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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, welcome everybody to the Lakers Legacy podcast where pencils down, no more advising your big boards, it is finally time to run a muck, no, not a muck, but a muck, because the 2020 sex.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 2026 because the 2026 NBA draft is finally here, pause.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm your host Jonathan Hernandez and believe it or not, the NBA draft is just two days away, expect the trade speculation to ramp up, expect the NBA activity to ramp up and it already has with all several teams resigning their own free agents like the Phoenix Suns with Colin Gillespie and Jordan Goodwin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the Atlanta Hawk signing C.J.

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[SPEAKER_00]: McCollum to a one year $21 million deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I expect all of that stuff to continue lighting up our X slash Twitter boards the next few days and something big might happen for the Lakers as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, welcome to the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Happy Father's Day to everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hope you guys are enjoying your day, especially I want to shout out happy Father's Day to all of the dog dads out there because I am one of those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, thank you guys for joining me on today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For today's episode, because things could change second by second, I wanted to quickly give you guys my final Lakers draft predictions of what I think the Lakers will do on Tuesday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will run through four different scenarios.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I doubt I will predict any of them correctly, because with the situation, the Lakers are in having potentially having max cap space

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[SPEAKER_00]: with the situation the leaders are in, they could literally go a billion different ways, a billion different doctor's strange ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I highly doubt I'll be able to nail it on the dot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Having said that, I will try and predict which way they go regardless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll give myself at least four shots at doing so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So today,

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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty straightforward episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to run through four scenarios.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you guys my prediction if the lake is trade up in the draft, if they stay put and just draft at number 25, if they trade back in the draft, meaning they trade number 25 for a later pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they trade out entirely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they trade their number 25 pick for a player or a salary dump, et cetera, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the four scenarios I'll run through in today's episode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be a very quick draft centric episode around the episode out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll also bring up four cheap explosives of

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[SPEAKER_00]: mid-second round or potentially late-second round undrafted free agent guys that I think the lakers should sign to a two-way deal, give a camp invite to et cetera, et cetera, if they want to boost their athleticism.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys for tuning in today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Without further ado, let's get into my draft night predictions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's get into my first

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, in the comments, if you guys could update me if anything happens that I'm not able to look at right now, if some breaking news happens, let me know in the comments below.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Jonathan's 26 Lakers predictions, let's start with what happens if the Lakers trade up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I think the Lakers will do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've narrowed it down, I'm still giving a lot of caveats I know, but I'm trying to get a lot of hits at this to see if I can get a smidgen of this correctly, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the event that the Lakers trade up in this year's draft, I think there are two teams they will do it with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number one, the Toronto Raptors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Lakers could trade number 25 to the Raptors for number 19 and Grady Dick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now why would the Raptors do this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Raptors are a very, very expensive team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could actually use some salary relief and in this scenario, they would be dumping Grady Dick's

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[SPEAKER_00]: they would be dumping dick on the Lakers pause.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would be dumping grady dick's $7 million onto the Lakers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Lakers would just absorb that money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, do you want dick on your team?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, that's something you have to ask yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want the Lakers eating up $7 million of their cap space with dick?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, something you have to ask yourselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if the Lakers are able to jump six spots, it may be worth it to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: take in some gritty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I could keep doing this all day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Folks, I better move on from this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So essentially, in this scenario that the Lakers trade up in the draft, I think they could trade number 25 to the Toronto Raptors in order to absorb gritty dick $7 million plus they get the 19th pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's one scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other scenario would be with OKC Thunder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This might be a little bit more unlikely because I'm honestly not sure where the Thunder's heads are at with regards to Lou Dort, Aaron Wiggins, Isaiah Joe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They may have high-asking prices for them and in this scenario, the Lakers are actually benefiting in this deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But here me out, Lickas would trade number 25.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The OKC Thunder would give us number 17, and they would dump Lou Dort onto us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lou Dort's $17 million, $17 million club option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why I'm saying dollar in that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, maybe the more likely scenario is they give us Aaron Wiggins or Isaiah Joe and that's what allows us to move up to number 17 now that I'm thinking more about this, but I'm not a huge fan of Lou Dort and in order for me to take in that $17 million, even though I know Lou Dort is like a former defensive player of the year candidate, former first team all defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's on the downturn and we might be trading for him at just the exact wrong time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so for me, if the Thunder want us to eat into $17 million of our cap space, they better give us something in return.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think jumping up eight spots in the draft would be that something in return that I personally would do it for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if the Thunder would do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure if the Lakers would do it, although we have her news that the Lakers are interested in, you know, trading for Lou Dort.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, in a deal with the OKC Thunder, I think I would want to offset some of Dord's $17 million, so the deal would look something like, you know, number 25 and Jake LaRavia's $6 million.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if the OKC Thunder would have anything to like, if the Thunder would want Jake LaRavia, or if they could use him, he seems like a Thunder sort of player though, but number 25

