[SPEAKER_01]: The liberal globalist order is on its brink and awakening a new conservative age.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Steve Turley, join me every day as we discover answers to today's toughest challenges and explore the re-bondalization of conservative civilization.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey gang, it's me, Dr. Steve, you're a Patre professor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Today I'm away from the studio.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually in front of a room full of Patre.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pouring into people who are ready to fight for faith, family, and freedom, and their own communities.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of my favorite things I love to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I cannot let the day go by without walking with you too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So ahead of time, I sat down and recorded this conversation just for moments like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: that you're doing to push back and build something beautiful right where you are.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is part of a movement and it needs your voice in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You remember the 80s kids call to you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, since then, it's become ironic and then sadonic, and then suddenly, actually kind of subversive anti-western civilization, and so I can't stand letting my kids watch modern cartoons, because they're written by sarcastic millennia, who don't sincerely believe any good thing came out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it also kind of like, they don't recognise the innocence of childhood.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because in essence is one of those things where we all know that it's real and as soon as you lose it, you can never get it back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so protecting that is actually the, I mean, contributing to the wonder, the awe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this, this is what the, this is what the story of Santa Claus about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: The story of Santa Claus is the, the collective agreement that we actually consider the innocence of children.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one of the most important things in the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're here at Awakens Wonder and Us.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's lovely to see you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And everyone, every adult knows the cost of responsibility to make sure kids believe in the science.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you ever read Tolkien's letters to Santa Claus?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wrote it for his boy, his son, and I don't know where I came across, so I ordered it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The collection of, it's even kind of a, it's, its son would write letters to Santa, and so Tolkien would write back.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it even has a sort of tremor in the script to let me come look old.
[SPEAKER_01]: to for and he talks about the North Pole and the rain there and it's not letters, it's letters from Santa Claus, yeah, but absolutely wonderful.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want, before I leave, I got to get the state of play on UK politics right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going from wonder to another here.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we got a little bit of a row going on with Russell and Nigel.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm noticing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we got Russell.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got Rupert, Rupert, Rupert, Rupert, Lowe and Nigel Farage.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: So here's what a Yankee scene from across the pond.
[SPEAKER_01]: For the first time in our lifetimes, you have a party that is not
[SPEAKER_01]: on top, wow, paradigm shift, amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, yeah, it seems to be kind of led by a little bit of a show, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how to put Nigel.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know I've listened to some of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have a Rupert Lowe who appeared, I mean, I think he did eat a resign from the party.
[SPEAKER_01]: He got kicked out of the butt.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he seemed, if I'm,
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know if I'm right.
[SPEAKER_01]: He seems to be more of the soul of the part where the people are, where is Nigel is more the salesmen for this new party so that the powers that be salesmen, for this new party, to the powers that be to kind of give them permission to come up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now that's a great description and the problem is it seems to be a character defect in the 19th of itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: So now I've been in politics for 30 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a good leader after 30 years in politics should have hundreds and hundreds of allies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: You would think, you know, he's been doing this for literally decades, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Donald Trump,
[SPEAKER_00]: accumulated this kind of cohorts of people very, very quickly, you know, during this first run and presidency, you could see that he was very new to this.
[SPEAKER_00]: You had unreliable people around.
[SPEAKER_01]: No friends quite well.
[SPEAKER_00]: No friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he hadn't had time to build this up.
[SPEAKER_00]: But actually, I mean, one thing Republican should probably do is send Joe Biden a letter saying, thanks for sleeping in 2020.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because this gave this gave Trump a time in the world, yes,
[SPEAKER_01]: Bill.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he brought on a great coalition of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: RFK, Tulsi and all the others.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've brought on this great music.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's just such a good coalition.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but also, you know, like Rubio's doing a great job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never thought Rubio had this in him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was going to be a base at Conservative.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about a multi-polar world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we've reviewed this, and yeah, he's brilliant, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And so Trump has built this wonderful coalition of highly capable people who in that own rights are really capable people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Nigel Fris is got the opposite direction of this and I said, look, I don't want anyone to threaten my position as the headgemon of the right wing and Britain, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's built a very narrow coalition of the S-man.
