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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, come to sports are dumb the podcast that's still on island time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Joey and I'm Sean and Sean we discussed this on our last episode that we recorded quite some time ago that I have been in Hawaii and just got back this morning as we record on a
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize.
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to be one of those dudes that say no, because you had to include the 20 and the 26.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want a pal and drum date and that's what we have.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I am still, I'd say quite exhausted from a very robust trip.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got home around 2 a.m.
[SPEAKER_03]: The flight landed early and it was still 12.45 a.m.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I had gotten too many souvenirs on the trips that I had to check it back and wait for that and then started walking towards the parking lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I saw that the shuttle was there, so I'm like, all right, the shuttle will probably be faster.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was not faster when to every other lock first.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then finally, I was like, okay, it's going to this lot and it turns the other way.
[SPEAKER_03]: And my lot was to the left, it turned right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I just got off at the next stop and walked over.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I saw the shuttle coming behind in my rear view as I was leaving the parking lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: So getting off, I don't know, five stops are really proved to be faster.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, let's say like did I'll go to ask at the bus come to your lap before you got there I know I would have been real embarrassed if so, but it's I also just I was just dead tired And then of course, I went down 35 this is just for our Austin listeners I 35 the worst highway in America.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd guess so I mean, it's really for anyone who drives I 35 because it goes throughout the center of the country
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe all the way up to Minnesota as the the top part of it and so it's 120 in the morning at this point.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm I'm on 71 you take the little loop south.
[SPEAKER_03]: No traffic on the ramp.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, oh, it's gonna be great for once.
[SPEAKER_03]: As soon as I get for the non-35 folks, it's an elevated ramp to go from one highway to this other one.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so you see, as you're making a turn, laugh, you just see endless red lights of brakes just back to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's unaconstruction.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that overpass from 71 to 35 south,
[SPEAKER_01]: This is before the construction on 35 was said, this is the stupidest, because it merges in the air.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, mid-air, you merge into another lane, and then it goes down and it merges again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it's very poorly designed.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so?
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of many officers go down there, like this is the stupidest ever.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which, would you rather have that, or would you rather be like the island of Maui, where in many cases, it's just one road.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, how many people have been alive?
[SPEAKER_03]: I looked at this up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was like 120,000 at the last census throughout the island.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, so it's just one link.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, and it's windy and it ran a hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there's, there's some spots where it's two lanes, but a lot of the road, like there is, for example, the Western part of Maui, if you go to the Western town, which has a lot of good surf spots and some nice hikes and just very nice, you know, nice views, it's where I went snorkeling, it was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: It saw some sea turtles, saw lots of schools fish, beautiful.
[SPEAKER_03]: I very clear waters, gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got a passing grade.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to go, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: loop of the island on one road.
[SPEAKER_03]: I opted not to hit this though.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, I would get nauseous on it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I looked at both that and a little plane and it was like the least amount of time you could spend was 90 minutes.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, what if I get nauseous 10 minutes in?
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, this ain't even just feeling ill. Oh god, that'll be awful.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd hate it so bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: But instead, no, I did the drive, but Sean, this highway for much of the ride up until what I did was I, you know, just a nice,
[SPEAKER_03]: There's, you know, like a couple curves and stuff, but like a general row, the speed limits like 45 or 50 for a lot of it, but people are probably going a little low faster, but like you're keeping up a good speed, there's not so many drivers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, that you're like bumper to bumper for the most fire and generally people are pretty good about holding over if you're like clearly in a rush or something or like, you know, the local behind you like generally you can pull over.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but the road eventually I didn't I turned around before I got to this park because I saw some pictures and read some stories I'm driving yes, run in a car great way to get around.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very difficult not because things are pretty spread out and There's a great thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll try to find a way to kind of an upload a video just on maybe I could throw it on YouTube or something and
[SPEAKER_03]: get it on or it might be on next episode if I want to wait to do it, but I went to a place that's called the Nakalayley Blowhole, which is just a natural like hole in a rock formation and the ocean waves crash into it and it like shoots a huge burst of water up into the air and we said I sent our group chat a text of this word
[SPEAKER_03]: I apparently this does not always happen if it's like lower tide, it's not as impressive, like shoot out.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I was there apparently when it was very rough in the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I got to see some real things, including a traveling rainbow, which I've never seen.
