[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, is up everybody!
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to Comic Book Club.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Alex.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Justin.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Pete, and we are coming to you live from a couple places on the internet.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, a little bit of a programming note here, we were supposed to have the legendary Billy West on the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, sorry, Pete, we had some technical errors.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we will be talking to him about his excellent book,
[SPEAKER_03]: Voice a verse finding my voice is behind the mic, which is coming out from Abrams press on July 14th, 2026.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've read it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely pick it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be talking to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, another time not tonight because it just did not work out, but don't worry.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a good job for you.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to do all of Billy West's voices.
[SPEAKER_03]: So here we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pete hit us up with that Red and Stippy.
[SPEAKER_03]: You go ahead.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a perfect professor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Farmsworth, Alex.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was a perfect profession founds with.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was actually like I'm kind of glad you're not here He did the joke or I was actually kind of scared to have it here because I was worried that I was gonna slip into some voices The most embarrassing thing that possibly could happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: You think you were gonna slip into voices because of consciously
[SPEAKER_03]: You would just start doing rents, empty out of nowhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do, Zoidburg and Professor Farmsworth, which turns out as the Joker, around the house all the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, wrong house, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're an Zoid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just while cleaning it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Zoids.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're doing Zoidburg while you clean it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, maybe I'm doing Zoidburg.
[SPEAKER_03]: And again, that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's good enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my Billy's not here because Alex did that and it was weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: I said to Patate that I was like, this is what to expect.
[SPEAKER_03]: See you later.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, why don't you just do it then if you think you're so so I'd burg.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Billy West.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's actually true.
[SPEAKER_02]: I used to drink in a bar called Billy Mark's West and I was going to ask me if he's the same person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, as I said, we are definitely going to have him on.
[SPEAKER_03]: But since we do not have a guest this evening, instead, we're going to talk a little bit about movie news, Marvel, DC, movie news.
[SPEAKER_03]: We can also, I think, just go ahead and open it up to questions as well if anybody has any questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't open the door?
[SPEAKER_02]: It is open.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're Lucy Goosey, this episode is what's going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, first of all,
[SPEAKER_03]: When we talk about Supergirl, that's coming out later this week.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll mention I got to see it at a screening yesterday.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Pete doesn't want to know what I'm going to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll ask you guys lots of talk about this movie and we can get into some of the talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: But how are you feeling about it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you hyped?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you excited?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you nervous?
[SPEAKER_03]: Angry?
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you feeling?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm hyped.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the criticisms that have been lodged at this movie, lob, even at this movie, are about it feeling like old school superhero movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I see that, but it looks really fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like a good version of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: My crusade is against bloated plot in superhero movies, and this one doesn't feel like it has that based on the trailer.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot of fighting and a lot of being disaffected and disillusioned
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's also to that point when I don't remember the exact stat, but it's definitely one of the shortest superhero movies for a really long time.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like an hour and 48 minutes, including credits, which I see a lot of people, which I think is a cluster credits or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pete do you I don't understand you because you're like don't tell me whether you liked it or didn't like it But you want to know if there's a well, I'm just wanting to show I stay in my seat or so I get up and leave I don't want to know anything about you think the craftsman and crafts women who worked of this movie deserve to get tribute or do you think their pieces of trash who deserve to you just a dump your popcorn Corn on the floor and leave which would you wouldn't I wouldn't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just a white Boy, sorry, by craft people are you talking about the popcorn makers is that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about the people in real movie makers.
[SPEAKER_03]: The people who make my twizzlers by hand, lovingly every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you got the dirty whizzlers?
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't even, I think, skipping day.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm starting to feel like maybe they just touch my twizzlers as what's going on, but I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't prove that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can't prove it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I bet you can.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you got twizzards at taste like fingers twizzards usually don't taste like fingers And here's a thing touching eating a twizzard that's been touched by other hands I'm not a germaphob in fact my family is like I think I'm gross because I eat I'm regular about germs
[SPEAKER_02]: But the idea of touching a dirty...
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, what is your particular about germs mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like I'm fine with germs.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think germs are good because then you germs are good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you're like a...
[SPEAKER_01]: So you're legit.
[SPEAKER_01]: The poll on the subway, you're just like, oh man, germs are good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when that story came through about RFK taking a raccoon's penis that he found beside the road off of the corpse of a raccoon, I was like, sounds like a Monday to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Would it was that story weird to you guys?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I said it sounded like a Tuesday to me, but I guess we're different people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, see, you don't want to be the early bird gets the raccoon fetus.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like to let it cook at the side a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about Supergirl, was that what we were talking about?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, there is no.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is no aftercredits scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I was wondering.
[SPEAKER_01]: You could've just said that instead of fucking berating me, you piece of shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do have a strike.
[SPEAKER_02]: We a new our new big catchphrase dropped on a podcast we did last night and Zack from Thompson Comic Corner is here in the chat with our new catchphrase that you'll hear in his episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Put some sugar on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe it was put some sugar on that name.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the even more grosser thing that Alex said.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so definitely check that out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: So Pete, how are you feeling other than your question, surprising question about the after credit scene?
