[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the Forty K-Lorecast.
[SPEAKER_00]: book of the Forty K. Lorcats and me John Barzati and brought just a sky.
[SPEAKER_00]: Today we'll be continuing our coverage to the word bears and from their role in the outbreak and then the acceleration of the horse heresy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Judging right a little bit because Arabis and Lorcars start to see the future of the galaxy in different paths.
[SPEAKER_01]: See my finish.
[SPEAKER_01]: different path of how to get that for sure on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember those.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I still play it all by the way, they're awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I play them annually.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I'm ready to do like, oh, yeah, I can still use.
[SPEAKER_00]: You was a style master.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, but back to the master, but hold their core.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's the ridiculous encounters in all of gaming because you have no business and there's just a arena of holders.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's literally why I had the tattoo of my shoulder of the beholder disintegrating the warrior.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's because of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, God, what a grazing countered.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those gins or nuts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, Brad's sell up, Chester.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're happily, you know, God, the level of crap.
[SPEAKER_00]: You would sweat late night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: or as we call it, Nasserold Goldschlager, which on a side note, why even do that renaming?
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to believe there was some Eastern European who was like, the rest of the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't pronounce them and it's complicated as Goldvasser.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll make it easy to pronounce.
[SPEAKER_00]: Goldschlager, because who can't pronounce Schlager?
[SPEAKER_00]: What could go wrong here?
[SPEAKER_00]: But Gaddaunts, Gaddaunts has a mild historical significance in that it was called Danzig, and then the Treaty of Versailles separated out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then in 1933, I Germany felt no to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to which England said, the hell you do, World War II.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Gaddaunts has an interesting history.
[SPEAKER_00]: They actually two different times in history, an independent state, although one time was like
[SPEAKER_00]: They look better than Vatican Sado, because at least they're not landlocked.
[SPEAKER_00]: Vatican Sado is weird, because it's landlocked.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just surrounded by the other country.
[SPEAKER_01]: At least, Cadance can technically get up to the coastline.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cadance is also famous, because that's one of more than 10 different names of the city.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can actually pronounce maybe a few of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cadance?
[SPEAKER_00]: dog-kazik, dan-de-kazik, sorry, any of our Polish listeners in case I just said something really offensive, sorry?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know, that's not my language.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like a lot of parts of Europe, Gidon's was first populated during the Stone Age, because it regions fertile, so that's where you settle, because you know, food good, not food bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was formally settled around the 10th century as the first, like, Polish, yes, it's important, guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to live where there's food and water.
[SPEAKER_00]: Key step.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also why Desert Island's bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jim's are below in today, maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: I and here, John had a boozey lunch, so we may not have been as high-falutin on the information as we've been another time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, be honest, the place I went has that there's very tall ciders, and I realized that's where the site was 8%.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to part it today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Romans did settle it for a period of time, but the Romans kind of just put elements everywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: In a 10th century, the very first Polish state came into being, and Gaddawnsk was a key part of it, given that it's coastal.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's most of its history, like a lot of places there from the 10th, the 16th century fluctuated, but the 16th century Gaddawnsk gained a lot of economic power, because
[SPEAKER_00]: Since it was coastal, the distribution of grain and timber from the rest of the region went through there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they became incredibly wealthy during that era, which then meant when the industrial revolution hit, they had the money to invest.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the city actually had trains, manufacturing, all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it became a very major city to the Prussian Empire, who called it Danzig, who's, I mean, obviously.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a misfits tattoo, so we'll move on today there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lassal Thundax and good-dance, couple famous people on there, one, Johannes Helvinius was there, so he's the guy I hitching mapped the moon with a telescope, which is effort, and Thundax, I think, over 11 constellations, but more importantly, Daniel Gabriel Fahrenheit is from there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're addicted.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is impossible.
[SPEAKER_01]: It will only measure the temperature of this temperature that you should use.
[SPEAKER_01]: No sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is that's the hardest part of being American is when I have to talk to my European colleagues and explain to them what things are here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like talking about it because I like saying that, hey, we were at blah, blah, blah and it was 99 degrees and people look at me and go, the earth and it won't happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: The better one though, it's actually if you want something funny, like right now, let our Canadian listeners fill this in, look up how Canada flips between the metal and perial system.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Canada, you guys are nuts about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also random.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a good flow chart you can find.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, Polish food, I do like it a lot, especially parrogies.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I will say, this is a note to everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stop breading your meat and then frying it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just cook your damn meat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need schnitzel.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't eat cartlet shop oil.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't eat millenese.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't eat cartlet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't eat filetio.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just cook the damn food.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pork chop, chicken, and yeah, I don't eat fried chicken.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, I just don't like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like chicken.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love chicken.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can't eat this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do I fried chicken?
[SPEAKER_00]: Fried chicken is, it's just just cook the damn chicken.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chicken.
[SPEAKER_00]: delicious.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cover a tisserie chicken.
[SPEAKER_00]: You go to Costco.
[SPEAKER_00]: If those of you aren't in America, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: You missed out on this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you go to Costco, get a rotisserie chicken.
[SPEAKER_00]: No one said.
[SPEAKER_00]: Unless you don't eat meat, which case you have fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Discord.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lincoln is showing out easy to join.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fantastic spot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great place for a lore, great pace for literature, great place for telling me all the things I get wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: Brad probably too.
[SPEAKER_00]: the really wonderful spot to interact.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are extremely proud of our totally free discord that anyone can join.
[SPEAKER_00]: Second.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not pay for.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just say, no paywall, because there shouldn't be a discord.
[SPEAKER_00]: And come on in, join the communities getting really good, especially in the 11th days, just launching.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing a lot of people asking questions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, how do I play this game?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm reading this rule.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's it mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: And no one's calling them an idiot or an asshole for asking the question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, it's a, yes, let me answer that question and explain to you why it matters.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the way you're supposed to handle when someone says, I don't know this, can someone please help me instead of yelling at them for being not as big of a nerd as you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But let's start off with our cast with Brad being wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know what the best part about this cast is going to be, me getting to wax poetically about the destruction of multiple ultraman plants.
[SPEAKER_01]: it was one.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's mountain also.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They broke.
