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[SPEAKER_00]: Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Music Welcome to 40-K-Lore cast with me, John Barsadian, Brad Chester.
[SPEAKER_00]: The word bears, and I do like their deeded summoning stuff, now they're actually the problem with word bears is actually everything except for the Lord God is kind of cool about them.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that they have the worst primarke.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually viewed though.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not as bad as the night lords in the fact that you, who did you choose to be part of your legion?
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's up there as far as, yeah man, went down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, do f**k.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they're better than networks.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Nailorists, they're, they're, they're, they're pure evil.
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are, they're just, we'll get into it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're a bit weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying to their period, they started this period.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they started as a bunch of probable going to win when they chose it.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is setting yourself up for failure when you went, who's part of this Legion?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, yeah, that's going to not work, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, not at all.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Allen, she just deepo, Allen, what happened?
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: My friend, Brad and my, I said you too.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I said Brad and my morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never been wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll never be wrong again.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I've never mind.
[SPEAKER_00]: My go-to thing is I've been wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we really going to add ears to not working to the rest of your organs?
[SPEAKER_00]: You're running out of functioning pieces.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, I have a funny story.
[SPEAKER_00]: You might be worth nothing on the black market.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your body is worth nothing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, you're going to do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I've ever told you this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm telling people because it's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have great hearing, however, since some of my last things, no, I don't have spatial hearing anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I hear like a loud noise, I don't know where it's coming from, and actually screws up my video game playing because directional stuff messes up me up.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is why I love you as a friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just to follow through with you today, I have great something followed by but it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like however I can hear things very well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just now you can't do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no you can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the Zulander school.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I go to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, we're kidding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: A place I did not know existed until I wrote these notes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, welcome to Learning with John.
[SPEAKER_00]: Turns out during the 500 years more.
[SPEAKER_00]: French just didn't notice a bunch of islands off their coast or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't figure this out.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like white-off lip-u.
[SPEAKER_00]: But their British sort of, it's a parliamentary constitutional monarchy, which sounds fancy, but it's just what Britain, Belgium, Spain, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Luxembourg, Monaco, Cambodia, Thailand, Australia, and most of the world have.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the Bollywood concurrency is a independent, very much so-ish country in the middle of the channel.
[SPEAKER_00]: that are not part of the UK, but the UK is totally responsible for all of their international stuff including a military.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess quam?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Their history is cool though.
[SPEAKER_00]: When William invaded England in 1066, he missed these islands.
[SPEAKER_00]: So all the Normans stayed there and they got to stay British.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then later they joined the rest of the UK and became an independent
[SPEAKER_00]: And we had some listeners there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I know that an R, you with me about this, and I look forward to the comments and discord.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's unready for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But fun facts about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a pretty independent place.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Victor Hugo actually lived there during political exile.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's where he wrote their miss.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because Bobby Wach's wanted is a spot that really accepts free speech.
[SPEAKER_00]: They also have one of the highest life expectancy on Earth at 82.8 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Brad, don't move there and bring it down.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do it there, it's likely to throw topography though, their lifestyle and a lot of very good fresh air.
[SPEAKER_00]: They live in a really good spot for good breezes.
[SPEAKER_00]: They also really fun fact are the site of the only ever underwater arrest where there was a poacher.
[SPEAKER_00]: Grabbing underwater shellfish and he was arrested by a scuba diving police officer And I know it didn't happen, but I really wish he was wearing that like policeman hat when you did it It would have been a lot better.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure just a regular scuba diver, but I like the idea of him wearing the big tall Bobby hat
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, but lastly, as always, discord.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a channel that called Ask John and Brad.
[SPEAKER_00]: I always respond.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's Brad.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you wanted to ask us off.
[SPEAKER_00]: Slowly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have the world's bested worst responder, because I will respond.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it'll often be, what is he talking about?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, Brad responded to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you tag Brad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also read back all the time, which is why you get responses to be wailing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it because of your exceptional hearing?
[SPEAKER_01]: Excellent hearing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the guy that goes, hey guys, I'm just going to do movie heat.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The note.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm related to the other day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do explain to someone the movie cobra.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that is shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: The words, the villains are so pointless, by the way, they're just guys, the communist cultists.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but just so pointless, the dude is a hand-back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, actually, side no, I don't know what we're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: This might have to be real quick.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the movie is called Cobra.
[SPEAKER_00]: It comes out in 1986.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a written and stars of Esther Stallone.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when my favorite part about this is he's part of the LAPD zombie squad.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's part of the LAPD that plays by their own rules and does what they need to.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I love that this is 1986.
[SPEAKER_00]: 1987, we get NWA, 1992, we get the Rodney King riots.
[SPEAKER_00]: Turns out that zombie squad thing was really accurate, and was a horrible, horrible thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, onto actual cast, word bears.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ta-da!
[SPEAKER_00]: Today's show was sponsored by the word irony.
[SPEAKER_00]: Irony, when you want to be right, but you find a way to magically very, very wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, the word bears, this is a party.
[SPEAKER_00]: All legions, as we've discovered before, were created with a purpose.
[SPEAKER_00]: The emperor, I guess, was trying to like power Ranger, all of his legions in the end, or for people like Brad and I, Voltron, Voltron, Voltron's way better.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone had a purpose, and they were all going to combine later to solve all of his problems by doing all these individual things.
[SPEAKER_00]: It did not work, and this one more spectacularly than all the rest.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the 13th worked perfectly, but outside of the 13th, every other one of his plans didn't really quite work out as planned.
[SPEAKER_00]: The 17th were made up of recruits from a very specific set, like the precursors to the world leaders, the 17th team not from a region, but from a psychotype.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate Carl Jung, but whatever we can play this out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if I have to take one workout then Myers breaks test at work.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to kill somebody.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in my mid 40s, I'm aware by personality type.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really clear.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need to push them anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, these Myers breaks tests.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: 17th Legion.