[SPEAKER_03]: How are you feeling about Supergirl?
[SPEAKER_03]: You hype to nervous?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm excited for Lobo.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm nervous about the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was hoping for better reviews, but yeah, I haven't seen any of the trailers.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going in like a newborn baby, a fresh to the idea of this movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm excited for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you ever made hard sense?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are there any before credit scenes?
[SPEAKER_03]: Alex, is there anything that happens before and actually it was really weird are they probably walked into the theater and one of my fellow critics Conct me on the head and the whole movie after that was just black and stars and I was like oh, it's in space
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I woke up an hour and 48 minutes later and just left the theater got my nice hand touch to his layers and that was good to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's me in touch.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a handmade hand made.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a hand touch.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great beer to say hand touched.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I do what I do as I'm an artist and I go to the movie theater and I untwist the twizzles And then I twizzle the back up No for the untwizz JT twizz whizz Twizz whizz JT says Here's your dirty snacks
[SPEAKER_03]: for I just think what Billy West is missing and let's be clear we would be having the same conversation and he was here also he would be here joining us with this Twizzler conversation yeah that by the way probably joking but I'm not when I'm ever so sure asking about mid-seed cred oh mid-seed cred it's I see right now
[SPEAKER_02]: I think people should get paid for their work in the middle of the scenes I want to see an actor I want to see a studio ref walk out with a check to the actors like right out there on Yeah, it's Anthony Mackie, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who does that apparently after every take as soon as they call cut?
[SPEAKER_03]: He yells cut the check.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Cut the check.
[SPEAKER_02]: Same cut is short for cut the check.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: that's uh... that's going to go right that's going to go pretty quickly i mentioned after every scene that would be annoying hey man we have eighty more days of shooting on this movie that no one will like
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pete, why don't you take my headphones I'm not going to go long on this because I will say that the socially embargo is up, but the review embargo is not up, so I won't talk it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Link, I thought it was okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I mean, that positively reviews of everything lately have been over.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, I mean, I can get more into that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I've been thinking a lot about movies being fired.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't fine, but like this is a big suburb for movies that are like, yeah, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, not bad, just not life-changing, not franchise-defining or anything like that, just like, yeah, that's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is, I'm sad Pete has headphones off for this, but what is the last movie or even TV show that you saw that you were like, that was excellent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I've seen a head on House of the Dragon, and I thought the second episode was electrifying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also Vampire Listot, which is running on the AMC right now, is thrilling.
[SPEAKER_03]: Every episode is like mind-blowingly incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, I had imagined I'd seen them do the live show after the premiere of Vampire Listot, where the main actor Sam Reed performed live incredible experience, absolutely incredible.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, there are things that I trust me, like I've done a mental check be like, my broken, do I just about make anything?
[SPEAKER_03]: But now I like stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I read Dungeon Crawler Carl this weekend, and I was like, I don't check out what this is about and literally read the whole thing of what day I was like, this is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm having a blast reading this thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I'm like you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have it right here.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, yes, there are things that I like, I just feel like a lot of these suburb movies or just like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's fine, you know, but there are other ways of talking about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just thinking about it from the direction of a viewer who goes into a movie theater.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, yeah, all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there's critical thoughts certainly that I have.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are thoughts that I have about like the overall franchise and business that don't actually impact me because I don't invest in Warner Bros or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But just in terms of the peer-reviewing experience, I think people would be like, yeah, I don't
[SPEAKER_02]: great.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be so happy he didn't have to hear that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, actually Thompson says, I thought the same thing for Toy Story 5.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll take that away for Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: He doesn't want any Toy Story 5 spoilers, but yeah, same thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's, you go in and you're like, yeah, it's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pete, you can put your headphones back up.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: could have done it a while ago we weren't actually talking about the movie we're just talking about uh... critical thoughts in general about just criticism uh... i said we're not so are you talking about how you're too hard on things is that what you're talking about now i'm actually the opposite if anything you really should have been listening at second um... i said to us right five uh... on sunday and i agree just not i thought it was going to be so much more
[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it was okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I still cried at points and they were points that may be like laugh a little bit And there's some beautiful animation in it, but it's like, yeah, this is fine There you go.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's all All right, super girl though to talk a little
[SPEAKER_03]: big picture about it without getting it to review stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are a lot of box office worries for this tracking notoriously unreliable and I think it's even kind of getting worse frankly as it's been going.
[SPEAKER_03]: They don't know how to track things properly.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've seen that with obsession,
[SPEAKER_03]: Mandalorian, a grogoo, master's theaters, everything has been wildly all over the place for at least the past couple of months, not longer, but for Supergirl, it was initially tracking when ticket sales opened for $55 million opening, which is fine, like a solid opening, then the tracking went down to $50 billion and recently it went down to a $40 million opening.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, particularly because Toy Story 5 is doing so incredibly well at the box office.
