WEBVTT 00:00.031 --> 00:25.301 [SPEAKER_00]: what is up everyone welcome back to another edition of the she and show me Sean she in here and shut up a dot com and I am back with a preview for the upcoming PFL event which goes down on June the 27th to Saturday over in the lovely city of San Diego California USA and it's it's an local card from PFL it's a starter card we've I suppose been being getting used to over the last 00:26.301 --> 00:37.568 [SPEAKER_00]: The last few years, but especially the last few months with the tournament being on one of their biggest stars in the man event against, you know, someone unknown fighter that 00:38.903 --> 01:06.429 [SPEAKER_00]: I think PFL of how he hopes for, we have farmer champions, we have a lot of very good expelator fighters, some X UFC fighters as well, and yeah, it's, it's have the longest card in the world leader, I believe it's nine fights here on, on Shardognam, that I'm sure that could be up there, our Lord, you never know, sometimes would have a bad card, but yeah, this is, again, I'll repeat towards a card, we can get used to them, I suppose we have to 01:09.270 --> 01:10.812 [SPEAKER_00]: to the new P.F. 01:10.852 --> 01:15.536 [SPEAKER_00]: Illinois spoke to John Marn, a while back in, uh, when I say a while back, like, that was a last week. 01:15.556 --> 01:16.157 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was last week. 01:16.177 --> 01:18.319 [SPEAKER_00]: If you haven't heard that interview, please go and listen to it. 01:18.339 --> 01:22.183 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you see, and there was, you know, a lot of people didn't like the tournament. 01:22.203 --> 01:23.144 [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people did like it. 01:23.544 --> 01:25.366 [SPEAKER_00]: And they're going ahead and they're seeing how this is work. 01:25.386 --> 01:27.608 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he didn't rule out doing a tournament again. 01:27.628 --> 01:29.350 [SPEAKER_00]: So that's, that's good. 01:29.590 --> 01:31.171 [SPEAKER_00]: Everyone knows I'm, I'm a fan of tournament. 01:31.211 --> 01:31.972 [SPEAKER_00]: I said that to him as well. 01:31.992 --> 01:32.112 [SPEAKER_00]: But, 01:32.913 --> 01:34.876 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I listened to him. 01:35.616 --> 01:51.476 [SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't sound like a guy who'd be s-ya type of thing, and there's a lot of guys who have been in MMA organizations never know an answer to who, I don't know, I'd look at them and go, they're trying to be s-me, like I asked John Martin 01:52.417 --> 02:15.130 [SPEAKER_00]: You know how long did it take you to learn everything about the PFL and he got why I'm still learning that's a great answer I really like that answer because if he said there are a lot of things that took me three months to buy was on top It's impossible to learn everything about numericalization and we all the fighters you have in that chart of time So I like when he said that and yeah, he seems like a good guy and yeah, go and forward them. 02:15.390 --> 02:15.470 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm 02:16.891 --> 02:20.995 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm hopeful, hopefully we'll get a great TV deal, no one, great cards like this can be featured. 02:21.015 --> 02:35.026 [SPEAKER_00]: So let's get into this card often a bit of tangent there, but to many of it, as I mentioned earlier, AJMiki, against Santa Matt, ispulloy of, again, somewhat of a non-non-fighter who's only fought once in the PFL, and I'll talk about that for a second. 02:35.987 --> 02:39.548 [SPEAKER_00]: against probably one of the most known fighters in the PFL. 02:39.568 --> 02:51.813 [SPEAKER_00]: He's only had about four fights in PFL himself, but he's had many many fights in Belotor, you know, to suppose the one sister organization of PFL and and everyone knows AJ McKee at this stage. 02:53.254 --> 03:02.117 [SPEAKER_00]: Like to me if I was just to describe AJ McKee as we break down the fight, I think he reminds me a little bit of Anthony Perez, where he can kind of 03:05.345 --> 03:07.927 [SPEAKER_00]: But he can do a little bit of everything. 