[SPEAKER_00]: 17th work are funny, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're taken from the sons of those people that the Emperor defeated.
[SPEAKER_00]: not the ones that's surrendered.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say, don't do it as soon as also they're not tributed.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is people he went, I put the people's elbow on you, strapped him up with somebody asking and I'm taking some people with me.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are the people that the lead you to make it up on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, these are people who are subjugated is I think the better term for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are all people who said, no, I'm not going to abide by your rule and I'm going to fight you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these are people with the thing about this and we didn't cover this very well in the past during the Unification Wars.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you fought the Emperor,
[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't super cool about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: After the fact it was, these people would become, there would be pennants.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would spend generations doing stuff for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: There were some that he was a little bit better about because it came from very wealthy areas.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for the most part, it was generational debt was owed.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's where he pulled them from.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the idea is he wanted recruits who come out of this, who understood, standing against me,
[SPEAKER_00]: is the ultimate crime for lack of a better phrase.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the 17th were going to be his cudgel.
[SPEAKER_00]: So goes, well, most, I don't have touch on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's more the emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: The word bears right away, brought heraldry about this is you, what are you possibly thinking?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you do anything to the emperor, immediately, they were, we're going to pop into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were, they immediately became the heralds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's what's fascinating about them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So everyone else went by a number.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had a 17th except for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: They changed their name over to the Imperial Heller.
[SPEAKER_00]: How will immediately?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're eating or drinking right now, be careful.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want
[SPEAKER_00]: New, the greatest threat to humanity was humanity himself.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the way you might think of like, humanity is going to just fight itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the fact that he knew humanity was susceptible to chaos.
[SPEAKER_01]: Emperor, it numerous enough to make a huge impact on the war itself and change things.
[SPEAKER_01]: we were pieces to be moved by the chaos gods, effectively.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was so much raw material to work with in humanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, and the problem was the Emperor knew about the fall of the Elder.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing to understand about this is that, so for example, the Elder are much more
[SPEAKER_00]: Then humanity is the elder are the beacons within the warp humanity isn't but the elder were not that big the Elba elder occupied maybe eight of the galaxy they had web bodies spread all over the place But the reason the eye of terror is where it is is because that's where the elder civilization was the elder civilization
[SPEAKER_00]: was not as big as you'd think it would be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Humanities, the goal of the Emperor was to conquer the entire Gyro Galaxy and see it with humans every year.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you think about it, as this is going on, we happen during the Dark Age of Technology, more and more cycles are occurring.
[SPEAKER_00]: So just the math game here becomes an issue for the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_00]: He knows there's going to be more cycles, there's going to be more people.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes,
[SPEAKER_00]: We might not be as secondally entuned as the elder, but we do have psychers, which are pretty close, but our numbers are going to be astronomical.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can you talk about the encyclopedia?
[SPEAKER_01]: The warp also.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the belief.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: The bigger problem, effectively.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: True.
[SPEAKER_00]: The bigger problem is humanity itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: The elder are basically immortal.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, they did go down a dark path and birth a dark god, but took them.
[SPEAKER_00]: 65 million.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to get there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Humanity live short, very painful and violent lives.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just what humanity is.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just yeah, people make deals on the worst stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for the in the old devil plot, the access stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so they're perfect for this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the emperor knew he had to do something about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So what does he do about great idea?
[SPEAKER_00]: He just starts yelling, hey, there are no gods very loudly, and the people didn't listen to that because they were like, yeah, okay, but like seriously, I'm going to keep doing this anyway.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he had a new plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to enforce there are no gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: And who does he get to do this?
[SPEAKER_00]: The precursors of the word bears the 17th Legion.
[SPEAKER_00]: The 17th Legion were given the title Imperial Heralds because they were going to spread the word of the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the word of the Emperor was that science is everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are no gods, there is no supernatural, and to say otherwise is heresy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, and they were very fervent about that, almost like they worshiped the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Immediately, that's God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and this was, by the way, these are the good old days of this we think about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, like to think about it, it's like, these are the good old days of heresy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where heresy was just simply saying, hey, I wonder if there's a God?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, no, that's heresy, not the new ones where it's like there's actually demons.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm actually, and I'm worshiping one.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're, all right, so in many ways, the 17th Legion War Legion of Chaplains, which is ironic because they actually could become that later.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so what do you mean the kind of where they were black arbor skulls, they're, they're, they're carrying cozies, they're just chaplains.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a bunch of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the way I said this, we're going to get more to that at the end of this cast, they were the equipment of a chaplain later they become chaplain.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the difference here.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to get there later.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for now, yeah, the imperial hell, their helmet was a skull helmet, and they were all black armor and they carried a giant mace.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's back up just to smidge on this because of the fact, let's talk about 40 ks and whole real quick and how this goes into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So 40 k is supposed to be in Incosition age, you know, where we're smashed down here.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, we've lost knowledge and the word bears.
[SPEAKER_01]: were the people that really pushed this.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are the people that caused the horse heresy.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They started out as the inquisition.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going around burning heretical knowledge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anything that was considered not the imperial truth.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how they started.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is before Lord Garn gets there.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were going door to door, bird in the books, killing people for their beliefs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were.
[SPEAKER_00]: going to libraries and checking every book.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were taking out buildings if you had like, you know, the wrong year all on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: An entire council, whatever it was, they started on Terra.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as the crusade began, they began doing this kind of everywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of like the story of how they went hand on the crusade because we said the beginning of the crusade, the rogue creators all went out first and they marked all the planets.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they knew where to go.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first legion was like, hey, bad Zino thing, go there.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, 13th legion.
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys are kind of agreeable.
