[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome everybody, another episode of Hollywood Godfather podcast, and again, it's the
[SPEAKER_00]: Pat Pichorelli my everybody writing partner and author and many other things and A millennia millennia millennia about my man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But a cousin that's researching our family tree and I find out my name is not pitcher early.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's what is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's putcher early.
[SPEAKER_02]: Putcher earlier.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's funny thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how I have my father when he was born.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's only one generation removed.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a putcher early.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how to hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got to be a pitcher early.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, poochorelli's, I knew Frank Poochorelli was major guy on Staten Island.
[SPEAKER_00]: He owned one of the biggest bankwood halls and only hotel on Staten Island.
[SPEAKER_00]: You should look it up.
[SPEAKER_00]: The boulevard hotel on Highland Boulevard was owned by Frank Poochorelli.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna check out the relatives I didn't know existed.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hello.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, what we, someone asked us a while ago and the male bank was, I think it was,
[SPEAKER_00]: about the Pilates, and I know them all my life, and our audience knows them of Tommy coming of fame when he became the underboss of the Gambino family, under the transfer of power from Cologambino to Paul Castellano, his cousin, and that's created the whole
[SPEAKER_00]: because they, he felt they just respected O'Neill who was the Undaborse to Gambino all his life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think how he booked the lottery became most famous for getting murdered.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's why I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: His fame, well, he was the Undaborse at that time.
[SPEAKER_00]: His great fame was laying on front of Spockstick as unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew the Baladi family, all the brothers, his older brother, Maddie, was like maybe 20 years older than him, but they were all treacherous guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: By mid street guys, tough guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, really tough.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, Joey Baladi was a professional fighter as older brother above Tommy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was Jimmy, they used to come the snake,
[SPEAKER_00]: and not to be confused by the other guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Jimmy Belotti was a very skinny little guy and hung around Sanatro and seized his palace in Vegas for years and a degenerate gamble.
[SPEAKER_00]: Most of them were in the family.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I had to as a favorite Tommy send his brother home in a body bag because he died and nobody was claiming the body
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew about it, and I called Tommy, and I said, that's a lot to take care of for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wasn't anybody, how come his brothers didn't claim his body?
[SPEAKER_00]: His brothers didn't know he died.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew because I was in Vegas and I heard the headline.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're all in New York.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that happens to try to.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but he had, they owned a lot of bars.
[SPEAKER_00]: They used to own
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Jimmy owned the surf club, down there with a couple of people, then he opened another club, and Tommy owned a famous log cabin on Staten Island, which was a strip place.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then when he married a crescendo, they owned crescidos, which was a nightclub in South Beach, during when South Beach was a place of destination during the summer.
[SPEAKER_02]: But one of the crititos was a cop, Chocochito, who I worked with here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was one of members of some distant relatives.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I also introduced to the balotti name by writing to recent the LSEOs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, hello.
[SPEAKER_00]: Poop, Poop D. They did a lot of work for Poop.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it seemed that Tommy balotti had it in for the Reese's longtime boyfriend, Tommy Ernst.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he killed him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's see, he was really pissed off.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Tommy Ernst did one night talking about a crazy guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tommy Ernst was so good looking.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and we're all going to Virginia Party, saying fortune artists, dances, and all of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we took the 16th century ferry over.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we're always piloting one of two cars.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the 16th century ferry used to stop running at 12 o'clock.
[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot what you were talking about.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're at Regina Padres and St. Fortunately, not as all that in Brooklyn.
[SPEAKER_00]: We get to the ferry in Johnny Gatches' car and the ferry stopped running.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we had to get back to the beach because it was a party going on that we wanted to get to.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tommy Ernst, you saw them, the ferries were, you know, just idling.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's let's take the ferry, that says no more ferries.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's a no, let's take it and they did.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got on the ferry, took the ferry to South Beach and they beached the ferry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Beach and we didn't know the configuration of the bottom of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So as we got closer, we got beached in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It lists to one side.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, when you should bring it up because,
[SPEAKER_02]: Teresa who I wrote the book about the L.S.
[SPEAKER_02]: if family, she said, me Ernst would steal a hot stone.
[SPEAKER_02]: If it wasn't nailed down, he would steal it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, he does.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's how that's how Tommy Baladi got this stuff at him, because he stole some drywall from one of his houses.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he, he would bid jobs.
