[SPEAKER_03]: What's up everybody?
[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to the stack.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Alex.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Justin.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm Pete and I'm the stack we talk about a bunch of books that have come out Was your comic books in fact to clarify?
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not talking about novels or anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, Bibles or any your holy books Yeah, you guys are the first comic with the Bibles in your motel rooms this week
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... the lot of my stack always begins and ends with a full for full reading of the bible that's wow it begins with john and ends with paul are those books about i don't know
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, my Bible begins at ends with absolutely Catwoman number one from DC Comics where my Scott Snyder and Shay Grayson are my bangle who is a tiger and technically should not be allowed to draw.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, come on, if tigers want to draw, let them draw.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alex, there's no role that a tiger can't draw.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I say, this is a spin-off.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's very specifically of absolute Batman.
[SPEAKER_03]: We saw Selena Kyle in her youth hanging out with Bruce Wayne.
[SPEAKER_03]: She went away somewhere, came back as Catwoman.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here we're getting a little bit of a glimpse of that into her past and how that came to be as well as her tangling with some imposter.
[SPEAKER_03]: A big reveal at the end of that weirdly was spoiled by DC earlier today.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, a press release.
[SPEAKER_03]: But,
[SPEAKER_03]: got this big kickoff to a big blockbuster title.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you guys think is this a worthy addition to the absolute universe?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what I was going to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to spoil anything, but this holds up just as good as all the other absolute books, continues in a great tradition of absolute banger comics.
[SPEAKER_01]: This absolute catwoman comic is glorious.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art is absolutely spectacular.
[SPEAKER_01]: really impressive take on Catwoman such a cool story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Action is turned up to 11.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved all of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved every panel, every inch of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was just really, really impressive comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a little bit of a sign-up, but Pete, have you ordered absolute bangers on your motel room paper view yet?
[SPEAKER_03]: Because, oh yeah, it's something.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's something.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it costs extra, but it's worth it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, let's do the excited because we're all staying in a joining hotel rooms.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's quarter in that bed and good enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, so I should say it's the worst hotel.
[SPEAKER_02]: Call them that out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's only photography and shaky bed.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The venue machine only has payday and catering.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what's going on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That sounds actually pretty awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are you hoping for out of a venue machine?
[SPEAKER_02]: Literally.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a really nice thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I also relocated it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The twists and turns of this comic are really fun and interesting, so I think they're really killing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: D.C. is doing a hollow job on this absolute line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Justin, over to you for the couch report.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, I will say my take on this was, this doesn't really feel like an absolute book.
[SPEAKER_01]: of compared to others, I didn't really saw her in an absolute book.
[SPEAKER_01]: So how does that make that have interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I didn't read the whole title.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, but I'm just saying like it's not a knock against it.
[SPEAKER_02]: This just feels like a cool
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... else world z type catwoman story i like the sort of bifurcated storytelling or getting some nice background i like that it's it's pinned around uh... salina and holly as the two main characters and we see them in different areas like all that is very cool but it just does feel less like we're stepping gradually away from what absolutely means and that's not necessarily a bad thing
[SPEAKER_02]: It just means that to me, this is becoming a sort of expansive part of the DC Comics line and maybe it's why it'll tell me I guess I should say they're basically running two universes next to each other and they're expanding both of them are expanding.
[SPEAKER_03]: that's how it works.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will take it a little bit of a step further and say I was actually kind of disappointed that this wasn't a bigger swing.
[SPEAKER_03]: They play fast and lose.
[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, I should mention spoilers for every single book that we're going to be talking about here in the stacks.
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you don't want to play, there's turn away.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the play, a little coy, a little cute with it, was starting with very traditional catwoman, but it turns out there is a group of copycats,
[SPEAKER_03]: that are that catwoman, our catwoman, may have a use to have been a part of the family for the reason leading to reveal of the antagonist at the end of the issue, the thing that was spoiled by T.C.
[SPEAKER_03]: earlier on Tuesday, which is weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, this could be a catwoman book, like this could be a mainline catwoman book, this to me felt a little bit more like
[SPEAKER_03]: What Marvel did with the ultimate books where it was just mostly a couple of degrees off with some exceptions Where absolutely bat bad you have the biggest beefiest bat bat of all time absolute green arrow They just introduced is a serial killer with an MNA data Lance coming after them and All of these titles in this line the thing that we've been really loading it for beyond
[SPEAKER_03]: the writing reinvention of the artistic clarity and beauty of everything that they're putting out in this line is that these are takes that like get to the core of these heroes and characters while remixing absolutely everything else.
