.
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[UNKNOWN]: I built a website.
[UNKNOWN]: Jay likes pushing it more than I do.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, we do have a website.
[UNKNOWN]: I think so we have all the stuff and things.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Eastern standard 8.
[UNKNOWN]: Would you say 7th?
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, you're right.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I'm getting really tired and it's starting not to make sense anymore.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, I remember I message you about that because I mean Emily was sitting in bed and she's like, what are you watching?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm watching for the side staff and I'm like, I keep commenting but nobody's, nobody's saying anything.
[UNKNOWN]: Facebook sucks with the whole stream yard.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Hello, hello and welcome back to groups of Guarby guests.
[UNKNOWN]: I am the great and powerful mystery, and I'm Jay clone 604 bomb bomb bomb and you guys have been asking us like hundreds of emails about the big foot flap in eastern Ohio
[UNKNOWN]: And as Ohio boys, you know, we're on the other side of Ohio, so it's still like three and a half hours for us.
[UNKNOWN]: Ohio's there's a big square, but we thought instead of us trying to research and break it down for you, we were just going to bring on the main guy for the whole flaps.
[UNKNOWN]: Go to the source.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So Jay, why don't you introduce our amazing guest.
[UNKNOWN]: Alrighty, well, if anyone is familiar with the flap, I suppose you are if you're listening to this podcast because you're in the big foot and it was everywhere, at least last week it was everywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: We've seen it everywhere.
[UNKNOWN]: We are joined today by the Bigfoot Society podcast host Jeremiah Byron.
[UNKNOWN]: Welcome Jeremiah.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, how's it going?
[UNKNOWN]: It's going good.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'd like to also, everyone, please go to, if you want to look up the full notes of the flap, go to Bigfoot SocietyPodcast.com, and you can see the full right up of the flaps.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, I guess, experiences all jotted down in a nice timeline fashion.
[UNKNOWN]: You can see everything there on Bigfoot SocietyPodcast.com and check out the Bigfoot SocietyPodcast, please.
[UNKNOWN]: Bye, you're there by a t-shirt, join us Patreon.
[UNKNOWN]: Do it all.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, thanks guys.
[UNKNOWN]: All the things really nice to you.
[UNKNOWN]: No, we've been friends for a long time.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we don't get to talk nearly as much because you're probably nine hours from us.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I would guess.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because I'm out in Central Iowa.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's, oh, maybe drive.
[UNKNOWN]: No doubt.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a rough drive.
[UNKNOWN]: And Iowa guy knows a lot more about eastern Ohio than the southern, are they, Western Ohio people.
[UNKNOWN]: What's true.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, it's true.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, but it's a whole different state when you get over there.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, well, be, but it is nice seeing somebody we know that is able to, uh, I guess that take it people are willing to send the reports in, then you're willing to publish them.
[UNKNOWN]: Whereas as in, you already know in this field where a lot of reports are just never ever get reported to see the light today.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: They get
[UNKNOWN]: locked away in some weird sighting prison and well we'll leave that there.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not worried about you.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm worried about him.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying no names.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying like, I mean, even pointing to anyone out in particular, I just know there's a lot of people have this threat.
[UNKNOWN]: People have enough experiences on their own where they don't share it at all.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We've let alone report it to somebody, but it's nice.
[UNKNOWN]: having an outlet that receives reports that we can just go up and talk to or that's willing to just share it.
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's refreshing to me.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: And I want to definitely make sure that credit is where credit is due for this because if it hadn't been for the big foot mapping project, this would not have all started because that's where the original report was posted.
[UNKNOWN]: everybody download the big foot mapping project app.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's only a few bucks couple bucks.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and it's a one time purchase.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, as far as I understand now.
[UNKNOWN]: I've never been charged again for it.
[UNKNOWN]: Mr. Jake Dressel's always talk telling me about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Jake is the biggest promoter for that.
[UNKNOWN]: He is like a good dude.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, give me your phone.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, let me download that one for you.
[UNKNOWN]: Give you a couple bucks here.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll buy it too.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, buy it for you.
[UNKNOWN]: He swiped his card on me and I was like, whoa, buddy.
[UNKNOWN]: Whoa, it's already, it's for we draw the line downloaded it six times.
[UNKNOWN]: Give me your hat now But anyways, but I shared a little story with Jeremiah before we got rock and rolling and I'll share it again We like I said earlier.
[UNKNOWN]: We got a lot of emails about this head.
[UNKNOWN]: It's it's just so much easier having you on because like you know You're the forefront of it and when this was starting to pop off, you know for everybody
[UNKNOWN]: I just, we were, I can't remember.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the local Fox affiliate.
[UNKNOWN]: So, probably Lyma.
[UNKNOWN]: And there you are.
[UNKNOWN]: You're on TV.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, I know that guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it's crazy to have a big foot podcaster coming on.
[UNKNOWN]: And what we found out was national, you know, from you telling us, you know, you did the interview with the Fox affiliate Cleveland, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So on the on the ninth.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was the ninth.
[UNKNOWN]: I started doing all these Cleveland interviews and then those start getting pushing pushed out to their networks and then.
[UNKNOWN]: Man, then it starts showing up on New York Post and Steven Colbert made a reference to it and Rogan was talking about in thank goodness you didn't say my name at the podcast and because I went to being able to like I can't imagine how much crazier that would have been.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, I mean, there was even, I did interview with the New York Times, and I don't know if that's going to be published, but I did talk to a reporter from the Times, which was wild, that's wild experience.
[UNKNOWN]: That is, I mean, an amazing, but insane as far as, you know, bigfoot-cripted podcaster, if that.
[UNKNOWN]: Now you're, you know, talking to the New York Post and Fox and you're on Joe, like, well, you know, your stuff's being talked about on Joe, where I'll get and all right, it's that's crazy that it's been this mail stream for you and I'm very, I'm very happy it was you and you deserve it and you don't have to tell numbers, but did you see a bump.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I do want a preface that for your listeners because I'm sure a few of them are like, oh, this guy really was working the system.
[UNKNOWN]: That guys, it was not like that.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to go into the story later.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm going to just tell you all how it went down and how this is just what I've been doing for years and the algorithm went buckaroo bonsai.
[UNKNOWN]: And so here's an example.
[UNKNOWN]: on the 10th got 1.8 million page views and I saw that and I was like, that cannot, that's not real.
[UNKNOWN]: That's real.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's real.
[UNKNOWN]: Those are real numbers.
[UNKNOWN]: Like it was like internet.
[UNKNOWN]: It got to India in the UK.
[UNKNOWN]: Like it was international.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: That's amazing, that's just, it's awesome though, but I mean, I think it's just a testament to being consistent and I know putting your all your effort into it.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's what just happens naturally.
[UNKNOWN]: It will explode eventually, like it just will.
[UNKNOWN]: I think well deserved.
[UNKNOWN]: Like you said, you've been doing this a long time.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, a long time, so it's, it's not like you're just, you're cloud chasing or anything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: No, definitely.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I've heard the words that you, February, you have 2019.
[UNKNOWN]: So pre-pandemic.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's hard work that you put forward.
[UNKNOWN]: And like you said, you caught the algorithm, and then, yeah, they get shared here, and they get shared there, and it's an India.
[UNKNOWN]: And I wanted to say too, because we mentioned this on our show the other day.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we did give you another big shout out the week before that.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, people were asking us that shout out from you guys, probably was just like,
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I got you that little bump, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That million dollar, our million dollar, million view per day, whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't indefinitely.
[UNKNOWN]: But people have been at, you know, they ever since you were all your reports start coming out, you know, they were asking us, sharing it on our page asking us our opinion.
[UNKNOWN]: What not, you know, is this real?
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what's going on?