[SPEAKER_00]: They built them back later.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're not that one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Except for calls.
[SPEAKER_00]: Call them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's start about one.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get into like hammering home.
[SPEAKER_00]: How wrong Brad was about the warrior who I just think of that idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean like real wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the hell he tried to die on and it's going to be like getting a little round up big round top for my you know American history buffs.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, around 60 years before the outbreak of a heresy, there was this pivotal conflict on a world being brought in in pure compliance, and it was a world of warriors.
[SPEAKER_00]: The wars, this planet, all were broke up into segments.
[SPEAKER_00]: Each of them, they worshiped a different animal entity for like a better phrase, like a serpent, for example.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I say that because the world is called David.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing bad happened to David.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the legion is brought
[SPEAKER_00]: But Gavin, no negatives, say the truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see no issues here.
[SPEAKER_00]: The two legions that did the compliance with the Luna Wolves in the word bears.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the Luna Wolves, they were a successful, but it was a lot of costs, because the Warriors of Daven put up way more resistance than either of them thought that they could.
[SPEAKER_00]: And both the legionaries of both legions took notice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they realized that the Warriors of Daven fought together with a higher level of cooperation
[SPEAKER_01]: It also, their battle coordination was like they could read each other's minds a while they were, yeah, immediately reacting to things on the battlefield.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now the
[SPEAKER_00]: Lunar Wolves and the word bears are both like, oh, it must be because of these great, you know, warrior, or your lodges.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had, yeah, it wasn't because they were chaos worshipers, got them morons.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why they're going to coordinate so well, they were chaos worshipers and the chaos gods were flowing through them.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how it goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: We try to make a chaos plan, but anyway, people are stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: These things happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Arabic uses this though as a great opportunity for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why don't we work on more better warrior bonds?
[SPEAKER_00]: So the lodges are the design of the arabes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Doing great, Brad.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does do a great job.
[SPEAKER_01]: He uses them for some nefarious means.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the terrible idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: The idea behind the warrior lodge is that it's a place where all legionaires can sit.
[SPEAKER_00]: not as rank and file, but as equals and talk with each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, what a great idea, except in reality, they were secret societies, because that's what that's exactly is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this doesn't align well with military culture for a reason, because the emperor had his own things.
[SPEAKER_00]: So as a result, the warrior lodges, because they are a big, big no-no, are a secret warrior lodge, which is what, of course they would be if you're talking about having a bunch of people sit around quote unquote as equals.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a why you watch me eyes wide shut, but this is a good idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was waiting for my invitation to third party.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hasn't come yet?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not a lot of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: To be fair.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go to Ize one shot Toledo.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's here in the original talk.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just assume it's next the Cadillac converted we sell it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't even find out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: All that kindergarten fight was impressive.
[SPEAKER_00]: The issue with the warrior lodges, the calling out realistically is that they were not public.
[SPEAKER_00]: So all of the members were secret, and only the members knew of the other members, and they also met in secret, the warrior lodges were, yeah, just the thing, or looking in the book, gives the best quote.
[SPEAKER_01]: which is, if you're willing to keep this secret from your brothers, what are your secrets or are you willing to keep?
[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, if you're not willing to share something because you're ashamed of it, you know, and they try to talk around it, but don't do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's because Logan realized what they really were, which was that these were a nefarious organization meant to undermine.
[SPEAKER_00]: the Imperian.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Arabic's real goal was twofold.
[SPEAKER_00]: First, he was using the so-to-seeds of betrayal.
[SPEAKER_00]: You gain members to discuss all their displeasure with the Imperia War Machine.
[SPEAKER_00]: And by proxy the emperor, he's trying to start sewing that like doubt and that distrust.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the second part is the bigger part though because he was trying to figure out okay, who's not receptive to this heresy, so we can market down so we can get rid of that when it's just down.
[SPEAKER_00]: The warrior lodges are maybe the most important element.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually, they're more important than Horus getting stabbed by a temper.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because without them, the heresy falls apart, because you have internal conflict.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is what allowed Arabists to do and Horus do everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, he's talking, he's so comically evil.
[SPEAKER_01]: With, I don't care what he's drawn in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, if you've ever seen all of the artwork for Arabists, he's supposed to be Arabists after, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: but he looks full crazy from the get-go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, I, this wasn't great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he, in my mind, he's still going to comical bad guy mustache.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he does it in the things, but I'll put it on.
[SPEAKER_01]: He tells you everything he tells you while he's got a woman tied to railroad tracks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get in the air of us just being kind of a dick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of.
[SPEAKER_00]: After being made the war master, Horace continues his campaign of compliance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he has no issue with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm more master at first back at home.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do what I was supposed to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'd be talked about it forever ago in a Horace Heresy cast stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the reasons, one of the many reasons that this was even able to be done is this is also when Horace is declared the warmaster, the Emperor dooses out from the crusade.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a Leo silent.
[SPEAKER_01]: No one knows what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is how they were able to spread all this distrust and everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: None of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: is even possible until the emperor goes on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Until he starts, his library project and everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: None of this is probably just want to set the stage for this because otherwise you're like, why would the emperor just go, no, stop it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's why, because he's not here anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not answering calls basically either.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's busy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, as Horace does this campaign, few different worlds fall to compliance, some go well, some don't, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: They eventually hit this kingdom of the interacts.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the interacts,
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: You talked about the dairy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the fact that I hate them so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate this so much.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's just stupid.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are a human descendant species.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are humans, but they have bad ears because their language is music and sounds.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they needed bigger ears.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good luck with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I look forward to bats had big ears.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the ears so bad out of the evolution.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, now let me talk to you about magic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's just lazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's my thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole thing, because the problem is, I do see the cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I have to go all the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they get force evolved by cash bars.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my, I actually think that's that.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, how could it be?
[SPEAKER_00]: How could that be?
[SPEAKER_00]: They fight chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're because of where we're there.
[SPEAKER_00]: The internet, that's what the, my thing with the inter-axes, the inter-axes, what has been a, everyone had coin technology, it's how he's settled.