[SPEAKER_00]: And at night time, he'd send a crew out to rob all the sheetrock from another job.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you know the Belize had had a name that they were fierce these guys, and oh my God Er, he just didn't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh he didn't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well Tommy was a tough guy himself and he'd take you out in two minutes But he was done.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean he was really I think Qualified and sanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean this guy was nuts.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, he was crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh Tommy Eris.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean Tommy
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Tommy Ernst outside of Jota Baker's in South Beach, which was deplace for pizza.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jota Baker was, that's when they had a Ferris wheel, right on South Beach, on the beach, the end of Sam Lane.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these kids were lining up a pie.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Jota Baker was an angry, oh, man, a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_00]: Came from Sicily and made tons of money.
[SPEAKER_00]: And his son got nasty with these kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tommy Ernst.
[SPEAKER_00]: jumped over the counter and beat the guy almost to death.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, banging his head against the cattle, the tile counter.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these kids were running, I mean not, they didn't care about nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tough guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tommy knew that the balladies were out to get them and he just still didn't care.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was out in public.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lisa, the Olesio convinced Tommy Ernst to go to Jersey and just lay low for a while with one of Terry's relatives.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tommy Balladie and it's probably got wind of it and it was lying in way for them when they came down this long dirt driveway and the shootout between cars was like Bonnie and
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tommy Ernst is driving the other car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tommy Balott is brother's driving and Balott is leaning out the window and they were exchanging shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I mean, they were, I mean, I mean, I could tell stories about Tommy, or I mean, Tommy was going out one of my sisters.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's two years old and I mean, and he didn't care about nothing, nothing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And what I had a problem because when he started coming to Vegas, I was over the in Vegas.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he would say, like, what are you doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: How come, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got the best day, it was all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I had a belly at 65, Bentley at the time already.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm just doing errands.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I couldn't tell him anything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, first of all, I went into do some of the nobody's, he's a man dog.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then fortunately, his ranks started, you know, he'd been earned a wood pole.
[SPEAKER_00]: He became Paul's bodyguard early on.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Paul cost a lot of,
[SPEAKER_00]: was a big earner for the Gambino family, but he was a legitimate guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He owned Western beef, he owned Western markets, he owned the biggest poultry, he sold it to Purdue.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the guy was a legitimate businessman, but cheap, and that's what none of his crew liked.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when they gave him a crew, it was hard because these guys were earning, not like everybody else, and they got a different count because Paul just wanted the money.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the body, how did the body become so trust by Castelano?
[SPEAKER_02]: What was the one of these cases where he needed a streak guy around?
[SPEAKER_00]: He needed a streak guy around that people were afraid of, and Tommy put a lot of money on the street of Castelano, you know, he was getting one of the two points a week, and this guy had so much money piled around, I think when Tommy got killed, it was a rumor.
[SPEAKER_00]: He had six million dollars in Shylock Monterrey on the street.
[SPEAKER_00]: That gone, but there's something to pick up on.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could tell you who, but it was all of John's crew.
[SPEAKER_00]: Two guys in particular.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that don't go away.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_05]: Johnny, is it known who a lot of shooter was?
[SPEAKER_05]: Or is that something that you maybe put into?
[SPEAKER_00]: That, that, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, they put a crew together.
[SPEAKER_00]: The United Nets was a brain.
[SPEAKER_00]: You saw me when seeing the movies.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a brain head.
[SPEAKER_00]: They organized a meeting, and Frankie Boy de Chico was one of them that organized it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was in Paul's crew.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was right on the Tommy.
[SPEAKER_00]: The Paul obviously trusted him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then his father was Boosie de Chico, who was with the Gambino family, as and on the boss for years,
[SPEAKER_00]: So the crew that they had was very loyal and treacherous and because Paul wasn't, Paul wasn't a street killer or not to like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, he, Frankie Boy made a me for 530 at Sparks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those of you who don't know what Sparks is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a big, was big, the steakhouse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, still is famous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Still is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would tell many, that was close.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's open again.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I had a bit of street times, just because the landlord tried to, you know, why?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because the landlord keeps straining them and what he wants.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they said, well, can you rent it to somebody else?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's going to rent it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like six storefronts and it's huge.
[SPEAKER_00]: So then he comes back down and takes a piece of them and they, they, they're, they're back open.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they're getting along so short though.
[SPEAKER_00]: sat at the end of the street to watch it go down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now understand this, this is one of the hits that a guy like me would say, thank God I never wanted to be in the mom because I had people around me or we still need to stay away from it.
