[SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever seen any of these housewives or their husbands in public after?
[SPEAKER_05]: A couple times.
[SPEAKER_05]: Previously on the handyman of West Texas.
[SPEAKER_02]: Me and my buddy had went to a restaurant bar kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw one of women with her husband.
[SPEAKER_02]: We kind of made eye contact and I looked away and she looked away and that was it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't say anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: She didn't say anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously my buddy didn't know anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, who knows you're doing this?
[SPEAKER_05]: Nobody.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nobody in your life knows you're a handyman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Only the people that have hired me, really.
[SPEAKER_05]: But one day, one of the husbands of one of these wealthy West Texas housewives throws Mickey a curve ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: The husbands were somewhere else at the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Until that first one where it has been, that's where the door is.
[SPEAKER_02]: He said, do you want to be with my wife?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, I was like, I'm not sure what you mean.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, do you want to talk to my wife?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Toto, I have a feeling where not can't just anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you are good witch or bad witch.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm Jonathan Walton.
[SPEAKER_05]: And this is the handyman of last taxes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you want to f**k my wife?
[SPEAKER_02]: I went to a job and I had been communicating with wife and so I was just expecting her wife.
[SPEAKER_02]: but when I came to a location where the job was supposed to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I job, you mean the handyman job.
[SPEAKER_02]: They called me for a handyman job.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they did it.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'll wife calls you for it.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is what you think.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is just more the same.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to go bang this woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she prepsed it as a plumbing job.
[SPEAKER_02]: They needed some sinks change out at their place.
[SPEAKER_05]: And at this point, Mickey is 99% certain there is no actual plumbing job, even though he's planning to lay some pipe as usual, collect his cash and be gone.
[SPEAKER_05]: When all of a sudden something unexpected happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I went over and husband answer the door.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was like, okay, this is going to be because I've had a legitimate job for that.
[SPEAKER_05]: You think, oh, this is a real handyman job.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm glad I brought my tools.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so always bring your tools.
[SPEAKER_02]: Always, you've got to assume that it's, you know, for legitimate purposes, this is, you know, a handyman job.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, um, I go into the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, nice to meet you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm handyman.
[SPEAKER_02]: My name's Mickey.
[SPEAKER_02]: His name was John or some other random, you know, generic name.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, uh, we go in and his wife's sitting on the couch in something silky, you know, whoo, she had like,
[SPEAKER_02]: not a bathroom, it's kind of like a silky robe and wearing very little underneath.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like one of those short silky robes, you can see her legs exactly as she was on the couch, and it's like all this is my wife, Candy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mickey's suddenly in a days, mesmerized by this man's beautiful wife.
[SPEAKER_05]: He has no idea that candy isn't just sitting on the couch wearing that short silky robe by happenstance, it's all part of a detailed and seductive trap that Mickey is falling for, hard, albeit unknowingly.
[SPEAKER_05]: The husband pats Mickey on the back, snapping him out of his stupor.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, let me show you where the work is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm still thinking, okay, this still legitimate job.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm like, oh, shit, you know, the wife's really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, she was hot.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was hot.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's the redhead.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a thing for redhead.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was redhead.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we walk in, uh,
[SPEAKER_02]: he's he's again we're thinking about changing out these sinks and I was like okay do you have the sink set no it's something we've just had been talking about I was like so you don't have the sinks that you want me to change out it's known we were just you know I wanted to know if you can do this I was like yeah I could change out sinks you know it was a fairly simple job he's like what do you think of my wife
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you think of my wife?
[SPEAKER_05]: What kind of husband would ask a total stranger?
[SPEAKER_05]: A handyman, he had just met a question like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: What do you think of my wife?