[SPEAKER_00]: She means the AI running the clone, the thing we had with the kin and the votein, we've gone bad ears, they bad ears, so that they can talk via song, which also what's his music, but I think of it as song, so I want the inter-axes to be really annoying, where all they do is sing, when you visit the inter-axes, you enter a musical, at all times,
[SPEAKER_01]: they always see me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it self-park where they do that, where it's like, everyone just starts saying, oh no, it's that self-park.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, um, oh, is it blazing saddles?
[SPEAKER_00]: Damn it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It might be blazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a melt.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely a melt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Most of the times they've done that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's definitely a melt Brooks film where people keep seeing you like, no stop it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a nut.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a melt Brooks film.
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be blazing saddles.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not space balls.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, but anyway, they're big, by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: It originally
[SPEAKER_00]: on empire basically.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, they're 30 star systems and more important.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I don't know I'm a chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're fully aligned with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think that they can
[SPEAKER_01]: But Brad, I think they got manipulated by Cass.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think they're in line with Cass at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they get eliminated.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, so much of the stuff that happens because of them leads the worst seriously.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's poor writing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, yeah, they used, they could be able to communicate with music.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have normal ears.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I can hear?
[SPEAKER_00]: Music.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not that complicated.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they're the only my ears are bigger.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then I could really hear the music.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can hear more tones.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can go farther.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: your, your, your size has nothing to do with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's entirely the actual cognitive function of your brain based off the vibration of your inner ear.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how that works.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the big air helps a lot because it looks cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: It does the rule of cool always applies, John.
[SPEAKER_00]: The entire people look like bad boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, some people might think that's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm important.
[SPEAKER_00]: The important part of the interacts is that they've aligned themselves with the L-DAR and they are fervently anti-K-S.
[SPEAKER_00]: The point they've actually already destroyed quite a few hostile Xenos Chaos Alliance species.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they do a good job of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, they pose a couple problems for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Problem number one, there's no lovers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I mean, there's no lovers.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are full on allies, y'all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, so Horace has an issue of, ah, this is a big no-no, but second of all, they've got a pretty nice collection of relics from their conquests, including chaos and fuse walks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now Horace doesn't know what those are.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there's one person around Horace who does.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I like the thing of this morose, because the first thing you read, you're like, well, why they destroy the relics?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it more is a D&D thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's stuff in D&D that if a relic is cursed so heavily, if you try to destroy it, the curse just goes on you.
[SPEAKER_00]: So all you can do is just leave it in inventory and drop it somewhere, but you can't actually destroy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's how I look to look at some of their collection, but Horace's problem is that they own 30 star systems and it's not by chance.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can really fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Horace wants to use diplomacy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I see he can convince them to somehow out of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: That story is for a different guest.
[SPEAKER_00]: The one that matters is Eribus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eribus is with Horace when they visit the Eterics.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Eribus looks around the Eterics and goes, oh, I hate you guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: I really hate you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've killed a bunch of my friends.
[SPEAKER_00]: All these
[SPEAKER_01]: they have a lot of things that he needs to achieve his goals, though, including themselves, and well, a wildly cursed, a whole bunch of cursed weapons, but especially of the... And that one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And which is annoying, because it's the inantimate.
[SPEAKER_00]: It comes in because of a lot, by the way, but it's the inantimate, which is a blade cursed by miracle, where if you speak a name into it and then stab that person with it,
[SPEAKER_00]: they get a uncurable poison that's incredibly painful death.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Arabus sneaks away and steals that.
[SPEAKER_00]: The interacts did not miss that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a fun scene of the book where Horus and team discover that the elder are going to peer out of nowhere and also all of the weaponry the interacts has looks like regular just normal stuff, definitely a gun, but it's a gun and it will melt the screen.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Horus has to retreat, and they flee the system of the hitter X.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not clear how arabas pulls us off, by the way, because he snuck in, stole the blade, and then takes the blade to Daven, and gets back to Horus, but anyone else.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he also goes down sneak down and gives it to Temba, the planetary governor.
[SPEAKER_01]: All with sneaky sneaky with no one noticing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have to assume the chaos gods helped quite a bit because Eugene Temba, who is the planetary governor of Daven, is he has a lot of aspirations for himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when Arabians hands him a sword saying this will put you in charge, he goes,
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: For all the DAD people I love this because I'm going to go old school on this the end of the ego of that weapon.
[SPEAKER_01]: He instantly gets possessed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Oh, and that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole well, I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: He touches it and immediately feels every role.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's he.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, very much.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's really all one.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just has some all ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: You non-stop once.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the result is for those who haven't read this, the Tember falls to chaos and actually get confused by Nurgle, so making him quite the powerhouse, but also the entire planet, just over the end of my Nurgle.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when Horace gets to Daven, to put it down, because this is a pretty serious revolution for some plain planet at that point in time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: They talk about their walking through.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can't figure out why their feet feel heavy and it's because they're walking through decaying everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just walking through decay as they go through it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually Horace meets with Eugene Temba, who looks like a normal dude, but fights like a demon, which he does, is he then Eugene stabs Horace.
[SPEAKER_00]: At this moment,
[SPEAKER_00]: Horace is dying, painfully dying, and they convince the Lunar Wolves to let them take Horace to the serpent lodge on Daven, where they can use non-traditional air quotes there, healing method.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well,istic methods.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're going to rub some sage on him to heal him.
[SPEAKER_00]: While this happens, Horace echoes into his kind of fever dream where the chaos gods begin tempting him.
[SPEAKER_00]: arabic knows this is basically the most important moment of his life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as a result, he uses psychic powers to actually project himself in Dolores' dream, but he appears not as arabic, but as a guy named Hoster Sajanas.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does he die in the first book?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's the first book you guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: He dies right before this.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's very soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I can't, but I think he dies at the opening of the first book about that mistaken, but he was one of Horace's favorite people, basically, and he dies on a diplomatic meeting gone wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Horace is looking at a former good friend and confidant who's actually arabic, and arabic uses this to soften Horace's stance against the chaos gods, because Horace was willing to die.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was willing to just let this be the end of him.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, this happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Magnus tried to help out.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was useless.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Arabah steers him like, you know, you know, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the things is that they used, we talked a lot about this and the, all right, things about the Horses here to go back.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of my favorite cast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of my favorites is, the Chaos Gods knew exactly what buttons to push with the help of arabas.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hugely with the help of arabas on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they went into,
[SPEAKER_01]: Tupers and his pride and everything else his horse willing to die.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but You've been betrayed the entire galaxy will fall the ruin unless you rise up and do the right That's how they started he eventually just became a cast pawn exactly over choose put cast pump But in the beginning they were giving him all the
[SPEAKER_01]: you're the only one that can do it and because of the fact that he had a huge monopride and everything, he, well, he was like, of course it is, you know, I'm the warm master.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't have been chosen unless I was the best.