[SPEAKER_03]: It shoots this up and then it became missed and it was literally like seeing a rainbow going across.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like a star bouncing in a Mario game, but a rainbow.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was fantastic, but shortly after that, Sean, you can still go because I went back with some friends to some other spots.
[SPEAKER_03]: We went a little further.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can go to the Ohio Trail, which is a beautiful little trail you see over cliffs and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can see down the road a little bit too, and you're like, hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know about that road and then you can go like two miles further to these tide pools that also are very dangerous and there's multiple warnings I referencing people who have died there because you're sitting in these tide pools you think everything's all right and then
[SPEAKER_03]: As you might know, the ocean pretty unforgiving sometimes and a rogue wave can come up and and sweet people away and that's happened.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so Since we were five minutes away from it, I was like, they looked cool from afar.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, I would be down to go and look from above.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I don't want to go in these pools last something like that happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'd like to survive this vacation and so it's still let you get in like if I hate here's everybody who died come on in I mean kind of yeah I think there's there's it's one of the things that I think is a little you know some of the locals are kind of like this is not even a spot like it's it's
[SPEAKER_03]: I was kind of reading into how it became designated and there's an organization that's like, maybe not the most respected, that were liked, but that pushes some different tourism options.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was reading that they quite literally put this place on Google Maps, like they made it into a spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: that people go to, but a lot of locals, I think, are kind of like, there's better spots you can go to that maybe aren't as dangerous, but if you continue down this roadshon, this is where I turned around, was after these pools, because even in that little stretch from the blowhole to this, which is maybe like four miles, the road gets narrower, but it's still two lanes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you still got space, but shortly after this, this becomes the craziest highway,
[SPEAKER_03]: on one side, you have a cliff like a mountain on your side.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Other side, a drop off.
[SPEAKER_03]: No guardrail, and it's one lane.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if there's anyone coming the other direction, because it's still two ways, you just have to reverse until you find a spot that you can kind of sidel up.
[SPEAKER_03]: against.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was reading stories of people who were, you go super slow.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think even the locals, like I was reading some stories of locals who don't take this road, they're like I've lived in my for 20 years and I don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't go on this road because it's just it seems like a nightmare and it's like it's not even if it was just like a straight road You could maybe see all right, it's not but it's like windy and curves and I'm reading tales of people being like I open the passenger side door and if I had stepped out I wouldn't be touching the grounds like
[SPEAKER_03]: because it's like hanging over the edge of the- Edmonton?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's very terrifying.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, that's not- That's my recommendation is don't take that road.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, even if you're very confident in your driving, I feel like, especially in like a rental car, you don't know that the gurs of the car that you see a car.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were in, yeah, a car and also a driver.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very upsetting.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, why was awesome?
[SPEAKER_03]: I was a great time.
[SPEAKER_03]: We should do a sports or dumb tour there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the hotel I stayed at gave me a coupon code to come back and stay again.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, why not?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's already already there very friendly and Sean, you might appreciate this since we're, you know, we're kind of old heads now.
[SPEAKER_03]: the island pretty much shuts down around nine or 10 p.m. A lot of places are closed by then, and there's not a lot of clubbing or DJs.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not like when we were out in Frisco till the wee early morning hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to Hawaii when I was 22 years old, just graduated college.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we sat on Maui, not Honolulu.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember, this is my super party phase.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm out to two and up early.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, everything with clothes, I'm like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Where is everything?
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'll just go home and they're like not, the party out is like kind of looser.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, how you get up with that?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's far, I'm like, all right, well never mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go back to my hotel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we could go to Honolulu, Sean.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll give, we'll get you back into your party.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, thanks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shout down our lead to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I'm old now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's, now is where I want to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_03]: There were, I, I wound, I usually don't go to a hotel bar or pool bar.
[SPEAKER_03]: but wound up there one time, I was just kind of wanting to take a break in between, I, you know, some adventures go to the pool a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I saw they had a World Cup game on, so I went over and kind of peeked at the score and it was, I don't even remember what game it was, Netherlands, Japan did they play, did they play each other?