[SPEAKER_05]: Huh.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know that that that stopped me obviously and I was like she's very attractive if you're lucky man That kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I still still you don't know where she's going.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm playing it safe You know, I don't want to go too far Like why she's you know, she's very attractive woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're lucky man So I think so too She's like she she likes a rugged looking guy She's like he's like you're pretty rugged looking and I was like well, thank you And he's like once you come over and meet her Is like okay, so we go into the other room and
[SPEAKER_02]: is why stands up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she looks better getting up.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's really attractive.
[SPEAKER_02]: How old is she?
[SPEAKER_02]: She's maybe early 40s, late 30s, but she's yeah, right head.
[SPEAKER_02]: killer body and all real all real all real no fake boobs and yeah very attractive and so she introduced herself you know I'm candy I'm making nice to meet you and her hand shake lingers and she's just like staring at me like seductively and the husband's just standing there watching us and you know so I'm feeling a little awkward I don't know where you know what's next
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, okay, he's like, do you want a drink?
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, yes, please, I'd be here to drink really bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: So at this point, you know something's about to go down.
[SPEAKER_05]: Something's about to go down.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you want something like this is a first time thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I have no idea, I have no point in reference on what's going to happen next, what's the etiquette here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And something, yes, please, give me a shot of something because call my nerves because I'm nervous.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a husband and a wife here, what's going down.
[SPEAKER_02]: and so he gets me a drink, I think it's some kind of whiskey, and we sit down and I sit down next to the wife and he's sitting in an opposite chair and he starts asking me, he's like, do you think my wife's attractive?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I look over to her and she smiles just puts her hand on my lap.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, yeah, she's very attractive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, I happen to have a thing for redheads, and she's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, I think she is too.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he turns to his wife, she's like, what do you think?
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, I like them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, okay, what's going down right now?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, he's like, do you want to be with my wife?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, no, did he use those words?
[SPEAKER_02]: He said, do you want to be with my wife?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, same, I was like, I'm not sure what you mean.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, do you want to fuck my wife?
[SPEAKER_02]: were you worried he might snap I was but I'm I'm all a full guy you know if you can you can you can take that I couldn't take it if it came to that I wasn't thinking of that at the time I was thinking holy shit you know yeah of course I want to fuck your wife if she's fine and and then she reached her hand closer of my crotch and started grabbing me and he's he's like do you mind if I watch
[SPEAKER_02]: For a good amount of time I was kind of it was like a graze on in my head I don't think I said anything and he's like hello And I said you want to watch me fuck your wife.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yeah, you mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said I don't mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like Did she get a mind?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, are you, are you going with this candy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause I didn't know, you know, if there's a dominant, submissive kind of thing that he was forcing his wife, I don't, that's another thing I'm not into.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna be in a situation where someone's being forced to do something that I don't want to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone has to be active, willing participants, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I was like, are you okay with this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's like, yeah, she's like, I wanted to do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I made him call you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, okay, again, I didn't know this was a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, sure, you know, I don't mind.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she starts, you know, taking off her robe and getting on top of me and he's sitting there on the chair maybe 10 feet away from us.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she's trying to lead me and she starts kissing me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And immediately I start getting into it and I keep aids into the background kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: At this point, they don't know that you have these eight and a half Coca-Cola can inches.
[SPEAKER_02]: They do not.
[SPEAKER_05]: What is the moment when she makes this discovery?
[SPEAKER_02]: The moment she takes off my pants, it basically smacks her in the face, he stands up at that point and he's like, Do you mind if I if I get this on camera because his eyes are wide open and she's like looking at him like, you know, They weren't expecting it, you know, and most people aren't.
[SPEAKER_05]: So let me get this straight.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was not planning to get this on camera to record anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now until he saw your giant piece.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming because, you know, he got up and eyes wide open and asked that and it seemed to be that it was like, you know, after he saw he's like, I got to get this all fell.