[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe don't just blow their planet up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Throw it out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the 17th were the tricky ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: The 17th were the ones who were
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a, they'd be good for the 13th, but there's a lot of worship there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they would send the 17th and the first thing that would happen is a single chaplain would go down and would meet with the leader and they would sit there and they would basically give the lecture on the emperor and how they're, they're wrong about all this worship.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, let the positive this because this would go better if they didn't start most of their negotiations with.
[SPEAKER_01]: you're stupid, everything you know is stupid, and here's what you should do about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how they started.
[SPEAKER_01]: They talk about the writing's quite a bit there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, but believeably super-insult, they're like, yeah, we're not trying to, they're not trying to convince you that this is better.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just telling you how dumb and wrong you are.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, well, even if you don't agree with me, we'll just kill you if you don't agree with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they also did have a hundred thousand space marries
[SPEAKER_01]: I need that might makes right come on now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might already be this very, very good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did like this because they would sit there and they would just say to them, this is to deal agree with us.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Emperor is there or else.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what would happen a lot of times is they would just attack the hell who is sitting there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the hell would just kill a bunch of people, die in the process.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next thing that happened was a full of starty's invasion.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they would invade basically treating them like heretics to Brad's point earlier, the way that the inquisition would invade in modern 40K.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just going, you people aren't worth it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to exterminate everyone here.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're coming through looking for any evidence of worship to destroy that true brutality, absolute forcing them to bend the knee and devastated it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They did all, it's so funny because instead of the first legion, the Dark Angels, who would exterminate people and get rid of the all traces of them, the wordbearers were doing this with the imperial heralds of the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing this, but they were making it so they were exterminating any signs and history of idols, relics, everything they had from before, they would get rid of all of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were crazy about it too.
[SPEAKER_00]: They would hunt it down.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's what they would exterminate us, plan it after, plan it this way.
[SPEAKER_00]: But to Brad's point, he was like, it wasn't a full, it wasn't a full exterminating virus bomb exterminate us.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just going through and getting, I take that building down, burn that library, then bring in the settlers, type set up.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this continues for about 60 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar is one of the later discoveries.
[SPEAKER_00]: Until they get a primar, and they're going to take a left turn after the discovery of the primar.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we have to now go over to, I'm going to pronounce this colchese.
[SPEAKER_00]: It could be colchese, I'm going colchese.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say colchese, but continue with one of my favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's that colchese, isn't it?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not Italian.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: One of my favorite things, colchese.
[SPEAKER_01]: one of my favorite things about this episode is I knew when I would get the notes that you were going to spend an overt amount of time on the orbit of the planet because it's in a long
[SPEAKER_01]: can solve the how they define the week and everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is something that should have been one sentence.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I knew for sure it was going to be and you did not disappoint.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was so happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's party.
[SPEAKER_00]: So sitting on the upper, sinister side of the galaxy, from Seoul is, I'm going to call cheese to screw everybody, call cheese is a massive world.
[SPEAKER_00]: Three times a size of terror in a spin a slow orbit.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a little bit smaller than Uranus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I look that up this morning.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's important.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is important.
[SPEAKER_00]: We should just, I thought it, so that's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to use North East Southwest and every planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to use the scale of Uranus.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is the new thing going forward, deal with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It also has a really slow rotation.
[SPEAKER_00]: a single day takes 170.4 hours.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which means the planet would be in a free-stall pattern, because if solstice is split, that means you'd have 85 hours of pure darkness, which would cause a massive cooling point killing off all life.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't believe me, 536 AD fog, just google that, you'll know what I'm talking about and that was a volcano, did that, and that was just a fog.
[SPEAKER_00]: So 36 degree Fahrenheit drop, fog, but anyway, your people that hold you, how do they break up for their days, though?
[SPEAKER_00]: To the people of cold cheese, this was not a death sentence, but just an annoyance.
[SPEAKER_00]: And apparently, because their watches didn't work well, so they had to figure out what to do about a day that was too long.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they decided to do the Hobbit thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And not joking, this is what they did, because 170-hour day is broken into seven parts, because that's 170 divided by seven, it's 24.3.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we get dawn a day, more and day, long noon, post-noon, dusk-eave, cold fall, and high night.
[SPEAKER_00]: When?
[SPEAKER_00]: In other words, they had seven days of the week inside of a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: This gives you crap.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why write this?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is the also here's the best part of all they wrote this whole thing like yeah They had to adjust for having a weird timetable because the sun's moving around and that their day is really long And I remember leaving this going like okay, well, whatever, and then you remember space travels a thing No, they don't have in space travel
[SPEAKER_00]: Day, night, orbit, anything, but you know what they do, figure it out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't have dawn a day, more than day in the middle of a spaceship.
[SPEAKER_00]: They just go with six a, six a.m. in Seoul, that's what time it is now, move on with your day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Every planet in the entire Imperium would have this problem, unless
[SPEAKER_00]: somehow, all of them have the exact same rotation of speed as Earth.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is so poorly written.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would actually get it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would end this ramp if I wasn't going to go into my own ramp about the covenant in about five minutes.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: But skipping past that massive collection of incorrect, Colchis is best described as a ruined planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: The world was arid and it had the settlement spread around it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And additionally, in orbit around it, it's a bunch of derelict spacecraft, just kind of floating there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the thing is, around Colchis, there's enough derelict spacecraft to make it a point.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like there's three ships up there.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's something went down, oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know in the history of this and there's significant enough where they bring it up quite a bit to me honest with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's a lot of crap up.
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't go well and it's what we've learned to kind of learn more as time goes up with more novels.
[SPEAKER_00]: The truth on you can call Colcus.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll call Colcus and one of us will be right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Colcus was a highly successful prosperous world during the Golden Age of Technology and during the Dark Age of Technology it didn't do great.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that could have pretty bad way.
