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[UNKNOWN]: Back in the studios, just you and I. Tonight you're a Perry.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I know we've had a, we've had a great run with some wonderful guests and you've hooked visiting us here in the studios.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I capped off last week with TJ who.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just another one of these people.
[UNKNOWN]: Every person we have come in here, I could sit and listen to talk for hours.
[UNKNOWN]: For sure, and we do.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we do.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, I know we could have gone on and on and on.
[UNKNOWN]: The camera started yelling at us at the end of the fifth segment and that was it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we had to make kind of a wrap it out.
[UNKNOWN]: That was it.
[UNKNOWN]: So we usually the fifth segment doesn't last out.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, no, usually we, we high-tell it out here.
[UNKNOWN]: We know we're about ready to go off to Asselville.
[UNKNOWN]: So we got to get the bed before we do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, we don't want to fall off that cliff, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's not pretty, but that was great.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, it was great.
[UNKNOWN]: We do have the one and only Lulu Brissady joining us here and a little bit, but of course, we are going to start off a little bit, but what's going on in the AI world, since we are early in the end of a chance to...
[UNKNOWN]: There's not much happening in the world.
[UNKNOWN]: Not at all, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's just close, I don't remember.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's start with the biggest headline of the week, and that is Space X going public Friday.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how about Eric found the the prospectus and send it over for us to read, which I did not.
[UNKNOWN]: I was so busy this week, I didn't have to write anything, but it's still pretty cool, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, there's next week, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's Friday.
[UNKNOWN]: That's this week.
[UNKNOWN]: I know the 12th, they're releasing, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: $75 billion worth of shares valued at when the company being valued at $1.75 trillion.
[UNKNOWN]: a lot of speculation going on right now that's a it's going to be a good thing or bad thing you know because Elon did lose a couple things you know he lost all of his founders all 11 of them that's a big deal he lost the open AI suit which really didn't have much to do with him financially other than the fact opening AI is still significant competitor he still owns that chunk of the business right for today buy him out
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's a good question.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how that is framed if that was just a pure donation.
[UNKNOWN]: Because if it was, that's just another probably God knows how many billions in this pocket.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, what's that worth right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure he's written that on too.
[UNKNOWN]: Will he be in New York to ring a bell Friday?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's a good question.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I would think that would make a lot of sense.
[UNKNOWN]: None of his founders will be at least not with SpaceX either in New York or the NASDAQ depending on which exchange they're they're getting released at, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So I would have to think probably NASDAQ.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would think that's kind of the tech tech block.
[UNKNOWN]: But yeah, I'll be fun to watch the roller coaster ride.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to probably partake.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to sit back from afar and watch the show happen.
[UNKNOWN]: But whoever's getting in on it, I'm sure it's going to be a fun
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm gambling my entire retirement on it screw it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going all in on space.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I'm flying all my chips You know what you want to wait to open a eye because they filed their papers do last week.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm kidding I kind of confident you haven't confidentially.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, confidentially, but everybody knows Yeah, I am about as savvy with buying and selling stocks as I am with writing software
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but if I were to say, you know, buy this, then you should sell it if I say, don't buy it, you probably should buy it.
[UNKNOWN]: Just do the opposite, it's kind of like the, I don't know about that.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, there's a, I'm not a good stock trader.
[UNKNOWN]: I learned that a long time ago was a valuable lesson.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, you got to have pretty thick, thick skin and the ability to weigh it out.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just would obsess about it.
[UNKNOWN]: So it wasn't fun.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's why crypto is really more of your speed.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this is more of my speed.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a ball.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, because it changes all.
[UNKNOWN]: It is because you know it's going to be that way.
[UNKNOWN]: So you're not expecting it to be anything else, but that's all.
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of an expectation level, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's just kind of fun.
[UNKNOWN]: I look at it almost like gambling.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: That's that's you know that's the that's the biggest headlines now you and I were talking a little bit about anthropic making headlines too now they're they've also supposedly filed for their IPO so it won't be too long when you know they're being valued at now close to a billion dollars after their latest trillion or truly not I keep saying that you know billions nothing I know it's just nothing it's like the old million right so
[UNKNOWN]: They're they're they're valued close to a trillion dollars after their latest level.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was series age raised that they had they raised about sixty five billion valued at nine hundred and sixty eight billion These numbers just escape my comprehension
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, it's crazy and you can see where they're making their money.
[UNKNOWN]: I told you those APIs were zingin' and Microsoft had to put the brakes on and tell everybody you're done.
[UNKNOWN]: Uber spent their whole budget for the whole year and three and a half months on those APIs.
[UNKNOWN]: So everybody's getting that one company spent, I think they got a bill after one month for 500 million.
[UNKNOWN]: I wonder if they had a pit.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you call them up and say, I didn't authorize this.
[UNKNOWN]: We thought we had unlimited usage.
[UNKNOWN]: What is this?
[UNKNOWN]: What are these secret?
[UNKNOWN]: I thought Joe Biden did away with all these secret charges.
[UNKNOWN]: So what do you call them?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I appreciate what he call them.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, something tells me anthropic and now owns a part of that company.
[UNKNOWN]: probably a good chance, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, and it's making a wish.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we mentioned it before, though, OpenAI is has a program out there right now where they're willing to give up to $2 million in API, you know, the same kind of thing that we're talking about with anthropic, in exchange for value and new startups.
[UNKNOWN]: So if they find your startup to be worthy,
[UNKNOWN]: Nah, it's their way of investing in you if you're an AI company and you're in need of or utilizing AI.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[UNKNOWN]: Interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: Great.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a great way to kind of diversify without having to spend the full dollar to get the investment.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's smart.
[UNKNOWN]: I like it we'll see where you know what comes out of it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: See Gus is an active tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: He's he's actually sitting next to me doesn't you want to be in the he's back in the bourbon bed Yeah, he came over and said hi to me when I came I don't know he was missing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know hey, bud.
[UNKNOWN]: What's up?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so somebody who doesn't step on this foot.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, yeah, you know, Gus he's pretty good.
[UNKNOWN]: He'll go in the pretty good yelp on last week's episode.
[UNKNOWN]: That was a good yelp.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, anthropic, we are talking in the news here, well, what about a month and a half two months ago about mythos and how a powerful this platform was that when they came out they said they couldn't release it because it had the capability of basically diagnosing anybody's infrastructure and finding the weaknesses.
[UNKNOWN]: So the vulnerability, you know, if you want to use the technical terms and expose them.
[UNKNOWN]: So on the same token, what they decided to do is start this glass tower glass wings.
[UNKNOWN]: I think this glass wing project, it was called, where they brought in the top 5, 6 tech companies and said, here, try it out.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to give you a free trial, see what it exposes for you.
[UNKNOWN]: It's kind of the Bill Gates method, right?
[UNKNOWN]: and you can also use it as a defense, and they did, and I think it's been pretty successful.
[UNKNOWN]: It's helped expose, I think, that company was Axios, that it showed that it had vulnerabilities as well.
[UNKNOWN]: They, you know, then they're, then they're CTL, I'm kind of going in and back steps here because it's I find it a little bit contradictory.
[UNKNOWN]: You and I were talking about a little bit earlier today, you know, they said, well, we can't release it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's too powerful.
[UNKNOWN]: And it gets in the wrong hands.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be, you know, it's going to be a really bad thing.
[UNKNOWN]: So I also got the government's attention, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So I think you brought them back to the table to where they're, they're kind of deal secretly or they're, you know, offered that a lot of the doubt.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're off that, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: that bad list, you know, that the government put them on for the Department of War.
[UNKNOWN]: I was pretty short-lived, considering the grudges that these people tend to.
[UNKNOWN]: I hear it.
[UNKNOWN]: So they, now where they decide, you know, this week, this past week, they released, basically mythos kind of packaged up with a bow on it.
[UNKNOWN]: and they're calling it fable five and it dropped yesterday uh... remind everybody what might those well might those is that very powerful platform that has the capabilities according to their engineers to be able to crack the code crack the code basically i mean if you're talking and they can get into the vulnerabilities of eighty percent eighty percent or more of these i mean we're not talking about
[UNKNOWN]: companies that don't have cyber security measures.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they have significant cyber security measures.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they're state of the article.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, you're talking about the best of the best.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's a scary thought.
[UNKNOWN]: And we talked about that with quantum, but at least you can kick that can down the road for the time being, but we don't know how quickly that's coming around the corner, too.
[UNKNOWN]: So they release it, they put a bow tie and say, well, we made it, we made this safe.
[UNKNOWN]: Of course I did, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So sure.
[UNKNOWN]: and that's also coming on the on the heels of their co-founder last week's scene.
[UNKNOWN]: We need to put the brakes on the entire AI system.
[UNKNOWN]: Because when it starts thinking for itself and it starts moving on beyond for itself,
[UNKNOWN]: I'm proving, Dario, this is the co-founder.
[UNKNOWN]: So I should have his name in front of me, but I don't, I'll look it up.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he, I'm vanthropic, yeah, he came out last week so we need to be able to put the brakes on and tell that time and I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: I've been saying it all along.
[UNKNOWN]: It said, if we don't have that kill switch, where we know for sure we can shut it off, then it could literally get out of control and it could be that, that could be that terminator's in our situation, how do we regain control of it?
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see, you know, it's a little scary.
[UNKNOWN]: It is a little scary and it's a little contradictory in my opinion.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you've taken the stance that you want to be responsible, but then now you're essentially released the mythos out there.
[UNKNOWN]: And again, it hasn't been out there long enough to know if it's, if it does have the capabilities that they were talking about, even with the governor, you know, governed, ner, I don't
[UNKNOWN]: You talking about the version.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Jack Clark.
[UNKNOWN]: Jack Clark.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: So I didn't really was Dario and his wife Danielle.
[UNKNOWN]: She's a co-founder too.
[UNKNOWN]: I assume that's his wife versus sister.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I have to look that up.
[UNKNOWN]: Smart team though, Jared Kaplan, Sam McKandlish.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Chris Ola and Tom Brown.
[UNKNOWN]: Those were all very very co-founders.
[UNKNOWN]: All former open AI.
[UNKNOWN]: Very talented.
[UNKNOWN]: Very talented group.
[UNKNOWN]: You
[UNKNOWN]: He picked an all-star team because you don't get to where you are at this quickly.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no way.
[UNKNOWN]: It makes a big impression on folks that are very, you know, one of the early episodes, very particular about what they do.
[UNKNOWN]: And one of the early episodes of this show, you guys talked about how he went from basically being zero value to
[UNKNOWN]: three hundred billion or something and like and what was it three years quick two years how's been the three year period yeah that's crazy you why can't I do that right I want to figure out way to do that well you you you crack the code too for everything you know it's it's the bill gets formula right all of a sudden they start throwing money at you because they got to protect the you know their treasure you know it's the scary scary thought and so all of a sudden he's he's not the competitors of of always tech partners he's their best friend to keep them protected from
[UNKNOWN]: Well, whether it's his platform right now or somebody else's platform down the line even, this open code and this open sourcing reverse engineering, you know, it can all be replicated in time into some degree, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So, and any know, there's other bright brains out there that are coming out with, you know, as good if not better stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: So, it's a concern
[UNKNOWN]: I think the companies that have the ability to formulate that are going to be really fun to kind of watch, especially if they're publicly traded, are going to be the ones that are the cybersecurity companies at the forefront of this, who's going to be the next, you know, McAfrey, McAfrey, or, you know, Norton is norton going to be capable of defending this stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, these companies developing the AI, LLMs are going to certainly put these people to the
[UNKNOWN]: it's a little it's a little concerning a little bit like I don't work in an industry where the information that we move or store is necessarily of high value to anybody but you know somebody in finance or banking I mean my god is that's scary and going through all these entries and I've been editing you know all the backfill entries that we you know we start the database on January 1st and it's uh...
[UNKNOWN]: it's amazing all these different laws that are out there Perry that are talking about disclosures what you have to do how you know we talked about you know it's now in many states that they have laws that are on the books or that are pending or that have been passed that that say you know and we didn't even talk about that you know what about with like uh made up child porn
[UNKNOWN]: It is illegal.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And a lot of Marseign, yes.
[UNKNOWN]: And who do you go after?
[UNKNOWN]: Did you go after the AI company?
[UNKNOWN]: Did you go after the person that, well, queued it to do it?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I think you're probably going after both, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, if the AI company had or should have had reasonable notice of knowing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: But for me, there were a software package.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That could jail all the stuff in the one place, like, I don't know, docket daily or something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: are you talking about the laws, yeah, and a lot of me's a carry some pretty stiff fines.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there's a couple that, you know, operators can hit with half a million to million dollars and fines, you know, for
[UNKNOWN]: what they use as intentional and intentional may be intentional may not be maybe gross negligence should have known you know yeah and then you know how that works once one goes through there'll be a avalanche of lawsuits for everything yeah and we're seeing that already get tested out in the European Union is as that you know those laws have rolled out this year slowly in a part by part and they're more strictly and they're they're very strict but uh some of the states are following
[UNKNOWN]: you know they're they're following much much like the European Union and what they're trying to pass on the state level.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, yeah, it's going to be going to be interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: It is interesting for everybody I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to get back to talking about the platforms and you know, before we, you know, we're also going to talk about the bourbon when Louis gets here, but we got a good bourbon tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: It's one of my favorites.
[UNKNOWN]: It's whistlepig.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep, I don't know that I've had maybe I had a bourbon club, but I have a bottle of that.
[UNKNOWN]: Ronically, I want a basket raffle.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I told you at the office last year it was a fundraiser for Fortfooted friends and good one if they had that out there.
[UNKNOWN]: I put probably a hundred bucks worth of tickets in there I was bound with the terminals going to win it, but there's probably I mean it was some pretty nice top shelf stuff awesome and That was and I thought the chicken cock I brought that's where that came from nice There's a bottle piggyback.
[UNKNOWN]: There's I guess it for bourbons
[UNKNOWN]: There might have been, oh, it's a bottle of Jameson, Irish whiskey, that's a bunch of, but it's always good too, yeah, but a bomb based sapphire stuff like that.
[UNKNOWN]: Like all top shelf stuff, nice.
[UNKNOWN]: So I haven't tried it, but I'm well over to it.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to try it together tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be, I think it's going to be, you're going to like it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just one of my favorites.
[UNKNOWN]: getting back a little bit of me even just talking you know we could probably even start over and start talking about cloth all over again because it's changed like we're just saying I know you know with my those coming out and I was playing with it and I'll leave it on this I was playing with yesterday and asked it to look at my platform and dissect it and tell me any vulnerabilities of course and then secondly
[UNKNOWN]: Tell me any improvements to the, to the structure and the work flows to make it more reliable and accurate and Sure enough, it punched, gave me a punch list of 12 things and we implemented them within half or 45 minutes and it was so is it being used?
[UNKNOWN]: So can you use it as a hey test this out for me and tell me where am I, you know, where am I vulnerable these are?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, it's just like chatting around hands chat all right in the chat chat box
[UNKNOWN]: So what my, my exact words were hate.
[UNKNOWN]: I want you to diagnose my workflow pipeline, my daily scrapers and I want you to look and see if there's anything that you would tighten up or harden or improve to make sure that the reliability and the accuracy is gonna be something I can count on every day and not have any failures.
[UNKNOWN]: And it didn't went through and it gave me
[UNKNOWN]: really good points on it and I actually read the whole list before I said go ahead and do it.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, sometimes you're like, I'm about you're a lot smarter than me.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't let me question you.