[SPEAKER_03]: something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it was near the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like 75 minutes in or so.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's like, I'll just, you know, sit up here for the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I overheard the group next to me talking about someone.
[SPEAKER_03]: named Joey and so I had to interject and I said I hope this is a good Joey and he's not and they're kangaroo no it was a human person and they said yes he's a good he's a good Joey and that's so we started shooting the ball fun at one of them's a realtor who has worked with Hanson's dad the band Hanson no no the band Hanson who collectively have like 18 children they they're dad I guess owns
[SPEAKER_03]: multiple rental properties, I think, on Hawaiian islands.
[SPEAKER_03]: Based on their sons.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and she said for all my hands and fans out there, she said that all of the sons are very nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like the members of handsome, but she said the dad's a little, like, like, particular, not, not like rude or anything, but he's got, he's got some quirks, I guess, when he's looking for his house himself.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Bob Island.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, it's not, but did you know they have a beer that's called, um, hops?
[SPEAKER_01]: They're, well, they're milking that, not mine, which is a joke, but it's barely there's it's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Sean, I don't think you'd enjoy actually, you know what, I do think you'd enjoy a couple of the songs on the Hanson CD.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the ones sung by Isaac, who has a more masculine sound it was, who's the older brother.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that song, it's got a minute without you, it's Bangor.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll throw a link to it and the show notes.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's more, it's more like a kind of traditional rock song sound.
[SPEAKER_03]: So was it on a radio?
[SPEAKER_01]: They only have one song.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, Sean, that's where you are also wrong as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have multiple.
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe top 10 hits, and you know what we're going to do a little discography shot just real quick, it is sports I just need to see, I just need to see the signals obviously but number one on eight different charts according to Wikipedia and then Sean right after that where's the love charted of not in America, okay, it's number two and Australian candidate, but after that this is the one I was thinking of I will come to you Sean.
[SPEAKER_03]: a ballot.
[SPEAKER_03]: When the light is when the night is dark and stormy and the light is something.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a great song, but that was a top 10 hit in the US as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number nine, then they also had a song called this time around number 20.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would come to you this time around.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, different songs.
[SPEAKER_03]: One is, I will come to you, what is the STEM RAD?
[SPEAKER_03]: You might have also heard, where's the love?
[SPEAKER_03]: I've heard that it carry OK before, which I'm always surprised by.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was the one that didn't chart.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I feel like it was in a movie or something, too.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then they also have a song called Weird, which is the chorus.
[SPEAKER_03]: Isn't it strange how we all get a little bit weird sometimes?
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm very watching that music video, which is also pretty good.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like they're swimming on a subway train, it's real good, and there was a comment where someone was like, if John Lennon wrote this, it would be the most popular song in the world, but because a budget teenage boys wrote it, people don't take it serious, that's like saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, deep lyrics, that's got some got some good bangers.
[SPEAKER_03]: So middle of nowhere is the whole album.
[SPEAKER_03]: would recommend next time you need some, some bumps in your life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Although I do think the first song on that city is one of the worst songs, so it doesn't start off very well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then it's Amsterdam.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: The next like four songs are singles, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you've got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got time and then you're still living off of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need a song.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna make a song called One of them because the like my tag my the summer shun says it's gonna be all about the summer And we're gonna repeat it a bunch of times people and sing karaoke get tired of it But I'll make all the residual
[SPEAKER_01]: Get an island in Hawaii, and it would stay up until 11pm, which would be much later than all the other facilities.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did learn that Larry Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle owns one of the Hawaiian Islands.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, purchased it for $300 million.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was quite a while back, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what it was.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard it on a guide somewhere.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm gonna be saying that's it's a quick but still like I don't feel like it would be more for it But it's a largely like uninhabited island aside from like Larry Ellison and his friends and then I think a few A few natives might live there, but it's like less than 500 people Maybe less than 200 but anyway Sean speaking of party.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: party animal party phase.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did a couple of things in Hawaii that I've never done before.
[SPEAKER_03]: And a few things that I have done, but it's been quite a while since I've done them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously snorkeling one of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I faced my fears in multiple ways.
[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, a boat on the ocean.
[SPEAKER_03]: Usually is a disaster for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're feeling.