[SPEAKER_01]: We get to talk about fetal societies, which is one of your favorites.
[SPEAKER_01]: This one actually did correctly though.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the thing, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to even credit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Usually when GW refers to a world being a feudal world, they just are not even up.
[SPEAKER_00]: ballpark this one they nailed because it's you know it's spread across you have a it's all broken up into what are basically city states that are have their own regions that they rule in their hot each of them has a high powered ruler who control their areas but and below them the citizenry it sucks being them and they have slaves indentured servants check check check well that's futile hold on to yes you're selling a short on this the majority of the
[SPEAKER_00]: there's a check check check that's feudalism and then there's a hidden secret super class called a covenant in this situation who ruled over.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a monarchy before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we have, well, actually 1100 were kind of pushing this one to or actually more once.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, this is a, this is a being a city state, but ruled by a theocracy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, which is a tactically the church of England, but that's a side note for a different day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, but.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we get into the covenant.
[SPEAKER_00]: The covenant was a religion on colchese that rose up as the dark-each of technology, kind of befell the galaxy, nothing's known exactly about what happened in colchese at that time, but we can infer a lot and by a lot, I mean a lot, a lot, a lot a lot a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: the covenant talks about a divine leader who would come to lead them one day and the divine leader would bring with them great power and knowledge and would upload it by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the best prophecy ever because it totally comes to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there is a variation as so there's this is it gets a little bit tricky because there's levels to this because the covenant also was
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar is gonna shift this to be much more aggressive on an individual.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them were more polytheistic.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, like we talked about this great leader coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: But through this, this is where brands are gonna rant on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The polytheistic specifically to the number four.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it wasn't a but that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is like this is where it does move around.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a number four in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: The challenge is like their religion is both monolatrolism, but it's also probably is it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is caffeine of theism is the other one where you do have your either have it's all.
[SPEAKER_00]: either is the religion one where there's one supreme, and you've got multiples underneath it, or is it one where depending on what region you are, that one's more important, like hell Roman, it's, I don't know which one is, if it's got to know where the monolatulism is going to fall into one of those categories, but it doesn't really matter, because here's where the fun part is, because we're going to have the pilgrimage a little bit later, watching it from the pilgrimage now.
[SPEAKER_00]: The pilgrimage is the part that Brad wants to get to, which is wild, and this is where
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, is that a cool story, but the pilgrimage is a story which makes a lot of sense later, sorry guys, but it'll make birth and later.
[SPEAKER_00]: In it, for profits,
[SPEAKER_00]: took a long journey to seek the knowledge of the gods and they brought it back to Colchese.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this knowledge became the basis for the covenant and this helped deliver Colchese from the darkness.
[SPEAKER_00]: The names of those prophets are a bit of a key.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we've got...
[SPEAKER_00]: Cain, K-H-A-A-N-E, T-Z-N, T-E-Z-E-N, Slonat, S-L-A-N-A-T, and Narog, and A-R-A-G. Coren Zeech, Slonat, should dergle.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this because they literally with Haybad,
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see your homework just make it look a little bit different and then you just scratched out the name and row your day, but the top that is what's going on here They don't even try to hide this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it would they have the four profits.
[SPEAKER_00]: They went to the four chaos gods
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it is they were and we're gonna cover this makes a lot more sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't want to dive into a weird thing It'll make more sense later, but our next cast, Lordguard kind of goes on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it doesn't go, it goes on this pilgrimage And it's gonna make a ton of sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's this These novels, by the way, if you want to get a good understanding of what happened with the emperor and the primar project and a ton of stuff
[SPEAKER_00]: the Lorgar novels, the best ones for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They really did it really in depth of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: They clear a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, those books are really good in for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it will name them as we go through them.
[SPEAKER_00]: But another key element of the covenant is that it is in constant internal conflict with itself.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it's four chaos gods.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yes, and no, this is why the state's kind of tricky.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a forecast guys, but I think of it less as like the God's fighting with each other I think a more like Catholic church 11th the 13th century or maybe like 16th 17th So I think it takes what's good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe more 11th 13th.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was saying but the thing is is that the answer is yes But I think that's because there's internal fighting because again the God themselves fight consistent They constantly
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, see, I view it less as I don't think the people really were actually that religious.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I actually think of it more as 16th, 17th.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do it more.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing is people were trying to get out of the mud, so you're trying to get power and not be at an entrance servant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the thing is the covenant word is unofficial ruling class and the planet.
[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of people aspired for the key roles in the covenant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because this is not a democracy, this is a meritocracy.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you show leadership and power, people follow you.
[SPEAKER_00]: The more people that follow you, the more leadership, the more power you get.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it also means as you try to make that rise, more criticism, more threats.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so now we're going to talk about warfare.
[SPEAKER_00]: warfare, all right.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back after a quick break.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a lot of people in Colchese, warfare and was an orphan.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a common theme here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, raise an orphanage.
[SPEAKER_00]: He joins the covenant as a priest.
[SPEAKER_00]: warfare and did not read this stuff and think, all right, I'm going to go preach and get rich.
[SPEAKER_00]: He believed.
[SPEAKER_00]: He saw the chaos gods are real.
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't do those there were chaos, but the gods are real.
[SPEAKER_00]: And one thing that began to annoy him was that the people of Coltchis were religious, but not that religious.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the terms of the videos on this because they were like the priests were out converting people and asking them to be worshipers of the gods.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Carfera goes, I don't really understand why you're doing your ass gig, and yes, I'm doing air quotes and no one can see me, because that's what I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we were, he was like, why are we giving them a choice?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, this is,
[SPEAKER_01]: treason to the way of our way of life, we should be put in the beat down on anybody there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it?