[UNKNOWN]: But I just wanted to really kind of go through it very carefully and see what different this model is suggesting versus my daily conversations that I've been having with composer 2.5 and I believe it's it's the 4.8.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's there right at the tip of my tongue.
[UNKNOWN]: All these different names, I don't even know how you can keep track of the version numbers.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so and again, you can only get so many tokens.
[UNKNOWN]: So I, it actually worked perfectly, Perry, because I used it for at that diagnosis and then the implementation.
[UNKNOWN]: And then it said after that you had used your tokens for the month for that model.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, really?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, after one big task, so yeah, but I used it well.
[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't, I didn't use the foolishly, and then so when it does the lowers he down to the next model, which has been great, and I use mine on those, that one too.
[UNKNOWN]: So now I'm back down to the 2.5 Composer, which is what I started on when I,
[UNKNOWN]: Got into this about three or four months ago, so I think I made a comment last week of the week prior I think I said something like I might have been to TJ last week.
[UNKNOWN]: It was like we got we had started on I think we did three Yep, and we got started on doing these shows when we when we would take a break from having a guest and and so that we could just talk about the six major platform five or six.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, thank and
[UNKNOWN]: I even joked, I was like, well, the problem is they're changing so fast, we're almost going back and start over.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we'll have to.
[UNKNOWN]: I at least will see.
[UNKNOWN]: It makes sense, you know, in between guests, that we continue to update our listeners as to what's new.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, like, we just, I think it's able to get a little bit of an update today on Claude, you know, just because of the headlines.
[UNKNOWN]: But, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, there's other stuff going on, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Like we talked about Gemini, it was actually happening all day.
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't die.
[UNKNOWN]: Gemini, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we did Gemini and tons change without.
[UNKNOWN]: And really has, and it was happening, that's kind of why I did that week when they had the Google conference, and they did all the announcements with their Gemini Omni and their imaging and 2.0, it's all good stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: So today we're going to dive into a little bit with chatGPT, which is, you know, it's
[UNKNOWN]: It is kind of like the name of all the platforms.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying?
[UNKNOWN]: That is the old guy in the room, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So it's kind of like the way people call a piece of meat steak.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's a steak.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, what kind of steak?
[UNKNOWN]: People just refer to this chatGPT because, and I don't remember this statistic, was it 300 million, 500 million computers have, you know, I mean, every Microsoft operating system has it.
[UNKNOWN]: whether you want it or use it or not.
[UNKNOWN]: So of course, that's synonymous with AI.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it is, and it, it, it, chatGPT, you know, with, with their brilliant team, and many of them are not an anthropic, that, that lady that we talked about, that has started her own super intelligence lab, I think it's Maya Mira.
[UNKNOWN]: Brilliant.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, she's she's the one that came up with the idea of chat GPT.
[UNKNOWN]: And we have heard a thank for all of this wonderful ability to just convert back and forth and have it do all the work for us instead of us having to know the code and you know enter it in the old way through the terminal and and through a
[UNKNOWN]: you know, uh, through or through software that, you know, allows you to program.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's kind of why, you know, the, the initial fear was, well, these programmers are going to lose their jobs now.
[UNKNOWN]: No, they're, they're definitely not going to lose their jobs.
[UNKNOWN]: They're, they're going to be able to use this and really create some cool stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Because they know, they know we're going to push the buttons.
[UNKNOWN]: They don't we're going to push the, the limits.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think it makes some more value.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no doubt.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's, uh, you've, you've been down it.
[UNKNOWN]: And now you can, you can, you're saving so much time.
[UNKNOWN]: You can actually,
[UNKNOWN]: See, well, what about this, you know, what improvements and that's kind of my favorite question to ask it is what else would you improve to make it a more valuable experience for the user, you know, so well, that's an example of how confusing and easy just to get these platforms confused.
[UNKNOWN]: I was thinking of co-pilot You're thinking about it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, because co-pilot is it as I started.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, that's not that's yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I keep eating co-pilot two different things, but we did talk about co-pilot too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and mind you that's how that's our co-pilot is gotten
[UNKNOWN]: You know, the number of they inherited it, you know, it's nice.
[UNKNOWN]: It's nice when you have Microsoft pretty much in every, you know, workplace computer, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And that probably most home computers do.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, who doesn't have word or, you know, the Excel and our point and I appreciate you not not saying, hey, dumbass, that's co-pilot.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's not about it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's an example of how you
[UNKNOWN]: But Chad GBT has become synonymous period because I think it was the first one there.
[UNKNOWN]: It was the first one It's and it seems like a long time ago, but it's really not that long ago We're talking 2223.
[UNKNOWN]: I remember Gary that was the first time I had been exposed to it was when my son my steps on Garrett said check this out look look what you can do he's like I could use it to do all my homework I'm like
[UNKNOWN]: And whatever and then I that was when I sat down and and told it I just typed in right me a 10 page essay on the influence of Nazi Germany on Europe You know, and it just starts writing.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like wow.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right freaking cool.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, chat GPT is kind of like
[UNKNOWN]: If you say chat GPT, people know you're talking about AI.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they definitely know you're talking about the form of AI.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's that conversational, you know, text box prompt, whatever you want to, whatever you've become used to it when you're out there.
[UNKNOWN]: And, you know, it's kind of created its own little lingo and its own, you know, are you,
[UNKNOWN]: Are you good at prompting or are you good at, you know, contextual prompting where you're adding material to it or and now it can go out and research material I mean it's pretty powerful and we talked about you know them now implementing visual into it So now you can upload a video you can upload pictures.
[UNKNOWN]: I even told you Inthropic a few but about three or four weeks ago Actually just said well, let me let me take a look and it got onto my screen and started going around and looking
[UNKNOWN]: It was pretty, pretty well.
[UNKNOWN]: That's amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: So great stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Certainly helps when you're kind of at a loss for words is to explain the problem that's going on and it can now put its eyes and I use that very late lately.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, you do almost, these things, these agents and these systems almost kind of do take on like a,
[UNKNOWN]: human persona almost I mean like I mean that sounds weird but well you're right look like you like you even refer to like Claude will tell me this or Claude will tell me that and you in in my mind I visualize like this person going to go and oh I gotta go right this kind of I get you know so when you say eyes it's like yeah that fits that kind of fits that that mentality
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and what's most impressive about I think, and that's why the the memory chips right now or a hot item and a stock market this last week took a, took a little bit of a nose dive based on, well, I can't, again, I don't fall stocks too closely, but it was the one company that did earnings and it caused everybody to, it losing about 1.3 trillion worth of value in a day, but it bounced back.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and then Oracle's, I guess, earnings are coming out here soon, but the,
[UNKNOWN]: You know, memory chips are now in high demand because where they're really personalizing an experience, whether you're talking with chat, GPT, co-pilot, or any of these other ones, it's the memory.
[UNKNOWN]: Don't you remember me telling you this is how I like it?
[UNKNOWN]: Don't you remember this is what we're working on?
[UNKNOWN]: don't make me have to repeat this over and why don't I have to keep telling you the same instructions when I just you know so I like my wife well but but it's improving you just just even in the you know since I've been working on the platform you know it's in the last three four months
[UNKNOWN]: You could see the memory that's being implemented because now it's actually keeping a memory bank of the most important things and I think it's going to expand to the point where it's it's going to have that recall and once it has that recall that that's a really really powerful tool now because now you're now you're always building instead of having to recreate recreate recreate.
[UNKNOWN]: So does it save that data locally on your computer or do you know or now now that's on the cloud so that's on there that's on there stuff That's wherever their memory chips are it's not on here unless unless you're using one of the local models which again I I think I told you you can you can you can get some of the older models that you can download on your computer yeah and they're going to use your GPUs right right but that puts a pretty good strain on your because now you're using your hardware I would think so cool it really slows things down
[UNKNOWN]: It is fascinating.
[UNKNOWN]: It is fascinating stuff, but you know, we're going to we're going to continue to talk about chat you be tuned and we come back.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to refill.
[UNKNOWN]: We had our pre-drink here and we're going to crack up in this whistle pig when Louie gets here and and I'm giving you the second segment.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to shout out to long distance fan number reached out, so Oh sure, because that is started.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know that whole of old cheers.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we are back and we are joined by the one and only Mr. Lou Brissley himself, Larry, welcome.
[UNKNOWN]: Good to be back here in this week.
[UNKNOWN]: When we got looking good, brother, how was this?
[UNKNOWN]: I was here week.
[UNKNOWN]: My week, you mean this week or last week or the week?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, how was that?
[UNKNOWN]: last seven days.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how was your last few days?
[UNKNOWN]: My last couple of days been pretty good.
[UNKNOWN]: I've spent a little bit hot here in town and my air is my air conditioner.
[UNKNOWN]: Can you believe the hottest three days we've had my air conditioners down right now?
[UNKNOWN]: And I can wait for fun tractor.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I know the barrier that last week.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, man.
[UNKNOWN]: I have portable air conditioners in each room in my house waiting for the contractor to get out.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's, uh, you might have a bit of weeks down that fan on you.
[UNKNOWN]: And you used to think that was seven?
[UNKNOWN]: I can't have something moving now.
[UNKNOWN]: So last week, I thought, mine, mine crapped out.
[UNKNOWN]: I got home from work last Monday or Tuesday.
[UNKNOWN]: And I said to my wife, this air doesn't feel her cold coming out of the vent.
[UNKNOWN]: She's like, oh, I don't.
[UNKNOWN]: And she's, she doesn't have it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, something's wrong.
[UNKNOWN]: So I call my HVC guy.
[UNKNOWN]: He comes out and tests later that day.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, yeah, I think your compressor shot.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, yeah, he's.
[UNKNOWN]: damn it.
[UNKNOWN]: Every time I turn around, it's another $5,000.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, very, $65,000.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and I had just paid for a brand new line set and I'll have it reconnect to that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So anyway, long story short, he comes.
[UNKNOWN]: So he finds me a unit.
[UNKNOWN]: that uses the same free on that already had, so I didn't have that much.
[UNKNOWN]: Which is important because there was a big fight there as to what free on you can use.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and if you replace, if you change the free, you have to change the line set.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Equal all that that's the $67,000 deal.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: So he goes, I found the unit that uses the R410 or whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: It's still new.
[UNKNOWN]: It's left over.
[UNKNOWN]: It's still as a five-year warranty.
[UNKNOWN]: 1600 bucks, so it's like sold.
[UNKNOWN]: There we go.
[UNKNOWN]: So that had been about 2500 with installation.
[UNKNOWN]: So he shows up Monday to fix it.
[UNKNOWN]: And this past weekend was really hot.
[UNKNOWN]: So he shows up Monday and he goes, hey, turn your air on.
[UNKNOWN]: I turned it on, he goes, compressor's working.
[UNKNOWN]: Here it ended up being a piece of something kind of forum material that was inside the line.
[UNKNOWN]: So it was plug in the, keep it in the gas from flowing.
[UNKNOWN]: It ended up cost me 250 bucks.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought it hit the lottery.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's great.
[UNKNOWN]: Awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, this is the best 200 50-dollar check I've ever written.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, thank you very much.
[UNKNOWN]: And it is cold, really cold now.
[UNKNOWN]: That's cool.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I do need to find it.
[UNKNOWN]: I wish that for you, Louis, but well, I appreciate it.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't have a a warm spell, but we didn't have that water spell here.
[UNKNOWN]: We were our equipment almost got hit, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: When we turned on the the faucet outside, so little remodeling and the little remodeling, we now have the the wooden bulkhead, which I think is is a different looking and Huey's guys, Don Huey in town.
[UNKNOWN]: They were here Monday morning and those two gentlemen are pure craftsmons and thank you guys You know you guys the looks beautiful you put everything back together Yeah, while we had what I was ripping it apart thinking oh my goodness, you know Yeah, well I came down and I meant to do certain things in life and certain people are meant to tear down Others are meant to build up right?
[UNKNOWN]: I meant to just watch that kind of thing right now
[UNKNOWN]: I came in here to get my camera last Saturday or whatever it was and I was like, oh my god It was close.
[UNKNOWN]: It was everywhere and there was different.
[UNKNOWN]: There was white plaster wet plaster everywhere And it was it was not what you want to see on a Friday evening, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Right
[UNKNOWN]: So I'll think it's considered it'll be in a little bit hot, which is what do they say?
[UNKNOWN]: That's a first world problem.
[UNKNOWN]: It is a first world problem.
[UNKNOWN]: It's been a good seven years.
[UNKNOWN]: You know what's also how does the data center in the AI world?
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so they tell me what's going on.
[UNKNOWN]: So there's so much loot.
[UNKNOWN]: We only got through two of the headlines that we of the four that I wanted to even talk about.
[UNKNOWN]: And that is the SpaceX.
[UNKNOWN]: IPOs happening Friday.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's dropping.
[UNKNOWN]: So if you want to get into the the market with E-Lon and his conglomerate of companies.
[UNKNOWN]: that he's joining in and gets XAI space X and we said Starling too, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think I heard he's rolling all three in.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that makes sense right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's a perfect pairing.
[UNKNOWN]: So, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: Is it a Starlink subscriber?
[UNKNOWN]: No, but we looked into Starlink where we're working on Newton because of the remote locations of some of these well-sites.
[UNKNOWN]: And where you can micro-tion, and that's why I said, the data centers don't care how you tie into the grid.
[UNKNOWN]: You just need to get into it, and the communication back and forth is to what that message is.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not actually that big, so it doesn't need that constant ethernet for what
[UNKNOWN]: would need to be served on the one level of computing.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, it's not going to be the super computing for sure, you know, that the cutting edge frontier models are doing, but it certainly isn't high demand still for what everybody else is doing.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and we're seeing that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that was the other headlines that we're talking about is all these new models, including mythos coming out.
[UNKNOWN]: When
[UNKNOWN]: anthropic didn't want them to come up but then you got to wonder if they're just releasing a right before their IPO to create a little bit of a buzz and right before he wants right SpaceX is uh... coming out friday friday I don't know it's right around the corner eight hours 48 hours we're going to see the first
[UNKNOWN]: First company coming on to the stock market with a valuation of a trillion dollars before they can go public, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's on the tea.
[UNKNOWN]: It's unbelievable.
[UNKNOWN]: Actually, we're in the first segment, Brad was talking about, I think, in thròpica, he said something over a billion, and I was like, you mean, truly, he's really destroyed.
[UNKNOWN]: Like, billion isn't even a thing anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Isn't it funny?
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't even matter anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: We went on.
[UNKNOWN]: My name is to a B to a T. Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Inflations praise not.
[UNKNOWN]: I knew it.
[UNKNOWN]: I knew the gas bulbs were it in Harvard, but I knew it was this.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know who the president is.
[UNKNOWN]: There's certain it's something like it's good though.
[UNKNOWN]: But, no, that's interesting that that's coming.
[UNKNOWN]: What is the, what's the, what do you think's going to happen next week?
[UNKNOWN]: On this Friday, it's coming out, what are they selling?
[UNKNOWN]: 500 million shares or something like that?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're selling 75.
[UNKNOWN]: 75 billion dollars worth of shares at the valuation of 1.75 trillion.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know how I think it's like 500 million shares.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I thought about 500, 500, some odd million shares at a buck 35.
[UNKNOWN]: If you were a gambling man, what would you think might happen by next Friday, seven days later?
