WEBVTT 00:01.094 --> 00:01.815 [SPEAKER_01]: What is up, everyone? 00:01.895 --> 00:09.200 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to another edition of The She-In-Show, Michan Chi in here on Shardog.com, and The Brilliant Brian Lacy. 00:09.300 --> 00:09.940 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I like that. 00:09.980 --> 00:10.801 [SPEAKER_01]: Brilliant Brian Lacy. 00:10.821 --> 00:12.482 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that should be the new moniker. 00:12.562 --> 00:13.343 [SPEAKER_01]: James, me today. 00:13.883 --> 00:15.304 [SPEAKER_03]: Like that, because I thank you very much. 00:15.344 --> 00:16.685 [SPEAKER_03]: It could be my wrestling name. 00:16.705 --> 00:16.965 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 00:17.706 --> 00:20.048 [SPEAKER_03]: Sometimes I always go for the bad nickname. 00:20.068 --> 00:22.850 [SPEAKER_02]: The Young DeTea, so the Brilliant Brian Lacy. 00:22.870 --> 00:23.690 [SPEAKER_02]: You get smashed. 00:23.730 --> 00:24.611 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Whitney. 00:24.671 --> 00:26.993 [SPEAKER_02]: A brilliant Brian, which certainly gets smashed. 00:27.493 --> 00:42.626 [SPEAKER_01]: The only problem is that you'll have to introduce yourself as that and as someone who often introduces myself as like the pod god Things like that and a certain point at a certain point against a big cringe But like anyway That looks much much. 00:42.646 --> 00:43.187 [SPEAKER_03]: She's on the way. 00:43.227 --> 00:47.150 [SPEAKER_03]: I've already got my wife working on it over there So I don't have the brilliant Brian website. 00:47.170 --> 00:53.796 [SPEAKER_01]: I've soon and they're sending you a link BBL Oh no, that might be something else never mind Right 00:56.245 --> 00:56.926 [SPEAKER_01]: What is that? 00:57.226 --> 00:59.490 [SPEAKER_01]: What do we have to dig it off? 01:00.631 --> 01:01.533 [SPEAKER_01]: Octagon 19. 01:02.454 --> 01:04.858 [SPEAKER_01]: And there's some big boys here in the Man of England. 01:04.878 --> 01:05.659 [SPEAKER_01]: We're in Florida. 01:06.120 --> 01:06.861 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess. 01:06.921 --> 01:10.746 [SPEAKER_01]: Katzenmaras in the Man of England over in Berlin. 01:11.807 --> 01:13.769 [SPEAKER_01]: Right, let's get it together. 01:14.029 --> 01:27.978 [SPEAKER_01]: I've started to wield the other day and I'll tell you what we mentioned and I think a couple of weeks ago when we were a couple of weeks ago, when we were talking on the podcast Which is a bit of a cheap initialary house is a bit of sell me all the octagon put out a 01:29.138 --> 01:48.730 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... put out a promo for this video and uh... like to have uh... the last line and uh... everyone else and then for like six seconds at the end of a dish or me and he's like I should be the biggest star for a guy and I should be the guy they're pushing and all this and he feels like they're not if he feels like i can't see their position and i said to him like is that just is that reality or jibbing your shoulders like 01:49.470 --> 01:58.275 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, maybe it's my genre, so I don't know this if I leave it, but that's just with the stories and I think that's why people are kind of engaged by the story. 01:58.295 --> 02:03.058 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that's why people look forward and I like the success that has followed has helped along. 02:03.699 --> 02:07.461 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a big event for Atagon, for MMA, when we're in stories at the top of it, isn't it? 02:07.501 --> 02:09.542 [SPEAKER_01]: And he is an interesting opponent in Kasimara. 02:09.562 --> 02:13.945 [SPEAKER_01]: So first of all, tell us about the story, obviously a little bit by a series of monster men and Irish men. 02:13.965 --> 02:18.648 [SPEAKER_01]: And you think that he is in Atagon and the great things he's done over there so far. 02:19.445 --> 02:34.602 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm trying to get to this this post I want to show you so this is this is we'll flurry we don't promote will flurry he's painted on on a on a building in the center of Germany's capital we have got him front and center painted 02:35.263 --> 02:35.883 [SPEAKER_03]: and the mural. 