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys were all guys to eat and drink together, maybe breakfast that day.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know it was it was it was
[SPEAKER_02]: brilliant on its own because this is mid-town Manhattan which is shoulder to shoulder people are not exaggerating is a weak people are Christmas and it the trees packed and these headers I think there are many four or five what about this there was six hitters two backup all in white trench coats with Russian hats yeah all dressed the same all dressed the same
[SPEAKER_00]: And they had a backup car on the other end of the street.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, understand Sparks is a one-way street, also.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's only one, many made the turn to pull up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tommy was driving.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Paul gets out, he's the first to go down.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tommy is like, right, they're there.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they take a couple of shots.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're both sprawled out on the street.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it happened so fast.
[SPEAKER_02]: then these Russians scattered on the tactics there were absolutely brilliant first of all the worst kind of evidence is I with this evidence right have one guy that now you have six all dressed alike all the same height all white guys I can imagine that the cops must have been going crazy yeah they couldn't they didn't know and right
[SPEAKER_00]: the only way they solved that like you said that you've been a detective they would never solve that.
[SPEAKER_00]: One guy flipped another guy flipped and then they used those tapes the ones that they made up in Mary's apartment above the raven night where they used to have the meetings finally the FBI got smart and said why don't they have a talk business
[SPEAKER_00]: Then they realized they were going up two stories in the back stick case and then they let Mary rent free if she went to Florida and they'd pay for her to go and they used her apartment and they had that bugged finally, and that's when in Sammy was locked up already.
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe coffee had his way finally, I think he arrested Goddy about three times four times.
[SPEAKER_00]: And this time was the time that was going to stick.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, and again, the normal ritual, let's see who we're flip, and they played Sammy the bull, the tape about John said Sammy's getting too big for his bridges.
[SPEAKER_00]: We may have to clip them, which broke his heart.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm only hearing this from you said, I didn't know Sammy the bull.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, everybody thinks I was still around.
[SPEAKER_00]: I left, well, I got to Vegas.
[SPEAKER_00]: The people who know me saw me in Vegas, not in the neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't come back for a long time.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when I did come back, nobody knew what I was uptown.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't private meetings and leaving again.
[SPEAKER_00]: But a long story short.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tom, I was told by the New York Police, Joe Coffee was a friend of mine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was at a funeral at Frank, at Frank Campbell's, and his wife and her still don't have them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, I'm vacation with Joe Coffee, and they said that Sammy DeBull, who gave his life for this thing of ours, and John instilled it, that this is it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to be the family of honor and he's saying he's going to kill his guy who's so loyal to all his life made of means and means of dollars and a lot of killings from him.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why today and Sam is walking around.
[SPEAKER_00]: He don't think he ratted.
[SPEAKER_00]: He thinks John Rattie and that justified him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Say wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's it, but I mean, what's rationalization?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's he got?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I often wondered about what the definition of a Mafia bodyguard is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, but Baladi was known as Castellano's right hand man's driver and bodyguard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't on that, they, it wasn't on.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, they would never go on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I had gone as fuck.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had gone as accessible to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not in the car or anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Accessible doesn't mean you can defend your life the point the point is and I think you call it yourself a body God or Or in cast a lot of his case You'll say if I mean he was he was the boss of a family probably what he was all look oh, yeah, and he's going to meeting And with people he knew and like you said the fear of trying to have an attempt on him Who's gonna take the contract?
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody had to.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't guess.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, that's what they didn't equate.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody went to get approval to kill him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that, but in Castellano's mind, he's probably thinking, I'm bulletproof.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sammy, the other four bosses would have to approve me to get killed.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's never at.
[SPEAKER_00]: And not on that, because he was the biggest earner then.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was meeting with him.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, that was just, that was definitely his attitude.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember, I tell you right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember when Carmine, the main 3D of the Copacabana, which I knew all my life going against in some 13, opened the Brooklyn Copacabana.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they called it the Copacabana.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had the right to use the name and everything else.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyone in Brooklyn?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was Carmine's Copacabana.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's common.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's corporate.
[SPEAKER_00]: They gave the name.
[SPEAKER_00]: But common.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was associated with a common.
[SPEAKER_00]: Common had the flag book upstairs of who who sits where and what.
[SPEAKER_00]: So why I'm bringing it up?
[SPEAKER_00]: I get a call from Tommy saying we just booked.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's great because I was performing there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was there from Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sunday night, you know, it was always wise guys and different crews.
[SPEAKER_00]: They took the whole room.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why I'm bringing it up is this is the mentality of these guys.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tommy Baladi calls me Sonal.
[SPEAKER_00]: My girlfriend is going to be sitting, you know the table numbers.