[UNKNOWN]: What do you think might
[UNKNOWN]: to have a lot of billionaires run around.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and that's what they said in one of the headlines they said when once they go public, he's going to instantly cash out all the people that, you know, all those employees that have gotten shares over the years and this and that he's instantly going to turn 4,000 people into millionaires.
[UNKNOWN]: a million or billion.
[UNKNOWN]: I think they said million.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I saw a million.
[UNKNOWN]: But go, still that.
[UNKNOWN]: But 4,000 people.
[UNKNOWN]: But for employees that are that have been along for the ride that are putting all that work into it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think I'm right on that one, sir.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what equity.
[UNKNOWN]: He makes 4 million or 4,000 billion years boy, this world's going to.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's true.
[UNKNOWN]: But I wouldn't add it.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's one of the things I think is very interesting about that.
[UNKNOWN]: And people don't think about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I know there's some people to say, oh, those people are getting rich really quick.
[UNKNOWN]: But that's going to create
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it is.
[UNKNOWN]: How much?
[UNKNOWN]: So now we've got to get a capital gain if there's a a billion dollar tax event.
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be a lot of tax events.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a hundred and fifty-way tax revenue, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You get tax initially you get tax when you buy you get tax when you sell you get a tax when you're just sitting in it.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's face the company die.
[UNKNOWN]: Our government already spent that money anyway.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, first they did the 10 years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: No, they probably did, but it's going to be, yeah, we cool.
[UNKNOWN]: That's going to be an interesting thought, though.
[UNKNOWN]: This is going to be a fun ride to watch and and when you ask about words going to be next week I think that's the that's the nebulous graze on that you want to try to play for the short run, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So And I was telling you guys off off era.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's a 60 40 play in my opinion and I have no
[UNKNOWN]: you're saying 60% you believe it'll be positive over the next week.
[UNKNOWN]: I think 60% is negative and I'll tell you why because there was two things happening against Elon big in the last couple months.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: One was the open AI case that he lost hands down by statute of limitations, which I don't
[UNKNOWN]: If that was even in play, I'm not even sure why he brought the case other than just for headlines, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe he did that for just headline, then that wouldn't be the one under estimate.
[UNKNOWN]: Which I wouldn't underestimate.
[UNKNOWN]: It's possible.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Second of all, he's he's lost 11 of his founders.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that right?
[UNKNOWN]: All 11.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's not all.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all of them.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're no longer with the company.
[UNKNOWN]: And so you got to wonder if the deal he cut.
[UNKNOWN]: So why?
[UNKNOWN]: What made me scratch my head the other day two weeks ago when he cut that deal with anthropic and he leased out that whole colossus at 220 yeah that's the part that has been answered yeah so why is X A I not using that why is SpaceX not using why is Starling night what why is why is Tesla not using it well we can understand the EV stuff because that that's obviously turns sour since the new administration's coming in but
[UNKNOWN]: what is the path going forward for space acts, but wouldn't him, wouldn't he leasing that all to anthropic improve his valuation going into this?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he did.
[UNKNOWN]: He is getting, I think, somewhere around a billion dollars a month for that.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's not like he's leasing it out for nothing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Like a trillion, but no, but it's a billions per month.
[UNKNOWN]: I could live on it.
[UNKNOWN]: But it's so pass.
[UNKNOWN]: It's very.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but it sounds like a lot, but it.
[UNKNOWN]: But when it comes to GPU, it's not about paying for it, it's having access to it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And so if you have the company that has the need for it, so we gotta ask is, it's SpaceX really just in the reselling business of creating GPUs and turning around solid, because the way they set it up down to Memphis, I mean, it's all these makeshift.
[UNKNOWN]: temporary and I use that kind of lightly, you know, quote unquote turbines because he hasn't set up permanent shop because they're underneath the permitting process where they don't have to, you know, and he's caused an uproar down there because they're throwing off smoke and they're throwing off noise, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: I think the assumption was that he was building the giga center or whatever for himself.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and that was, I mean, for him to least the entire thing
[UNKNOWN]: And unless he's taking, unless, and this is where the 40% comes in, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So, let's see, I'm fine.
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's the attorney and me.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm arguing both sides to myself.
[UNKNOWN]: In the mirror.
[UNKNOWN]: Who won?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: I won this case.
[UNKNOWN]: I got it.
[UNKNOWN]: I have to have 10, all right.
[UNKNOWN]: Like I said, you can get jerked off by the left or right.
[UNKNOWN]: You're still getting jerked off.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyways, the end results in some.
[UNKNOWN]: Can I ask a question to Brad for some of our listeners that may not, maybe first time listeners may be a little bit novice.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, welcome.
[UNKNOWN]: First of all, welcome to all of you.
[UNKNOWN]: We apologize to you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, we very much appreciate you.
[UNKNOWN]: But tell me and what you mean by a GPU that he, that whether he bought, created least or whatever and he's reselling, reselling, leasing, whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: Tell me what you mean by that.
[UNKNOWN]: and he's worked very hard at doing it.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, he even on his, I don't know if it's the closest plant or another one that he had, but, you know, do you remember the headline about a year and a half ago or a year ago, Perry where he actually bought a gas turbine, plant overseas and put it on it, a barred ship to move it because getting turbines like the Homer City plant is building is on a five or six year waitings.
[UNKNOWN]: And Elon's like, well, I'm just not going to wait.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to figure out another way around it.
[UNKNOWN]: And so he's done temporary turbines, which are the smaller ones we talked about, and done a lot of them.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's created these, you know, significant power plants, and there's a couple of bottlenecks in the market.
[UNKNOWN]: If you're in the AI GPU market, which we're talking about.
[UNKNOWN]: And that is the microchips, like in the video chips, or the AMD chips, or Samsung, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: And now there's a couple other companies that are trying to get into it, including E-Lon, you know, saying, you know what I'm going to buy it for a while, but I'm going to make it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's one bottleneck.
[UNKNOWN]: Power is a second bottleneck.
[UNKNOWN]: And then third is having an a use for it.
[UNKNOWN]: So, we always assume that E-Lon had that use, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Is the use of all things at this point, the bottleneck frame?
[UNKNOWN]: because he's got the power, he's got the chips, that now he's leasing it out to his competitor andthropic.
[UNKNOWN]: And when you say, when you say leasing out, you're talking about the GPU.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the whole GPU,
[UNKNOWN]: So he set up a whole computing center.
[UNKNOWN]: So he has the chips.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a data center.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just a whole data center.
[UNKNOWN]: Huge data center.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm talking like, I think it was 220,000 GPUs.
[UNKNOWN]: Something to that effect.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, those things are expensive.
[UNKNOWN]: It's really expensive.
[UNKNOWN]: So I mean, if you break down the numbers and you back it, I mean, it's ridiculous, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So you think of all a billion dollars a month while that's crazy.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but, you know, it probably cost him in today's value for those chips.
[UNKNOWN]: in for that power in order and whatever he's paying for that electricity and then you know what it text us right uh it's either Texas or Memphis yeah i'm not sure we'll have to look that one but uh anyway sorry it's it's the colossus one i know i know that's the the name of it and GPU is the anacron m4 graphic processing unit
[UNKNOWN]: That's exactly it.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is the old school, uh, usually the video game.
[UNKNOWN]: The video game.
[UNKNOWN]: These are the, you know, the video game, the video card.
[UNKNOWN]: That started in a Tendo playstation.
[UNKNOWN]: Now they're in PCs.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, you know, the Sony.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: And, and now it's kind of evolved, you know, where you're playing, uh, you know, at least I watched my kids and their friends, you know, play.
[UNKNOWN]: these, you know, call the duty of all these ballistic, you know, games there.
[UNKNOWN]: It looks like the GPU is more important than the CPU.
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is what makes you be able to see something on your smoker phones.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a very realistic and smooth.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you have a teenager, and they have one of those gaming stations, you know how hot they can get, the fan is running.
[UNKNOWN]: It is going.
[UNKNOWN]: I was gaming laptop of it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't put it on a fan base that keeps air blowing on, it shuts itself.
[UNKNOWN]: It will, because it's going to overheat, and so that's what happens.
[UNKNOWN]: And now these really powerful GPU chips that are being created, they get really hot, and that's when we were kind of debating back and forth, well, they're going to put them on the poles, they're going to put them in the ocean on it, and sure enough, you know, how many, somewhere between the equator and the equator, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's a perfect spot, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's probably on a slow ship, the China somewhere, right?
[UNKNOWN]: That's a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: Let me, he's always talking about bulls.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[UNKNOWN]: behind the scenes, so all the stuff that, you know, all these questions that we're firing at them, they're processing it and they're throwing it back and there's, and now there's so many different patterns as to how that's mean done.
[UNKNOWN]: We talked about the inference pattern and how anthropic cut that deal with the old imaging company up there and up in the Massachusetts area, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And they were not even in the GPU business.
[UNKNOWN]: They just had created that network of all these, you know,
[UNKNOWN]: GPUs that are very light working but it works perfectly in the inference level which is the next level that's happening right now and that is where these chips start learning from themselves and they don't necessarily need all the computing power that you do initially for the turnover they can do it late and lead kind of you know instead of one big group they're doing it maybe like a million little spread all groups we talked about that with the ant hill use that is an
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that was a perfect way to kind of picture the, you know, answer a perfect way.
[UNKNOWN]: Show how you can get the most out of little, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So, and that's what they're trying to do in the chip world right now.
[UNKNOWN]: And how can they make them more efficient?
[UNKNOWN]: And that's where the technology is changing, too, is can we get more out of this without having to use as much power and as much heat.
[UNKNOWN]: So here being thrown off so we have to do the cooling as well.
[UNKNOWN]: Here's my question.
[UNKNOWN]: So I've built several gaming computers.
[UNKNOWN]: I used to air quote thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Two for Garrett won for me.
[UNKNOWN]: And we always buy Nvidia video cards.
[UNKNOWN]: So if we, so I'll talk to my nephew about a camera and build a gaming computer, what's your budget?
[UNKNOWN]: $2,000.
[UNKNOWN]: And he'll say, all right, I can build you a monster system for $2,000 bucks.
[UNKNOWN]: 1200 of it is the video card.
[UNKNOWN]: And then the rest of it is the case, the power supply, the drive, the CPU, the motherboard, the RAM, all those other things don't even add up to what the cost of the video card because video cards the heart of the whole thing.
[UNKNOWN]: And then IOS speed on the board and all that stuff matters.
[UNKNOWN]: Without that video card at high-end video card, and see there an AMD radio on or it's in video, it's right, they're both awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: They're the top, without that, you can't do shit.
[UNKNOWN]: No, and why don't they just, sorry, you know, why don't they just use the GPU to run the entire computer?
[UNKNOWN]: That's my question.
[UNKNOWN]: Because they're so fast, why would you even use the CPU?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that's a good, that's a good point.
[UNKNOWN]: A lot of the lesser trying to save all the GPU for everything that needs to be done in there for the video, and the computing part.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a rest of it's fairly mundane and easy to count.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think you painted a really clear picture as to what it looks like.
[UNKNOWN]: And people can relate as to what it looks like because they probably have either had a desktop that they either built or bought and seen that.
[UNKNOWN]: Or they had a gaming station where they could at least feel the heat coming off of it and realize that there's a big, pretty powerful working in there.
[UNKNOWN]: stacked with three tiers, four tiers high, of nothing but one after another of these.
[UNKNOWN]: All organized, extremely that would satisfy your OCD so well.
[UNKNOWN]: You want to talk about clean lines, you want to talk about wires, you know, oh, yeah, this is this is exactly where we're going to probably need to get our next job right.
[UNKNOWN]: They're like works of art.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they are works of art when it comes down to the liniers.
[UNKNOWN]: It looks like an AI generated image.
[UNKNOWN]: It does.
[UNKNOWN]: It's interesting to me that we're talking about this in 1973.
[UNKNOWN]: My grandma, I think I'm going to say Circus 1973.
[UNKNOWN]: My grandmother bought me what was probably one of the first video games made by Atari.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was called Pong.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I remember it was.
[UNKNOWN]: And it was like a beep.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a ball in a paddle.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a line.
[UNKNOWN]: And I know little square and the ball didn't even really, you know, it kind of moved along in the matrix you know it did so and we and we were entertained for I got an Atari for my fourth birthday in 1978 and I thought it was the and
[UNKNOWN]: And in fact, that's why I think they brought back all these old guitar games for folks like the big of a comeback.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, they are.
[UNKNOWN]: So whether it was Pac-Man, I mean, that was, that was a big, and Donkey Kong, and that was big advancement compared to Pong and a couple of the other early games, you know, and I remember Pong very well, because like, I won't put it on, it was the hand-to-hand coordination, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So you're trying to get that done.
[UNKNOWN]: And we just, it's face and face.
[UNKNOWN]: But do you know, do you know when it changed?
[UNKNOWN]: It was Mario Bros. To me, it was Mario Bros. That's when it changed from being, oh, I'm gonna go back away before that, because I'm 15, 16 years old in here, but I'm gonna tell you what, the one that first, for me, it went from Atari, Pong, to then Pac-Man, which seemed, then Miss Pac-Man really seemed high.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, but that was all angular, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It was.
[UNKNOWN]: The one that went into different dimensions for me,
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm this I'm going like nineteen seventy nine eight.
[UNKNOWN]: I know it when I'm talking Colin's gonna be like those that's centipede was in a different dimension.
[UNKNOWN]: It was quick Asteroids too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but still all on the I don't know if I'm using the word right it's the
[UNKNOWN]: it's that rule the they're called sprites they use those those big pixel yeah they're they're the pixel things they're not using the graphics the the next level graphics I think came in with Mario because when super Mario came up and also he's diving down you know tubes coming out uh different worlds and you have almost these I was Nintendo Nintendo so that's PlayStation Sony you know
[UNKNOWN]: To me, it was like, whoa, this feels like a different world.
[UNKNOWN]: This doesn't feel like a 2D world, this feels almost somewhat 3D, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And then it really, really changed, you know, we're jumping ahead, you know, 15, 20 years now.
[UNKNOWN]: But when Call of Duty came out, and to now where you're at, where Call of Duty is, and the next one has been in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in,
[UNKNOWN]: two and a half year and I'm sure call duty programmers are going what the hell we used to have our own time we had all the chips you wanted now we were fighting against all these data centers we can't do it anymore but then it was doom and quake number two there was there wasn't the first person shooter kind of like there was a couple other ones where they were really
[UNKNOWN]: pretty realistic those and that was when that was when the internet was first starting to become a thing and you could play against your friends online and be so a dial up at the time you could play against your friends and like shoot your friends around it was that was like the coolest thing it was cool you know we should do we should find there's got to be some dude out there that has still has everything from
[UNKNOWN]: from pong to what is ever the latest is that he has a long is every pinball machine on the man to be a neat guess to have on here to kind of go through the history of all of this stuff and how it relates to what we're talking about today with the GPUs and everything that's right that'd be a great on site
[UNKNOWN]: shoot in his game room because he could tell us about all of the game room is amazing good.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he has ever had some police darkly great game.
[UNKNOWN]: Some blue.
[UNKNOWN]: What's he up, Perry, about 1500 pinball machines?
[UNKNOWN]: He told me at one point years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: God it was maybe 10 years after we were out of high school that he had 450 and most of them were in a warehouse in Pittsburgh Yeah, now since then he's collected all this like the all this like America I don't know what else to call it all this stuff and he built that room to display it all.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like the greatest
[UNKNOWN]: Showcase, so really it's amazing back in time right still.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he and it's better than any arcade ever walked into Oh, however that big boy restaurant over in containing yeah, he's got the big boy.
