[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the Shirtog Radio Network Preview for UFC Fight Night 279, COP vs. Horaguchi too, also known as UFC Vegas 119.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm your host, benduffyofshirtog.com.
[SPEAKER_01]: With me as usual is Keith Shillin, the executive producer of the Shirtog Radio Network.
[SPEAKER_01]: As of the time we are recording right now on Monday evening, it is less than 24 hours removed from the historic UFC freedom to 50 card.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, the recap afterwards, which speaking only for myself might be the most fun recap we've had in five plus years of doing this together.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the let down from that event in the words of the most famous song by Keith's all-time favorite band,
[SPEAKER_01]: Where do we go?
[SPEAKER_01]: Where do we go now, Keith?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for regular old UFC cards again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Talk to me, buddy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this, it's weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of times after a massive event, they'll have a week off.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm surprised we don't have a week off because the, you know, cop in Haraguchi, to the credit, it's a great fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they weren't gonna get a lot of press anyways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody is going to be taught.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the hard course we're going to talk about it big Marcel, you guys like that, you know, the hard course of the hard course.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he won't be to Thursday Friday when anybody's even looking at this card.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's going to be still.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're at Tuesday now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember, because obviously, you see it was one day later than it only is, you know, we're at Monday and, you know, soon by the time people watching this could be Tuesday,
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would still talk about Gagee and Trump and flyovers and the whole kids comments about Obama's wife and all this stuff like, um, and you know what?
[SPEAKER_00]: For a fight night, I don't hate this car.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's definitely, you know, not a lot of name value, like, you know, the top fight, and then they get kind of, you know, get shallow, but
[SPEAKER_00]: Competitive wise that there's a lot of competitiveness like a lot of action fights.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's some guys and they're not a huge prospect There's stuff, but there's definitely some fun matchups.
[SPEAKER_00]: I Keep it like a sea, but the problem is it's like I just won the lottery And then I just found like a scratch take it in my car.
[SPEAKER_00]: I noticed I went 50 bucks like yeah, that's cool But I'm not celebrating my 50th all the way and like I would have just you know one day earlier No, I come completely I couldn't have put it better like
[SPEAKER_01]: Outside of cop versus Horiguchi, what fight are you looking forward to most on this card?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a tough one.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's definitely a lot of fights that I like.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of, I mean, mostly, like relevant-wise, I don't know if it's really stands out to me, but if I'm just gonna be sure, actually, I'm gonna go with Rodriguez and Amel.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that fight's gonna be awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rodriguez in the meal is gonna be a fantastic fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Both of the men's fly-weight fights on the card, I think are solid.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, but Andre Lima is a big favorite over Kevin Borjas, but along that Cemento versus Mr. Post, oh, I think it's a really, really good fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mitch is one of the few knowingletters and I actually think it's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Mitch is one of the few knowingletters, and I actually think it's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it too much reason to,
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if I wasn't so tired and I knew you weren't so tired, I was going to do this whole historical thing where we compared this to the cards right after UFC 100 and I started looking them up and I'm like, dude, I don't I don't have the gas to add 20 minutes to the show to this what's funny is is we're both tired and and.
[SPEAKER_00]: like you said it's been 24 hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is 24 hours one of the cards started.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're, you know, we finished the card about 17 hours ago, the recap, about 17 hours ago, and we're back into focus on this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we also just talked to each other for another 15 minutes recapping our recap of the flight talk about this stuff we didn't talk about and how great this was and that was.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we had definitely hung over on EOC Freedom 250.
[SPEAKER_00]: But overall, I'm ready.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get into these fights.
[SPEAKER_01]: First up on the UFC Vegas 119 undercard is a matchup of debuting feather weights in Shane Collins and Otari Tenselovie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Collins, the 26-year-old Californian, is seven to know as a professional.
[SPEAKER_01]: As I said, this will be as UFC debut.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is the Uriofavers A1 combat featherweight champ.
[SPEAKER_01]: In case you don't know what that promotion is, it's been gradually growing, but it's the one Ethan you in came out of a couple months ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is become kind of like you would expect of something with your eye favors name on it, a bit of a hotbed for lower weight fighters coming out of California.
[SPEAKER_01]: At any rate, he is the outgoing A1 combat featherweight champ, and he will try to make his successfully UFC debut against Tanzalovie.
[SPEAKER_01]: 28 year old Georgian is 10 and one as a professional.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a
[SPEAKER_01]: Fury fighting championship standout.
[SPEAKER_01]: He also competed on Dana White's contender series back on season eight and twenty twenty four.
[SPEAKER_01]: He ended up losing to just CS Musasa, but here he is nonetheless.
[SPEAKER_01]: odds are pretty close on this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll flip it to you Keith.
[SPEAKER_01]: The favorite is minus one sixty.
[SPEAKER_01]: The underdog plus one forty.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who are they?
[SPEAKER_00]: Hands of love.
[SPEAKER_00]: Apologies.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's seeing his name wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to see he's the favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually Collins.
[SPEAKER_01]: Collins is minus 160, Tanselovie plus 140.
[SPEAKER_01]: You may kind of an off hand remark during the intro about how there are certain fights where you're not sure whether they're high end prospects, but it's gonna be a fun fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what this one screams to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Watching the recent tape of these guys, there are some similarities.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are both kind of,
[SPEAKER_01]: long-lived featherweight kickboxers.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the case of Tanzalovie, it's almost too easy to make the oh featherweight Georgian kickboxer comparison.
[SPEAKER_01]: They call them like a poor man's Gagechikaze, but they clearly come from the same basic school of striking.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do their best in an outfight where they're dictating the range and the pace.
[SPEAKER_01]: They get time, the time and space to get their kicks going.
[SPEAKER_01]: Collins is a bit of the same.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a little less of a polished product in my mind,
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's a little quicker.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we'll see when they get in the cage, but I think he's going to turn out to be a little taller and have a little better range and
[SPEAKER_01]: he's the moderate favorite here.
[SPEAKER_01]: This one feels like a pickup to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in this awkward position of saying, I think Collins is probably going to win, but I don't think he should be a particular favorite in this fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: So give me Collins, but again, this is a fun fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on these guys to prove they are actually factors in this division going forward, but this will be a fun way to get the night going.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, this this card and this this the fight that it just got announced a couple of days ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I obviously got buried between all the stuff we're going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: last week and I was sitting there thinking about I was looking at the comments of our recapture on people was talking about, you know, Abraham Lincoln and George Washington would have been proud of the UFC and all this stuff and I'm like, so what would this card be like?
[SPEAKER_00]: If you see the freedom, freedom 250 is George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, like
[SPEAKER_00]: What is this like, like, Chester Arthur, like, you know, like, so I'm sure you're sure he was a good president, but it's like William Henry Harrison, he's just like in between wasn't very long and everyone in kind of forgets.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's the one who, uh, you know, supposedly getting the money in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the one that got in the money during his face and died like you could be weeks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was the end of his face, sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's not a lot of films on both of these guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a lot of highlights, short fights at any quickly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Collins, I'll start with Collins.
[SPEAKER_00]: I looked very sore, I mean, pretty relaxed, striking.
[SPEAKER_00]: He cut angles well on his attacks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Works behind a busy jab, plus power.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll look for takedowns, but definitely not a wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a weak defense or wrestler, and he's not a submission threat at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tens of love.
[SPEAKER_00]: again, not a lot of film on this guy, um, I actually like it striking more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not more, but I think he, it's pretty dynamic.
[SPEAKER_00]: He, he, he, he fights out of both stances.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's fat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, you said that, um, Collins is, you think it's faster.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I, I think tens of, lovius is the fastest striker.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, nice straight right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good body work, good power, incredible high kick, good team kicks, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: great caffkicks.
[SPEAKER_00]: One negative is he definitely there's a mojtai style strike a restant's directly to front of his opponent and pillars, which you know I hate.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also will drop his hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not I haven't seen much of a ground game.
[SPEAKER_00]: What I've seen defensively a bad defensive wrestler, but if he ends up on top, me and Grant have found.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't have a lot of confidence in this fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm watching snippets of these guys film.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going the other way, nothing stands out to me, I call it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But at least 10s to the lobby.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I apologize.
[SPEAKER_01]: You nailed it, that time.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's striking, particularly his kicks look very good to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go to the opposite.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say he knocks calls out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take the upset.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take the kids to the lobby by first round knockout.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next up on the UFC fight night 279 prelimbs is another matchup of day viewing fighters.
[SPEAKER_01]: This one, a well-to-weight clash between Leon Chibazian and Levon Chokali.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chibazian, the 30-year-old Southern California Armenian-American older brother of Ed Ben Chibazian, 12 and 4 overall, while this will be his UFC debut, he fought on day-to-day in a white's contender series all the way back on season 3, which would be 2019, he lost
[SPEAKER_01]: had some mixed results back in California, but he is writing into this debut on a four-five win streak.
[SPEAKER_01]: Opposite him will be chocally.
[SPEAKER_01]: The 29-year-old Georgian is 14 and three with one no contest overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He appeared in Bellator numerous times kind of in between his regional career, but this will be his first cage appearance at all in over a year, and it's going to be right on the biggest stage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keith Chocally is actually your favorite, uh, care to take a guess at what the
[SPEAKER_00]: um minus 220.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's bigger than that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Levanchokely minus 310, Leon Chibazian plus 260.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, this fight is not great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to look and check kind of in between segments to make sure that this one was at 170, because Chibazian in particular has fought above that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the older and the bigger brother of Edmund Chibazian.
[SPEAKER_01]: In terms of just, he's taller,
[SPEAKER_01]: range here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can tell their brothers by looking at them, but their fight styles are pretty different.
[SPEAKER_01]: The interesting thing is that Leon Shabazian is not really blessed with any of that fluid fast-twitch athleticism that his brother has, but in some ways it almost helps him.