[SPEAKER_01]: And,
[SPEAKER_00]: And so as we get into the horse heresy, this is a big inflection point though.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is because Airbus takes on a much more significant role than Lord Gar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is because they end up with different goals.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_00]: On the last cast, we closed out talking about how Lord Gar was told by effectively chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: Your role is to lead the people to us.
[SPEAKER_00]: As a result, this is my interpretation.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Lorgar always believed the heresy would just succeed, because the chaos gods are so powerful, of course, them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's kind of naive as a character, but I think he enjoys a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's naive.
[SPEAKER_00]: He really believes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He will just work itself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually think that he was really going down.
[SPEAKER_01]: He shifts.
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: He shifts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But right at the time, I still think that he thinks he's doing what has to be done.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, he's I, you know, I, I'll give that thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And originally, Laura Garth thought he was saving humanity by taking humanity to chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't want that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Error bits on the other hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think he knows Emily understands.
[SPEAKER_00]: He knows the truth.
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows the face of evil.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is 100% okay with it and willing to embrace it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he is the ultimate villain on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still think he's such, that's why I hate him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he is responsible for all these things that happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I think that's why I started seeing this bifurcation between the two of them, because Lord Gargis believes the course we're going to win.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why wouldn't we win?
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no reason for us not to not win.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas Arabis goes, no, the chaos gods are not powerful enough to win this.
[SPEAKER_00]: The emperor will win this if we don't do something, and Arabis knew that force of chaos will fracture and will struggle, whereas the force of the Imperium will be single of purpose.
[SPEAKER_00]: So arabic begins to work really hard to not only steer the heresy, but to create a lot of like numerous kind of go side plots within like these mini heresy stuff will cover later like jocky We try to murder now could all these we'll give you the one of the most powerful things that arabas does or his abilities is
[SPEAKER_01]: This dude must have a Hoover level of dirt on everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: He knows everybody's flaws and he knows all the inner person's inch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he knows all the inner personal conflicts of people too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Any primark on primark, mojo, anything like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's right up on top of it and is very effective at starting shit, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is the ultimate galactic shit starter.
[SPEAKER_00]: He works this area very well.
[SPEAKER_00]: and then there's core fair on who just kind of sucks at this stage.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's Luther.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love what I was going to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no chance you're going to like a character if you think he's basically the diet coke of Luther.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what this guy is.
[SPEAKER_00]: He pulls off.
[SPEAKER_00]: He becomes star screen effectively.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where everything he tried, he constantly pulls defeat from the jaws of victory over and over and over again.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like core fair on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, but let's get to the calling of the legions.
[SPEAKER_00]: The lead-up to Istvon's plural, the word bears themselves had their own little split.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Lorgar having like seen in that way the force of chaos sees them as the future of humanity and as inevitable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Arabis and Corferon are less aligned with this in inevitability, mostly Arabis, but he's just able to influence Corferon.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, one of the major challenges that the horror is going to face is actually the rebellion from within, because we're talking about 200 years between the Star of the Great Crusade and the outset of horror's heresy, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: In that period of time, a lot of the Terran-born legionaires have died, but the vast majority not that's a bit, an overwhelming chunk of them still exist.
[SPEAKER_00]: And even amongst the non-Terran-born are the lot of them who are loyal to the emperor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Horace cannot wage a war while also fighting within his own legion of people who were like, no, I'm not turning traitor.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Erivis, not a Lordgar, Erivis comes to him with a plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Erivis was about to basically move himself out of the word bearers into much larger, bold, and general.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is basically, because making the heresy start from the warrior lodges,
[SPEAKER_01]: Things didn't work out for my warrior lodges.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm well away.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's because they're a terrible idea because anytime someone says to you Hey, don't worry.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a safe space.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can speak freely here.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are writing that crap down Do not do it by drink therapy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't give me wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: But outside of that, this isn't therapy.
[SPEAKER_00]: When someone's like, oh no, everyone here's cool, man You can say whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy the black mail
[SPEAKER_00]: because that's what's coming from the right afterwards.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like, that's on you.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you fall for that one to get black failed, that's on you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he starts a big movement of categorizing who's going to be a problem and who's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he also starts to really the insidious part is as soon as he finds out who's going to be a problem to all the people that he thinks are going to be able to commit over to the heresy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He starts effectively bad mulling those people
[SPEAKER_01]: personal problems that people have within you to get them against those people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what's interesting about Eribus's stages, Eribus starts moving himself up to being a major confidant of Horace to the point that later in the heresy, he actually will kind of supplant Abadant in that regard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Abadant is still Horace's number one warrior, but Eribus has, I think, more influence, and that's why it's why Abadant hated Eribus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hated Eribus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Three occurs.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've covered that before giant calling of allegiance, but the word bearers weren't part of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: The word bearers, they need to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: They already called their own legion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Years ago over the last.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we were going to talk about this because there was a shadow revolution going on from the original when he blew up their gem of the city.
[SPEAKER_01]: when that they started right that like there was yes they had the fake we're trying to redeem ourselves we're going to be the best chapter and the shadow war was going on with them calling out anybody that wasn't going to the new way that the legion was going and that happened almost immediately upon that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so by the time we get this on three, the lesion has been cleaned up from the wordbar.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this also means that there's still list of those loyal.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when the call goes out to, hey, we got a bunch of traders from someone help us out when the word bear is volunteer, it makes a lot more sense than say, I don't know the night lords as accepting their help.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the truth is, yes, they've been erecting monuments to a godle of the place, but the god was the emperor, so it feels like they're probably loyal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oops.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the events of Istvan 5 don't go great for Lordgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I would think about this a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit complicated.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's two ways I think you can look at Lordgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: when we look at the from this point on to the rest of the heresy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He either is just the bad guy to get his ass kicked, because it happens a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: He keeps getting close to getting his ass kicked and over and over and over again, or he's an allegory to chaos in that hubris.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is the fiber for that one?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I think of it a lot of it's like the idea being that Lorgar is a favorite of chaos and he just interprets.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I will be the best because I'm a favorite of chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he doesn't listen in that hubris.