[UNKNOWN]: What is that 25 feet tall?
[UNKNOWN]: Did he buy it?
[UNKNOWN]: I think he I'm not sure if he actually could have they cadet.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's he's was a cadet restaurant was like the big boy from space balls, right from Dr. evil.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Austin Powers movies, but so he's been sending Dave and I my brother and I.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll get like I won't talk to him for weeks and months on it and then we'll get this text It'll be a picture of one of these giant people from that's for sale somewhere I'm like when you're just gonna pull the trigger.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, just pull the trigger Buy it put it down by that pond put it right in front.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I was like put it back here
[UNKNOWN]: There you guys can have a neighborhood of 25 football people in so cool and then he said he said pictures of dinosaurs one time And and I forget what he said and he's so funny because like David and I are like like all that's up that'd be a good one You know and he's like he's like yeah, they keep they put these signs up to say free to a good home I'll use to do his haul it out of here.
[UNKNOWN]: I was like what are you waiting for dinosaurs giant people?
[UNKNOWN]: This would be so cool
[UNKNOWN]: He just needs to buy Mark Ray's property and just make it happen.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe you will.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's interesting how we're talking about Mark who has just physical, hard, old stuff, morphing into today what we're talking about is this what just ten years ago would have been perceived as star wars in the future that nobody could imagine.
[UNKNOWN]: And we're here now.
[UNKNOWN]: And we can't get enough GPU to meet our, our, our, our voracious appetite for a vision.
[UNKNOWN]: All you have to lose.
[UNKNOWN]: Look at Jensen from a video, you know, he's been there since 2006.
[UNKNOWN]: And when he was when he started off, that was a gaming platform.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I'm saying.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a video card for video games.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, his mission was to provide, you know, GPU, high-powered GPU that we're providing the next level of gaming, and not that they've gotten away from it, but I don't think it's, he's certainly not the focus these days, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So he's a synonymous with gaming video cards as chatGPTS to AS.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's been around for 20 years.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: The is the gift.
[UNKNOWN]: It is the next level gaming chip that took Call of Duty and all this stuff to AMD radion is right there with them.
[UNKNOWN]: It is and that's why that's why you would say that they're better Elon with them.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he cut a deal with them.
[UNKNOWN]: It made him cut a deal with Sony.
[UNKNOWN]: I thought back in the headlines Sony is still a thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he cut a or Samsung.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it was Samsung.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was Samsung.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a
[UNKNOWN]: But you don't, I mean, anyways, I'm going to refill my breadroom because we're gonna try that way.
[UNKNOWN]: We are going to talk about chatGBT a little bit, hopefully before they go public.
[UNKNOWN]: How many people out there have no idea how to spell in video?
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want me to answer?
[UNKNOWN]: I just kind of just kind of thrown it out there because like think about it, where did that name come from?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know where it came from.
[UNKNOWN]: I know how to tell it though.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, check it out during our break and maybe we'll have some, what is that called?
[UNKNOWN]: Etymology of the word or name from?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we should.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, isn't a video publicly traded company too, by the way?
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, you know, yeah, I think I think they have been right.
[UNKNOWN]: So I think they're, I think they've been killed.
[UNKNOWN]: They've been killed.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, again, I don't trade stock.
[UNKNOWN]: So I just, I said on the sideline, but I got to think they're doing pretty good.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they've been public for a long.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: Cool.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll be right back.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys think about that.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll think about it.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll do a little research and we come back.
[UNKNOWN]: We are going to talk about the, the bottle that we just cracked into with this beautiful whistle pick.
[UNKNOWN]: And.
[UNKNOWN]: We have a special shout out to you.
[UNKNOWN]: We have a couple shout outs.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we should each do a shout out.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we do have a couple shout outs when we come back to you.
[UNKNOWN]: So I have one, you have one, Louie has one, before we get caught into the fourth of this, I mean, we got to recognize, recognize, respect the deserves of being recognized.
[UNKNOWN]: And there is some recognize and going on.
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[UNKNOWN]: And we are back, my blood pressure is up.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my, my blood pressure is up, my blood pressure is down, but you know what, it's all good.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what happens when you talk about health care.
[UNKNOWN]: If you were talking about health care on the health care, you know what, it's held and we even talk about that.
[UNKNOWN]: I always talk about Luigi, man, Gianni.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Luigi, yeah, that's one guy that'll solve your problem.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sure.
[UNKNOWN]: range of life one of the two.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Perry, we asked his question during the break.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that Chuck Mangeoni's kid?
[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea.
[UNKNOWN]: Remember the guy played like the fluego horn.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but I know who he is.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: There might be a relation.
[UNKNOWN]: He comes from his family is pretty affluent, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Manjit, Luigi's family.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he had had money.
[UNKNOWN]: Like he's some big wig from New Jersey or New York or something.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he had a bunch of women kind of hawk.
[UNKNOWN]: Why, no, he definitely had a lot of women that
[UNKNOWN]: as a defense attorney out of been like, you know, let's get this to trial right away.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, not that I think his name's going to go away.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, obviously we're still talking about it all these years later, but I just can't believe it hasn't gone to trial yet.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, that's, that's right.
[UNKNOWN]: It still hasn't really, it's still going on.
[UNKNOWN]: So is the Charlie Kirk shooting thing.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, right.
[UNKNOWN]: How do these, why do they take that time?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's the, I mean, well, this kid, and generally is the defense that plays that game.
[UNKNOWN]: So this kid in Texas that's stabbed us, so the kid was like, William Bamboom done.
[UNKNOWN]: That's Texas, I guess.
[UNKNOWN]: No, so Brad is an attorney.
[UNKNOWN]: If you were, I know you weren't a criminal defense attorney.
[UNKNOWN]: I did do that.
[UNKNOWN]: But you did do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, on the advice of my senior partner, he said, Brad, the best thing you can do is.
[UNKNOWN]: is go on to the court administrators office here to cut your teeth here.
[UNKNOWN]: There's no better way than to put your name as the appointed outside conflict console.
[UNKNOWN]: So what happens is many times when criminal act happens, it's more than two defendants.
[UNKNOWN]: And if there's more than two defendants, then the public defender's office gets conflicted out, so they can't represent the other ones.
[UNKNOWN]: So they'll then go to the list of attorneys in town.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you willing to represent them as the outside public defender?
[UNKNOWN]: And basically, you're getting paid the county rate, which it might be not so much.
[UNKNOWN]: It might be pro-101.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It's usually capped.
[UNKNOWN]: If you're doing your work properly and you're preparing the case properly, that's spent in the first, you know, a few hours.
[UNKNOWN]: So I did that, and I actually worked on a number of cases.
[UNKNOWN]: I had a lot of post-trial conviction relief acts against the ineffective assist in the console.
[UNKNOWN]: I tried all that I worked on, and I got two guys at a jail.
[UNKNOWN]: I had
[UNKNOWN]: a murder case where the guy was on the death penalty, and we had to hire a Kentucky mitigation expert.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you allowed to tell us if he was really guilty?
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, he wasn't or no, you're not allowed to tell us.
[UNKNOWN]: Just no, I'm not going to say anything about that.
[UNKNOWN]: All I'm going to say is, you know, it was, it was public record and I got a point of what that would Tom Bianco and we're him and I became very close.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, Tom was the initial attorney pointed, and he said he needed outside counsel to help.
[UNKNOWN]: And he asked if he could hand pick me and I was honored to be, I'll share that.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: We're talking about our current judge.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and former D.A.
[UNKNOWN]: so.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So in a context of being a criminal defense, you mentioned Luigi, if you would, you would have brought him to trial right away.
[UNKNOWN]: What it generally speaking is better to delay delay delay delay delay delay.
[UNKNOWN]: In this case, you're suggesting, hey, strike while it's hot, get a, as a young, this is obviously like a teeny buffer magazine.
[UNKNOWN]: Kind of like that, wasn't it?
[UNKNOWN]: everything he saw in the headlines or news about him was like all these girls are you know how how could be this guy you know me just there was there was no there was nothing you know But again there there's going to be the great thing about the legal system is going to be two sides fighting it So whether you're on the prosecution or or that side they're going to be fighting to make sure that they get
[UNKNOWN]: affair in the impartial jury, too.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's where you get to kind of pick up art and you're going to get those, uh, those lottery, you know, X's where you can take those jurors out of there.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
[UNKNOWN]: I hope that trial on like the Carmella Anthony trial is going to be on on TV.
[UNKNOWN]: I was very saddened to see that that judge didn't allow that to happen because I think that being so emotional, it would have been nice to have seen how that played out because I can understand both sides.
[UNKNOWN]: I think one of the things that happens with maturity is hopefully you can see both sides of things and the greatest thing, one of the greatest things we have hopefully is in fact due process, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Hey.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and that's the one that... Hey, the price, if you didn't, let's figure out if that happens.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the one thing you're guaranteed, if you mess up and you are in trouble with the law, you are guaranteed representation, and you are in total to that, whether you're guilty or not.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you are guilty, then you're entitled to have representation to make sure it's mitigated and you're getting the best representation to make sure you're getting the, not only the, what your punishment is going to mitigate, but your rehab, you know, and so there's two, two important components going on there, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not sure how we got to this.
[UNKNOWN]: We can kind of go off the road because we're talking about health care.
[UNKNOWN]: It turned into a legal hour.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: But this is our shoutout.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's get back to our shoutouts.
[UNKNOWN]: So we got some really cool shoutouts.
[UNKNOWN]: I just took it from the bottom of the glass to the top.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's bear.
[UNKNOWN]: But you know what?
[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes you can take the lawyer out of the out of the.
[UNKNOWN]: a legal world, but you can't take the legal world out of the lawyer, this is good.
[UNKNOWN]: You got it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what you are, man.
[UNKNOWN]: And you're good at it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they, they embed that into you.
[UNKNOWN]: I try to trust me.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a law school.
[UNKNOWN]: They just, they, they change your, it's fascinating.
[UNKNOWN]: You're a wiring, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And I, I love that about you.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: So the other day, I got a message on Facebook from my nephew, and he's a nephew.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how that works.
[UNKNOWN]: If it's an nephew to an ex-wife, is it an ex-nephew?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't really know.
[UNKNOWN]: Great kid.
[UNKNOWN]: I was part of the family when he was born and his older brother was, he's the youngest of three.
[UNKNOWN]: The sister was the oldest, and he has an older brother who was the middle child.
[UNKNOWN]: and he was just a little boy when Carson was born.
[UNKNOWN]: So Carson Downey reached out to me telling me he stumbled on our podcast and he lives, he's active on me.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you Carson for your service.
[UNKNOWN]: No doubt.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: Here's the hersulger and all the boys that are out there serving.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's stationed in Louisiana at Fort Polk.
[UNKNOWN]: We wouldn't be here without you, and there's not a day that goes, those goes by, I never think about that.
[UNKNOWN]: That's for sure.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's often understated, I think, by the majority of the citizens.
[UNKNOWN]: I think that the most underappreciated bunch, because I mean, if you look at what really values, you talk about these tech guys getting all this money, you know where the money you need to go is to the guys that are 100%.
[UNKNOWN]: So anyway, he reached out and said, hey, I became a bourbon guy with the he was station of Fort Knox and Kentucky, which is like urban central, and he's like, oh, next time in town, what the, as he put it, slingsome brown, which is pretty interesting, never heard that phrase, linksome brown.
[UNKNOWN]: It must be an army thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: I kind of think that's what I do.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't sip it so I'm sipping tonight and I had the Louise on a sipping door and they had the There was some kind of a ceremony at
[UNKNOWN]: Omaha Beach in Normandy a couple of years ago.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think Dan and Tim McWade went and they did.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and was it the, was some anniversary of 100 or wasn't 100?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the storm, the storming and yeah, that's, that's where my judge was.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, our, yeah, our military had pair troopers that jumped to recreate that and Carson was one of the ones that jumped.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it was in a paper here locally.
[UNKNOWN]: It was really cool.
[UNKNOWN]: He was a, that is awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and his older brother, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: Chase is active army as well So shout out to you guys good us to you boys I mean you got to be good friends with them you guys are the real heroes I mean we can talk about all those other bullshit and tech and So it doesn't matter, you know, you know what it comes down to it There's a reason that we can talk about this stuff and it's because of these guys you know I mean it's because of that you know we're gonna be saw right in our 250th right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, where would we be with without without all the folks that have fought for us from 250 years ago told today, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's off to my stepkids father.
[UNKNOWN]: He was a shouldnuck pilot in the early days of Afghanistan.
[UNKNOWN]: Fantastic.
[UNKNOWN]: He was here this weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Big big weekend, Garrett, graduated.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: glad to get past all that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, me, it's a, it's a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that it's, it's the, it's the graduations are waiting in line, waiting in line, alphabetically.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like being back in kindergarten.
[UNKNOWN]: And I've said that to you guys, yeah, all that build up, all that build up it and I could, boom, it's over.
[UNKNOWN]: It's over.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the,
[UNKNOWN]: I know, but yeah, I'm going to follow up on your question about it is your nephew because you're now divorced and all that.
[UNKNOWN]: I interestingly had a conversation just last night with a friend of ours who's going through a lot of these things and his biggest stressor, Brad, and you were with us last night.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll leave his name out, but his biggest stressor was his nephew
[UNKNOWN]: And he's wondering what's going to happen because his, his, his nephew's were his wife's family and he was trying to figure out the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what he was talking about.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a great point.
[UNKNOWN]: This is once an uncle always always an uncle no matter what goes on in between.
[UNKNOWN]: And I salute your nephew, and that can give me and to my shout out to my nephew, Anne.
[UNKNOWN]: And everybody, and I'm going to have to get a more fin to a little bit into the U.S. open, which is coming up.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you had a shot, made it down to the finals of the National Qualifying.
[UNKNOWN]: And he had a great show.
[UNKNOWN]: But he had a great show.
[UNKNOWN]: And he played two solid days of golf.
[UNKNOWN]: It just came out a little bit short.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm guessing it was probably putting, right?
[UNKNOWN]: And so it always comes down to that.
[UNKNOWN]: Just a couple of puts there.
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: A couple that are right.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: There and you just get that one that just sure gets you going.
[UNKNOWN]: And not that I know what that feels like for me.
[UNKNOWN]: My game's over after two holes, my game's over.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but Matt, Matt, this is legit.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's kicked ass on the junior, on the mini tours, I guess,
[UNKNOWN]: Like I told you, I said, you know, look, look at your coal.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he just broke through at 34 and maths, you know, pushing 29 and 30 and I would just say to Matt,
[UNKNOWN]: Keep doing it, I mean, you are one, one tournament away from being on the big stage, and I'm telling you, it's, he's that close.
[UNKNOWN]: It is, and you know, my shout out, I guess, would be not to not to my nephew.
[UNKNOWN]: It's to him for trying and getting that far, but it's to those guys that made it.
[UNKNOWN]: I can't think of a harder way to make a living on this planet than trying to be a professional golfer.
[UNKNOWN]: It is one of the very few things where
[UNKNOWN]: as much as success is defined.
[UNKNOWN]: Failure is immediately defined.
[UNKNOWN]: And those guys that work their way through the countless hours of being on a range.
[UNKNOWN]: And now the best golfer is only when what percentage of this?
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very, I mean, I don't know what the number is.
[UNKNOWN]: It's so small, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So it is.
[UNKNOWN]: So I mean, what you would look on a normal scale of success and failure,
[UNKNOWN]: golf, it kind of flips on it's head because it's a truly brutal.