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[SPEAKER_00]: after they, you know, opt into his club option, plus okay C's number 17 pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the Toronto scenario, it would be number 25, and we just absorb greedy dick and get number 19.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether or not this is realistic, I'm not sure, but these are the two teams that I think the Lakers will trade up for if they trade up for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the scenario that the Lakers actually trade up in the draft, I think they're doing it for three players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those players would be, Maréz Johnson Jr. if he slips to the number 17 or number 19 spot,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yaxo Lendamborg, his teammate, both mission and Michigan guys by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I think the Lakers, if they trade up, they're going to trade up for these two players, because there's the Rob Polinka, Michigan connection, but also these are two really good players, as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Maraz Johnson Jr., Yaxo Lendamborg, and Karim Lopez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are projected to be in the lottery around, you know, I've seen anywhere from 8 to 12, but it's very, it could be very likely that they also slip out and end up in that, you know, 16 to 20 range in the way that we've seen guys that Cam Wittmore, who are sure fire top 8 picks slip all the way to number 20 in the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Yaxel,

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[SPEAKER_00]: has apparently not had a great, has not had great workouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His interviews have had been great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also going to be 24 next season when the season starts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's an older prospect and despite the fact that he's very versatile, very athletic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he actually looks like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Gordon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I've talked in the past about how co-op heat could be the next Aaron Gordon right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yaxel already looks like Aaron Gordon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's also older, which is why, you know, there's the trade off there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in any case, if the Lakers trade up, expect them to trade up for, in my opinion, one of these three guys, if they slip to number 17 in 19.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perez Johnson, Jr. Yaxo, Linda Borg, and Karim Lopez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cream Lopez, I think, is, you know, slated to be the first Mexican born player to be drafted in the lotto potentially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, the Lakers drafting a Mexican player would be very fitting for the melting pot that is Los Angeles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But these are the three players that I think the Lakers will trade up for if they trade up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, the two teams that I think they're going to trade up with,

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[SPEAKER_00]: have apron luxury tax issues that they may want to sort out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those two teams would be the Toronto Raptors at number 19 and the Oklahoma City Thunder at number 17.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on to my next prediction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's go to the, if the Lakers stand pat at number 25 scenario and I'll give you guys my prediction on who I think they're gonna pick at number 25.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so obviously the stand pat scenario is very self-explanatory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is if the Lakers just stay at number 25 and don't do anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the Lakers keep their pick, they don't trade down, they don't trade up or trade down,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they don't trade it for like a veteran, they don't do a salary dump deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the liakers will draft one of co-opete, Jaden Quintons, Chris Sinak Jr. Isaiah Evans,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and zubi edgeo for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I gave you guys five names and I know I'm cheating here because it's like, oh, you're giving, you're not really actually predicting who the lakers will pick at number 25.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm giving you the five names that I think, you know, if they are still there at number 25, I think the lakers will very realistically just