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you feel about that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that making you worried about the future of the DCU or do you think it's a non-factor?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I mean, hard to talk about the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they have at least a little bit more rope to run on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think for the DCU, there's, I mean, lanterns coming, we'll see.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have a couple of things in the consolation that, as long as they don't all fail, they will still have some room to run, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the larger issue of it is, I think audiences are just changing in general.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the way people view stuff isn't like bang, bang, I'm definitely going.
[SPEAKER_02]: People are a little more like, let me see, like the way that obsession has grown and expanded so intensely over its run is a big indicator there with like a young gradients.
[SPEAKER_02]: That room's succeeded the opposite way by wildly having a huge opening and then dropping off like superhero movies do But it was made for so much less money that they knew how to make the movie for the audience they already had so that I think That 40 feels very low, especially dropping 5 million and then another 10 that does seem like it indicates that ticket sales are pretty far off from what they want it to be But I think it will outdoof a middle and land around 50
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you, let me ask you just a one of you, are you seeing it this weekend?
[SPEAKER_02]: I will be upstate this weekend and my mom's 70th birthday.
[SPEAKER_02]: So my weekend is going to be mostly eaten by that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think I might try to sneak out on Sunday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll be on the very southern tip of the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, get counted on deadline.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my gosh, there's stuff up Sunday morning.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll call deadline during the college at 18 idiots.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I think to expand on what you're saying, Justin, what we're seeing and now to get to box office wonky or anything is there are still things that are like you've got to see this opening weekend, like clearly Toy Story 5 did incredibly, and I think it was like the biggest opening for Toy Story Movie at number two for Pixar.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's huge Spider-Man Brad New Day.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be enormous as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of heat on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And
[SPEAKER_03]: I think part of the things to connect those two things in particular is there's been a lot of space between the last of those movies which people liked.
[SPEAKER_03]: People liked Toy Story 4.
[SPEAKER_03]: They like Spider-Man no way home.
[SPEAKER_03]: and you've had what six or seven years between each or something, maybe a little less it's no way home, but there's been a huge amount of space there, so you've had anticipation an excitement build-up where people are like, oh cool, this thing that I liked is back versus Supergirl, it is a new character.
[SPEAKER_03]: but also you have the super band community come out last summer and this is pivoting off of that and that one was people were like yeah I like it you know and most there were people who are definitely more positive but it didn't destroy at the box office or anything like that so I think it's feeling a little bit of that fatigue and it'll be interesting to I don't think it's going to affect Billy Alcock or anything like that I don't think that there people like her
[SPEAKER_03]: yeah people like her she's going to be in man of tomorrow and presumably whatever future plans if they get to do them uh but I think you know there's the you bet you wrote there's a certain point that rope is going to run out one question I think they have two more movies as long as it it isn't
[SPEAKER_02]: a crater.
[SPEAKER_02]: I bet they have two more mid movies before there's consequences.
[SPEAKER_03]: Play face coming out this fall and then that's going to be tomorrow next low budget.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's going to have play face.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be huge because it's also it's hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like people are going to get the like, uh, where's Batman, that annoying grape, but getting a cool body hard movie set in Gotham City that costs, yeah, like you're saying, $20, $30 million.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus, if it is based on feed of clay, the animated series episode,
[SPEAKER_02]: that's a amazing story.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the kind of movie that will grow.
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I'm worried are interested to hear from you guys is, you know, normally when there's a big kind of summer movie coming out, like I'm being berated with ads and stuff like that, I didn't hear much for a Supergirl.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was no like
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of just like all right I know it's coming this weekend it's more like oh shit it's this weekend already so i'm wondering if did you guys see a lot of ads do you think that the budget was there for advertising or yes but and i'm sure just a good talk a lot more about this nobody knows where or how to advertise for literally anything anymore i didn't see a lot of stuff on blue sky about comic book writers and artists lamented like
[SPEAKER_03]: gots at the demise of CBR and news romo where do you even advertise things I really missed those days and I'm like well it exists just we're all getting wildly different feeds wildly different views of things all the time and this is what bring it back to movies like this is what movie companies movie production companies and studios are dealing with is like how do we actually reach the right people
[SPEAKER_03]: And sorry, Justin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there's a lot to talk about in that regard because the way a lot of movies TV shows and cultural events are it's all through co-bear and now there's no more Yeah, that's one of the craziest answers you could have said but you nailed
[SPEAKER_02]: There's this thing that's happening clipping where there's these new companies that take a clip from Whatever like you're out in front of a billboard for the supergram movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like yo, this movie's going to be sick and They take that they have like, you know 3,000 dummy accounts all push that video
[SPEAKER_02]: and that gets into the algorithm, the algorithms on Instagram, Twitter, or TikTok are like, this is cool, 3,000 people are talking about this, let's push it to everybody, suddenly you have a vibe of sort of fake viral thing generating interest.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's the way a lot of studios and you know, taste makers are spending some money and gaming the algorithm a bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other side of the advertising is it's like a or such a top heavy everything culture now where if you have a lot of money You advertise on NFL or major sporting events.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can get your stuff at least seen in entering that conversation at the top
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's really hard like you're saying Alex to come in in the middle, which is what movies used to do all the time, where it's like your trailer airs during 60 minutes if it's for an older audience or you know on friends if it's for like a little bit of a younger audience and now it's just messy so no one knows how to spend money.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm watching things like I watch send a help last night when we have ads on our Amazon I think it was out of no hulu.
