WEBVTT 00:01.519 --> 00:06.422 [SPEAKER_04]: Previously, on the handyman of West Texas, so you've been doing this work for five years. 00:06.923 --> 00:07.523 [SPEAKER_04]: On an office. 00:08.283 --> 00:15.828 [SPEAKER_04]: If you had to put a number on it, how many women have hired you as a handyman, quote unquote, and then ended up paying you for sex? 00:16.148 --> 00:19.210 [SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea, but it's, it's, is it hundreds? 00:19.531 --> 00:19.731 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. 00:20.191 --> 00:32.424 [SPEAKER_04]: And very early on, it becomes obvious that a lot of these wealthy West Texas housewives know each other and are sereticiously passing Mickey around, like the classroom hamster. 00:32.684 --> 00:37.329 [SPEAKER_02]: If you're not asking for money, how do they all give you the same amount on your face? 00:37.549 --> 00:39.671 [SPEAKER_04]: Someone gave them a heads up like, hey, it's 200 bucks. 00:40.792 --> 00:53.558 [SPEAKER_04]: And as business starts booming, Mickey begins feeling some really disturbing requests from several of these wealthy housewives who are now pushing him into exceedingly dangerous territory. 00:54.059 --> 00:57.400 [SPEAKER_01]: It's warm warmly a puncher in the head, and I was like, but did you punch her in the head? 00:57.440 --> 01:00.462 [SPEAKER_01]: In the head, she's like punching me in the back of the head. 01:05.204 --> 01:09.026 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm Jonathan Walton, and this is the handyman of West Texas. 01:10.415 --> 01:14.560 [SPEAKER_04]: episode four from Tip to Shafd. 01:20.950 --> 01:22.971 [SPEAKER_04]: So this has to be a woman you've seen many times. 01:23.011 --> 01:23.231 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. 01:23.652 --> 01:35.658 [SPEAKER_04]: Mickey and I are seated across from each other, and I just can't tear myself away from swiping through all the pictures and videos on his phone that these housewives ask him to record of their time together. 01:35.898 --> 01:37.179 [SPEAKER_04]: What do they do with these videos? 01:37.880 --> 01:41.281 [SPEAKER_01]: I never ask, it's one of those things, like, you're like, care less what you do with it. 01:41.842 --> 01:45.064 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not shy, no, you're not shy. 01:45.484 --> 01:48.966 [SPEAKER_04]: Keep in mind, these are all women with a lot to lose. 01:52.013 --> 01:59.515 [SPEAKER_04]: They're married, and they don't work, so they are financially dependent on their bread-winning oil executive husbands. 02:00.195 --> 02:05.796 [SPEAKER_04]: Why on earth would they be okay with making shooting videos of their extramarital affairs? 02:06.416 --> 02:11.997 [SPEAKER_04]: They're already taking such a huge risk, inviting this handyman into their home for sex. 02:12.657 --> 02:15.998 [SPEAKER_04]: Why make things even riskier by recording it all? 02:16.518 --> 02:23.985 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm a private person by nature and I respect people's privacy and, you know, you're the only person that has seen these videos. 02:24.025 --> 02:28.870 [SPEAKER_01]: No one's going to ever see them, you know, they're just on my phone and they have their versions of it. 02:29.110 --> 02:29.931 [SPEAKER_04]: Why do you think? 02:30.191 --> 02:33.975 [SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm just amazed that they would ask you to film them. 02:34.015 --> 02:40.381 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, maybe it has something to do with this idea that listen, I've already gone this far and I'm bang in the handyman. 02:40.942 --> 02:45.133 [SPEAKER_04]: I've had a fantasy about being a porn star, so let me fulfill that at the same time. 02:45.193 --> 02:47.079 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, I've already crossed this boundary. 02:47.139 --> 02:47.801 [SPEAKER_04]: What's another one? 02:48.726 --> 02:58.568 [SPEAKER_04]: It's sunk cost fallacy in a weird way, which, you know, in my other life, I'm a con artist expert, I wrote a book about how to not get scammed, I got scammed and got justice. 02:59.028 --> 03:12.752 [SPEAKER_04]: And there's a principle called sunk cost fallacy, where you've, you've, you've done so much already, up until this point, but it's a little more there, like with cons, like you've given them so much money and believed so many lies already, what's another lie? 03:13.132 --> 03:18.073 [SPEAKER_04]: You've invested so much of your resources and your belief and your blood and your sweat and your tears and something, what's a little more? 03:21.418 --> 03:26.609 [SPEAKER_04]: Some cost fallacy is a real thing, a powerful thing, a sneaky thing. 03:27.130 --> 03:29.655 [SPEAKER_04]: It's how places like Las Vegas were built. 03:32.986 --> 03:35.149 [SPEAKER_04]: gamblers who are losing fortunes. 03:35.629 --> 03:40.515 [SPEAKER_04]: Instead of walking away, they think to themselves, I'm already this far in. 03:40.936 --> 03:42.137 [SPEAKER_04]: What's another hundred bucks? 03:42.758 --> 03:43.819 [SPEAKER_04]: And they keep playing. 