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[SPEAKER_00]: draft one of those players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Out of those five players that I listed, the one that I really want would be Jayden Quintons, even though I know there's high risk there because of his injury concerns, the fact that he only played four games last season with Kentucky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They shut him down because he was having knee swelling and knee complications after an ACL injury and surgery, the

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just like a doothiero, he's also very explosive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also very athletic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also got a high ceiling and high upside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so I personally would want Jaden Quaintins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also very intrigued by Chris and Act Junior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although I know he's going to be a project for the Lakers, but the blend of physical tools and shooting is very intriguing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you guys know my love for Isaiah Evans as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lanky, like Brandon Ingram, has got some defensive potential 0.7 steel 0.7 blocks, also slashes into the lane and Tomahawk jams things down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really like Isaiah Evans's ability to be a potential 3 and D player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, I like all five of these players, okay?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I had my pick, if Jaden Quintens is there, I hope the Lakers pick him at number 25.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if you ask me to narrow it down

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[SPEAKER_00]: fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you guys my prediction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Lakers will draft Coa Pete if he's still there at number 25.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know this is going to be very divisive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know bunch of Lakers fans probably just threw up in their mouths, whatever, but I think the Lakers will draft Coa Pete because he gives them the perfect, not perfect, but he gives them a good blend of already having a floor of being this

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[SPEAKER_00]: dude in a running backs body who's got explosive athleticism.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know on the outset that he's helping you out in that respect, and he can be a lob threat at the power forward position for Luca Donchich, the John Collins type lob threat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His shooting mechanics are obviously broken.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is something that's going to need to be worked out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the reason why I think co-opete is potentially a

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a smart player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows how to pass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows how to make quick, smart read plays in an offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: On top of all of the, you know, people have been talking about Joshua Jefferson and Alan Graves and how, how they have high basketball like you and whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Koopit has that, but he's still only 19 years old, 1920 years old, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Lakers will, again, co-opete's floor is this dude can jump out of the gym.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has shown the ability to stone wall dudes defensively move on the perimeter laterally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this is a guy who coming into the college season was project to be a lot of pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because his shot is broken, that's why he's slipping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so for the Lakers, it's a chance to kind of like Jaden Quintons, but without the injury concerns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Lakers will pick a guy like co-appeat if he's still there at number 25 because it's a chance to get a lot of rated prospect who just so happened to fall because of the shooting concerns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think the Lakers will be scared away by that too much, but we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also a clutch client, which is why I'm sort of predicting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and reading a little bit of the tea leaves here as to why they would potentially pick co-opete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I personally also let co-opete, he's in like my top five here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just would go jade and quaintance first and maybe even a guy like Chris Denak over co-opete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think if he's still there at number 25, it's going to be hard for the Lakers in my opinion to pass up on the ability to sort of mold and groom the next Aaron Gordon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they're confident that they have the