[SPEAKER_02]: And every ad is the same and it's run twice in each commercial break.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like this is maddening and makes me angry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can this be different?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just don't know why that is an ad spend that seems to be working for people because to me it's very frustrating experience.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like I was saying, like you're saying, Justin, things are all over the place.
[SPEAKER_03]: People don't know exactly where to spend or how to spend.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the advertising is certainly out there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I attend to a congressional directly, Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I have seen it in a lot of different places, but that's probably only because I'm doing
[SPEAKER_03]: even one search for supergirl, and then suddenly it's all over my feed.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're not doing that, it doesn't come up anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, instead you're getting whatever you're getting, the vacations to Disney World, or HBO Max ads, or literally any other sort of thing that's taking up that space, the other things are conversations are happening in different places.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a non-insignificant part of the success of backgrounds, not to get back to it, but like
[SPEAKER_03]: That has its own mythology that has been built up for years at this point like an MCU movie, but for kids who were on social media talking about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's the same.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why it did so well, it's because it was like, oh man, the backrooms movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is an IP.
[SPEAKER_02]: Genuine interest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: That they have never received before so they want to see it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And
[SPEAKER_03]: The MCU at this point, where almost two decades in, the DCU, yes, it's a new universe, but it's also a universe based on comic books that have been coming out since the 1930s, and if the second iteration immediately picking up on a previous iteration of a universe that didn't work.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, and, like, crashed and burned completely, so they're basically having to work the way out of a whole the entire time.
[SPEAKER_03]: So,
[SPEAKER_03]: All of this stuff gets at a head-y soup of working against the blanket marketing of the movie because it's just not showing up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's interesting to me because I think talking about Spider-Man and talking about doomsday.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think both those movies are going to do really well sort of, if they're, if they're good movies, I think that will be even more additive, but I bet they do well just in general, which flies in the face of our entire theory that we're talking about, which is like, make something good and people get fans and people will talk about it and you will succeed.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's like a little bit of,
[SPEAKER_02]: last flash of the old guard, where it, it's somehow short circuits a system and is enough of event, both those movies, that it must be seen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Supergirl for some reason can't break through that, in the culture, and I don't know why that is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll throw out a very simple, I think, comic book movie reason for that is, I've mentioned this one completely in times of the show, but
[SPEAKER_03]: The pattern with Warner Brothers with movies is they're like we got to do a super bad movie and they put out a super mad movie and it does pretty well and then they're like great
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do more movies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's try Batman movie and they do a Batman movie and it destroys and everybody's like I love Batman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's go see Batman.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're obsessed with Batman.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's another superman movie People like I'm all right Yeah, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're like, oh, okay Let's cancel literally all of the plans that we had our entire universe and just do Batman movies because that's the only thing's work And frankly they're kind of right like
[SPEAKER_03]: the quality of super gorilla or anything like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Super girl is seed is like lesser than super man, which is already a lesser place to start.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love super bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not a judgment of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is more in terms of the box office, the way the world sees it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Versus something that I've been thinking about a lot, and I always forget the exact numbers.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I remember, this is a years ago, guy who ran Marvel's website told me
[SPEAKER_03]: They did a study where they put different characters in the banner images to like click through to get on the Marvel website Like so it's banner images.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like readboard about these comments.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, click if Any character was like in fetishable change you put spider-man up there and it was like
[SPEAKER_03]: exponentially, just like Spider-Bad's head, people were like, click, very interesting, and then what they found out at least at the time, you put Wolverine's head, it was like 50 times bigger than that, and it was the same ad with the same text that everything, it was just looking at Spider-Bad or looking at Wolverine that you're of people in, and so that's why,
[SPEAKER_03]: But it box office and movies are spider bad movies, draw people in Wolverine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, draw people in.
[SPEAKER_02]: But here's the mistake I think studios make Marvel and DC make.
[SPEAKER_02]: They think it's like, look at this image.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so, it draws people and it's like, no, that's an icon.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a bridge to the story that you know about these characters that you love.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Wolverine story, Wolverine's more about his character.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a cool character.
[SPEAKER_02]: You like, what he does, who he is, and the mystery surrounding.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's the best of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the best at what he does, and what he does is snicked, and be sure, and drink beer without consequences.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Spider-Man, like Pete, Spider-Man, it's his story, Batman, it's his story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, in Supergirl, we don't know her story really.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think culturally, the culture is saying, Superman, we know his story, but for some reason, there's not quite enough twist in it or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not enough even though he's entire family for Superman I was saying oh Okay, even I mean both of them technically their planet dies their parents die like these other characters There's something about Superman that like just a little bit short circuits the that tragic Uprising up that the we love about the hero arc of Spider-Man and Batman
[SPEAKER_03]: And Wolverine in his own way, so I think at least part of it, this is necessarily true of Wolverine, but like the appeal of Spider-Man is like I can get bit by a spider and gained powers that I'd be a good guy to hear in Queens and I think it's kind of the same thing with Batman or it's like
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, yeah, man, if my parents got killed in front of me, I'd totally trade and become a total badass.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's absolutely, I mean, that's at least part of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think for some people versus Superman, you can never be Superman, and that's at least one of the points of Superman, is he is always trying to be more human, while you are striving to be more Superman.