[SPEAKER_02]: and a great well there she blown captain I'm like a snow hill like a movie dick situation yeah so he goes and gets his camera well he gets his phone is phone yeah okay and uh starts recording and you know we need to be didn't stop and well he asked his and do you mind if I get some tape how's he go ahead you know I don't mind I'm not a shy guy you know
[SPEAKER_02]: and so as he shuffles off to get himself prepared, me and his wife just continue on and she starts sucking me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I'm staying there in the middle of the living room, middle of the day and he comes back and he's like, he gets pretty close, a little bit more close and I was comfortable with because this is the first time you know, a husband's been present during the activities.
[SPEAKER_02]: But pretty pretty fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got comfortable.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm who cares, you know, I'm going to focus on her and you can feel most all he likes and he's trying to do is zoom in.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's trying to be still berg over there and, you know, I mean her just, you know, progress from there and we have sex on the couch, a couple different positions and the husband's filming the whole time and
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was And he's fully clothed He's fully clothed And is he like stroking himself or playing with his Dick?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know He was a singer tension I wasn't paying attention I could hear him, you know, every now and then He's like breathing hard and just saying He's like, take a pitch, you know But he was talking to his wife He was take a pitch Yeah And uh So I was It was kind of, you know Uh
[SPEAKER_02]: But it was hot, you know, I was like, you know, we're being watched.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not only watch the husband's watched me, you know, and that was a turn on You know, I know point where you like turning around to shush him like dude.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm losing my bone or shut up.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it was hot It was hot, but it was just you know new.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was new.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was weird It was with the fuck you know it because at times out for get he was there and then he would remind me
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, take it bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I see what the fuck I would forget that he was there, so it was, it was, it was crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was surreal, but it was hot.
[SPEAKER_05]: And was this, were these wealthy people, this is a big wealthy house, these are rich people?
[SPEAKER_05]: They were always big houses.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he's an oil guy too, you think.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, well, exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: He would have had to have been, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anybody with money out there has to have something to do with oil field.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, that's, that's the, the main attraction.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no other market out there other than oil and so.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can live in a shack, and you're probably working at McDonald's, but if you're living in a nice house, you're in the olive field.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, middle of the day, he's filming you, Bang is wife, and he's exclaiming, take a bench.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And like, this is what they're into.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, she's equally into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't get it myself, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all into it, and I'm all for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I can never put myself in his situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to see someone else with my girlfriend or my wife's like, well, I would have offered.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a thing, and people like it, people are into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the turn on.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's called cock holding.
[SPEAKER_05]: A cock-old hundreds of years ago was defined as a husband who had an unfaithful wife, and it was thought of as humiliating.
[SPEAKER_05]: The term itself was used to mock these men as fools, or chumps, or cock-holes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Shakespeare alludes to cuckolds and a handful of his plays.
[SPEAKER_05]: Most notably, much ado about nothing, and a fellow.
[SPEAKER_05]: That cuckold lives in bliss, who, certain of his fate, loves naughties eronga.
[SPEAKER_05]: But the word itself, cuckold, is actually derived from the Kuku bird, a deceptive and sli creature notorious for laying its own eggs
[SPEAKER_05]: And by the way, this is what a Kuku bird actually sounds like in the wild.
[SPEAKER_05]: I kid you not.
[SPEAKER_05]: These days, though, the word cuckold connotes an aberrant sexual proclivity, usually consisting of married men who get off, literally and figuratively, watching other men have sex with their wives.
[SPEAKER_05]: And looking back now, it's playing to see that Mickey's first cuckold encounter was no coincidence.
[SPEAKER_02]: I walked into a plant situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was unaware of it, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: How do they know you would be into it?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like someone must have chipped them off that, hey, this handyman lays pipe, like call him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm assuming they knew my, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: experiences with other housewives.
[SPEAKER_02]: So someone must have told candy.
[SPEAKER_05]: So candy has a friend.
[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, to the guy's credit, he kind of felt you out, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like you find my wife attractive.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, obviously you weren't offended.
[SPEAKER_05]: You answered.
[SPEAKER_05]: I do.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then it led to you want to, you know, be with my wife.
