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[SPEAKER_00]: Today we're continuing our coverage of the word bears, with a focus largely in the fall of the Legion and loregar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Calling out right now, the vast majority has come from a single novel called The First Heritage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: $46.48, Moroccan do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Morocco's a fun country.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think twice now.
[SPEAKER_00]: They rose to power in the middle ages.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to the black plague.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go team.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's actually always been a city though even before that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It goes back to effective in dawn of humanity because being the base of the Atlas mountains.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just very fertile.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got the things that kind of matter like water and food.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those are kind of nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can build shelter there if they're decently wells.
[SPEAKER_00]: Morocco is great, it's food's fantastic, especially on Fridays where they make the couscous, which I think is gluten free pod.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just know I like Tajine as you can't eat it that sucks and I don't think he would bout you Tajine's really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the inclusive is gluten free.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might not be though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he won't Google it, so someone was supposed to help us out.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know those wagons, it's all I need.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see what this bite of food does to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've chosen poorly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think my Morocco is the people are super nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say staying in hotels there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never seen that level of service.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is they are remarkably polite, remarkably kind.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really is just a great place to kind of relax and enjoy yourself.
[SPEAKER_00]: The drinking situations a little bit odd because it's not illegal, but you have to do it like Utah style where you have to be behind a wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like all the bars have like blackout windows on them, so you can go to the bar, but it feels like you shouldn't be in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anna, it's my night, I think, well, I just heard a bunch of like, I'll just stop drinking.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, I had a thought of, whoa, those are fighting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where it's my friend, you get a stop drinking.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me let you have a secret drinking in a country where like 95% of people don't drink the alcohol in taste that good.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at a certain point you go, you know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just as a worth it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that'll take that to the other side.
[SPEAKER_01]: All alcohol tastes great after a certain point of night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like, I don't go.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like going to an art museum in Ohio.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, you can't even name them all off of justice.
[SPEAKER_01]: I won't give you this for those of us that've seen Alan on history of 40 K. Alan has a rule.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I come to us house.
[SPEAKER_01]: We drink good stuff in the beginning and then he goes I'm not wasting my money on you and they'll need it tonight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that tracks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will tell a fun story about Morocco, so I was there, and I want to give them the Atlas Mountains that was in Madochesh, and so the trip from Madochesh to mountains, you have two choices.
[SPEAKER_00]: Spend a bunch of money on a plane, so that wasn't going to happen, or write a bus.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I figured, sure, let's write a bus.
[SPEAKER_00]: What could go wrong?
[SPEAKER_00]: And what I got on to is best described as the vomit comment because this bus, the trip from Madakesh to the Atlas Mountains is a massively windy road, brutally windy road driven by a bus driver who just didn't care is the best way to explain it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And about 30 minutes and do it the first few people started going down the motion sickness.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fun thing about people vomiting on a bus is it doesn't take long for the whole bus to begin to smell like vomit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And at a certain point, the everyone is just getting sick.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I had headphones in my head down just to try and not lose it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you have halfway there, the bus just stops at this like, well, ref stop, and everyone piles out of this thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: People are almost in tears leaning on the side of this bus, because they're just, I mean, these are about like, not just the foreigners.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are people are local.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this monster of a bus driver,
[SPEAKER_00]: walks off the bus, walks into the rest up, and comes out to eating a sandwich, like it's nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: People are like green and the fetal position on the ground outside, and he's just looking at
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of you people, but once I got out there to the Atlas Mountains, that's visually spin stunning.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the top things I've seen in my life is being just the way that they come down.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sun sets.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got the desert for a little bit too absolutely incredible area.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're looking for a place to visit, I know we have a lot of European listeners.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've probably been in Morocco, but anyone who hasn't been there, do you have a shot?
[SPEAKER_00]: Really fun country.
[SPEAKER_00]: You go to a cost of block, I would take you to think sucked, but that's a side note.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get into word bears.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we left off last time, Lordgar has just taken control of his legion, and he just met his God, who very plainly told him he wasn't a God, to which Lordgar told him that only the true Messiah drove his eyes just affinity.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I will worship you twice this hard now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are rocking and rolling, and then to make things better,
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar is not alone.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got two buddies within between his really f*** father or corfer on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And although at this point, corers just kind of another idiot, he's spent most of his life.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm knowingly worshiping chaos gods and they've never actually spoken to him because the chaos gods really see it was just too dumb and weak to actually be their champion.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they've been guiding him because they were going to use him to do other stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where core fairons kind of he was a pawn.
[SPEAKER_00]: He thought he was like a rookies, but he's a pawn, yeah, he's a super pawn.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a me into an end so they get to look at him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but core thought he was like, rookies, bishop, like nope, he's pawn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Core has made himself, Lorgar's closest advisor and spiritual guide, but at this stage, Core is more of a follower of Lorgar than a leader of Lorgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got some influence, but he has not lost his thirst for power, and he doesn't really have a reason to divert Lorgar to a path that will benefit Core Ferran, but he's always looking for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Unlike Erebus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Aribus on the flip side, once 1,000% knows what's going on, and he is working overdrive on a rather grand plan of something, so I, the thing is that Aribus is the architecture of the worst-aircy, and as much as I, I hate him in the best possible way, because I think
[SPEAKER_01]: at being awful and making me want to hate him because he's just so wildly hevel from the beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's all in on chaos and doing terrible shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he gets away with most of his plans.
[SPEAKER_01]: This dude will legitimately is the most successful bad guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to set it up and I'm like, and how about this?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's one of the most successful bad guys at 40K universe.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's plenty of people that are obviously bigger names than everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy is...
[SPEAKER_01]: gets a lot done.
[SPEAKER_00]: He causes the left and wide stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here's the there is a debate around arabos and the debate around arabos is he playing for the chess where he is to but Brent said that he is he actually architect.
[SPEAKER_00]: of the Horace Heresy, or is he just one of the catalysts of it?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the argument people make about Arabists is that he was just constantly doing stuff all the time all over the place and then claiming victory when it would work out.
[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of it didn't work out.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was constantly trying to influence anyone and everyone everywhere around him.