[SPEAKER_01]: His ceiling is much lower than Edmund Shabazian, but in some ways his floor is higher because he has gone out to be a
[SPEAKER_01]: kind of noodly submission specialist from the beginning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of he knows what he's good at, he knows what he can do at a added above average level, and he kind of sticks to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen them lose when just
[SPEAKER_01]: opponents have taken advantage of his kind of slowness and poor defensive habits on the feet, but he's not out there doing Edmund Shabazian things really trying to land people with head kicks in 15 seconds, trying to, trying to blitz some, he is looking to kind of hang around
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, honestly, hang around and find a time to key a team is upon it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's basically like, if you took Gerald Merchart's brain and stuck it into a member of the Shabazian family.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lvon Chokley, I never thought was a real standout guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even when he was in Belator, in Belator, at lightweight, he lost badly to some pretty good guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's another Georgian kickboxer.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I've seen him get out struck by smaller guys getting inside on them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen him get pushed around by guys that just wanted to close the distance and clinch and grind with him, try to wrestle him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's capable of putting on a very impressive offensive performance when his opponent gives him the time and space to work.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: I think both of these guys have a really low ceiling in the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chocolate is a massive favorite here, and this is one of those fights where, and there are a couple of them on this card, but this is one of the fights where I intend to go with the upset just because I think the fight should be a lot closer on the lines than it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: My comment says, tell me, it tells me the choke Lee is probably going to beat Shabazian.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is going to be quicker.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to hit harder, he has a more diverse striking arsenal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he'd have to get tired or make a mistake for Shabazian really to catch him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm leaning choke Lee, but he shouldn't be anywhere near a 3-1 favorite here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me choke Lee by decision.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think they're, I think they're both UFC talents.
[SPEAKER_00]: it's it's how far up like these guys gonna be main car guys I don't think so
[SPEAKER_00]: can they be mid-card guys, I think so, and that's pretty personal, I mean, the first thing to stand though, Schmazian is he's a big guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a little more athletic than you were saying, but yeah, definitely not as good as his brother.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a long-wraith striker.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's striking though, he doesn't have the best output.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is your traditional Moitista where he kind of stays ready for him as a opponent, but
[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a little bit of zip on his shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like his kicks, he kicks hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is defense is very hitable.
[SPEAKER_00]: He eats a lot of shots, he doesn't check late kicks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously he wants to get the fight to the ground, and he can wrestle, he's not a bad wrestler, but he's a bad defensive wrestler, but he doesn't mind getting the fight to the ground because he's a grappling specialist.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got 11 subs on this record.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can get subs in every position, including being put on his own back.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he wants, he does pretty well to get back up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chokely, I mean, the first thing to say on Chokely is the guys pretty jacked.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a very strong guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: likes to brawl big hooks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, throw's hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got good power.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's because he sits on his punches.
[SPEAKER_00]: He will get in close and he'll, he'll batter his opponent with knees inside.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can get the clinch and just use his strength.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can sneak in and take down.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't need better top control, though.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if he gets control hard, ground, and pound, though he's not a submission through it at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're very different.
[SPEAKER_00]: Shabazie wants to do a wall and
[SPEAKER_00]: fight while chocolate wants to be in the face throwing bombs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chocolate is a guy who'll get the fight to the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's looking for a ground while the Chimpanzee is looking for subs.
[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of like this fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think both guys are fairly decent.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am taking the massive favorite.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the odds are are off.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think if you tell me chocolate was like minus 180 it's here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say that he's yeah he's fought better organizations.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's fought better guys I'm taking chocolate.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you got to catch Chabazan's channel.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Chabazan's defense still worries me and and Chabazan hits hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see chocolate by Sekarachi.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Women's band and weights are up next on the UFC Vegas 119 undercard as Carl Hosa faces off against Luana Santos
[SPEAKER_01]: Rosa, the 31-year-old Brazilian, is 19 and seven overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's eight and four in the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: And after winning her first four fights in the Octagon, she has alternated losses and wins ever since.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's coming in off a win.
[SPEAKER_01]: She fought most recently a little under a year ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was last August at UFC on ESPN, Tyreversus Park, where she won a unanimous decision over Norocornal.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the pattern, she would be due for a loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: She will look to break that pattern, obviously, again, Santos.
[SPEAKER_01]: 26-year-old, also from Brazil, 10-and-2 overall, five-and-one in the UFC, and worth noting that she joined the UFC as a flyway, moved up to Bannon White, and she is two-and-o, since moving up.
[SPEAKER_01]: She fought at UFC on ESPN Roy Volver's as cop last December, where she won a unanimous decision over Melissa Crodon.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she will look to make its,
[SPEAKER_01]: three in a row, above flyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keith, your favorite is minus one fifteen underdog plus one hundred, closest line on the whole card.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's the favorite, do you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say how this is a favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are correct, Carl Jose minus one fifteen, Luana Santos plus one hundred.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me know what you think of this fight, who you think gets it done and what it looks like.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm paper, you could argue that this fight should be a lot higher, just from the divisional relevance.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you said, uh, what is Santa's is five and one in the UFC host is, you know, she's done at the better.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's eight and four, you know, it's not just, it's five and one and she'll be three, you know, at the end of wait if she, if she wins this one, this,
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a title eliminator, but the winner of this is probably second closest to a title shot after the main event.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you look at the people who host a loss to her full loss as you see, Sarah McMahon, Norma Duma, Irene Aldana, and Eileen Perez, like that being a bad group to lose to.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously they're not world champions, but they're like that next tier down.
[SPEAKER_00]: How seven, she's, she's, she's big for the way class, but she's, she's not a great athlete.
[SPEAKER_00]: She wants me to move forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's kind of flat-footed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Someone who's been in the UFC for a long time, her boxing was pretty raw.
[SPEAKER_00]: She does have good volume.
[SPEAKER_00]: She throws a lot of jabs.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of one-two combinations.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll show Wing and Overham, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: But she can really telegraph her power shots for a bigger woman.
[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't have the, like, much power.
[SPEAKER_00]: Punching power.
[SPEAKER_00]: She mixes punches and kicks together.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good calf kicks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, a lot of her wins.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, joss on that woods.
[SPEAKER_00]: when it's just hard kicking the calf.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she kicked, I really all done like a billion times in her lead leg and I end it very close flight.
[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't even clean up her striking defense.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's an issue.
[SPEAKER_00]: She can close distance, get in the clinch.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go back to like the bench career.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it was a long time ago, but she beat up bench career in the clinch.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's a good wrestler in my centuries.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's a weak defensive wrestler, but she is upon top.
[SPEAKER_00]: She looks for control for us, then she looks for Greta Pound.
[SPEAKER_00]: If she's taken down, though, she's served with a director of fee.
[SPEAKER_00]: Santos, Santos, she switched his stance a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Her striking similar to Jose, I think it needs a lot of work.
[SPEAKER_00]: She wants some Marcher opponent down, but she hates what she's pressured back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even like Julianna Miller was having a C-Sets pressure, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: My K-Sio-D-O-Beter just by pressureing her.
[SPEAKER_00]: She uses a lot of faints to set up her shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: She can be very right-hand, happy, like throwing the same over-hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: when she cleans it up, she keeps it tighter, she's much better, but she likes to kind of like dip and just throw over hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: She does have some good, you know, snap on a shot, she does generate power, because she sits on her punches, even though she's smaller, I actually think she's the bigger power puncher of the two.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's got a big kicking game, though she will throw without a set up, but I go back to like the Stephanie Agarfight, I mean, she was...
[SPEAKER_00]: kept doing that like Holly Holmes psychic door.
[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't check late kicks.
[SPEAKER_00]: She doesn't move her head much.
[SPEAKER_00]: She will close the distance and grind the clans.
[SPEAKER_00]: She has a judo background.
[SPEAKER_00]: She hit Maria Agapova with a great judo throw.
[SPEAKER_00]: But a lot of times she'll give her back going for a judo throw which I hate.
[SPEAKER_00]: She has to like love the traditional headlock which you know I
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty much garbage.
[SPEAKER_00]: If she gets to the fight to the ground, I mean, she has a BJA black belt, so that's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: She can shoot, take down for distance and see her overall wrestling that's solid.
[SPEAKER_00]: If she
[SPEAKER_00]: if she gets the fight down, she has no issue stalling on top.
[SPEAKER_00]: She does have some good control.
[SPEAKER_00]: She has a submission arm.
[SPEAKER_00]: She has five subs in her record.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she got to keep locking it's time to ever lose Boa.
[SPEAKER_00]: But she has Gast on the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: She has Gast a lot of many good stuff in there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is a very, I mean, I understand why it's a close fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not very high in either.
[SPEAKER_00]: I flip flopped on this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Hoser is, I'm giving her, I'm leaving Hoser's slightly better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everywhere, it's a kick smer.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just expect her to kick Santos a lot when they clench.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could see Santos going for a headlock and Hoser just countering an end to bun top, controlling on top, when it grow up, I'll give you Hoser by decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we approach this fight pretty similar, because when I saw the line and I might just thought of my initial impressions, I approached it figuring that I would end up favoring Santos in the slide-up set, just the younger fighter, the one who's probably still getting your game under her inner new way class, but I came to the same conclusion you did.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be pretty, and it's probably not not what the UFC kind of wishes, but I do think hosts a kind of outgrinder here, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had higher hopes for Carl, so when she arrived in the UFC, like that whole PRVT team was kind of the hot thing in the women's divisions for a couple of years there, and it fell apart.
[SPEAKER_01]: But she just never really developed, and I think a lot of it is down to what you said.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's big and physically strong for the division, but
[SPEAKER_01]: her striking kind of stalled in its development.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so now she's someone that does throw a good kick, but her hands are slow and her defensive fundamentals aren't great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a little bit of a piffy when I was watching some tape on her boxing, reminds me a little bit of Ronda Rousey's.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that sounds like I'm making fun of her and it's definitely not a compliment, but the
[SPEAKER_01]: the open workout footage of Rhonda that everybody made fun of and made memes about.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was her throwing proper combination.