02:35.923 --> 02:41.346 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's so funny because it was after I don't know which card you spoke to him after, but he sent me a message that night. 02:41.366 --> 02:44.268 [SPEAKER_03]: It was like, why did they only put me at the end of the thing like that? 02:44.568 --> 02:49.751 [SPEAKER_03]: So I sent him a message explaining the way that marketing works and the cards we got to push and what the plan was. 02:50.131 --> 02:52.752 [SPEAKER_03]: We're doing a three-part series on Will Flurry. 02:52.772 --> 02:54.533 [SPEAKER_03]: We've never done it for any fight before. 02:54.833 --> 02:56.574 [SPEAKER_03]: We've got a mural being built for him. 02:56.614 --> 02:59.336 [SPEAKER_03]: We've got, you know, him not just talking about doing one fight. 02:59.356 --> 03:03.238 [SPEAKER_03]: There's some of potentially two fights could come back to back for Will Flurry. 03:03.258 --> 03:03.678 [SPEAKER_03]: There's some 03:04.138 --> 03:10.345 [SPEAKER_03]: and he was like, oh shit, I've been a bit of a prick, I'm just like, no, but I just don't know why you don't enjoy any of this stuff. 03:10.485 --> 03:12.647 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, you are at the top of the mountain. 03:12.987 --> 03:15.570 [SPEAKER_03]: You are literally the name everybody is talking about. 03:15.610 --> 03:17.232 [SPEAKER_03]: You're doing seminars in Germany. 03:17.592 --> 03:19.154 [SPEAKER_03]: You are smashing it in the cage. 03:19.174 --> 03:21.496 [SPEAKER_03]: You're media presence, you profile has never been inside. 03:21.917 --> 03:24.780 [SPEAKER_03]: We painted you on the building in Germany. 03:25.420 --> 03:29.143 [SPEAKER_03]: And I just said to him, I'll just want you to start enjoying this stuff because it's real. 03:29.223 --> 03:35.026 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like he's, and I'm saying this analogy with the utmost respect to the situation. 03:35.046 --> 03:40.530 [SPEAKER_03]: But you know when somebody's been in a really bad relationship, and they're so used to being treated like rubbish. 03:41.190 --> 03:47.615 [SPEAKER_03]: And then suddenly someone starts treating them okay, so they're so suspicious that they ruin that relationship as well I said we're not that guy. 03:47.655 --> 03:52.378 [SPEAKER_03]: We're not we're not that girl if you want to put it in that analogy We love him. 03:52.418 --> 03:53.219 [SPEAKER_03]: He's so good. 03:53.419 --> 03:55.780 [SPEAKER_03]: He's so marketable. 03:55.800 --> 04:07.568 [SPEAKER_03]: He can be himself in this promotion and top of the top of the thing he's like he's coming I don't know if you agree or not, but what he's doing in the cage is the best he's ever looked he skills at the highest they've ever been 04:09.190 --> 04:10.871 [SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's just something special. 04:10.911 --> 04:18.777 [SPEAKER_03]: I think we've collided at the perfect time for both of us, for him, for Octagon, and he's going to top the card in the capital city. 04:18.817 --> 04:20.699 [SPEAKER_03]: Our first ever show in Berlin. 04:20.799 --> 04:23.421 [SPEAKER_03]: We have waited a long time to go to this city. 04:23.441 --> 04:24.942 [SPEAKER_03]: He's been called for a while. 04:25.222 --> 04:31.167 [SPEAKER_03]: When we first went to Berlin to talk about doing a show, they offered us quarter of the arena. 04:31.627 --> 04:35.570 [SPEAKER_03]: They couldn't believe an MMA show would sell a full 17,000 tickets. 04:38.050 --> 04:38.990 [SPEAKER_03]: They offer this quarter. 04:39.010 --> 04:41.151 [SPEAKER_03]: We said, we can scale it down, we'll give you quarter. 04:41.732 --> 04:42.612 [SPEAKER_03]: So we didn't go to it. 04:42.892 --> 04:46.734 [SPEAKER_03]: So then we went back and now we've come and we've shown them what we can do with the full arena. 04:46.754 --> 04:50.296 [SPEAKER_03]: This will be a sellout and will flow, it will be on top of the card. 04:50.656 --> 04:54.297 [SPEAKER_02]: Fighting, Kazimera, so you represent Turkey but it's based in Germany. 04:55.898 --> 05:09.557 [SPEAKER_02]: And for me, even though Aras is the guy from Germany's represented Germany and wrestling, he's done all that stuff, will Flurry will be the star on that night, and it's something special to watch just how far he's pushed his career in the last two years alone. 