[SPEAKER_00]: She'll be there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be on the other side of my wife
[SPEAKER_00]: But I want you to sing to us all with two.
[SPEAKER_00]: She knows you know me and be great.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just tell whatever you want me to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just happy to welcome him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen him in a while.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm doing my show and all that is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I go, I'm saying a couple of tunes, directed to that table, which was three girls I remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: He comes, musting into my bedroom.
[SPEAKER_00]: But my dress room, I just got off stage.
[SPEAKER_00]: What are your smart guys?
[SPEAKER_00]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_00]: I showed him where you were singing to my girl.
[SPEAKER_00]: I should tell it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You told me to sing to your girl that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, you sang to much that way though.
[SPEAKER_00]: I saw, how am I supposed to know?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is the mindset you're dealing with.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's so insane power that I should have had what, an egg timer to say when I should stop saying to him.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, numerous times I would do that happen to me, doing favors.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how many had no idea, I mean, did this, the beauty of this hit was the planning.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: All these people keeping them out shut.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Frankie Boyd did cheeko, no less.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because he was rare.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were together every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: every day, but I found out later on why they all gave them up, because Paul was so cheap and now if he's taken over to family, what the hell are we going to do?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're like 24 hours a day, turn some money, see, never gave everybody their fear to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the guys, his crew, they despise them, they despise them, and that's big problem, John,
[SPEAKER_02]: Knowing that life the way it is though and it's happened in the past, but somebody gets winded at this and the score points with other bosses or the score points would cast a lino, somebody would have hold him, but the prize I'm going to tell you why.
[SPEAKER_00]: Today is the day feared, John, very late.
[SPEAKER_00]: Day feared, John hooked a few of God and a lot of guys, John didn't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the people around him, I can't mention some of them, and they were very close to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: That crew did not care.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't go on Sunday morning and get permission.
[SPEAKER_00]: They just did it, and then explained that later, like they did this hit.
[SPEAKER_00]: He went to the commission.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he, I mean, when a guy even got to Sicily they had a problem with it.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't take out a boss without following protocol.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he thought he was going to go away with it by sheer balls.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he thought he was going to scare the other four families at the not retaliating.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that didn't work out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, they made attempts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you know, but I'm saying, but he thought he was going to fracture everything by doing this.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was a bit, he was still the biggest earner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was always about money.
[SPEAKER_02]: the most publicity, for me, that era in 1985.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was the start of the downfall of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, well, that's when everybody was flipping.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when the Rico Act, all of these guys would say, I do 10 years on my head.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because your wife and family are staying in their house, your girlfriend staying in our house,
[SPEAKER_00]: When they knew and traced you and followed you for this many times, they knew where you were sleeping, where your girlfriend was.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then next in, they bring them all in, even your children's houses, say, how'd you get this house?
[SPEAKER_00]: You make this over here, and you borrow house for $600,000 cash.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rico, boom, boom, was it?
[SPEAKER_00]: And they lose it all, a total different game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Families, old families were being thrown on the street.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what destroyed the loyalty, the mom, as what the world knew, the code of silence was penetrated, when it penetrated their pocketbooks and their way of life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me ask you this, getting back to the Pilates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not only the family as you did, we had quite a bit, well, not quite a bit, but enough in our book, not the Pilates.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, why aren't they fearful of his cycle brothers?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they brought him in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: They, I mean, Joey was alive only.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maddy already died.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only, only Joey was alive.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they brought Joey in.
[SPEAKER_00]: They should Joey.
[SPEAKER_00]: This had happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're brother did it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now you're in this life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we going to have a problem with you to tell us now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, can you right now?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they told them.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've been watching.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Joey was the marksman, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to have to show you, I was young and crazy, I was 26.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're older, crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, now I'm older than that.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I wanted him, I mean, that was a crazy situation.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I came up with this idea for the Godfather premiere, because everybody was looking for me to begin with.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I should not get in just to walk the red carpet.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because, you know, after that Fiasco with Joe Colombo, in June 28th, and now here we are in February, March for the Premier to Godfather, I was basically at a site, but I was not going to go to the World Premier to Godfather.
[SPEAKER_00]: No way.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to take a shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Literally, I'm saying,
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's, I mean, if they announced Johnny Rand, you had army archer one side of the sidewalk, you had Mervegryff and Broadcasting live from New York, Paramount.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I felt, if I walk up the carpet, Mervegryff and it's gonna say, and Johnny Russo, that I don't know, and wherever, and get shot.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, I want the hoe you think it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what I was thinking.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was such a good moxman.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be up on the roof and shoot me in the lag or the shoulder.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he said, let me just tell you something.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to work if a breeze came.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know gun bullets this way.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're off of rain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know who my date was?