[SPEAKER_03]: This isn't really a remix.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a catwoman story, but he has a slightly more bulbous head shidey head.
[SPEAKER_01]: How dare you boil it down like that?
[SPEAKER_01]: She also has a legion of cat woman.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, come on, don't you?
[SPEAKER_01]: He's finding sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you be shot like you could not see a story light of the bad light cat woman?
[SPEAKER_03]: Cobbett comics where there's a legion of cat woman?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it doesn't make sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I agree with you, Alex.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, it's not to say this is in cool because like there's the act.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a great action sequence at the back end of this which I thought was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Her sort of pre-hensal tech tale It's very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you think Pete's predator naturally Disposed to love cats, so he can't be mad at this book and he never will be.
[SPEAKER_02]: And where that's going to come up later on in this deck because I think there's more cats to be had.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is more cats.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think like you said the other episode books boiled on the characters, but even more so Remix them for a darker world where their heroism shines more brightly and McCallum and not a hero.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you could say, well, that wouldn't be the case here, but I would argue then what are you like Shifting and what are you heightening in the character?
[SPEAKER_02]: because I don't quite know yet, and they could get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, you can get there.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, the other thing that I'm surprising about this to me is Chey Grace had talked about it a little bit at New York Comic-Con when they announced the book.
[SPEAKER_03]: And she had said that the big difference is Catwoman doesn't steal things.
[SPEAKER_03]: She steals information.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we don't see this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: that doesn't happen like we see the aftermath of her getting riches we see her being like I don't want to steal those jewels and that she starts hiding fighting with the other cat women but I don't know I thought that was a really good interesting idea and we don't see that really play out here so yes maybe in further issues I guess we'll see.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's talk about another big Avengers Armageddon number one for Marvel written by Chip Sedarsky art by tell you D.S.
[SPEAKER_03]: and Frank Alpazar.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the kickoff to the big event that Sedarsky has been leading up to in issues of Captain America, Wolverine weapons of Armageddon.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also, this really is kick a very much directly picking off of one world to underdue.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Red Hulk series, Dungeons of Doom, lots of other things going on here.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's also all teeing up a new Avengers team that was already revealed by Marvel the other day, so we know it's going to happen at the end here.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, what you guys think about this, we've been, I think,
[SPEAKER_03]: Little if he hesitates about this event going into it, are you sold on it after this first issue?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it's important to point out this isn't Avengers reenacting the Armageddon movie, which I was really looking forward to.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was talking about this scene.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Wolverine takes animal crackers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's exactly what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly what we want to see.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when Ben Affleck moves in the crowd and calls at an oil tanker and all Greenpeace protesters is like you crazy kids, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're making fun, but back when movies used to play on TV, whatever Arby get it was on TV, I'm like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I guess I have to watch this down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching a lot as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's why I can quote it and make references.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a fantastic movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I haven't really fully explained the quote unquote sex scene in the movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: When Ben Affleck is moving animal crackers up and down live Tyler's body, describing them as if they're on safari.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a sex scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: in the movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And none of that happens here except for this sex.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is the other than that, Pete?
[SPEAKER_03]: What did you think about this book?
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was cool, like a great cover, you know, we got kind of an evil Ross versus the kind of Avengers here, which I think is a cool setup.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I think that it was good to see Wolverine here, especially when he was like, hey, I don't give a fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, Wolverine, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know, interesting setup, I don't hate it right out of the box, so I'm excited to see what's going to happen moving forward, but I was really like the art.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this we talked in the lead up to this.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was a lot of talk about how like oh this feels a little bit convoluted and a little bit Just setting up literally leading to one moment, which I think in the case of the important moments that were in the walk tour was called the Road to Armageddon.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was setting up the Colton Captain America to be this super-powered wildcard who will be in here and then Really just that's it I guess and Red Hulk being in charge of Liberia that he's Renaming into yeah, he's like yeah, this is like wants to take out doom.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to be clear I don't hate this like Pete said the art is very nice throughout here very clean by this team I do think
[SPEAKER_03]: chips at our ski you could feel and I don't say this dismissively you could feel like the sweat at effort put into here to be like okay I'm gonna take these disparate elements make the work together and fit them together but it's all of these story points happening here that we've seen a million times before like this is basically one world under doom beats civil war
[SPEAKER_03]: Plus, they throw in this thing where Tony is built to machine and they're like, what machine is that, Tony?