[SPEAKER_00]: and so he's got this ivory tower where all around him there's very capable people who he keeps arms late for what they have nothing to do with.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this makes his position very fragile and it means that, like for example, in the last election.
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't really know that he was going to do as well as he did because he'd never been to come and he'd never been an MP before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And people in Britain like, yeah, we'll send radicals, you know, five brands to Brussels.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't give them help.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for our part, I'm going to take this a lot more serious.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so for I was one five seats and one of those was a guy called Rupert Lowe and Rupert Lowe is a known property, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's in the self-made multi-millionaire businessmen, he'd owned Southampton Football Club for a decade or so during the 90s So he's a good public speaker, you know, he's a professional.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been at the top of society for all this time And he seems to be genuinely a really good guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's been married for like 35 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got four children.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: What, you know, mother of his children, you know, he don't exist salary to his constituency in great amount of every month and So like five or six grand or what it happened to this, you know, he's not right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm gonna put an answer with local charity And he actually spends time doing the work because that's another thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's easy for an MP.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's just do nothing Right, but he actually takes It goes and sees this constituents and they say I've got a problem with, you know, this thing in my garden or something It being blocked by this building.
[SPEAKER_00]: He saw him your support, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So it actually do the work
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he built up in a really short period of time.
[SPEAKER_00]: We were a lot of goodwill in his own constituency.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in parliamentary reform party, you get these things called written notes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can write a particular official note to the government to get them to answer the question.
[SPEAKER_00]: We really have to answer the question.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a good way of forcing the government to account.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the AK statement on this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's not like.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nigel Frasers done this 20 times.
[SPEAKER_00]: You put low and done this 900.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: And my loop at Rho finds out, loop at Rho finds out he's getting kicked out of the party.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's currently in a fundraiser, raising money for the party and he's like, oh, you've been kicked out of him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so this whole thing was predicated on what seemed to be a bunch of false allegations about bullying in his office.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's so it's a tone kind of law fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's worse than that.
[SPEAKER_01]: If it was like, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: normal, that would be fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we've got something called the Equality Act of 2010, which is the feminist.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it does not sound good.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's exactly not, it's exactly not, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the equal for you, not for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the allegations are basically rupert loads of sensitive enough to some female staff as feelings in his office.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they've accused them of bullying under the Equality Act, and it's a massive mess because he's done nothing wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done nothing, of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's very clear that he's done nothing wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: And loads of loads of this staff came out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like, no, loop it loads not bullying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not about bullying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's about it's not being sympathetic enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these two women who made these allegations were on disciplinarys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they...
[SPEAKER_00]: Violated data breach laws, so they'd like you know shared data and whatever it's very messy But it was like he had not really done anything and they probably should have been fired for what they'd done right right right They're being you know being investigated from gross misconduct themselves Yeah, but Nigel and Zia use it clearly saw this as an ideal opportunity to get rid of Get rid of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: We just group at low is more right wing than Nigel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes That's what it looks like look.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have had a massive problem in this country with Pakistani rape You're right or mine
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's been something that the establishment is afraid of dealing with, and the problem is, many people in this community know about this happening and did nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, said nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and Rupert knows that we need to get rid of these guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, over 30 years, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: It was more than 20 years back to the 70s, but it was much smaller scale problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Rupert knows all of these guys have to be deported.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they've never come for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the people who knew about it in their communities have to be kind of chaos, so get up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can go, they will complicit, you know, and these ethnically motivated rape gang children.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I use hard to think of a worse crime.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the numbers are beyond, we don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't get the highest was a million.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a labor and hate for Robert, who said, Sarah Champion, who said that it could be up to a million girls.
[SPEAKER_00]: traffic to rate.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did a video on it with our audience was like what the heck it's it's Jin genuinely horrific.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Rupert Lowe's currently fundraising for his reform obviously promised the National Association of Rights nothing happened because it's Nigel Frars who would be the one doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rupert Lowe's been kicked out of the party and he was like no I'm still going to do this National inquiry so he's currently fundraising.
[SPEAKER_00]: for the National Employee.