03:08.087 --> 03:19.477 [SPEAKER_00]: And maybe people include myself at some stages, kind of underestimate him because like, it feels like Aegean McKee was going to be a great fighter. 03:20.518 --> 03:28.943 [SPEAKER_00]: and like, even though he has won championships and he has only lost twice in 26, 26, he's record is 24 and 2. 03:29.764 --> 03:35.808 [SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like he hasn't, like, gone to that superstar level for better or RPFL. 03:36.594 --> 04:03.684 [SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's maybe in our protruding losses with like he's lost the Patricia after he had just beaten Patricia I was kind of like that was the fight to go to the next level and it didn't happen and he comes into the PFL beats clear color He's okay, here we go and then lose this the pile of use You know bad those losses were really really badly tiny and I suppose like It's easy for me to say that there's a reason only two losses, but I Need to put that to the side for a second because he's a very very good fighter 04:04.877 --> 04:25.107 [SPEAKER_00]: really good fighter, I think a special submission fighter, I think he's good on the field while not being like the biggest knockout artist in the world or anything and I think if he can find a way of making the way he strikes more effective in terms of winning fights. 04:26.327 --> 04:47.026 [SPEAKER_00]: I think he's he's really golden and now again 24 and and two so it's not like he's losing voice because of that but go with me for a second for talking about the top top level and this was the next question you asked yourself is Salamat is below ever guy who will show if he's at the top level and I suppose the answer to that is we don't really know 04:48.547 --> 05:16.272 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, at 10 and all, with 10 finishes, you'd suggest that's a good start, um, and by watching him, um, now, to falling through, there isn't that much tape on him, even though he's at 10 fights, only one of them has gone to the second round, and, you know, I basically, I watched the whole of his ass fights with the fight, which was almost exactly five minutes trees I can chart, and basically, everything else you see is, is the finishes, so the reason really much to see after that, he does look like a top top level fighter, you know, I was 05:17.772 --> 05:18.993 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of an intro there, I said it. 05:19.533 --> 05:19.854 [SPEAKER_00]: P.F. 05:19.894 --> 05:24.257 [SPEAKER_00]: now a lot of important kind of really good guys are in against kind of unknown guys at a time. 05:24.277 --> 05:26.238 [SPEAKER_00]: Like you could say, edge at this fight for edge of your makey. 05:27.859 --> 05:29.579 [SPEAKER_00]: You could say, Ajamehiver's poll use. 05:29.619 --> 05:33.180 [SPEAKER_00]: Our poll use wasn't unknown to a lot of people, including myself, obviously. 05:33.540 --> 05:36.161 [SPEAKER_00]: But even Mitch McKee, charge a pair this in against him. 05:37.801 --> 05:42.442 [SPEAKER_00]: They're doing this enough, and I think they're doing it with guys they know are very, very good. 05:43.563 --> 05:46.003 [SPEAKER_00]: And to me, Salamaz is one of those guys. 05:46.043 --> 05:47.024 [SPEAKER_00]: It's very, very good. 05:47.964 --> 05:52.465 [SPEAKER_00]: Watching some of these early pieces of work, and I think even in, was it, 05:53.065 --> 05:54.466 [SPEAKER_00]: I think it was an amateur fight. 05:54.486 --> 05:55.666 [SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I might have been watching over. 05:55.826 --> 05:56.987 [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, it was an IMA fight. 05:57.687 --> 06:08.732 [SPEAKER_00]: Like he went to a lot of the decisions as an amateur and He's kind of like a bit plating and a bit slow and like he doesn't look like the most athletic guy in the world But God, I'm like he has a pro. 06:09.172 --> 06:12.794 [SPEAKER_00]: He's been the exact opposite like he's put on a hole to that. 06:12.814 --> 06:16.436 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe I put on a hole to the muscle But like Extintuated a hole to the muscle. 