[SPEAKER_01]: She clearly was school by somebody that knows how to box, but just it looked so awkward and slow.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a little bit of that to Hosa.
[SPEAKER_01]: She just...
[SPEAKER_01]: she looks like she's trying real hard when she boxes and it's not a great thing because like the great ones don't look like they're trying real hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: I lean host a here as well, but I don't think it's going to be a win that particularly does her stock a ton of good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think she just kind of shucks her off in the clinch a few times, denies some of those.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had log take downs, kick her in the leg, some, and probably wins two rounds out of three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Next up on the UFC Vegas 119 prelimbs, the second of five featherweight bouts on this card.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is Gaston Bologna's versus Michael Aswell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bolonios, the 33-year-old Californian, eight and five overall, two and two, since joining the UFC as a true homegrown talent from Belotor, without looking right now, I believe his entire career prior to the UFC from his pro debut was in Belotor.
[SPEAKER_01]: But at any rate, he's coming in off a loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: He fought most recently a little over a year ago at UFC on ESPN, San Hagen vs. Figurado, where he got choked all the way to sleep in the second round that quangli.
[SPEAKER_01]: He will look to bounce back from that here against as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: 25 year old Houstonian is 11 and 4 overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is 1 and 2 since joining the UFC as a veteran of season 8 of Dana White's contender series.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did lose on the contender series, but also as the former Fury FC Featherweight champ.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is coming in off a loss as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: He fought most recently back in March at UFC fight night of low-air versus Murphy, where he dropped a unanimous decision to Luke Riley.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, 2.
[SPEAKER_01]: up and coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, further way it's looking to bounce back from a loss here, Keith, as well as your favorite, take a guess of what the line is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I could call you the one of these guys up and coming, but, well, he's got to be at least a two-to-one favorite if you said that, I'll say like right at minus two-ten.
[SPEAKER_01]: They must be seeing something we're not, because as much of a Houston homer as I am, I would not have put Michael as well as minus 400.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cast him along, you have some plus 30 to let him in the other way, he's not good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I understand that, but what is Michael as well?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a deserve.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a
[SPEAKER_00]: A line that big, listen, I thought this fight was gonna be much closer.
[SPEAKER_00]: I fast-fasting this one, like I wasn't, these little two guys are the least interested in the card.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was fast-fasting this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: A.O.K.
[SPEAKER_01]: with me, uh, I'm going to take as well by this by decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Bologna is a 33.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is what he is at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what he is was never even the fourth or fifth best.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, in Bellator, where as as well, he's super young man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I, I, I looked at this thing today.
[SPEAKER_01]: The first event I ever covered live for Shardog was a fury card here in May of 2018.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, uh,
[SPEAKER_01]: That was, as well as amateur debut was that night.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was 17 years old.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still just 25.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has certain tools.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm waiting for him to turn the corner.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's turned the corner yet, but I do favor him to be polonios, give me as well by decision.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to take Melonius just because of the odds.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not very either on the feet as well as the volume.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Melonius actually is the more technical striker.
[SPEAKER_00]: Both are pretty bad on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the reason why I was leading as well is simply just because of his age.
[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely don't think this bigger favor, but it gives me, I'm going to say it's close.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say that's one of my sports decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: Men's flyweights are up next at UFC Fight Night 279 as Alon Nassimento and Mitroposo try once again to make this thing happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nassimento, 34-year-old Brazilian, is 22 and 6 overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's 4 and 1 since joining the UFC out of the first season of Dana White's Contender Series Brazil.
[SPEAKER_01]: He lost his UFC debut to to gear along back off ever since then.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is perfect having one for and a row over pretty impressive competition in Jake Hadley, Carlos Hernandez, Jiffel Filio, and Cody Dernan.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the good news.
[SPEAKER_01]: The bad news for him is that it's taken him five years to rack up those four fights, shelf time and injuries have been the order of the day for Nassie Menso.
[SPEAKER_01]: However, it is not his fault that his first matchup with Reposo was canceled.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that in a sec.
[SPEAKER_01]: Reposo.
[SPEAKER_01]: 27 year old from fall River Massachusetts, 10 and 3 overall, 1 and 2 since joining the UFC as a veteran of season 5 of Dana White's contender series.
[SPEAKER_01]: He lost on the contender series to Jake Hadley.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, went back to New England, one four straight and since joining the UFC,
[SPEAKER_01]: about two years ago, he is two and one.
[SPEAKER_01]: He lost his first two fights by split decision, both of them, to Andre Lima and Sumu Darji, before running into Azad Maksum at UFC 321 last October.
[SPEAKER_01]: He picked up the decision over Maksum, getting him his first UFC win.
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll be looking for his second UFC win here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keith and I already previewed this.
[SPEAKER_01]: These two were supposed to fight back in April.
[SPEAKER_01]: Reposo dropped out, not just on fight night,
[SPEAKER_01]: like after the card started.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keith has anything really changed for you since we preview this?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me either.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will give you the line here because interestingly, it has narrowed a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: As of right now, Nassimento is minus 200, Reposo plus 170.
[SPEAKER_01]: The line was actually a little wider back in April and it's narrower or now, despite the fact that Reposo, the underdog is the one that pulled out of the first meeting.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, sit tight, watch this old grainy footage and we'll
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, break this one down for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you in that I thought Reposa was better than his record even going into the maximum fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: He looked great there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is pretty good for a meeting of two guys who were signed after losing on the contender series.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me how you think this fight plays out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Mitchell Posa from Florida Mass, please, for I use to live.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that's like the,
[SPEAKER_00]: the bingo card.
[SPEAKER_00]: So get that one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know on the on the recap show, I mentioned that I like watching the Netflix monster series.
[SPEAKER_00]: The next person that doing is full river's own Lizzy board in, which I've been to the Lizzy board in house and everything where the famous murders happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: So check that out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't just play the softhold time at, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: She actually played in the Lizzie boarding classic and I was like Should we so having a name like a softball told it named after like a famous murderer I know she was like not found guilty, but I'm like like how do you know they have like the OJ Simpson Evidational like was gone So so you're saying to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You went up to the plate and took her cuts, huh?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah Everyone got 51 51 strikes
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's let's let's stop by this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is actually, you know, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a flyway fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're always, you know, fun ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: If obviously, that's the mental makes way.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's such a massive flyway, uh, longing and lengthy guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is a kickbox on the feet pretty technical.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I'd say he has plus power for the division.
[SPEAKER_00]: Big kick and game kicks to all areas of the body.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the best part of his game.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of calf kicks.
[SPEAKER_00]: He, he does have,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm some defensive issue where he stands very tall with chin high in and some of that has just been such a big guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also pulls head straight back and he's been clipped in the past because of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He will use the size well in the clinch or close the distance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get in there, stop framing, salending elbows, lens knee, super easy because of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't get enough credit for how good an offensive wrestler he is.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at shooting when it's upon it tries to.
[SPEAKER_00]: get past his range and close the distance.
[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to be all the way out or he's used that crash on him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's wrestling.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is a weaker defensive wrestler but he's a super slick grappler.
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets on top nice top control.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't mind stalling.
[SPEAKER_00]: He'll hold you down for long period of time.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if you scramble, he uses those long ways.
[SPEAKER_00]: He gets you back, lock in body, body triangles.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's really like super flexible.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he has 16 submission wins.
[SPEAKER_00]: can get some missions from all here is every position he's if you apologize back his act he's more of a guy's actually don't mind him on his back is you know he's hips are constantly moving look for his subs again trying to go his long way so if I heal hogs and leg locks reposso
[SPEAKER_00]: I honestly think he might be the best nailing on fighter, you know, born fighter in the UFC.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how about here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Brazilian's in with Glevet Cher, I mean, like guys born here and knowing that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He moves a lot, switch a stance a lot, he's got to change in angles.
[SPEAKER_00]: He needs better output, especially for a flyweight.
[SPEAKER_00]: He will set up shots with faints.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did struggle to get inside with superjargy and now he's got another guy that's that's taller and bigger than them But he has a Chris jab good tight box in accurate when he lets his hand goes You know, he has confidence.
[SPEAKER_00]: I should say more we have confidence in his hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has good combinations got a good overhand right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I say plus plus power And like he could clunk that cement to because the way Nessman pulls his history back.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has a classic high guard defense Laces slipped and rip
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he, he loves a slip and rep than throw overhand right like a power right.
[SPEAKER_00]: He works to body well.
[SPEAKER_00]: He, he, he doesn't check lay kicks though.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a solid rest of though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he can, he can wrestle.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did abandon his wrestling against Andre Lima.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's going to want to wrestle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nassimento.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if he does, he's got good entries.
[SPEAKER_00]: If he gets to the fight the ground, he doesn't need to improve his overall top control.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you try to take him down, he's shot stock, he's strong, so he's pretty solid, take down the fence.
[SPEAKER_00]: If when he has been taken out, he does pretty well, they get back to his feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has three submission wins, but I'd be really surprised if he's so snass mental.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's got a good cardio, like you know.
[SPEAKER_00]: If we get a war, the post is not going to get out, and that's meant to be one more likely to get out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's the best part of the entire card.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the line might be a little too big.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like that semester closer to, I definitely think he should be the favorite, but I maybe like closer to minus 160, I think it would make a little bit of sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am leaning towards Ness Mentor, even though I'm a big reposal fan, he's bigger, he is better, I'll put on the feet, he's a better, you know, threat on the ground in the sense of finishing the fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like reposal a lot, I say, like that's so, I wanna say that's about, I would say it's closer than people expect, but give me Ness Mentor by decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel very similarly to how you do about this one, obviously, always take it with a grain of salt when fighters themselves, or an, let's start talking about intangibles.