03:44.340 --> 03:46.943 [SPEAKER_04]: And they keep losing until they're broke. 03:47.604 --> 03:50.367 [SPEAKER_04]: And Las Vegas builds another casino. 03:52.302 --> 03:56.544 [SPEAKER_00]: turn on to the north end of the strip and you'll notice a fresh face of new buildings. 03:56.985 --> 04:00.587 [SPEAKER_00]: From resort world to fountain blue, you can expect the growth to continue. 04:00.707 --> 04:04.809 [SPEAKER_04]: The truth of the matter is, we are all susceptible to sunk cost fallacy. 04:05.189 --> 04:10.852 [SPEAKER_04]: In every aspect of life, how many times have you been watching a really bad movie? 04:11.272 --> 04:14.694 [SPEAKER_04]: And instead of turning it off, you just keep watching. 04:15.074 --> 04:20.838 [SPEAKER_04]: You say to yourself, I'm already a half hour in, I might as well keep going, maybe it'll get good. 04:21.558 --> 04:24.805 [SPEAKER_04]: and you'll watch that horrible movie until the very end. 04:27.113 --> 04:28.953 [SPEAKER_04]: that's sunk cost fallacy. 04:29.434 --> 04:36.315 [SPEAKER_04]: So maybe there's an element of sunk cost fallacy with these women who are like, I'm already calling a handyman over to have sex with me. 04:37.015 --> 04:38.195 [SPEAKER_04]: What's I want to film it now? 04:38.495 --> 04:39.116 [SPEAKER_04]: I want that done. 04:39.136 --> 04:40.196 [SPEAKER_01]: I've already crossed that line. 04:40.236 --> 04:41.196 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've crossed that line. 04:41.236 --> 04:42.056 [SPEAKER_04]: It's just a little further. 04:42.556 --> 04:44.817 [SPEAKER_04]: And they do they, what do they do with these videos? 04:45.117 --> 04:50.878 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, see, and that was their concern, you know, they were they were basically asking permission. 04:51.318 --> 04:52.518 [SPEAKER_01]: And I said that you can do whatever 04:55.379 --> 04:56.620 [SPEAKER_01]: what they're going to do with it. 04:56.660 --> 04:59.122 [SPEAKER_01]: But I imagine you have done what they're, I mean, there's a one on the show. 04:59.142 --> 05:02.125 [SPEAKER_01]: There's tons of videos out there and, you know, circulating. 05:03.166 --> 05:03.887 [SPEAKER_01]: I have no idea. 05:04.627 --> 05:04.928 [SPEAKER_04]: Wow. 05:05.028 --> 05:07.290 [SPEAKER_04]: So they might have an only fan's page and you have no idea. 05:07.550 --> 05:07.730 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 05:07.890 --> 05:10.613 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I've never, this sound strange. 05:10.653 --> 05:12.735 [SPEAKER_01]: I've never been, I've heard of only fans. 05:12.755 --> 05:15.737 [SPEAKER_01]: I've never been, I've never seen what an only fan's is. 05:15.757 --> 05:17.319 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't even, yeah. 05:17.599 --> 05:17.799 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 05:17.839 --> 05:18.460 [SPEAKER_01]: Are you on Instagram? 05:18.480 --> 05:19.821 [SPEAKER_01]: I have nothing to do with. 05:21.975 --> 05:22.696 [SPEAKER_01]: I literally have enough. 05:22.716 --> 05:24.277 [SPEAKER_01]: You have no social media, is there? 05:24.537 --> 05:32.663 [SPEAKER_04]: But the racey contents of Mickey's cell phone would definitely make for a lot of viral posts on all kinds of social media platforms. 05:33.444 --> 05:35.586 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm finding it hard to stop scrolling. 05:36.046 --> 05:38.488 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm handing Mickey back his phone right there, guys. 05:38.828 --> 05:39.649 [SPEAKER_04]: I think I've seen enough. 05:39.709 --> 05:40.670 [SPEAKER_04]: It looks like you're blushin'. 05:41.130 --> 05:41.971 [SPEAKER_04]: I totally am. 05:48.445 --> 05:51.406 [SPEAKER_04]: So after that second housewife called you. 05:51.466 --> 05:53.127 [SPEAKER_04]: So she answers the donor negligee. 05:53.167 --> 05:56.808 [SPEAKER_04]: So you know that she knows that you know that she knows it's going down. 05:57.608 --> 06:00.669 [SPEAKER_04]: After that whole thing, do you remember the third? 06:02.530 --> 06:05.611 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's kind of sad to say, I don't. 06:06.771 --> 06:10.513 [SPEAKER_01]: After that, it kind of, it was a world in kind of situation. 06:11.253 --> 06:16.755 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember the third from the hundredth or, yeah, it's, they pretty much kind of all, 06:18.134 --> 06:19.878 [SPEAKER_01]: mesh to new each other kind of thing. 06:20.540 --> 06:26.793 [SPEAKER_01]: I remember distinct situations in somewhere in between, up to the second one, it was, uh, 06:27.971 --> 06:49.736 [SPEAKER_01]: more women, more places, more, you know, it kind of started to get to a point that everything looked the same, you know, the women houses the situation, the intro, the, yeah, it pretty much followed the same script almost and I have no doubt that the first one started it all, you know, she told her friend, that friend told her friend, yeah, 06:50.718 --> 06:56.599 [SPEAKER_01]: because they pretty much all look the same, the setup, the calls, initial, mean, all of it. 06:56.899 --> 07:05.341 [SPEAKER_04]: There's actually a scientific reason for why Mickey can only remember his first two handyman sexual encounters and not the hundreds of others that followed. 