[UNKNOWN]: It truly is a 99% failure.
[UNKNOWN]: It is.
[UNKNOWN]: It is no doubt.
[UNKNOWN]: So I might my shout out is to all of those guys that grind every day at the range and get calluses on their hands and my thoughts on them.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, Harrison is my son.
[UNKNOWN]: One of the hardest
[UNKNOWN]: And that's about to qualify for the Pennsylvania Open I understand I think yeah, I think that's on his it's on his schedule here and then the next week or two and I told Harrison I said you know what doesn't matter what you do in golf, you know, you're really succeed because you're you know getting through college and you're going through that and he's made some great friends.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got a great mentor in his coach.
[UNKNOWN]: But you know, where he's really one at life is learning how to work and and that's work and that work ethic if you can do that grind that it's at least what he does and it's special.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not only because it's really really is a lonely existence.
[UNKNOWN]: If you can do that, it's like you against a world.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it is.
[UNKNOWN]: It truly is.
[UNKNOWN]: And so that's who my shout is to everybody, all the guys that made it and made it through the different levels and now they're going to Chin and cock for the US open.
[UNKNOWN]: And hey, I don't know if you guys saw this young high school kid down in Florida.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And guess who was on his bag literally would Charlie would tiger son was loopen with.
[UNKNOWN]: And now you can see if he takes him to Chin and cock or he goes the more professional caddy around.
[UNKNOWN]: He goes the drill
[UNKNOWN]: What a great story those two gonna rock be rock stars at the prom Yeah, right cuz Trump It's a problem.
[UNKNOWN]: They sold the go to a problem.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're probably over now.
[UNKNOWN]: I know they're talking about their prom And they're probably let's by the way.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go play this little I try to go to the US open right
[UNKNOWN]: What next year's prom maybe but no, but it's pretty cool.
[UNKNOWN]: I've Charlie Woods on the on the bag, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he was excited.
[UNKNOWN]: You can see he's genuinely excited for his buddy to make it.
[UNKNOWN]: So Where's his game?
[UNKNOWN]: Charlie.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, his game is wonderful.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's going to be a Florida state freshman next year.
[UNKNOWN]: See you soon here this year.
[UNKNOWN]: High school.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Usually with golf, they start recruiting you 10th to 11th grade.
[UNKNOWN]: So
[UNKNOWN]: probably 10th or 11th, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think you could be interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so my shoutouts to everybody that worked their ass off to get to the US Open at Chinacock.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to be watching you next week on Father's Day Weekend.
[UNKNOWN]: Hardly it's been a year since they were here at Oakmont.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's been a year.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a special year.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's my shoutout for this week.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a great shoutout, Nick.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you got, Brad?
[UNKNOWN]: In congratulations, Matt.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, what I, what I have is,
[UNKNOWN]: The love in Indiana, Pennsylvania, high school baseball team.
[UNKNOWN]: has gone to the state finals for the third year in a row.
[UNKNOWN]: Small school to the finals three years in a row.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: Big shout out to Danny Petrov and his leadership in the team.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, my goodness, the talent level.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't think there is a weak spot in that lineup.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I watched a little bit of the last few games and those bats are hot.
[UNKNOWN]: When they get hot,
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the other team doesn't even have a chance of scoring.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we've blown out just a button.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't mean to disrespect the other teams, but there, I think there's been two shut-outs and the first game, the first two games were 10 run, mercy rolls in the fifth.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it was something to be said, because you're planning against the best of the best, no, when it comes to playoff time, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So pitching, pitching is off.
[UNKNOWN]: And our pitch is being great.
[UNKNOWN]: You can go right down the line of all the talent that we have on there.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're from Indiana, you know, I'm talking about, I mean, the names just fly off your, and there, and a lot of them are going on to college, which is going to be great.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Watch them in the next level.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure exactly when this is going to air, but I know tomorrow morning, the team is leaving at 8 a.m. for the state championship in state college and.
[UNKNOWN]: We're filming on Wednesday and they play Thursday so by the time this does go to air it'll be over It'll be over well by then hopefully they'll be the the two times if I'm rating chance state camp That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes go a little Indians.
[UNKNOWN]: I guess Perhaps not say little Indians anymore, but that's what they are little Indians from Indiana Pennsylvania Anyway, we do no doubt.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, there's no big Indian anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Are they still little
[UNKNOWN]: That's good question.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you're a former, you're a former, why is your alma mater?
[UNKNOWN]: It's been on the Hawks.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: As a matter of fact, this is, this is the IUP football fundraiser this weekend, and I'm having dinner tomorrow night with you.
[UNKNOWN]: Something my old buddy.
[UNKNOWN]: Big Indian.
[UNKNOWN]: team mates from back in the day from 1979 and 1980s.
[UNKNOWN]: Tony and our playing in that tournament too, so we're going to see you.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll make a bet right now.
[UNKNOWN]: Our group versus your group, whoever finishes better in the event, $100 to a favorite charity.
[UNKNOWN]: Lowe is going to be some.
[UNKNOWN]: Lowe is always looking for an axe.
[UNKNOWN]: I have some action, but you've got to go to charity.
[UNKNOWN]: If it's going to charity, I'm all in.
[UNKNOWN]: As long as it's not a pepper charity, I know there's a few guys in here.
[UNKNOWN]: I went sideways, quick, like, no.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's another problem.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a lot of our, a lot of our beautiful lighting here is thanks to Johnny Boy.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm sure you recognize that these lights don't be on.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's right.
[UNKNOWN]: And they're one over there.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know what I mean?
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: And isn't that your leg over the nice Perry's?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, that's Perry's leg back there.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: What do you see?
[UNKNOWN]: It will be a week without it.
[UNKNOWN]: We didn't see John's garage when we get down with it.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even know where that stands.
[UNKNOWN]: We kind of bite, we kind of got off that topic, but the shells with the lights.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got some really sweet neons.
[UNKNOWN]: Did he have any idea what he had doing his garage?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what we're putting in the gas plant down in the homer city.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a boy.
[UNKNOWN]: Just a power of the advantage of painting that way.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's going to put in some place to park the cars.
[UNKNOWN]: John, I just want you to remember that beautiful home on number five green.
[UNKNOWN]: It's not about you It's about your buddies right?
[UNKNOWN]: The last guy that owned that place always had a cooler full of beer out there.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he did yeah, man
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he was Italian.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he did.
[UNKNOWN]: He was good at that.
[UNKNOWN]: Tom was always awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: And he always has some pretty cool beers to.
[UNKNOWN]: He always brought that great.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that mayor.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, mate.
[UNKNOWN]: And what is that Baltimore beer?
[UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, from main brewing.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You used to have lunch out there for us.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, man.
[UNKNOWN]: He was a big time beer dude.
[UNKNOWN]: He really up the bar for you, John.
[UNKNOWN]: Now that one that he brought, that was a, what's the type of, uh, that's a big bed you get a fill.
[UNKNOWN]: Was.
[UNKNOWN]: Was it a Guinness Maryland or something?
[UNKNOWN]: It was something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: It was really good though.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I know I grabbed two because I was still thirsty.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I was playing so bad.
[UNKNOWN]: I was I had a little more Baltimore Brown.
[UNKNOWN]: Quite the appetite when I got to number five.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Baltimore Brown.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was a good, it was delicious.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Tommy, thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: And if you're listening, man, that was that hit the spot.
[UNKNOWN]: if you're not doing my aren't you listening.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, this is, uh, we're talking about, we really fell weak, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, do we know anything about FIFA?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not a soccer guy.
[UNKNOWN]: I have no clue.
[UNKNOWN]: I, uh, I go USA.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to say, do we have a chance?
[UNKNOWN]: So John and I were talking today and we agreed that the only way we would, I don't want to say get interested or show some interest as if the United States would somehow be part of the finals.
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm going to watch it I'm going to watch it I'm watching we're the plane
[UNKNOWN]: everywhere in the country.
[UNKNOWN]: It's all around.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So they're we're hosting.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're hosting.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're the host tells you how removed.
[UNKNOWN]: So it'll be the thing going to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: I have I've watched zero news.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, it'll be the way I kind of give up on the headlines.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll be a big revenue generator.
[UNKNOWN]: It'll bring along the revenue.
[UNKNOWN]: So the city is talking about the ice machine.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we got a new ice machine.
[UNKNOWN]: The father's early father's day gift from my family.
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[UNKNOWN]: Johnny Pateen is walking by and she's holding this cube up with the tongs like it's What's that?
[UNKNOWN]: It sounds glistening through it.
[UNKNOWN]: You can see right through this thing.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm thinking oh my goodness We we got something special in it drops two of these balls every hour up to 72 Dropsets balls are yeah, I know so I mean it's kind of everything
[UNKNOWN]: coming to manhood moment like DJ Fairchild last week talking about two seeds in one side.
[UNKNOWN]: Get right in the coffee.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean that's we're talking about coffee last week.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Now we got to the chair of the chair of the chair.
[UNKNOWN]: The chair of the right.
[UNKNOWN]: Did he not make coffee sound like the greatest fruit ever?
[UNKNOWN]: It was like an
[UNKNOWN]: his bag of coffee books.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Trunch on the, I mean, those are really good.
[UNKNOWN]: I got to be honest, and they gave me a little bit of a, you know, they got that little caffeine.
[UNKNOWN]: Josh.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, because I did have a couple of them and they like, there's like put this in and it will get, well, not quite like that, but I mean, I'm trying to, I tried that.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, God sick.
[UNKNOWN]: But I have a whole later.
[UNKNOWN]: Be careful.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, this is like six milligrams.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, oh, well, I don't know what that means, but.
[UNKNOWN]: That's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Before we get too far, let's talk about this one.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's finally talk about the burgers.
[UNKNOWN]: We are on the end of the day.
[UNKNOWN]: It's one of my favorite staples.
[UNKNOWN]: Bring us back to the center.
[UNKNOWN]: That's tall or not.
[UNKNOWN]: Tell us a little bit about the whistlepig.
[UNKNOWN]: So, right off the bat, it's a ride, which is like, that's my jam, love, rise.
[UNKNOWN]: It's got a high corn bill, which you can taste right up front.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's super sweet, wherever you first drink it, delicious.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's got kind of like a strong oak and a little banana.
[UNKNOWN]: There's some cinnamon loo.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure you picked up on this cinnamon.
[UNKNOWN]: Why do I always pick up on cinnamon?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't get that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's there.
[UNKNOWN]: It's good.
[UNKNOWN]: It's very good.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I don't know what the proof is.
[UNKNOWN]: That's I don't think it's a high proof.
[UNKNOWN]: I it's not super hot.
[UNKNOWN]: I looked at the bottle.
[UNKNOWN]: It was let me reach out to reach out.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was just under I think it was 97 or just under 100.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're 96.56.
[UNKNOWN]: There you go.
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
[UNKNOWN]: There it is.
[UNKNOWN]: Very easy.
[UNKNOWN]: Very drinkable.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I did have this at the
[UNKNOWN]: yeah the piggyback it is yep and i think i have a ball at home too and i might might have to crack that baby open this weekend it's good it's a staple and i was trying to talk to the company about coming up in the sponsor in the ground all right you talked to the CEO or the CEO i was messaging back and forth them on a Sunday uh evening and said hey i i i know the inner circle guys up at
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what they call groundhogs.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: There's whistlepapers.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So we call with that.
[UNKNOWN]: He's really missed that with that not be the most natural sponsor.
[UNKNOWN]: No doubt.
[UNKNOWN]: They should be all over that.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean the groundhog should be coming out with a whistlepig bottle in his hand.
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know his fail.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, you guys got six more weeks of winter, but guess what?
[UNKNOWN]: I got I got a whistlepig.
[UNKNOWN]: I got a whistlepig.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not sure who just deals it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure who just owes it, but I cannot find it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you guys know, I always get captivated a little bit by the color.
[UNKNOWN]: Because it's a visual thing for me.
[UNKNOWN]: And once again, we have just this awesome color, especially with the light that's shining up through.
[UNKNOWN]: And we got, there's Gus.
[UNKNOWN]: Gus is back in, you know, he rolls the cord.
[UNKNOWN]: All the cameras are here.
[UNKNOWN]: He's got new blood with Johnny in the studio.
[UNKNOWN]: Just let him, yeah, just let him help him finish, and he'll go on his way.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's just a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: So we got Johnny in the studio, and John has his signature icy light from our friends down to Pittsburgh Brewing.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And Peter, I apologize.
[UNKNOWN]: I have not gotten back.
[UNKNOWN]: I need to get back.
[UNKNOWN]: Can we are going to schedule our time to come down?
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to kind of, I think I told him I was going to do it a little bit later somewhere because I want to get closer to when they're,
[UNKNOWN]: They released their rye whiskey in the aging process with their new distilleries taking a little Now take some time so they're not going to be releasing their first urban until Spring summer next year.
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
[UNKNOWN]: So we we tasted the the best summer rye and it's it's pretty hot Right?
[UNKNOWN]: We do have a bottle of that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so but yeah John John's an icy light guy Isn't icy light guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.
[UNKNOWN]: Shout out to our friends down at Pittsburgh brewing and cliff force and all those guys down there
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, thank you to Cliff because he saved a brand that was
[UNKNOWN]: Get ready, just about fold up, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: It was kind of a funny iron city story.
[UNKNOWN]: So my mother-in-law was in this weekend, I told her Brad, she's desperate to meet you.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I can't wait to look like I happen.
[UNKNOWN]: She'd love both of you guys, but her mother-in-law?
[UNKNOWN]: My mother-in-law, yeah, she's awesome.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, what is she?
[UNKNOWN]: She was married to Pete Recupero.
[UNKNOWN]: She might age?
[UNKNOWN]: No, she's in her 80s.
[UNKNOWN]: I was gonna say, you don't really like five years over the years.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna say, Harry, you could call me daddy, that's it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'd be honored to do that with a great anyway now so she got to go lay down your she buys her her husband they live in Maryland he loves iron city regular iron city leather so she always makes me go get a case when she's here which is fine so I get out of the beard distributor by a case of her and hers who's in their Tom Parker the names you know Tom's like
[UNKNOWN]: Of course, he's buying a case of Iron City original two bottles.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And I was like, the other chance is two people in a row buying Iron City.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm in the G Iron City.
[UNKNOWN]: The original, I mean, I can remember when I was bartending, we had Iron City.
[UNKNOWN]: And then we had Iron City light, and the light was kind of the new thing at the time.
[UNKNOWN]: This was going back 30 years.
[UNKNOWN]: But, you know, you had two rows of bottles.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a popular beer back then, but I would say this.
[UNKNOWN]: And we were talking about this year and I at the bar, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, I think when Cliff took over,
[UNKNOWN]: it got actually got better.
[UNKNOWN]: No doubt.
[UNKNOWN]: It totally is.
[UNKNOWN]: It's.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not sure what changed.
[UNKNOWN]: Whether it's the, you know, obviously everything's kind of, we talked about the art of the beer right the scientific, the beer with Jay and, and there's, there's something that changed because all of a sudden the beer is like crisp, it's clean.
[UNKNOWN]: It's, it's just a go to,
[UNKNOWN]: I'm talking wire and see you late now.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I'm I'm I'm like your family Perry.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm the OG The Letted Brand.
[UNKNOWN]: If you know John, do you remember when we went to micro wrestling last year?
[UNKNOWN]: What was that when you there?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that was not was in the hiring.
[UNKNOWN]: I was there.
