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[SPEAKER_00]: but your drug doesn't respect you, they don't listen to you and they certainly won't do what you want them to do when they want to do something they want to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you've predicated your entire life off of cookies and treats and a facade of reality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why dogs are getting put down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why dog owners are returning dogs to the shelters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why really nice puppies go up to be monsters and then end up three or four or five other trainers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because of these reasons, it's very simple to understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Guys, I have to make this one because I'm just very frustrated with dog owners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: getting lied to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, another, I've made similar podcasts in YouTube episodes, but I think dog owners are

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[SPEAKER_00]: really fooled and manipulated to think that correcting your dog is an awful idea, providing some sort of momentary discomfort to a dog who is exhibiting long-term stress in life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it breaks my heart, because the amount of dogs who are put down or even worse potentially, arguably, live a life of stress, anxiety, and riddled with fear because of that lie is very dark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a dark thing to be messin' with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so guys, I have been professionally training behavior modification for over a decade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know a lot of trainers who have been training a long time and experience does matter, but honesty matters more and one of the things that I'm really

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[SPEAKER_00]: sad about for dog owners out there is they read something on the internet or a professional tells them that you should never correct your dog because it'll make them stressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's unpack that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go over, I've dealt with this hundreds of times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have hundreds of videos on YouTube diving into this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tons of footage and evidence to back what I'm about to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's very important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why I'm saying this is not to be right, not to be correct, not to be the one that's like, I told you so I'm doing this because the sake of the dog,

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[SPEAKER_00]: is the only thing I care about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not here to argue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not here to be right again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm here for dog owners who are searching for information that are desperate for help or people who just want to learn more about dogs in general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this isn't a, you're right, I'm wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wrong, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to argue about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to have this big battle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: somebody who is dedicated their whole life as a professional to this my subjective opinion and i've done a lot of things in life that i've done a lot of things in life wrong and i've made a lot of mistakes and i wish i had guidance on those things sometimes it's good to learn the hard way but in these cases not for the not the sake of your dog

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, dogs are getting put down at a very fast rate due to some of this information, which is deadly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dog owners are being scammed, literally, out of hundreds of thousands, hundreds and thousands of dollars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And most importantly, arguably, I would say that dogs are living a very stressed life because of this information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for an example, when somebody comes in with a dog who is so reactive, let's talk about the amount of stress that goes into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, somebody pays, so somebody let's my average client comes from 500 miles away for an example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So somebody comes from Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Texas, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so they have a dog that's so reactive on the leash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: so aggressive on the leash and I've had it, you know, and you guys have seen in my videos, they're jumping up, they're landing on their head, they're redirecting to their owners, they're biting their owners, they're trying to attack another dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just walking their dog is the most stressful part of their day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a point in time where the dog is supposed to be, you know, the best time of your day, arguably, depending if you have kids or not,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even if you do, a big part of their day, and for me, like walking my dogs with my kids is the best part of my day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I start my day with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's typically what we end our day with, depending on how close we are to bed time for the boys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But...

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now that part of your day is not that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's stressful, it's dangerous, you got anxiety, you don't want to see people, you don't want to see dogs, it's bad, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not how it should be, that's not how it's supposed to be and that's not how it needs to be, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when we correct a dog for, when we correct a dog for an example,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's actually, let's do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go in the chat, GBT here real quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's see what chat says about what a correction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to find a correction in real time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see what chat says about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chat GBT is obviously AI.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, what is the definition of a correction?

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[SPEAKER_01]: In the context of dog training, especially with your balance training approach, a correction is an immediate consequence you apply.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to interrupt or discourage and unwanted behavior in the moment it happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not about punishing the dog for being exposed to a trigger, but rather providing clear feedback to guide them toward the behavior you do want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Timing and consistency are key, so the dog understands exactly what's expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so there you have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correcting a dog is to help them understand that the behavior that they're doing

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to correct that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the kid comes to you and says, Mommy Daddy, one plus one is four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You say, no, it's two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We correct it to help them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we're driving and we hit the rumble strips, that's a correction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many, I mean, I could go on literally for hours about how we live life through checks and balances through corrections every day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but the biggest thing that I see dog owners tell me is, well, you shouldn't correct the dog because it's stressful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Studies have shown, correcting the dog is stressful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: something I hear from dog trainers while you don't want to correct your dog because I don't make things worse, it'll make your dog really stressed, it'll make your dog fear you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I made another podcast about debunking that in depth with literally a video of a dog and just completely demolishing and dissolving that theory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll just go a little bit more in depth with this in granular with this particular thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's similar to what I talked about before about how dogs if you correct, so I made another podcast about if you correct it So one of the theories out there, which is again like dangerous if you correct a dog to the trigger that they're reactive to skateboard It's roller blades dogs people whatever then they're going to associate that thing as the correction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is such a flop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, aren't that's wrong But if you correct a dog in general