05:10.137 --> 05:10.238 [SPEAKER_02]: Is 05:11.702 --> 05:32.155 [SPEAKER_01]: I suppose this could be a longer question and it could be a debate for a 45-minute bike guy, just like that, but talking to Will, I asked him about, oh, you know, you think you come back to Ireland and I think he gave me a 24-minute answer, and I'm that one question, but he was, look, just too long didn't read, he's like, I'm a big star and so back, yeah. 05:32.935 --> 05:40.059 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a big star in the Czech Republic now in Ireland not so much because like there's no media there apart from me in a couple of other lives. 05:40.279 --> 05:46.643 [SPEAKER_01]: But normally like mainstream media we have it over there and now I'm going to Berlin and I'm going to Germany and I'm seeing can I be a star there? 05:47.743 --> 05:48.624 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that what this is? 05:48.944 --> 06:00.150 [SPEAKER_01]: Like is this will very go into another market again after he's become a star and I suppose the whole market let's say I've after gun and now after gun extended market in Germany which has been done unbelievably well over the last couple of years. 06:00.170 --> 06:00.731 [SPEAKER_01]: Like is this 06:01.451 --> 06:07.743 [SPEAKER_01]: Even maybe, you know, you could argue the biggest market or could become the biggest market for out the gun with their biggest star on it. 06:09.502 --> 06:11.503 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it is the biggest market now. 06:11.543 --> 06:22.067 [SPEAKER_02]: You look at the TV, we've got in Germany, RTL, we're going on to rescue TV for some of the big tournaments, we've got huge numbers for the RTL plus streams. 06:22.267 --> 06:25.488 [SPEAKER_02]: The media is growing out there, the fan base is massive. 06:25.788 --> 06:29.470 [SPEAKER_02]: He is so unique as well, like the way he looks, the way he talks. 06:29.510 --> 06:32.111 [SPEAKER_02]: He's also a heavyweight champ, light heavyweight champ. 06:32.591 --> 06:35.352 [SPEAKER_02]: And you just look at his last seminar toast. 06:35.512 --> 06:36.793 [SPEAKER_02]: And again, listen to that sentence. 06:37.973 --> 06:43.437 [SPEAKER_02]: Traveling Europe doing seminar towards a not small ones, big gyms, fight school Hanover had him over. 06:43.477 --> 06:54.426 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been to Berlin, he's been to a few of the other, you know, main places, main cities and held big seminars, hundreds of people waiting to be taught by the light, every way. 06:54.926 --> 07:04.169 [SPEAKER_02]: the heavyweight champ, will flurry from Ireland, and I think it makes sense, Ultigon have recognised even with the deal that they've done with him to keep him in Ultigon. 07:04.529 --> 07:14.752 [SPEAKER_02]: He's got huge potential across all markets because he's raw, that's his word, but he's raw, he's really authentic, he can fight, he can talk, he can sell fights. 07:16.012 --> 07:24.438 [SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, putting him in this at the top, I tell you what, it's certainly when you look at some fighters and you think, oh, they could be stars and you put the money, you look at the ticket sales. 07:25.019 --> 07:27.340 [SPEAKER_02]: He can sell tickets around Europe as well. 07:27.861 --> 07:32.744 [SPEAKER_02]: And that is, you know, credit to him, credit to, you know, that what the opportunities he's taken. 07:33.305 --> 07:37.448 [SPEAKER_02]: And also what I'll take on a building and where they see him fit, it's great. 07:37.608 --> 07:40.070 [SPEAKER_02]: It is so, so good, but he has a tough test. 07:40.630 --> 07:41.391 [SPEAKER_02]: in Cassie Maras. 07:41.451 --> 07:42.912 [SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's talking about Flurry. 07:42.972 --> 07:46.314 [SPEAKER_02]: Cassie Maras, we're seeing very little media, very little talking. 07:46.334 --> 07:52.499 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a guy who's fought his whole life, wrestled right at the top, like the Bundesliga in Germany. 07:52.519 --> 07:56.002 [SPEAKER_02]: He represented Germany across Europe and in the World Championships. 07:56.302 --> 07:57.923 [SPEAKER_02]: And this is kind of his last chance. 07:58.144 --> 08:00.766 [SPEAKER_02]: Whirl Flurry did that name that is Rocky's story. 08:01.166 --> 08:05.910 [SPEAKER_02]: His chance to do something incredible for the last time, potentially, in his career. 