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, well, I built it to predict crimes and they're like, whoa, whoa, that's too much.
[SPEAKER_03]: He explains, no, it actually doesn't tell them the crimes and they're really bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: After they follow it up with him being like, I'd have predicted one crime, which is that it seems like General Ross is predicting crimes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like what what you just said what it what is what is going on here that you're both doing the same thing Like I was like I was like this is convoluted and same me in a weird way like you're saying But I would like to give the benefit of the doubt that maybe that's the point because I do think this book is Crystalizing some of the like political ideas that I think chips at R.C.
[SPEAKER_02]: is going after here
[SPEAKER_02]: and you hear the voice of Spider-Man heroes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this isn't really, I don't want to do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to talk about this because it's like larger world building ideas of democracy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like chipset RC is trying to do a delicate dance of folding some of the realities of our modern world into the Marvel Universe in a careful way.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, I just wanted to agree very quickly with that, but I think this does a better job of that than the stuff that he's done previously on this subject.
[SPEAKER_03]: I still don't think it quite gets there, but it's definitely stronger and clearer than all the catching America stuff he's been doing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do have to quibble a little bit with the spider bat of it all because
[SPEAKER_03]: At this point, I understand we're sort of like in stasis with all these characters, but having Spider-Man being an event be like, oh boy guys, I'm just a regular guy from Queens.
[SPEAKER_03]: I can't deal with this big stuff when you're like, you were just in space.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were in space and you fought a kind of hellmouth or hellgator, whatever it was who is like a multi-versal conqueror.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, let me just jump in and say I agree with some of what Justin's saying this is doing a great job of like setting up some interesting ideas It'll be interesting to like what they catch in on in the next issue and as subs.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about this because they have set this up Wolverine dates Ross's daughter, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then General Ross is like, I don't want to work on it with you and any job on this planet.
[SPEAKER_01]: It will be like
[SPEAKER_03]: You know I mean that that would be kind of an interesting one of my favorite lights of the movie are we get it is but that is a great line
[SPEAKER_03]: David Colton, I don't know about him, either like they're infuse important.
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels important.
[SPEAKER_03]: This whole thing is like, it's leading up to something.
[SPEAKER_03]: The problem with hooking into any of these plot lights, like, oh boy, Red Hulk is taking it over a lot of areas, like, that's not what this is about.
[SPEAKER_03]: And all this thing where they're like, we're getting it, we came up with a prediction machine, it's like, that's also not what this is about.
[SPEAKER_03]: What this is about is David Colton.
[SPEAKER_03]: being a captain of america getting an iron bed arch reactor now he's also super bad with mysterious powers that nobody wants to mention out loud even though we know we're probably the century powers and it's all leading up to something we're like because of the origin box that again he took from the last event which was from the ultimate universe which is split over here and brought by miles more alice through because he went in there again to get his sister because his sister
[SPEAKER_02]: was there, and then she was taken and he found her somehow, and then he came back with the origin boxes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't know what to do with them, then the spots still them, and then they ended up in a weird place with Wolverine, and then Wolverine, because Colton was dying, and they called and needed it, and now Colton's super powerful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is, okay, I would do want to say something about that in a second, but just to like finish up the thought about David Colton, this just all feels like it's leading up to a point where it's like, oh boy, red hoax, the bad guy, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: You think red hoax, the bad guy, and then they're like, oh no, David Colton had century powers.
[SPEAKER_03]: That means he has the void.
[SPEAKER_03]: We didn't realize it, and he wrecks everything, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's where the argument gets it and comes from.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very well could be that, but also it feels like David
[SPEAKER_02]: he's positioned in this issue to be like he's going to kill people and they're like hey which am I doing that for us and he's like yeah I will and I was like interesting yeah the thing that comes from is there's a meteor heading towards earth and now we're we're going to stop major feelings on this very clear piece
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what I was going to say about David Colton.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that like, we don't, first of all, we don't need another dark super bad in the Marvel universe.