[SPEAKER_03]: In terms of C6, just getting sick of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: You had a little patch on them?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I did the bio bands as well as some drama mean.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, the sea life bands, you might also know them as, but they're literally gray bands with a little button looking thing in the middle.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like very similar to a patch.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had that with drama mean and that with ginger.
[SPEAKER_03]: Keep knocking on wood shan.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's good that you don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hate it, but I felt great in the water, only in hailed salt water a couple of times throughout the trip.
[SPEAKER_03]: I tried not to, struggled, struggled and tried to spit it out immediately.
[SPEAKER_03]: But snorkeling was a while, and seeing a sea turtle, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing is better.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's so cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're just it's a turtle see you like I was Yeah, it's turtle like I kind of like glance like our ad keep going and yeah You get and it's like a legal to touch them because our gross human hands have oils that would Kill them which are tour guide bluntly stated despite they're being lots of children which I kind of appreciated that he
[SPEAKER_03]: was very open about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, if you touch this, like, if you touch a turtle, like, and, you know, admire them from a distance, but if you touch them, a turtle will probably be dead within a year, and I said, damn, harsh.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we did not touch them, but we got some great swim buys and close-ups, and just just a brief tangent shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's
[SPEAKER_03]: Most of this this group like there was families like a few families it seemed to know each other and then maybe like a few couples I was the only solo travel loved to see it Shaka and The there was one part where like me and one of the couples were looking at the same See turtle just being cool and we we'd all like pop up at the same time.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're like that so cool
[SPEAKER_03]: But on another part of the trip, I hear a woman who's probably around our age, maybe a little younger.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's impressed at the sea turtle being about the same height, like this was almost out of the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we got to see it take a little breath out of the water and then was like swimming like right at the surface.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she comments to her, either her mom or like mother-in-law, but an older woman, it says,
[SPEAKER_03]: something like oh he's so high up like very it's so cool like he's so high up and the mom is just like yeah that happens and I'm like are you not impressed by everything you're seeing come on man like so many times that you seem like yeah it's just old hat to I was so annoyed it's like this is enjoy I would see this every day and still be in awe be in awe
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Spoiled.
[SPEAKER_03]: So snorkeling was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also, I had, I made friends on another tour in Scotland and they live in Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they're like, we'll take you out to some, you know, some good snorkel spots.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of those spots, you had to, I had been there earlier, but not on the water side.
[SPEAKER_03]: There was like another side where they have some cool rock formations and some other stuff going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I had been to that side, but not the other side.
[SPEAKER_03]: and to get into this water you had to jump in from the rocks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate it, Sean.
[SPEAKER_03]: I laughed even though, oddly I did not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Great question, Sean, and boy was this humbling experience about my lack of upper body strength.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I was, well, a couple of different things.
[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a tall rock you could jump off.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's probably, I would guess like 30 to 40 feet in the air.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I said, Mr. Lower, jump, we can do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because those are my Dominican Republic days, 20 years ago, when we jumped from that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there was one that was maybe 15 feet up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you still plunge pretty deep into the water from that high.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, pencil.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, went down was it was not fully prepared for how much I'd think so I was like cool float back up and there were a bunch of Bros who I'd guess I say Bros because they said bro every third word.
[SPEAKER_03]: I who so they were probably
[SPEAKER_03]: late teens early 20s I would guess and they're telling us about all these sea turtles and fish down one way so we're like let's go over there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Somehow my snorkel mask that I had brought was like the filter got flipped off so every time I'd inhale I'm inhaling water.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm like, that can't be right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, oh, that's not how it's going to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so eventually I figured out what was wrong and fixed it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I, that was more at the next beach.
[SPEAKER_03]: So for for this time, I just had the mask on and not the snorkel.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I just go under and hold my breath for like eight seconds and pop up.
[SPEAKER_03]: and be like, this can't be the way to see it, but I did see multiple turtles again and it was glorious.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was great time.
[SPEAKER_03]: But getting out of the water, which I tried to do at one point and then later when I went back in, I realized there was a beach you could get onto where there were some rocks, but it was like...