08:05.930 --> 08:06.910 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, 08:10.573 --> 08:19.675 [SPEAKER_02]: an impressive media run coming into the thing based around him, but do not underestimate Cassie Maris, which I know Will Flurry is a like, I'm no reason. 08:19.855 --> 08:30.977 [SPEAKER_01]: No, 100% I like just lasting a way like he had offers from the UFC and PSL and he said to me Octagon blew him out of the water, so like, you know, that chip of the shoulder deck will always be there. 08:30.997 --> 08:38.638 [SPEAKER_01]: But Octagon are definitely supporting him and supporting him financially, but on Cassie Maris, I think the most interesting thing about Aras is five foot nine. 08:39.718 --> 08:53.371 [SPEAKER_01]: fight net heavywear and I said like I'm saying that to me because like we'll come up from middleware has been that the faster or more elusive guys completely change he's given he's he said this himself as well and in the interview please go much interview over and try to look up 08:55.616 --> 08:57.878 [SPEAKER_01]: But it's gonna have to be a little bit different from for this fight. 08:57.898 --> 08:59.840 [SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna have to play in on the outside a little bit. 09:00.140 --> 09:01.541 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, our ass is not a joke as well. 09:01.561 --> 09:03.903 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, you don't get to 38 years of age. 09:04.063 --> 09:05.745 [SPEAKER_01]: I've won your last three fights in a row. 09:05.765 --> 09:06.986 [SPEAKER_01]: Like a couple of fights before that. 09:07.266 --> 09:09.028 [SPEAKER_01]: He went five rounds at Mario Pinto. 09:09.068 --> 09:10.849 [SPEAKER_01]: Look what he's doing in the UFC at the moment. 09:10.869 --> 09:12.351 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's won the best of upcoming prospects. 09:12.791 --> 09:16.514 [SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, like this guy is not a joke at all. 09:16.554 --> 09:18.076 [SPEAKER_01]: And he makes like, 09:19.577 --> 09:26.642 [SPEAKER_01]: It's weird, a guy's so small, that's so good in so many areas like he's a really good shot down the middle and big, big, big power. 09:26.682 --> 09:30.524 [SPEAKER_01]: He probably doesn't have as many knockouts in his career as he should have for the power he does have. 09:30.824 --> 09:32.125 [SPEAKER_01]: But like he's really good in the clinch. 09:32.145 --> 09:35.668 [SPEAKER_01]: He was one of the fights where like he landed this lovely knee in the clinch. 09:35.688 --> 09:37.689 [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to pull this point head down towards him. 09:37.709 --> 09:41.511 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, only something that a small fighter fight not but heavyweight can do. 09:41.571 --> 09:43.373 [SPEAKER_01]: So this is a tough fight for Will Thorey. 09:44.172 --> 10:08.849 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... let's see if he can do something at heavier that he hasn't had to do before did the forecasameras as you said this is his last chance coming in and there's there's a look there's a tendency especially for my side been Irish now to concentrate on will flurry but this is a real lie fight in here isn't with a dangerous heavyweight like it i know he's five foot nine but he's a legit heavyweight as well isn't he for a guy like willus obviously still come up and still make his way in the way 10:09.950 --> 10:19.282 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, with that, and Aras is trained with Tadev, as well, so he's got somebody who knows well, who's felt well, who's been in there and can share that with him. 10:19.582 --> 10:25.430 [SPEAKER_02]: He's been training over in America as well, so he's like he's putting everything into this camp. 10:25.490 --> 10:26.671 [SPEAKER_02]: And as far as that puzzle, 10:27.312 --> 10:32.196 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, he can make the fight his style of fight very cleverly. 10:32.336 --> 10:34.378 [SPEAKER_02]: Like he has good cage control. 10:34.418 --> 10:37.361 [SPEAKER_02]: He can make it so that he makes that big cage feel extremely small. 10:37.401 --> 10:40.544 [SPEAKER_02]: So we can do what he needs to do is tough as nails. 10:40.864 --> 10:43.066 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the size of his head is crazy. 10:43.106 --> 10:45.388 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're not going to get, I don't believe. 