[SPEAKER_05]: He used to be with my wife.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then once you were like, what do you mean?
[SPEAKER_05]: He's like, do you want to fuck my wife?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: So they knew what they were doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure it wasn't their first time.
[SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't their first time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Bang and candy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, after after I realized that this was a culture that that's out there, that this is, you know, a whole community of guys that are into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's guys that go to bars with their wives, specifically setting up the situation to pick up other guys to bring home with them.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, which is, it's wild.
[SPEAKER_05]: And this is something I knew too.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I did a series called Cocaine Air.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you haven't heard Cocaine Air people, take a listen.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's 12 episodes.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's the TJ Dominguez story.
[SPEAKER_05]: By day, he owns and operates the largest Lamborghini dealership in the world by night he's flying Cocaine for Pablo Escobar.
[SPEAKER_05]: So in one of his Cocaine things in the Bahamas, he's at a restaurant with his friend and a married woman with her husband at another table starts flirting with him.
[SPEAKER_05]: Behind her husbands' back it would appear, they go to the bathroom together, TJ and the woman, and make a plan to meet the next day, while her husband's away.
[SPEAKER_05]: And TJ goes to her hotel room, they start having sex, TJ hears a noise, it's the husband who comes back who's supposed to be gone the whole day.
[SPEAKER_01]: in the bed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just jumped up though when I heard the door had a bad feeling.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was an housekeeping.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I reached from my pants.
[SPEAKER_01]: I put on my pants.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm buttening my pants.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a shirt on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have shoes on.
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy looks at me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Looks at her.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's in the bed.
[SPEAKER_05]: And as TJ is telling me the story, I'm thinking, this is a cuckold situation.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like he didn't mean to make a noise.
[SPEAKER_05]: He wanted to watch you with his wife.
[SPEAKER_05]: Evidence of that in my mind was the fact that the husband wasn't mad.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that struck TJ.
[SPEAKER_05]: TJ's like he didn't appear to be mad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: because, and again, this was like the Bahamas 1980s.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, different time, but still way more back then, people don't know this cuckold thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: But don't you think this is a husband or wife who had arranged this?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what it was.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I think so too.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's not as wide known as you would think.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, shit, I didn't know anything about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I didn't know anything about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, listen to me either.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess the people that are in the lifestyle assume everyone else knows, but we don't, you know, and so You're in that situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, what the hell is going on here?
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't realize because it doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would a husband want to see his wife being fucked up, but it's a thing, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a thing.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's a whole genre of porn on cornhough, a big one.
[SPEAKER_05]: Cuckold.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Millions of videos of all different kinds of cuckolds in areas.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I've made a quite a few of myself.
[SPEAKER_05]: And how long did that first encounter with the husband wife last?
[SPEAKER_05]: That one was pretty long, actually.
[SPEAKER_05]: It went.
[SPEAKER_02]: over an hour and what do they pay you?
[SPEAKER_02]: They paid me 500 they just gave you 500 and that was like you didn't ask for 500.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't ask for anything.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is worth 500.
[SPEAKER_05]: I guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: They took it upon themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they included a tamper.
[SPEAKER_05]: and you never set a price for sex.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's whatever they feel like paying at the end.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: How many months or years are you doing this handyman sex work before the first cuckold husband pops up onto the sea?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was before the first year mark somewhere between six and nine months.
[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so yeah, check a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: It took a while.
[SPEAKER_05]: If you had to put a number on it, how many husband wife cuckold situations have you been involved with?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to say, somewhere in between 30 and 40.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say.
[SPEAKER_05]: having you thank the life while the husband watches.
[SPEAKER_05]: And does it ever like does the husband ever want to do more like have you been in a situation where the husband tried to get in on it with you?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's been a couple situations where they awkwardly try to and the wife kind of slap some back.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, that's mine.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he tries to get too close and the wife's like, get back, you know, sometimes call him degrading names.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, they're the bitch in that point.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, get back, bitch, you know.