[SPEAKER_01]: But going back and watching Reposos fight with Azat Maxim, you can almost see him.
[SPEAKER_01]: start to realize in real time that he is a UFC level fighter and can beat UFC level guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's going in there against a highly touted prospect.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Max zoom was like minus 350 or something in that fight, so even a substantially wider line than we have here, Max zoom had missed weight, like he visibly, like bigger than the Reposo.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Max zoom probably won the first round, and Reposo just started rolling down hill on him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And by the end of the fight, like you've got,
[SPEAKER_01]: Maximum just basically cleaning the fence in terror, you know, to the point that he got deducted a point for repeated fence grabs, as Reposo was just having his way with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't get that out of my mind, because here he's going against another guy who's more highly touted, more established, more physically imposing, has a propensity for missing weights.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going with the upset here.
[SPEAKER_01]: If the best version of Nazi memento shows up, he is probably more physically talented and more skilled overall, but again, I just...
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we might realize that the maximum fight last fall was Mr. Pozo turning a corner.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I completely agree with you that he's the best New England born fighter in the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, I wonder what it's like.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if at the gym,
[SPEAKER_01]: he just kind of bullies and abuses you're going to cast or like the old stories you get about like pulver and he's just kind of bullying like Tim Silvia and Ben Rothwell and Militich.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to repose it was just like like just wrecking you're going to cast her on training.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway,
[SPEAKER_01]: similar in general terms to the way he beat maximum.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like the exact fight won't play out the same way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nasty Menso is a very different fighter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Repose is going to have to thread the needle a different way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Going to the ground with Nasty Menso, especially in the first half of the fight, very bad idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Reposo was capable of taking care of himself on the ground, but Nesimato was elite on the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if Reposo throws enough volume, I think he can hold his own on the feet with Nesimato.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I expect him to build from strength to strength as the fight goes along, whereas Nesimato, depending on how his weight cut goes, may either just kind of hold steady or may start to wear out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me Mitroposo to pick up yet another big upset win by winning rounds two and three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Women's Band-Aumwades take the cage next at UFC Vegas 119 as B. Amisquita and Melissa Mullin Squareoff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mesquita, the 35-year-old Brazilian, is seven and a no as a professional.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's two and a no since joining the UFC out of LFA.
[SPEAKER_01]: She is coming in off a win, obviously, as she's undefeated.
[SPEAKER_01]: She tapped out months her out-rendone back in March at UFC, fight night, emit versus Vallejoz.
[SPEAKER_01]: She'll look to make it three in a row to start her UFC run against Mullins.
[SPEAKER_01]: 34-year-old English woman is seven and two overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: She is two and two in the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's coming in off a loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been almost exactly a year since she fought.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was June 21st of last year where she dropped a unanimous decision to Daria Zelizniakova.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keith Mousquita is your favorite here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take a guess what the line is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she's going to be pretty big, like minus 440 or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were on the right track.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ms. Kita is the biggest favorite on the card.
[SPEAKER_01]: She is minus 600.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mullins plus 450.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Kita, at this point, I have said about two fights, and you've said about at least one fight that you were tempted to go with the underdog, just because you didn't think the favorite should have been that big of a favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's where I step out on a limb.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am not, I am not sold on either of these women,
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think BMSGD should be a minus 600 favorite over anybody in the UFC, not over Mullins, not over the, probably not even over the two women Mullins is beaten.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, we know we're getting with Ms. Gita, she's one of the greatest grapplers in history.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's, I have to get out of scratch paper, but she might be on the Mount Rushmore of female grapplers.
[SPEAKER_01]: But she is, yeah, she's, she's way, way up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: But,
[SPEAKER_01]: At the UFC level, she's one of the shortest squottest women in the man-in-weight division.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like five foot two.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's not terribly athletic.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she's reasonably nimble, and obviously she's incredibly fluid and fast moving on the ground, but on the on the feet, she is
[SPEAKER_01]: a boxer that doesn't throw in combination very well, doesn't have good reach, makes her reach worse by not throwing straight shots.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she is that classic archetype of the incredible grappler who is going to live and die by her ability to bring the fight to the ground in the time place and position of her choosing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thus far, she's seven and no, but her two wins in the UFC
[SPEAKER_01]: both of whom are among the lowest level people in the division, and Alexieva, at least, actually gave her a little bit of trouble early on, just Miss Hita, found herself running into a woman that was much physically larger than her, had a judo background, and I she ended up winning the fight, but I haven't seen anything to really give me a ton of confidence at her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mullins at the very least is going to be another one that she is way bigger than mosquito.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mullins is going to be one of the larger women in the division.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mullins is going to, she's going to know what she needs to do in this fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: She needs to dictate the distance.
[SPEAKER_01]: If mosquito gets inside on her, she needs to sugar off immediately, not entertain the clench and get back to work, and she needs to stay off the fence.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: whether she is going to have the presence of mind or the physical and tactical wear with all to do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if I were a bedding man, I'd be hammering it at plus 450 because I just don't trust BMSG to win this fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're at home and you're putting our picks into your bedding spreadsheet, your handy cap and you shit, understand that I think yeah, BMS Gita probably should be favored in this fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking mollins on general principle, because I think the right line for this fight would be around minus 170 plus 140.
[SPEAKER_01]: Give me Melissa Mollins to stay up right for two rounds out of three, and when the decision over BMS Gita and the hype will end like a little tiny five foot two balloon flying around the room.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, huge.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm excited for this fight now, I didn't mean to, I still think it sucks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she's very, I mean, obviously she's very raw on the feet, but she is improving and she hurt, rundown with the right hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: She has that little, like, little, like, that bonacle thing where she, the threat of the takedown will open up opportunities with her hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: But her, I mean, it's right, it's simply to set up or take down.
[SPEAKER_00]: She'll look for takedowns.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is she isn't a wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: She likes just to reach for snap singles, snatch singles.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're not good, but if she gets the fight to the government, she's an absolute master of the ground, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's obviously, you talked about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: a highly decorated grappler business.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's super slick back days, loves backpacking your opponents.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously a submission artist has five stars on our record.
[SPEAKER_00]: It has incredible crowd of pound.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mullins most strike any much better.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's pretty where are the feet too.
[SPEAKER_00]: She, her hands are slow, throws mostly single strikes.
[SPEAKER_00]: She loads up a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Her best strike is her kind of right hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe she can catch mosquito coming in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to that she does have some power her deepest striking is bad I mean she keeps her head on the center line mostly pulling a head straight back She's a lot of shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was hurt to the body by Norracanol
[SPEAKER_00]: her striking is usually to close the distance and get her own grappling.
[SPEAKER_00]: She wants to get the fight to the ground, but she's also a bad wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: She'll shoot the take downs, but with bad technique, that would be really bad for her.
[SPEAKER_00]: She shoots a take down and gets stuck on a need to mosquito.
[SPEAKER_00]: She probably have better, like, clean the grappler, which she gets bylocked take downs.
[SPEAKER_00]: If she gets the fight to the ground, she does the Vance position on the ground, busy ground and pound.
[SPEAKER_00]: She has some slick backtakes herself, not a submission threat though,
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but she can wrestle a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: She won't get out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I can see what you're saying because be as striking as so bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think her wrestling is that good.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what malls usually wants to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a really bad style of signature or she almost has to be perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Malls likes to grapple with mosquitoes just like this, both everybody on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: I expect mosquitoes to get mulled down or just create a scramble.
[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think she's subject quick.
[SPEAKER_00]: Give me a mosquito before I start submission.
[SPEAKER_01]: Further way, throughout next at UFC Vegas 119, as Melsik Bagdazarian, welcomes Murdazali Magomedov to the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bagdazarian, the 34-year-old Californian, is 8 and 3 overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is 3 and 2, since joining the UFC out of season 5 of Dana White's contender series.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is coming in off the loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: He fought most recently over a year ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was at UFC fight nights at Hudo versus Song, where he got knocked out late in the first round by Jean Silva.
[SPEAKER_01]: He will look to bounce back from that,
[SPEAKER_01]: 26 year old from Kyrgyzstan is a perfect 10 and no as a professional.
[SPEAKER_01]: He fought on Dana White's contender series back in September knocking out Brian's Ercher in the first round.
[SPEAKER_01]: So looking to go 11.0 as a pro, make a successful UFC debut.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is favorite to do so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keith, take a guess at what the line is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's got to be over minus two.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say like, yeah, I think he's pretty big.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say like minus 330.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is minus 300.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bagdizarre in plus 250.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am cautiously optimistic about Mega Man of.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when I went in and actually watched his tape, like, I was actually kind of impressed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he can probably take Bagdizarre in a straight kickboxing match.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, back to Zaryan hits like a truck, but he's shown some defensive liabilities already.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to give up a ton of reach, and I'm starting to get a little worried about back to Zaryan's durability.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I would probably lean.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mega made off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even if he had no ground game at all, but instead, I think he's a good wrestling grappler too.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a well-rounded fighter.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still just 26-year-old, 26-year-old, good size for the division, like already well-rounded skills.
[SPEAKER_01]: I cautiously like him as a prospect.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, same as you, I'm really, really slow to declare anybody immediately a future top 10 fighter in a division like 145, but it wouldn't shock me at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: if three or four years from now he was not going on that door and I think he he beats up back to sorry pretty bad here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see he probably gives as well as he takes on the feet for most of the first round takes back to his ironing down easy late in the first round maybe early in the second when he feels like it gets a submission in the second round.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, bags are in, I mean, we know we got it this way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, this is very good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, K-Boxer, I know he's one rural championship, and all that, but everybody's one rural championship, K-Boxing, it's like, it's like the easiest thing to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like being a polymer.