10:45.968 --> 10:48.311 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to get him out there with one or two shots. 10:48.351 --> 10:53.816 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's you know This for me we've seen will do the spectacula knockout. 10:53.836 --> 10:58.581 [SPEAKER_02]: We've seen will or couple of spectacula knockouts if you can The Pavolanga one under Budai one. 10:58.921 --> 11:06.890 [SPEAKER_02]: We've seen him go you know dominant five rounds where he's been the hammer and Vemola was the nail But for this one, I think this is all about 11:07.530 --> 11:09.251 [SPEAKER_02]: will tapping into that fight IQ. 11:09.271 --> 11:15.435 [SPEAKER_02]: I think if we look at their two different styles, I believe will has more tools than Aras. 11:15.835 --> 11:24.041 [SPEAKER_02]: But Aras is very good at three, four things and he makes it into those three, four things that you've got to figure out in the cage. 11:24.081 --> 11:25.542 [SPEAKER_02]: His cage wrestling is great. 11:26.602 --> 11:28.884 [SPEAKER_02]: is way of closing the distance. 11:28.904 --> 11:37.591 [SPEAKER_02]: He's so used to being that small a guy that the range is something that he deals with every single time and he's got a number of different ways of doing that. 11:37.932 --> 11:39.153 [SPEAKER_02]: He also can go 5 rounds. 11:39.173 --> 11:43.917 [SPEAKER_02]: He won the LFL title, levels 5 round decision. 11:44.297 --> 11:46.779 [SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, you might think, I'll take him into deep water. 11:46.939 --> 11:48.020 [SPEAKER_02]: He's still going to be there. 11:48.460 --> 11:51.563 [SPEAKER_02]: So, for me, this is, you know, we've seen a lot of wheel flurry. 11:52.444 --> 11:53.885 [SPEAKER_02]: We know what RS will bring. 11:54.325 --> 12:09.872 [SPEAKER_02]: But for me, it's can will for his stay on stay clever for five rounds and I think RS is going to be in the best shape he's ever been and I think you know with the people he's got around him and training whether it's in America or whether it's in Germany or to other than the likes. 12:10.352 --> 12:11.893 [SPEAKER_02]: I think you know, he will be. 12:14.902 --> 12:29.696 [SPEAKER_02]: hell bent on causing nothing but nightmares for Will Florian and that's a dangerous guy, nothing to lose, last chance to lose, everything in it, full of confidence, getting those rounds with other top tier heavy weights, this is a great main event. 12:30.432 --> 12:31.893 [SPEAKER_01]: Corman event is a great fight as well. 12:31.913 --> 12:35.076 [SPEAKER_01]: The light, we're talking about Mattias Lagarsky against Gork and Axel. 12:35.677 --> 12:37.719 [SPEAKER_01]: Lagarsky is, he's one of those guys. 12:37.739 --> 12:38.900 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just delivers, doesn't he? 12:38.920 --> 12:42.523 [SPEAKER_01]: Like he's only last on Akhtaganist alone, and get that went to a decision. 12:42.543 --> 12:45.006 [SPEAKER_01]: He went five rounds with Attila Caramels. 12:45.026 --> 12:48.169 [SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't that last time out and wouldn't that lapsided a decision. 12:48.569 --> 12:51.132 [SPEAKER_01]: But he's like, Axel, you know, he's been around for a long time. 12:51.152 --> 12:51.992 [SPEAKER_01]: As well, he's like he's, 12:52.753 --> 13:16.893 [SPEAKER_01]: He's just as experienced, even more experienced in him, like fart, and a lot of different places brave, and you know, now coming over to Arkhan, going on this tree fight, win streak, tree finishes, tree forest round finishes, like I don't know where a lot of people predict in him to do what he did to dinner's frimpong last time out to be honest, like frimpong was on a great room before that, and obviously he's gone to bounce back on this car, but 13:17.353 --> 13:30.342 [SPEAKER_01]: This is a lot, you think with ligarsky, he's so good that it's going to be hard to maybe find Challengers, Farum or, you know, now that obviously doesn't get it has moved on, but this is a really lot of Challengers, it's a good lightweight title for Brian, isn't it? 13:31.140 --> 13:34.881 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and again, you can look at Axe's career and you can underestimate how good he is. 13:35.961 --> 13:44.404 [SPEAKER_02]: Some of those early fights he took again, he was a truck driver, so he would do the training while delivering things across Europe. 