[SPEAKER_02]: same.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always saying shoot me and see if they finally bounce on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I eat a crazy about a green rocks to see if they hurt me and every time they do.
[SPEAKER_03]: They do Yeah, I'm trying to get a hard-green rock.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know series up your insides You know, see where doesn't have to eat the crevice Correct, yeah, I don't think you need to go go inside Just touch the green rock when the other thing is there's a there's a fallacy that studios have all the time and how they would in general Where it's like this movie is successful.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're so fucking good at this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we're so good at this
[SPEAKER_02]: And then like this would fail.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like dumb characters sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move on to a better character that we can succeed again because we're good at this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I think if you were to like, wow, we nailed that story, that story resonates.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I hope the clayfade.
[SPEAKER_02]: I so hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I hope Clayface works because that then maybe there's going to be some good lessons learned of A character adjacent like they've all been trying to do but good story low budget.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well executed will all work for the rest of the time I swear to god like iron man It's a perfect example.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it started as this all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody knew iron man, you know, but it was a funny movie You know, it before it was a good thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was great
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And on the clay face thing, I 100% agree with you, just like I know you, I'm just repeating what you said, but like low budget, hard movie, set in a superhero universe, not connected to like it's it's own story.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not necessarily connected to anything else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if that does well, and I think it will do well, if Marvel doesn't look at that and be like, oh yeah, I guess we can do blade.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy exactly such a good cop because they've had blades sitting on their plate So long the virtual Ali is like what what more do I have to do Now this movie Seven years ago It is it's crazy to me and I'm sure I haven't seen this reported anywhere, so this is me just like wildly speculating But I'm sure at least part of it just like
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to spend $250 million on this blade movie, but I don't think we're going to make that back.
[SPEAKER_03]: How do we do that?
[SPEAKER_03]: When the answer is make a $15 million blade movie, make a great, exactly what Todd McFarlane was talking about with Spawn, a hundred or so unless we do that with blade.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just go wild, do it rogue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't worry about like we're starting a franchise or anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just do a nuts blade movie because that's what we want to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just going to say, I think it's fucked up that you guys gave me shit for a really long time about, you know, not be able to walk by a puddle with those and he says he eats green rocks and where I've already moved on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you guys could walk by the same puddle and really go to town.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alex takes the rocks, peat takes the ooze, what am I going to do?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what's your weakness to take us to the hospital again?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, I guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm, well, I've always wanted to be a hospital man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, this is an EMT, I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, we've got to go a little walkie talk about the box.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to throw out more of like a speculative, hopefully fun thing here on the blue carpet for a super girl in Brooklyn on Monday.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the producers of DC Studios, not Peter Saffron, not James God, was talking, was asked like, where are we going to see carrots or all again?
[SPEAKER_03]: He was saying, well, we definitely know she's going to be in Maddox tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_03]: You'll see kind of where she's at at the end of Supergirl and how she ends up.
[SPEAKER_03]: in this movie, but we have plans beyond that.
[SPEAKER_03]: We know we're going, you mentioned Clayface, you mentioned lanterns, he said, we've got Man of Tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_03]: We know what happens after Man of Tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so this is like crazy in the future because we don't know what happens in Man of Tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_03]: But what do you think is after that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because something that I was thinking about is like, James Gunn, lot of Lee has the, we're not going to announce anything before the script is ready, but also we don't know what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, the half of the man of tomorrow or the man of the next week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, give a thought about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm surprised if we didn't get another suicide squad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we've seen so many of those, we've seen so many similarly titled of those.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what would they call it, and suicide's quant, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they've been circulating Wonder Woman thoughts.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've been that that's been sort of in and out of the press.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Thompson's comic corner Zack says Justice Gang.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think they would go back to a Justice League?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's the old school comic way of certain.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like they're, I mean, this is based on three movies, but I feel like they're thinking about the super family as they're Avengers, which is a little weird because they're all kind of the same thing, essentially.
[SPEAKER_03]: But,
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to imagine that whatever they're talking about is beyond that, it's basically like if Manantumara was Superman 2, then we're talking about whatever Superman 3 is probably called.
[SPEAKER_02]: To do a trilogy, I guess, but everyone in the comments is actually crushing it right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh does suicide squad from Alexander which this suicide squad that tells it and uh suicide squad's dollar sign channel 19 which is all oh really good variations did I think Hollywood is listening
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I feel like another thing that came out of this carpet not to reverse conversations, but the same guy was asked whether they've sat down with David Ellison, who was the guy who was Paramount, which just bought Warner Brothers because a lot of people were worried about DC Studios.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he was like, yeah, he actually came to the set of Manotmaro.
[SPEAKER_03]: We showed it around.
[SPEAKER_03]: We talked to him about plans.