[SPEAKER_00]: like where you pretend to be like good at a craft like every homeowner can do their own homeowner like you don't need to pay for like I've never paid for a polymer like that's why I feel like our meeting boxes like everybody's a world champion you know all of the all the metal of honor winners and first responders at UFC freedom 250 last night got a kickboxing world championship just like you're kind of like grab bag thank you gift for showing up you know
[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously he's got good volume of the feed, very fast hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's always been good at picking up his opponents timing.
[SPEAKER_00]: His left hand is really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: He hits very hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know I've said this before.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, before he came to the UFC, he wanted to forefight what he's sure he was longest fight with 32 seconds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Big kicking game.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has some great high kick chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is, is he's a terrible offensive wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's an even worse defensive wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, his grab one is so bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you have to worry about his channel, I mean he was recently knocked out by Gene Sopher.
[SPEAKER_00]: Back and made off, I think what I've seen when he fights out of both dances, very strong, physically strong guy, he's pretty fast on the feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can overthrow his strikes, which is concerning if he loads up and tries to connect the beggar and kill even, open it, to get cracked.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if he lands, he's got a good power, he likes flying these, he likes to close the distance, work in the clinch, he can get take down, he's very good at winning scramble, if taking down himself, he's got a good getup game and he's got five subs on his record.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, back to sorry, I mean, he is a really good striker, but it's grappling you so bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: I pick anybody that can wrestle to beat him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Magnet of he isn't as dynamic or a wrestler that many people would expect for the, you know, guy with the name Macdomet of, but I mean, he could still easily out wrestle back to Siren.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Magnet, he's going to take him down.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to sum him.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's really understand the joy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does he pick, does he some of the first round of the second round?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'll see he sums him the second round.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is my locker tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Men's flyweights take the cage next at UFC Vegas 119 as Andre Lima, squares off against Kevin Borjas.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lima, the 27-year-old Brazilian, is a perfect 11-in-one, as a professional.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a perfect 4-in-0, since joining the UFC out of season 7 of Dana White's Contenders series.
[SPEAKER_01]: He fought most recently a little over a year ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was last March at UFC Fight Night, the Torivers of the Leads A, where he tapped out Daniel Barras in the...
[SPEAKER_01]: third round.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he'll look to build on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Go 12 will know as a pro against Borhass, who is trying to write the ship here.
[SPEAKER_01]: 28 year old Peruvian is 10 and 5 overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is 1 and 4, since joining the UFC out of the very same season of Dana White's contender series.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's on a two-fight losing streak.
[SPEAKER_01]: And has already fought once this year.
[SPEAKER_01]: He fought Emanol Rodriguez back in February at UFC fight night Marineovers is Kavanaugh getting knocked out in the second round.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go ahead and spit out the odds here because I screwed up.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is actually the biggest line on the card.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lima's minus 650 borhouse plus 475.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if Lima is a perfect flyway prospect, but he is a good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: he's getting a little bit of additional hype because he has the kind of infamy from the bite fight in his UFC debut and then obviously being undefeated.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he is, I mean, he is legit and exciting fighter.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a powerful athletic explosive little burly flyweight pretty well rounded and
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just cruising up the ranks.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's thus far balancing being a very aggressive offensive fighter with being responsible enough defensively to get the job done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not saying the exact skill set is the same, but it's the same sort of line that people like Brandon Royville and Josh Van told all the way to the top.
[SPEAKER_01]: It almost doesn't matter here because just Borhas isn't it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel bad because Borhas is also reliably exciting.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just the definition of a kind of mid-level Peruvian guy in that, and I've said this on the show for several years now, Peru is kind of what South Korea was 15 years ago, where it's these psychopathically aggressive offensive fighters that love a brawl, love a scramble, and they will tend to kind of ride that style as far as they can.
[SPEAKER_01]: Borehouse doesn't have the hand speed or the chin to carry them through the kind of fights you wants to have in the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: It worked for him in Peru.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's gotten them busted up badly and pretty much all as UFC fights and it's going to here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lima probably could take Borehouse down and tap him out, but I think these guys are going to start.
[SPEAKER_01]: swinging early and often.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Lima has just enough of that box, the brawl or brawl the boxer that I think he'll exchange with Borhoz for a few minutes and then just start sniping.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Lima Knox Borhoz out in the first round.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I understand that Lima should be a big fan.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he should be minus 650 whatever you said.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like 350 that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: If he was 11 in one and didn't have a tattoo of a bite mark under his arm, the line would be half what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that one loss would have changed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And boss, the problem is, boss is very consistent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like some flights, he's pretty good, some flights he's not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's, you're never going to get like sometimes he's a volume striker, but his last fight he was very low.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he usually wants to press the pace, um, that's why he had to be in pressure back against Joshua Van again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, it'll also ease really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he backs straight up to the cage in his last fight, which was very concerning, um, especially going to get someone like Lima.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but then he showed composure and an interim territory against Rodriguez and beat him up.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, his hands are, you know, he's got fast hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: They snap his accurate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he keeps everything short and tight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he worked hard a good job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice slippery hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he destroyed Lee's very redrious with his right hand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the reason why I'd be concerned about him being this big at Undoing is he has some power, but he can crack a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he likes stepping these, the problem is his defense.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's willing to eat a shot to land a big counter.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can also overthrow his shots who's open to be countered, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: He struggles with range.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's struggling to get inside against Stuma dodgy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's up in the late kicks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alexander Costa just basically destroyed him with just late kicks.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a weak offensive wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: He watched you and take those against Stuma dodgy, but he was doing it without a set up.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a bad defensive wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also needs to improve his get-up game if he gets taken down.
[SPEAKER_00]: His cardio has been inconsistent.
[SPEAKER_00]: sometimes it's great but then he gasped out his last fight and it was a low output fight so on the other hand I mean Lima I mean this kid is solid he's a large guy for the way class he's got good volume on the feet but it's not like it's not a berserker it's it's a good consistent pace
[SPEAKER_00]: but he sees very relaxed and poised his kickboxer.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does both pressure and cut off his enemy's escapes.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has to stand that.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got good boxing.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants to be the one moving forward.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why he struggled a little bit against Egor Savrino.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's accurate.
[SPEAKER_00]: He throws a really good overhand right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he hits hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he sits on his punches and generates the power.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good kicking game, good late kicks from both stances.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he also checks late kicks, which is such a rare, uh, attribute, especially for a young guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he will back straight up towards the cage.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: probably boss best chances to get him back up with the discrack him.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he can back up with the shoe or take down.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a solid rest.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good top patrol.
[SPEAKER_00]: He works for a better position than ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got busy ground up on.
[SPEAKER_00]: He isn't bad defense a rest would be pops up very, very quickly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I said before, like if you don't come for a wrestling background, just focus on one either.
[SPEAKER_00]: Stop in the initial take down and get enough quickly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And ELE says they get enough quickly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't, he's not a submission threat, but he did get a sub in his last fight, and he's got a good career.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, Buss is a little bit of a wild card because he's so inconsistent, but lean on the enemy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just playing good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's obviously better than Buss everywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's why he's such a big favorite.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he stiles on him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was a dominant decision when chemiling by decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: We head back to the Featherweight Division at UFC Fight Night 279 as Hyderamil and Christian Rodriguez meet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Amil, the 36 year old Californian, is 11 and 2 overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's 3 and 2 since joining the UFC out of season 7 of Dana White's contender series.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the good news.
[SPEAKER_01]: The bad news is that his two losses were in his last two appearances.
[SPEAKER_01]: He, frankly, showed up to relatively little fanfare in the UFC about three years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: probably best known for being the head striking coach for Gilbert Melendez, but kind of took the UFC by storm, pun fully intended, before running into back-to-back losses at the hands of Jose Delgado and Jamal Emersion as last two fights.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Emers fight was last November at UFC fight night bomb theme versus Brown, so Amel has been on the shelf ever since looking to turn around the first losing streak of his career now against Rodriguez.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rodriguez 28 year old out of Milwaukee, 12 and 4 overall, five and four since joining the UFC as a veteran of season five of Dana White's contender series.
[SPEAKER_01]: He won on the contender series wasn't immediately signed, but joined the UFC shortly thereafter and sort of settled in as the designated spoiler to hyped prospects.
[SPEAKER_01]: handed Royal Roses Junior, Cameron Simon, Isaac Delgarion, Austin, Bashy, all their first losses in the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's frankly kind of wild.
[SPEAKER_01]: How many prospects the guy has derailed.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's on a two-fight losing streak himself at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Combinating in his split decision loss to Andre Feely, last August at UFC fight night Delete versus Hernandez.
[SPEAKER_01]: So two gentlemen here, looking to get back in the win column on the main card, your favorite is minus 170, underdog plus 145, who are they?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a tough one.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, Mill is the favorite.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's actually Rodriguez.
[SPEAKER_00]: Christian Rodriguez is minus 170.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a meal plus two.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he did the upset man, so that's not good for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is kind of interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, hydro meal, he's one of the guys that when he debuted in the UFC,
[SPEAKER_01]: somebody from his camp like actually came after me for my breakdown of them, you know, ahead of his UFC debut.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was right in that I underestimated a meal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought was, yeah, a meal is definitely a quality striker, but he's also like a 33, 34 year old guy with nine career fights, just making his UFC debut now.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a limited window of time in which he can do what he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even at three and two in the UFC, he's pan out better than I expected.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen the crack show, but the first, his first two opponents in the UFC in particular, he really just kind of blitzed.
[SPEAKER_01]: His speed, his accuracy, his power, he really did just look like a quality moly tycoge, giving lessons to people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Since then, Jose Delgado caught him blasted them early, whether that's just, hey, he got caught, it's something that could happen to anybody,
[SPEAKER_01]: a result of a meal being like 35 and having a lifetime of striking behind them.