[UNKNOWN]: I'll be laid up
[UNKNOWN]: right you know at that we had a little private ringside at the KCAC for the micro wrestlers and uh it's probably what about 40 of us in our VIP suite there.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we went through like 14 cases of O.G.
[UNKNOWN]: Iron City that night.
[UNKNOWN]: It was full-headed uh yeah actually John John that's kind of a John got to go backstage with the uh I should probably throw that right up there right now over us right.
[UNKNOWN]: He's probably show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me show me
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know why we should reach out to Pittsburgh Brewing and a big cliff would do yeah It sounds like a battle between my two favorite cities between Milwaukee and Pittsburgh so you know, I mean You know, how are we doing on time fair?
[UNKNOWN]: We're running out.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah It's my favorite figure.
[UNKNOWN]: I see Perry getting all the ante when he gets the remote.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you know We're also running on a bourbon, so we're gonna wrap up this segment and we are gonna talk about chat GPT at least one more time
[UNKNOWN]: We should one time in general.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but kind of like, kind of like the evolving AI world chat you beat these got in the left behind.
[UNKNOWN]: And that might actually be the case.
[UNKNOWN]: Always a dog chasing a car.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and there's always a chance to get ahead again.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's the fight that you just keep on fighting.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll be right back at this.
[UNKNOWN]: Cheers.
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[UNKNOWN]: We are still kicking strong.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we've gotten a chance tonight to shout out some amazing folks from Indiana.
[UNKNOWN]: some folks that are surrounding areas and have now left Indiana and going on to greater and bigger things.
[UNKNOWN]: But we're going to, and we've talked about the whistle pick a little bit, which is a, uh, the pick three.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's a three for me.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's, it's a, it's a very flavorful.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a, it's a, it's a great.
[UNKNOWN]: If you're looking for a mid level, not to expense of under $100 bottle, this is highly recommend six year.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a little extra polished to it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think Britishity's gonna come out there and give it a top three.
[UNKNOWN]: I think the cost, I think the cost should factor into the overall rating just like the bottle done.
[UNKNOWN]: I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: I agree, so would you have, if you have, if you're buying a bourbon that's a 40, 50, 60 dollar bottle,
[UNKNOWN]: and it's a very good bourbon that gives it extra points I agree so I think when we do our blind test with our panel of six eight people right sure I think that there should be a fact or so we'll we'll give it we should agree beforehand how price plays into it right that that should be a pre
[UNKNOWN]: determined factored, yeah, I might go the other way on that Brad and say I don't want them to know what the price is.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I agree.
[UNKNOWN]: I think are we talking about novice people or we're talking about us being blindfolded and when we're tasting, let's say, different bottles.
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever the hand pick is of the day of these eight bottles.
[UNKNOWN]: And maybe, you know, there's a
[UNKNOWN]: There's something from the $20 barrel up to the $200 barrel, right, or $200 bottle, I'm sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: And we don't know what we're tasting, and I think that's better.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're going to rate it just purely based on what we're tasting.
[UNKNOWN]: No, exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: So we're saying the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: 100% I think we're saying the same thing.
[UNKNOWN]: And what we're saying beforehand is it may get like an extra kicker if
[UNKNOWN]: If you got a really high score, maybe there's a variable that kicks it up to another gear if it's actually lower on the price point, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I think we're going to have to consult with one of our guru friends that's how we, uh, what we can don't there is, like, maybe blocking up with this right line.
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to have to have Eric.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's no doubt Eric, you're going to be there.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, maybe TJ and hopefully TJ can be there too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, because I'm not going to have a. I'm going to have a guy's coffee.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, we got to have some coffee.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we would definitely need some coffee.
[UNKNOWN]: It's from this is a week ago at coffee still smells awesome that Indiana blend is sitting there We cracked it open.
[UNKNOWN]: We oh my goodness.
[UNKNOWN]: That's like It's like these are the guys we need to be part of the taste test.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think they're the guys that know Yeah, I mean, they're the ones that are tasting excellence every time they deliver it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yep, so Let's let's put a blind test to it though, and let's see how we all do
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going with that, um, uh, you guys know, I keep saying it.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm the novice here.
[UNKNOWN]: So you guys, uh, I'm, I'm going to just fall in lead in.
[UNKNOWN]: You're no longer a burboner.
[UNKNOWN]: You're just, you're just the guy with a boner.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he actually, Louis, Louis reframe that comment.
[UNKNOWN]: Instead of burboner, it's bur, burnovas.
[UNKNOWN]: I love that.
[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, I can't pronounce that.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm not even going to try.
[UNKNOWN]: You see, I haven't a hard enough time with bourbonometer.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to try it.
[UNKNOWN]: You just said it.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, you know, it took me like 18 weeks to get there, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, the problem is usually you're saying it like the fifth segment here, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's when it's way down.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, but this is the verminometer is down, and our spirits are up.
[UNKNOWN]: We are here.
[UNKNOWN]: We are before we go too far down that rabbit hole to the fifth segment.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to get too far away from our core here, which is the chat GPT.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we need to talk about, yeah, we do.
[UNKNOWN]: So I kind of wanted to do kind of like the Letterman list for chat GPT.
[UNKNOWN]: the old gal at the dance, I guess, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to call it, or whatever you want to
[UNKNOWN]: I said, what are the the best five or six qualities of you compared to the other competitors?
[UNKNOWN]: I'll listen to it be good.
[UNKNOWN]: So, judging PG said, the answer to that's one question, right?
[UNKNOWN]: We stand up from the other platforms because we're the best overall conversation quality.
[UNKNOWN]: No, they're not we are, I think we are too.
[UNKNOWN]: That's overall conversation.
[UNKNOWN]: But we're talking to ourselves, Lou, we're not talking to ourselves.
[UNKNOWN]: We're not talking to ourselves, Lou.
[UNKNOWN]: So what's it mean by that?
[UNKNOWN]: If they're saying they're more natural, coherent, context-aware conversation, it feels less robotic.
[UNKNOWN]: Sounds like Sam Altman talking.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to say anything.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, he's interesting.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't, I haven't used them any of them enough to know the difference.
[UNKNOWN]: So, do you know, I don't know, I'm Jocelyn right now, but Chatchee B.T.
[UNKNOWN]: has come on strong.
[UNKNOWN]: It's been kind of been an ebb and floats.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is where competition comes in.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, if you want to show one case where competitions really pushed the competitor to do better, it's been in this AI race, because
[UNKNOWN]: Especially when you took half the team from chat you beat the begin with and went to anthropic and now you're competing against each other And you're saying hey, I got my toes.
[UNKNOWN]: Well guess what it or is it?
[UNKNOWN]: Methos.
[UNKNOWN]: I believe.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not his a mythos.
[UNKNOWN]: Mike.
[UNKNOWN]: I heard I I would like you.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think again, I don't watch the news.
[UNKNOWN]: I try to bury my head just in my computer and I stay focused and trust me, the world's a lot more pleasant.
[UNKNOWN]: If you turn off the news, yeah, when you stay to your self, it tends to be this.
[UNKNOWN]: So, but I go.
[UNKNOWN]: I look at it as Mike those because I'm kind of going back to the Greek mythology.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that kind of where it would almost come from, but maybe not, but you
[UNKNOWN]: It's this tug-of-war back and forth in Chatchee TB 5.5 came out and I played around with that and it's it's equally if not as good as Clyde in all due respect and I've been joking about Chatchee BT.
[UNKNOWN]: that they they really have stepped up their game on the coding and that's where I'm comparing it on the highest level of reasoning where you're analyzing coding when you're talking about financials and and now they're getting into the legal game when you know which is my platform you know so they just hired a gentleman two weeks ago that just sold his company for 3.6 billion
[UNKNOWN]: with a B with a B yeah and I know that this is this is not where it's like chump change yeah or it's like a change to all this and it's not that's not the trillion there's just a small little round you know B yeah so they they brought him on to lead the legal product uh because anthropic is leading that charge
[UNKNOWN]: With their, you know, we talked about with Nick, you know, using Claude, you know, on the financial side on the legal side too.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a very strong platform to use for legal reasoning.
[UNKNOWN]: A highly recommended, but again, just as the Stanford study did out there when you're using any of these, whether it's co pilot, Chatchett BT Claude.
[UNKNOWN]: About a third of the time, it's hallucinations.
[UNKNOWN]: So you got you have to be careful.
[UNKNOWN]: of what you're relying on and what you go to a better third of the time third of the time.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: It is a lot.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, that is put it on.
[UNKNOWN]: You really have to keep an eye on it.
[UNKNOWN]: So tell me, you said hallucination.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's made up.
[UNKNOWN]: It's complete.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's not just made up a little bit.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, if you remember as a kid when you're trying to make a lie and how that lie got so good, the more detailed you got yesterday.
[UNKNOWN]: They usually vol- they usually vol- they usually voles a woman.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: Or in your case, a man there.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, it's a movie.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a movie.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a
[UNKNOWN]: And by the way, he did that triple lindy off that high dive.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, that was when he hit that and with no splash, I bought that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, he went in, I mean, that was a pencil into the water.
[UNKNOWN]: So 30% of the time, these, is it all of them or just jet GPT?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, this is a Stanford study.
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't know all of them in general.
[UNKNOWN]: It's, it's across the board.
[UNKNOWN]: In fact, I just, it's quoted it on my site to, oh, shit.
[UNKNOWN]: It's higher than I thought.
[UNKNOWN]: It is higher.
[UNKNOWN]: If you're relying on it, and this is why attorneys out there, and I'm using my profession as an example because it's been in the headlines, and they've gotten cinched, I mean, they've gotten they're not cinched.
[UNKNOWN]: They're going into court relying on these cases that sound legit because it's not just a little lie that the hallucinations tell them they're saying, oh yeah, by the way, it's this case, and this is why, and they lay out the whole case, I mean, it had been just much easier to find the actual case than actually make up the case, but they make up the whole
[UNKNOWN]: and they make a song legit.
[UNKNOWN]: So unless you're putting your eyes, and if I can tell anybody out there no matter what you're doing, whether it's financial, whether it's legal, whether it's reasoning, whether it's coding, if you are relying on AI, always ask if the ass, and again, probably coding is not the place where you're gonna ask, but you need to ask, for example, on the legal field, I want to see the source.
[UNKNOWN]: Give me the URL to the source, I want to see it.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what I do with my site.
[UNKNOWN]: You review it.
[UNKNOWN]: And then I review it.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's what I've been, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: How does this trickle down to the common person?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, what you're talking about seems to be very high level intellectual stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: But it affects everybody, Lou, because let's say you're putting a pitch together for my ED meds, right?
[UNKNOWN]: OK. And you're relying on it for
[UNKNOWN]: let's say statistics or information that it's drawing that you've asked it to research on, and have you checked on each one of those sources?
[UNKNOWN]: It's interesting that you ask me that because in the pitch deck that we're doing right now, I actually gave it that data that I had researched on my own.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't, again, I'm a bourbon novice.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm an AI novice as well.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm still not trusting everything to just put it all in and help it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's not a silly about thing, because that is context, we talked about prompting early, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So that is context prompting to the T.
[UNKNOWN]: You are delivering it the material that you want it to mold for you.
[UNKNOWN]: Correct.
[UNKNOWN]: So, but you may ask it also once in a while.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the starting point.
[UNKNOWN]: Now, I would like you to go out there and research.
[UNKNOWN]: Is there any other cutting edge stuff?
[UNKNOWN]: There are any other statistics that I'm not maybe aware of that I want to.
[UNKNOWN]: And when it starts going outside of the parameters that you've laid out,
[UNKNOWN]: That's when it has a chance to hallucinate and it also has a chance to hallucinate in any other instance when you're putting it in control of decisions.
[UNKNOWN]: So for example, even in normal marketing let's get to more of the highly regulated because that's that's where it really gets kind of dicey let's talk about hiring okay so we're discrimination comes into play and let's say you trained
[UNKNOWN]: a model or you have a model that is trained on a very diverse group of people so you're saying, look, I want the most diverse group of people.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want it to be biased towards anything, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, over time, let's say that model starts to drift.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you able to watch that model?
[UNKNOWN]: Do you have checks and balances in place to realize when that model is drifting?
[UNKNOWN]: Are you able to realize when maybe now it's using data that has become
[UNKNOWN]: almost, I want to say obscure but tainted and and that's what happens with these models is it's they start to build on their own and they start to to
[UNKNOWN]: You know, we talked about the inference level, you know, earlier, Perry, where they start growing on there.
[UNKNOWN]: But they're always looking to, well, these new models are always looking to get better and perform better and how do they do that.
[UNKNOWN]: So, sometimes they go outside the box as you gave it, you know, you gave them this very confined box.
[UNKNOWN]: Sometimes they go outside that box and when they drift outside that box, then bias, nisking can happen, discrimination can happen, and then who's liable for that?
[UNKNOWN]: Are you going to point at the machine?
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's going to be the operator.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be the company that's in control, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So do you think the, is it, why would it be the company in control and not the, well, I guess they're in lies, the beauty of the legal system, you can debate it forever.
[UNKNOWN]: Why would the company I was going to ask the company in control or me who gave it the information and said, this is what I want and then I didn't verify.
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's probably going to be both.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's probably going to be you as the company that bought this platform, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: We're lying on what they told you it was going to do.
[UNKNOWN]: And then it didn't perform up to specs or there's some major issue that comes down in line.
[UNKNOWN]: And that's kind of what's playing out right now in the courts.
[UNKNOWN]: It's starting to trickle through as we see it, you know, and believe it or not, it's not small instances.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there are some major, major footballs going on.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's some major hallucinations going on.
[UNKNOWN]: Why?
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't have any more time with that.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'll send you guys a couple examples tomorrow morning, because I mean, I've seen them come through the headlines, but right now my mind is kind of a burden-blooded.
[UNKNOWN]: But, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is one of the things though, the way you just presented that, this is what we'll keep humans and everybody's worried about AI putting humans out of work and whatnot.
[UNKNOWN]: But this to me sounds like what we'll keep humans involved.
[UNKNOWN]: Because we have to be the stoplights.
[UNKNOWN]: the double checker stop lights and there is no traffic flow and right you become an asker where everybody's feeling it feeling it until somebody slightly off and then all of us on it's a crash so humans will actually become the stop lights and the traffic lights of the flow of AI.
[UNKNOWN]: the human in the loop is absolutely necessary.
[UNKNOWN]: I've said that from day one and it's more important even now as it's progressed even even in the even the midst of the shadows of my thoughts even in the midst of uh the IPO is going to happen and I'm sure there's going to be some more great announcements coming in the weeks to come.
[UNKNOWN]: There still needs to be that human Burrometer just like the Burrometer.
[UNKNOWN]: That's does he say right there Perry.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he's a brahmeter.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I know, but that would know, but then he said just like the bourbon, I'm not.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm in there.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Out of the way.
[UNKNOWN]: Did I hit both of you?
[UNKNOWN]: I think you did.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like good as that.
[UNKNOWN]: It's Mitch.
[UNKNOWN]: That is a first.
[UNKNOWN]: Better encapsulate that one and put that one on there.
[UNKNOWN]: course segment he hit both of us marks no so so do you think the the interrupt the these AI systems learn as they learn they determine the term that I don't know their programmer or their their their master for like a better word
[UNKNOWN]: wants to hear a certain result.
[UNKNOWN]: So they try to frame their results to please you.
[UNKNOWN]: I think I think they're rewarding a rewarded on a, well, they call it a token system, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So it's based on a positive negative kind of feedback.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's like training a dog.