[SPEAKER_03]: He seems very supportive.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see what the future holds.
[SPEAKER_03]: Seems like a lot of locked up marketing talk to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just feel like,
[SPEAKER_03]: you got to do company coming in this has to start hit the ground running like I don't care from a quality perspective but for me being counter perspective you need these movies to start making money yeah it's it could go either way I think it could be a leg okay floodgates are open we have to make this work
[SPEAKER_02]: at least for a couple of years, three years.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's make a bunch of things across the map and see what happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like old school, bringstruck rolls up kind of thinking, or it's gonna be what you said Alex needs to be like, hey, hey, hey, hey, did everyone have two cups of coffee today?
[SPEAKER_02]: This movie's shut the fuck down.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go home.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're gonna make, we're just gonna do a documentary about how no one's working in this set.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Stanley says they need to crash track and Batman movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're making the Batman power, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is another thing that like once that movie crushes, I think where you get right back to that pattern I mentioned earlier, where they're like, oh, Batman movies work.
[SPEAKER_03]: Make more Batman movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: The fast-track.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've slow-tracked this movie like crazy and there's a lot of talk like we were just getting the script right I'm like bullshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is this is the multi-path creative that they weirdly chose here And they're just been slowly trying to be like, okay We have to do Batman because they were gonna do their own separate Batman Batman and now I feel like they're committing to Batman too, but like it's like Let's we gotta get to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... stribo it says do we think the bot man part two is the last battenson batman um... i don't know i think it's going to do really well i would still like you'd talk about the speed thing obviously taking a while to do everything anything about this but like we talked about towards the end of the penguin i would love to see the batman part two and then another tv series off of that i think
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they said Zoe Cravest is cat woman is not going to be in this movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: So getting her to do a one season HBO show like the Penguin, I think we'll be really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll be such a good guest show.
[SPEAKER_03]: So good.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then yeah, come back for the Batman Part 3 and finish it up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... baby just for time but i would love to see more of it because well i would love to see that maybe they can have to have a private screening at my funeral when it premieres are you already planning that
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm saying, it's a ways off, but they really take their time to get the script right on the screen.
[SPEAKER_03]: That meant part 3, 80 years for down, something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: We mentioned brand new day earlier, just to turn over and talk about the Marvel side.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you already seen that one too, Alex?
[SPEAKER_03]: I have not seen that one.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is not coming out for a solid bud.
[SPEAKER_03]: But just in, you want to talk about the new brand new day trailer.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do we think of this trailer?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's the trailer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can we take the office headphones?
[SPEAKER_02]: You've seen the trailer.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't watch the trailers when we get close to the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys know this.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're like an over a month out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't want that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because once you see the trailer, you start writing the movie in your head.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then when you go see the movie, it's not what you wanted.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get disappointed.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't watch the trailer.
[SPEAKER_01]: You go in, newborn baby.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a hard to do anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for being your beehive.
[SPEAKER_03]: What did you think Justin?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, but maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the trailer's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does feel like there's so much going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I feel like they do this with the spider-and-movies is they give us a lot of it feels like it ends up just being in the first 20 minutes of the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the hand feels out of place in the larger superstructure of this movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they're just the villains at the very beginning.
[SPEAKER_02]: the Punisher, the his body changing other storyline is feels very wildly mismatched.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know, it's a lot of all over the place, but the actors in this are so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great to see them back.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're emotionally tied into and we want to see how that's going to pay off.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we get enough of that in the trailer that feels like yes, I want to know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if this was
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, if there were different circumstances, like if I had
[SPEAKER_03]: If this was just like the first Spider-Man movie or we were back at the Andrew Garfield era, era, I would have error.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would have a very different opinion of this, but particularly I really trust Destined Daniel Cretten to get things right because Jean-Chi, a blast, Wonder Woman, Wonderland.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wonder, Wonder Bad, great.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's done a couple of other things that are really good as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: The writers have done really good things that it sounds like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Tom Holland is really locked in on making sure this is a good movie as well so every chance it could go wrong But this is the first time that like there's a ton of stuff in a Sony Spider-Man movie where it doesn't feel like Sony sat at the down And it's like we got a lot to universe and instead they made these choices to put these things in here
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the how do you feel about them?
[SPEAKER_02]: You've been following the Tom Hollen story where he's like I learned so much Working on the Odyssey, so I brought that to Brandon Dan like what are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_03]: Will you like learn to be saying like he realized you could plant out a movie in advance?
[SPEAKER_03]: Which He has to take away Yeah, and he walked in and he was like well, did we talk about this the other day?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we did where like
[SPEAKER_03]: He, obviously, they need to pre-vis the action scenes most of the time, but the way they've been doing the Spider-Man movies and MCU movies, they're like, yeah, we got these five action scenes build a movie around it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he said, no, no, that's not what we did on the Odyssey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do a different than this time, make sure by character as an emotional dream makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, great, that's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, you're 30 years old and have been in 25 movies already, so I don't know about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe you should have caught up with this a little bit sooner.