[UNKNOWN]: And then that's when I when I first seen it I seen you're in the pot your podcast attached a big foot society podcast like the orange symbol I'm like I know who that is clicked on the video and for sure enough it was you you were the one sharing it wasn't somebody I got sharing your reports you're the guy you're doing it so I'm like okay, I know who this is like well, let's look at see it as notes
[UNKNOWN]: and what I guess conclusion I pulled from it was just this is just big foot sightings this is just what happens when people see them you just happen to be the guy that people feel comfortable and trusting to report their sightings too and then you're publishing it I think I think it's I don't think it's anything out of
[UNKNOWN]: like out of the ordinary are crazy big foot behavior to say the least I think it's just finally being reported and then the mainstream actually took notice of it for once.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would agree and also a big part of it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's so many things together.
[UNKNOWN]: It is it's one that TikTok algorithm and then the entire social media culture we live in plus the news picking it up.
[UNKNOWN]: But the main thing that people are
[UNKNOWN]: It is, I mean, it's really like a flap of sightings in a way that hasn't been seen since, like, the, let's say, for example, the,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, 1978, when you had all of that, things going really across the nation and I mean even in Ohio and Northeast Ohio, you had quite a bit of activity in that year.
[UNKNOWN]: And so there's a few other things we'll probably talk about theories later on and my, the research I'm working with Glenn Adkins has probably the best theory of why why this happened to and it just blew my mind when I heard it.
[UNKNOWN]: who will stay tuned was going to start I guess telling us about yeah told us that it's going to come in for you and everything uh... let's uh... let's get into it so here we go so
[UNKNOWN]: It's important to point out that I, so when I make social media posts for Bigfoot Society, I will usually look through online Bigfoot Siding data bases, woo, that was where databases outside of what I get.
[UNKNOWN]: And sometimes I love the Bigfoot Mapping Project.
[UNKNOWN]: The BFRO is another good one, the NAWAC website is good.
[UNKNOWN]: So I just happened to see one that was super recent on the Bigfoot Mapping Project.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was Manway Center, Ohio.
[UNKNOWN]: And there was an individual that had a sighting on the 6th.
[UNKNOWN]: And the info from that report was that this individual was hiking in this area, saw a large bipedal cryptid or a big photo which nine foot tall, brown, standing around 120 yards from him and started moving the way fast.
[UNKNOWN]: So there's that.
[UNKNOWN]: So I was like, OK, so let's usually I'll make a video.
[UNKNOWN]: And then it's like maybe a few people comment.
[UNKNOWN]: life is usual, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And so the next day I got a someone hit me up on TikTok and was like, you know, it's weird.
[UNKNOWN]: On the seventh, you know, same area, we had a sighting too.
[UNKNOWN]: And so, I was like, okay, this is weird.
[UNKNOWN]: So the seventh, same area, this individual,
[UNKNOWN]: uh, was out, uh, walking around, uh, believe with his buddies, they were walking a trail near the edge of the woods.
[UNKNOWN]: They hear heavy footsteps deeper in the trees.
[UNKNOWN]: They're like, is it a deer?
[UNKNOWN]: The steps were slow spaced out and much heavier.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're like, it's got to be something.
[UNKNOWN]: Then they know it's movement about 50 yards away.
[UNKNOWN]: Something tall step between two trees, seven to eight feet tall, covering in dark brown here, uh, and then they hear a dark grunt before it steps back into the trees.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So I make a video about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, you know, my thing is, you know, I'm collecting the reports and then sometimes I make videos about them, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So so there's that that's not really too weird yet, but it was the next day, the ninth where things got weird.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, I'm doing my podcast work.
[UNKNOWN]: I check the big foot mapping project.
[UNKNOWN]: I notice, oh, there's a there's a new sighting in Garrett's film, which is a few miles east of Manoay Center.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's 1020.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is just happened recently.
[UNKNOWN]: And I look at it.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, that's weird.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Someone was walking through the woods.
[UNKNOWN]: They saw what they say was an eight foot tall black Sasquatch looking creature.
[UNKNOWN]: They got scared.
[UNKNOWN]: So as I could kick, let's get the news out about this.
[UNKNOWN]: And then that's when stuff started to get pretty intense.
[UNKNOWN]: An hour, so actually 1247 midday, an individual reached out, who's like, hey, I was just outside 1147 AM.
[UNKNOWN]: Me and my buddy, this is an anonymous guy.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, I got to be anonymous.
[UNKNOWN]: In Garrett's field we had a sighting of something that and at this point I'm like okay this is not normal.
[UNKNOWN]: I've never had this happen in seven years like something is starting to happen So I was like can I have your phone number so I can call you to talk to you.
[UNKNOWN]: So I get the guy on the phone He's like I got to be anonymous.
[UNKNOWN]: He's emotional.
[UNKNOWN]: He's he's wound up.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like yeah We were on this trail head waters trail around Garrett's field
[UNKNOWN]: And so he tells about how, for 10 to 15 seconds, they had an encounter, they saw what was they said was a 10 foot tall black hair creature and so I was able to ask him because I had him on the phone.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, hey, did you notice anything weird when you're you're looking at this thing.
[UNKNOWN]: And so he's like, well, it grunted at us, but when it grunted at us, it turned its head towards us and it didn't.
[UNKNOWN]: It was weird because it didn't move its neck like it had to move like the shoulders too and I was like okay and and I was like all right here we go and I was like was there anything else weird like about the way it was moving anything that you notice and he's like well it looked like it was almost on stills which is really weird the way and he was like so it's moving around so there's that now we're still on the ninth.
[UNKNOWN]: Putting the news out.
[UNKNOWN]: And then now I'm starting to get things in my email, because at this point, like I'm trying to keep things organized by making maps, and you can see the final map that's public on bigphascietypodcast.com.
[UNKNOWN]: So I have the map out there with my email on it, like contact me, the algorithms starting to kick in.
[UNKNOWN]: And then, um, so this individual reaches out, this is an hour.
[UNKNOWN]: So it happened at 6 p.m. An hour later, they reached out to me on the ninth.
[UNKNOWN]: And so this female individual, but in her mother, mother was in her house in Windham.
[UNKNOWN]: was looking outside the window as she usually does, and she sees what she reports as a six foot tall brown creature walk out of the wood line.
[UNKNOWN]: Her neighbors would line and then walk across and go back into the woods.
[UNKNOWN]: The funny thing is that she's a skeptic.
[UNKNOWN]: She doesn't believe in big foot.
[UNKNOWN]: And then she's like, I know what I saw, but I don't know what I saw.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it's it's messing with her head, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And so the day before, I'll put this footnote in real quick because it's important.
[UNKNOWN]: A gentleman named Glenn Adkins, who's a local researcher, reached out to me and just sent a simple email and he's like, hey, I'm Glenn Adkins.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm a local Bigfoot researcher if you need help.
[UNKNOWN]: Just just talked to me and so I contacted him immediately because I recognized the name and I was like,
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I got to have, at this point, I got to have people start to check it out, see what's going on.
[UNKNOWN]: Do a follow-up because something weird has happened here, right?
[UNKNOWN]: This is a normal.
[UNKNOWN]: So when I get the wind and report, I'm able to contact Glenn minutes after I talked to this individual and he was headed to head waters with his team.
[UNKNOWN]: But I was like, no, no, no, go go window.
[UNKNOWN]: And so he's like, ah, and like they go over to window, check things out, they're able to
[UNKNOWN]: So we got that.
[UNKNOWN]: Then a few, I'm going to go through this chronologically because a few days later, I get another report on the ninth.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is over in Streetsboro, which is further west a bit.
[UNKNOWN]: There is a lady anonymously in her daughter driving down the road from Streetsboro to Hudson.