[SPEAKER_03]: You were standing on them as you left the water like you didn't have to push yourself out or anything and then you could like climb up and take a take a long way around.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the way you get out you put yourself up, but you have to wait for a wave that's powerful enough to like
[SPEAKER_03]: boost you up so that you can reach one of the rocks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's like a real timing sort of game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just lay him into the rocks and, oh, yeah, this is that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that was part of what happened to me as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm being helped up by my friend, who's
[SPEAKER_03]: a foot shorter than me, and I probably have a hundred pounds on her.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's still strong that she got to help me up, but I was like goodness.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was rough, and then I felt much better because I was standing up there, and the bros were all coming up, and one of them was struggling, and so I was able to help him up, and I was like, I'm not alone.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a star.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not alone.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: You just pay it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have for it, and then they order 55 burgers, 55.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: But these guys were jumping from high off, and I at one point was standing where I could see them jump, but not see them land.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just heard the landing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one of them did what they called a death dive, where it's like essentially like a belly flop, but like you're like fully starfished out, and then at the last second, I guess you like curl.
[SPEAKER_03]: so you land kind of on your legs.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It still seems like it'll be very painful.
[SPEAKER_03]: But he, it did not sound like he curled up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, someone told me he did, but it just sounded like he just felt right in there and I said, good Lord.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are these are, are these are, you know, Pacific Island and brothers and sisters, or are these?
[SPEAKER_03]: These were all white guys with blonde hair.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think you're one of them might have been Pacific Island or just a way more tan.
[SPEAKER_03]: It could be He seemed a little he did not have blonde hair.
[SPEAKER_03]: So he's the one he was also one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe not jumping so that could have been a wise There's one other guy who was not jumping and his friend was trying to encourage him.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was actually very cute How did you understand to jump on to a rock
[SPEAKER_01]: No, oh, so the jumping part is fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: The getting out, we couldn't get out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I see, I see, I see, I see this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we had to swim around.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, because there's a bunch of kids that it's like a rope, they would just use their upper body strength and feet, not slip against the rock.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think when up, we try this, can get one step and like, well, this is how we do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, everyone else does it so easily.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you're like, yeah, it's simple.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, no, no, this is a ruffling.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a ruffling.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: One other activity, Sean, I'd actually two other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Neither one is sports related, but kind of I went to a goat farm, which was delightful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Got to sample all kinds of like goat ice cream and cheese and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I held a baby goat, have done that before.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was very cute.
[SPEAKER_03]: Fed goats.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've also done that before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also wonderful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Both the world's wild experiences.
[SPEAKER_03]: I still marvel at them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Goes me hungry.
[SPEAKER_03]: Goes me very hungry and it's funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes they'll buddy each other out of the way.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like again.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're feeding them like tortilla strips and they they were yeah one of them would like ram another one out and say excuse me that's mine and they're little like tongues come out and grab it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: But also a new experience got to milk a goat.
[SPEAKER_01]: with milk, right, that, that fictitious e-milk ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, actual milk, actual milk.
[SPEAKER_03]: They put two goats up who were grazing on grain and they said, come on and squeeze their utter and get some milk out.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of like, I'm squeezing a water balloon.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you've done that,
[SPEAKER_01]: where you kind of, but then it refills, so you do it some more.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you kind of like firmly grab like one teat and like, it's pulled down with the other.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I did like when the woman was demonstrating, she was saying, you know, make sure it's down into the bucket.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she scored it.
[SPEAKER_02]: She scored it, someone in the, in the crowd.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, watch, like, is it, I guess the,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not pointing straight down when she was doing it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was very delightful.
[SPEAKER_03]: So great, would highly recommend that go to ice cream was real, real, go milk ice cream.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't like ice cream made from goats.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was from their milk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it was a flavor.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, made from their milk.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was very tasty.
[SPEAKER_03]: They also made a caramel that's like part from their milk too, and so that was, ooh, ooh, we shot.
[SPEAKER_03]: But,
[SPEAKER_03]: What I was very impressed by, and perhaps this is what the greatest pro athletes do.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was talking about the importance of getting good sleep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sean, I slept for 12 hours.
[SPEAKER_01]: The, like, easily, like, you didn't have, like, sleep paralysis because it was time to get out of the room.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, the day after snorkeling.