[SPEAKER_03]: We already have several of those and they never work.
[SPEAKER_03]: You always have to be like, get out of here, high period, leave a little us alone, and send tree, otherwise it's just insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The other thing, something that I've been thinking about for a while, and I don't know if this is necessarily a bad thing or not, but I feel like we have been seeing over the past couple years the rustle of vacation of Marvel Comics, where of course it's an ongoing soap opera, but it's just this non-stop solar story, this non-stop like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the biggest events.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who's in that corner?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh man, it's red hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like that's always been part of the sense of comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is a dislike off wrestling or anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, there's a more pure, just focus on the fight and the matchups.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's it in wrestling than there has been in the best of comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think we've lost that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like a lot of the marvel events in particular have whittled that other stuff away.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting because I feel like DC's been doing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you don't have the same quibble with DC.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have they been more successful now?
[SPEAKER_03]: DC more overtly was like we are doing a fight called DCKL period like that they're doing that but like the rest of the stuff is focused
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to say exclusively across the board because it's not a true occlusively across the board, but D.C. is doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're focusing on character.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're focusing on plot.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're focusing on the art and trying to make that work and what they can say through art first, potentially, where a lot of the Marvel stuff, the reason I think it is not working, is it's focused on like, here we go, big fight incoming period, and then,
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to fault the writers too much and I don't necessarily want to fault the editors.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure everybody's tried to do a good job, but like I think there's a focus on like, Oh, would it be cool if all these guys thought that would be so cool versus Well, what are we actually saying it out this thing?
[SPEAKER_02]: If I did diagnose it, if I did diagnose what you're saying it feels like like you said civil war earlier where it's like
[SPEAKER_02]: It's premise first, it's sort of macro first, so you're not in through a character per se, like we don't have a real strong character POV here besides
[SPEAKER_02]: red Hulk arguably who's like I'm gonna make tomorrow I'm gonna shove democracy down everyone's throwing I'm like okay hold on there I don't think that that I'm just not on I don't even understand that that ideology really that's like something in our real world even the people that are saying that aren't actually doing that you know what I mean right no one's really saying those words anymore
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a little it's all complicated.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like I think the arts fantastic and I do think this is is getting to a clarity point that I think could be good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've one other larger point to bring up the comic reading this comic.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so much and the other comics in the stack so many characters now are Continued toizing their conversations Well, they'll be talking to me like well, you know, actually his powers are a little messed up because of what happened back in black and I'm like
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need them to say it, like, make it just do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need them to be talking to me about the continuity.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it reminded me of reading Greek mythology.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't see like Zeus be like, yeah, the other day I was a swan and I like fucked a bunch of nymphs or whatever, like we could just get that the stories are all happening and take the points we need and move on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Without having everyone always saying all the time, they're news.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Agreed.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bask number one from Skybought and Image Comics, written by Dan Waters, Art by Pi.
[SPEAKER_03]: Power.
[SPEAKER_03]: We actually taught the Dan Waters a couple of months back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think at this point about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you can go on listen to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this is the biggest expansion of the energy universe in a while, focusing a bunch of dudes who were helmets and can drive on this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's pretty crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I'm just saying like we can't do that in the real world, you can't wear helmets and you can't drive here.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I the only one who loved and saw the cartoon and have the things you don't know how you're in justice?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's, you know, I hate when he gets all sportsy ball, you know, when it comes to something, he doesn't like when he's geeking out about other things, you know, sportsy balls.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's real kind of a lead.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's about warriors, his lines are never, never, ever.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm never, I'm
[SPEAKER_01]: Well the nostalgia factor is too high for me to really kind of look at this with any kind of clear eyes because the whole time I'm singing the theme song and having such a great time to see all these kind of characters back and see mayhem who's completely out of his court in this but yeah the whole time I'm singing the theme song having a blast this is just way too much fun
[SPEAKER_01]: Smart opinions about anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just having way too much fun with it
[SPEAKER_02]: The art is amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good art, I mean we talked about this when we in our interview from back in the day like I like said, but like this definitely goes full heavy mythology building into the mask stuff we get a little bit of mask action.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was I thought we would get more of it in this issue honestly, without having to set up as much mat tracker as we did here, but I do like it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like how sci-fi and.