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even more concerning is how we lost the Jamal Emers because things were pretty well matched on the feed, but Emers took him down pretty easily in the second and third rounds and that was the fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to see a meal, this short compact quick twitch striker.
[SPEAKER_01]: getting taken down my double legs from a guy like six inches tall in them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like changing levels and smoothly taking him down was concerning and Embers really kind of menaced him when he was on top.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was trying for chokes.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was pelting him with ground impound.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the ways to beat Hyderomeal have been kind of laid out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: The question is whether Rodriguez can follow him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rodriguez is
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, wrestler and grappler.
[SPEAKER_01]: He I don't think he's Jamal Embers level at that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Embers is the very underrated wrestler and grappler We've seen that Rodriguez has good leg kicks and distance management.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's contributed to several of his upsets in the UFC But even if a meal is already kind of starting to get shopworn and on his way out
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough for me to picture him winning that kind of fight against a meal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Rodriguez is going to need to be smart, mixes martial arts, and at least a saddle to thread of the takedown.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if he goes out and just tries to chip away to meal with like low kicks and a jab and an occasional cross, I do think a meal will actually piece him up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Rodriguez has the one-shot power to do what Delgado did to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Rodriguez is going to need to fight a smart fight here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am favoring him to do so, but this wouldn't feel like a pick-up in me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not minus 170 confident in him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to guess the Keith isn't either considering that he had the odds flipped, but yeah, give me Rodriguez, but just by the slightest of margins.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it, they're going to come out, you know, again, yeah, this is, I mean, this is such a fun fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Roger just continued to like upset people, that's why I thought it was going to be upset guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: A male when he's good and when he's honest, he's that super dynamic.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, um, it should be the action fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: back and forth fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rodriguez, I mean, he's a good athlete.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll put on the fee, constantly moving forward, pressing the action.
[SPEAKER_00]: He hates being pressured onto his back, but that's why he struggled with Julian Rosa.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at slipping out of range and counting.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a nice jab.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got decent power in his hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to throw a heart over hand right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like where he gets inside.
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks at elbows inside.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also attacks the body.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like his offense of wrestling a little bit better than you do, good entries from distance.
[SPEAKER_00]: He also would get to the clinch and look for some trips, not the best defensive wrestler, but he does have a good get-up game.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Isaac Dugger and couldn't hold him down, he loves Grammys to escape.
[SPEAKER_00]: and he's got a good at scramble and he needs to improve his top control though if he does get if he does get takedowns he has four subs on his record he loves the GAT and he he's got a good in a kind of though he was subbeduring or so he has some good submission defense and other fights I think the worst about his cardio is cardio has been inconsistent sometimes it's crazy sometimes it's not the best I mean Mills a pressure striker he comes out of the gate trying to take his opponents head off I mean I go back to that
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, that incredible performance against John Young Lee, Ray Lee, like a 20-punch combination of end-of-fight, tends to fight like a man, man, he can fight at Bill Stance's.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the most defensive sound fighter, he hangs his hands through the low, but he gets in the pocket, he unloads big, big shots, he works the body well, he hits very hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: He will close the distance and muscles upon us.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can get take downs, but he's definitely not a wrestler, he's a poor defensive wrestler, he also defense take downs,
[SPEAKER_00]: which is fun, be creative, scramble, I think it's just like a button a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say he had shown ability to get off the bottom, but that was not the case that gets Emma's.
[SPEAKER_00]: But overall, I think he's a pretty good grappler.
[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't need to control position better.
[SPEAKER_00]: He rushes for submissions.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a weak defensive wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was not the way about his chin is he's taken a lot of damage.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he gasped him so far against Emma's.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think his fight is awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely favor Emil on the feet pure because of his power.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm very, very torn, like I've flipped flopped on this one, and, oh, I'm, I'm flip-flopped and I'm taking the pick now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's volume on the feet can be a problem, but the take-down for Rodrigues is a problem.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still going to go to the power of a meal.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to send me a Hertz Rodriguez a couple times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rodrigues, super-talking battles back, give me a meal by decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: Man, Keith taken a page out of my playbook, because it's usually me who like talks myself from one thing to another in like the last few seconds.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Third from the top at UFC Fight Night 279 is a featherweight matchup between Andre Fili and Veniseus Oliveta.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fili, the 35-year-old Californian, is 25 and 13 with one no contest overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's 13 and 12 with one no contest in the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has alternated losses and wins in his last, I think, 12 or 13 fights with the one no contest thrown in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a pretty remarkable pattern.
[SPEAKER_01]: He fought Jose Delgado back in March at UFC fight night, Emmett versus Vallejo's coming out on the wrong end of a split decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he is due to get back in the win column here.
[SPEAKER_01]: The man with anything to say about it will be Olavera.
[SPEAKER_01]: 30 year old Brazilian is 23 and 4 overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is 4 and 1 since joining the UFC out of season 7 of Dana White's contender series.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is coming in off a loss.
[SPEAKER_01]: He won his first four fights in the UFC, kind of just slugged his way into the fringes of
[SPEAKER_01]: the rankings before running into Mario Batista in the headliner of UFC fight night 266 back in February.
[SPEAKER_01]: That turned out to be a little too much too soon for him as he got choked out in the second round by the veteran contender.
[SPEAKER_01]: Olivera then looking to get back in the win column here, reaffirmed that his best days in the division are ahead of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is favorite to do
[SPEAKER_01]: It is minus 250, 250, fairly plus 200 on the come back.
[SPEAKER_01]: More noting that Philly is infuriated Giga Chikaze in this fight, but there's been a decent amount of lead time.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like he's coming in on two weeks notice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you tell me how you think this one plays out?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who you got, and what does the fight look like?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you've heard me talk about Andre Feely before I've seen this guy fight two million times and I just do not have my good read on this guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's he can be well-rounded.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's also dated wins in losses for the last six years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody has a handle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one fight he looks like like a dark horse and division.
[SPEAKER_00]: Next fight he looks like he shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not just that he's winning a loser.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like how the extremes swing.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like I said I'll say things about it and then a good and also really give and then otherwise he looks not to like this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's he's he's well-rounded.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's technically sounded on the fee.
[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to fight out of most dances.
[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to counterstrike quick hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: He works mine a good Chris Jam, good straight follow up shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: He uses a lot of movement and footwork to keep his distance.
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves feedback strikes.
[SPEAKER_00]: When being pressured he he
[SPEAKER_00]: So when he's pressing forward, he, when negative energy doesn't cut off the cage, probably what people like to escape on him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has plus power.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a good kicking game.
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves that like rubber, where it could dip in one way through a high kick on the other side.
[SPEAKER_00]: He mixes take downs in really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a nice reactionary double.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got very good timing on his entries, but the problem is his wrestling consistency.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes he's shooting, and he's driving through the hips and cutting the corner in other times, he's not, he's struggle to get the fight to the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think gets the fight to the ground, he doesn't have the best control.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's also not a big submission artist.
[SPEAKER_00]: If he's taking down, he struggles to get back to his feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go back to the seducing suffites and the braced Mitchell fights where he was taking down and easily held down.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's also in tons of punches over the years.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am worried about his durability.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been knocked out a bunch.
[SPEAKER_00]: almost the same thing, I don't have room in this guy, he's super inconsistent, he fights out of both stances, he has incredible pressure, while dude, wasn't insanely wildly against caterpillars, but then suddenly tighten up his blows a little bit, and then he he would connect on a shot and knock at the point out, he hits incredibly hard, he has 16 TGOs, he loads up a lot, it tries to end the fight with every single blow,
[SPEAKER_00]: Good kicking game, hard body kicks, hard calf kicks, throws a bunch of spinning attacks, flying attacks.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you've got a flying KO of Bernardo's so probably just still one of the scariest things I've seen in a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: His defense sucks, he doesn't care about getting hit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that, it's because it's so true.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's defense sucks, he doesn't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's, I mean,
[SPEAKER_00]: He wants you to hit him because he's going to come back with a combination of the perfect example that's Ricky Simone fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like Ricky Simone would tag on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He would just come back with a bigger combination.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, his take down offense was pretty strong against Simone, and he gets, uh, Sunni, uh, say, you know, I can make it off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, if you take it on, he is very strong.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can work back to his feet, uh, though he isn't a submit, much of a submission thread himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: He only has two subs on his record.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure about his gas tank.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's gasped out and get some opponents.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's getting absolutely incredible cardio throwing K-makers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, gasped out pretty quickly in his last fight against Mara Batista.
[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I really don't have a good read.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think a lot is way up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this should be a pick-up because of how inconsistent both guys are.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pick
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to pick Oliver and be due to his upside, um, he should have the bigger volume.
[SPEAKER_00]: He should, you know, he has the more power, he could force Philly to be running for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I have no idea, this guy's like, I'm so on offense, but my actual pig is going to sound like I'm not, I'll say bad Philly shows when I've been Oliver, just bull rushes them, connects on something, give me Oliver right first round, knock out.
[SPEAKER_01]: that I love that you went to the inconsistency of feeling because it's a statistical curiosity, the way he's alternated to the losses and wins with the one no contest.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like the male random arcos, that way, where like how can this keep going for six fully years.