[SPEAKER_03]: or like the night of snorkeling.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that was like a four hour excursion, you know, you're on the boat for some of it, but you're out in the water a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you're, you know, you're floating when you're snorkeling, but you swim to different areas and you're kind of, you know, like flatten your feet to stay a float when you're going around.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it's like, it's a pretty good full body workout.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I afterwards was in sort of a smaller town area and kind of exploring around
[SPEAKER_03]: also out in the sun for some of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So as I'm driving back to my hotel, it's like my ETA is around 530 and I'm like I'm I'm going to need to take a nap like I'm I'm so tired and and so I no no I made it to the hotel but I was like I need to take an hour as soon as I get it and and I one of the groups of friends I made at the the hotel bar had told me they were going out for
[SPEAKER_03]: And so they said, you know, well, like, text you when we're on the way, and I'm like perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it was like shortly before six o'clock, I said a timer or set an alarm for 40 minutes, put on one of the world cup games.
[SPEAKER_03]: Take a nap.
[SPEAKER_01]: You think we make it?
[SPEAKER_03]: I wake up at the alarm.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not as snooze it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just turn it off apparently.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wake up again, it's 12, 20 AM.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I see multiple texts from like 730.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, yeah, we're going to be here for maybe an hour or two.
[SPEAKER_02]: So feel free to come back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do
[SPEAKER_01]: Did some yoga on the beach?
[SPEAKER_03]: No yoga on the beach, that's just some walking on the beach.
[SPEAKER_03]: No sex on the beach, either.
[SPEAKER_03]: It'd be very painful on the sand.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying, like, that's got to get into some places that aren't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking of not going to exit soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just like, literally just walking on the beach.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got so much sand on me.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like I went to the water to the point of like my shin, like that was the highest that got anything and I still somehow had sand on my upper body so I don't know did not lay down I didn't see a very elaborate sandcastle someone built though and I really appreciate it that they took the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for that kicking it over.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, we also enjoyed what are the beaches in which we do a little kid with a whole group of them had built this like big fort, you know, as you did like a sand castle fort and like the waves would come and
[SPEAKER_03]: You'd be so excited if it didn't knock your fort down, but off it, it did immediately.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so this, like a bunch of kids were building it, but they all kind of ran to go into the water.
[SPEAKER_03]: And there was one just like standing back and building it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the water comes up and hits the fort, but doesn't knock it over.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this kid is so excited about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's giving thumbs up to everyone.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like the fort holds like the wall holds.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was so, so tickled by it, and then a larger wave came and knocked some of the...
[SPEAKER_02]: I used to scream like, whoa, whoa, whoa!
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like trying to play- That's a, it's a trying to play- Again, we're walls on, and all of his friends have abandoned him because they're having too much fun catching waves with like boogie boards and stuff and stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: was having a great time after so I liked I like to give up on the for it and it mostly did continue staying intact for the whole time we were there with any huge wave okay it it was fully gone and you didn't even notice by that point because it was it was having a ball in the water and that's a good lesson.
[SPEAKER_03]: to end on and that's a very non-sports podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been startling and hiking with sported sported.
[SPEAKER_03]: We watched the World Cup.
[SPEAKER_03]: We talked about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Congrats to the nicks and the kids can do the nicks.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, that can be a sport thing that I saw in Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_03]: The same day as that World Cup, there was a guy watching the Stanley Cup as the game
[SPEAKER_03]: freaking out like he was so nervous the whole time he but that's what I asked I said are you from Carolina because he cheered when they scored the first call if you remember that game they scored a goal early and then
[SPEAKER_03]: Two was too late and then I think they had a like an empty netter right at the end But yeah, but yeah, but yeah, yeah, congratulations to the Carolina don't call us Miami hurricanes and The next but this guy he was a San Jose shark's fan so he just hated Vegas so much that he was hate watching
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some of that series I didn't watch because Vegas was winning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I don't want to watch Vegas when I hate Vegas And these hockey havens meant Carolina Vegas Florida
[SPEAKER_03]: notorious cold weather places.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess it's all, they're all made of Canadian and international players, but like if you can't at a you'll never get a Santa Cup in your country again.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like they're outstores all your players and now it's never coming home.
[SPEAKER_03]: Devastus.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like the uh
[SPEAKER_01]: U.S. is going to win the world cup.