[SPEAKER_02]: like a Jason body horror this story that's set up in this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the mask stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also was surprised we didn't get a lot of like we didn't get more cars turn into boats and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well get there just the first issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't blow it all in the mask is built around the idea that guys little toys because the figures were tiny in cool rubber masks were
[SPEAKER_02]: a helicopter turned into a car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, a car turned into a car where it turns into a plane.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, some cars turned into boats, submarines, you know, some of them just launch cannons and it can turn into flying things.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's, you know, fun, 80s, toy stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you ever feel like franchises should just die?
[SPEAKER_01]: not if you're enjoying it asshole if something that you liked came out in a different form I you know I felt lit up by this I thought this was a great you know taking something as a girlfriend comment I don't know anything about this but ten writers write it very tense situation there is a lot of mythology building in here
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a creepy stuff that happens throughout the town.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do love the idea of a guy named Miles Mayhem That's very fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do want to see how this is different from G.I.
[SPEAKER_03]: Joe Like because my impression is this is halfway between G.I.
[SPEAKER_03]: Joe and Transformers But in terms of it being an addition to the energon universe my and I want to see each is a more delineation there
[SPEAKER_02]: Alex, you're saying it's happening between Jesuit Transformers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that because of cars that transform and humans that are like a little bit cool with that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's very specific to him.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's about what they do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: All of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you think Matt Tracker is going to be tracking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we don't need to get our access on that's for a different podcast Yeah, I'm gonna try to talk about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll try things track.
[SPEAKER_03]: Other things track.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can I just mention if you want to find out more about tracking and trackers?
[SPEAKER_03]: Please subscribe patreon.com slash comic book club.
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got a weak and geek podcast where you go very deep into different ways of tracking people.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, we take a mouthful about that show tracking.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let me say that this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a mobile armored strike command with a K. The title is giving you what you need What I give it this doesn't say energ on every other word, and that's fine, buddy Yeah, they'll eat some matter John eventually.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna have a nibble
[SPEAKER_03]: Barbara Gordon breakout number two from dc comics written by marica tomaki art by amicain a whoop and uh... bar recordan has been sentenced to a maximum security facility in order to sell the mirror to mystery but she has ended up in big trouble herself and this issue goes crazy surreal i was not expecting it to go this direction with her as
[SPEAKER_03]: Barbara Gordon is sucked deep into a drug-induced nightmare over the course of the issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was very unexpected and it could be great like this is much less prison break so far that I expected it to be like that was kind of the set up of the first issue being like
[SPEAKER_03]: I have a plan to get us out of here.
[SPEAKER_03]: At this issue, it just goes way off the deeper.
[SPEAKER_03]: Terrificing at points.
[SPEAKER_02]: The art really is, I love how moody it is, the psychodermic color palette, and it's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Barbara Gordon in a completely other bowl that we haven't really seen her much in a long time, which I really like.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do we feel about Commissioner Gordon and now beat up?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, how old is he, how old is he, can I use to all to work the beat?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you're talking about?
[SPEAKER_03]: Dude, it's mostly about the fact that like, I don't know, we all go around in our careers, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: But like it's the same way that I feel about Peter Parker who watched the CEO of a company being like, Oh boy, can I take photos for you, Mr. Jameson?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not how that works.
[SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't happen that way.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's the same thing with him being a beat cop, which is
[SPEAKER_03]: Fine, but doesn't make a ton of sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because it detects you or something, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate the fact that he's not beneath it and he's out there kicking butt even though it's anese bathroom.
[SPEAKER_01]: First off, cool cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: I grew with the JT says the use of tones and color in this comic is absolutely fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is crazy and scary and the twists and turns are insane.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did she die in the last panel?
[SPEAKER_01]: It seemed like maybe she died at the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but yeah,
[SPEAKER_01]: What's happening but great action and yeah, I thought this was a lot of fun It a quick reddit search.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like commissioner Gordon is in his mid 50s and to be out there on the street Getting beat up all randomly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess he's could be like reliable be like one of these bad family folks have come and save my hands Yeah, but I don't know seems dicey guy
[SPEAKER_03]: Jay and Silent Bob, Jay's of future past, number one for Marvel, like Kevin Smith, art by Jacepi, Cameron, Coli, for the title, you'd expect it to be that Jay and Silent Bob travel back from the future or something like that, but nope.