[UNKNOWN]: No, a little bit, maybe a little bit more in that.
[UNKNOWN]: And so when you're doing that, then much like,
[UNKNOWN]: was a Microsoft or was an Apple where the old kind of figured out last week in the headlines and I just caught it in passing because again, I haven't been watching them, I just saw it.
[UNKNOWN]: We're the whole employee base figured out how the the rating system went, I didn't hear about that.
[UNKNOWN]: They figured out we're just going to well now we know how they're doing how to game it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we know how to game it kind of went against the whole purpose of there, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So they that's funny.
[UNKNOWN]: They got rid of it.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's much it's much like that.
[UNKNOWN]: I think and maybe I'm very green under the gills when it comes to it.
[UNKNOWN]: Because again, I don't know the under belly of what's going on, but I do know it's a reward versus a negative system.
[UNKNOWN]: And so they're always looking for that reward.
[UNKNOWN]: And sometimes that comes at a cost and I think you've heard it in the headlines where they kind of almost overcome it, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So they're or a police and they always tell you what you want to hear versus what maybe you need to hear right or what they tell you what they think you want to hear on that.
[UNKNOWN]: So when you guys say that you're referring to your agents and your what the chat GPT so that and there you go, I said it one more time.
[UNKNOWN]: So that that's us talking about it, but
[UNKNOWN]: The co-pilot, Claude, you get to the impression you're not a big fan.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not a big fan.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm a huge fan that Chatchy PT laid the brickwork, but they did, but they're still under the ground.
[UNKNOWN]: It's worth it.
[UNKNOWN]: And frankly, I don't concern of the... And frankly, I've major ones that I'm familiar with, they seem to be number five.
[UNKNOWN]: They're on the lower end, I think, in performance level.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I will get them credit where this credits do it, and their code X has come up on strong.
[UNKNOWN]: I have not used it, but again, these platforms are kind of insetuous.
[UNKNOWN]: So when you, for example, an anthropic cursor, if you use up your tokens,
[UNKNOWN]: on their models, you can go down to Chatchee PT 5.5.
[UNKNOWN]: So that's kind of like a, and I've used 5.5.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, well, that's, if you don't look that way, come down here, we'll, we'll try to help you.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I, I, I, Perry, what your question was, do they tell you what you want to hear?
[UNKNOWN]: They do.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: And what I just heard from you is about tokens.
[UNKNOWN]: So let me get this straight.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, I'm, this is not my world.
[UNKNOWN]: My world is different, but so you're suggesting that,
[UNKNOWN]: The more the platform pleases me, the more tokens I buy to get more pleasure from their AI.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that how they create their revenue model?
[UNKNOWN]: It's like given my blind tokens.
[UNKNOWN]: So I've given the dog a biscuit.
[UNKNOWN]: Lily, picture this.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: The perfect circle jerk.
[UNKNOWN]: I was trying to be so technical, John, you know, I don't know where.
[UNKNOWN]: He just will, I don't know where we got to a circle.
[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna bring it back to you.
[UNKNOWN]: I wasn't gonna bring it back to you that explicit, take for nothing, right?
[UNKNOWN]: You guys are all listening, well, this is pretty clean.
[UNKNOWN]: I gotta be honest, you know.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but we're gonna have to ask our fans to weigh in.
[UNKNOWN]: How much circle jerk do you want?
[UNKNOWN]: How much Brainiac do you want?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it is the perfect circle jerk because... Because there's no start, there's no end.
[UNKNOWN]: No, there's not.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just kind of a continual jerk.
[UNKNOWN]: So, just picture this.
[UNKNOWN]: Just a continual hand.
[UNKNOWN]: like around a steering wheel just jerking all the way around on a rick on a right turn.
[UNKNOWN]: Louie, who's too hand?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, he's no finger for that.
[UNKNOWN]: Clearly, Louie has not been in well, Louie, not in the middle of it.
[UNKNOWN]: That's what we're lucky is to have
[UNKNOWN]: Those of us who are blessed used to it.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: So anyways, I do think there's a self-fulfilling profit C going on here because the models are being rewarded based on performance and based on feedback from the users, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So the more they please the user and they're asking for instant gratification, are you happy with the way the model performed and you've got to
[UNKNOWN]: either hit the thumbs up or thumbs down and then they'll ask you for a comment, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So but they monetize that.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, they do because the more you use it, okay, you're either going to upgrade to the next plan to continue to use it, or you're going to start paying for token.
[UNKNOWN]: So once you've maxed out, then the only way for you to keep going is you're going to keep paying more.
[UNKNOWN]: So yes, it is a
[UNKNOWN]: sounds like a strip club to make that's exactly what I'm talking about.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like the perfect circle trick.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah I know no I this is all just coming together based on Perry's question and because I had never even thought about it in that context.
[UNKNOWN]: Do they tell you what you want to hear so they they have to many times yes not all the time so they have to weave that with fact right.
[UNKNOWN]: They do so well and and also it weaves it depending on what you ask it.
[UNKNOWN]: So, and that's where the prompting comes in.
[UNKNOWN]: And it's very important, and I'm sure if you've been on social media, you'll see all these guys pitching, it's all about the prompts, right?
[UNKNOWN]: It's all about how you ask it.
[UNKNOWN]: These are the perfect prompts.
[UNKNOWN]: This is the most, how do you, how do you get the most of that chat?
[UNKNOWN]: You beat the, how do you get the most of that cloud?
[UNKNOWN]: And, and they're right to a certain extent, because if you're not asking the right questions and you're not putting them to task,
[UNKNOWN]: And many times, I'll ask him the hard question and say, listen, this isn't working.
[UNKNOWN]: You've told me this isn't working.
[UNKNOWN]: So I want you to be brutally honest with me right now, and sometimes that's the question you need to ask is just so you're totally conversive with this.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, yeah, it's a conversive conversation.
[UNKNOWN]: So it's just like you and I are conversing right now, that's all you have to put in the box.
[UNKNOWN]: And you don't even have to type it in the box.
[UNKNOWN]: You can just now talk into the box.
[UNKNOWN]: I know, it's that easy.
[UNKNOWN]: So I would
[UNKNOWN]: I'm encouraging you to just try it.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I try it, but I am just trying it.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think you'll get lost.
[UNKNOWN]: And once you do get lost, and that right at home, call me up, I'll be happy to come over and help you because it's a fascinating time that we're in right now where you can create something that you never thought you had the capability of creating.
[UNKNOWN]: Man, think about what this could do for mental health and loneliness.
[UNKNOWN]: All of a sudden, you've got a person basically that you can talk with.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a big part of the laws that are being passed out there right now across the States and because there are companies that are putting these like chat, GPT bots that are conversing with people.
[UNKNOWN]: And the problem with it is there's been some very bad outcomes.
[UNKNOWN]: A couple of them said, well, if you're thinking about hurting yourself and go do it.
[UNKNOWN]: And this is how I can help you do it.
[UNKNOWN]: So you can see why.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, no, yeah, I see how that came with the sideways.
[UNKNOWN]: There's, there's lawsuits pending, no, with chatGPT and, and so anthropic brought in, you know, 15 Christian leaders to try to train their models on how to deal with self-healing, how to deal with difficult, you know, positions and chatGPT hired the,
[UNKNOWN]: uh, philosopher right from, uh, Cambridge, I think it was.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, that was just, uh, recently.
[UNKNOWN]: These, these are all efforts to try to train their models to be more, is it empathetic?
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe or, or how to deal with very tough situations.
[UNKNOWN]: So whether, if somebody's coming at you with, not, not the easy question, not, not how do I fix this email or how do I do?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm having life problems, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: No, that's why I said, I mean, I think it's going to be mental health.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it is, and so there's obviously a dark side of that.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a dark side of that.
[UNKNOWN]: And there has been a dark side already.
[UNKNOWN]: And there's been, there's been instances that if you go look and search in the news, it's, it's, it's not pleasant.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, there have been real, real harms that have been done.
[UNKNOWN]: And whether it's because of the AI, it certainly hasn't helped, because maybe it encouraged.
[UNKNOWN]: At a moment of weakness, you know, so is that you should what you're at your weakest, you know, so if you're looking for that support and also it's like, oh yeah, yeah, it's not the sport I was really looking for, but now it kind of pushed and then.
[UNKNOWN]: With with that being said, there's been a very big response back from the States to say, you know, what AI cannot be a mental health, you know, counselor, because there's there's platforms out there that are saying that you, you can sign up for this mental health, but it's not really a mental health therapist behind it.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just AI.
[UNKNOWN]: I have some thoughts that you and I are going to talk about between segments here that it's just kind of hit me some things that it's like a eureka moment that I have, I don't want to give it away.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going to be huge.
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to be big for five because we're just about, we're just about out of four.
[UNKNOWN]: Just about four.
[UNKNOWN]: We ought to begin.
[UNKNOWN]: That's amazing.
[UNKNOWN]: 27 minutes.
[UNKNOWN]: It goes fast.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, hey, for you regular listeners, you've heard Brad laugh, we just had 30 seconds of the quietest.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna call it a gigal, whatever the hell it was.
[UNKNOWN]: It was, he was rolling and you couldn't hear him.
[UNKNOWN]: He laughed so hard.
[UNKNOWN]: It was silent.
[UNKNOWN]: He laughed so hard, he laughed himself to silence.
[UNKNOWN]: I honestly haven't, I haven't left that hard and I don't know how long.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even remember what Major laughing hard, but it was funny.
[UNKNOWN]: Talking about the head of my bar, it was a harman.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you think you know, Amy knows the head on Louis, bourbon?
[UNKNOWN]: There it is.
[UNKNOWN]: He says this is like beer, I was like, nobody will notice.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that a boy.
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody loves the color on the bourbon.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a 9th segment.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a 17th segment.
[UNKNOWN]: We're, we're climbing.
[UNKNOWN]: This is good to do even if we talk about this.
[UNKNOWN]: This, this Burman's awesome, but, you know, the Burman Islander is not as dumb as it usually is.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, we're down a guy.
[UNKNOWN]: And we know why.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we know.
[UNKNOWN]: Mr.
[UNKNOWN]: Cool, he's not an house.
[UNKNOWN]: And we know where you're at, and then God, you were done at the Pirates game tonight, because that's what they want.
[UNKNOWN]: And then you come back and speak the Dodgers.
[UNKNOWN]: We scored three in a eighth and five and ninth, and I think something like that.
[UNKNOWN]: And we beat the Dodgers.
[UNKNOWN]: I know Tony tonight.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So our friend Eric is a good luck track.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's a great luck track.
[UNKNOWN]: But okay, so you guys would be here a couple of weeks now.
[UNKNOWN]: Eric, and we know that two or three inches in that bottle is what Eric would just
[UNKNOWN]: absorb, and then would have Tony's taste, so we're about right where we should be.
[UNKNOWN]: I think we're right where we should be, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I don't know, Eric's a wildguard.
[UNKNOWN]: He could drink half a bottle himself.
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like half the size of all of us.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but he's an experienced bourbon drinker.
[UNKNOWN]: You know?
[UNKNOWN]: Clearly, he's a roly travel.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's put that way, right?
[UNKNOWN]: So he's his.
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like I'm kind of new at the game because I only got into drinking bourbon when my wife was like, hey, look, I like bourbon.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to chew like this.
[UNKNOWN]: Is that my, I don't know, I guess I'm in.
[UNKNOWN]: So, so that was the first poke
[UNKNOWN]: The second one was him rod rod said we're going to start a bourbon club and I said Don't that sounds awesome sure.
[UNKNOWN]: Let's do it.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I've bourbon club tomorrow night don't you?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, we have those we have a great steak tomorrow So do you understand what that steak is fair?
[UNKNOWN]: Because I know you're a steak guy.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, oh, man, Paris You're about to experience something really cool.
[UNKNOWN]: I know that's a prime rib cap.
[UNKNOWN]: I've never heard of this so so that's the best part of the prime should if you ever order a prime rib
[UNKNOWN]: Like a big king sized primary bit of restaurant and it's a big piece of meat and there's that strip around the the one side That's the super tasty and tender part.
[UNKNOWN]: That's the rib cap.
[UNKNOWN]: That's amazing And what is the part that he's rolling is there's something that he's doing on top of the cap I'm just thinking of the cap.
[UNKNOWN]: I have no idea how to do it.
[UNKNOWN]: You're probably just thinking of the cap That's because I see a gig in that I'm completely new at this so
[UNKNOWN]: There's not very many restaurants where you can go and order that.
[UNKNOWN]: It has to be pretty eye-and-stake house.
[UNKNOWN]: So when Roger said this, I never heard of it.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, you're going to be so happy.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, it's making up for that issue.
[UNKNOWN]: We had a couple months ago, remember, when we ordered, I don't remember what it was.
[UNKNOWN]: And, uh, Tall the Hawks, maybe, and they didn't come in.
[UNKNOWN]: Remember that?
[UNKNOWN]: I think this has been making up for that.
[UNKNOWN]: And these are probably not cheap.
[UNKNOWN]: no this stuff is forty dollars a pound you guys uh... you guys i don't know what tomorrow is a built-in is tomorrow night but uh... it's good it's a good piece of meat make sure it's cooked bread don't of course that well that the chef is there's blood coming out the chef is he knows i'll be uh... on the floor
[UNKNOWN]: if he cuts anything open.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've been fortunate actually.
[UNKNOWN]: Mr. Marno is this, it's not Mr. Marno first of all.
[UNKNOWN]: So usually usually, usually we're in a problem rib.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, there it goes, it's usually prime rib is pretty rare.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's probably why I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, so it's also Perry for people who haven't had prime rib, like a domonico, and a domonico steak is that same section.
[UNKNOWN]: I think a domonico is basically the same.
[UNKNOWN]: close to the same part of a prime rib, but it is the absolute best and I've this, there's a brand out there called Snake River Farms.
[UNKNOWN]: It is just, I'm going to tell you.
[UNKNOWN]: American way, I do.
[UNKNOWN]: It is the most unbelievable.
[UNKNOWN]: Once you have it, you're not going to go back to any other kind of beef.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just, it's one of the best places.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You're going to laser a little bland, but they're tender.
[UNKNOWN]: This is like the mix of both, it's.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, you guys are going to have a good time tomorrow.
[UNKNOWN]: It's really good, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Look for it.
[UNKNOWN]: And to be honest, I thought I'd try to every kind of steak.
[UNKNOWN]: But this is cool to be able to try something.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you guys doing karaoke tomorrow night?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I think we are.
[UNKNOWN]: It's a good start.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you a bourbon clubber?
[UNKNOWN]: about if you want a good steak comes my guest they have extras yeah we do have extras you want to come the meals could be said when i started this john i was a bourbon rookie too and now look at me the boner boner boner boner boner night he's a bourbon owner
[UNKNOWN]: I started out as a vibrator, then I was a bourbon novice.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he does own a niche.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I'll be next.
[UNKNOWN]: I like the bourbon novice.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I like the bourbon novice.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, I was thinking too about Dr. Rich.
[UNKNOWN]: You guys missed a complete marketing play with him.
[UNKNOWN]: How so?
[UNKNOWN]: It should be Dr. Dick.
[UNKNOWN]: Actually, it's valid.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, well, there's no question now, right?
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I'm gonna, I'll broach that issue in our next one.
[UNKNOWN]: Good morning.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you bring that up for me?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I wish can be scrambled.
[UNKNOWN]: You scrambled your name.