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[SPEAKER_00]: development infrastructure in place to continue to work on his shooting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, a guy like Aaron Gordon and even guys like Blake Griffin in the past did not come into the league being able to shoot from three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blake Griffin could shoot from the mid range and co-op heat does have that mid range game, but right now it's very hitchy and like side windy when it comes to how he shoots from the outside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if the liquor stand pat at number 25,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The lakers will draft co-op, that's my prediction, but Jaden Quintons, if he's still there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so those are my first two scenarios, the trade-ups scenario, the stand-pats scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're going to get into what if the lakers trade back?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they get trade number 25 for a later pick and potentially a rotation player as well, and then we'll also get to what if the lakers trade out of this draft entirely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Before we get to those two scenarios,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I could please ask you guys to, once again, just remind you guys to comment down below, drum up the engagement, but comment respectfully because I can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't take some of your guys' instel comments, guys, maybe I shouldn't be doing this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I can't take it, but you know what, that's my request.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys seem to have so many requests to me in the comments, so that's my personal request.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just be respectful and civil if you're going to bring up your, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: debates or ideas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that's a tough ask in this day and age in the internet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But comment down below.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get into the next scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My next prediction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's the trade backs scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: and trade it back for a later pick plus a rotation player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I predict they will do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, and I know this is gonna sound boring, but to me the most likely is trade back scenario would be with the Brooklyn Nets because they have picks number 33 and 43 I believe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or maybe it's like 33 and 42, it's one of those two things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the Lakers will trade number 25 to the Brooklyn S for either number 33.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or number 43, or both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the Brooklyn Nets wants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the Lakers are willing to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But on top of that, the Lakers would be trading for day-run sharp in the process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They will just absorb day-run sharp in the deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the Lakers are only getting back 43, then I would also require the Brooklyn Nets to take on Dalton Connect so that we offset some of day-run sharp six million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's essentially just a swap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially because you know, the lakers are going to be taking the number 25 picks rookie salary, which would be at around $3 million and swapping that out for a cheaper deal at the number 43 pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's my prediction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The lakers would trade number 25 and potentially doubts and connect to the Brooklyn nets for number 33 or number 43 or both if they can swing it and day around sharp where the lakers get their sure fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: backup, bullyball, big, who can pass, who rebounds like crazy, who can kind of space it from the floor, very versatile, big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so they'd have their backup center short-up even before, you know, free agency started in this deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a low leverage deal that I honestly would be super down for, especially because the Lakers still get the number 33rd or number 43rd pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zubi Agio for if he drops to that point, Duke's Isaiah Evans if he's still there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He should still be there at number 33 potentially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Terrace Reed Jr. out of, is it Terrace Reed out of UConn and Boba Miller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think the Lakers with the Brooklyn Nets Pick will draft one of EGEO4, Isaiah Evans, Taurus Reed or Boba Miller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I was forced to pick one player that they will pick, I think I will go Zubi EGEO4 at number 33.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So final deal, my final prediction is the Lakers will trade, number 25 in Dalton Connect for day-ron sharp and number 33, and with a 33rd pick, the Lakers will draft Zubi EGO4.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The safe choice is probably Baba Miller because he's going to be there in that range regardless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, just think about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did post a recent video where I go through a number of trade-backs scenarios beyond just this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to check out some more wild and zany ideas, check that video out because there are some teams that I think would want to get into the first round in that

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[SPEAKER_00]: number 31 to number 46 range at this top of the second round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I concocted some ideas of ways that the Lakers could trade with those teams get a later pick but also get back a player that could help them this season, this upcoming season, kind of like this day around sharp net steel, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: some more creative options.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to check that out, check that video out on the channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, that is my trade back scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's move on to my last scenario and let's talk about what happens if the Lakers trade out of the draft entirely, what if they trade number 25 and don't get back a pick, what would they do with that and who would they, who would that be worth it for to do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: English.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's the trade-backs scenario, and here's my prediction for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A couple of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First, I think the Lakers could trade number 25 to just salary-dump Jared Vanderbilt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they have the opportunity to do that and get off of Vanderbilt's $12.4 million next season,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and keep in mind, he's also on for $13 million the next year with a player option that he will definitely take.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the Lagos have the opportunity to just get off of Jared Vanderbilt's remaining $26 million, I think they will do that with number 25.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and or they will also try and get off of Dalton connects four point two four point six million dollars this upcoming season as well because what this does for the makers is it frees up more ample camp more ample cap space for them this summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, ideally, they go with the trade back trade down scenario, instead of like not getting anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think it's very possible that the Lakers just use 25 as the wheel grease center to get a team like the Brooklyn Nets who have cap space or a team like the Chicago Bulls to just take on Jared Vanderbilt and all of a sudden, voila, we have $12 million that we can use in free agency.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think the more likely scenario, though, is that the Lakers in whatever deal that they have brewing with the 231 first or the 233 first, I think they will try and put Jared Vanderbilt into that deal, because regardless of how much salary they absorb,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll want to offset, like for example, let's use Miles Turner as an example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's making like $23 million this upcoming season, I believe, maybe even more than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or let's use Jet Allen as an example because he's making like $28 million.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the Lakers trade with the calves for Jared Allen, and I'm not saying this is a realistic thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just using the numbers to prove a point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the Lakers trade with the calves and say, hey, we can absorb Jared Allen's $28 million for you because we know you're trying to get below particular aprons, save some money, yada yada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll give you guys the number 25 pick in order to take Jared Allen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the liquors will try their darned hardest to also say, but you guys got to take Jared Vanderbilt's $12 million.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're saving you a lot of money over the course and lifespan of Jared Allen's deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All you have to do is eat up Jared Vanderbilt's remaining $26 million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: $12 million next year, $13 million the year after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But essentially, you're saving $16 million in this swap plus getting the number 25 pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is, so