[SPEAKER_05]: In those scenarios, walk me through what that looks like.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the wife initiates it to degrade the husband.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: And what is she saying?
[SPEAKER_05]: What is she doing?
[SPEAKER_05]: She's, I mean, it's, I feel bad for the guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the guy wants this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, this is how real dick's supposed to feel like, you know, I'm finally getting fucked right, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: you never made me come, look at how many times he's already made me come, you know, those kind of things, and yeah, pretty bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_02]: And well, how does the guy react to this?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just like, shameful, but smiling at the same time, you know, he puts his head down, he's like, you could only even deserve to look at this kind of, turn away kind of thing, and sometimes he was a smack in the face and was like, oh, Jesus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's, it's wild.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and um,
[SPEAKER_05]: because he's there of his own volition.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, like, he's not being forced like that they're into this.
[SPEAKER_05]: This is what it takes supposed to be like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she, and yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, have you ever heard these fucking noises coming out of me when you're fucking me?
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course you did, you know, baby dick.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, all that stuff, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: And real terrible stuff, all I gotta do is look well.
[SPEAKER_05]: And are the husbands ever masturbating?
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes.
[SPEAKER_05]: They're watching masturbating, so it's like their own point out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I have a video of one guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a secondary camera video taping me in his wife.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't notice it until afterwards until session was over, I was looking at the video, and it's a totally shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Guys jerking off, I'd be behind us.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know it at the time, but yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Wow, what a scene, a cuckold scene.
[SPEAKER_05]: And even though Mickey enjoys participating in these kinds of scenes, it is so far removed from what he would ever want for himself in his own life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, because I've tried in the past to put myself in their shoes and I could never do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I've had girlfriends, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna show you what anyone else is pretty crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but some people, that sort of thing, so I'm there for them.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's definitely something I know I've learned at this age, so they wish I knew when I was younger.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whatever perceived
[SPEAKER_05]: defect you have.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whatever perceived thing you think that makes you different from everyone else, there is someone out there into it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like whatever you are, there are people who will love that about you.
[SPEAKER_05]: Whatever you hate about yourself or hide about yourself or dislike about yourself, someone's into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's some culture that, you know, that's something.
[SPEAKER_05]: Life is beautiful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever you're ashamed of is celebrated by some varieties, by some like.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really is, it really is.
[SPEAKER_05]: And sometimes some of these cockles scenes that Mickey gets hired for actually happen in public.
[SPEAKER_05]: One couple that hits Mickey up over text asks him to meet them at a local bar on a crowded Saturday night.
[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted to set a scene where, you know, I honestly run into her in a bar and kind of pick her up while he's there watching.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not initially supposed to know that I'm picking up a married woman, you know, even though we're setting it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's kind of a role play kind of right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, but at the end of the day, he wants me to pick up his wife.
[SPEAKER_02]: take her back and fuck her while he's, you know, watching us.
[SPEAKER_05]: Pick her up where and take her back where.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pick her up at the bar, have a couple drinks, start flirting, start, you know, touching at the bar, kind of while he watches.
[SPEAKER_02]: While he watches.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're not supposed to know he's a husband watching at first, and then she's supposed to, you know, cue me into the fact that she is married and husband's, you know, rubbing around and that he's letting her, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: pick up a guy at the bar and then we all go back together to their place and you know it's
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a roleplay fantasy kind of, uh, my wife's hot, and I bet I can get a guy to pick her up kind of deal, but they didn't want to actually do it in real life.
[SPEAKER_02]: They wanted to do it, set up, mock kind of, you know, safer to set it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, they could go sideways to real exactly, but there's a lot of couples that do it real.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Just like the TJ situation.
[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have a hot lady there and she's going to get picked up, you know, kind of deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: and so they were kind of simulating that in a safe space because they wanted to make sure it went their way.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that's what you're an actor.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, you're playing a role and you know what your lines are.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know how this is going to act exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: How did it end?