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[SPEAKER_00]: The general consensus for the people who don't agree with corrections and more importantly, dog owners who are reading some of this stuff, well, I don't want to scare my dog, I don't want to correct my dog because it's going to be scary, they're going to be more stressed, it's going to make things worse, that's what they're reading.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let me let me put it to you in multiple different perspectives so dog owners who are hungry and eager for information who are not finding results and other alternative training methodologies and ideologies understand this because this is where this is important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your kid is about to cross a busy road and you don't want to reach out and grab them or you don't want to reach out and grab their hand and tell them no or yell at them or scare them to not run because you don't want to scare them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to stress them out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what that's like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: your kid grabs a knife out of the dishwasher takes it like this and starts running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to yell at him, you don't want to chase him, you don't want to grab him because you don't want to scare him, you don't want to stress him out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know just on that alone, if anybody is listening to this on a platform which

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[SPEAKER_00]: Under those contexts allow their kid to cross a busy road or run around the room with a knife or scissors and not punish them or correct them or stop them because we don't want to stress them out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be very interested if there's any humans out there that would say nope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually would not want to stress my kids out during that time and I would allow them to proceed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would I would be shocked if we had anybody and I think you guys listening and watching to this would go oh yeah that would be kind of oh it would be dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that would be unkind for us, that would be irresponsible of us, that would be almost inhumane of us, to see something that we are not only responsible for, but that we care about deeply about to make a very, very, very bad decision slash dangerous decision that could be life altering for everybody forever, to think that we won't interject because we don't want to cause any unnecessary stress during that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: let that sink in for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're talking about here, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now let's back up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now of course, every correction and every opportunity we have as a dog owner or trainer isn't going to be life or death.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, what I have seen as an expert in behavioral training over the last 13 years has been

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[SPEAKER_00]: The dogs without structure balance, discipline and corrections are some of the most reactive anxious, aggressive dogs I have ever worked with clinically, like on paper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of times, it's because people have red things online that said, oh, I, I, I was told I should never correct my dog because it'll make things worse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I usually go, why, why is, what's the logic?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the logic of not interjecting and intervening and disrupting something that you care about deeply and somebody you care about deeply?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, because they'll be stressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How stressed are you when you can't walk your dog?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're waking up at 3 a.m. to walk your dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your dog is turning around and biting your leg, turning around and biting your family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, getting loose and biting the other dog or the other person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you have a lawsuit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might have to put your dog down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How much stress is that on a scale of 1 to 10?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably an 8 to 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say, personally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: your dog acting like a complete lunatic unwarranted towards anything and your nervous about interjecting there is the same equivalence to somebody that's just about to run over your foot and you're just you don't want to say anything because you don't want to freak the person out that's about to do it that makes no sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you need to step in and say what you're doing, the amount of stress that you are causing currently is completely off the charge and outrageous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to give you a clear clean, concise,

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[SPEAKER_00]: correction to disrupt and to discourage the behavior that you're causing, the behavior that you're doing that's causing an immense amount of stress to a point where we have to either put you down or you're going to severely hurt somebody or we just let the rest of our life and stress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when we think about this objectively,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think this is a bipartisan issue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that there is a select few of people who are so outlandish with reality that they would rather see the dog live a life of severe stress and anxiety than give a momentary piece of information that could be aversive, corrective, stressful to then have sustainable results for the dog to live a happier life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For example, and again, I have footage of this, we'll put one example out of hundreds we have on the website, so you guys can see this in real time, where we correct the dog for behavior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then the dog doesn't do the behavior anymore with the trigger still right there and then we reward the dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've taken this really extremely stressful thing and turned it into a positive thing for the dog and as far as an association circumstance where the dog actually understands and can breathe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for an example, this is typically how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dog comes in super reactive barking and lunging at every person and every dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We correct the dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We say, Hey, we don't like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is stressful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't appropriate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is causing an immense amount of stress and energy and even money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this right here needs to stop when you blow this candle out right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're done with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This can't happen any longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with this reaction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with this stress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with this reactivity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done with not being able to walk you with with with with confidence and pride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're done with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We correct the dog, which correction, replace correction with communicate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We communicate with the dog that what they're doing isn't appropriate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We stop them, we snap them out of it, stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is unacceptable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The dog looks he and goes, holy crap, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that they just barked at passes again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The dog passes again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At that point in time, the dog has an opportunity now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what I see nine times at a ten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The air, the air,