[UNKNOWN]: What they say is that they're driving down the road by Tinker's Creek.
[UNKNOWN]: They see what looks like a six and a half let's all brown Sasquatch.
[UNKNOWN]: Walking down pretty much their lane of traffic towards them, they have to swore of out of the way.
[UNKNOWN]: The daughters, like, pretty much I could have put my arm out the window and hit it as we went by.
[UNKNOWN]: The weirdest thing they said is she was like, I looked at it's face, it almost had a blurry face.
[UNKNOWN]: And she's like, is the weirdest thing that I've ever seen in it?
[UNKNOWN]: And that's a new one for me too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, she said it also had a weird way of walking almost like it was on still.
[UNKNOWN]: So I thought that was weird too.
[UNKNOWN]: Now if you look at the map, all these so far, they're all moving east and then as we'll see next the next day on the 10th.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're on March 10th, they start to go southeast.
[UNKNOWN]: So now we're in Newton Township.
[UNKNOWN]: This gentleman sends me a quick email in the morning and I'm just looking at my email like crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: And so because there's a lot of like AI generated stuff and like old photos, but I'm able to do like reverse image search on Google and so I'm like waiting out the stuff that's fake pretty quick, thankfully.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like this sounds like I should follow it up.
[UNKNOWN]: So I get his phone number and then he tells me how 4 a.m. he's got a German Shepherd.
[UNKNOWN]: He goes to the door to bring the shepherd outside German Shepherd outside.
[UNKNOWN]: The door opens, the German Shepherd freaks out, lunches towards the wood line.
[UNKNOWN]: The guy looks out there and he's like, there is something that was a tall, shadowy, dark figure.
[UNKNOWN]: This guy is like shook up emotionally.
[UNKNOWN]: He's like, I got to stay anonymous.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want anything about my name to get out like, very super-admit.
[UNKNOWN]: In a way that I've only heard from like face-to-face organ witnesses.
[UNKNOWN]: really intense.
[UNKNOWN]: And so he's like, yeah, I've got bear on my property, but I don't have what I saw back there was like nine to ten feet tall.
[UNKNOWN]: He was like, it was extremely massive.
[UNKNOWN]: He was able to get the dog in eventually.
[UNKNOWN]: And he said, once the dog was inside, it just wouldn't stop shaking.
[UNKNOWN]: It was just in a motion, like it was a wreck, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And it had never acted like that.
[UNKNOWN]: So the last public one,
[UNKNOWN]: was the same day.
[UNKNOWN]: And this was a anonymous individual at Lake Milton, which is further south.
[UNKNOWN]: And so what we've got going on here is another, let's say older lady looking out the window
[UNKNOWN]: seven foot tall rust colored or brownish red colored creature that is about 200 feet away from our house.
[UNKNOWN]: She's looking through the window.
[UNKNOWN]: It was going towards her pond, went under a tree, and the underbrush and then disappeared into the woods.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, did it just
[UNKNOWN]: vanish or did it disappear into the woods.
[UNKNOWN]: And so she's like, it did not vanish.
[UNKNOWN]: It just I couldn't see it as it went into the woods.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, okay, cool.
[UNKNOWN]: She was like, uh, she's like it didn't seem like no deer.
[UNKNOWN]: She was very adamant that it wasn't a deer.
[UNKNOWN]: And I asked I was like, how do you know this wasn't a deer bear?
[UNKNOWN]: And she was like one because of the color, but the main thing was like it had
[UNKNOWN]: She was very, I asked, hey, have you gone out and checked and she's like, man, I've been too busy.
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't been able to go out.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I mean, that's, that's the last public one at this time Glenn and I came up with the same realization, which is.
[UNKNOWN]: Glenn's trying to check out these areas.
[UNKNOWN]: And if public information is being put out, these areas are just getting slammed.
[UNKNOWN]: And at this point, we've got big foot researchers from all over the US now in this small part of Ohio.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I'm like, OK, Glenn, here.
[UNKNOWN]: Here's what we do.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, yeah, I've got the same idea.
[UNKNOWN]: So if I get if something passes a sniff test and then I get a phone number and I contact them and then it's like, yes, it sounds good.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I ask, hey, would you talk to my local researcher and they're like, yes,
[UNKNOWN]: that I move it on to Glenn and so Glenn is a great individual because he was a ten year protege of Robert W. Morgan, which is if you if you know a big five year big foot nerd, you know how cool that is and also he has he's a retired law enforcement individual among many other things.
[UNKNOWN]: So this guy knows how to do it in investigations and he's a perfect guy for the job and so
[UNKNOWN]: We may not be hearing more things publicly at this time, but there are things that Glenn is looking into that are very interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: I would say the reports at this point have stopped coming in, but Glenn is still investigating stuff that came in after the death.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's pretty much the story as as it leaves right now guys.
[UNKNOWN]: I got a lot of notes.
[UNKNOWN]: I know you got a lot of notes.
[UNKNOWN]: Me too.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm just going to, since you just said it right there, uh, right at the end there, well, I guess as a, uh, because we're just, you know, armchair researchers us, and Justin, I, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: We don't know this room.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not boots on the ground researchers, you know, we we like hearing the stories and we like talking about him.
[UNKNOWN]: We like sharing our opinions from a biologist standpoint and a bowling on a mechanic standpoint, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: But when when you were reporting, sharing your reports online, I seen like a divide within the, even within the big foot community was just like kind of people were saying, well, you know, like,
[UNKNOWN]: It's I don't know, it just seemed there was a positive and negative.
[UNKNOWN]: I seen where it was good.
[UNKNOWN]: It was all out there.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I seen the exact opposite where they're like, you know, why is he sharing all this out there because now it's just ruining any investigation going on.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm just thinking in my head like this is.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess I'm getting a little upset or emotional, but I guess I just see it where people, I don't understand why it isn't a good thing to show people and tell people like, this is real, this stuff that we all talk about.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not just happening right now.
[UNKNOWN]: It's happening right now in real time.
[UNKNOWN]: This is a real thing.
[UNKNOWN]: In order for the public to understand, it's not just like I made up fairy tale, like we're only,
[UNKNOWN]: you know a small portion of one percent or people are out there actually looking for it um... you know this is a great thing for the mainstream to realize you know this is uh... real phenomena we're not just all in here telling stories and you know just enjoying that with it and uh...
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know where do you draw the line about sharing reports and being on boots on the ground, investigate, researcher and just keep in the information within those people because I think both are great and both are problematic.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it is such a really, it's a really good discussion that's going on right now.
[UNKNOWN]: So because it's this, this situation is almost in a way different than how I usually view things with my podcast, which is when I'm looking at things on the podcast and I'm you know interviewing someone for the show, you know, I'm doing that so I can help
[UNKNOWN]: Their story out to other people so they can realize, hey, other people have someone else has experienced what I've experienced and they can work through their stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's a lot of really interesting discussion, and I, to be honest, I'm trying, I'm not getting involved with it just because, I mean, there's just some really intense discussions right now.
[UNKNOWN]: And I can get, I can get the point, but I think that's, man, I'm trying to think of how even to say this.
[UNKNOWN]: It's tough.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I'll say this for you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, okay, go ahead.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... i know anything in the big book community is going to be split always so i don't i don't i don't care if and everybody could do everything right but people for years are complained about the lock box sighting like places or you know it gets locked away for ten years and that uh... you i mean i think you did find because this created like jay was saying
[UNKNOWN]: a national buzz.
[UNKNOWN]: It was intense, guys.
[UNKNOWN]: But like a circus.
[UNKNOWN]: But for all the people, like Jay was saying, that maybe our fence writers are maybe seen one.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I do have comments about that.