[SPEAKER_00]: and eventually he did hit on a few plans, but there is, because it's a debate, just people know people have of was there a business clever or was it just he's throwing a lot of spaghetti at the wall and some of it stuck?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll let you all determine that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is, that's what it, that is a question on Airbus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Arabis did though know a few things.
[SPEAKER_01]: First, I am just absolutely to think about this, but I still think that he can be both, can he not?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was trying to do all those things.
[SPEAKER_00]: The question is, was he actually this incredible evil genius or was he just a catalyst, because he was always doing evil stuff?
[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually you do not have the evil stuff and you'll have an influence, it belongs on die.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was kind of the point.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a debate.
[SPEAKER_00]: It goes back and forth on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was something I was reading.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, yeah, that's actually a fair point.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to put it in here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So people know that debate exists.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is arabic note?
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is what's important about arabic.
[SPEAKER_00]: arabic is a massively critical character.
[SPEAKER_00]: arabic is the reason, by the way, that the word bears cast are going to go forecast.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's because of arabic.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, we can usually do almost all of our faction coveragees are three.
[SPEAKER_00]: This one's going to go to four, and it's because of arabic.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's just so much stuff he does if I couldn't jam any another wise.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Arabus knows that the emperor will succeed if left to his own devices.
[SPEAKER_00]: The emperor was and actually still is more powerful than each chaos God.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, at the time, wasn't, but I would actually argue it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then the current 40 days, he might be more powerful than all four of them combined.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cause he has been powering up for 10,000 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because we've been feeding him with, you know, hilarious souls of humanity for 10,000 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this will help.
[SPEAKER_00]: The narrative is how it's real.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the question is that in the 30th millennia, the emperor's terrifying to chaos, because the L.D.R.
[SPEAKER_00]: member are gone and what's left of them is hiding from Slonesh.
[SPEAKER_00]: The great crusade is going to unify humanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: And while life under the imperium is not great, they're great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not great.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, actually, to be fair, unless it's the 13th legion, it kind of is kind of as we put away 10 minutes in and we had to have an ultra marines are awesome reference.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're on track.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that what happens is if the Emperor pulls off his two main moves, chaos is done.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he wants to do the web way project.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there'd be no more warp travel.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why he's doing no access.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if he posts with the webweight project, the fact is that he does wild, less humans risking themselves in the work, but also interact with the war.
[SPEAKER_01]: His plan is still a wacky plan as far as just pretending that chaos doesn't exist, so humans won't interact with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it'll work though, so the thing out the webweight project is...
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I'm inferring something here, but I can infer it pretty well, given past activities.
[SPEAKER_00]: The emperor was going to make a web way, and then he was going to snuff out all the sikers, all the navigators, all the astronauts, they're just kills all of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every siker, every child born a siker, tell it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We know he was going to do that, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know where he was.
[SPEAKER_00]: No way, his plans are always nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that but the chaos knows this this is that his whole thing and he's also going hard into science Which does make me think if you have anything to South Park episode where Cartman goes into the future because he must get a we At release and then it's all like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the reviewers or river otters.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was something it was quite funny But mixing that
[SPEAKER_00]: Aribus knows that the emperor pulls this off will effectively starve the chaos gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: They won't have enough defeat them and then the emperor could and the theory go kill them.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you wanted to, he could just go, they're weak enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: He could probably enter the immatarium, psychically, and kill the gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's not ideal for the chaos gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now, at the same time, the chaos doesn't have a strong hold yet on the material.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking to you, 30K.
[SPEAKER_00]: What worlds they did have access to were like Colchis, where the people were worshiping a dark god, but didn't realize what they were doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if they did think, even once you were more like murder, Coltis, still didn't understand what chaos was at that level, like we had more modern 40 chaos worshiping demon world, doesn't exist to this era, because there's not enough power to manifest that the demons on their own world.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem with that means is that the forces of chaos do not have an army.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have no way to fight the emperor in the material.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if the emperor's viewpoint is, I just want enter the immaterial, you're screwed.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, arabas has to figure out a way to convert an army in the material to a chaos god.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this because of the fact that they're like, well,
[SPEAKER_01]: you owe us some armies because you stole from us in the first place, which is all of the ways to make the primaries in everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably not.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is still one of my favorite things.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an offshoot, but like the fact that the effort met with the four chaos guns and went, I double swear that I'm going to totally be legit if you give me this information.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then
[SPEAKER_01]: I had I think it's grassy later.
[SPEAKER_00]: I still stand by all the chaos guys are like why is this guy here talking to us?
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't even respond.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like hey, by the way, how do I make a warp being?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's told him because they were just still so stunned.
[SPEAKER_00]: How are you in my house?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's all this was.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the best example is a scrooge.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are hanging out.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're having a vivid dream where I fit the name of the guy who was just dead body, who met him and he was sleeping or the busy of the ghost.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's effectively what this was in reverse.
[SPEAKER_00]: The chaos got to hang out in the warp kind of forming.
[SPEAKER_00]: Slonette, she's like, mid-meal on an L-dark.
[SPEAKER_00]: And all of a sudden, there's a dude standing there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, hey, what's up, guys?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's some information from you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is this real?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, oh yeah, peace out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry, I'm totally gonna take care of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Leave, make a good.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, but let's get that to Lord God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Colchese was converted over to basically the first ever shrine world of the Imperium.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do kind of wonder how close it was to later version.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it is, well, in the sense of like, like, how close the architecture was.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that, that I'm saying, I think they've said that.
[SPEAKER_01]: What you cookies is that,
[SPEAKER_01]: again, he's the first prophet, even though they don't talk about it, get it, everybody to talk about his book, but also this is very close on this is the first shrine world, and it has
[SPEAKER_01]: architecture and themes and everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: The shrine worlds will use for the next 11,000 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not wrong in what happened.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at the Ecclesiarchy right today, they follow what he was saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he has a big, a bad guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he wasn't doing bad guy stuff according the Ecclesiarchy right.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, the police are cute with what a greedy was doing to pretty bad guy stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole here be this wasn't bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: These setting up worship of the Emperor currently in the beginning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's fair.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in the beginning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, in the very beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a long time of doing this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, technically correct is the best kind of correct because he wasn't wrong in the Emperor's a god.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was just wrong about.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Lorgar has got a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar's thing is he assumes that the emperor is this super special god who is going to deliver the galaxy from darkness.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was close.