[UNKNOWN]: You mean, you big dick.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Doctor, I'm sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: Not big.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll call you Doctor Day.
[UNKNOWN]: He was one of the funnier ones on the...
[UNKNOWN]: I think he doesn't even drink.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: He was perfect.
[UNKNOWN]: So where's the day is long and... Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to tell you rich man's.
[UNKNOWN]: He is one of the most awesome dudes.
[UNKNOWN]: We need that.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Would love to have him back on.
[UNKNOWN]: You miss you brother.
[UNKNOWN]: You know that was a you were you were a trooper especially in the fifth segment.
[UNKNOWN]: So Shadow to you and I'm just trying to throw a little marketing play.
[UNKNOWN]: I just think it should be dark to dick least on the ED side of this He may have to run his He's gonna have to run his by his wife
[UNKNOWN]: his son will be saying this is the brads of him please don't do a podcast on the college yeah that was and on this is an honest story so i have been a completely offensively i was done tanya i actually bought a microphone that's my about that microphone sits back up there on on the back of the uh... uh... the bar and i'm like you know i'm gonna start a podcast you know because the meme world's gonna treat me really well i've got 250 thousand followers
[UNKNOWN]: What are you looking for?
[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking is Gus floating.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, it's a big of himself coming up.
[UNKNOWN]: He's sitting back there and had high leather.
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he looks good, don't he?
[UNKNOWN]: He's a big doll.
[UNKNOWN]: He's the king, man.
[UNKNOWN]: Right next to the leg, uh, Perry's leg.
[UNKNOWN]: Man, that's for you, like, he's gonna start helping it pretty soon.
[UNKNOWN]: No, no.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's taking the on the balance.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Man, if he passes gas on that chair, he's gonna melt the leather.
[UNKNOWN]: Anyways, so, uh,
[UNKNOWN]: Where was I going with this story?
[UNKNOWN]: I had a lot to talk about.
[UNKNOWN]: It's Dr. Rich.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, Dr. Rich, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, you know, he was here.
[UNKNOWN]: And I just think, you know, it makes sense with when you're pitching burbleners.
[UNKNOWN]: And like, how you doing, you're pal?
[UNKNOWN]: I think he's lost.
[UNKNOWN]: I think he lost a lot, but I got to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: Stupid piggyback.
[UNKNOWN]: Think you back.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I got to be honest.
[UNKNOWN]: I got a little lost in the Lake Lamp.
[UNKNOWN]: Every time I look over your shoulder and I see your leg is like, you know, it happens.
[UNKNOWN]: It's like mesmerizing.
[UNKNOWN]: I had to take a picture.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm throwing that up right now.
[UNKNOWN]: You ain't on throwing that up right now because it's gonna make the final bit.
[UNKNOWN]: It was definitely making the final edit because No, I know.
[UNKNOWN]: Gus is sniffing it.
[UNKNOWN]: Uh-oh.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Mitch.
[UNKNOWN]: Just look at his face like, why are you all looking at me?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Tell me about your back and your golf game.
[UNKNOWN]: Are you back?
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm back.
[UNKNOWN]: My golf game's not really back, but I'm back.
[UNKNOWN]: My back feels great.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm down 15 pounds.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I feel better.
[UNKNOWN]: It's felt.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah?
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know about that.
[UNKNOWN]: But I feel better.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so I feel like I'm, you know, where the,
[UNKNOWN]: You know how the Burbranometer was going down to scale was going up and I'm like, it's horrible feeling when you're at a knee surgery last year.
[UNKNOWN]: I had a back surgery.
[UNKNOWN]: So I was in mobile without pain, you know, and unless I was on a bunch of ibuprofen, it just wasn't understood.
[UNKNOWN]: No, and I like how it's a way from that.
[UNKNOWN]: So I feel your brother.
[UNKNOWN]: So I live through the pain and every time I even walked around the yard once it was like,
[UNKNOWN]: had to pick up anything off the ground.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a painful.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I can't even explain the painfulness of it.
[UNKNOWN]: So you weren't cutting the grass?
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I had to write it a long worse.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I could do that.
[UNKNOWN]: But I mean, when any time I had to bend over and do anything on the other other other side of the wall, yeah, it trouble.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it was trouble.
[UNKNOWN]: You know, so anything outside riding, yeah, trouble.
[UNKNOWN]: So,
[UNKNOWN]: So you're able to play golf again.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm really going to be back.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going back.
[UNKNOWN]: And we do have action right on Friday.
[UNKNOWN]: We do know we've shared it in the fundraiser event.
[UNKNOWN]: Our group against her group.
[UNKNOWN]: $100 dollars to whoever's charity.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm in.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, we have action on who's going to win the.
[UNKNOWN]: how that play out he's a championship or something he wouldn't do we repeat it out and who's I was I was I was pulling for Justin Rose yeah you were pulling for I think I sheffler I had to have a bottom up got her up yeah and you had sheffler so who wants who who finished highest well pull that up got her up
[UNKNOWN]: D. I don't know.
[UNKNOWN]: He was a better answer.
[UNKNOWN]: He was a god or a.
[UNKNOWN]: He was right up there the whole time.
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't win, but he was honestly.
[UNKNOWN]: He was on a leaderboard.
[UNKNOWN]: I forgot about our little friendly fifth segment bet, but yeah, just.
[UNKNOWN]: But that was another charity.
[UNKNOWN]: Another charity.
[UNKNOWN]: One of us is 150 bucks to someone.
[UNKNOWN]: But I think we needed to pay it up, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Who finished?
[UNKNOWN]: That was no.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a P.J.
[UNKNOWN]: championship.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so it was, what was our, what was our win now?
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we need to roll back that foot of shit.
[UNKNOWN]: Roll back that beautiful bean footage.
[UNKNOWN]: You let up that pair.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we call it even, we all just kick in to charity.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think we should all just kick in on our bucks and say it's good.
[UNKNOWN]: Chefler won.
[UNKNOWN]: Chefler won?
[UNKNOWN]: No, he didn't win.
[UNKNOWN]: No, he didn't.
[UNKNOWN]: Wait, hold on, we specify the year, 2026.
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if it was some next thing he's going to hear an Aaron Rye one Aaron Rye.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a two glove guy No, but the bet was whoever finished highest right right so wrong was third Thomas fourth Hmm, why is it saying player name where the hell why is it not showing me for the complete list?
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's right, J.T.
[UNKNOWN]: finished early.
[UNKNOWN]: He shot, I think, 65 or last round.
[UNKNOWN]: Memory had to sit there the whole day.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Because he was one of the early finishers.
[UNKNOWN]: This is best finished five years.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he might have had a few burblers.
[UNKNOWN]: Tom, this was tied for fourth.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, T4.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: So, right, wrong, smallly, Thomas, four results.
[UNKNOWN]: My God, why doesn't it feel hard to find?
[UNKNOWN]: There we go.
[UNKNOWN]: Auburn, Schmidt, Smith, Macaroid,
[UNKNOWN]: Got her up was 10th there.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so I'm the best finish.
[UNKNOWN]: He was the best out of the three of us.
[UNKNOWN]: That's right.
[UNKNOWN]: So what team would you like us and Justin Rose was was right below him actually they tied They were tied for 10th.
[UNKNOWN]: We're a Sheffler finish that day.
[UNKNOWN]: So Brad loses.
[UNKNOWN]: Sheffler was tied for 14th.
[UNKNOWN]: Some Brad loses.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, so would you like me very where do we want him to send his donation?
[UNKNOWN]: Let's pick a charity.
[UNKNOWN]: Pick a charity.
[UNKNOWN]: A local
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, well, no, not necessarily, Mitch, Mitch.
[UNKNOWN]: How about, uh, I don't, I don't, I don't draw on a blank right now.
[UNKNOWN]: How about, how about the, the Chubby, Chubby, Chase community.
[UNKNOWN]: I would love that our friend Paula.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I would love to.
[UNKNOWN]: I would love to.
[UNKNOWN]: There we go.
[UNKNOWN]: Or Paul, you know, so yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: I think perfect.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you, Scotty.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: And thank you, Scotty, for not performing this stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: Again, I got a boy, Chris got her up.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm pretty sure it was Ted Scott's fault, again.
[UNKNOWN]: Take 100 dollars.
[UNKNOWN]: I just can't get her a little bit of him as a fan.
[UNKNOWN]: I just,
[UNKNOWN]: Well, if you see him going to his caddy this last weekend, um, I did I heard about it.
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't see it.
[UNKNOWN]: But I can't it was a pretty it was intense because it was it wasn't yelling, but he wasn't letting off.
[UNKNOWN]: So it would be like you it would be like you and I come bursting and going.
[UNKNOWN]: Luke, I just hit the freaking most perfect shot.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I hit the most perfect shot.
[UNKNOWN]: I hit it at the green.
[UNKNOWN]: Brad, that was an amazing shot.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, and in Ted was an answer, okay?
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[UNKNOWN]: I got your boss.
[UNKNOWN]: It was a bad break.
[UNKNOWN]: The wind came up.
[UNKNOWN]: You had you.
[UNKNOWN]: You hit it perfectly.
[UNKNOWN]: That wind out of the right.
[UNKNOWN]: It was it was kicking up this bitch.
[UNKNOWN]: Mother Nature.
[UNKNOWN]: Just a little dust from the other nature shows up when we at least expect her right.
[UNKNOWN]: See your answer, but hit a good shot.
[UNKNOWN]: But Ted was not answering.
[UNKNOWN]: He was he was staying quite.
[UNKNOWN]: So this is Scottie talking to himself.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe Scottie didn't hit it that well.
[UNKNOWN]: Ted.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I think Scottie had a great, but he I think he hit a little
[UNKNOWN]: with that right wind and it just blew it over enough that you hit that left side of the green and it popped right into the water.
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, shit happens in golf, man.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a story of my game.
[UNKNOWN]: But you know, what's kidding?
[UNKNOWN]: My game sucks.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to do that.
[UNKNOWN]: Good.
[UNKNOWN]: And that was the same reason it's got to get pulled over in that term.
[UNKNOWN]: Because, you know, that wind was blown.
[UNKNOWN]: No, but it's not the reason you got pulled over.
[UNKNOWN]: That was 80.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm in the morning.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not Tiger Woods.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, it's harsh.
[UNKNOWN]: No, I'm sorry, Tiger.
[UNKNOWN]: You got to come back from Switzerland eventually.
[UNKNOWN]: We love you, Tiger.
[UNKNOWN]: We do.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, but back to Scott.
[UNKNOWN]: I just can't, as a fan.
[UNKNOWN]: I just can't say, yeah, I want to go and celebrate with this dude.
[UNKNOWN]: I want to have fun.
[UNKNOWN]: It's just like he's too,
[UNKNOWN]: block robotic.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm I don't know that he's robotic, but he's so bland.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, his interaction with his caddy that we were just kind of role-playing was the most emotion I've seen him even more so even when interacting with that officer.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm in the morning.
[UNKNOWN]: It's okay, sir.
[UNKNOWN]: Yep.
[UNKNOWN]: Whatever.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe that's why I like my man got her a piece.
[UNKNOWN]: He's a little bit, uh, he's not built like, uh, who's saying bolder anything and he has an unconventional swing.
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm looking for personality.
[UNKNOWN]: Me too.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[UNKNOWN]: And I think about her up as that.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: He's not living by the edge a little bit, you know, just at least living with their emotions on this leaf.
[UNKNOWN]: And it seems like none of the golfers, they don't wear their emotions anymore.
[UNKNOWN]: Perhaps that's what it takes to be what they are.
[UNKNOWN]: But is that really what it takes or I don't know, maybe it does.
[UNKNOWN]: Apparently it does.
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we need to have a cyclotherapist on and we need to, who said, I, we need to happy Gilmore, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, yeah, well, Barker, who, oh, Barker?
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I hate Doppel, but I don't care if I do with.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, is that from the movie?
[UNKNOWN]: That is from the movie.
[UNKNOWN]: I totally missed that, Paris.
[UNKNOWN]: Kind of like, Mom.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Mom.
[UNKNOWN]: Me be low.
[UNKNOWN]: He loves.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just going to say meatball.
[UNKNOWN]: I know.
[UNKNOWN]: We just, you see, we just brought Louis up this feed on that one.
[UNKNOWN]: That's a, that's a class.
[UNKNOWN]: If you haven't seen old school mine.
[UNKNOWN]: Did you see a full swing season three when, when, uh, uh, what's his name?
[UNKNOWN]: It was picking the team for the rider cup team and, and God are up was a,
[UNKNOWN]: No, and he and got her up was was on the short list, but didn't make it and it was interesting to see Well, you know he picked up Bradley, you know, he did a really a job of he was really good at having the calls with the guys that didn't didn't make the team It's really good It's really good He was on the receiving end of that once yeah
[UNKNOWN]: Exactly.
[UNKNOWN]: I think it was the year before right.
[UNKNOWN]: Probably was yeah, it was good season 3's really Yeah, I'm gonna have to watch that.
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't watched since season 1 hate I missed a shout out by the way I got her up's college coach who robbed shoot at Rutgers.
[UNKNOWN]: Oh
[UNKNOWN]: Big 10 coach of the year this year no, yes, I right first Rutgers There an up and coming golf program out there.
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm going to shout out to my man coach shoot.
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think it's shoot or shooty He's gonna he'll tell me tomorrow, but yeah, he's the Correct, yeah cuz I'm on colluding him to and No, but the Rutgers golf coach big 10 reviews with the uncle Lou
[UNKNOWN]: I thought that's Uncle Louie.
[UNKNOWN]: My my guys from our ranch.
[UNKNOWN]: That's Louie.
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's where we got the little like this old boy.
[UNKNOWN]: And those are your boys, too.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Lou and Carlo.
[UNKNOWN]: We need to have them on the show.
[UNKNOWN]: Those guys rock.
[UNKNOWN]: If you ever have a chance here, they play a couple of shows in South Florida during the winter, but they're generally up in the East Coast.
[UNKNOWN]: The Uncle Louie variety show.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I grew up and you're e that's, you know, yeah, I love these guys over the airways, right?
[UNKNOWN]: Chester, Syracuse, and it works out real well because Carlos, a big time Buffalo Bill's fan.
[UNKNOWN]: My man, Lou is a, he's a stealer fan, like you can't believe, so we have one of the guys that are written for what we have to figure out what's the pattern.
[UNKNOWN]: It's going back in.
[UNKNOWN]: There's a lot of patch for going over our steelers, but yeah, the only variety of stuff you have to have a chance to watch
[UNKNOWN]: they are a quintessential Italian heritage old school, Italian heritage, they play themselves, they play their ants and you know how old Italian ants are, the Zia's, they're pretty damn cool stuff.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's old school.
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I grew up with that, you know?
[UNKNOWN]: Old school.
[UNKNOWN]: Mark, look at us.
[UNKNOWN]: Meatball, Meatball, no!
[UNKNOWN]: Or if you want the balls, you can add the balls too much.
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry.
[UNKNOWN]: We'll give you the loaf in the balls.
[UNKNOWN]: We're done.
[UNKNOWN]: Mom!
[UNKNOWN]: It's at the end of the up zone.
[UNKNOWN]: See you next week.
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks.
[UNKNOWN]: Cheers.
[UNKNOWN]: Just as Donnie's coming down the stairs.
[UNKNOWN]: Put the meat a little.
[UNKNOWN]: Perfect.
[UNKNOWN]: I love it.
[UNKNOWN]: See you next week.
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