06:16.456 --> 06:17.116 [SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he was a guy. 06:17.236 --> 06:18.357 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure it has to go back and look back 06:19.177 --> 06:27.879 [SPEAKER_00]: that maybe wasn't caught in the way as an amateur and decided right I'm going to get serious now going into pros and he's only been a pro for three years but like he's 06:29.733 --> 06:31.033 [SPEAKER_00]: All wrong game is very good. 06:31.113 --> 06:45.177 [SPEAKER_00]: I think the best part of his game is his patience, his ability to wait for that take down to come an unbelievable double egg, some of the nastiest ground opponent you'll ever see and very very good submissions as well. 06:45.197 --> 06:51.779 [SPEAKER_00]: He's only three submissions, you know, ten out of ten fights and seven knuckles, but I would gather that a lot of them 06:57.342 --> 07:03.023 [SPEAKER_00]: So for Aegemiki, is this a possibility of a big loss here? 07:03.423 --> 07:04.784 [SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, there's no doubt about it. 07:05.224 --> 07:08.625 [SPEAKER_00]: It's July of his wrestling good enough to trouble someone like Aegemiki. 07:10.205 --> 07:12.485 [SPEAKER_00]: He has ground up on the loft to trouble someone like Aegemiki. 07:12.525 --> 07:16.006 [SPEAKER_00]: He has good power on the feet as well to trouble Aegemiki, haven't talked about him in the feet much. 07:16.426 --> 07:19.207 [SPEAKER_00]: Because he kind of just waits and doesn't do a whole pile like... 07:20.147 --> 07:21.048 [SPEAKER_00]: I want to say a way. 07:22.009 --> 07:28.155 [SPEAKER_00]: He is very, very, very aggressive with his movements, but I don't think very aggressive with his punches and strikes. 07:28.975 --> 07:31.117 [SPEAKER_00]: He kind of run, you know, goals, actually. 07:31.137 --> 07:32.118 [SPEAKER_00]: Johnny's really good at it. 07:32.178 --> 07:35.621 [SPEAKER_00]: A little bit like Atasania at times, but maybe not maybe more aggressive than Atasania. 07:35.641 --> 07:37.063 [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, definitely more aggressive than Atasania. 07:37.643 --> 07:39.425 [SPEAKER_00]: He's fakes and faints, especially like, 07:40.823 --> 07:43.726 [SPEAKER_00]: pushing you against the cage, it looks like an opportunity is going to hit you and he doesn't. 07:44.347 --> 07:47.831 [SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot of that is just to set up to take down your respect in the punch to come off. 07:48.171 --> 07:52.876 [SPEAKER_00]: He's not hitting me, he's not hitting me, he's not hitting me, he's going to hit me and didn't take down boom on the ground. 07:53.417 --> 07:57.942 [SPEAKER_00]: Does the Ajameki, I think, the other side of it, have enough of a submission 08:02.742 --> 08:03.803 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't have the answer to that question. 08:03.823 --> 08:04.343 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll be honest. 08:04.943 --> 08:06.685 [SPEAKER_00]: He is very, very good underground. 08:06.705 --> 08:07.325 [SPEAKER_00]: I've very good enough. 08:07.345 --> 08:09.646 [SPEAKER_00]: He's back as I look as unusual in MMA. 08:09.666 --> 08:14.409 [SPEAKER_00]: These days, as is when I have ever fought someone like him with that sort of threat. 08:15.750 --> 08:16.971 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so. 08:17.631 --> 08:25.676 [SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't, you know, unless one of these lads that I really kind of haven't heard of are heard of and passing have as good a game as he. 08:25.716 --> 08:28.498 [SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's a very interesting fight. 