13:45.164 --> 13:48.365 [SPEAKER_02]: He would take fights on short notice just because they were there. 13:48.605 --> 13:53.086 [SPEAKER_02]: In the last two, three years though, he's been able to focus more and again, he's let that. 13:54.346 --> 14:02.492 [SPEAKER_02]: career of driving go and now he's a full-time fire and you're seeing that the quality that he's bringing now, the power is phenomenal. 14:02.532 --> 14:04.893 [SPEAKER_02]: It is a special type of punch that he throws. 14:05.434 --> 14:08.976 [SPEAKER_02]: The fight with Dennis Brimpunkt credit to Dennis is what it was a great fight. 14:09.116 --> 14:12.999 [SPEAKER_02]: It was on the edge all the way through until it wasn't. 14:13.259 --> 14:15.000 [SPEAKER_02]: But again, no one's done that to Dennis. 14:15.060 --> 14:17.001 [SPEAKER_02]: Nobody has not Dennis Brimpunkt out. 14:17.321 --> 14:19.543 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think Axel will be extremely confident. 14:19.563 --> 14:20.644 [SPEAKER_02]: The arena will be within 14:22.905 --> 14:41.235 [SPEAKER_02]: You look on this card, you've got Arash, you've got Cork, Mars, you've got Axel, you've got the less than all with that Turkish backing, they'll be out in force, and then you look at the Gerski, he is phenomenal everywhere, super strong, very experienced, but for me that the question mark right now in his career is the injuries. 14:41.855 --> 14:47.859 [SPEAKER_02]: He got a horrific back injury, wrestling the KSW light heavyweight champion, Raffel Hadetic. 14:48.380 --> 14:54.084 [SPEAKER_02]: I was messing around in the cage with him, elevated him, heretic turned it around and almost ended his careers. 14:54.224 --> 15:04.090 [SPEAKER_02]: It was a nasty spine injury that he had to get surgery on it, came back, then getting ready for the fight, which was supposed to be this fight in Stetsian and Poland, again got injured. 15:04.591 --> 15:05.591 [SPEAKER_02]: So for me, it's 15:06.832 --> 15:34.909 [SPEAKER_02]: there's a factor there and when you look at Axu who is like breezing through the opponents looking so good and better each fight and you look at the gurski in these small moments and again sometimes when you've watched this spot for so long you can see signs of you know the years starting to catch up so the question mark is with this hungry young dangerous knockout artist in front of him can the gurski rise to what he needs to be in this which is the best he's ever been inside 15:36.535 --> 15:49.559 [SPEAKER_01]: It's it's interesting because like after as you mentioned some of the light were fights like carmas It's fighting from punk was we mentioned going back in San Sin it's a what a fight that is Aryan Tappal as well on the card Just just we Irish guys. 15:49.639 --> 15:53.001 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's not miss small little problems with three Irish guys on the car 15:55.720 --> 16:05.054 [SPEAKER_01]: Big fight for Simone and as well though, you know, I always felt like Richie Simone and was a guy who was Who was perfect for octagon, right? 16:05.214 --> 16:09.441 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely perfect for octagon and he got the perfect face it 16:10.502 --> 16:12.384 [SPEAKER_01]: And it went perfectly for him at the start. 16:12.404 --> 16:17.608 [SPEAKER_01]: And the kind of just turned, didn't, you know, against Ivan Bushinger and he ended up losing in the turnaround. 16:17.628 --> 16:19.850 [SPEAKER_01]: But this is a big fight to bounce back for him as well. 16:20.150 --> 16:21.391 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, we'll for you. 16:21.451 --> 16:23.173 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, he's up there at the top of the top. 16:23.433 --> 16:24.794 [SPEAKER_01]: There's no bounce back for him at the moment. 16:25.074 --> 16:29.898 [SPEAKER_01]: But for the other two Irish guys, Frimpong and Smollon, this is a big night for the two of them, Brian, isn't it? 16:29.918 --> 16:33.001 [SPEAKER_02]: To bounce back because... Big night and bigger opponents as well. 16:33.081 --> 16:36.984 [SPEAKER_02]: Samsung did say for Frimpong, again coming off the loss to Machiav. 