[SPEAKER_00]: I brought my doctor, Dr. Theodore Jacobs.
[SPEAKER_00]: I gave him my a ticket to meet me there.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was in the limousine and it was not this bad because I felt that he missed.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next day, the night before, Joey said, I'm not doing it, I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I told a couple of people and I got a call and they said, you're ready, a fucking mind to stay in the house.
[SPEAKER_02]: What was your rush?
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I'm this great idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I thought if I got shot on national television, I'd be an instant star.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I'd be...
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the only movie that I've ever done.
[SPEAKER_02]: You always so proud of yourself and not doing drugs in your whole life and I'll be getting the water on that now.
[SPEAKER_02]: How will you thank him?
[SPEAKER_00]: I just... Why not?
[SPEAKER_00]: I took shots on my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you read my book.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I figured he had to use his, I think I forgot the gun of your hat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like insane with the sight and all that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And rifle, it doesn't make a difference where he would have shot you.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wouldn't like liquefied all the tissue.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I know, but I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a good thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a friend of yours.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's no, I'm not going to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, no, I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, with some other powers of peace that you're not shooting this kid, not doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: We got plans, thank God.
[SPEAKER_00]: More so than I knew.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, if I can introduce that first, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_05]: I just want to ask you something.
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you and Balotti and Tommy Balotti, Robby's friend?
[SPEAKER_05]: When you find out he's killed, what's your reaction?
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you surprised?
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you used to this kind of stuff by now?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm used to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and that's a great question because Tommy,
[SPEAKER_00]: Tommy, I mean, we all know, I was Marilyn, good friend, dies.
[SPEAKER_00]: John, I've Kennedy, I became a friend of dies.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were killing people.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I only solidified why I don't want to be in his life.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I was in Chicago, and it was breaking news that Tommy, I mean, Paul Costalano,
[SPEAKER_00]: And his underboss was shot.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I knew who his underboss was.
[SPEAKER_00]: Paul Costalano made the headlines first.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I had to sit down.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had dinner plans.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had to take an hour or two just.
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't believe it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, was your first impression?
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think happened?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you know John took him out?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, it's wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, I didn't think of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think?
[SPEAKER_02]: You had to have a theory.
[SPEAKER_00]: I figured Paul pissed somebody off.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's somebody's looking at, never thought John would do because John was, you know, John was right on the O'Neal and he, you know, he was a true soldier, O'Neal and that's what got to nobody knew how affected he was that they would over, overpass O'Neal because
[SPEAKER_00]: no, he's in school at all.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm going to become a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be the boss.
[SPEAKER_05]: Had you had you known that cost a lot of didn't go to, you know, del Croix, please wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was when they went there.
[SPEAKER_00]: B, I was starting to watch a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: and that was the other thing that they said what an insult so he breaks tradition but see he was such a legitimate guy and only worried about himself poor that's who he was he wasn't a street on a way we saw a past over this what i'm making was saying was a castellano didn't go to who knows a week that's so that's a major insult and that's supposedly one of the obvious
[SPEAKER_05]: attributing factors to why.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what John you see.
[SPEAKER_00]: John used anything he could that the old time was talked with was respect.
[SPEAKER_00]: How dare you not go?
[SPEAKER_00]: And that was that man?
[SPEAKER_00]: No and I'll tell you right now, O'Neill had a really bad death because he was suffering
[SPEAKER_00]: until the day he died.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me think it was so bad mess.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for a soft book answer you said.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have another server with me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, was that Nick Nitty was the same way and remember Nick Nitty's father killed himself not to testify.
[SPEAKER_00]: Drank Nitty brought his own brains out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Nick, I went to see Nick in the last days.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had to move his his bed down in the basement.
[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't walk 10 feet without getting out of breath.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had long cancer.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sofakus and love and lung cancer.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he was walking 10 feet to the door to crack the door to light a cigarette because he had oxygen tanks.
[SPEAKER_00]: He heard a brod cell phone.
[SPEAKER_01]: The last thing people thought I was dead again.
[SPEAKER_02]: I heard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's like, people are unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when you start to think of it, I mean, now you know, I mean, that there's definitely,
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've always said that the really demand dogs of it all is definitely insanity involved with their whole upbringing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, at least they are as a sociopaths.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was, I mean, and if you're going to start taking human lives and live with that,
[SPEAKER_02]: I often thought about that, I mean, you know, what time is different?