08:29.639 --> 08:30.019 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll do a bit 08:33.470 --> 08:47.838 [SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to pick against AJ and he with that record, but I think a life thing on his flyer fair, I just think that wrestling in that ground alone is going to be too much for a lot of people, and I think AJ and McKee can stop but take down but can he stop every deck down and can he stop every bit of the ground alone, I wouldn't be so sure. 08:47.878 --> 08:55.002 [SPEAKER_00]: So to an interest of it, I wonder will this be the start of the fight where AJ tries to be more patient even than him and pick him off a little bit? 08:55.622 --> 09:21.853 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I find it's very hard to understand how this fight's going to go to me on it's like I don't I think I understand what is what I ever tried to do and I everything I just said but like what did you make he going to do like is he is he going to try to play him on the ground is he going to try to you know sweep as the fight is going to the ground and try to get him top and try to use his Submission game ours you're just going to go to the bottom and try to beat him off the bottom I don't think he's going to do the first part of that we do the latter 09:23.217 --> 09:29.180 [SPEAKER_00]: probably don't think so either but we will see as well as but I can spend the day talking about that fight but that's the main event anyway and that's my breakdown of it. 09:29.241 --> 09:31.142 [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just leaning in this poloia. 09:31.442 --> 09:40.547 [SPEAKER_00]: The comment event in is Liz Kramush versus Viviani Ruja in a very interesting fight at a 125. 09:40.607 --> 09:47.211 [SPEAKER_00]: There's just not a channel 125 and we don't think at the moment and the quarter that you've had, the quarter that you've had, it's quite an result coming up about 09:53.275 --> 10:04.207 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he got to take it off or anything but the Velator Velestoria exists anymore, so she's not champion, but you know if he's around a rupture coming over from DOC Beach, and you and our first fight, we know how good she is. 10:04.267 --> 10:09.633 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, like I talk about a letter system, I think she's one of the best athletes at that way of class. 10:10.334 --> 10:11.654 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, she's 39 years of age now. 10:11.674 --> 10:14.735 [SPEAKER_00]: It hasn't gone great for her over the last few years. 10:14.755 --> 10:17.276 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, she's kind of been win one lose one start to fight her. 10:17.356 --> 10:18.736 [SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, this Camus has been out of thing. 10:18.756 --> 10:20.197 [SPEAKER_00]: But that even though, you know, she's 42. 10:20.237 --> 10:27.838 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, she's won her last three in a row, last Italian Santa, so before that, it was like, I don't know how many, nine in a row, I think. 10:28.379 --> 10:29.459 [SPEAKER_00]: So, that's, 10:30.199 --> 10:31.921 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's a very, very interesting fight. 10:32.381 --> 10:34.483 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think that it'll probably be a decision. 10:34.943 --> 10:38.486 [SPEAKER_00]: This kind of issue usually wins a lot of forefights because she's the stronger fighter. 10:39.026 --> 10:44.671 [SPEAKER_00]: I wonder against someone like Vivienne Eruja, who is, you know, similar start to build, similar start to hide, similar start to strength. 10:45.071 --> 10:46.212 [SPEAKER_00]: Will she be able to do that? 10:46.252 --> 10:49.915 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, someone who's been fighting at a very, very high level for a good long time. 10:49.935 --> 10:51.877 [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she really hasn't fought anyone like that. 10:52.317 --> 10:55.360 [SPEAKER_00]: A powerful Talia Santas in her last five, you know, 10:55.981 --> 11:04.231 [SPEAKER_00]: Laura Danan and Gene Bishop, you know what I'll do with respect or our good fighters, but I don't think they're that level So it's a big fight there. 11:04.331 --> 11:13.161 [SPEAKER_00]: I hard to pick against crime moves to be honest hard to pick against crime moves Not at all about that third fight from the top thing is a very you know mid 11:15.979 --> 11:21.581 [SPEAKER_00]: Top five rankings, like we have both between Alphidevers and Alexander Shibuya, spoke to Alphidevers. 11:22.621 --> 11:37.205 [SPEAKER_00]: Not too long ago, and you know, they actually fought back in 2021, I think it was, and this is a really match of that, and he's kind of telling me he was like, it didn't, not in so many words, but he didn't really believe in himself back in that fight, and that's the thing that's really changed in his career. 