[SPEAKER_03]: In fact, Dr. Doom is trying to kill them so they take a tour of the Marvel Universe, which they live in, apparently.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we all do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know how it goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you like Jay and Silent Bob, the movies, any of the stuff, there's a lot of references to all those movies and all the other kind of things to come before it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is a fun kind of in-joke set up here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's a great writer and it's fun to see him kind of having some fun in the Marvel Universe here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Kevin Smith,
[SPEAKER_01]: has a good sense of humor, the quips, the back and forth are enjoyable, you know, you can tell he's a comedy writer and, you know, he has a good sense of humor, so I thought this was a lot of fun and kind of a turned up to 11 with all the cameos and stuff like that, so yeah, I thought this was a fun blast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shouts to Silver Sable and some karaoke opening this comic I like to need like that the statue how much do you think you have to pay to get an Alicia Master statue in the marbling Oh, probably a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: expensive for your local for particularly for Dante the shopkeeper who has still not tied in real life I believe not dead in real life I believe so interestingly dead in this we talked about this with there was I think like quick stops or whatever It was called that they did but they did a whole tribute to him and I was like did he die did he die in real life But no he died in one of the movies.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, he, yes, he in real life didn't die, uh, Shannon Dorety died, um, and that was a big emotional piece for this, uh, but then they did a thing about Dante, the character dying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, in one of the comics that we read it, I just do not remember which one.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know if I think that was not real.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, that was, I guess I think this, this is a storyline picking up on that very particular piece of continuity.
[SPEAKER_02]: With there's some good jokes in here, there are some,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they are, they do a lot of that, but one of the things that caught me here, which has nothing to do with the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let me say, I enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is a good pick up.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you at all like the Kevin Smith, a skewerverse, I think this is a good, a goodbye, really fun and definitely moves between the different areas of the Marble Universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: my other point though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, isn't it weird?
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you guys, how did you guys feel when Magneto comes to the here and he's a villain?
[SPEAKER_03]: I was I was fine with it bothered me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Magneto has been a hero longer than a villain at this point or at least lately He is now from Lee and Xard.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's yeah, but he's been on both sides So he's been on both sides, but in our lives of in our comic reading lives He's been a hero or at least in the middle way longer than he's been a villain
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's right through you out of the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were like, I'm not saying that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just thought it was a lot of my brain.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, isn't it interesting?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so, so many characters move back and forth.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you're not talking about, OK, not in this book.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're just talking about in general, that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it struck me in this book that he's positioned as a villain.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, when I was like, oh, wait, right, because I'm like, he's been a hero for longer than a villain, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like Magneto was right.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of like and I promise to you though.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lots of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Venom them.
[SPEAKER_01]: firmly here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Saber tooth.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we just less than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would argue that Saber tooth goes back and forth still.
[SPEAKER_02]: Venom to some degree or symbiots to loop them all together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go back and forth a bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, let me ask you a question.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you want to see Magneto as a villain again?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the rare character.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a good point, Alex.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what Bathersham is because he JT says has moved on from Magneto being a villain.
[SPEAKER_01]: What feels like this is still not me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think their character has moved on as we've gone to know him They're we've developed so much more sympathy for his views.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the world has changed
[SPEAKER_02]: in our lives to the point where it's like, hey, you know what, this guy who's like willing to fight and be violent for his people, that's moved much more to the center of our culture and in view as we become more violent in America.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know, I was like, I don't think Magneto can be a villain anymore.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, wow, interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hot take.
[SPEAKER_03]: M1, monster racially, number one for image comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: written by Lily and Robert windom art by J. Lee and June Chong.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's the first interior ongoing art that J. Lee has done in years.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's done a bunch of covers.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's done a mini series.
[SPEAKER_03]: But
[SPEAKER_03]: He's on for the long haul here.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is about a girl who moves to a new town.
[SPEAKER_03]: He discovers the monster racially of the title and underground racially that's, I guess, about to be attacked by monsters by the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you guys think about this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Pete, you're clapping.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah well you know you guys were busing on the live show about this but uh i was kind of thrown by this like uh like okay it starts up very simple you know like okay she uh girl is moved or senior year you know nobody likes moving and
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you're in high school, it's a whole, you got to a whole thing, you had just a new people.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, okay, great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was like, and monsters.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, where the fuck did that come from?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm interested to see how this all kind of twist together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because to me, it was an interesting story about a girl being in a new town and, you know, finding a new friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then also being like, I'm a great racer.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, okay, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then the monsters is like, how does that work?