[SPEAKER_01]: But from fight to fight, he is inconsistent.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just the results.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for me, I'll be there a lot of inconsistent things about feeling, but I think it's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: When Philly decides to, he is still surprisingly good wrestler, and whether he uses it or not, really does in my mind contribute to how well everything else functions for him, and it could be a good thing for him here against Oliver.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything that gets his face off the gun rearrange against Oliver, even just a few minutes, or gives Oliver something else to think about, helps Philly, because, yeah, there is a very good possibility that Oliver just starts his
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I mean, that's what I'm leaning towards here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to skip the end spoiler.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Olivera knocks out feeling the first round to you, but I'm not minus 250 confident in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can definitely see feeling just
[SPEAKER_01]: being patient, being kind of sticky and tricky, like tying all of air up when he dives into range, trying a few of his kind of like, long arm take downs from the clans and just frustrating all of air up, making all of air tired and winning a decision that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: That there's a clear route for him to do that, but,
[SPEAKER_01]: the variables favor all over here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fully coming in, at least on relatively shorter notice, Oliver is the younger guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely the more dynamic finisher at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if it comes down to Felix Best Chance being a smart discipline game plan that makes good use of his wrestling, I'm not betting on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got Oliver by first round knockout as
[SPEAKER_01]: That brings us to the co-main event of UFC Fight 9279, a light heavyweight matchup between I1 Kudelaba and Navajo Sterling.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kudelaba, the 32-year-old Moldova is 2011 and won with one no contest overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: he is nine ten and one in the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's coming in off a win.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, he is one three of his last four, but last time he saw him was back in March at the same Emmett versus Vallejo's fight night that about five fighters on this card were on and he tapped out Omar C in the first round with a guillotine choke.
[SPEAKER_01]: He will look to build on that momentum and take down another rising kickboxing prospect in the form of sterling.
[SPEAKER_01]: 28-year-old New Zealander is a perfect 9-in-0 as a professional.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a perfect 4-in-0, since joining the UFC out of season 8 of Dana White's contender series.
[SPEAKER_01]: He fought most recently back in March at UFC, fight night out of sign, versus Piper, knocking out Bruno Lopez in the second round.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Sterling, looking to follow his teammates,
[SPEAKER_01]: like Adassagna and Carlos Olberg to UFC glory.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is favorite to at least make this next step.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keith, take a guess of what the line is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mine is 250.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sterling is a bigger favorite than that.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is minus 320.
[SPEAKER_01]: Could love a plus 250.
[SPEAKER_01]: Could have long been pretty good.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're easily good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that you're going there because one, and I think you're even out ahead of me on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like Navajo Sterling as a prospect, but if he weren't nine and oh, if he didn't have kind of an odd ball memorable name and obviously if he weren't the next big city kickboxing big kickboxer, he would not have he wouldn't be in a coma in events here and he probably wouldn't be a three to one favorite over could love it like there's a little bit of
[SPEAKER_01]: who he is as much as what he's done.
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, that's not to say he isn't a good prospect, because he is a solid prospect.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's big, like, over.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he's not.
[SPEAKER_01]: The, he's not the fluid athlete that Ulberg is to me, and he's definitely nowhere near the technical wizard on the feet that Adasanya is, which I mean, frankly, almost nobody is, but yeah, Sterling is a good solid light heavyweight striking prospect that I'm interested to see develop.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I have the feeling that if he keeps winning,
[SPEAKER_01]: the UFC's hand is almost going to be forced to give him too much to soon at some point.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it might be here, uh, coulda laba at one point.
[SPEAKER_01]: had the worst fight IQ in the worst fight IQ division in all of MMA.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like to say that you had the worst fight IQ in the UFC light heavyweight division when you're fighting alongside like Johnny Walker and Kennedy's that you're cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was saying a hell of a lot, but that was good a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about a guy, we've seen him lose and ruin fights and just bizarre ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: playing possum and pretending to be knocked out fouls, penalties, shoving matches before like the names of the fighters are called out in the cage.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like something's gonna end up being called a no contest, but we've seen it all.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure he's smarter, but he's calm down a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's the same thing I said about Johnny Walker.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not that Johnny Walker has gotten smarter as a fighter.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's just doing the same dumb thing slower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, coulda love it when he wants to.
[SPEAKER_01]: for a guy from a Greco background actually has very effective wrestling.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, Keith believes and I believe with him that Greco is not terribly applicable to MMA, at least not as much as free style or folk style wrestling.
[SPEAKER_01]: But could a lot of uses it for what it's worth.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a bear to deal with in the clinch, and if he gets a body lock on you, he can send you flying.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't look like the hugest guy in the division, like people like
[SPEAKER_01]: he might be as strong as any of them in terms of just like who throw him in the gym who could deadlift the most he's up there he's an absolute beast of a man and he uses it for what it's worth brute force takedowns and brute force punching uh there's there's not a whole lot of fast to a striking game but when he decides to turn it up he throws a lot of punches and they all have a ton of mustard on him.
[SPEAKER_01]: the problem is everything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does not know when to wrestle and when to strike.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does not know when to back off and take a deep breath versus bite down on his mouth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Garden put his head down and swing.
[SPEAKER_01]: we've, his tactical mistakes in the UFC are legends and his gas take is very inconsistent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes it seems like despite being a ball of muscle and fighting at kind of a furious pace, he's fine for three rounds, other times he just looks like he's toast after like three minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are good routes to victory for him against Sterling.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's absolutely the kind of guy that could just keep Sterling on the back foot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Could the lobby wants to be on the inside?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be shorter than Sterling, have a shorter reach.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he is a puncher where Sterling is going to want to kick and punch.
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, could the lobby is going to want to clinch and grind and look for upper body take-downs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just, his, everything about his game is calculated to make Sterling uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_01]: The huge line in Sterling's favor here is basically a vote of confidence that Sterling's either going to be able to back up, circle away, and peck away at Kudalaba with long-range weapons, or catch him on the way in and blast him with something big, or banking on Kudalaba either guessing out or making a terrible mistake.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's minus 300 likely.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going with Sterling here, but this feels like a coin flip fight, if good could Lobba shows up, he's going to be a ton of trouble for Sterling.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, give me Sterling to hang on by the season, maybe by could Lobba blowing around with a big mistake or getting tired late, but I do not have a ton of confidence in this, and I definitely do not have minus 300 confidence in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think it should be that big.
[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely think it should be the favorite.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you should be, I mean, should be under minus 200.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can see it like, like, my as 165 would make sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he, I definitely feel like he has some big image.
[SPEAKER_00]: And coulda love that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, obviously he's a wrestle boxer.
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves to throw down in the pocket.
[SPEAKER_00]: there won't be hard hooks, me look at the guy, the guy is jacked.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like definition of testosterone.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a mean left hook.
[SPEAKER_00]: He will telegraph his shots by loading up a lot, but if he connects, he does have, but he does have power, but he's been more relaxed recently than we call him K1 Kudalaba.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of single strikes, we saw that against Flippy Lens.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's got to find the balance between the berserker one and the, like, low output against Flippulans.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would actually, if I had to pick one, I actually would pick the Brawling one, one, it's more fun, but also like it helps his power minus like the spinning attacks, like he'll do something like he'll just spinning attack and fall on the ground.
[SPEAKER_00]: He, he, he, there was a lot of kicks, defensively he, he eats a lot of shot, he pillars, he's open the way kicks, he doesn't check him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He will close the distances, we've been doing a lot in battle in the clinch.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a very solid wrestler, and he's been wrestling a lot lately.
[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't trust him enough to say that he will should like go out and wrestle if I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's just going to come out and be a very heavy wrestling attack.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would feel very confident.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to say confident.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel pretty good picking him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now his control isn't the great.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he just put a Johnny Walker.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if he's on top, he's got me ground a pound.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does struggle if you put him on his back.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Emily, he just showed some grappling skills in his last, like, like, digital skills.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's sub to Omar, see, for the guillotine.
[SPEAKER_00]: But let me also get caught in a submission by Johnny Walker.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, and he's passed these guests out in the past and like you said, he has historically some of the worst financial year of all time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Navajo, certainly, obviously he's a very good kickboxer.
[SPEAKER_00]: It may sit by the shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a good left hook.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like the works of body well.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does hit hard, beautiful walk off KO on the contender series.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has good head movement, which you know, I don't say a lot as usually the opposite.
[SPEAKER_00]: Counseling bounces head off the center line.
[SPEAKER_00]: a good kicking game, good team gigs, good high kick, a throw some question mark kicks out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love his step in these.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does good work in the clinch.
[SPEAKER_00]: He can get a take down again, that's not his strength, but he stays composed with things go wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's one thing that I wrote my notes for the star.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen him hurt in the past, which obviously is not a good thing for a guy on the rise, but he also, like, whether it's storm, stay composed, he's gonna probably have to do that
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like, I feel like Kool, I was having a career turn around, you know, the turn around, but I still don't trust him, you know, I'm waiting for us to be like, oh, that's the Kool I'll be home now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I stay sterling pieces off from just in hearts on with some body shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: I see Kool, I would do something stupid and sterling finishes them in the second round for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Give me sterling, but I second round to you, Kail.
[SPEAKER_01]: And with that, we come to the main event of UFC Vegas 119, a men's flyway contenders bout and a rematch between Manel Cop and Kyoji Horiguchi.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cup, the 32-year-old Angolan, by way of Thailand, by way of Las Vegas, is 22 and 7 overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is 7 and 3 since joining the UFC as the former Ryzen flyweight champ.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is on a three-fight win streak that honestly could be an 8-fight win streak more on that in the moments.
[SPEAKER_01]: Since his loss to Muhammad McCayah about two years ago, he has three straight T.K.O.
[SPEAKER_01]: wins over Bruno Silva, Asu Amabayah, and Brandon Royval.
[SPEAKER_01]: The most recent of those, the Royval fight was last December in the headliner of UFC on ESPN 73.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cop could conceivably have gotten the call for a title shot, but instead he will be facing horror Gucci.
[SPEAKER_01]: 35 year old from Japan is 36 and five with one no contest overall.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is nine and one across two separate stints in the UFC, one and a no since rejoining the UFC.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, two but no since rejoining the UFC worth noting his only loss in the UFC is to Demetrius Johnson and a prime Demetrius Johnson before or Gucci was really in this prime.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Floyd versus canelo of MMA were like the all-time great got the obvious future star.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a little too early, but at any rate, since coming back as the former rise in Bannonweight and flyweight champ and former Belotor Bannonweight champ, he is 2-0 with wins.