11:37.225 --> 11:42.707 [SPEAKER_00]: And you can absolutely see that, you know, the famous winning in Scab Zero, Aberdan, I spoke to him in the week before that, and like, 11:43.167 --> 11:49.250 [SPEAKER_00]: I even said it to him and interviewed it last week, I didn't believe you'd win that fight, but didn't the words you said, it's kind of made me believe. 11:49.810 --> 11:55.213 [SPEAKER_00]: I talked to fighters all the time, and you know, I kind of, they're telling me they're going away and I totally believed them. 11:55.813 --> 12:01.356 [SPEAKER_00]: Most, they don't ever sometimes, I do win their favorites or whatever, but he was a bit massive under that, I'm gonna say, go cry, cry. 12:01.996 --> 12:03.697 [SPEAKER_00]: I actually kind of think he was going to win. 12:03.717 --> 12:06.980 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, he or even though I didn't at all, pick him around, think like that. 12:07.220 --> 12:08.261 [SPEAKER_00]: And then he went out and he did it. 12:08.301 --> 12:14.286 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, when someone does that, and then they tell you, a guy that I've already lasted, they think they can do it this time. 12:14.306 --> 12:15.867 [SPEAKER_00]: You kind of tend to believe him as well. 12:16.648 --> 12:18.930 [SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is a different start of matchup, and it's going to be tough as well. 12:18.970 --> 12:21.131 [SPEAKER_00]: I bought them last two, so I'm going to make them out of their last flight. 12:21.872 --> 12:36.295 [SPEAKER_00]: So like what do someone going to do over next while like is he going to remain in PFL is he going to be a PFL fighter by the time board of these guys fight next and if not in on their boat ranked in the top five around there I went here could absolutely put them right back in there. 12:36.315 --> 12:43.496 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll pause uses out injured right now and and that I suppose frees up another spot where one of them might have had to fight someone like Paul use. 12:43.516 --> 12:45.476 [SPEAKER_00]: So this is a big fight for them. 12:45.496 --> 12:47.817 [SPEAKER_00]: You know Sheeply is 12:48.957 --> 12:51.599 [SPEAKER_00]: I would say they're both similar enough type of fighters to be honest. 12:51.619 --> 12:59.685 [SPEAKER_00]: I should be probably better wrestling or would wrestle a little bit more, but both guys, you don't like to troll a few shots on the feet. 13:00.205 --> 13:01.666 [SPEAKER_00]: When I say similar fighters, similar sort of... 13:04.225 --> 13:25.022 [SPEAKER_00]: way about things, you know, different techniques would be used if you want to put it that way, there is much more of like an outside fighter who is more confident in his ability than he once was and loves strong kind of spinning kicks and things like that, you know, generally throwing a couple of them as well, but I think he's more kind of power inside, could finish around the ground as well. 13:25.382 --> 13:28.065 [SPEAKER_00]: The question here is, has the gap been closed enough? 13:28.725 --> 13:33.548 [SPEAKER_00]: In those years, like Chevrolet is only, it's only 33 years of age, it's not like he's gotten old since then. 13:33.568 --> 13:41.072 [SPEAKER_00]: And you know, Alvarez, in fact, a year older, but I suppose as rich, he's peak maybe a little bit later, but one of the similar amount of fight and all of that. 13:42.833 --> 13:47.735 [SPEAKER_00]: If you asked me this before, do Spender Mega Man of Alvarez fight, I would have told you, Jesus. 13:48.256 --> 13:51.077 [SPEAKER_00]: Alvarez is going to that next level, I think he's been in, but that was Spender Mega Man of fight. 13:51.097 --> 13:53.519 [SPEAKER_00]: I think shows a lot of things that Chevrolet can probably do again. 13:54.259 --> 14:02.323 [SPEAKER_00]: But the first fight was close, so I don't know if he'd ever think he's a better fighter than he was, then I think Shabley is slightly better, but, you know, it's probably still around the same, I think Davis is a lot better. 