[SPEAKER_00]: Any in the thing is he gets away with stuff for a little bit because he doesn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: openly say that the emperor is a god to other people for a bit and then he embraces.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he does is the best example I use for Lord Gart is it's a middle schooler with a secret.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the whole secret for short period of time and then begins telling everyone the secret.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at first, Lord God keeps his faith to himself and core-faring therapists.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a circle of trust guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he and the Legion, they go and they do prosecute worlds and destroy any and all idolatry there.
[SPEAKER_00]: While doing it through a they carry this greater purpose in their actions.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Lord God, for example, he's not one of the better fighters, the most of the primarx, but he's the worst by a mile.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And some of the primarx seconds
[SPEAKER_00]: trapping people's elbows on him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just being awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he may have been the best orator after Gilliman.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just calling it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, after Horace, really Horace's literal primar power is powerful charisma.
[SPEAKER_00]: was it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, didn't seem that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he became a resource master in half the galaxy on his side.
[SPEAKER_01]: That seems like a pretty convincing sales pitch dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Didn't have to, I remember it's got the half the galaxy on his side.
[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't do anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I continue on, you know what I'm doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gilman on the other hand founded a new Imperium.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in a little section of nowhere, they'll get the Toledo of the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: So burn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Mcgreg is not the Toledo of the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me help you out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nocturn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nocturn is the Toledo of the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I'm being mean in nocturn.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kept, just messing it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the issue, Laura the was very intelligent and what he did realizes he just taken over a legion about a hundred thousand of star days, most of whom believed there are no gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he came from a world where everyone knew there was a God.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Lord God had just met him.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Lord God had to figure out a way to twist the beliefs of his lesion to match what he wanted.
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't bring these very subtle ways.
[SPEAKER_00]: So first, while they're causing worlds and destroying the idolatry,
[SPEAKER_00]: he changed it a little bit and it was before it was because the emperor said so the emperor said we have to do this and all right fine the emperor said that the story of all that daughter we're going to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But now I'm going to shift you guys over to actually make this campaign of destroying idolatry a holy campaign.
[SPEAKER_00]: In effect the word of the emperor
[SPEAKER_00]: we have to follow it obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: So in effect, but Lord God in the Legion, he's teaching the Legion to be secular religious.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all this is.
[SPEAKER_00]: You worship the Emperor like a king, but it's more like a god like a king.
[SPEAKER_00]: So
[SPEAKER_00]: Over time though, as Lord Garb begins calling as in worlds, he starts focusing not to bring them into the Imperium logistically, but more theatratically.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is, as the Legion shifts, he's also getting a lot more neophytes coming up from Colchi, so the Legion itself is shifting, and he's intentionally throwing a lot of the Terranborn wordbearers into combat.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot of like very heavy intent here to shift the Legion over.
[SPEAKER_00]: What Lorgar's thing, though, is that his, the way he next kind of combats this is by adding in the theocracy, he does it by saying, look, imperial ties, they're kind of cute and fine, but people need to understand why they're supporting the imperial.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just like a trade federation, like we have in Star Trek, the idea here is that you are giving your imperial ties because in doing so, you're
[SPEAKER_00]: In order to help you, you are going to as a planet, give this imperial tithe, that imperial tithe is going to go to the imperial.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the imperial is going to make the galaxy a better place because of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm going to give this, I use, I throw a lawyer under the bus quite a bit, because I love and hate my certain primarx and certainly just everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also played word bears, well, a little more a while, actually, but one of the things that
[SPEAKER_01]: we're getting into him getting censored later.
[SPEAKER_01]: But his words were wildly loyal to the content.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and this is because going back to the core fair on in our last test, core fair on got kicked out because of the whole, we don't ask for converts.
[SPEAKER_00]: you convert.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he taught this, so Lord God, Lord God is going to plan it into the point you just made.
[SPEAKER_00]: The idea is, I'm not leaving this planet till all of you are all in on this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're not doing it just as brother.
[SPEAKER_01]: You said all of you, when I said all of you, I meant
[SPEAKER_00]: All of you, the, well, air population needs to be, let me, I think heavy at that.
[SPEAKER_00]: The entire population when we leave the planet are going to be on board.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because these are seven foot tall, 700 pound guys and power armor explaining the situation.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're welcome to say, well, I doesn't want to make a lot of sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: and you'll get any more words after that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when they left the planet, everyone on the planet was doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's kind of like the Vinny Jones scene where he's saying, I want you to sing the Manchester United fight song.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you just sing?
[SPEAKER_00]: My baby takes the morning train because that's what you do with these moments.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go time guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem though is that this reeducation program that they launched.
[SPEAKER_00]: doesn't go quickly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And about mid crusade, there was a, uh, we're caught quarterly review happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I don't, I don't say don't, everyone of these worlds has to look cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, they're not looking, they're me, they're me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: That has nothing to do with anything, but I did my wife's going to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, when we were, when we were getting ready for the word bearing's cast, I kept thinking, yeah, he gets in trouble for this and he takes too long and he's not taking in off the timeline that he's supposed to be keeping his way behind, but every time you go one of these worlds, you have to be taking a back a little bit and go, all right, Lord, you're way behind schedule, but also, wow, this place is cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the problem is that there is a, we do quarterly and media reviews and the mid crusade review wasn't great for Lord Garland needs improvements under goals achievements, although sets a new bar for enthusiasm, definitely sets a new bar on a reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did, but basically, he did not have to go back to his worlds.
[SPEAKER_00]: How about that?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And fun story on that, he's about to come up again, because Glorgar gets a note saying you got HR wants to have a chat, and your boss is going to be there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, your boss is a dick.
[SPEAKER_00]: So word bearers,
[SPEAKER_00]: At some point, we don't know when arrived in the world of Kerr, and they conquered for the Imperian, and they spent way too much time on Kerr building it up, and they're capital Monarchia, which translates literally to monarchy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good job, GW.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by in order to make them out of time, I mean, like Will Ferrell's attic in the Lego movie, like that level in order to mount a guide.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they did the monarchy, it wasn't sane.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you haven't seen Lego movie
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Monarchia is the word bears best work.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a city built in the worship of the emperor is perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know where the word bears get a note saying, all of you go to occur now, specifically monarchia and no exceptions whole region by the emperor.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they get there and they're boss, the head of HR.