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[SPEAKER_00]: More likely than the Lakers just trading 25 to get off of Vando's 12 million dollars in general.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'll want to do something like that and use Vando's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just kind of jacked all that up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Lakers will want to use Vando's deal in whatever deal they have that they're using the 2031 or 2033rd first on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess in the jet Allen deal, the Lakers would trade the

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[SPEAKER_00]: but they forced the Cavaliers to take on Vandos $12 million so that we offset some of those $28 million that Jared Allen is owed and he doesn't eat into all of our cap space if that makes any sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was very convoluted and confusing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: kudos to you guys for sticking through that, but that's my first thought on any trade out scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this graphic is wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It should say trade out instead of trade back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the lakers are trading out of number 25 entirely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So outside of that option, what if the lakers just trade 25 for a veteran player?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who could that veteran player be?

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, and these are my predictions now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll get to my actual prediction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if the liquor's trade out of number 25, they could do so for a player like Daniel Gaffard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have seen from the Dallas Mavericks contingent on X that they would be totally down to trade Gaffard's remaining $14 million next season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe he's on for like two more years after that about the same price.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Navs fans seem ready to move on from Gafford because he doesn't necessarily fit the Cooper Flag timeline and they would rather use number 25 to get another young player who better fits Cooper Flag's timeline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the Lakers could trade number 25 for Daniel Gafford.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Mavericks have an entirely new front office personnel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No more Nico Harrison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've wiped their slate clean wiped their hands clean of that look a donchish debacle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anybody who's saying the lakeers and Mavericks will never trade with one another again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't be so sure of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the lakeers could trade number 25 for Daniel Gaffard or.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know these are two predictions, but give me this, guys, or they traded for ease, Missy of the New Orleans Pelicans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Lakers would just essentially absorb both of these players' contracts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eves Missy is only making $4 million next season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, this is like the easiest, lowest leverage move that the low-hanging fruit move that the Lakers could make.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know the New Orleans Pelicans who don't have a single first round pick in this year's draft would want to get back into the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because they foolishly traded there, 2026, unprotected first to the Atlanta Hawks in order to move up to get Derek Queen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, number 25 for either Daniel Gaffard or number 25 for Eve's Missy, I think both teams would actually consider doing either of these moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so those are my predictions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are the four scenarios once again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys are coming in late, I just ran through these four scenarios, gave you guys my predictions on each scenario, the trade up scenario where the lake is, you know, trade with OKC or the Toronto Raptors for their earlier picks and absorption salary in the process, the state puts scenario at number 25 where the lake is will pick one of Jaden Quintons, Chris

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[SPEAKER_00]: The trade back scenario where the Lakers get a later round pick plus a rotation player slash fringe starter that can help them now, I predicted that they would, you know, trade with the Brooklyn nets for number 33 and day around sharp and then the trade out scenario where they just trade it straight up for a rotation player so that would be Daniel Gafford or eavesmissy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I should say, even in the trade-outs scenario, I do still think the lakers are going to buy another second round pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of cheated there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think the lakers will like trade out entirely of this draft because as we know, as we've seen in the past, even if they trade out of the draft entirely, they will always at the very least,