[SPEAKER_01]: So English, not going to win.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's their song.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: USA, all the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: My patriotism is up all the way until we lose and then it's going to be down.
[SPEAKER_03]: 100%.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never felt so patriotic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, you know what is done watching Messy, he's so good, he's so good, if you're a casual soccer fan who doesn't understand how good a soccer player is, you see Messy back during the game, he just walks, he's walking, he just walks and he walks and walks and walks and walks and walks and then the game's over and he has three goals, like what?
[SPEAKER_01]: How did it?
[SPEAKER_01]: He just confirms energy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess he has a lot of trust in his own teams.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can just walk and then when it's time to turn it on because he turns 39 the day after the podcast airs like he just when he turns it on for 30 seconds unstoppable.
[SPEAKER_03]: They win.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's kind of a real nice to have that gear consistently for what 25 years since he's
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's been in like a amateur league since probably just beat and he's little Just so good, but also in pop-a good.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's a bigger dude early.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a big dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not getting a more Christian.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember that guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it my feet and he's 41 and he took about two goals away from his team by just being bad and in the way it's like All dog it might be time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Important is one of the favorites of win better with Adam, but you know, man's got to ego each other because like Messy had a hat trick and Bob Bay had to How long had to and so like
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, it's got to get in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to get his two.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had a negative two.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did have his own role in just like, but like, he's right next to the opponent's goal.
[SPEAKER_03]: He turns around and boots it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, he was well, maybe they would have a better scoring chance if he did not try the scoring, he kicked it the other way to somebody else.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I've ever said this on this podcast, but back when I lived in L.A. and worked at this tiny little digital marketing agency,
[SPEAKER_01]: Colton intended.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, that was a different, that was a different place.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was all great.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this place, I initially got hired because the MBA lockout was happening, and they were doing a whole thing with Google, because that was one Google Plus had come out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it actually I think would have been very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a bunch of MBA player and like Stars of the time like it was LeBron and Duane Wade and Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think were the top four and they were hosting camps in their cities and they would scrimmage with other MBA players.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was making the draft class, 2003, featuring Chris Paul.
[SPEAKER_03]: But they were going to host because the season it looks like was not going to happen at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it was
[SPEAKER_03]: Or at least for, you know, quite some time.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they were going to host all these events in their home cities and get other MBA players to show up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just seem like a very nice community event type of thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Alas, the day we announced it happening, the MBA, I was like, hey, the lockouts over.
[SPEAKER_03]: Season start.
[SPEAKER_03]: Lockout did it.
[SPEAKER_03]: So all of this can't seem so.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we had a few other kind of road clients throughout.
[SPEAKER_03]: But for some reason, we,
[SPEAKER_03]: we're doing the Google Plus page for Cristiano Ronaldo still, which was largely just repurposing whatever he posted on Twitter, but every once in a while we do like a specialty partnership.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he, I remember he also had an app come out where it was, I think you just tried to score goals and maybe the retargets that popped up in the goal and you got bonus points is pretty rudimentary, but
[SPEAKER_03]: I remember one of my colleagues had to test the game.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm just just hearing him like a mother and I'm about to skip it sometimes because of these bugs that are popping up and he has to log those and report back and it's just, it really made me a question ever wanting to be a video game to, I don't think I ever did want to be a video game tester, but that really solidified it of like, oh, this actually is not a super fun career
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I wanted to do that when I was a teenager as well of a ring, I would read game pro magazine and they would talk about it and they were like, yeah, this isn't great.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even get to play all the games.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just play in the game that you're getting paid to play and you have to try to break it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, well, I don't want to be there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want my games to survive.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to break them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw it fun bit, so Donkey Kong 64 is now available on the Switch 2, no other Switch online so you can play it and apparently in the demo screen, I don't know if you remember the demo screen for Donkey Kong 64, but it had the rap or before the rap, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's like, it's after, it's waiting for you to press something and it's like some games.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, apparently, in one of it, I document a mountain and then he jumped from vine to vine, and this is in the N64 version, but then in ports, whether you're playing on a PC or a Wii U version came out, you could tell if it was a good emulator and if he actually jumped from vine to vine, it didn't just fall off the mountain.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, apparently, it was a bad port if he just fell off with
[SPEAKER_01]: all the other ports emulators after the N64, but in this, in the switch online version, he actually makes it until the vines again in swing, so it's a good port so you should play it.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I should play it, because I remember I rented Donkey Kong 64, and this is back in days where I would get two games at once.