16:37.845 --> 16:59.118 [SPEAKER_02]: big star in Germany and fighting in the city which is now made his home Berlin, extremely good on the ground and I think it for him probably has evolved massively since the George St. fight with regards to his take down defence with regards to you know just just keeping the fight where he needs it to be but Samsung it's a can ask questions in there so that that's a huge one but for him perhaps 17:00.079 --> 17:01.500 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, the confidence is oozing. 17:01.520 --> 17:04.801 [SPEAKER_02]: We put these guys face to face a week ago or so. 17:05.941 --> 17:09.803 [SPEAKER_02]: And Frimpong is just the way he sells the fights, what he's bringing to the cage. 17:10.363 --> 17:13.684 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a very, very, very intriguing fight that one. 17:13.744 --> 17:16.985 [SPEAKER_02]: And then most inverses, small and motion is so strong. 17:17.305 --> 17:18.066 [SPEAKER_02]: That's one thing. 17:18.086 --> 17:20.927 [SPEAKER_02]: I watched the Samuel Barquan, and even though Barquad is moments, 17:21.447 --> 17:48.444 [SPEAKER_02]: the power and the strength and sometimes you know you look at small and then he's got you've got it everywhere you can fight you can box you you can but certainly his his jujitsu game is is where I think he's most dangerous and one of the kryptonites to that can be that that heavy wrestling can be that top control but I think small and got you know after that booking of fight I think he has a fire underneath him as well from what I've heard like will Flurry's talk to me about him 17:49.024 --> 17:50.245 [SPEAKER_02]: he's looking fantastic. 17:50.846 --> 17:54.049 [SPEAKER_02]: I think he's dialed in to make a statement in Germany again. 17:54.369 --> 17:58.073 [SPEAKER_02]: And I also think the fact there's three Irish flags flying in this tournament. 17:58.173 --> 17:59.534 [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's going to do all those boys. 17:59.875 --> 18:00.836 [SPEAKER_02]: The world is good. 18:01.396 --> 18:03.078 [SPEAKER_02]: They'll take over that hotel. 18:03.378 --> 18:04.379 [SPEAKER_02]: That is going to be there. 18:04.419 --> 18:05.741 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it might be in Berlin. 18:06.241 --> 18:07.823 [SPEAKER_02]: The fight as hotel will be, uh, 18:08.463 --> 18:13.765 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think it will belong to Ireland as we run into that fight card in the Uber arena on Saturday night. 18:13.985 --> 18:14.745 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking forward to seeing it. 18:14.785 --> 18:21.727 [SPEAKER_01]: Brian, last thing, Elina Dalaz and you mentioned her earlier on, but we have to mention every time we talk about a big German character, her and a character. 18:21.867 --> 18:24.488 [SPEAKER_01]: What a ceremony has become like the last performance as well. 18:24.948 --> 18:26.429 [SPEAKER_01]: Just absolutely stand out like her. 18:27.269 --> 18:37.654 [SPEAKER_01]: Two, the last two fights, I feel like she's gone to another level, being a Katrina Lenner by the decision, but to get to finish in the Tar Ground against Carolina Sobeck last time. 18:37.994 --> 18:43.257 [SPEAKER_01]: I think the biggest issue for the Lazan gone forward is getting people to fight or maybe it might be the issue. 18:44.257 --> 18:50.821 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, Julie Ariana watching bits and bits of things the first good game fighter, you would favor the Lazan, obviously, as a big favorite here, but 18:51.761 --> 19:03.382 [SPEAKER_01]: Tell us about like Delazlan and the star she has become, I know she's been featured on television over in Germany and things like that, but she is, she could be really the next big star, you know, male or female for Octagon couldn't she? 19:04.121 --> 19:14.073 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're looking across Europe and again, I always look at the coat and what she's done and how she's risen through the ranks with not just the looks but the what she does in the cage. 19:14.433 --> 19:19.259 [SPEAKER_02]: The last time's been professional for 14 months, that's crazy. 19:19.359 --> 19:23.744 [SPEAKER_02]: Five and I've been part of some of the biggest fight cards for it and some of the biggest 19:24.725 --> 19:34.387 [SPEAKER_02]: Arena's in Germany, been on the prime time national TV, free to air TV, as the co-main event on the Christian Eccolin in that fight where she would be Katharina Laina. 19:34.747 --> 19:36.967 [SPEAKER_02]: And then that last fight against Sobeck, it was sublime. 