07:05.881 --> 07:11.722 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a phenomenon called reduced memory encoding and it happens to all of us as we age. 07:12.263 --> 07:18.824 [SPEAKER_04]: Because adult life is less filled with novel events, the brain creates fewer unique memories. 07:19.364 --> 07:22.525 [SPEAKER_04]: When you're a kid, everything is new and exciting. 07:22.985 --> 07:26.547 [SPEAKER_04]: And your brain records details of every single new event. 07:27.147 --> 07:35.310 [SPEAKER_04]: But as you age and start doing the same thing over and over again, you don't remember all these women because it's kind of the same. 07:35.870 --> 07:41.432 [SPEAKER_04]: And to the door of blind, have sex, get money, go, and to the door of blind, so if nothing unusual happens. 07:42.345 --> 07:49.106 [SPEAKER_04]: what your brain does to save space, almost like a think of it, you're brain like a big computer and you don't want to take up all the space with junk. 07:49.726 --> 07:58.468 [SPEAKER_04]: So what your brain does to save space is it files away those routines as one clip, your brain has filed them away, kind of like this. 07:58.528 --> 07:59.748 [SPEAKER_01]: That actually makes sense. 07:59.848 --> 08:00.088 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 08:00.488 --> 08:04.289 [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to reason it to warn, you know, why am I forgetting all these words? 08:04.409 --> 08:08.790 [SPEAKER_01]: I just let that, I can't, you know, that I can't remember all these things. 08:09.547 --> 08:14.498 [SPEAKER_01]: I was trying to, you know, uh, making it together with my butt, but that makes sense. 08:14.799 --> 08:19.489 [SPEAKER_04]: But even as an adult, some days are still very memorable. 08:26.855 --> 08:28.336 [SPEAKER_04]: You had a birthday recently, have you brought that? 08:28.356 --> 08:28.636 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 08:28.736 --> 08:29.237 [SPEAKER_04]: You're 50. 08:29.537 --> 08:29.737 [SPEAKER_04]: I have. 08:29.857 --> 08:30.357 [SPEAKER_04]: Me too. 08:30.938 --> 08:31.959 [SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the 50s. 08:32.519 --> 08:33.700 [SPEAKER_01]: If you look at me, I don't look 50. 08:34.080 --> 08:35.061 [SPEAKER_01]: No, you don't look 50. 08:35.441 --> 08:38.183 [SPEAKER_01]: And the job that I have keeps him pretty good shape. 08:38.263 --> 08:41.585 [SPEAKER_04]: Because out in the oil field, that's like hard, effing work for 50 dollars. 08:41.705 --> 08:42.206 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, for 50 dollars. 08:42.226 --> 08:42.366 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 08:42.406 --> 08:49.551 [SPEAKER_04]: So, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's 08:50.267 --> 08:58.389 [SPEAKER_04]: But there are times working in the oil field, Mickey sits on his ass all day, waiting to work, waiting for the weather to clear. 08:58.989 --> 09:02.610 [SPEAKER_02]: It's up here to truck stop off FM 1788 here in Odessa. 09:02.690 --> 09:09.432 [SPEAKER_02]: This parking lot filled with snow and ice and its dangerous conditions that have a lot of these truck drivers hunker down for who knows how long. 09:09.632 --> 09:11.333 [SPEAKER_01]: It's no, it's no, they shut us down. 09:11.513 --> 09:12.413 [SPEAKER_01]: When is it warm up in the middle? 09:13.314 --> 09:35.915 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll warm up next week is a this is a freak storm that came through We shoot a well we there's oil there's oil for you and this if you didn't notice the price of oil last week or this week has gone up Considerably it was below sixty dollars a barrel and now it's like sixty-four And because we stopped production the winter storm couldn't we can track nothing happens to the oil oils, you know 09:36.736 --> 09:48.282 [SPEAKER_01]: It takes a thousand feet under, it's not going to be affected by the way they're up top, but the logistics of the trucks and the supplies that we get, they can't go on the roads, because they were ice-dove. 09:56.139 --> 10:01.724 [SPEAKER_04]: It's a delicate duality, the life of Mickey the oil fracker, moonlighting as a handyman jiggleau. 10:02.284 --> 10:24.662 [SPEAKER_04]: And as the years go by, and as Mickey develops this reputation in certain circles, certain secret circles in and around Midland, Texas, as this well-hung handyman who will seal your gaps for 200 bucks a pop, the premise for all of these West Texas housewives, inviting him into their homes, remains the same, pretext, 10:24.962 --> 10:28.508 [SPEAKER_04]: And all, no woman is calling saying, hey, can you come have sex with me? 10:28.848 --> 10:30.992 [SPEAKER_04]: They're all calling, hey, can you fix this, can you fix that? 10:31.452 --> 10:34.077 [SPEAKER_01]: And then it's always under the guise of or handyman work. 10:34.637 --> 10:38.283 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a rarity that I would actually go over and fix something. 