[SPEAKER_01]: Back it up, though, because we got to set this up a little bit better, because they think they consider monarchy the perfect city, the thing, the best thing they've ever done.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cynical of the word bears, while the works that they've done so far, this is the gem.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what the Imperium should be.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where you worship the emperor,
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why they're there though, but also because this is a known thing that they feel this is their crowning achievement right here so far.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but they get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean there's some this is why it hurts so bad though This is hurt there.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is man for that It happens a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but the whole thing is the not going to go well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying this is your favorite thing your favorite toy
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, they get there and their boss, the head of HR and the Kant Presence Club winner are all there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Emperor, Nalkador, and Gilman and the Ultramarines, tell me which one of those statements is incorrect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mario, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and Monarchia is smoldering.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is gone because the Ultramarines had just sacked it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What they did evacuate at first, because I'm like the Salamander is they don't just murder innocent civilians for no reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, get out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is a big deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, again, I actually think that this is, we shouldn't be in prayer about bandecisions one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually think that this was a wild mistake by him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: this is a huge, you see how Lord Ari is.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was different ways to do something about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt that this was heavy handed.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good story because this is right where he goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: There we have he ended.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, the whole Legion arrives including Lorgar and HR starts his whole like diet type of corporate policies and how the word bears and failed to meet either goals in the last few quarters and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And after all that the Emperor just goes off and the first thing he does is he's psychically forces the entire Legion, including Lorgar to and me.
[SPEAKER_00]: and then such as burrating them about how they failed him, their progress in the crusade is a joke, their conquering not enough worlds, and also I told you not to do this pointing at all of the relationship and the idolatry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so basically he does a whole
[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently it wasn't clear enough before.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it is now because next time there's not going to be in next time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he releases them.
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole league just starts to rise up, but Lorgar stays kneeling and this next bit's not ideal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's just so mentally taken a back by it and some of the other legionaires go to help him up.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of them being damn it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Artletal.
[SPEAKER_00]: As he's doing that, Gilliman tells him to grow the F up basically.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is like again.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Huge misstep from your boy.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I like what happens next.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lord Garg gets super upset about that jumps up and actually attacks Gilliman.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Raising rest played in a half.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gilliman just starts laughing and walks away.
[SPEAKER_00]: with a, like, I was cute, uh, get better for 12 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ten per 10.
[SPEAKER_01]: For your boy G, Dan and the emperor and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: How did you think this was going to go well?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they didn't think.
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I was that valuable.
[SPEAKER_01]: That why now I will hear something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will the guy that's unbelievable and converting over the masses.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, this will never back.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not on us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so here's what I say.
[SPEAKER_00]: The emperor, Nalkador, new better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gilman out defend here, because you're saying he's unbelievably good at converting over the masses, Gilman has converted 20 times the amount of worlds that Lordgar has, and they're all more loyal than Lordgar's worlds were.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got really rigid region of space, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: And which region of space is providing more to the Imperium?
[SPEAKER_00]: you, you say that they're all park.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting more supplies done as far as get fervent believers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lorgar's right here, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, Lorgar's my least favorite pride bar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have to think that even for what he's doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not given.
[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm saying from Gilliman's perspective, what I'm saying, if you're Gilliman, Gilliman is the not-bread-yest presence club winner of the, of the, of the, of the, of the registered state.
[SPEAKER_01]: with you go to these planets and you go every single one is full on fully converted religious zealots and you're like we're just going to take a sh** on this guy what could possibly happen hey man his worlds could be used against us instantaneously yeah the gentleman doesn't know about the warp he just know about the caskots but Gilliman knows is
[SPEAKER_00]: this guy and I were both given the same test.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I am like, I'm trying to wanting him to burn.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now he's all upset because the Emperor told him to grow up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just chastize the attempt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Psychically made us deal chastizes for what we were doing in the worship of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not hard to read the writing of the wall that some s*** gonna go down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, they do a great job of pretending that it's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, yep, we're all in all on board, ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're definitely not doing something else for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: This happens for a while too.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, look, well, let's get into what happens next, which is
[SPEAKER_00]: So the events of care, they're brutal on Lord God and the Legion, their God has just turned on them and destroyed the greatest veneration they had rebuilt to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: So to the Legionnaires of the Legion, it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: They all hate the Ultramarids for burning it down.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that they spared the citizen didn't seem to matter very much, which is weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, for Lord God, though, or it's much bigger.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, hey, man, I burnt your house down, but I also didn't burn your car down.
[SPEAKER_01]: You should be happy as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a piece of look.
[SPEAKER_00]: The emperor probably was like kill all the people, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the elders like, look, can we get Lee's man?
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe these guys are mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we took their pitting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they were really in disinteresting.
[SPEAKER_00]: My point is that they were mad at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were mad at Gilliman.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were the emperor in Malkador, which was like, really, we know who did this guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you are the guys, though?
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, if you're worshiping your guys, stuff to be mad at it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's well, Laura got a bit of discover that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Laura Carr, he's really messed up right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: He nearly was right that the emperor was a god.
[SPEAKER_00]: He read the scriptures.
[SPEAKER_00]: He read everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the Emperor just, this is not someone deserving of worship is what he decides.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because the Emperor is not a benevolent, uplifting being, he's bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so now, arabas gets the step in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Aribus has actually been speaking to Corferon for a bit of a saying, I would say, Corferon is definitely poisoning the well here.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's both in because Aribus, because Aribus is close to Lord Garb, but he's now closest to Corferon.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Aribus was actually poisoning Corferon.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm really poisoning Corferon, one at the place.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's kind of like, it's like me saying, Oh, John, you're poisoning, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: By giving him wine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I feel like you're phrasing there is not correct, but core fair on was just kind of more coming over to chaos because core fair didn't really understand what it was that even worshiping.
[SPEAKER_00]: And instead of one God, maybe there's God's plural, why don't you go have a chat with them?