[SPEAKER_00]: He fails to remember chaos is chaotic.
[SPEAKER_00]: and they don't actually, they will be fickle.
[SPEAKER_01]: And material, they won't give you power and take it away at the same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And or turn away from you and not say to you yet, yeah, and a great example of this is on, is to fund five, on is to fund five, they kick off and Lordgar comes strong forth to attack the loyalists, supported by the Galvor back, you know, it's possessed and the idea is that I'm going to go kill me a primer and he comes upon.
[SPEAKER_00]: a very tired, but also pretty angly corrects who's also strapping on.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got the old pump up boots of mighty asker.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's in his pump.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's put a few pops in and he chuffed Norris Roundhouse kicks, Lord Garen to another dimension and all of the gal vork.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Lorgar versus the Raven Raven, because that's his actual name doesn't go great.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Galavore back are actually prepared.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Galavore back are wrecking the Raven Garves space marines until Correx sees them and goes, yeah, I'm not about that and flies over it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did before Correx all alone.
[SPEAKER_00]: The town, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: all of an except for Ardoltal die in basically an instant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar rushes over, infuse with chaos powers to just get punched right in the mouth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like immediately, too, and it's on a back foot.
[SPEAKER_00]: A corrects about to kill him when, of course, Conrad shows up because Conrad can fight and Lorgar was saved.
[SPEAKER_00]: The events on the surface though seem to stun Lorgar a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's in my, again, it's because back to my opinion earlier, I think of Lorgar as being thinking, I am the favorite of Chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hell, I went and had a chat with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: They obviously would support me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will be invincible and then just got his AS kicked bad to not like a oh, it was a close fight It's a middle school fight against how it's under note.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's a little correct.
[SPEAKER_00]: Roodle Till then he was gonna hunt him down and murder himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's still trying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which he's still trying to do, which is nice of him.
[SPEAKER_00]: What happened so is Wargar gets the call.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get up here on the ship and they comes back on to I went for the horse's ship called Fitzgerald's baseball spirit.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Sue's Lord God wants to know what he looks over.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, he gets in the room.
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks over in full grooms there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is the full groom who's possessed by a demon from his plane.
[SPEAKER_00]: And immediately, Lord God attacks doesn't explain why he just attacks full groom, trying to kill it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he knows what's really going on, messes my brother.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a demon in here, and it's an odd thing is Lord God again.
[SPEAKER_00]: is not pro-demon.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eribus would have been like, this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: High five of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, but Lorgar is not cool with this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Interestingly, though, Forest sees his breaks up the fight and kicks everyone out of the room, except for Fulgram and Lorgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it explains to him, yeah, look, I know it's a DM pissing Fulgram, but, you know, let's see what happens, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: and Lorgar is just horrified by this.
[SPEAKER_00]: The point where in the novel, Horace puts his hand on Lorgar's shoulders as, hey man, you know, basically be cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Lorgar uses his psychic powers to make Horace take his hand off of his shoulder, which Horace is not all that thrilled by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he doesn't think that there is any way
[SPEAKER_01]: that they would try to take one of their chosen possess them and treat them like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, what happens if that happened to me, effectively?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I inferred that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a good interpretation.
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw it more, it was just like, a, like, this, in effect, we shouldn't be around them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Lord Guard doesn't seem to be serving the chaos gods as part of it, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think E.C.
[SPEAKER_00]: is a misserving him, but that's a side note.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's the novel here by the way, just for the note code are really in.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really cool stuff in that one.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Lord Gar once again later, rejoins Horace in the bridge to hear the directions.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Horace has laid out this magnificent trap for the Ultramarines.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's told young Minotrines that there's an impending or invasion on the world of call.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's in the viridian sector, within Ultramar, and Gilmour's master almost all of his forces there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Horace's sending Lorgar there with the word bearers to assist them in the pacification of the arcs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, because of a ruined storm, Gilmour doesn't know about this, fun, three, and it's fun, five.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no communication going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar is told, attack the Ultramarines on call, finish cripple their forces.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Lorgar goes, yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, I'm only up at half my forces in the Gulf.
[SPEAKER_00]: The rest of my forces are going to tackle all of Ultramar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Horace being the war master.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he does know his stuff goes, that's a terrible idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you will execute it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You will get ruined if you try and do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't split your legion half to explore her goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK. Then get me a second legion.
[SPEAKER_00]: And with that, Lorgar and Angron headed to Ultramar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, as we open the cast up, Brad talked about talking crap on the ultramarines.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote the notes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see how this goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, cough, lorgar, arabic, and corfare on, or all line, what's going to happen next, although different paths come into this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Corfare on its path sucked.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were never going to defeat the ultramarines.
[SPEAKER_00]: They could, they didn't need to help me to defeat them.
[SPEAKER_00]: That wasn't what they were trying to do, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure horse one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, they were not ever this.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a different plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, their plan was to use a ruin storm, create enough problems and issues that a ruin storm would kick up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that would affect the cut the galaxy in half, which would separate ball, ultramar, all these areas from soul making it impossible for them to get there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was
[SPEAKER_00]: the ultramarine fleet were there and they were waiting for the word bearers to arrive.
[SPEAKER_00]: They arrived late, which I can just imagine Gilliman just being over the moon with anger, like a Swiss train conductor, like way on the foreigners, just like how dare you be late.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he does get angry or what's the word bearers do they do next, but he does start off pretty pissed off, just calling it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have in the past I should note here taken a lot of dumps all over the word bears.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's because their plans tend to fall apart in the end, to do student incompetence of the interests.
[SPEAKER_01]: Their plans have to fall apart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, we go, and credits roll, because they're the end.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: These plans don't really fall apart, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of achieve most of what they're trying to achieve.