10:38.363 --> 10:39.766 [SPEAKER_01]: I would need any tools that I brought. 10:40.627 --> 10:44.012 [SPEAKER_04]: But you always bring your tools, just because it is because it happened and I'm not going to assume. 10:44.292 --> 10:50.881 [SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the worst thing I wanted was to walk into a situation where it was a little legitimate job. 10:51.221 --> 10:55.987 [SPEAKER_01]: And I assumed the other and started, you know, making advances to be rebuffed. 10:56.027 --> 10:57.810 [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to put myself in that situation. 10:58.144 --> 11:04.688 [SPEAKER_04]: Again, he wasn't going to put himself in that situation again because it actually did happen. 11:05.268 --> 11:11.572 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, once that it was terrible because apparently she was just a very friendly lady. 11:17.615 --> 11:21.958 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a friendly hug when she opened the door to me. 11:23.697 --> 11:26.280 [SPEAKER_01]: And I took that as a sign, and apparently it was not. 11:27.061 --> 11:30.686 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we're going throughout her house. 11:30.726 --> 11:32.007 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, well, let me show you. 11:32.068 --> 11:33.169 [SPEAKER_01]: And she's walking ahead of me. 11:33.770 --> 11:35.512 [SPEAKER_01]: And I put my hand under her hip. 11:36.364 --> 11:42.568 [SPEAKER_01]: And I liked to touch and she turned around and slept my hand away and I was like, oh shit, I just fucked up. 11:42.868 --> 11:43.649 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god. 11:44.109 --> 11:47.451 [SPEAKER_01]: And she gave me this look and I was like, what's your hip or her butt? 11:47.851 --> 11:48.892 [SPEAKER_01]: It was very close. 11:49.412 --> 11:55.656 [SPEAKER_01]: It was a border and it was a light touch that shouldn't have happened because apparently that's not what was going on. 11:55.956 --> 11:57.337 [SPEAKER_01]: And I misread the situation. 11:57.617 --> 11:58.698 [SPEAKER_01]: She gave me a hug when I met her. 11:58.838 --> 11:59.519 [SPEAKER_01]: I know that is weird. 11:59.539 --> 12:00.619 [SPEAKER_04]: Like you don't hug the henny man. 12:00.659 --> 12:01.040 [SPEAKER_04]: Exactly. 12:01.060 --> 12:02.421 [SPEAKER_01]: Well apparently she did. 12:02.521 --> 12:03.281 [SPEAKER_01]: She's a hugger. 12:03.601 --> 12:04.422 [SPEAKER_04]: She's a hugger. 12:04.942 --> 12:07.104 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and so she slapped your hand away. 12:07.124 --> 12:07.885 [SPEAKER_01]: She slapped my hand away. 12:07.965 --> 12:09.706 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh my god, did she say anything? 12:09.886 --> 12:13.209 [SPEAKER_01]: She just looked at me like in shock, and I was like, I'm so sorry. 12:13.849 --> 12:15.170 [SPEAKER_01]: And Oh, you're the guy. 12:15.190 --> 12:15.871 [SPEAKER_01]: You apologized. 12:16.051 --> 12:17.152 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, because shit. 12:17.172 --> 12:17.873 [SPEAKER_01]: I was petrified. 12:18.413 --> 12:19.494 [SPEAKER_01]: So she might call the cops. 12:19.534 --> 12:19.994 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 12:20.194 --> 12:20.555 [SPEAKER_01]: She's us. 12:20.975 --> 12:29.082 [SPEAKER_01]: And then so, you know, she I guess Accepted the apology and just kind of gave gave me a look and we I actually 12:30.113 --> 12:34.256 [SPEAKER_01]: did the work that she needed done, but yeah, it was awkward to say at least. 12:34.836 --> 12:36.197 [SPEAKER_01]: I mistred that really badly. 12:36.217 --> 12:37.238 [SPEAKER_01]: Never happening yet after that. 12:37.258 --> 12:40.320 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I will never make that first move ever again. 12:41.061 --> 12:48.266 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I was, yeah, I was, it was probably, you know, maybe a dozen, a couple dozen women in. 12:48.786 --> 12:50.027 [SPEAKER_04]: So I just got comfortable. 12:50.127 --> 12:54.550 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I thought I needed to lay in the land and I was like, I kind of, I don't know what's going on. 12:54.570 --> 12:57.812 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I was, I was mistaken at that time. 12:59.145 --> 12:59.606 [SPEAKER_01]: regrettable. 13:00.347 --> 13:03.551 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I have the gay counterpart to that story. 13:05.374 --> 13:06.055 [SPEAKER_04]: It happened to me. 13:07.217 --> 13:09.300 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, my husband works at this. 13:10.301 --> 13:12.304 [SPEAKER_04]: There are a lot of these fancy events. 13:13.085 --> 13:14.046 [SPEAKER_04]: And I was at one of them. 13:14.086 --> 13:14.928 [SPEAKER_04]: This was years ago. 13:17.021 --> 13:23.265 [SPEAKER_04]: And my husband was wearing a suit like a dark suit and he was at the party. 