[SPEAKER_00]: His viewpoint was that apostasy was tantamount to Tracy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's his viewpoint.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now the covenant decided that he's weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's because this is a threat to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: They are trying to make money off of
[SPEAKER_00]: the populace.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to be mean to the populace.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he wants to mean the populace.
[SPEAKER_00]: What they do is they kick him out in the desert to live with all the other weirdos.
[SPEAKER_00]: problem with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're like, you should stop exiling and start killing because, well, he gets on the exhaust the other.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: You put a bunch of weirdos out in the desert.
[SPEAKER_00]: All the weirdos get together and it wasn't too long before core fairer and was leading all of the weirdos.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's quite white like Lee Zinge did this by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's also could be, I mean, he's,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's super powered with his laboratory skills.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has sorcerer ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's either doing z-incher, he's doing like the X-incher with the X-incher.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had enough torn actually, has power over the sway of people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I should write, rallying them for war, but he wasn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was rallying them for the revolution.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this was my assumption.
[SPEAKER_00]: But all the gods were working together here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they knew it was coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lord God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like every Primark, Lordgar was sent across the galaxy by Chaos Gods, or was it them?
[SPEAKER_00]: Then we're going to cover that next cast.
[SPEAKER_00]: It may not have actually been the Chaos Gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: Different story different day.
[SPEAKER_00]: A robbing on coal cheeses and infant, Lordgar was discovered by nomadic people called the Decline.
[SPEAKER_00]: Great no effects song.
[SPEAKER_00]: Last song they ever played, and I was actually there when it played it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, their leader of the Decline is a guy named Fan Morgal, and Morgal sees this
[SPEAKER_00]: infant, lorgar, and knew it was special.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he, he's what named him lorgar, which is called rain-collar, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: And after about two weeks, lorgar is a size of a small child, which again, at births up before, where is this food coming from?
[SPEAKER_00]: I love these people who are like, nomadic, and they seem to have one thing, Wendy, us, we're nomadic, we're barely scraping by, but we've found this being that's crippling in size by the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they don't want his fellow.
[SPEAKER_00]: 8,000 calories a day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know baby elephant eats and these are growing faster than that blue whales what what where is this coming from but anyway
[SPEAKER_00]: The nomadic decline run into core fair on his people and core fair on C's Lord Garth and look basically recognized as the power immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: And core fair is a talk for you to Lord Garth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, this is where you get the core fair has kind of a dick because he had lovely goes, yeah, like a super mega.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that he goes,
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, you know what, I see in this guy a way that I can get power and get my way and because do I tell these people that I want to take the kid, convince him, because he does convince him to rock and then he's like, yeah,
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want anybody to know about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to murder all of them immediately for kind of no reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have no clear reason why he does this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he has his fault.
[SPEAKER_00]: Corferon has his followers murder the entire decline and bury them in the desert and him and Lord God leave.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is a key thing, Brad, just to hint at it there, but I want to drive this home.
[SPEAKER_00]: Almost every other primarque who was found, the person who found them saw greatness in the primarque, and wanted to aid the primarque in their ascension, so that the primarque could then uplift the entire society, saying, when he is corrects, full and guillotine obviously, magnets.
[SPEAKER_00]: They all saw something in this tent that where they were going to use this person to help all society.
[SPEAKER_00]: Corferent closer than the new serians who were like, all right, we're just going to use this thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: In Lordgar, there was a tool.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he begins to abuse Lordgar really badly.
[SPEAKER_00]: They do call out he doesn't physically physically, but I really used to accept that for like of a first month and then you win.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, if you touch me again, I'll bathe you.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he does, but that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: They call it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he abuses Lordgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: That just doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar is still a prime market.
[SPEAKER_00]: We make fun of him a lot as far as PrimeArch's go, but I can tell you the prime, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Correferent could punch Lorgar in the face and Lorgar might not notice.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's very hard to abuse a prime market.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he is definitely mentally abusing and he's both very much so.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good God.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this whole time is abusing him, Lord Car is reading and reading and reading and my opinion is that I think Lord Car puts up with all the abuse because Lord Car actually realizes that Corferon was right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Corferon is correct about all of these teachings.
[SPEAKER_00]: The gods are real.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is something there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's a polytheism, but there is a single entity that binds them all together.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I guess it was Hino-Themianism, but that's not important.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, spoiler alert, by the way, he's kind of right because the writings that he's reading are old.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, when these pilgrims had come to coldgees, this is during the dark age.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, this is after the emperor had visited the chaos gods and left for timing this out about right.
[SPEAKER_00]: The chaos gods believed at that time that the emperor was going to be the fifth and most powerful chaos god.
[SPEAKER_00]: This isn't malice, we'll do malice that different time.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the emperor betrayed them between those two periods of time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the writing's
[SPEAKER_00]: fifth chaos god is going to come and unite all of them and basically destroy the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the guy in that sigma that predates sigma or the destroy the galaxy?
[SPEAKER_00]: Arcane?
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what that was the idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the emperor was supposed to be Arcane.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Lord Gar is, it's the first person to ever read these texts and fully
[SPEAKER_00]: Corferon though, because he's kind of a whiny little bitch, didn't agree with the kind of, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he starts with, but the proud for Carifference, he starts with losing the argument of the Lordgar, because he's nowhere near his intelligence, Lordgar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he gets Lordgar's a pry bark.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the issue, though, is that he's losing the art.
[SPEAKER_01]: Back it up, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not only is he losing the arguments, because one of us is a primar genius.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, he looks like a primar.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he just, it really looks like a god.
[SPEAKER_00]: We make kind of Lord Gara a lot, because of the primarx, he's low, but of a person.