[SPEAKER_00]: They do, because core fair and jacks it up, and we'll get there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: In Calth, it starts off really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Their plan was to attack the Ultramarines and create carnage.
[SPEAKER_00]: The while Arabist does his whole giant sacrifice and starts with a lot of cultists.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say, he creates one of the biggest rituals to go down.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, in the onset, war bears do great.
[SPEAKER_00]: They infiltrate as friends, a bunch of ships, and orbital platforms are on call, and then motor the crews there and take them over.
[SPEAKER_00]: They then get control of the Fetset platforms and so on scrap codes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They deem and few scrap codes.
[SPEAKER_00]: everything's in place and they begin their attack and I love this because when the attack begins Gilman assumes the wordbearers who are just incompetent is why they're firing his legion like they got the controls mixed up and which things were backwards that's how little he thinks the wordbearers that he's just convinced they're not firing on some purpose they're just idiots he doesn't get the impression stuff he got to figure that
[SPEAKER_01]: Cause is a huge battle, but cause sister planets get wrecked and they just nuke them into some just they do on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and this is the, but the story gets stupid, but kind of funny, because out of eventually, Lorgar and them do a full boy attack and they do an orbital bombardment on called killing millions in an instant at which point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gomen realizes, oh, you're attacking me and he calls Lordgar as such a ripping him a new A-hole over this by how I'm going to kill you when this I'm going to personally pull you arms out of their sockets.
[SPEAKER_00]: At which point, Lordgar does this weird thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the whole time that the wordbearers are attacking the Ultra Marines, the Ultra's are healing them saying, hey, stop shooting us, hey, stop shooting us, and the wordbearers are responding with silence.
[SPEAKER_00]: As soon as Gilliman starts shit talking, Lord Gard, Lord Gard, Little Gard, which on and gives them the incredibles.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got you almost called me monologue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my guy does a full monologue telling Gilliman, all the details of horse's betrayal, Esteban, every for no reason, by the way, just telling them all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And while he's given his way, Eribus is in my theory, just has casting fast with his head.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like now we're in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But after Lord God does his little speech of here's evidence going on, he then Gilman's shield is still thrown down.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to give him props on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: You talk to a wild amount of shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then immediately puts a summoning portal on the bridge of Gilman's ship.
[SPEAKER_00]: and a bunch of demons appear and up blowing the hole and it's sucking Gilliman into space, to which Laura goes full doctor evil and just leaves.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it'll all work out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Probably dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: What could go wrong?
[SPEAKER_00]: Gilliman goes Princess Leia episode eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I said it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know, as I did, just once when I went upset, just, you know, just traveling through there was one of the, oh, that seems that hard to watch and suck.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, anyway, but he is helmetless in space, soloing demons and word bearer.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to kill him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like basically walks back into another ship going, hey, I lost my ship.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I have this one?
[SPEAKER_00]: All the elements like, I mean, yeah, it's the kind of all yours.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want it,
[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, CORE FAIRON has taken control of the word bearers and call, and things were looking great.
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, CORE FAIRON is Luther.
[SPEAKER_00]: The ultramarines were taken by surprise.
[SPEAKER_00]: The word bearers had control or destroyed a lot of the orbital platforms.
[SPEAKER_00]: Gilman's flagship is ruined.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to put this part.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because when I was getting ready for this episode, I'll go into the notes.
[SPEAKER_01]: John has, oh yeah, the demon scene this was partying on Calv.
[SPEAKER_01]: for whatever reason in my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's still stuck in my mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is this giant demon that's DJing?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that is, I was thinking more, yeah, glow stick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking more, yeah, he's got T S still next to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rock.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just doing the same, this is just having a tie.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the party, you know, him just slaughtering people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, call this and go in great, but the ultra marines, then ultra marine, they take a look around and go, all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're on our back foot, but it is the word bears.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we got this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they can start finding all the holes in the word bears like counterattacking.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the core share on is a terrible.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't even a good master of faith.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was core fair on, as much as you hate Luther, I think core fair on is just such a failure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because he's also...
[SPEAKER_00]: They're equals.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're both useless.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just so funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that you've got this, you know, this, the side guys that are next to the primer.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Arabis is doing this comically evil stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's definitely got great plans.
[SPEAKER_01]: Corfans plant suck.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've always suck.
[SPEAKER_01]: They always will suck.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just, you know, fails every single time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to be fair, like, to be fair is a dude who they gave a bunch of PEDs to
[SPEAKER_00]: Gilman was going to defeat Lorgar in this one, but Lorgar might be able to hold out for a little bit because he's a primarke.
[SPEAKER_00]: The processing power between these two aren't even close.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Gilman has starts winning the battles.
[SPEAKER_00]: At the same time, one of the majoruses with the Ultramarines is a cure to the scrap code.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he says, hey, if we give the orbital platforms, because what the, I didn't mention the wordbearers were also doing was trying to destroy the moon.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I'm sorry, the, I'm mixing up my movies.
[SPEAKER_00]: and just trying to destroy the sun by putting of cough.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, they can't do my rule.
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole world, not, but kind of supernova the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they poison their radiation forever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Off of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's not going to go great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so Gilliman, they discover, hey, if we just go down to these oral platforms, we can install this new code and it'll stop it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Gilliman leads the charge down there.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're wrecking over the oral platforms.
[SPEAKER_00]: CoreFound sees this and goes, I'm gonna do something about this, loser.
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets down there and he does success losing work-powered psychics, drop, and get them in pretty quickly.
[SPEAKER_00]: They can't barely paralyze it.
[SPEAKER_00]: and he goes to run over to kill him, but it's then trying to kill Gillham and the core founds will be he just sucks.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a super jealous of Arab us exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wanted to show he can do it even better and make it happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he stabs Bobby G and Bobby G.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he stabs him with a demon in his blade that's meant to turn Bobby G over to put him the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is Bobby G just fully resistant is like, yeah, and good to hear.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and pulls off a collie ma in return on course that run by punching a hole in his chest and pulling one of his hearts out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do love this to do describe this in detail.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he uses the claws of his power fist to go through Corferon's power armor into his body and pulls one of the hearts out while looking at him with a sword stuck in him going like what else you got bitch.