[SPEAKER_00]: He raised some like quarter of a million in the first day or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: To actually perform the inquiry, which is super, you know, so we might actually get some more in a some proper information about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the point is, it, Rupert has been needing from the front.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, I'm going to do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to the other.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nigel always leads from the rear.
[SPEAKER_00]: He always waits for the safe, you know, so it's safe to go in and occupy the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then he goes in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone else has taken the bonus.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so Nigel, and he's done this over and over and over.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's literally got dozens and dozens of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: These Koreans, he essentially destroyed, letting them stand up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then cut the wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cut the legs out from under there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he can move in.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's it's very gross.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like bringing it up, but it is true.
[SPEAKER_00]: And lots of these people are very angry and mental.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Rupert Low was kind of the worst person to do this to because he had an MP, he had a large public probe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he seems to basically be a saint.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He seems to be the very strong following, very strong support, very loyal supporters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he himself seems to be quite a virtuous man, you know, he actually seems to do the right for the right reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the right results.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nigel is kind of stubbornness too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Nigel stepped on a rake with this, because normally when he did this, Nigel's public presence was enough to overall, whoever he'd done this to, and then just, you know, slip into obscurity.
[SPEAKER_00]: But those are a lot more like that because they've come off to the group, are you sure you're going to do this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I make no apologies for any of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the moral thing to do and we're going to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if we put low start something wonderful, you know, I can't wait to support it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Nigel for us has been stalling in the polls.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, so he got up to 27%.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now he stands like 24%.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, he's going down, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so Nigel thought we could do all of this on his own.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it stands like he can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: He can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's kind of declared war on his own base.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a very silly disaster.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a good for the right in person, but it might be one of those things that's necessary.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just have to work it exactly with the paradigm shift.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're never, they're never clean and you just go, I mean, look at Trump the first, the first term.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then 2020, of course.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, but,
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we are eight years later.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, when we were still four years out from another like yeah, so you're right You're right reform was only founded in 2020.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know it's incredible.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so you know So you know something new can pop up and take hold so yeah, who knows, but I like the situation in Britain
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, it's tough, it's the, that's the route of political paralysis that just plagues it with.
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially when you come to America and say, yeah, Trump's great, it's like, I know, I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't want to admit it, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right,
[SPEAKER_01]: I heard it put that in the post World War II, the ground zero for liberal globalism was Europe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Europe was going to create a political and economic system that belonged to everyone because it belonged to no one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the sacrifice, your culture, your sacrifice, your identity, and every country was doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: on the other side of the Berlin Wall.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you exported it to the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: They tried it for a while, and then there was this massive blowback.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now the only place on the planet that's embracing a non-identitarian, you know, political, economic system.
[SPEAKER_01]: is you're a, they sacrifice their culture for a geopolitical order that is pushed them back and now what do you left with?
[SPEAKER_01]: So so by God's grace is that we're going to, we're going to see, we're going to see, we're going to see a correction in that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now the, the whole purpose of it has been rejected.
[SPEAKER_01]: You wanted a global system.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're now civilizationless.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's time
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the best way to describe it, and I think as well, a lot of this is, I don't want to blame America because it's really our own moral weakness that has allowed this to happen, but America has a very strong integration of this ideology.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a strong tradition, there's a plan, if you come to America, we have a plan for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we can announce it at this very, very clearly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Europe doesn't have that, because America, you could say, oh, it's a civic
[SPEAKER_00]: project, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a particular constitution, there's a particular civic identity, and there's a particular set of norms that you follow to join, and all Americans recognize you, as an Americans, if you follow these norms.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Europe's the old world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: The old world is built on ethnicity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tribal status.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and so we don't have that history.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we like, what are we supposed to do, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, well, not everyone can become an English person, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But since we become an Englishman through her editor, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And here it comes, I can't become French ever, you know, because my parents were friends.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, my wife from Japan, I can't ever become Japanese, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: My children, if I married a Japanese woman, he could have been right.
[SPEAKER_01]: They can do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, we don't have the same person, since the person I did to the new world, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: So, the new world, like,
[SPEAKER_00]: not imposing but like we import this from the new world and this and it's a very liberal perspective and it's like it just doesn't work for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are civilization people as you call it and I think you're exactly right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who the best man.
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