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, going back to my hatred of Luther, I'm still picking Lord Gara in that fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I just wanted those things for you like having an argument like I'm going to go with the God, you know, you're having an argument versus Ted and Hercules, I'm going to go with the demo I got over here.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he looks he looks right out on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he's also seems a bit more eloquent than you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: So over time though, the other followers are core fair and they're hearing these arguments and they're all going, yeah, Lord, they're actually seems to be making much better points.
[SPEAKER_00]: And also, you know, Brad's point, one of them looks like a god.
[SPEAKER_00]: One day, there's a big disagreement between the two of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: A core fairon just gets mad and tells us followers to go cheat, Lord Gar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the followers go, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they attack core fairon.
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't get full mute near the bounty.
[SPEAKER_00]: but while they go to overthrow and Lord God just kills him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was gonna go wrong, rumble.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just heard drop into elbows on everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, to be fair, warfare was a lot cooler to a mastery saved his life and but not super cool, just moved into being
[SPEAKER_01]: shitty psychological manipulation on him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, time passes and lorgar, the legend of lorgar grows his little Mary band of preachers starts to reach more and more influence.
[SPEAKER_00]: And eventually some of the main cities start to find out about him and he begins to people like start leaving the cities to go to people are doing pilgrimages to find him specifically.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he takes up that's mantle of
[SPEAKER_00]: He does this cool thing, because Lord Garbrod was better than Conrad.
[SPEAKER_00]: He starts freeing people.
[SPEAKER_00]: He begins attacking settlements and freeing the slaves there, not just pulling people skin off.
[SPEAKER_00]: promote a parent reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he does this cool stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: He becomes a liberator of the masses until eventually the cause of the breaker of the chains.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it worked, didn't it?
[SPEAKER_00]: So eventually the covenant takes notice.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then being of pretty high intelligence realized that it's either we admit Lord God into the fold or we're going to, you know, we all get killed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's be
[SPEAKER_00]: and Corfer on this whole time has moved himself into the title of Arch Deacon of L'Orgar, aka Breithand Guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Warguard joins the covenant and eventually becomes the leader.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not an official thing because they don't have a formal leadership, which is a popularity contest.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in instantaneously, he gets a little guys that are like, who the hell's this guy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is he have power?
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, these guys aren't true believers in what's going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is sort of using their sharpness.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, how do bulls have these are charlatans over and over and over and over again in the car?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're kind of watching because it's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: As Lord Gargain's power, like I said, it's not a official political thing, so as more and more people worship Lord Gargain, that means more and more the money goes to Lord Garg, more and more the influence goes to Lord Garg.
[SPEAKER_00]: So these other leaders who were just there to get rich are now seeing their revenue drop and they're getting mad and they're looking for an opportunity.
[SPEAKER_00]: and the opportunity.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're going to say it presents itself doesn't end well, but it's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Lord Gar, like a lot of the other primarks, was having visions, and his vision is a god, clad in bronze armor, coming to cold cheese, and next to him is a giant cyclops,
[SPEAKER_00]: which also, I side note, why is Madness a Cyclops not a pirate?
[SPEAKER_00]: It wouldn't be so much better, I'd be Madness the Red.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeew world is here for the Imperium surrender.
[SPEAKER_00]: You walk the plank.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would have been so much better.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know I'm right too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, you love yourself some free Buddhist.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I do, it would have been.
[SPEAKER_00]: If Madness the Thousand Sun is that it would have, or the Recycur pirates.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a much better army.
[SPEAKER_00]: There.
[UNKNOWN]: Ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_00]: Send it for the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lorgar begins preaching, though, because of this, the coming of the great God to cold cheese.
[SPEAKER_00]: But not coming one day, like he's coming next week, guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so all the prophecies are about to come true, which is a real negative on tithing.
[SPEAKER_00]: all of a sudden, money just had dry up even more.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the members of the covenant declare Lord Gara Heretic, saying he's not preaching the correct teacher of the covenant and they say someone should arrest him and they go to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: doesn't end great, but also bad decision.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they just effectively start all holy war because they say that he's a tarotic and this is ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Lordgard proceeds to just go on a world tour of ass kicking city to city.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the thing, what I would say about this is the holy war, it's called the Skizmoor.
[SPEAKER_00]: In my issue with a lot of this is we talk about Lord Garth through this as being the site preacher.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lord Garth is still hyper violent.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not this like, yes, core fair on was being mean to him, yes, core fair on what was beating him up, but through all this, Lorgar still is a war primar.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Lorgar leads his forces on a city by city tour of just conquering.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he does this one, the system though, a special way.
[SPEAKER_00]: He walks up teach, steady, and he stands outside and gives a speech.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming say anything style.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we doing this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely not.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lord, it's Lord.
[SPEAKER_01]: You mungus from the road, Lord.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who is this microphone?
[SPEAKER_01]: Not as long.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yes, it's alive.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm doing this as say anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a piece of advice with a boom box.
[SPEAKER_00]: It works very Diane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it worked on Diane.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's working on the people, but it actually does.
[SPEAKER_00]: He starts off on very long sheet of Gabriel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I do like the first one he doesn't do is funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: He goes to Veridesh and he gives his whole speech.
[SPEAKER_00]: Veridesh is the capital and all of a sudden the gates open.
[SPEAKER_00]: The people carry out all the dead corpses of the leaders of the covenant there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes, all right, that one worked.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so for the next six years, this war continues until they get to the last one, which is, ooh, Garavarala.
[SPEAKER_00]: And again, we're going to have a fun little John comic the second year, but Garov Aralot is not just, it's not a capital, but it's a really powerful feudal state.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a powerful feudal state.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it has some dark age of technology.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, what's it got?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it's got a really special weapon.
[SPEAKER_00]: What could that weapon be?
[SPEAKER_00]: It makes storms.
[SPEAKER_00]: It means it means rain.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a storm generator.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to attack A.R.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have to go through a storm in the 30th millennia.