[SPEAKER_00]: Corferon does then run away very quickly runs away, but Gilman's got a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the problem he's got is he's got two things happening at once.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they stopped the sun going supernova, but it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: firing off so much radiation at the same time, on call.
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got word bears and demons wrecking.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Gilliman also sees the ruin storm closing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he orders as much evacuation of call as he can get and tells everyone else to go underground and we're going to fight underground because with all the radiation that even the radiation so I would just even a space green and
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what I do like about this is that first off, the people of Calth, they do that she win this battle.
[SPEAKER_00]: They do this because their alter means of course they're going to win it, but also go when it comes back later during the scouring.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, the battle for Calth is not technically concluded yet, because he got converted over to a crusade.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the crusade will only end when every single word bear is dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will turn means he took some offense to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The murderers were successful in this.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did make a maelstrom at the same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also will mark the end of Corfaron in the horrors heresy, because Corfaron escaped with his only one remaining art and got to a ship, Gilman decided that ship wasn't leaving the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he begins chasing the ship down with his thing and just starts destroying it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But before it can be destroyed, Corferon opens up a portal and takes himself to a planet within the warp called the Sikarius, which is a demon world within the Eye of Terror.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll cover it later, we'll later become the home world for the word bears.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the end of, this is the end of Corferon, the horse heresy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gone now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, he will not reappear.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let's jump back to Lorgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar did not leave Calf as a coward.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he has my hat a much, oh yeah, and a good one actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: His plan was that the Ruinstrom Arabis was going to make over there, was going to be big, but it needs more fuel.
[SPEAKER_00]: So his idea was, I'll make that Ruinstrom so large, the galaxy will be cut in half.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ultramar does sit in the lower right portion of the galaxy, but a storm here could separate so much of the imperium's holdings, but more importantly, it'll separate him, and it'll separate ball, and it will separate a little bit of the dark angels, so they just sever as a giant chop, which is critical for this war effort.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chorus can travel, and his force can travel on the warp even during a ruined storm because the chaos gods allow and troll the restore bits, they'll allow it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Imperium can not, so the loyalists would get trapped.
[SPEAKER_00]: His idea is just a giant campaign of slaughter.
[SPEAKER_00]: The wordbearers would be the first line of the insult.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, after the Ottoman placements, the role leaders in anger on what they're going to go in.
[SPEAKER_00]: And just wrecking all, and they're just killing stuff while wordbearers sorcerers are behind them, effectively channeling the death.
[SPEAKER_00]: So during this campaign of slaughter, where they're just feeding all this death into the warp, Lord Garnner says anger on the losing himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's not just lead back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Others that lose himself like he can't stay focused.
[SPEAKER_01]: The butchers nails are killing Angron.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is going to die from them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Angron's going to die.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, Laura makes a plan to save Angron.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's interesting, though, is the exact same time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eribus learns of corn's plan for corn.
[SPEAKER_00]: So both the primarcan arabas leave ultramar to head back to the world leaders home of new Syria to aid their respective champions in their ascensions.
[SPEAKER_00]: We cover us in the world here's class.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll not go too much and do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they get to new Syria and anger on discovers that the slavers that had controlled him had killed all his friends and then had shit talked to him as a coward after he left.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he decides to kill every single lip.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can believe it, everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my first literal in a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing so good about not saying in a hundred times and a row.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so proud of myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I pat myself on the back if I didn't have little T-Rex arms.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's also just bad shoulders, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you go with any of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, both.
[SPEAKER_01]: Check all little, little columny, little columny.
[SPEAKER_00]: So while Andy runs doing this murder fest, Lord Garth has building a ritual pit.
[SPEAKER_00]: not too long to this, the ultramarines arrived in orbit because Gilliman wasn't overly pleased with what the world leaders and word bears had been doing on ultramar, he thought, you know what, he was like, I was going to do a strongly word in email, but I think I'm just going to show up instead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have a plan and you guys aren't gonna like my plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the first couple of things happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: First, Gilliman confronts the Lord God as beating the crap out of him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And just as Gilliman's about to kill Lord God, Angron jumps him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to give a little bit of shit on your boy because he starts fighting anger on eventually here on a comical ex from act be he's literally sitting above the boulder that the coyote has tied over top of it but I do love this next part though that's anger on a guillotine or fighting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar pulls up his ritual.
[SPEAKER_00]: and and Ron turns into a full demon brimark in front of Gilliman.
[SPEAKER_00]: And two Gilliman's credit, Gilliman that I'ma goes, yeah, nah, nah, nah.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is this a bit much.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'ma go ahead and go home now.
[SPEAKER_00]: This, there's weight classes to this, but these fights in this system.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is now above my mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: The feather weights don't fight super heavies just in general.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go figure something out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be back, but I'm not doing this right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes to leave.
[SPEAKER_00]: While all this is happening though, a much more important thing happens with aerobus and card.
[SPEAKER_00]: Argal Tal, as we've mentioned before, and Lorgar, they've been bonding quite a bit, Argal has been possessed by a demon.
[SPEAKER_00]: but not like control in the demons in his realm.
[SPEAKER_00]: The him and realm are kind of shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: But all is actually talking vents to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all how it should be.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's what I like.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those arcle and realm almost befriended each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he has conversations with the demon in that's possessing his body with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they share control.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like focus when getting out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Argo is a great warrior, and with the demon infusion, one of the things it made him better, and so one thing he'd been doing is he'd been going to the fighting pits within the world leaders, cast his skills, and he and Karn had built a friendship there, like they're doing and laughing together, like a buddy caught movie, but instead they're horrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the first, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: A buddy caught movie, except they slaughtered it since constantly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's not, I mean, I know there are good cops.
[SPEAKER_00]: Arabist, though, is not a huge fan of Artletal, as we said before.
[SPEAKER_00]: He recruited Artletal, but Artletal kind of betrayed him, got them recruitment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Artletal is very, now getting very close to Lordgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's affecting Arabist's ability to influence Lordgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the biggest problem is Artletal and Kar's friendship is going to be a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Arabist knows that Kar is a chosen favorite of corn.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, Erivis has a plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: The irony, by the way, is that Lorgar is helping Angron become like the demon prince for corn.