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the two of them explained a lower guard, the real truth that is on Colchese, that Carferon basically tells him maybe the primordial truth, so Carferon does a couple things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Carferon actually admits the lower guard that he's been keeping a secret from it.
[SPEAKER_00]: all these worlds they've gone to and destroyed all of the idolatry, Corfaron has worked behind the scenes to protect pieces of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pieces that he recognized from Colchis, the truths that he believes existed.
[SPEAKER_00]: and because he wanted to make sure these things survive, because he knew that despite a desire to destroy them, you shouldn't, they are a real truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Laura, by the way, strangles him for this, and almost kills him and then realizes, part of who strangling is dad that, oh yeah, you actually were correct on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, core fair and an Arabist remind the Lord Gar of the Pilgrimage.
[SPEAKER_00]: ancient tale back on Colchese in which mythological mortals traveled to the realm of the gods, the sea gancers, and brought that back to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they say, and Lorgar says, you know what, I should go in this pilgrimage where I can land.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that because they give us the awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's also true.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, in a fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is now before I love that he's these
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, knowledge texts are correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's like, they're RKS gods.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can find out about it that you can go and worship them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And here is how to basically open up your third eye to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: So before we can tell you though, we have to talk about someone else who's going to matter in this cast and the next cast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Our Geltel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Argel Tau, born on Colchese, was actually personally recruited to the word bears by Arabists who wanted him to be a chaplain, because Arabists just saw something in Argel Tau.
[SPEAKER_00]: He knew that Argel Tau would be important, and the idea was, I'll bring you in, you're going to help me spread the true word.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, after converting over to a space marine, Argel Tau discovers he can fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can really fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he decides to default the path of the war or not the order, which causes a whole issue with him and arabas, like seriously, they actually get in the fight over it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Argal Cal gets promoted up to the rank of cap in the 7 company, which are the something sons.
[SPEAKER_00]: these guys, this is a jump pack, a salt force of the word bears.
[SPEAKER_00]: Surrated sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's the youngest warrior to ever do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wargar notices our Geltel.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they begin to have almost a friendship.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's not necessarily inner circle, but he's pretty close.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got influence coming in.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to let people know he's going to matter.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason he matters, he comes up a lot in this novel.
[SPEAKER_00]: as the word bears are getting ready to leave Monarchia.
[SPEAKER_00]: Argel sees something out, basically, in the wasteland desert, and it's a woman in the waist, and so he goes out 30, saves her.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she is beat up her name is Sairin, and she's going to be wildly important.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sairin was a, they actually grabbed some of the other survivors of Monarchia.
[SPEAKER_00]: The idea, though, they have is that we're going to save these people, but we're going to go back to Colchis, but before we do, they do this really goofy thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They go to this world 47-16.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's their first little maneuver of like, all right, because the Emperor told to go there, pacify this place, don't build temples.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they go there and they fight glass robot that shoot lightning.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm important.
[SPEAKER_01]: But let's do a real quick set of stage
[SPEAKER_01]: On the outside, they are full on a toning and trying to be this better region in the outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if this is all happening underneath, but yeah, and then what we are with the word, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the reason it's halting matters is they get the 47-16 and as they're pacifying 47-16, a bunch of custodes ships, well, you just, I think two ships translate it, and they get hailed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Aquilon is the head of this 20 custodes arrive on the bridge with lower guards say, oh yeah, we're here to watch you because the emperor didn't really think that you were going to listen to what he said.
[SPEAKER_00]: So hi, we're going to hang out with you everywhere you go going forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which is not really ideal for lower guards plan of going and talking to the chaos gods, the fact that there's now a bunch of custodes with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So plans got to change a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: How do they change the plan?
[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty simple.
[SPEAKER_00]: First, they go back to Colchese.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they do this under the guise of a resupply.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, they go back there and they bring within the survivors of Monarchia who are greeted by the people of Colchese as refugees and kind of profits, especially the women's siren.
[SPEAKER_00]: Siren, she becomes a lot more important soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Siren ends up actually making a full recovery and she's there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lord God then has a secret meeting with his legion while they're back on coal sheets and says, hey, we're going to go to the eye of terror, and I'm going to take part in the pilgrimage, but we're going to have to do a few other things first because we've got these shiny bananas with us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just heads up guys, so everyone kind of be cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: The next thing Lord Guard does is annoying as hell, because Magnus sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lord Guard reaches out to Magnus, because Lord Guard is a psycher, but he no one's a psycher, but he didn't Magnus.
[SPEAKER_00]: And
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, Magnus fully knows about the chaos god.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been talking to Zeech for like, I don't know, 300 years to support 200 years at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the same for a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very aware, very aware of Zeech, but Lordgar asks Magnus, hey, and all your little mental travels everywhere, have you encountered it that's kind of like a god?
[SPEAKER_00]: And Magnus,
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course said yes and there these super evil entities, they prey on the weakness of mortals and focusing only on greed and power.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should avoid them at all times.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he doesn't say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He dodges this question the way a parent dodges sex add questions and not ready for.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just it's purely how?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bees.
[SPEAKER_00]: Birds.
[SPEAKER_00]: I. Ooh.
[SPEAKER_00]: We want for dinner.
[SPEAKER_00]: that's effectively what happens here.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like that of these birds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those things effectively Magnus has a great opportunity here and flubs it as hard as you can possibly flub it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar then grabs his legion and then siren joins because she joins as a lead confessor, which means she's about to get a lot of access to Lorgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: They begin to crusade and he claims, hey, we're going to go prove our loyalty to the Emperor and we're going to make up for our past mistakes by actually going to that giant ball of horror in the center of the galaxy and conquering everything between here and there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: What could go wrong?
[SPEAKER_00]: Few years go by, they're spreading the word, they're conquering, they're doing everything right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually, they arrive at the main destination, which is the eye of terror.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which I'd wait to get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go, I'm sorry, it's just,
[SPEAKER_01]: This is so awesome to me because this is inception level of planning because they're they've been doing this for very early on to get him to go this is your idea you want They need more fair on an era coferon in our chest through the cast gots
[SPEAKER_01]: making it so you want to, this is your idea to follow this pilgrimage, you want to come to the source of power of the immaterial in the material, which is the I have here where it's broken.