14:02.343 --> 14:06.446 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, you know, I, it's one of those ones. 14:07.755 --> 14:12.598 [SPEAKER_00]: probably lean shabby, but if they have a physical price, I might take a whirl on him. 14:13.158 --> 14:22.864 [SPEAKER_00]: Um, do you know what I talked on the lead off to this was, uh, Rob Wilkinson, who's fired Abraham fighting Abraham Babley at, uh, at light of your Babley's coming out from everywhere. 14:22.904 --> 14:26.106 [SPEAKER_00]: He was the champion out in PFL Africa last year. 14:27.146 --> 14:46.886 [SPEAKER_00]: He beat Justin Tarak in a wipeout in 21 seconds in the finale there, you know after you kind of tough time the year before our 80 months kind of previous lasted symptoms, it was probably you know under the top two heavier prospects in the world at the time, I've seen he last to put your a man, he wasn't in it since in just a 14:48.667 --> 15:11.207 [SPEAKER_00]: Nassiminto as well did badly but now after the treatment is wrong he's bad, but he's down a light everywhere And it's funny because we probably look at him obviously was the farmer middleware Speaking him, he's coming out for three losses, he just had a baby He wasn't able to go over and train in New Zealand with At a sinus camp in Old Broke's camp, what city kickboxing I was forget to never 15:15.037 --> 15:33.957 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you fill me with the most confidence to be honest, like I think we're able to get to Nadie's best, a better fighter than Abraham Babley, but is he at his best right now after coming off of three losses, I don't know is the preparation the best, I'm not sure if this interview is even out yet to be honest, but it'll be out today or tomorrow whatever it's out. 15:35.859 --> 15:38.821 [SPEAKER_00]: Abraham Babley, again, a good fighter. 15:38.941 --> 15:40.201 [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's as good as Wilkinson. 15:40.362 --> 15:41.062 [SPEAKER_00]: We will see. 15:41.182 --> 15:42.443 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd probably lead in Babley. 15:42.823 --> 15:43.623 [SPEAKER_00]: Can Babley make the way. 15:43.663 --> 15:44.764 [SPEAKER_00]: This was the first issue. 15:44.804 --> 15:46.645 [SPEAKER_00]: He's a big boy for heavy. 15:46.665 --> 15:47.165 [SPEAKER_00]: That's who we'll see. 15:47.185 --> 15:54.689 [SPEAKER_00]: We can get down the light everywhere, but I think Babley might push him against the cage, make it heavy land a few heavy shots, even take the fight to the ground and be the ground upon I think. 15:55.189 --> 15:56.590 [SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see on that one. 15:58.091 --> 16:05.239 [SPEAKER_00]: And a few out of five to definitely want to mention Arianna's Lipsky is back as a Lipsky fighting against the aforementioned Jenna Bishop. 16:05.259 --> 16:18.494 [SPEAKER_00]: That's a good fight for that division, you know, Bishop is lost at his grandma's, but there's one tree over four around that, one in all, Lipsky is in in the PFL after you know going on tree. 16:19.415 --> 16:23.037 [SPEAKER_00]: You know, UFC sent poch, you know, I think she's kind of got life back in her now. 16:23.077 --> 16:25.058 [SPEAKER_00]: I'd expect Lipski to go on her own there. 16:25.458 --> 16:28.039 [SPEAKER_00]: This way of classes is definitely heating up, no doubt about it. 16:28.420 --> 16:31.281 [SPEAKER_00]: Cause I'm making a mad Sharapov is back as well. 16:31.961 --> 16:34.963 [SPEAKER_00]: Really good fight between Saren and Kemadav and Justin Vetzel. 16:34.983 --> 16:35.643 [SPEAKER_00]: Love that fight. 16:36.324 --> 16:38.725 [SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it was a sharing car in Lira, Johannes. 16:38.745 --> 16:41.746 [SPEAKER_00]: The other fight with fight on the car as well as a kind of a younger guy. 16:41.766 --> 16:42.787 [SPEAKER_00]: His fight, Kobe Fair. 16:43.407 --> 16:44.087 [SPEAKER_00]: Again, Steniel. 16:44.828 --> 16:47.789 [SPEAKER_00]: This is Digan, who's making his probably a beyond tree and all. 16:49.310 --> 16:52.963 [SPEAKER_00]: Looking forward to seeing that and tuning for my post show as well. 16:53.103 --> 16:55.792 [SPEAKER_00]: I'll leave it there, my name is Sean Cheen, for Shardog.com and I'll see you all.