13:23.285 --> 13:26.226 [SPEAKER_04]: He said hello to me and he was like working and I was just talking to people. 13:26.947 --> 13:30.929 [SPEAKER_04]: And I saw my husband standing like by the bar from behind. 13:31.629 --> 13:32.390 [SPEAKER_04]: So I know it's him. 13:32.830 --> 13:37.313 [SPEAKER_04]: So I go up and I put my hand on his butt like to say hi like it's me. 13:38.153 --> 13:42.436 [SPEAKER_04]: And it wasn't my husband, he turns around, he's like, oh my god, I'm so sorry. 13:42.476 --> 13:49.861 [SPEAKER_04]: I thought you were some point out of the self, you know, at my hand on the stranger's butt for five seconds, like grabbing it. 13:49.881 --> 13:50.121 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 13:50.561 --> 13:51.382 [SPEAKER_04]: So I know how you feel. 13:51.422 --> 13:53.723 [SPEAKER_04]: Like, whoa, I'm not, and that's the same thing I thought. 13:53.763 --> 13:54.964 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm never doing that again. 13:55.304 --> 13:56.265 [SPEAKER_04]: I'm never assuming. 13:56.905 --> 13:57.085 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 13:57.105 --> 13:59.467 [SPEAKER_04]: So I'm looking them in the eyes, you know, because that my husband. 14:00.227 --> 14:03.950 [SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, that is a crazy feeling of like the terror that you're violated somewhat. 14:04.070 --> 14:04.290 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 14:05.440 --> 14:06.621 [SPEAKER_04]: Luckily she didn't call the cops. 14:06.961 --> 14:09.843 [SPEAKER_01]: Luckily because I was petrified that that was what was going to happen. 14:10.343 --> 14:13.365 [SPEAKER_04]: But then you double down like I'm not, I'm letting them touch me. 14:13.385 --> 14:14.026 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, always. 14:14.906 --> 14:19.529 [SPEAKER_01]: I always stand back and assume, hey, this is a legitimate inquiry. 14:19.949 --> 14:23.131 [SPEAKER_01]: They need something fixed until I learn otherwise. 14:27.494 --> 14:30.076 [SPEAKER_04]: Has there ever been a housewife who changed her mind? 14:31.766 --> 14:41.050 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, I think the closest I've come to that is women who've made an appointment and canceled before I even got there. 14:41.450 --> 14:47.553 [SPEAKER_01]: So I've had several of those, you know, they changed their mind, they get cold feet, they, you know, like, what am I doing, kind of, you know, I mean, it's kind of confusing. 14:47.813 --> 14:53.556 [SPEAKER_01]: But every time I've actually arrived at a place, it's gone, it's gone. 14:54.412 --> 14:55.412 [SPEAKER_01]: to completion that's there. 14:55.812 --> 15:05.455 [SPEAKER_04]: And in some cases before that point of completion is reached in the heat of the moment, these housewives start biting off more than they can chew. 15:10.836 --> 15:14.677 [SPEAKER_04]: Is anal sex with women like do they want anal sex? 15:15.117 --> 15:19.418 [SPEAKER_01]: Some have requested and I always try to dissuade them from that notion. 15:21.912 --> 15:22.872 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, obvious reason. 15:22.892 --> 15:27.953 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm telling him, like this is not going to end well for you, you know. 15:27.973 --> 15:38.095 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah, I try to, as much as I can, this way from that notion that this will not be something that they'll enjoy. 15:38.375 --> 15:39.575 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is going to be painful. 15:39.855 --> 15:42.095 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know, I'm all about giving pleasure. 15:42.115 --> 15:43.856 [SPEAKER_01]: And this will not be pleasurable for you. 15:44.436 --> 15:45.936 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, if even possible. 15:46.076 --> 15:48.997 [SPEAKER_04]: So they went along anyway and you tried to put it in a couple. 15:49.377 --> 15:51.137 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you couldn't get it in. 15:51.790 --> 15:55.633 [SPEAKER_01]: Now, it was just what I had told them. 15:55.693 --> 15:58.396 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is going to be an ordeal. 15:58.836 --> 16:00.978 [SPEAKER_01]: The visual is Coca-Cola can thickness. 16:01.218 --> 16:03.980 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, and the problem is, it's like that from tip to shaft. 16:04.161 --> 16:08.784 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not like, you know, the problem, you know, it's a, there's a shaft. 16:09.205 --> 16:10.766 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's thick from beginning to end. 16:11.146 --> 16:15.190 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, yeah, there is no point while OK, at least two tips. 16:15.450 --> 16:18.172 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's, tips, just as big as the rest of it. 16:19.153 --> 16:31.490 [SPEAKER_04]: So have there been any women who've gone ahead of any way and got it in one one and did she enjoy it eventually or did she did I guess that was her thing And she had done it before yeah, but yeah, she was like framed. 