[SPEAKER_01]: So all of this has been this long, I just like that this is such a zeage plan with the God's helping that this is
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to take him when he gets broken, which is what happened when the emperor came down and they destroyed the city and everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: They broke his faith.
[SPEAKER_01]: We know this is going to happen and this is we're picking it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is now his idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not lure you to cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're making it so your idea to come the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, but the more he's very happy just go to say, but they, they, they set the stage for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's you are choosing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not lure you in and make your, you chose to come here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to come here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing you a favor and letting you worship us in the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're not pulling him to chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just letting him come to chaos now.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just, I like this such a, it's a great thing of how in cities the chaos powers are in how powerful they are in their ability to have low-time web crazy plans going on to make things happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's get to how this one works out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: They arrive there and upon arriving, the astronauts and the ship are not having a great day.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a bit ugly for astronauts to be as close to the eye of terror.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's something like just dying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Others are killing themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a huge mess.
[SPEAKER_00]: The lead astronaut comes to the lower guard and says, hey, we've got this signal from one of the planets just outside the eye.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's just a screen coming out of the planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's messing all the astrapats up.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Lorgar uses his circuit powers to find the screen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only the script is not a screen.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just his name being yelled into the void basically.
[SPEAKER_00]: The planet is calling down.
[SPEAKER_00]: So much of this is stolen from forbidden planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I realize a lot of you haven't seen that movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is Lee and that's that's even over me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have seen it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's it's barely for 50s.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's like 56s.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Lee and me some too, which is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I should've thought in the fear of the day long story.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they are to they go down to the planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And things are not ideal, but it's a pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get you to be right credit here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they're stealing ideas from sci-fi movies, but they're good ideas.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's run with this.
[SPEAKER_00]: This planet is Cadia.
[SPEAKER_00]: Full stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not called Cadia at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to become called Cadia, but the planet is Cadia.
[SPEAKER_00]: When the word bears land on Cadia, the local population comes up to them and this massive sci-fi thing, because the people are primitive.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's referred as productive.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's Stone Age ish.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is that, you know, we say Stone Age, this world was settled during the age of technology.
[SPEAKER_00]: She made just evolve here randomly, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: They came here with technology, but it has devolved since then.
[SPEAKER_00]: But some bits of it are still present.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, also, there's a bunch of unbelievably high tech stuff all over the planet, but no exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Necrot tech all over here, but.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a place that you didn't plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do we say?
[SPEAKER_00]: They're primitive in the caveat that one.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first thing that the word bears and custos notice, those, the people who are coming up to them are wearing leather clothing, made from human skin.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to box check number one on things aren't good.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is with first the box that the custode saying, so we're going to kill those people, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to kill all of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the next bunch of reveals are even wilder.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is awesome though, because they have literally symbols of the Colca star system that they should have absolutely no connection to or knowledge of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Add all the wordbears are kind of like, hey, what's going on here?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, why do you add my solar system tattooed on your back?
[SPEAKER_00]: it feels a bit odd.
[SPEAKER_00]: The better one though is the language.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the one that's really cool and I did love how they wrote this is the people start walking and talking to the word bears and the word bears start hearing the language of Colchesian, Colchese, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they're speaking to an Argal Tau says to a human expedition, like, hey, these people are speaking an old version of Colchese language, however, the custodes are there and the custodes know every language, the part of their education.
[SPEAKER_00]: They know the Colchese language.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not Colchese, what they're hearing is gibberish, because they're not speaking the same language, but when the people on Katie speak,
[SPEAKER_00]: The word bears who grew up on Colchese hear the words.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a cool sci-fi trope of the whoa, like I can communicate with you, but no one else can hear our communication because we're actually, it's a psychic communication, obviously, with a lot of- I wish I could say, I wish they would make an animation of this, because this has got to be a creepy intake in your back because-
[SPEAKER_01]: All the members, we didn't talk about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the people here, all these primitive people, are completely chill that they're here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, no reaction like, hey, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: These guys are coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just like, hey, we made you something to eat, because...
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they knew they were coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: The next thing that this is a prophecy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this woman walks up a name in Githau and in Githau and in Githau and in Githau and forms the word bears.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We knew you guys were coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was prophesized for a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, custos are going much, much kill them.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: They need to all die right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the word bears like, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here, now, let's hear this out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Engendal takes the word bears in the lower law back to the main settlement where she starts showing them their history.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's identical to Colchis.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got the same worship structure, same belief structure, except the one on Cadia is a lot more advanced.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got much deeper knowledge of the gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: The people of Colchis believe that there were gods with power, existing in the universe.
[SPEAKER_00]: The people of Cadia know there are.
[SPEAKER_00]: four gods and who they are, which does help when you can look up and see the rest of us, you know, in the right guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these people on T.O.
[SPEAKER_00]: actively worship the gods of the work and the custos at this point start shaking like seriously.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do love that she asked him the most loaded question ever.
[SPEAKER_01]: It goes, hey, do you want to know the real truth of the galaxy?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, yeah, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do actually want to this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like something I would like to know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Check this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, when she does this, she's like, that's the whole, okay, if you want to all she goes to Galaxy, come with me and we're going to go walk it down into a thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So she takes Lord God, Argal Tau, and this is his own name.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Fentafa, but also eat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why are the custodians?
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the story, but also the custodians at this point in time would have been all of us are going everywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not doing a horror movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were just splitting up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, everybody, put your weapons down and we'll go, you search the basement.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go out with the dark creek.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, no, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just goes, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why am I putting on this red shirt for some reason?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: They put on a red shirt to go on this trip.
[SPEAKER_00]: They descend to the lower level and they eventually walk into this room where there's 10 spears with nine bodies and pale upon them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Enge thought ticks off all their clothes and start dancing because apparently to invoke the dark pagods you have to take your clothes off, which doesn't really sound great because there's a lot of teeth and sharp pointy bits, so that's definitely the tile I want the most clothes on.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's when I'm trying to invoke the dark gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just calling it out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: and she's doing her dance and she's telling Lorgar, he has to provide the 10th sacrifice to complete this ritual.