[SPEAKER_02]: That was, but the plot, and wind up killing a good friend of yours, that's going to take you out, friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, yeah, and not only that, and some of them, as we know, now we went to Roy de Mayo who's dead, they enjoyed torturing you and mutilate in your body and making you bleed out for days.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't look at you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, he was the good family man.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had kids, kids loved him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's some of the lies.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but, you know, I'm fortunately again, you know, when we start talking about my mentors and the people who raised me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was not going near that to begin with.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I saw, I started earning money.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would live in a life.
[SPEAKER_00]: What do I need to be part of a member of any has to tell people I don't want to be a boy scout That's that's a go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah Well, and you can become a big guy now you have to You have to pay tribute you have an excellent excellent number of dollars you have to make oh yeah Oh, no, no, they tell you what you contribute is you're expected 20,000 week
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, how you're going to get 20,000?
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to do more crying.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what happens if you don't make them make me?
[SPEAKER_00]: That I don't like.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're saying, do more.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they do.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, a bitch, Mac, or put trying to street.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this, you know, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how a lot of these guys got into selling drugs when they weren't supposed to.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because they couldn't earn money.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of stuff was being clamped down.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of them went behind everybody's back.
[SPEAKER_00]: included God he was in supposed to know his crew was selling drugs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, but it's crazy, it's crazy world.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the bloody brothers, I don't know how many people know this, Tommy Balottie's father when Tommy was a little boy.
[SPEAKER_00]: His father hung himself in prison.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there was a threat of insanity.
[SPEAKER_00]: And these guys were top guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Beyond that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Tommy is top as he wasn't as fit as he wasn't as loved as he was by members of family.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody avenged this guy and that's how he went to his grave.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because in this is a question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it all about business?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: At the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all about business.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you took that oath, yeah.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the way it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: And a lot of people still live that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's something for his brother to swallow though.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he said he can't do anything about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and they need to make bread them in, how to respect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, guy, got us about the rules.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sat down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we're going to have a problem with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let us know now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll kill you right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll be watching you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Tommy walked a two feet one shoe for a long time, man.
[UNKNOWN]: All right, Tommy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is that a show?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we can wrap it up and head over to the mailbox.
[SPEAKER_00]: Please.
[SPEAKER_00]: But for the people who are inquiring, I love Tommy Blair, I love the bloody family.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's that old saying in that life.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's what they choose to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: They went out in the life, in the respect, in the honor that they devoted to these people.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that it sounds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tommy had more kids than me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I said, and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Rest in peace, my man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Even my best man twice in my weddings, twice.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was stuck around out of France, so I think he's wedding.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I had a lot of friends, but people I trusted.
[SPEAKER_00]: People I trusted, you know, I had a lot of water-be friends, but I knew that, but just have a loyal guy, you know, I was around me on my life, so it was good, but good guy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tommy Blotty.
[UNKNOWN]: Help me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Move it on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's go make some money.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be right back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't run anywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: We know where you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know we'll find you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're back to the male band.
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's get into it.
[SPEAKER_05]: First question is from Sunny.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sunny says, what happened to the wealth of the old bosses?
[SPEAKER_05]: Did they hide it?
[SPEAKER_00]: You got that right.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're grandchildren living on a yacht.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, something gets too well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they die and wears the money.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_00]: My kids are doing that now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Dad, when you're going to tell us with the money, is there, what money I took out of money?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been all of it on closing with time.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't feel it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who I want to leave something to will be pleasantly surprised.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Next is from ABT.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe he says, Johnny, who influenced you with that style of shoes?
[SPEAKER_05]: See, in the sneak peeks.
[SPEAKER_05]: Got to look over to me about Johnny.
[SPEAKER_00]: My man, Demon.
[SPEAKER_00]: He gave me my first pair of those.
[SPEAKER_00]: I said, I love those who's not saying that, you know, my left foot bought us because I've got my childhood stuff that only came out in my book recently.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got to wear these slippers, I'll get them for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: And at that time, we were getting them from side to floor.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they were from church in London.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he had every color, everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I must have, right now, unconsciously, I have a hundred pair of two hundred
[SPEAKER_00]: And now I get four of my own design coming out.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it'll be up on Locosamir website next month.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, next is from somebody who is referring to themselves as Skullfield's love.
[SPEAKER_05]: And obviously it's great reference.
[SPEAKER_05]: Nothing said they asked, how was your prison break experience?