[SPEAKER_00]: A thing we can get through in the 2nd millennia.
[SPEAKER_00]: But luckily, Lorgar was there and he parted the storm.
[SPEAKER_00]: So no one got wet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, we first of all, like, it's a storm generator and I was thinking, like, yeah, like our military can drive through a storm today.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, how bad is this wind supposed to be?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really gusty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what an M1 A1 Abrams weighs?
[SPEAKER_00]: It can handle gusty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, there's also lightning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also can handle that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, skis and more ends, but the death toll is just beginning, like any protracted war.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go with, I was going to call it one thing, but I have to call it a different thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yed's show of inshina is what I'm going to go with.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yed's show of inshina.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to rock out with Stalin.
[SPEAKER_01]: You go with Mao.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently, they had to get rid of some people that weren't true believers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when I say some people, I mean, one third of the population.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's why it's, yes, shoved in, yes, shoved in China.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, I think, how you pronounce this effectively, it's claimed that after the war, one third of the population decided to turn against Lorgar, just like Trotsky and Common Yev, and then Yavyev did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Within it, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No comment, just they just happened to do it at that moment and all of Lorgas followers went city to city on a murder spree.
[SPEAKER_00]: So pretty big murder spree.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: But within a year this happening, a ship arrives and out walks the emperor and magnets.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd be here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry, that's my new thing with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Immediately, Lord Garnos, his vision has come true, as to all the people, the God has come to liberate them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they start to have this giant feast, multi month long.
[SPEAKER_00]: The emperor, begin saying, I'm not the Messiah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the people of Golchese, immediately say, well, we say you are, and we should know because we followed a few.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we've been watching Life of Brian for a while, he said.
[SPEAKER_00]: He knows this is off the Holy Guard.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, follow the sandal.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sandal of truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I can quote this movie a lot.
[SPEAKER_00]: His only he who was at that without.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, but the Emperor had brought with him the Imperial Hellrobes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he just basically gizzled the Lord Garza's eye.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go crusade.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is usually the part in the cast, or we start talking about Lorghara, the great crusade, but we can't, because we have another character to get to.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time, time
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't stress enough how much the ignore of that and go excellent.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is definitely what the God is.
[SPEAKER_01]: This true God was a pride.
[SPEAKER_00]: This lore was written well after the life of Brian came out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Watch that scene, read this lore and you realize they took that scene and made it serious.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's all 100%.
[SPEAKER_00]: The emperor is routinely saying, stop worshiping me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm over this now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Can we please get on with it?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they are, I am affected by a bald patch.
[SPEAKER_00]: It does not stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is all, it magical.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.
[SPEAKER_00]: On cold she stores this young boy in a nothing city and he just wants nothing really for himself but the kind of just be a dick.
[SPEAKER_00]: But so this young boy just all he wants to do is kind of be mean.
[SPEAKER_00]: So one of his favorite pastimes is to catch desert scorpions and pull their legs off them while they're alive.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he likes does this because it's a thrill.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if the tail stings him, he'll die.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he has to do this without getting stung.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has no aspirations, no achievements, and he's destined for nothing, and his parents know it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They basically yell at him every day about being a failure, and they tell him why he should be like something, and they tell him he should be like the village hero, which is all a small child named Eribus.
[SPEAKER_00]: Eribus is basically perfect in every way.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's
[SPEAKER_00]: He'd been accepted into the cloister to go be a priest for the covenant of Colchis.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, he even been invited to go to the city of Varidesh.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he was so committed to the cause that young Arabes, even started tattooing a lot of the covenant all over his face.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so this young boy, seen the way everyone looked at Arabes, you know, new
[SPEAKER_00]: what to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so what he does is, he murdered Sarah.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's what to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And with, hey, man, you know, what's easy to cut, did not see your facial features, if you have your face tattooed with scripture.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes the murder's arabic in an alley, borrow the body, and then he uses, I mean, I thought of Marker that copies of tattoos all over his face and steals a clothes and then leaves the city and becomes arabic.
[SPEAKER_00]: So,
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we have Arabis 2.0, Arabis 2.0 eventually takes a little bit of detour but arrives in the main city.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just there to do be a Charlotton.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's excited.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go get rich.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get the wealth and the power.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is going to rock.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he kind of settles into this life of a Charlotton.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's his whole plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: But
[SPEAKER_00]: In order to do that, he has to go to the church and read what happens is while he's doing this, he's not reading the text and it doesn't take long before Arabic starts to actually see leave some truth.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's there.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the truth of the word.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: He begins to kind of see not just a place for himself within Colchese, but a place for himself within the galaxy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he everything's more about the four ruinous powers.
[SPEAKER_00]: And to my knowledge, I think he's the first person to actually understand that there are four ruinous powers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was Corfaron understood there was a higher power?
[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think he grasped the four.
[SPEAKER_00]: Aribus starts even conversing with them to a point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was saying he had knowledge right away, which is again, Siege typed long-term planning of,
[SPEAKER_01]: what is our grand plan to do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: They started here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they started with the emperor, the emperor gave the finger and said, yeah, get to get to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: They tried a few spots, but arabas was the first one that seems to really stick.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what they get with him, one of the more famous scenes for him is he's, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: Getting more and more comfortable for like a better phrase with the chaos gods, and a mirror is broken.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's broken into four quadrants.
[SPEAKER_00]: He looks in the mirror.