[SPEAKER_05]: How did it go?
[SPEAKER_05]: It went great.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was attractive lady, you know, and he was a little more submissive than I thought.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like she was the mistress.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a servant.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we tied them to the bed.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he was he was kind of like colored to the bed post.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it a collar?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you tied them to the bed.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like he would have to ask permission.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can, you know, can I clean you guys up?
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, like clean up what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I try come and
[SPEAKER_02]: Eat it up and then she would slap them and say, you don't deserve it and she'd spin in his face.
[SPEAKER_05]: That will just serve it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is wild.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is pretty wild, and you live a life that most people can only dream of.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I haven't made a dream for this stuff, you know.
[SPEAKER_05]: How?
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's an area that come up of like, yeah, you can make this shit up.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then the husband that with a collar that's straight into the bed, or tied up to the bed on by the collar, when it's over, you come, he licks up your comfy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then what happens just does he come does he trick off or just show he's he has to ask permission to come So he's he asked her You know, and he did he's I can't can I can I come she's like now you don't deserve it and she's like watch me suck his dick And you know, she'll start blowing me and he's like just sit there and watch and she'll be looking at him making sure he doesn't touch himself It's wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, she's she's the she's got the pants family
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just such a strange, kind of slice of life and the, you know, cultural dynamic with like, you know, everyone's very religious and this is all behind closed doors and it's like, you know, hushed voices about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: My buddy and executive producer of his podcast, Evan Goldstein.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, and it's juicy, you know, it's just like, cloaking dagger sex.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is, it's total cloaking dagger sex.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're a guy married to a woman.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Would you want to see another guy bang your wife?
[SPEAKER_05]: Think, oh, cry.
[SPEAKER_05]: You'd cry.
[SPEAKER_04]: They go with cry.
[SPEAKER_04]: If I walked in on it, like cheating, I would be angry.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if I agreed to it, like if she said, I want to bang the sky and want you to walk.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then I agreed to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I watched, I would, I think I would just cry.
[SPEAKER_04]: And just I would, I would, I would feel it would.
[SPEAKER_04]: stain our relationships somehow, you know, yeah, it's like, yeah, I'm the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't want to.
[SPEAKER_04]: The emotions are too complex.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's really hard to separate sometimes, sex and love as far as like, if you love someone, you get feel like they're only yours, and that's the most intimate way that you could be together.
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to take a moment to point out here that out of all the podcasts I have ever produced, including Queen of the Con, Cocaine Air, the quarterback in the Con artist, the handy man of West Texas is the only series that my own mother has taken a serious interest in.
[SPEAKER_05]: She literally could not care less about all the others, but she's really invested in Mickey's story.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is your mom listening?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, um, my mom is listening.
[SPEAKER_04]: Actually, I don't know if my mom's listening, but my wife is listening.
[SPEAKER_04]: Christine's, you know, I've asked her about it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, Christine, do you like it?
[SPEAKER_04]: She's like, it's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's all she'll give up.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, what do you like about it?
[SPEAKER_04]: She's like, I, it's good podcast.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll listen it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, once the next one coming out, she doesn't want to tell me why exactly.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mickey, the oil fracker slash handyman, has certainly seen and done a lot in the past five years.
[SPEAKER_05]: Ever since that first West Texas housewife, a deacon in her church made a pass at him, and then paid him $200 for their time together, which ultimately turned him into a bonafide sex worker from that point on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Mickey would probably be still going about his day as just, you know, a handyman and oil worker, but that first woman kind of initiated him and lunged at him and how many other
[SPEAKER_05]: people is she doing that too is she doing that to the plumber is she doing that to the yard guy yeah like clearly she was practiced yeah because she didn't mess around she if you were call from episode one she just come on in it's hot outside fixed him a drink set the beside him kissed him start going in it yeah like that's some confidence
[SPEAKER_04]: Does that tell you she's done this a hundred times?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, maybe.