[UNKNOWN]: uh... it makes him the first off it was going to make a lot more people from all around like you already seen come forward where i've seen that yet because okay i'm not crazy they're eighteen people seen one in in north or north east of high or six but you know uh... and they're talking about it on fox and joe rogan in and all these places steven cobert like the even cobert air yet so important ones you know i think
[UNKNOWN]: As far as research boots and they're going to want to see, I didn't danger species surveys.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I did for a living.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think Sasquatch, the flesh and blood Sasquatch, is always going to be an extremely hard challenge for surveying and research as far as that because they're so intelligent.
[UNKNOWN]: And I have plenty of friends that work with big cats,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, arguably you can say is the most intelligent endangered species that we're dealing with.
[UNKNOWN]: The actively are hiding from us besides, you know, the more cryptological animals.
[UNKNOWN]: And though we didn't, you have a cat with a collar, a radio collar on it, 30 feet from you.
[UNKNOWN]: You know where it is and you still can't find it.
[UNKNOWN]: So, wow, having big foot researchers,
[UNKNOWN]: go out there.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it ruined the scene.
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't because we've been there've been hundreds of people looking for thousands of years at this point.
[UNKNOWN]: I was going to say that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: So let him go out and look.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it ruins any.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not like a missing kid search.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Because I was going to say exact same thing is
[UNKNOWN]: uh... we've had big for researchers let's just say for a hundred years now at least yeah hard convert yeah at least i mean they've been there longer i mean people knew about it longer ball well before that but let's just say the hardcore modern research as we know today has been around at least that long and we don't got nothing still
[UNKNOWN]: for big though.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, not yet.
[UNKNOWN]: So why not why not get more people involved.
[UNKNOWN]: Why not open it up a little bit and set a keep in it.
[UNKNOWN]: So locking key.
[UNKNOWN]: So we can investigate it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know how about there's other people out there that are that can investigate things as well.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't have to be a their local expert that has to be the only one that's allowed to see anything.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean we've met Glenn.
[UNKNOWN]: I was looking at pictures of him.
[UNKNOWN]: I sound names sounded very familiar.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I enjoyed I think we met him at Hawking Hills, which one the first big foot festival.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: The big big one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, so just in my humble opinion, I think you did right.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you did good saying I was just seeing.
[UNKNOWN]: I just me and Jay talked about this before.
[UNKNOWN]: We seen praise and attack of how things were handled.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think you did great if that matters at all.
[UNKNOWN]: it.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: I would.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's leave it at that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, I'm sure I have to give it a opinion.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just doing the same thing I've done for years.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, I'm just going to stick with that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And just in the big foot community, no matter what way you do it, somebody's going to.
[UNKNOWN]: raise a stink.
[UNKNOWN]: The greasy wheel or what is not the greasy wheel.
[UNKNOWN]: The squeaky wheels are the ones that you hear.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what I'm saying.
[UNKNOWN]: Now that's the wrong saying for that, but I might be.
[UNKNOWN]: Where's Clarice?
[UNKNOWN]: That's like the opposite.
[UNKNOWN]: What you're the one you're going for.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to do one of your notes or do you want to actually I did have a question for the March 6 signing
[UNKNOWN]: the one in midday you said the sighting was by mtcr member what is that and that the military now well so that's a good question so I looked it up as something like missile I didn't know that that was actually it or not though
[UNKNOWN]: from from what I know the individual has some some kind of cryptid research organization in Manoay.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what that is.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: That one I was not able to investigate really thoroughly.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's just say.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was a thing where you know, it's it's one of the BMP ones too.
[UNKNOWN]: Gotcha.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's what I thought it was some kind of cryptid research, but when I I couldn't find it in the Emile Almighty Google, but it kept bringing up some missile.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you think it was our training?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I didn't know what it was.
[UNKNOWN]: I just thought it was really weird.
[UNKNOWN]: So I just figured I'd ask you it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's a good question.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So to the woman, okay, you took better notes than I did you always do.
[UNKNOWN]: and I seen one and it just in my head the whole time it's like they don't exist.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what I saw, but it wasn't it doesn't exist.
[UNKNOWN]: What did I see?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: And then shows like finding big foot mountain monsters, I always praise those kind of things because at least for my part of Ohio.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the only kind of influence we had for a long time of anything
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I know Eastern Ohio mean going to Walmart at Hock are at Logan and they got an 18 foot tall mural a big foot painted on it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's sweet.
[UNKNOWN]: And on Western Ohio, we just, until recently, relatively less, you know, 10 years, I'd say, really wasn't nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: Like you didn't see big foot cut out.
[UNKNOWN]: You didn't see.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, ever, it was just sprinkled rare.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, 10 years ago, like rare rare.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sprinkled in the middle of nowhere, driving down back road.
[UNKNOWN]: You'd see one every now and then.
[UNKNOWN]: So I just wanted to say that lady reminded me a lot of like when I see what you can see one of these things.
[UNKNOWN]: And still walk away being like, I don't know what I saw leave me alone.
[UNKNOWN]: Like because your brain is trying to defend itself of shock.
[UNKNOWN]: And we talk a lot about how the brain lies to you and how the brain will do all these all these things to protect itself from trauma.
[UNKNOWN]: And that would be it does and that could be emotional trauma.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, with a shifting of world view is can be very traumatic to your psyche.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, all right, there's mine.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, my turning in.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: I just minor a little out of order, but I had a on the March night sighting where they said they turn and, you know, the whole torso to look back at the guy, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I mean, that just gave me Patty from Patterson Gimmlin film like vibes just that whole turn like, yeah, that like stiff that was the stiff neck one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the stiff neck move it.
[UNKNOWN]: It just turned the shoulder to the torso to look back at him.
[UNKNOWN]: So I thought of that, but then so I started looking at all of them and I wrote down just kind of like the, uh, what do you say that the bookmark kind of
[UNKNOWN]: Like the cliff notes, the cliff notes, but like the main sightings, when you if you like could compile all the big foot sightings together, you know, you always get like not always, but you can boil it down to like several averages.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I wrote down like the rhythmic footsteps, you know, the person one person heard and what they felt, and her saw the vibrating grunt and then followed up by the forest silence, you know, that's a very common big foot.
[UNKNOWN]: It really is, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's currently with a lot of large predators too.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, I have a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm just I mean, that's that's to me.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess saying something real.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: It, you know, that you can kind of look at that.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's why I'm breaking going down all the sidings with and musky odor was reported by another one.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and then like you said, the impossibly long strides.
[UNKNOWN]: We've heard that.
[UNKNOWN]: tons of time.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, a lot of people that had a sightings or Greg Craig.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that shared their sightings with us shared a lot of the same kind of details with these separate results.
[UNKNOWN]: So when you're reviewing, uh, I guess, uh, reports coming into you, uh, how do you determine, you know, when to take one, I guess, how does it pass your sniff test?
[UNKNOWN]: Because yes, because we know this question.
[UNKNOWN]: We know plenty
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, we we had a break for a second, but is he back.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yes, yes, okay, but how do you determine you know what to say should he tell us though we still actively doing this stuff?
[UNKNOWN]: I guess I didn't mean not just from I think I can because it's yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And so the main reason guys are the main thing was that so I was getting hundreds and it was it was like a brand new thing I'd never really dealt with it before on the podcast, but you could blatantly tell that
[UNKNOWN]: Give me a really detailed big foot report and there were like M-s everywhere and it's like big foot did this not this or like you know what I mean.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that way of of talking and I was like oh and I saw it over and over and over and I was like Like there's there's a lot of garbage coming right now.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so it's mostly just like a gut feeling Yeah, you kind of doing it long enough
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you, you're seeing enough.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's really the most I think I want to get into it.