[SPEAKER_00]: He sees himself in the four quadrants broken up, and he realizes that the four gods have been there the whole time for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: They've been the ones guiding him, laying this path out for him.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is to be their champion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Aribus also during this time comes to learn all the truths of the galaxy, because he is sworn in allegiance to the chaos gods.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is going to serve them, he is going to be their champion in the mortal realms.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he knows about the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so for also, we're going to get to that, the Lurgar and as much as I dislike Lurgar, and I hate arabas for causing things, but I hate arabas in a good way.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you hate a good villain, his arabas is wild, evil, and manipulating, and effective from the beginning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very much so.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so arabas, you know,
[SPEAKER_00]: sees this, and then around the same time, Lorgar comes into the picture, an Arab sees this and goes yep, and he works himself into Lorgar's good graces and he becomes one of Arabists, like he becomes one of Lorgars, like key confidence.
[SPEAKER_00]: When the Emperor arrives, Arabist looks at the Emperor, and he knows this is my enemy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he knows his entire purpose is going to be to kill this man and overthrow him, so the chaos can reign supreme.
[SPEAKER_00]: So.
[SPEAKER_00]: From there, we're going to move ahead a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: The great crusade goes to begin.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as the word bear is made great, the leaf colchies, they do whatever one does.
[SPEAKER_00]: They convert the locals to space marines on the several.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, I've got the breaks, Johnny Boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you act like they were putting out some pamphlets in the mail grab and show up to my rally with a Played some acoustic guitar
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what they did was they grabbed a absolute mass of the people, which means the leaders are shifting pretty quickly to being a little bit believers in God.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just a tad.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when my favorite is core fair on is one of the, like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, you're grossly told be a space Marine, but we've got a ton of Deca trend in peptides.
[SPEAKER_00]: So here you go, I boop, juice you up, arabic so does get the organs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Arabist is an actual space Marine.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what I like though is the emperor does.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just drops the space Marines off with Laura and says, hey, have that go stamp out heresy, seriously short pamphlet on my belief struck, which Laura does not read.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also,
[SPEAKER_01]: Biggie, it is epic wisdom.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, one of the most powerful, the most intelligent, Biggie shows up on this planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: They wildly worship him as a God.
[SPEAKER_01]: To his face.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he is the one true God.
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, ah.
[SPEAKER_01]: don't do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that's not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And immediately leaves.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is like, hey, you guys don't do it right?
[SPEAKER_00]: So the word bear is begin this crusade of converting worlds to the worship of the emperor, just immediately.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they find, but it's weird how they do it because what's funny is they actually are finding worlds that are worshiping the chaos gods and destroying all of the chaos gods that are making them put stuff up about the emperor.
[SPEAKER_00]: And while this is happening, Lorgar's doing this other, so this is why this legion's really important, because the legacy of this legion's incredible.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here are there two big legacies.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first one's cool for us who model the second one's much bigger.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first one is he makes a new class of warrior.
[SPEAKER_00]: His viewpoint is, if I'm going to put a city to the torch, that is a ceremonial thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not something that's a sacred thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly, we do it right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the person who should be in charge of that is not a regular soldier, it's someone who has utmost standing in purpose.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we talked about earlier, you know, the guys who looked like chaplains, they become actual chaplains.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Black Armour School of Prociences.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's every plate that they're taking with doing all this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to put two things together here, which he's making gigantic.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's putting up St. Peter's Basilica everywhere they go, that they're making giant monuments.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Emperor, they're also doing it super slow.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to come back to haunt them, maybe haunt the Imperium, because the plan comes in a play.
[SPEAKER_01]: But,
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes about making these effectively shrine worlds before the shrine worlds to the Emperor everywhere they go, and also, Lord, I love this part because they still use it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But just real quick, on the chaplains, the thing of the chaplain, this is really important.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he creates these chaplains who are like the kind of ultimate believers in the emperor, and the lead chaplain is arabas.
[SPEAKER_00]: The reason this matters is that chaplain, this thing gets spread to the other legions because the chaplains being these ultimate kind of believers in the emperor, the other legions adhere to this.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of the ways he will spread later into other
[SPEAKER_00]: But the same time, Lord Garb begins to work on his masterpiece.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lord Garb Opus, yeah, believes in the Emperor's a God.
[SPEAKER_00]: He saw the Emperor as actually more than a God.
[SPEAKER_00]: He saw as a God who was going to deliver the universe from darkness.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he wanted everyone to understand that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he does this weird thing where he grabs a quill and he wrote this thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the year 30,000.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this apple might have a monopoly anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was an iPad.
[SPEAKER_00]: I assume they still did.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, he pensed the electric deal, the deal, the divinatus, divinatus.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this is his proof the emperor is a divine being and deserves the worship of all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Fun story on this book.
[SPEAKER_00]: still exists.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the basis for the Ecclesiarchy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is there.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is the Bible of the occurred.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the only reason why I believe it may if I could have been written with anchor's because then you could white out the author.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it is also known as, it is unknown, they don't even put an author on it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All the time, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is just a divine writing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Lorgar penned all of the beliefs of the current ecclesiarchy, of the the worship of the Emperor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was 100% him.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Emperor should have snuffed out three primarks not to just say it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, none of this comes back to haunted.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, but that's that's we're going to break today because of the next cast things get real spicy with the lower guard Arabes and core fair on because each touch of follow their own path, but they begin to utilize each other and eventually they kind of all align suddenly it's really I.
[SPEAKER_00]: The word bear lore is really fascinating.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's messed up, but it is really fascinating because of the convolution within it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I also like because it's actually fairly linear.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like some of the other ones we've covered, like how helpful.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you to talk about the magis.
[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that I had to follow.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do love the fact that Arabes' plans might not have worked except for the emperor really solidified it, but it will get that next time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and the emperor is a huge buddy here.
[SPEAKER_00]: But,
[SPEAKER_00]: that also Magnus screws up to, by the way, Magnus has a, Magnus has multiple easy opportunities to just stop all this and happen, and just goes, nah, nah, nah, nah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But until next week, John Barzati Bradchester, this guy, see you guys then.
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.