[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you didn't hear the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: who created the show and directed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, you got to get me out of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you really talk about it, this is gonna be a big series, you're gonna regret it, I said, hold on.
[SPEAKER_00]: All my life, I want to stay out of prison.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now I fly to Chicago every Sunday, a cop picks me up and takes me out to a prison.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have to stay here until Friday night.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, but still, I'm in a trail outside the prison.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're on five nights a week.
[SPEAKER_00]: What thrill is that?
[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it was a great experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was something that I have a substance.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I did six.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was three.
[SPEAKER_05]: He was in episode one, two, and I believe 11.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why, shot six?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what they used.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I asked out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you in all that?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, good.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, I'm still getting residuals from it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just went out again.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it's a very, very popular show.
[SPEAKER_05]: I watched through, I'm into like the second season now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I could, well, I saw the makeup people putting a map on this guy's body.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they realized, you know, we could do this on a body suit and let him just put it all on.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, is that what they did?
[SPEAKER_00]: Afterward, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get the guy tattooed.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot of tattoos.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right, that's a lot of makeup.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Moiled.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, next is from Heaven.
[SPEAKER_05]: Heaven says, Gianni, what's your favorite Italian restaurant in Las Vegas?
[SPEAKER_00]: Las Vegas, wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what was his name?
[SPEAKER_00]: Piero.
[SPEAKER_00]: Piero was a chef that came from Italy had the best restaurant, and then got involved.
[SPEAKER_00]: who once he opened up a down the street from me, I didn't consider him a friend anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Freddie Glossman and Freddie Glossman still owns Pierre-Ros and Las Vegas, and he owns a big restaurant in, I wanna say, in Southern California, yeah, he knows the restaurant business.
[SPEAKER_00]: Freddie Glussman, and Pierre was still there.
[SPEAKER_00]: The dad's chef this man is amazing, but that was the favorite in daggers.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, next is from a soft, I thought says, Johnny, what you tell us about the dose of the lot she tested among.
[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let Pat tell him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Joe Vologin.
[SPEAKER_02]: And sixty four was first.
[SPEAKER_00]: Lipper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you have to understand the atmosphere then.
[SPEAKER_02]: You had Google was denying that there was organized crime that there was any such thing as the mafia.
[SPEAKER_02]: He had come to Joe Vologin.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a soldier, not a bright guy, not a school guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's damaged and does kind of guy, but he had a great memory.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, you know, Genevase said he was going to tell them they were both in the same prison for a real or imagined slight that you know, volatio is denied.
[SPEAKER_02]: Genevase called him a rat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Latchy said he didn't do it, but he he wasn't going to die.
[SPEAKER_02]: Prison can shank in the back.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we had an opportunity to testify on the national television at this committee and he exposed.
[SPEAKER_02]: that there really is a mafia, he exposed the high rocky, he talked about, he took the oath and everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this thing, this was on television in the early 60s when there were only the restation, NBC ABC and CBS, I mean the country was captivated by the sky, was on for days.
[SPEAKER_00]: And very believable.
[SPEAKER_00]: He was a guy that you would think was a gangster.
[SPEAKER_00]: He sounded like a gangster.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of gangster.
[SPEAKER_02]: He made Hoover admit that well, I guess there is a, uh, a, uh, a, a, a, a, moth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was embarrassing for Hoover, but this guy went down in front of me as the first track.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was back in the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: You took the oath.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd do a soon to cut your own throat and walk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then again, they didn't have Rico back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's again, goes back to Rico.
[SPEAKER_02]: Previously, 10 years, I can do it on my head.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you could, because they took care of you.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when you're doing 100 years, that sort of changes your addicts do about that stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: And everybody's broke.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they'll make you a deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that Jovey owned the restaurant, wrongs with my father several times, because he knew him, who'd Joe and Joe was.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's well.
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't, it was off a cross-prounsex festival, that's all I remember, I was like, No, but I mean, the thing I put the fear of God and it was Vito Genevase, because he was a boss.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he knew he was going to die, he just went into one die in prison.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: had Genevase not threatened that would have been not as tomorrow, and maybe not, and more years of anonymity.
[SPEAKER_02]: Rob.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's that, I mean, Robert Kennedy used that, I mean, forgot, I think the law was on the books, the Rico Act, but not Rico was about 10 or 15 years.
[SPEAKER_00]: They never used it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Rico came at the being in the mid-70s, and they never used it till the late 80s.
[SPEAKER_02]: for the mid-80s, but we'll let you test the five minutes and I'll start it.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but I'm talking about what's your name used to Rico with Carlos, but you're the only one?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, before I have him, Julianna used to hear from New York mob, but what's your name is using it, even during the Kennedy assassination?