[SPEAKER_01]: I blocked the switch, and it just picked the one that I like more, and then so it was not Donkey Kong.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I really owned that trial, I barely played it.
[SPEAKER_01]: what was the other one you rented pilot wings sixty four conchers bad for it uh... i wish i knew what was happening so don't come out later in the life cycle and since it's for it had to expansion pack i don't know i don't know what i read it probably some san francisco rush twenty four men rush two i will play with you right now it's it's not known is so fun
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember doing, which is driving off my kills and flying through the air and crashing and then like that was fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you're 7,000 flips and then you get one point because you know, they've registered.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like one flip.
[SPEAKER_03]: Ah, simpler times.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's say let us know when you're you're doing some DK 64 and we'll get.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll get it in the show now.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have the link to Sean.
[SPEAKER_01]: No him well.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to the final boss, the final King K rule boss when you do not to spoil the game, but all five of your coms have to fight him and it's a different battle for each one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's like a boxing match and you get maybe eight to 10 rounds, something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's it's real difficult.
[SPEAKER_03]: I found it very challenging because you only get, you know, a certain amount
[SPEAKER_03]: So like for I don't even remember what Donkey Kong did he Kong's I know you have to like punch or like shoot on your peanut gun at like the bells at the top to like have them fall on him or something you shouldn't something down and but I don't know if it carries over from round around so it's like you have to try and get
[SPEAKER_03]: everything done in a certain, in like a three minute round or something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe it does carry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's been a while since I played it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But still great game.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how far I'll get into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I want to play some most.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, for the second time in my life, and it will be pilot weeks.
[SPEAKER_01]: has not.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you have a favorite niche line in that game?
[SPEAKER_03]: Mine might be we're heading to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is the worst level.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just we're not.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like Bill, when you go in.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an answer.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then if you go to solar, you see him again.
[SPEAKER_01]: He shows up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's make a comment.
[SPEAKER_03]: See so many of me's in and just leaves a cat comes in on Zones.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I could kiss you for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, why do you gotta be the generic female character that's threatening to kiss all the boys?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's just Falca, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Doesn't she only have eyes?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, if you say Bruce, he has an enemy on him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a favorite, and it's a good kiss you for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: They changed some lines in the new one because you can play the demo and I played the demo in on media, the asteroid level.
[SPEAKER_01]: They, you know, when Fox Williams said he goes, sorry to JIT, but I'm in a hurry and it blows up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this time it says, sorry to JIT, but we've got places to be that boot very low in my apartment.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to hurry as it's such a cold-blooded, like, as the guy's in, I hate to die.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, again, I'm going to hurt the floor.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't wait or I have to see you explode.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, I can't wait for you to play that as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll watch and admire from afar and also give I upset reactions when they change dialogue.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's stupid level because like all the back guys are monkeys, and so when the guys like oh, I admit defeat and then Falco in the original game goes Are you gonna listen to that monkey like I understand why they changed it and Falco just says I don't listen to the trick or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the new line is but like I see why they took it out Cuz the way he says monkey is very
[SPEAKER_03]: it's a worse thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I started Star Wolf instead of what the heck goes.
[SPEAKER_03]: What the fudge?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, I came with for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure the Star Wolf lines are going to be good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pig, can't let you do that, Star Wolf.
[SPEAKER_03]: They better keep down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have Pigma be even more aggressive about how you're dead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dad, it's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's he died or something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's like night time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know it's like everyone else is just like, we're the best, like you're not gonna win.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, hey, you're dad.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's good.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm the reason why.
[SPEAKER_03]: What a time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, as always, Sean, we've really kept his sports.
[SPEAKER_03]: I blame myself, I'm still on island time, as we said at the beginning, and nothing sounds better than seeing subsea turtles and sleeping.
[SPEAKER_03]: Which I won't do at least one of those two tonight, which I think will be great, and in the meantime, I hope you enjoy all of your demos and the actual games when they come up, because try and something before you buy it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not dumb!
[SPEAKER_03]: Sports, Markum.