[UNKNOWN]: But as, you know, you made a good point is you don't want to, I guess, give it all away.
[UNKNOWN]: But the main thing was like, if you see something that's made by chatGPT, if you can see it pretty, pretty good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, happy to see you guys.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hm.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the only email reply.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, right, right.
[UNKNOWN]: I where they want to talk about the blurry face.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, yeah, which, which, which encounter was that?
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't take good notes.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the streets burrow one on, uh, let me bring up my, we have a little bit of a street burrow.
[UNKNOWN]: Ooh, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Monday, March 9th around 8 p.m.
[UNKNOWN]: The cool thing is is that,
[UNKNOWN]: was able to set up in interview that hasn't come out yet with an individual that lives in the same area and he shared with me his sightings and experiences that happened also in man away in streets burrow but closer to the year 2000 and so he was able to verify that yeah this the same
[UNKNOWN]: So more to come on on the podcast there, but yeah, man, I'm not sure what to think about that whole like here's some more details about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Actually, this does get this does get even weirder now that I think about it.
[UNKNOWN]: So they reported that.
[UNKNOWN]: It looked like it had a blurred face, no eyes that they could see.
[UNKNOWN]: It was all like brown hair around the face, but the facial hair was lighter than the rest of it.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, in the facial features were really not spread out.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's like some, um, that's some stuff that I don't hear a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: Like that's pretty unique stuff there.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, um, that were okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: Reminds me of another story that I have written down.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, um, I am as I, as you said earlier, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of data in this and as I decompress from this and get more time back into my day, I am pretty much making sure that the final report is on a big foot society podcast.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's under the block section and that's where like the final map is and.
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I need to make sure that everything is there for, um, for future, people to, to reference.
[UNKNOWN]: So, yeah, you're doing your due diligence.
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: Good way to put it.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, do you have one, or do you want me to go again?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I mean, I just, I'm just curious about what they freaking saw when they's, the blurry face.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: So, that always makes me think of, you remember when we did Momo,
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe was very monster.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, but what explicitly.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, this whole case Now I'd and let's get in and make stuff with big money But it reminded me a lot of Momo after he started talking Where there was the two different sizes like two different colors being seen the big white one Didn't have a face Oh, yeah, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: It just was it was it just had like little like hair over its face
[UNKNOWN]: Like cousin it like cousin it yeah, and it was it was tall, but Lincoln like it wasn't like the big filled out big the other one was it was shorter though, it was like six or seven feet tall But it was built like a normal big or the average big foot and then the old or what we just what we talked about our episode the old one was this tall link you want and we cannot kind of compare it it to
[UNKNOWN]: why there were so many sightings and so much weirdness happening was it was almost like a grandpa trying to wrangle his grandkids because they were seen together in some spots and then they were seen one after the other and when they came out of they came out of the that abandoned house's basement together.
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what we did this a while.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you remember any of this vaguely
[UNKNOWN]: You're like I think I think it's Momo.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but when you start talking about this that's Just like the little or one in the bigger one and I'm not saying it's exactly the same by any means But it just like you said it earlier like this is the first time we're Documenting one of these big flaps like this since the 70s and I was a moment with the 60s or the 70s Oh gosh, I think early early 70s.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know but yeah, it's I don't know
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, it really I got really short clouds because I think mama was only like four maybe even five days and had all those sightings
[UNKNOWN]: 72.
[UNKNOWN]: I was right on it.
[UNKNOWN]: He's right on it.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, where it was like, you know, just the short range ton of sightings, at least two different Sasquatch being seen, you know, and some like the one lady who was one, and then 15 minutes later, the other one came out of the river right after it, and she thought like, you know, so just as we are, I don't know, just remind me a lot of Momo.
[UNKNOWN]: That's really cool.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no one's made that that connection yet.
[UNKNOWN]: That's pretty cool, man, but I mean, yeah, I only remember chunks of it, but I mean, if it's it's really in a year or I guess similar sightings, you know, it's something to take note of I guess now everybody there was only was there only ever one creature in this whole flap scene at one time, right.
[UNKNOWN]: different.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, different sizes, but that is one question.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're just one at any given time, but they are reported as having different colors and different heights.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: But no one ever seen actually two at once.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, that I can't imagine.
[UNKNOWN]: If that had happened, that area would have just exploded.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely wild.
[UNKNOWN]: It was, dude, it was at the tipping point.
[UNKNOWN]: And that that was part
[UNKNOWN]: Like, it was getting so intense, and I was hearing, like, rip, you know, you hear those stories about people driving around in trucks, like I was starting to hear those stories of like, all right, we're driving around in trucks and look on, yeah, look for the foot and yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I, the graphed in monster did nothing to nobody in the exact same thing happened.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Anybody listen to it or graphed in monster.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's only like 40 minutes long because it was scene twice.
[UNKNOWN]: And the guy that the news paper guy that seen it regretted it because there was 400 people out there with shotguns the next day chasing this thing down trying to blow it away.
[UNKNOWN]: It did, it did nothing.
[UNKNOWN]: That's just human nature, though.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're like, hmm, a bit of a beast might be able to eat it.
[UNKNOWN]: It whistles, oh, death, even better.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was a bit of a visitor too.
[UNKNOWN]: That happened.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Posse time.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's not saying should happen.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to clear that for just because I'm sure people will hear that weird.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that should happen ever.
[UNKNOWN]: So no, I mean, unless it's killing people or yeah, unless it's actual beast.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I guess the only one I can really think of in modern quote unquote times was maybe some of the folk stuff when it was getting kind of wild Like actually like into windows and barns and like knocking Pete like that one we've talked about that though.
[UNKNOWN]: I always thought it had rabies or oh yeah, but it was starting to get like
[UNKNOWN]: Or if like a portlock incident happened in like four o'clock.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, portlocker.
[UNKNOWN]: People people are getting.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah See Joe know be our or not I know be a that wasn't.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because we try to vendate the festival and they never responded.
[UNKNOWN]: Hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I explained it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, where we're ready for it is what they're with that means.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, say it right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Next.
[UNKNOWN]: I even spelled it wrong in the email, probably.
[UNKNOWN]: But no, I mean, it really is like, one of the 60s and 70s like flaps in modern day, which is amazing, which is awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: I had two, I have three more notes.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to go ahead?
[UNKNOWN]: Go ahead.
[UNKNOWN]: first one dog shaking after it came in.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that remind you of anything?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a lot of stories.
[UNKNOWN]: Well mine with Sunny.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sure.
[UNKNOWN]: He was paralyzed.
[UNKNOWN]: This big, you know, powerful.
[UNKNOWN]: And he was just in there shaking on the ground.
[UNKNOWN]: Clarice was there.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, the dog that pooped on the floor.
[UNKNOWN]: The dog that pooped on the floor for Jeremiah last time.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a callback to our last episode, guys.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Clarice was there for the big foot.
[UNKNOWN]: She's the through line.
[UNKNOWN]: She just died.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: And then all these flaps happened.
[UNKNOWN]: It's her goats.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, wait, she died like two years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: Last, no, it was last year.
[UNKNOWN]: Last year was last year.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay, I feel like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Really?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because she died when we were going ice fishing.
[UNKNOWN]: It was longer.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Sad.
[UNKNOWN]: The stilt walking.
[UNKNOWN]: Could you explain that again on that one sighting?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so, and it man, that's, that's where I wish I could have been like their Yeah, talking to the witness and like, can you try to do it?
[UNKNOWN]: And so,
[UNKNOWN]: I thought of that a lie and I'm thinking maybe what they were trying to say is it looked like how someone is on still, it's like their tall and maybe they're leaning forward.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just it's such a weird thing to describe like that and I've heard a lot of reaper over a thousand reports and I've never heard that used.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so weird now.