16:32.031 --> 16:34.975 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but initially she still struggled you know it took long 16:35.836 --> 16:41.978 [SPEAKER_01]: and it was a very small stepping, you know, like, millimeter by millimeter. 16:41.998 --> 16:44.639 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like, okay, wait, wait, oh, and she had to breathe. 16:44.759 --> 16:51.701 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, a little more than, yeah, she was determined, she eventually took it off, but it took a, it was a minute before we got to that point. 16:52.461 --> 16:55.002 [SPEAKER_01]: Once I was fully in though, then she took like a child. 16:58.055 --> 17:09.605 [SPEAKER_04]: And while these housewives who hire Mickey have a lot in common, and essentially all want the same thing from him, there are outliers worth mentioning who want other things entirely. 17:10.246 --> 17:14.029 [SPEAKER_04]: I imagine you get a lot of weird requests, several weird words. 17:14.289 --> 17:15.310 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, give me some weird ones. 17:15.350 --> 17:18.972 [SPEAKER_04]: What's a strange thing a woman ever asked you to do or play or be? 17:19.032 --> 17:21.514 [SPEAKER_01]: The weird one was it was very strange. 17:21.955 --> 17:27.018 [SPEAKER_01]: She wanted me to be daddy and she was a naughty school girl, but she was much older than I was. 17:27.078 --> 17:29.320 [SPEAKER_01]: So that was kind of odd, you know? 17:29.520 --> 17:30.180 [SPEAKER_04]: I was she. 17:30.541 --> 17:31.321 [SPEAKER_01]: She was in her 60s. 17:32.742 --> 17:33.763 [SPEAKER_04]: She wanted you to be her daddy. 17:33.843 --> 17:35.684 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and she she done bad. 17:35.724 --> 17:36.805 [SPEAKER_01]: She wanted to be disciplined. 17:36.845 --> 17:39.047 [SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I'm okay with role play. 17:39.167 --> 17:41.368 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's two point to an extent. 17:41.449 --> 17:43.030 [SPEAKER_01]: There's certain things where I draw the line. 17:43.590 --> 17:50.812 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, that one was odd because she was really old and, you know, some people don't age well, she did not age well. 17:53.445 --> 17:56.748 [SPEAKER_01]: She was probably in her sixties easily looked in her seventies. 17:57.049 --> 17:57.389 [SPEAKER_01]: Wow. 17:57.810 --> 17:59.111 [SPEAKER_04]: And what do you do in that situation? 17:59.151 --> 17:59.952 [SPEAKER_04]: Can you perform? 18:00.472 --> 18:02.414 [SPEAKER_04]: It's it's a little bit more difficult. 18:03.095 --> 18:06.499 [SPEAKER_01]: But I got to put my all women are attractive in one way or another. 18:06.779 --> 18:13.065 [SPEAKER_01]: I got to find that that attractiveness in that person because there's always going to be something, you know. 18:14.579 --> 18:15.359 [SPEAKER_01]: that I can go to. 18:16.100 --> 18:16.920 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, hopefully. 18:17.180 --> 18:17.940 [SPEAKER_01]: And focus on it. 18:18.040 --> 18:18.901 [SPEAKER_01]: And focus on it. 18:18.921 --> 18:23.702 [SPEAKER_04]: So you can get an erection even with a 70 something year old woman you got an erection and performed. 18:24.003 --> 18:24.143 [SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm. 18:24.343 --> 18:24.963 [SPEAKER_04]: Did you finish? 18:25.503 --> 18:25.623 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 18:25.903 --> 18:26.583 [SPEAKER_04]: You didn't finish. 18:26.824 --> 18:27.544 [SPEAKER_01]: And they'd be finished. 18:27.684 --> 18:28.364 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she finishes. 18:28.484 --> 18:29.164 [SPEAKER_01]: They always finish. 18:29.304 --> 18:35.467 [SPEAKER_01]: And I sometimes actually, I say 50% of the time I don't win when you're working. 18:35.647 --> 18:35.847 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 18:36.622 --> 18:56.392 [SPEAKER_01]: yeah i'm focused on their pleasure you know i'm there to you know make their fantasy come true you know i i could care less what's going on for myself i'm not i'm not there for myself you know as most guys in most situations are you know they're concerned about getting theirs and getting out but it's you know you're the opposite i mean i came to give pleasure and get out yeah 18:56.952 --> 19:00.055 [SPEAKER_01]: and whether I get or not, I'm gonna get it in one way or another. 19:00.135 --> 19:02.877 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm receiving pleasure just, you know, being intimate with someone. 19:03.197 --> 19:03.878 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're having money. 19:04.338 --> 19:04.998 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that helps. 19:06.620 --> 19:10.603 [SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'd say about 50% of the time I never finished. 19:11.023 --> 19:11.203 [SPEAKER_01]: So. 19:17.288 --> 19:19.690 [SPEAKER_04]: So you show up and you're not immediately attracted. 