[SPEAKER_01]: At which point the red shirt custodes loses his mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's absolutely not.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just said to him that he goes, he's doing the Galaxy Quest when he realizes he's guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's before he just stood for the Vendetta just looks it around and goes absolutely no and just aren't killing people just straight up Just wrecking cult and this is a custod so Against people so it's going pretty well for the custod until our gold how jams a spear the back of his head
[SPEAKER_00]: and it's just lying there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Arnold Talty was credit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Turns the lower guard and goes, hey man, this seems like a bit much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I just stabbed the custod.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we're going down a path, we shouldn't be going down.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Lord guard looks at him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Takes a deep thought of the words and goes, cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Grads van Dethas bet body and jams on top of the spear.
[SPEAKER_01]: which I'm eating the real is kind of yeah I was just gonna say we all do that was coming when the red shirt came down to win a man there's a boy there's a not you spear I feel like this is really something that might be in my future no right also look like I should have looked at it but when
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, come on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, come on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now our goal is going to become very interesting, very shortly here.
[SPEAKER_00]: In Geitha with the culmination of this turns into a demon.
[SPEAKER_00]: They actually describe which demon it is by the way of which god, but just turns into a demon.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not a fight at this point in time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they still have what I've hated pieces.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It can get a looks like so I'm getting it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should know what's a demon.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all we know.
[SPEAKER_00]: then give us our speaking to Lordgar and says, look, here's the deal, what do you want in Lordgar that I want that you with the galaxy?
[SPEAKER_00]: And there the kids in that kind of standard, are you sure?
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you really want all that?
[SPEAKER_00]: So the demon tells Lordgar, Lord can have all the information he could want, but at a cost.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just the, you're selling a short on that, the truth of the galaxy, the primordial truth of the galaxy, which is what they call it eventually, that's bigger than just hey, man, I'll let you know stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, this is the full, the actual truth, the real knowledge of what is the galaxy, the galaxy is and about powers that be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and with the engagement, the demon engagement, there's effectively says the Lord Barth, I can't tell this to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to show it to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's too vast and too grand for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which in every sci-fi or horror movie, anyone that says they have to show you or take you to something, never, never, never goes well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we can get this says the lower guard is that if you want to know this you're going to have to sacrifice some of your brothers and lower guard goes, okay, and looks at our goal talent says that guy will do it along with his company and he just does that to our goal like our cool dick move by the way, dick move.
[SPEAKER_00]: They then go back up, make up a really fun excuse of how a custodied to which put yellow custodies go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, then read the book.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not going to see me.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is rolling around.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, they didn't, they hid her from the custodies.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Argal town, the seventh company, loading to a ship to go to the Eye of Terror and engulfed the demon joins them, which I do like because they have to put her on the bridge because anywhere she was, everyone around, here's like killing each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's a demon giving off kind of demon energy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the ship just goes into the warp, and this trip isn't like a, it's more of a guided dream that happens next.
[SPEAKER_00]: So in Geitha, it turns the warp like into a VR set for like a better phrase.
[SPEAKER_00]: And let's the word there is namely Argal, and then what's there, seeing field of past.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the first thing that she does is gives them the truth of the L-Dar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because remember, at this point, they don't know the, every member of the space marines knows about the L-Dar.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, oh, yeah, the elder.
[SPEAKER_00]: They live in these like random ships.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't know the truth of the elder.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the first reveal of, oh, yeah, the elder were civilization.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were all of these, these civilization, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And now they get this full breakdown of the fall of the elder, but with a little bit of a twist.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, in getthall, they does with a wild shift of,
[SPEAKER_01]: you, this could happen to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why the important thing that Engaitha imparts on them, whether it's true or not, is that the fall of the Eldar wasn't their decadence.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was their refusal to accept the gods of chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: The fact is that Eldar fell to, you know, horror,
[SPEAKER_00]: But in doing so, they wouldn't worship the gods of chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: They still kind of had too much hubris to accept the true power of gods, and had they accepted the dark gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would have just been imbued with the dark god power, and they wouldn't know all been eaten by Slonesh.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all trash, but... Yeah, she just wanted to say actual truth.
[SPEAKER_01]: She gives enough truth in her wild lies, which is kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: that's the hope that's how chaos works.
[SPEAKER_00]: The next step she says is that humanity is the next of fall and if they don't do the same, they will have the same feet they'll do of birthing a chaos god.
[SPEAKER_00]: We will cover that later guys and that chaos god consuming all of them and their souls.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're a cover a lot of that in the later cast.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the next bit is super cool in this book.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ingenthal then takes into the Emperor's secret underground volcano science layer and he explains to them the Primark project and how it was not made by the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was actually made the Emperor stole this from the Dark Gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the word bears sit there and see the 20 gestation pods with all the Primark's growing inside of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: At a nowhere-ingathal is able to manifest in reality at this point, and she breaks the Geller field.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that allows the chaos gods to grab them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So as we always thought for the chaos gods grabbing them, it actually was inganthal using all of this to time travel back in time, manifest herself and break the Geller field that was protecting the primarx.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool reveal, fun book.
[SPEAKER_00]: After this, Engadol tells them they've now learned all the risk to learn about the galaxy and they have to steal the rest.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she tells Argol to tell the lower the yellow field of the ship, which Argol does and Engadol, by the way, women.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very little convincing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just as okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Engadol kills all of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're in the warp.
[SPEAKER_00]: So as she kills them, demons immediately possess their body.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the remote implanted possessed, anything else.
[SPEAKER_00]: The ship then has to turn around and start getting out of the warp.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the kind of Gilligan's island style because the warp's pretty rough and the kind of ship is getting fall.
[SPEAKER_01]: The ship was tossed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was for the character of the fearless crew.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, in my courage, I mean, they fight and kill in each other for seven months until they emerge back out of the warp.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very few people still alive.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when they realize themselves in reality,
[SPEAKER_00]: It's only been a few seconds that they've been in the warp.
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, the custodes all just saw a ship go in and a ship come out.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's all anyone has seen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Laura Gard meets the crew and he immediately detects how to say it does not take even a second he's like, yeah, everybody's jacked here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he takes all of them and shoves them all in prison.