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[SPEAKER_00]: For the first time in their life, they didn't react.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They thought, they think, they process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden, now they're getting paid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting treats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting loved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting affection by the person they love the most, which is you, the dog owner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they go, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This whole reaction thing, I don't like it because the correction happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mom and dad get mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But alternatively, and also, and by the way, if I don't bark and react in act like a fool,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And actually who is that dog who is that person?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I trust them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: and you start to see the dog actually discover other people and other dogs for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this beautiful catalyst of punishing, correcting, discouraging, interrupting, whatever you want to call it happens for a momentary piece of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, it's going to be uncomfortable for the dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need anybody to give me a piece of paper that says, you know what, Tom, this study,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tells me that if you correct a dog it's stressful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no duh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need a study to tell me that my dog likes beef liver either When you go off the road the rambleships don't sing you a lullaby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's abrupt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's abrasive We want you to wake up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want you to stop what you're doing and think and get back to safety When a kid's running around with a knife, we don't say come back little to me We need to have a talk

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We assertively run over and take danger away from the thing that we love immediately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The kid's crying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a hero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just save the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm I'm just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want, so again, anybody listening and watching to this, I don't want this to be a dig at anybody at all because I honestly don't watch any other dog trainers, except three of my friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this isn't in response to anything, this isn't a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Statement publicly about a representative of balanced dog training.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just me as a guy as a person who's been training dogs for a long time And I'm sick of dog owners getting lied to and I'm sick of dog owners getting misled and I'm sick of the misinformation And I'm sick of dogs getting put down I'm sick of dogs going on medication when they don't need to I'm sick of dogs not being able to be walked That's what I'm sick of and it really points down to a lot of different things is misjudication

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys listen to my podcast and you watch my videos, you'll hear a lot of my clients start off by saying, I tried to reward my dog for bad behavior and it didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to reward my dog for bad behavior and it didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, did you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you understand what you're actually saying right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you gave your kids cupcakes every time they did something wrong and you're scratching your head and why it's not working and you're confused and why this person you just pay that's a professional is not yielding results.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not rocket science.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is critical thinking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is logical, critical thinking as a human being, to say, when my dog reacts and tries to bite another person or another dog, I think I should step in and do something about this assertively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I should disrupt this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Tom, you should just go over there and pay your dog when they don't react.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what about when they do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wake up, like this is reality, we don't live in a bubble, like Sandy Cheeks on SpongeBob.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish we did, you know, much easier my life would be as a pro dog trainer if we just lived in a bubble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm a practitioner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually working with dogs who have a bite history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually working with dogs who have gone to court that may be put down if we can't figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I come into the situation at no point in time, have they ever told the dog what they're doing is wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and again, there's probably going to be people out there that are going to take this video and take it out of context.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's going to be different political parties taking this and probably bashing me for talking about how, inhumane I am and how crazy I am and how out of touch I am with science, I don't, I think reasonably every human being

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is just basic critical thinking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When a dog is doing something that we absolutely don't want and is dangerous and it's causing more stress to the dog than anything else on the planet continually and you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are not avoiding that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are not running away from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are hitting that head on and we are making that we are disrupting that at all costs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to stop doing this right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to learn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The amount of times dog owners relationships.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fundamentally, just unravel before them because of their lack of accountability is immense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You become the substitute teacher every single day for your dog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your dog walks all over you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you've given them no reason why they shouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've become a roommate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: your dog loves you, you have a great relationship to that degree, but your dog doesn't respect you, they don't listen to you and they certainly won't do what you want them to do when they want to do something they want to do because you've predicated your entire life off of cookies and treats and a facade of reality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why dogs are getting put down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why dog owners are returning dogs to the shelters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why really nice puppies go up to be monsters and then end up three or four or five other trainers is because of these reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very simple to understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know what you guys think in the comments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether you dig it or you hate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He love it or you hate it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, guys, thanks for listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We put videos out like this every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Love your dogs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Train them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give them boundaries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give them love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give them compassion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let them know when they're doing something wrong or dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: their life depends on it, your relationship depends on it, don't just let it go by, don't just ignore it, don't let your kids run around your house with scissors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yay, don't look the other way, ha, ha, ha, ha, nobra, take that shit seriously, that's dangerous, and you care about them, that's on you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CPS, yo, they're letting, like, kids are running in the street, where are their owners?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where are they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, they're back there, holding the tree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.