19:19.850 --> 19:20.431 [SPEAKER_04]: What do you do? 19:22.462 --> 19:26.685 [SPEAKER_01]: I go forward and see where it leads because I don't know their intentions at first. 19:27.706 --> 19:33.290 [SPEAKER_01]: I have a pretty good idea of their intentions, but I always wait to see and I see how it unfolds. 19:33.490 --> 19:46.399 [SPEAKER_01]: Even someone that's not particularly attractive at first physically, the situation may become like it's a hot situation, the way they set it up, the way they set it up, the way they 19:47.560 --> 19:51.382 [SPEAKER_01]: If it's a subduction kind of scene, then yeah, that could be hot in itself. 19:51.563 --> 19:51.823 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 19:52.123 --> 19:55.965 [SPEAKER_01]: Regardless of the subject, you know, it aid helps. 19:56.305 --> 19:56.906 [SPEAKER_01]: It definitely helps. 19:57.746 --> 20:01.309 [SPEAKER_01]: And that's a situation, it helps because she want to do it not in a little school girl thing. 20:01.329 --> 20:04.911 [SPEAKER_01]: And she had a sex with her out with it, it didn't belong on her, but yeah. 20:06.712 --> 20:07.813 [SPEAKER_04]: But you got to turn you on. 20:07.893 --> 20:08.193 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah. 20:10.245 --> 20:13.408 [SPEAKER_04]: That is kind of a beautiful thing, and a profound thing you said just now. 20:14.429 --> 20:15.911 [SPEAKER_04]: Every woman has something about them. 20:15.931 --> 20:16.571 [SPEAKER_04]: That's beautiful. 20:16.712 --> 20:20.896 [SPEAKER_04]: And you just try to find that thing and focus on that, and that turns you on. 20:21.456 --> 20:21.837 [SPEAKER_04]: Definitely. 20:22.321 --> 20:27.765 [SPEAKER_04]: Well, you should write a book, man, or give like couples counseling, but that's a beautiful and it's true. 20:27.805 --> 20:39.335 [SPEAKER_01]: If you focus on the good, you can find the the biggest problem I see is people aren't honest and they might have these repress fantasies, they might have all these thoughts, but they won't admit to them. 20:39.535 --> 20:45.400 [SPEAKER_01]: So you can't you can't have a therapeutic, you know, catharsis, 20:46.100 --> 21:07.050 [SPEAKER_01]: without being honest with yourself, with your partner and that's why so many couples are unhappy and they have to turn to someone like me that will, hey, I'm going to live on my fantasy with you because I don't know him, it's impersonal, it's random, it's anonymous versus I can't talk to the person I live with every day, which is sad, but that's kind of how it is. 21:07.110 --> 21:08.070 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, it is. 21:08.210 --> 21:08.670 [SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely. 21:09.311 --> 21:11.872 [SPEAKER_01]: So I can be a therapist but no one listens so. 21:17.004 --> 21:29.688 [SPEAKER_04]: And while Mickey is happy to play therapist or play a daddy punishing a 70-year-old school girl, there are things he refuses to do, and boundaries he does not cross. 21:33.512 --> 21:39.076 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I have just a very short list of rules that I have that I will not do. 21:39.236 --> 21:40.057 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not into pain. 21:40.097 --> 21:41.918 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not into growth stuff. 21:41.938 --> 21:42.799 [SPEAKER_01]: And what's gross? 21:43.320 --> 21:49.985 [SPEAKER_01]: Gross stuff is like a skat or golden showers or skin poop. 21:50.425 --> 21:52.707 [SPEAKER_04]: Pain, women want to be peed and pooped on. 21:53.047 --> 21:53.547 [SPEAKER_01]: MP. 21:54.368 --> 21:56.830 [SPEAKER_01]: I will make an exception if we're in a shower setting. 21:59.007 --> 22:02.048 [SPEAKER_01]: is like because even that's kind of weird to me. 22:02.088 --> 22:09.390 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, you know, someone, I piss on my face and like, okay, you know, I don't know what that does for you, but I'll do it in a shower. 22:09.430 --> 22:10.470 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not gonna do it on your bed. 22:10.510 --> 22:13.031 [SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, that's, I mean, I have sex on the same bed. 22:13.091 --> 22:14.012 [SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not gonna happen. 22:14.072 --> 22:14.932 [SPEAKER_04]: I agree. 22:14.992 --> 22:17.032 [SPEAKER_04]: That grosses me out too, but there are people into it. 22:17.052 --> 22:17.513 [SPEAKER_01]: There is. 22:17.833 --> 22:20.674 [SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, yes, sorry, I don't do that. 22:21.054 --> 22:23.694 [SPEAKER_01]: And pain, you know, people like, I want you to hurt me. 22:23.734 --> 22:25.255 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, yeah, I'm not gonna hurt you. 22:25.695 --> 22:41.332 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm all about pleasure and some women want like choking, spanking, hair pulling that kind of stuff and how did you find light choking like choking is you're not leaving any marks, you know, you're losing their neck not squeezing so that's that's where people it's 22:41.893 --> 22:43.094 [SPEAKER_01]: And I had to learn this. 22:43.114 --> 22:44.556 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, teach me how to choke a little. 