19:37.467 --> 19:50.249 [SPEAKER_02]: Sobeck is tough, she's experienced and she made it difficult, but just to watch the quality come through at that stage, to have five fights now and to be looking as good as she does 19:53.750 --> 19:54.891 [SPEAKER_02]: Saviness with the media. 19:55.371 --> 19:56.411 [SPEAKER_02]: She's got everything. 19:56.591 --> 20:00.113 [SPEAKER_02]: She's, she has, you know, the world at a feet right now. 20:00.133 --> 20:01.574 [SPEAKER_02]: And you talk about opponents. 20:01.874 --> 20:05.395 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the fight people were hoping for here was her versus small cova. 20:05.836 --> 20:12.298 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, small cova is the training partner with Lucissa Bova, who now owns both the flyway and the banton weight belt. 20:12.679 --> 20:13.839 [SPEAKER_02]: So she's kind of sitting back. 20:13.919 --> 20:17.521 [SPEAKER_02]: So it can't be for a title unless the last one fights Zabova. 20:18.641 --> 20:20.682 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think, you know, we look at 20:22.378 --> 20:25.039 [SPEAKER_02]: this card and we look at small cover star rising. 20:25.059 --> 20:26.940 [SPEAKER_02]: We look at the last land star rising. 20:27.181 --> 20:28.721 [SPEAKER_02]: They have to meet at some point. 20:29.302 --> 20:31.483 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think this is a tough test. 20:31.563 --> 20:38.867 [SPEAKER_02]: Ariana has come off the back of two winds where she's done the same to other potential delast lens in America. 20:38.887 --> 20:43.169 [SPEAKER_02]: She'd be a four and a rising prospect who had the loader height behind her on Ella Fayden. 20:43.189 --> 20:46.031 [SPEAKER_02]: She'd be a three and a four and a four on something else. 20:46.291 --> 20:47.892 [SPEAKER_02]: She's very good at 20:48.352 --> 20:53.978 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, and a lifelong martial artist, he's very good at spoiling the party, be it half the favor, the less than. 20:54.038 --> 20:58.703 [SPEAKER_02]: And if she gets through this one, I'd love to see her and smoke over. 20:59.023 --> 21:03.188 [SPEAKER_02]: That would be the fight that I think, you know, you wouldn't be able to miss. 21:03.708 --> 21:04.189 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's do it. 21:04.509 --> 21:06.411 [SPEAKER_01]: Brian, thank you very much for joining me today. 21:06.891 --> 21:07.392 [SPEAKER_01]: After god 90, 21:08.453 --> 21:12.876 [SPEAKER_01]: Berlin, June 20, but I get your tickets quick because it sounds like they're gone. 21:12.896 --> 21:14.216 [SPEAKER_01]: They're gone very, very fast. 21:14.577 --> 21:15.337 [SPEAKER_01]: Can't wait for it. 21:15.457 --> 21:17.919 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, one last one last question, Sean. 21:17.939 --> 21:18.299 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry. 21:18.459 --> 21:21.320 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you think we'll flurry things we've talked about enough in this podcast? 21:21.401 --> 21:22.441 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 21:22.721 --> 21:23.262 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 21:23.282 --> 21:23.602 [SPEAKER_01]: We only 21:23.982 --> 21:28.943 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, we all did like 60% on well, so might not be enough, it might not be enough for us. 21:28.983 --> 21:31.724 [SPEAKER_03]: Just check it out, just gave myself ready for my phone to go off at the end. 21:31.744 --> 21:32.565 [SPEAKER_03]: Hopefully, it's okay. 21:32.605 --> 21:33.245 [SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, it's okay. 21:33.345 --> 21:44.448 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're out of the record and it's just before Limerick played Tipperary, so hopefully, you know, Tipperary are already out of the other, and they sure after winning the last shot for that game, so that's, that's tough. 21:44.468 --> 21:47.229 [SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, whatever it's in this form, it only gives out to us too much. 21:47.769 --> 21:48.249 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Brian. 21:48.609 --> 21:49.410 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you everyone for watching. 21:49.530 --> 21:50.190 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll see you on next time. 21:50.490 --> 21:50.770 [SPEAKER_03]: Good luck.