[SPEAKER_00]: It has to be because
[SPEAKER_00]: If he didn't introduce it, if he didn't introduce it, why did they whack him?
[SPEAKER_00]: They got Sir Hans, Sir Hans, rock, whack him.
[SPEAKER_00]: John used it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was on the book, so I didn't know what to use it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know, it's the Robert Kennedy started using it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just thought it was magma to stay.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was more popular in New York, but now you were using it on a statewide thing, not a national thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: of Rico's is a federal, I know, yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, on to the next is from Eddie, and he says, Gianni, what was your favorite characteristic of violent grandads?
[SPEAKER_00]: What was my wife?
[SPEAKER_05]: Favorite characteristic of violent brando.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just used to practical joker.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to have fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't care about nothing anymore.
[SPEAKER_00]: Especially, he got old, he got even more bizarre, and he said, no, he was fun to be with.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Brando, I mean, even on the set, I mean, all the, I'm, you know, I'm here, I am with Mollum Brando, I've seen him on the waterfront, all, I mean, the greatest things in the world, and I'm friends with the guy, just hanging out with him with his fun, you know, just to be in that
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he controlled that existence.
[SPEAKER_00]: I remember spending nights with him at the Elisay Hotel at the Mokibah, and did keep it up on all of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which day I bought night?
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was just some about him.
[SPEAKER_00]: I liked characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, there was so many of them in my life, fortunately, but he was so amusing and entertaining.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, also from Eddie, he says, how about Frank Sinatra?
[SPEAKER_05]: Do you pay what characteristic of this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, favorite, he's singing.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is drinking, because we know, because we, I mean, Pat and I know Frank better than most people, because we did research on them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I spent years and years and years with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the guy was schizophrenia.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the man was,
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, how would you, and I would know it described him as, as, bipolar, undiagnosed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He, tremendous ups and terrible down.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And hates rejections and hates lawyers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's a, uh, mainstream by polarism.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's high highs and low lows.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be with this guy be hysterical quiet like a little kid and then the next thing we he wants to kill you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that's that's my fault.
[SPEAKER_02]: They did the bot hole.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, my way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pickle 1970.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's when it came into law.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was best 90.
[SPEAKER_00]: How come what's in resusing a law like that then?
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't used until late 70s early 80s.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, I just thought I'd just
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, good.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, next one, it's from Tommy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Tommy says, Johnny and Pat, what has been the highlight of publishing your book?
[SPEAKER_00]: The accolades.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'll lie for me was getting to know Gianni.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really, thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, really was.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you and this book changed my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's very nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean,
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... and in more ways than one i mean uh... if if somebody would have told me three and a half years ago that i was gonna do a podcast and have to look up what podcast meant you know and and here we are going to work we're going towards two hundred i mean bus uh... it isn't bad that the uh... the world he checks still haven't stopped like that and we became friends and we've been making it's it's it's it's it's it's a snowball
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a whole lifestyle we created from this book, basically it's always nice knowing that the product it turned out is good and you can tell it's good not because of what it gives you good You because it has legs doesn't go away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, keep going, fortunately.
[SPEAKER_00]: Folks just sold word of mouth and I'll tell you they just bought a bunch of books.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm performing at a hotel.
[SPEAKER_00]: and they just bought a bunch of books for the high rollers and they set them as an invitation and bring the book and I'll sign it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great idea.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just to get the people familiar, if you don't know who he is.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's put the find out.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: But thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Megan, without the show, we wouldn't have met Megan without the book.
[SPEAKER_05]: I know, without the book.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank goodness.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, it's a win-win, it's not downside.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you, thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: All right, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, good things.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, that's all I have to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, another great episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Keep your cards and letters coming.
[SPEAKER_00]: Make requests, as you can see, we answer them.
[SPEAKER_00]: We tried to get to everything in a timely fashion.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the good news is we need thousands of letters
[SPEAKER_02]: If you got show ideas, let us know, but I'm more than happy to entertain any, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's face.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder what we started that we'd be doing on the 26th show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of these ideas came from our listeners.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, thank you all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have a safe week, and we'll see you next Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Or whenever you're interested to us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we'll see you next Wednesday.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're feeling sad and lonely, there's a service I could rent them I'm the one who loves you only I could be so obstinate and calm man Don't be afraid you can come man Maybe it's late but just calm man Tell me and I'll be wrong I want to receive your friends deserve you
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