[UNKNOWN]: It almost made me think of stiff legs.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We're good.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that's just when you said it, that's what made me think of it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, when you see somebody like wearing pants and stilts, that their leg doesn't move, you know, Or maybe that weird stride has a weird bend because it's not where even if they're stretched out like the knees should proportionally be, but like, I mean, Jeremiah's probably right where it's that, you know, it could be that lean to just that like four, I
[UNKNOWN]: Or it's just what we think of when we see something tall walking on two feet.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just It's just a guy.
[UNKNOWN]: That's just gone still.
[UNKNOWN]: It's what it looks like.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know how giant.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was TJ.
[UNKNOWN]: Do you have a giant?
[UNKNOWN]: The Ohio giant.
[UNKNOWN]: TJ, are you listening to this?
[UNKNOWN]: Was this you?
[UNKNOWN]: He's walking back home from Cleveland.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it could be.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, and then I've been a fishery van like Milton.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, is that for your notes?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know it's I've actually been the like Milton.
[UNKNOWN]: When he said that I had to look it up and yeah, I believe we got sand orders in one of the head waters there.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe that's what he was after the sand.
[UNKNOWN]: The garden endangered.
[UNKNOWN]: See.
[UNKNOWN]: Good, man.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll tell you, though, uh, because I do want to get into theories.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure I'm really excited for yours, uh, but from the Lake Milton survey in that head water survey, there is some really some of the cleanest water in Ohio's in that area.
[UNKNOWN]: Actually, that is important.
[UNKNOWN]: That's on the spring, or the cleanest springs and cleanest headwaters.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that just brings some new theories to the 9th.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just saying.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: When we, because we've done, like, talks about
[UNKNOWN]: Like, so like, when we do some of the sask watch stuff for like hockey hills, for example, we did this the first year, talked about basically when we tackle big foot, we get rid of the word big foot and just use large mammal.
[UNKNOWN]: and because I've done plenty of surveys for large mammals, elk and bear and everything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you just like your map and everything like that, the, you know, or people that have not had the sight of the paranormal or the supernatural or the cryptological, you know, they just don't have that kind of
[UNKNOWN]: base line interaction with that part of the world and they see a map that says bigfoot, you know, everybody eight bigfoot's That eggs here, you know, they're like, oh, there was a crack or drunk or you know, I hate the drunk thing
[UNKNOWN]: They just I hate that when people say that because a hopscanville goblin thing might one of my daughter's actually bill name is after that That's cool because but you like when people are in crack.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what no When you're okay with she was a god-fearing woman now you got me on it She was a god-fearing woman that wouldn't even allow swearing in her house.
[UNKNOWN]: Let alone drinking what a drunk They immediately wrote them as they were all they were drunk on moonshine.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and that's why they and it's no they're never happened
[UNKNOWN]: Now I lost my triathlete, uh, clean, have water, so yeah, but so if you take your reports that you got your map, it makes sense.
[UNKNOWN]: I just want to say that to everybody.
[UNKNOWN]: You just get rid of the word bigfoot for the non bigfoot people.
[UNKNOWN]: As a biological point of view, you can start seeing stuff with following creek patterns and fresh water and clean environments and forest coverage.
[UNKNOWN]: It's in the green in the green highway.
[UNKNOWN]: Right, but it doesn't know what that is.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure a lot of our long time listeners know what the green highway is, but it's eastern Ohio has what's called the green highway where from southern Ohio all the way up to northern Ohio where you can get into Pennsylvania, New York and you can get back up around the Great Lakes and besides highways, you can pretty much walk in tree cover the whole way up.
[UNKNOWN]: And so yours, where you have this is right
[UNKNOWN]: It's fascinating.
[UNKNOWN]: It's talking about a biological point of view.
[UNKNOWN]: We see it like one of the guys that seen a lot of bears on this property and stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's because that's the, some of the last bit that have the like the hard, it's called hard mass for its cover.
[UNKNOWN]: Hard mass is like a corn to that kind of stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a food source.
[UNKNOWN]: So you don't see a lot of these large mammal populations without hard mass because it's a seasonal food source that they need to get by
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, like, you know, we don't, we like, like peanut butter, like peanut butter is just fat and protein.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm.
[UNKNOWN]: So good.
[UNKNOWN]: But like acorns have a lot of protein in them and stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Acorn butter.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I've never had it, but so I just wanted to say that as a compliment and.
[UNKNOWN]: uh uh credibility to this is that if you got rid of the word bigfoot, you could say this is elk, you could say this is bear, it makes sense for any large mammal to kind of be following the patterns in the sightings.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the one in the highway, well, I do you think that was, was that, and now I don't want to mix them up.
[UNKNOWN]: Was that a daytime sighting or a night sighting?
[UNKNOWN]: uh... that was a uh... specific at eight p.m. local time on monday march nine so i've been dark and why late area here yeah now okay so i i mean did it could be so i'll say this with organisms with like uh... the loosen organ in their eyes dusk and twilight dusk and dawn are the hardest times for them to see that's a hard time when i drive
[UNKNOWN]: Well, no, I just mean I can't see what else.
[UNKNOWN]: So animals they have they have night vision.
[UNKNOWN]: They struggle with the dawn dusk time periods because they're they're I just trying to do both.
[UNKNOWN]: If you ever watch the rain of fire the dragon movie they talk about that.
[UNKNOWN]: Where that's the only time they can attack the dragons.
[UNKNOWN]: They got like a half hour window every day.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the only time
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but now it's so it's just interesting to me that you start seeing a lot of this because that wouldn't Was a weird one to me until you just said the time where well that makes sense like the twilight and it's you know moving around because that was one of the shorter ones wasn't it
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because it happened as literally just as they're driving past it as so it was let me double check.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't I did not get a duration time on it, but yeah, I mean literally they're just driving by and so height.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, height would be six foot.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought you said on that one six and a half foot tall.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Perceivably a younger one, I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[UNKNOWN]: I would say so, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's done to the one, maybe.
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
[UNKNOWN]: Big eyes and suned.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Too much coffee as a kid.
[UNKNOWN]: But, I mean, I'm up for either way.
[UNKNOWN]: I really want to hear your theories on it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I know we have our theories, but I really want to hear yours first.
[UNKNOWN]: So let me run through what I've heard.
[UNKNOWN]: And I will then tell you what my favorite one is.
[UNKNOWN]: I've heard a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: I've heard everything from are they fleeing from something or are they going towards something maybe this is a mating year and they're trying to get to a certain area I think it was Ashley Hilt that was like hey you know the mushrooms are starting to get into season which is a cool theory because she's taken reports from this area for the last few years
[UNKNOWN]: some people were like, well, you know, we just had those weird tornadoes.
[UNKNOWN]: The weather is weird right now.
[UNKNOWN]: So maybe that's related.
[UNKNOWN]: A big one that's just kicked in the last few days is that meteor came down.
[UNKNOWN]: And so when that happened, oh my goodness, my email went nuts.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like, look, big foot was getting out of the area and then this meteor or comes down.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, it was, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to tell you, it's like the sharks in Florida.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm happy people sending a ride more of a mirived on the meteor or something too.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Catching it right out.
[UNKNOWN]: one or two, but most of them are like Derek getting out of town.
[UNKNOWN]: The one I like the most is from Glenn, who's the researcher Glenn Adkins from the area.
[UNKNOWN]: And his theory is that his theory is that
[UNKNOWN]: The time frame that this these sightings happened, the weather in this area was really warm and so you had tons of people out that most years should not have been out and we all know that you need part of having a big foot sighting is having the people are to see the big foot.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm I'm going with an unseason very very warm hot
[UNKNOWN]: whether warm weather and so more people out walking around and that's why you're seeing these creatures that are moving around and they're usually not seen by people at this time of year because usually there's its colder or there's more snow on the ground or something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's that's the one I'm kind of leaning towards myself.