[SPEAKER_01]: over to Giro Lombekov and Amir al-Bazi.
[SPEAKER_01]: Horiguchi also could conceivably have gotten the call for a title shot, but these two will be meeting here, and it's not the first time.
[SPEAKER_01]: They fought in the Ryzen Grand Prix all the way back in 2017, and it was a one-night tournament, and they actually met in the first round of the tournament at the time Horiguchi was far more heralded.
[SPEAKER_01]: cop was a raw prospect and poor Gucci frankly embarrassed them on the ground like badly badly outgrabbled them and tapped them out in the third round.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost 10 years ago, both men have a wealth of experience in between them.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost irrelevant to who they are now, but it's certainly as little spice to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Keith, your favorite in this one is minus 160, underdog plus 135, who are they?
[SPEAKER_00]: Hard Gucci's favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: it's actually cop, monocop minus 160 kg or Gucci plus 135, so these guys are obviously two of the red hottest contenders in the men's flyway division and it could be even more so.
[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds good to say cop is seven and three since joining the UFC out of rise about what really happened is he lost his first two fights had some weight trouble and you can argue that he should be on an eight fight win streak since that he lost a Bahama Bukaiov but a majority of media scores including both U.N. me scored it for cop and if you are so bad like they
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we all lost that fight, but if he had gotten the nod, they're he already would have challenged for a title by now.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he would have been the next guy up at some point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Same with the person way it is hurt him too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But his weight issues are really all in his first three or four UFC fights.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does he blow my sense?
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, he's he's sort of got it under under control.
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: moving his camp to Vegas, we talked about this on the UFC Freedom 250 recap just last night where I said I think for what he does take good strikers and make him great Trevor Whitman is the best coach in MMA right now and maybe the best ever for taking a fighter that has a ton of talent and just needs a little more discipline and focus, extreme contours kind of hit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you go there, you're you're working with a serious business like task master of a coach and you've got extreme contour and the UFC PI's facilities for you know, strength conditioning and nutrition there.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of the place where weight problem fighters, their weight problems go to die.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad the cop has done that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or Gucci, again, after his win over Al-Bazi and February, there is the possibility he could have gotten the call for a title shot, but instead, we get this fantastic main event.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna flip it to you, to tell me who you think it's a done, and who would you think the UFC would rather if they have a preference?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good question.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think they'd rather have Harguchi still in, even though, you know, cops facing OS and he, I know Harguchi works facing us a little bit, either think like a limited thing that was kind of think of on farm.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know he's younger obviously he's more exciting with the way he knocks guys out but he means he's pulled out a lot of the fights and yeah he does have the weight thing down but he I was just going through his record checking he hasn't made championship weight I think he's made championship weight one time in the UFC like usually if he's making weights 126 I know it's not like not an issue but that extra pound at 125 is the
[SPEAKER_00]: As far as, I think the US would rather have hargot you in, but he's a question, you're Josh Van.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who do you rather have one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I think Van would rather have cop wed. Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when it goes bad, it gets to go a copy goes real bad, but yeah, well, I'm not saying he's right, but I'm I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I know anything about how Van thinks he's like, all I got to do against cop is make sure not to get hit by about eight kill shots over the course of the fight, whereas a horror Gucci might just start wrestling and scrambling with me and make my
[SPEAKER_00]: like MMA fighters also think differently.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like he said, oh man, when cop can actually get knocked out, like, top guys, do like they're like that challenge.
[SPEAKER_01]: You ask me, but like a 52 year old, like barely trained guy, they're a lightweight side rather fight the menel cop.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's why they're built differently than we are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's a really fun fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously title implications.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the winner could get a night.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I think Pintoja deserves to be matched before anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the winner is one of the right next in line.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Gorguchi is absolutely sensational since the return to UFC.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a great athlete.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's well-rounded.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just faints to set up his shots really well.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a lot of movements to create angles.
[SPEAKER_00]: He changes angles when he's punching.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's good at changing as rhythm of his attacks.
[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of confuse his opponents.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got quick hands, he's good at beating at the point of contact, he's got a great great straight right, he has serious power for flyway, he's got 15 TKOs, he kind of closed a distance and do good work in the clinch, he likes knees inside, he's well rounded, he's a solid wrestler, he wrestles a lot to, I mean I was super impressed with this wrestling that gets me a lot back off.
[SPEAKER_00]: fast entries, good at winning scrambles.
[SPEAKER_00]: If he ends up on top, he does damage.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a submission thread.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's hard to take down.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, go back to like the Darren Call Wells fights, wait back.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the first fight call was taken off the three batch.
[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if he's taken out, he's even harder to hold down.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am a little worried about his durability though.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's taken a lot of damage over the years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, it's so hard and he's got the cardio to go all 15 minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: In this case, 25 minutes, and he's got the championship experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: Accompanied me, he's a really big guy for the way class.
[SPEAKER_00]: though we've talked about the way issue issues seem to have that you know some under control.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's which is stance a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has massive power then that's what he has.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's a kale machine.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a power in both hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes he can be a little too tentative and not let his hands go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, he talked about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He could be like, I have, but it's also like he put himself in position where there wasn't a lot of offense.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's my, maybe the worst, it's not, it's not often going to bad fly away.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I, that might be the worst in the history.
[SPEAKER_00]: He gives away a round by cruising, which obviously is like,
[SPEAKER_00]: unknown for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: He does drop his hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: He uses good head movement and which allows him to land his counters.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's super accurate.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's explosive, hard kicks to the body, hard kicks to the calf, great explosive high kick and not much of an offensive wrestler.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have a really good read on his defense wrestling.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's been, it looks solid against Pantosia and on the way up, but then it looked bad against Macauia and other guys in the past.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if taken down, he also struggles to get back to his feet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is tremendous fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm high in both guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think both guys could actually not even just
[SPEAKER_00]: with this fight could have been a title one day.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a hard one to pick.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to pick against cop because he hit so hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: He could be losing the whole fight and then bam changed everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: He, you know, won a single blow.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I will go with the MC, I'm going to Haragoshi.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to stick and move.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to mix and take downs.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to beat up cop from my top and give me Haragoshi by decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the breakdown there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they should have mentioned off the top.
[SPEAKER_01]: a band that will be fighting on Saturday, but will certainly be watching.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not that far removed.
[SPEAKER_01]: UFC McCow was just like three weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kai Asakura after his, you know, impressive win just yells out, I'm the best striker in this division when both these guys knocked his block off.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they were already booked to fight each other like three weeks down the road.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the confidence in Asakura.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure, and Jorge, you're like, okay, can I
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, I was a cure.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even move up to 135 isn't that why he's yeah, yeah, but I mean, the best try flyway striker.
[SPEAKER_00]: All you do is make the both of these guys the best flyway striker is the current champion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's van, for sure, yeah, but I'm like, I'm the biggest fan, like, like, Stan, like, I love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's fantastic, but it's not a stretch to call them the best striker in the division for just the combination of volume power accuracy, but yeah, he's been having it all pretty damn good, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been having cop as good and how acute he's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's a lot of this division rules, so this division rules.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you, I immediately lean towards the upset here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You laid out beautifully the
[SPEAKER_01]: the great points and the challenges of cops game.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is a stupidly hard hitter.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not just like he's some headless slugger.
[SPEAKER_01]: He picks a shots, but he's technically solid, accurate.
[SPEAKER_01]: He delivers that power with a wide variety of strikes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like his kicks and knees have a ton of power.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just his punches.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he really is a one shot sniper of the kind that we rarely see in these lower divisions.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably in the interest of conserving his gas tank, he cruises him, waits for that perfect shot to the point that it's tough for him to win rounds when he doesn't land the big one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Horiguchi, being a movement heavy volume heavy guy that tends to mix wrestling and striking seamlessly once he gets going, is gonna win rounds against cop almost by default and let's copper it some badly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm already thinking, okay,
[SPEAKER_01]: And less cop hurts or a Gucci badly, or you can almost pencil or a Gucci and for a decision went, but on top of the rest, on top of that, or a Gucci can probably take cop down.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if he does, like I think or a Gucci's ground game is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's a joy to watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: He is,
[SPEAKER_01]: just athletic, well-rounded.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting that, you know, he had that early career, very one-sided loss to the Metrius Johnson, because he's sort of slotting into that same type of fighter at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: The exact skills aren't the same, but in terms of being somebody who's at least pretty damn good at everything and has crafted a game that makes use of his physical advantages and papers over his physical limitations as well as possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: he's he's an amazing fighter.
[SPEAKER_01]: One thing even then is wins over Ulumbekov and al-Bazi that surprised me about who our Gucci is.
[SPEAKER_01]: he's smaller than I expected.
[SPEAKER_01]: I knew exactly what he looked like.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd seen him in the UFC for eight or nine fights way back when he was young.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember thinking, yep, yeah, he might be a little bit on the on the small side of average, but I just felt like he was smaller, even then I'll bossy and I'll bossy is not a huge flyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: If they get into the cage, then it just looks like Coppa's 15 pounds heavier than Horiguchi.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might start to be concerned about how Haur Gucci will respond to the one day shot from cop or whether Haur Gucci will be able to get his wrestling working against cop if he wants to.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what it looks like on the scale at the face offs and obviously in the cage.
[SPEAKER_01]: As I see it right now, I'm with you Keith.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm leaning towards Horiguchi in the slight upset.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he gets it done by decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably will have to navigate a few scary moments here and there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody gets through a monelcop fight unscathed or unscathed, but give me Kyoji Horiguchi to show his championship quality and get it done by decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is it, the Shoredog Radio Network preview for UFC Fight Night 279, cop versus Horiguchi 2, also known as UFC Vegas 119.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Keith takes the captain's chair.
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