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[SPEAKER_00]: sign an undrafted free agent guy to a training camp deal or to a two-way contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all is not lost folks if the Lakers trade number 25 for Daniel Gaffard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Lakers will buy their way back into the second round, draft a guy like Felix Agpara who's one of my favorite second round sleepers and or also sign two or three undrafted free agent guys in the process as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we are leaving here with something is what I'm trying to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so around this episode out, I want to talk to you guys about how the Lakers can get some cheap explosives in this year's draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm talking, who are some guys in the mid-second round, mid-to-late second round slash undrafted free agent pool that the Lakers could nab this year, who their primary purpose for us is to add speed and jump out of the JMF lettuism.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, the Lakers could sign them as undrafted reagents or the Lakers could, yeah, draft them in the second round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, before I get to those though, I do have a super chat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: us, us, him, Reeves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for the super chat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're doing a great job Jonathan, thanks for all your hard work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hoping for Hakez in a Janice trade fallout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I would very much hope for that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so before we get to

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, my cheap explosives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll address Austin Reeves common.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much once again for the 10 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to use it to drink some coffee after this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in any honest deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say Miami heat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Milwaukee books.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like things are picking up steam in that direction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know the the lakeers have been, I know the buzz surrounding the lakeers has mainly been around Kaleauware, which makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think number one, I would love Kaleauware in any sort of deal as a third party facilitator, especially if the Milwaukee books don't want him for some reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yes, I would love Colelle wear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think to Austin Reeves' point, Jaime Hawke is maybe like, you know, the lower hanging fruit, lighter leverage, lighter lift sort of collateral damage that springs free in any Miami heat Milwaukee bucks deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the UCLA connection is there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's Mexican-American.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he wanted the lakers to draft him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, when they foolishly draft a jail in Hotshoffino instead and that year and that year's draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so this could be a chance of redemption for the Lakers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jaime Hawkeyes is only making, and I think it would be pretty easy for the Lakers to get him, because Jaime Hawkeyes, even though he is an older prospect, and one second, guys, I just want to look up his contract really quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jaime Hawke is already going to be as already 25 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's making $5.9 million next season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be a restricted free agent next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly do not see why the Milwaukee bucks would want Jaime Hawke is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to Austin Reeves point, I don't know what the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could we see them trade number 25 for Jaime?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in advance of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I would do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just kind of thinking out loud here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to see if either the bucks or Miami have a later pick that could also come our way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to concoct some Jaime Hawkins scenarios.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what about this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since we're keeping things draft centric, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say the three or 16 deal with the Milwaukee bucks and Miami heat ends up happening before the draft or on draft day could the Lakers get in and get high may hawk is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if the Lakers traded?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not saying I would do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what if the Lakers traded number 25 to the Milwaukee bucks?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 4, Jaime Hawke is who gets rerouted in all of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jaime Hawke is goes to the Lakers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's only making, again, 4.6 million dollars this upcoming season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, sorry, $5.9 million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what if the Lakers traded number 25 to the bucks for Jaime Hawke is $5.9 million.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Keep in mind he's going to be restricted for age and after this and the Lakers would need to think about his next contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yadana, but if they really like Jaime Hawke is number 25 for Jaime Hawke is and the Miami heats number 41 pick this upcoming draft would people be down for that like what if I told you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Lakers could still draft Boba Miller at number 41.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we came away from this year's draft with Jaime Hawkeyes and Boba Miller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would people be down with that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of just came up with that on the fly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't murder me for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the scenario in which I think the Lakers could get Jaime Hawkeyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sort of, you know, Jaime Hawkeyes is like the better, more fully realized version of Jake LaRavia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I like Jaime Hawke as if the lakers can get him in a collateral deal as the third or fourth or fifth party facilitator in any Milwaukee bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Miami heat scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that could be a possibility, but yeah, two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: J.R. Madrono's point, could you get both haques and where?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I would try to do, and I would be willing to, if I'm the Lakers trade number 25, and one of the first round picks, 2031, and a pick swap to get both Kalell, where, and Jaime Hawke is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, yes, that would be a godsend, and that would be the ultimate best case scenario for the Lakers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you once again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Spun things back around to make it draft centric and I think we did a good job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, to close this show because I do have to end this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the cheap explosives in the mid to late second round slash undrafted free agency in this year's draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so these are the four guys who I have outlined that I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: could be very easy gamble, not even gambles, very easy flyers for the lakers to take.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would instantly boost their area, lob thread ability, their run up and down ability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would give them speed, move them into this year's generation of athletes that you've seen on the San Antonio spurs, the Oklahoma City Thunder, et cetera, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Lakers would only have to spend or buy a late second rounder or just sign these guys to a training camp deal, sign these guys to Summer League, sign these guys to a two-way contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So really quickly, let's start with Dylan Mitchell, six-eight wing out of St. John's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of Zubi Egeo-Force teammates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This dude is a violent dunker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is looking to tear the rim down every single time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he pops off the floor, it is effortless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this dude supposedly has recorded like a 43-inch max vertical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you watch his highlights, it's hard to, you know, doubt that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, and by the way, this dude, so the problem with this guy is he can't shoot like whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he just can't shoot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even going to say there's like a projectable jump shot in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just can't shoot, but he six foot eight with a good wingspan super explosive really good defender, really good defender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would sort of describe him as taller KJ Martin, because you know, KJ Martin is like six five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: solid rebounder for his position, but mostly KJ Mart, and you know him as like a explosive leaper, and that's exactly who Dylan Mitchell is, except add that, you know, potential to be like an elite Tony Allen type defender on top of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's Dylan Mitchell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Lakers can find him in the mid-second round to late second round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two, William Kyle III, and this is someone that the Lakers actually worked out as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So keep tabs on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Six foot nine forward out of Syracuse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Super explosive as well, kinda lanky, but this dude is like running up and down the floor and throwing down windmill, Tomahawk jams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of describe him as a more quick, twitch, aerial, wenian Gabriel, or maybe like a Kenneth Farid of some sorts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He averaged like 8.7 rebounds and 2.4 blocks last season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was one of the leading blocks getters in his conference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a lot to like with William Kyle on both ends as a