[UNKNOWN]: I like I like that one a lot because
[UNKNOWN]: just like what I said at the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Where do you want to talk to me when go?
[UNKNOWN]: Just that it I just think it's normal.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess activity normal behavior and it's just people finally seeing it and are finally reporting it and there's someone out there that can publish those reports that all people around the world can see it.
[UNKNOWN]: In real time, I think that's a great, and this is where the magic of the Bigfoot Mapping Project happens and because you have a place where
[UNKNOWN]: let's say someone can report a big foot sighting and then it can, it's not going to get stuck, but it's going to be shared and then combine that with the culture that we live in, which is a social media intense news cycle and then you have a count like mine where they take that information, put it out in the algorithm, goes crazy and it's just kind of like a perfect storm type situation.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think like the the only danger I think we're not danger I want to say that
[UNKNOWN]: uh... i think it's great that all that is able to happen and i think uh... things can get misconstrued or or sure they let things uh... like i think the truth is out there with everything everything you can always find the truth out there if you're looking for but i also think uh... so many theories like the ones you just named off people were telling you like all it's running from something or it's it's you know running from the media or it's you like the mating place you know it's just all these wild theories get tossed out there
[UNKNOWN]: And like it comes like with a government trying to conceal truths, you know, in the media and things like that, they'll allow those things and theories to just run wild, like wildflower out there and they'll even put some of them out there themselves to let just people talk about that rather than just focusing on what the actual truth is.
[UNKNOWN]: and potentially yeah and I think sometimes the truth does get out there in some of those quote unquote crazy theories I think sometimes they are the truth and you're just labeled as a crazy person if you actually believe that but let's entertain all this other stuff that it's not but if you land on the truth you're the crazy person it just feels like that's how it's shaped
[UNKNOWN]: The labeling the truth is crazy and this letting anything else says, well, maybe maybe we can air to act because it's just bought.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not the truth.
[UNKNOWN]: What I hope happens through all this is, you know, allegedly, there's going to be a releasing of maybe some UFO and alien stuff from the government.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe they'll see this and they'll be like, you know, let's throw in the bigfoot stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Throw in the bigfoot file.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Why not this is throw it all in and they've killed too many of them so they've killed too many of them that's too much blood Oh, it's that or we're we're actually Leaning on the government to actually reveal anything truthful about anything When it comes to aliens are big for a I'd a chai I say if they put it out.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, what that's there's the lie What do you know where they're putting it out?
[UNKNOWN]: Like let's see what they put out and then look at the exact opposite thing and then we might find the truth in that very opinionated area.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no.
[UNKNOWN]: We're all on the list now, but we've been on I should say oh list not the list we've been on a list for a while I'm an on a list and the list you only have seen this Google my name He did my last name, but it did come up your last name did come up I was it was some other research Just saying One of the clones are on the island.
[UNKNOWN]: I googled your first name and you didn't believe how much came up
[UNKNOWN]: It's if you probably could Google my full name and it may come up because that race car driver.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, obviously.
[UNKNOWN]: There is that one famous guy that shares my name.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: They didn't use race cars.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I fit in those little cars.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'd look like a bus bus can of biscuits.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I really.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I like the Momo kind of thought personally, where I have this, uh, we've talked about theories and stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: None of us know, but you know, you've been around for a while and as far as like some biological things, I always like to go with that kind of route and kind of just use other animals.
[UNKNOWN]: in place those behaviors on to them, because you see these, it's co-version evolution in animals for behaviors and intelligent animals kind of do the same thing across the board.
[UNKNOWN]: So for example, Orcas, arguably one of the other most intelligent animals on the planet, besides us and Baylean whales and like Benoebos and those kind of things.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so top five probably sentient animals on the planet.
[UNKNOWN]: 10 ricks are not sent you okay, never mind.
[UNKNOWN]: There's there's they're living poisonous rocks It look like hedgehogs I'm sorry you even remember what a 10 rick is.
[UNKNOWN]: I know I did make the random animal Well, you are doing it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I was bailing whales But I know those.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know Orcas orcas.
[UNKNOWN]: There we go.
[UNKNOWN]: Orcas
[UNKNOWN]: Orcas have an extreme matriarchal society, but there's actually like 32-ish subspecies of Orcas that we've now discovered.
[UNKNOWN]: So migratory orcopods have a really unique thing they do, where the matriarch, the mom, the grandma, is normally who it is, stays back with the kids.
[UNKNOWN]: and teaches them a lot of stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: She no longer hunts.
[UNKNOWN]: She no longer goes out of her, you know, so the rest of Pod travel sometimes hundreds of miles away from grandma and the kids.
[UNKNOWN]: And she is spending her time teaching them
[UNKNOWN]: All, you know, stuff that she's learned over her long life, you know, work as live in their 80s and teach in no skills before they go out and start learning how to hunt.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, whether that's communication, navigation, salinity test, do you ever see them stick out their tongue?
[UNKNOWN]: And they can tell where rivers are coming from inland where they may want to feed on salmon runs.
[UNKNOWN]: So I kind of placed that behavior like with MoMo, you know, it seemed to have an older, you know, maybe elderly individual and a very young individual.
[UNKNOWN]: And you don't really see a lot of other Sasquatch in that incident.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, there's this old white one that's skinny when we're assuming and there's younger like six foot bulky one.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's still a kid, though.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so yeah, it's going to learn from grandpa or grandma a little bit, but it's also going to run off and try and we've talked about that in a lot of the hawking hills encounters that sometimes when you like when you have and then salt fork too, there's a lot of these salt fork encounters away or salt fork in Ohio for everybody listening, which is part of the both of those areas are part of the green highway.
[UNKNOWN]: where sulfur for example, there's three different settings I can think of when we had John on where you could see you seen a big foot on the trail ahead of you.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's just standing there looking at y'all funky or trying to walk away and like it almost like it's trying to lead you somewhere.
[UNKNOWN]: And when you turn around, it's because there was a baby you walked by, or you know, and it's it's just trying to lure you away in that kind of stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: So it really makes me think of this, that's one option that this giant individual, you know, we're talking the one people are seeing that it's nine feet tall.
[UNKNOWN]: And we talked about animal weights with it doesn't it's not it's based it's not a normal like a straight line scale it's a high bark like it's a high graph like the taller you are you get heavier a lot faster.
[UNKNOWN]: So a nine foot bipedal organism would be immense and I'm 10 foot and I mean we're not a nine yeah it's they exponentially grow yes exponentially thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: So, I'm not saying the big foot can't get 10 feet, I believe they do.
[UNKNOWN]: I think those are rare probably on the East Coast to mean that big, but that would point though to an older individual.
[UNKNOWN]: And you're only seeing in this flap at least from what I can tell, an older individual in a younger individual, six or seven feet and then this nine or ten foot or you know this I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: Massive one and a little one where is it mom and baby is it you know this bull male and a juvenile I going to female you know there's some kind of with the sightings being this close or some kind of relationship.
[UNKNOWN]: between these two animals.
[UNKNOWN]: I would imagine, you know, that's speculation on my part, highly.
[UNKNOWN]: So the grandpa taking care of the kid theory, the migration theory, like you said to Ashley, we are having an early mushroom spring and the homeless community in the national parks.
[UNKNOWN]: I've had a lot of experience with them.
[UNKNOWN]: My buddy was named Skunk out of the Hawking Hills when they would
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what they would follow back up is the mushrooms, okay.
[UNKNOWN]: So humans do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Homeless humans in the national park system do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Where they follow, they follow the mushrooms back up because, you know, they're forging.