[SPEAKER_04]: And like, if I'd guess what the, you know, the first kind of motivator is, is just, you know, unsatisfied and lonely and bored.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: She's like, healthy, lonely.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, listen, and this sounds so archaic, but the longer I live, the more it is true.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I heard this when I was a kid and I rejected it, but it's true, idle hands are the devil's workshop.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's if you are trying to raise a kid or even if you were an adult, if you have nothing to do in a lot of resources, you're going to do something bad.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you are.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's why it's so important raising kids.
[SPEAKER_05]: You want to raise good kids.
[SPEAKER_05]: Keep them busy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Get them into stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Get them into sports.
[SPEAKER_05]: Get them into robotic companies.
[SPEAKER_05]: To be occupied for sure.
[SPEAKER_05]: You need occupied.
[SPEAKER_05]: The wheels or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, or else they'll got the stuff that I was doing as a kid with nothing to do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, I got so much trouble doing my stupid shit.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just like we're bored.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's go like egg cars.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I egg cars.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, and then I got caught because I was the fat kid.
[SPEAKER_05]: I couldn't run fast.
[SPEAKER_05]: So the guy stopped his car and caught me because I was the last one.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was holding my arm hard.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like show me where they are hiding.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like they're right over there.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like I knew enough.
[SPEAKER_05]: I had it together enough as a kid to like distract him.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like they're hiding the crouch down right behind over there.
[SPEAKER_05]: And he let me go to crouch down and like disappeared.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I was smart kids.
[SPEAKER_04]: Scary.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, scary when run from the cops.
[SPEAKER_04]: I remember running from the cops like as a kid just Hooligans, you know, just like doing something stupid.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, just like let's go steal the net off that basketball hoop.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know like just stupid shit Little hands man goes back to that wealthy housewife husband's at work kids are in college.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's nothing to do Yeah, she's gonna make a pass at the handyman seat.
[SPEAKER_05]: What happens?
[SPEAKER_05]: As for Mickey, he's been so busy the past few months, working massive amounts of over time in the oil field.
[SPEAKER_05]: His handyman side hustle has kind of fallen by the way, which creates time for other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you dating women?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to date?
[SPEAKER_02]: I do date women I've had or half a dozen girlfriends.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do they don't know about the hangover?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh no.
[SPEAKER_05]: and you have enough energy to do the handyman services and then have a girlfriend because she wants to be service too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's enough of you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, usually, so when I've had girlfriends Oh, you don't do the handyman.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do just to a lesser extent.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, obviously, I'm going to pay attention to my girlfriend and give her the time that she needs.
[SPEAKER_02]: When there's free time that I have them, you know, I'll have my extra per clears, but
[SPEAKER_02]: the balance that I have doing folks that don't want to or the other depends if I currently have a girlfriend or not.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you want to get married again one day?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh no.
[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: I can't wait.
[SPEAKER_05]: Never again.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because for me, it feels there's too many restrictions.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Having a marriage.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, girlfriends, you know, there's there's some leeway.
[SPEAKER_02]: If things don't work out that they don't work out in separate ways.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you marry that, it's a whole legal
[SPEAKER_05]: The forest lawyers, money, papers, and it is acrimony.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hell.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Next time, on the handyman of West Texas.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you wear condoms?
[SPEAKER_05]: Mickey answers the questions you all have been sending in.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's another question from another listener.
[SPEAKER_05]: Does Mickey have large hands?
[SPEAKER_05]: And things take some really interesting turns.
[SPEAKER_05]: Have any of these housewives fallen in love with you or become clingy or possessive and try to stalk you or anything?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, several.
[SPEAKER_05]: The handyman of West Texas, what's created, written and hosted by me, Jonathan Walton, for Jonathan Walton Media, executive producer, Evan Goldstein.
[SPEAKER_05]: All sound design and editing was done by Jimi O'Holigan.
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