[SPEAKER_02]: The idea that he's made that many movies and none of them had a script that he was able to know about is insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: But maybe if for that to be the innovation that Christopher Nolan's like, now I got sort of a plan for this.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, what the fuck did you say?
[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to ridden down on paper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, can I get a look at that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Jake.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, but yeah, I think that's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that all points do that really thinking about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It could still go horribly wrong at B over stuff, but I always appreciate what they're like, we actually put some thought into this and we actually tried to make this something good because you can feel that even if you're like, ah, you made the wrong choices.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate it, Swag.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it just feels like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: In the choices that we see in this trailer, their weirdness actually is giving me encouragement because they're so different.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it feels like, well, why would you do that unless you had an idea?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, why would you have the Punisher?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no big push to have the Punisher, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no big push to have the hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: The big push is to have Zendaya, and that story forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the fact that they're going into this weirder territory,
[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: The only comic book brain concern is the other storyline and Moreland in all that shit.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if they're going to do moreland though this gets into something we're going to talk about in a second, but I do think that they're going to use the other in a similar way to Spider-Man losing his powers and Spider-Man too.
[SPEAKER_03]: that it's a running thread throughout and it's the emotional journey of spider man what he's dealing with affects his powers versus a big like he dies because of a big vampire Dracula dude and then turns into a pile of spiders.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't think they'll do that but will it be an easy kill thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: They did that in Madam Webb so they're not even going to touch that I don't think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, yeah, I guess you're right, but I don't know the the body transformation part though is that feels beyond the powers Yes, reflecting his emotions.
[SPEAKER_03]: They need to say yeah, unless they're like completely one hundred percent fake us out And this is something else entirely and a lot of people is speculative life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh black eyes is he actually turning into vettum Is this actually the symbiotsuit and I don't think they do that either by agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I don't know
[SPEAKER_03]: But the other part to speculate about Pete, you can put back on your headphones because this is nothing that we know about at all, but one of the things the Tom Holland said and I'm paraphrasing here is he talked about the mystery villain of a brand new day that we have, no idea what it is, and it's something unlike anything that we've ever seen before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Actually, maybe you won't take your headphones off again because we're probably talking about the trailer stuff I mean just to list the villains that we know are at it that are in the trailer We've got scorpion.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got boomerang.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got tarantula We've got Hulk's not a villain, but Hulk.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got puttisher Tube Stone is apparently in the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: We also have the hand We've got Department of Dabbage Control who's kind of a villain as well
[SPEAKER_03]: doing something with a mind and sending it through people and sending mind waves through New York.
[SPEAKER_03]: So what do you think is that the villain is, she the villain is he saying there's something else?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, hearing you say that really stressed me out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it once, when he said mind waves through New York, I'm like, oh no, I don't like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you think they're going to go tied to the larger MCU,
[SPEAKER_03]: is this point where doomsday man I really hope not like like we're talking about the DCU I like the fact that they're just their own movies and that they do build up anyway just by
[SPEAKER_03]: critical bass, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The idea that the big rumor is everybody thinks that Sadie Sake is Jean Grey in the movie and like why who cares?
[SPEAKER_03]: Who cares?
[SPEAKER_03]: Jean Grey is the villain of Spider-Man Brad New Day.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like, having Jean Grey be the villain is not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but like
[SPEAKER_03]: I could see that as a revealing her to if she's like what a friend would she what is her role I mean maybe maybe it's not a villain right like she's on the run for the Department of Dabbage Control and Punisher is trying to help her and Spider-Man is caught in the middle It's like I got to protect the city from this badass, but she's actually trying to protect herself in a very X-Men type way I guess but
[SPEAKER_03]: On that thousand says I think bottom web there's been a couple of I see people being like spider queen or whatever, but I feel like that gets it despite it.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're not touching any of that and I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think, I mean, I sort of think she has to be Jean Grey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would you not, at this point?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why would you not do it?
[SPEAKER_03]: We heard way to introduce the expert.
[SPEAKER_03]: So strange.
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be in a, it could be a much smaller thing, rather than a much larger thing, which is what it feels like, because it's a big character to us, but if you, they don't have to be big, she just can be introduced.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that can be their larger tether to the, to doomsday and beyond.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I mean, I think,
[SPEAKER_03]: If she's a mystery character, that's something that is very similar to the Michelle Jones thing that they hit you with with the beginning at the end of the first Tom Holland movie, where at the end of the movie, she's like, thanks and he's like, hey, what's your name?
[SPEAKER_03]: And she's like, Jean Grey.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's very well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Could be that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that rumor has been out there for so long that I feel like they can't, they should know that they can't play it that way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: because it'll be a bummer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, we'll see Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can put back on your headphones.
[SPEAKER_03]: We are done.
[SPEAKER_03]: With the movie chat, I think, what do we move on to our next section, which is trivia.
[SPEAKER_03]: And for that, we're going to turn it over to Pete Lippie.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That Towson, what if she's Mary Jane?
[SPEAKER_02]: Controversal choice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Though, you know what, let me give that a little trunk.