[SPEAKER_00]: Erivis knows who corn really wants, though, which is card.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because they, we have stated this, there's multiple favorites of the gods that are not the primary.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Karna thing is the most extreme.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's Karna and Typhus.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the same Typhus most wildly more tiny.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Karna is though.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you think about what Typhus does, versus what Karna does, Karna is the most corn thing ever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Typhus is pro-neurgle.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not like Karna, but she did the authoritarian about how he is so this Karna.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tota's card, it's just, I don't know, it charges the lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever, carn school is kind of my thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, the issue is that our Arabist realized that Argo tall and carn their friendship is giving carn joy in the universe, which is something that'll keep carn in the material.
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs carn to only see the value of slaughter for the blood God.
[SPEAKER_00]: So as this battles a great story of how awful Arabic is, by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the battle in New Syria is commencing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Arabic goes to Arnold Holland says, hey, a constant danger, you need to go save him because the altruism is going to kill him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that carnival die here on New Syria to the forces of the Ultramarines.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Argo is both a hell of a warrior, and a good friend of Karn, so he just rushes off to go save him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And his demon buddy, Raul.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they start slaughtering all these Ultramarines, killing them by the dozens, just ripping through.
[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually he does meet up with Karn, who is in trouble to be fair, wasn't this wasn't a lie, Karn was in trouble.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they even fight side by something.
[SPEAKER_00]: It should find the back to back at one point, which is stupidity shit, but I said no, because there's bullets.
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, and they're doing this whole thing, but after the battle, Argos is staying in an Arabist reappearance.
[SPEAKER_00]: really good scene of the book.
[SPEAKER_00]: In which Arabic starts to talk to Argo about Karn.
[SPEAKER_00]: But how, yeah, I have a great hope for the eighth captain.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so again, because Ron is just going, no, stab this dude in the face.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Ron really, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Round is freaking out inside of Argo's head, screaming, kill him, kill him.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a trap.
[SPEAKER_00]: He tricked us to using up all of our energy, kill him now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Argo's telling round, shut up, I'm trying to listen to Argo's.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as turns around, Argo's jams in and ate them a dagger into Argo's spine, killing him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he tells him as he dies, that he has to die, so that one day, Karn may truly
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, fun thing on that though.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, our goal is dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone finds our goal dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lurgar, not a big fan of this, tells Karn, like, hey, you know, you're still running by the way, galaxy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the entire galaxy, yeah, Arabists, stop in the back, to which Karn challenges Arabists to a duel.
[SPEAKER_00]: In the fighting pits, and Arabists goes, nah, I'm sure that's partying.
[SPEAKER_00]: and a two of them have a duel.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Karn is beating the ever-living crap out of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Erabus knows he has zero chance.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is all a set up in this, too, because Erabus is in effect doing the Star Wars Siffler thing, was showing the power of anger and slaughter.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as he's getting walloped by Karn, he is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just before he's able to kill him, he just makes a portal with disappears.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's all right about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Still angry and they're basically exactly now this is the part where Lorgar though also turns on a horse at this stage
[SPEAKER_01]: Look at, well, let's listen, look at really things that he is the chosen of chaos and should be in charge because he is the chosen of chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the one that's going to bring the galaxy under the thumb of the chaos gods.
[SPEAKER_01]: I should be running this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I discovered for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I discovered them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know the truth.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm bringing them into the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also think part of it is to defend Lorgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he recognizes that Horace is becoming a puppet of the Chaos Guards, and Lorgar is not.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he actually is not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: You will let that's the thing with Lorgar.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that all of this change when he saw that Fulgram was possessed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when the gods are just taking over, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, lead like I do the interesting thing to me here is I think of Lord Gar at this stage is very similar to Abadon later.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where Abadon later goes, all right, I don't trust any of these cascads, but I do need them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to figure it away to work around them and with them, but not for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar sees that a Horace is failing in that, and he knows that the Dark Gods will eventually pull Horace in different directions because the Dark Gods aren't going to be satisfied with defeating the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're only satisfied with one of them also being the victor.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Lorgar knows this, Horace doesn't, so Lorgar decides it's time for a leadership change.
[SPEAKER_00]: The heresy was started by Horace, but it was being finished by Lorgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, Arabis has known all that the entire god damn time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Arabis has known the entire time.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not about the chorus.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, horse probably consumed by KS gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: Arabis just wants to see the Imperium fall and chaos with.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes the other direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas Lorgar says, I have to supplant horse and take over.
[SPEAKER_00]: Aribus goes, I had to be a better puppeteer of all.
[SPEAKER_01]: He, that's a better plan, but also there wasn't another plan for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a primer.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not following him.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's not.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what he does is he decides that we can get burned.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's right after everything about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't just decide what it was going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: It really is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Horace's half conscious for the next like chunk of it in the Aribus.
[SPEAKER_00]: He says, oh yeah, he said this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Abidine don't so pissed when he sees the
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just, the, the ashamed of him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Abid on still wants to kill air.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what we're going to break now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to break because next week we're going to cover, we'll finish us off next week with word bears, the conclusion of the heresy and then their actions post heresy because as we get now into the later part of the heresy,
[SPEAKER_00]: more guys about to get a pretty solid kick in the teeth really bad one actually but also post heresy they're one of the more active of the chaos legions stay active because yeah they don't some of the guys who disappear for a while out white scars disappear but like
[SPEAKER_01]: But I see it because I, it's one of my first things that I played in 40k and when you back then I literally, I was telling you before the cast I played world leaders, I played iron warriors and I played word bears because they were one of the most prolific summoners.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were OP.
[SPEAKER_00]: We know how you put here.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: Nothing wrong with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had pool lord.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I played.
[SPEAKER_01]: I started there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I literally started with lord.
[SPEAKER_00]: But word of words have.
[SPEAKER_00]: The word bears have very.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're so influential.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what makes them cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like reading my World War One and being like, Oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys just weren't involved in everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So until next week, John Barsotti brought just their disguise.
[SPEAKER_00]: See you guys then.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.