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[SPEAKER_00]: as an aerial dynamic player so keep a look out for William Kyle especially because the Lakers actually worked him out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number three, Jaren Pierre Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a six foot five guard out of SMU.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Highlight real dunker, proto type sort of player at the guard position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's kind of like the KJ Martin, but I kind of view him more like a like a Ricky council junior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you guys remember Ricky council out of the Philadelphia 76ers, just this fearless dunker who can cock the ball back and hammer it down with such ferocity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really fun player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look out for Jaren Pier Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He seems to me more like a undrafted free agent guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then lastly, you guys already know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Felix, like, parah, six foot 10, a center out of Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, he looks like the most luka, like big out of this draft, lob threat sort of player, Nick Claxton type, explosive leaper, kind of see some DeAndre Jordan in him as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he can truly bulk up and become like a better defensive rebounder, he's a good offensive rebounder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But because he's a little bit slight in frame, he can get pushed around a little bit, but this dude can jump jump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: runs up and down the floor really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only started playing basketball at age 14 when he moved from Nigeria to the United States.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I really like Felix and Tara.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In total, these are the athletic explosives, cheap explosives that you guys should look out for in the second round, slash late second round, slash undrafted free agent guys after the draft is over on Tuesday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is crazy that it's here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it kind of feels like the draft is almost secondary to what's going on in the NBA with, you know, teams trying to re-sign their own free agents, the Janice domino looming over us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean buckle up folks if there was ever any time to buckle up and strap in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now is the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With that said, that'll do it for the show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys for watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you guys for the comments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for the super chat, Austin Reeves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really appreciate all the support.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really appreciate all the people who are respectful and civil in the comments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can all disagree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just don't have to be a greedy dick about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is my point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody have a great rest of your Father's Day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Say hello to Pops for me and shout out to the dog dads as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This has been Jonathan Hernandez of the Lakers Legacy podcast and I will catch you guys next time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.