[SPEAKER_02]: What if we're getting into the split universe of the establishment of Fantastic Four?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's entirely possible, but also kind of insulting your
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well in less it's like because he doesn't sorry to interrupt your video with this idea But like he doesn't they don't know who Peter Parker is he's definitely connecting with her if someone is like Peter Parker I love you and it's Mary Jane, but from a different universe
[SPEAKER_02]: And but he ends up choosing Zindaya over that I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It is fucked up it's I'm like a better if they were going to go that route if she's made a parker and I think I saw them somewhere and it's like Toby McGuire and Kirsten Dudtskid who's traveled universes or something like that we do we can't do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know we can't do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like I don't want to do any of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I do want trivia and easy reader you're on it so Pete take it away.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pete's put on your headphones.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, this is Christ.
[SPEAKER_03]: You guys I didn't realize you took off your head.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if you're going to start talking spoilers and also we haven't seen the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know what you think about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, what is talking?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're just talking his friends.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, you've had your headphones on for 50% of this show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm going to take my headphones off for trivia because Yeah, I can't hear this.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Today's trivia is about the comic void rivals.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's small now to legend, James Tolkin, RIP.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for all the strict authority figures.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here we go, question number one.
[SPEAKER_02]: which a so far fantastic comic launched the energon universe is it a void rivals b you ain't got the answers c at those way um that's fun when you say if you were running on like a jeopardy style show and you're like the category is cats it's like this animal is furry with a tail is it what is cats what's right yeah hey
[SPEAKER_01]: A is correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, there we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's see if we can run the board.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who is the writer for this monthly comic that 31 issues in?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still having a blast with is it a curkeys aka robber Kirkman B.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey two times.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do hate your parents for that name see Tommy Thomas Danny Davis Tommy Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom's here
[SPEAKER_02]: James Tolkien, I like that actor.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been a lot of great stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: A, is it A?
[SPEAKER_01]: A is correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really nice.
[SPEAKER_01]: A question number three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who does the art for this great comic void rivals?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a Lorenzo de Felisi?
[SPEAKER_01]: B, did you quit smoking tobacco?
[SPEAKER_01]: See, Jeff O'Hacko.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I really like the rhyme, but if he quit smoking tobacco, would he still be O'Hacker or would that be?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, for maybe a couple months, you know, and then he would heal up, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: A, A is correct.
[SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations, easy reader.
[SPEAKER_03]: You are getting a gift card to be a dog comic, shouldn't you?
[SPEAKER_03]: And we will get that off to you, Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: What is the secret movie you were referencing?
[SPEAKER_01]: to the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: I almost said it and then I knew that's what you're doing and I didn't want to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're going to be on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, don't, don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going back to the comic book store tomorrow to pick up new comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you guys looking forward to?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's going to be out in stores, Pete.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm looking forward to avoid rivals number 31, the scut toy to issue, uh, Zelps, you've got to be excited.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I'm hyped about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All skyside, all night, early, yeah, you love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, absolute Wonder Woman number 21, this fucking comic, rocks.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art is sick of shit, Kelly, be right in the show of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you like comics, why aren't you reading this then?
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... really nice uh... really nice i'm looking forward to a few things the end of the ultimate universe is coming tomorrow
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's something I really enjoyed and then have lately enjoyed a little bit less so I'm curious how how is it going to end up yeah exactly how the ship comes in I'm mind management new and approved number one of the tomorrow talk to Matt Kent a while ago that comic we treat have already read is very good and I'm excited to reread it and for everyone else to read it for the very first time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am looking forward to hitting the springs at number two for Dark Wars comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a very fun old people meeting a giant Kaiju monster who's actually a baby story in the first issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a blast, and I thought the art was really good by Neil Ventrol as well as a really curious to see if it holds up.
[SPEAKER_03]: In issue two also looking forward to just to sleep dream girls a DC Pride event number four There's the final issue of this weekly pride event series that I thought was just great Oh, yeah, let's see it go as well, but man has Jetsia Axelrod and Nicole Mann's wrote the heck out of this So excited to see if they could stick the landing and that's coming out tomorrow
[SPEAKER_03]: The last one I'll throw out is Universal Monsters Blood of the Wolf Mad number one had Joshua Williamson on the back on the podcast recently.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was really hybrgliness out of his like a crazy dark story.
[SPEAKER_03]: So very curious to see what he does with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And all of those books and many more are going to be in our stack podcast that comes out Wednesday, 9 a.m.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the stack feed and the comic book club feed and folks, that is it for this week's show.
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[SPEAKER_03]: You did it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We all did it.
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[SPEAKER_03]: I still have to put up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sorry
[SPEAKER_03]: about the Punisher special for Pete's perspective.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will get that up very soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_03]: There were y'all an ass for taking so long.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know, well, they, they can wait.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That no-go-mind, we'll stay, time may take care of us And it's tomorrow, it's tomorrow, it's tomorrow, it's tomorrow It's tomorrow, it's tomorrow
[SPEAKER_00]: Grab big catches and they let the sea go to sleep And he's just nothing, they let that special destiny To grab your ring, hammer, don't be late for it, don't be late for it, don't be afraid
[UNKNOWN]: That's a good one.