22:44.576 --> 22:47.879 [SPEAKER_01]: So, Mickey, you have your your hand never squeezes. 22:48.179 --> 22:52.223 [SPEAKER_01]: It's an open hand and you're just applying pressure on the mask. 22:52.543 --> 22:54.945 [SPEAKER_01]: You're just using your body weight to apply pressure. 22:55.206 --> 22:57.528 [SPEAKER_01]: You're not squeezing and choking them actually. 22:57.548 --> 22:58.449 [SPEAKER_01]: You're just kind of. 22:59.484 --> 23:01.866 [SPEAKER_01]: cutting off airway to a to an extent. 23:02.767 --> 23:05.650 [SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it's it's for whatever reason. 23:05.710 --> 23:08.392 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a large percentage of women who like that. 23:08.632 --> 23:09.053 [SPEAKER_01]: Really. 23:09.093 --> 23:09.833 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 23:10.134 --> 23:10.854 [SPEAKER_01]: Large, large. 23:10.914 --> 23:15.298 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say easily 75% of the women have asked for that. 23:15.618 --> 23:17.420 [SPEAKER_01]: For light choking or like choking choking. 23:17.440 --> 23:18.341 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they say choking. 23:18.741 --> 23:19.202 [SPEAKER_04]: Right. 23:19.522 --> 23:20.142 [SPEAKER_04]: You're going to stop. 23:20.182 --> 23:21.043 [SPEAKER_04]: You're not going to like choking. 23:21.063 --> 23:21.243 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 23:21.263 --> 23:23.465 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to like, yeah, no one's passing out. 23:23.806 --> 23:24.026 [SPEAKER_04]: Yeah. 23:26.545 --> 23:26.965 [SPEAKER_01]: Who knew? 23:26.985 --> 23:28.126 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't know. 23:28.586 --> 23:29.407 [SPEAKER_01]: Midland taxes. 23:30.087 --> 23:30.988 [SPEAKER_01]: It's everywhere, actually. 23:31.188 --> 23:37.693 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just like the microcosm of Midland was where I was exposed to it all. 23:37.873 --> 23:44.317 [SPEAKER_01]: But as I've traveled and been in different areas, it's the same everywhere. 23:44.537 --> 23:45.238 [SPEAKER_01]: It's the same everywhere. 23:45.258 --> 23:48.260 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just more repressed in other places and others. 23:48.580 --> 23:52.823 [SPEAKER_04]: But have you had requests from women that you said, no, I'm not doing that? 23:52.883 --> 23:53.563 [SPEAKER_04]: Yes. 23:53.603 --> 23:54.404 [SPEAKER_04]: Give me some examples. 23:58.361 --> 24:00.143 [SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I wanted you to punch her in the head. 24:00.183 --> 24:01.765 [SPEAKER_04]: And the head, she's like, punch me in the back of the head. 24:02.045 --> 24:04.948 [SPEAKER_04]: Coloquially, it's called a donkey punch. 24:05.569 --> 24:15.801 [SPEAKER_04]: A phrase that originates from a 1920s slang term for someone using a small steam-powered logging wench called a donkey that they punch to operate. 24:16.261 --> 24:17.962 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I am not going to do that. 24:18.783 --> 24:20.404 [SPEAKER_01]: She's like, it's okay, I want you to. 24:20.484 --> 24:23.867 [SPEAKER_04]: Like while you're, while you're doggy style, punch her in the back of the head. 24:23.927 --> 24:25.248 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's what she wanted. 24:25.268 --> 24:27.230 [SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. 24:27.450 --> 24:29.572 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm not, that's, that's not my thing. 24:29.592 --> 24:30.352 [SPEAKER_01]: What do you call you? 24:30.933 --> 24:35.016 [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I shouldn't judge, but that sounds crazy to me. 24:35.036 --> 24:36.217 [SPEAKER_04]: Just because it sounds painful. 24:36.337 --> 24:37.678 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was like, why would I do that? 24:37.698 --> 24:39.099 [SPEAKER_01]: Would you get out of that? 24:39.660 --> 24:40.961 [SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I don't, I don't do that. 24:42.060 --> 24:42.781 [SPEAKER_04]: was she upset? 24:43.261 --> 24:58.632 [SPEAKER_01]: She was, you know, she's like, please, you know, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, she's, 24:59.209 --> 25:02.330 [SPEAKER_01]: This is obviously something you're into that I'm not going to do that. 25:03.911 --> 25:13.314 [SPEAKER_04]: So, next time on the Handy Man of West Texas, we'll explain exactly why some of these housewives would want to be punched in the back of the head during sex. 25:14.014 --> 25:19.376 [SPEAKER_04]: And we'll get into a bunch of other crazy stuff that happens to Mickey, on and off the job. 25:20.036 --> 25:24.997 [SPEAKER_04]: Have you ever seen any of these housewives or their husbands in public after? 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