[SPEAKER_00]: Send, you know, yeah, trust you guys yet, you can do this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he goes and he sits next to Ardol Tau.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Ardol Tau tells him anything and everything that he's learned, the whole story.
[SPEAKER_00]: and Lorgar then releases this seventh company, and he names them the gal of war back because they are actually the possessed.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what we currently have possessed in the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're the first ones ever, and he promotes Argal Tal to Captain of this fighting force.
[SPEAKER_00]: More importantly, Lorgar decides this is to practically the primordial truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I am going to fully embrace chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: more importantly, I am going to now have to go on my own trip into the eye of terror, but before I can do that, I have to cover my own tracks because of the whole custod thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Lord Garthen goes and says, yeah, you know what, you know those people down there who are wearing human skin, who speak a language that somehow we can understand as a new worshiping
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's kill him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he does.
[SPEAKER_00]: He destroys the entire population, wipes the whole thing out, but he doesn't blow up the planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's that he marks it for colonization, like LV426.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how we get Katie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, also he makes it so that he messes with the messages sent back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he also affects the custos because he knows the custos are going to give a little bit too much information back.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he has his legion affected the filter, all of the astronaut pathic communication coming out of the custos.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everything's allowed to go except for some of the details and what happened on Cadia.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that way, there's one of the emperor
[SPEAKER_00]: The last thing we should cover here is Lorgar's walkabout, which is actually a different book.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is from the novel Orrealian, which we're going to use a little bit next week as well in our cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the fact that you call it a walkabout.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not wrong, but it is funny to walk a call at a walkabout.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny to us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a little walkabout in the work.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Lorgar and Ingenthold go back to the Eye of Terror for his own adventure next.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this time Ingenthold is going to reveal to Lorgar further truths of the universe.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first place that they end up with is former shrine world in the Eye of Terror.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's told, this is where Lorgar learns about the Neverborn, because Lorgar is a
[SPEAKER_00]: He's actually a very powerful siker from being honest.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the more powerful sikers.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't talk about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he doesn't use the powers as much as some other ones do, but he's quite strong.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Lord Garn notices this thing about Eng and Thal.
[SPEAKER_00]: In that,
[SPEAKER_00]: English has no soul.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can see that.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no soul in this being.
[SPEAKER_00]: The demon exists, but there's no core.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he asked him about how do you exist without this soul, and English all explains, the warp itself can create beings like itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're able to manifest, but they can't manifest outside of the warp unless there's a soul of a moral to manifest
[SPEAKER_00]: And so these never-borns, what they refer to them, they can never be anything more than a never-born, unless they have a way to manifest via a soul.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then, England all goes into explain that when a being dies in the material, their soul transfers to the immaterial.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in that transfer, a few different things can happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some souls, the ones who live like a remarkable life, are pre-selected by the God.
[SPEAKER_00]: So as soon as they die, they are graded by the God's name, whichever dark God it is becomes theirs.
[SPEAKER_00]: But those who are on worthy get rejected by the dark God's nation have float around, and they become the prey of the never-born.
[SPEAKER_00]: These demons both fight out to consume the souls of
[SPEAKER_00]: And Laura makes an interesting note on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not the heaven that I'd learned about back on coal cheese.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't promise.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, from that seat, she's focused to which England thought says right, but you'd learned about hell, didn't you?
[SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, that's why I like this reveal on the book.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is an important reveal because the whole concept is that Colchi sent a lot of these planets like them who've been worshiping Dark Gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're doing it because they thought of it as this, as them being, not dark gods, that they were positive beings.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Engenthals telling Laura our straight up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, they're not.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the realm of evil.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me deal with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Move on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the loreguard next gets confronted by an avatar of Kane.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like this little bit of a story, because this avatar of Kane, remember it's a shrinewood, has been infecting the planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: sort of, because remember, we're in the reverse, in the material, and say, Os would affect an planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the avatar of Kane is, yeah, it air quotes infecting the planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he is, he's creating a plague on the planet, but a plague against chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the chaos speaks this, Lord Gartill's the avatar, and it's freeze the planet of the infection.
[SPEAKER_00]: The next thing is Lorgar's taken on a tour showing him a lot of different futures.
[SPEAKER_00]: The idea though about this is showing that Lorgar, nothing is predetermined.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar up to this point, I believe that there was a fake.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm following a path, and this is the path I'm on.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's with Engenthall that Lorgar learns.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there were a bunch of possibilities here, including ones where Lorgar was killed by other primarks killed by the Emperor, all these different ways.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is here because, like, shins, at which point Lorgar finally though asks the key question, why me?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's magnets, there's sanguinious, or not conred, it's conred the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but there's a lot of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to come off.
[SPEAKER_00]: But all of these ones, why are you coming to me?
[SPEAKER_00]: Why not my brothers?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Ingrid I'll explain something, it's because Lorgar is the most open to seeing the truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: They specifically call it Magnus, saying, look, Magnus is an incredible psych or Magnus has a connection to the work, Magnus can talk to the gods, but Magnus only cares about Magnus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Magnus is trying to gain knowledge for himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar they know sees the truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: They call on the seeker of truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the purpose of Lorgar in the word bears is not to fight in the kill, but to steer humanity to what we talked about a short while ago into accepting the gods of chaos, not fighting it, becoming worthy followers, and therefore allowing the gods to consume humanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of a big reveal and I like it as much other core reveals in the book.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to spoil it, but if you want to get a better understanding of kind of gods in primarx.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go read this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of the better one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of it, Laura Garret times the materialian.
[SPEAKER_00]: fully ready to serve the chaos gods because now he understands how the galaxy works and that's what we're going to pause until next week because next week we're going into the heresy warrior lodges, Lordguard, Lordgarring, and Brad being an order to arabes.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it next week because we went dive a lot more.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is
[SPEAKER_00]: This part we had to build into, this is why the word bears are so powerful and especially that last reveal there, where it, why is it, Lord God, because Lord God is not in this ta-conquer, he's there to actually convert, which kind of plays and though a lot of there also post heresy stuff, but we can do it, but you'll see why and we can do next week.
[SPEAKER_00]: So until next week guys, Chambar Sadi, Brad Jester, this time, see you then.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you very much.