[UNKNOWN]: That's, you know, amazing food source.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think Bigfoot scared of the cold.
[UNKNOWN]: They live in Alaska and everything like that.
[UNKNOWN]: But I do think they are food migratory motivated.
[UNKNOWN]: uh, in mushrooms are amazing food source.
[UNKNOWN]: I, but I really like what you said and like what Glenn said, where it's just
[UNKNOWN]: normal activity.
[UNKNOWN]: They probably this unit or this group probably does it every year.
[UNKNOWN]: But March 9th is normally frozen hell in a northeast Ohio and northwest Ohio.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And so there's two people normally out in the woods.
[UNKNOWN]: So if you walk this path and like migratory animals depending on the species like there's elevation migration and all this stuff that we've done episodes on the types of migration.
[UNKNOWN]: But migratory animals depending on what you're talking about,
[UNKNOWN]: are extremely predictable.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, if you're talking like great white sharks, for example, some of our adult male, great white sharks have four years cycles to the day.
[UNKNOWN]: You can tell without trackers, because that's how they start tracking a couple of man meters.
[UNKNOWN]: So off the coast of California, when there's one specific shark, they know he's only here for three days, every four years, so they, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: because he's there.
[UNKNOWN]: They know he's gonna be there.
[UNKNOWN]: So, migratory animals can be extremely date-specific.
[UNKNOWN]: And March 9th, that's kind of the range we're really talking about, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Sixth and 10th.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, really, early March.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, in our lifetime, when could you think of real early March having 75 degrees?
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's not, not often.
[UNKNOWN]: Like maybe once in 30 years.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe.
[UNKNOWN]: Like this warm.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, we're having mushrooms pop up 70 degrees in March.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was almost 80 degrees.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so traditionally Mushroom season doesn't start till turkey season done season or turkeys here in Ohio Which is April just I mean, it's just for anybody.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you you made a really important point though that Milton Lake has the some of the cleanest Yeah, that whole part.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we're talking like sugar and river and I mean still has So here I'll tell you this
[UNKNOWN]: There is a big cluster of clean water dependent endangered state endangered species in that area.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know it's clean water.
[UNKNOWN]: So, hooking a problem is, I did this, you know, worked with acid mind drainage.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of the eastern part of Ohio is acid mind drainage.
[UNKNOWN]: What looks like clean crystal clear water, it has a pH of 1.8, which will eat your boots because it did it to me.
[UNKNOWN]: My goodness.
[UNKNOWN]: I got a little bit of water on it, but it's clear.
[UNKNOWN]: It's crystal clear.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you didn't know what you were doing, you're sticking hand in that, it's just going to not come back like that raccoon that dropped the cotton candy in the water.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but you're armed.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But so that area though, milk north, so there's, I know there's sand orders, which are a state endangered.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so shagran, which is not too far, has the only surviving
[UNKNOWN]: which it's, that's, they need such clean, clear, oxygenate of water, it's it.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's, there's a myriad of other species.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I did.
[UNKNOWN]: So I can, but if you're an intelligent creature, like you clean water.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, you need clean water and you're gonna know where it's at and you're gonna go to those places where it's at, that you know it's at.
[UNKNOWN]: So I believe like what you said, I mean,
[UNKNOWN]: At to me it adds up this is just a a known path they're going to use And because they know there's not much people they know the water's clean and it's just what they that's their area they use and now this time people Caught a few of them they saw them in the act and like well and then like you said that there's Amazing places like with Jeremiah and the big foot mapping product where you can turn these in Like you can actually like 30 years ago
[UNKNOWN]: There didn't exist, no, maybe one, you know, maybe one 30 years ago, but you couldn't do this.
[UNKNOWN]: No, now it's a thing.
[UNKNOWN]: So like, unless, I mean, like we've talked about the 60s and 70s, everybody, I mean, from Kiel and stuff like that, you heard some stories and then Kiel had to go there.
[UNKNOWN]: and then that's been the more stories came out is the you know we took weeks he's lived in a hotel down there and then Mary I was for your last name but they helped kill it amazingly doesn't get enough of the librarian no Mary the she was journalists from Athens Ohio okay and she drove down and did a lot of work with John okay got you really yeah I forget her name I'm sorry Mary Mary but she did an amazing work too and so there were
[UNKNOWN]: boots on the ground people in the 60s and 70s only weighed some of these got out.
[UNKNOWN]: And so I'm sure there was big flaps, you know, in the 80s to happen out in Oklahoma or happen in Nebraska or happen in South Dakota.
[UNKNOWN]: And there just wasn't they didn't get out fast enough or there wasn't a person there close enough.
[UNKNOWN]: to turn around and like you were saying you know with the power the good bad and different with social media and stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody could see this now.
[UNKNOWN]: They're like, well, I just seen one there, too.
[UNKNOWN]: And here's what I see.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: I talked a lot there.
[UNKNOWN]: I got a lot of thoughts.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I just think if anyone out there has seen a big foot or has a turn in Jeremiah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, go to Bigfoot, a big foot, a big foot society podcast.com and write Jeremiah and email.
[UNKNOWN]: Tell them your experience.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
[UNKNOWN]: Bigfoot Society at gmail.com.
[UNKNOWN]: Send him a big foot.
[UNKNOWN]: Head.
[UNKNOWN]: Gosh.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, oh, what he's.
[UNKNOWN]: Grizzly and scary fast.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Wow.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, you get a call from the postart or from the postart.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you're a little box.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you buy another one?
[UNKNOWN]: You got another one down here.
[UNKNOWN]: You got a box.
[UNKNOWN]: It's leaking.
[UNKNOWN]: It's stinky.
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't smell.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Please don't do that.
[UNKNOWN]: In Georgia that was a pig stuffed into the big foot costume.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my gosh.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, disgusting.
[UNKNOWN]: Remember that sold for a million dollars?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my gosh.
[UNKNOWN]: or George and Hillbilly's figured it out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, wait, it's got good.
[UNKNOWN]: No, what does stick with the reports?
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, yeah, please.
[UNKNOWN]: Shade, do you have anything?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, this has been a great.
[UNKNOWN]: I really enjoyed talking with you and you sharing the whole breakdown of how it went down.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's been not refreshing, but what's the right word?
[UNKNOWN]: It's just been lightning.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm lightning about it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's nice just seeing.
[UNKNOWN]: the other side of the experience because you see the stuff on social media not particularly like in your case what happened but you just see the big foot stuff and big foot stories all the time and it's just nice to talk to the guy on the other side of it reporting it all straight from the horse's mouth.
[UNKNOWN]: I enjoy that.
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
[UNKNOWN]: There you go and always fun to talk to you guys
[UNKNOWN]: If you're listening, I just want to check it out.
[UNKNOWN]: I just did an interview actually with Glenn on Bigfoot Society, so if you want to hear Glenn side of it, there's some, there's some interesting details on that.
[UNKNOWN]: You can check that out over at Bigfoot Society.
[UNKNOWN]: Just check out, look for Glenn Adkins.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: So the out for everybody at home down below, we'll be a link to the podcast, a link to the website, and then I'll specifically we'll link for Glenn's episode.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: So that'll be in that, I'll try to do it in that order just below this.
[UNKNOWN]: So please everybody, check out Jeremiah, support of me if you can't a five-star review or share in something is the easiest and freeest way to support a creator.
[UNKNOWN]: What if you can't buy a T shirt, join Patreon, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: uh... Jeremiah's a guy and he deserves financial compensation what all right you ready to say that you guys thank you you ready for the song will end on the song well Jeremiah was a bullfrogs man he was a good friend of mine
[UNKNOWN]: Nana, you guys are gonna get demonetized on you too.
[UNKNOWN]: He's never done it.