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it'll be interesting to see how that all unfold.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we've got a legendary artist doing interior.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's very exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a classic example of, this is gonna be read in the trade more so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I feel like the monsters are introduced as a last page twist, essentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not even really set up in any other way.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all about getting our main characters into racing, which is cool, and the J.L.E.R.
[SPEAKER_02]: is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, I don't know anything about how monsters race.
[SPEAKER_03]: are they made of wheels to they have engines like what are we doing here can they turn into boats I guess we'll find out yeah I agree with you I would take one step further and say this is a classic first issue of an image comic where you know what the premise is literally for the title and the cover and instead they're like last page ha ha I gotcha I gotcha you're like you didn't get me this is called monster really exactly it's like ha it's a monster racing
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, good, everyone's on board.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get to that, get to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if it's like a jabber jaw situation where the monsters are there, I know we all know when you say jabber jaw situation, say no more, you don't need to explain.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're representing a character from 1960's Hannah Barbara animation and you said it's a jabber jaw situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone knows what you mean, Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't need to go into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like when you were saying earlier about Avengers, or I'm again, you don't need to explain anything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just say Animal Cracker Sex, Ben Affleck, Liv Tyler, I know the scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or is it like a, uh, where the monsters turn into the car?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what, uh, six these reference that is, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, of course, you talk about the car, the guy that gets wet and he turns into a car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot, that's actually what I was talking about, it's impressive.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you got to turn it into the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he was, he'd become- That is a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guess what?
[SPEAKER_03]: It turns into a car.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you never seen this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like you've seen this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, it's, it sounds vaguely familiar, but it's just like I don't understand why does it need to get wet to turn it down.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that seems like because they wrote it in a fucking instant.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's called Turbo Teen.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a kid who, like, and every episode was an extended body, horror moment of him, like, it is hands turn into wheels and roll up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And his face stretches out and becomes a girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just look this out, Alex.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna like, oh, let's check it out, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna hate this and like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: You said, you said, jabber jaw situation is what you're getting to wet car guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I walked that was the other cartoon I was thinking of you want me to not explain the jabber job that's interesting because you told me not to I was worse than fever dream right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was roasting you about you saying a jabber job situation in order that the monster talks and drives the car.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because to jabber job, you drove the car and we also talked and he played in the band.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to mention that the layouts are really good at here as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're like really beautifully done throughout.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why don't we move on?
[SPEAKER_03]: Looks so bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're just talking about this comic, Alec.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what isn't this, this is the job.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not bad.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just feel like I'm going insane right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fury of fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: fire store, but number three will guide us what it turns into a car.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a real route.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not us being weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's real.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, which is just magic.
[SPEAKER_03]: The stream of consciousness.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I feel like I'm just falling further and further into madness.
[SPEAKER_03]: Similar to the Fury of Firestorm, number three from DC Comics, run by Jeff LeBeer, art by Raphael Deletore.
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a crazed firestorm who has turned an entire town into various elements.
[SPEAKER_03]: Why is this happening?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we find out big reason behind it.
[SPEAKER_03]: In this issue as we go back and visit one of the other wielders of the Firestore Matrix, I feel like there's been a lot of disagreement in our Patreon Discord about this title.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some people really like it, some people really hate it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will say I fall on the side of really liking it and part of that is because I like
[SPEAKER_03]: Firestorms.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that probably helps quite a bit, um, what Pete, I'm honestly curious, like you don't like Firestorms, so you're not into this book, is that what's going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't like Firestorm as a character, but this book does, uh,
[SPEAKER_01]: Two people fire actually one and then they're always fighting and then I feel like I don't know man I just did sometimes things miss me and you know, I don't know Maybe it's because I have problems, but I think that the art really is an interesting kind of like tone The the colors the kind of darker tones in this sets this up is like
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't, you know, your mom's fire so on.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is kind of a darker take care and the way it looks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ain't your mom doesn't look.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let me call my mom and find out what her fire is.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: My mom's listening.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure she's shouting along.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's with her fire.
[SPEAKER_03]: Roddy Raven.
[SPEAKER_01]: great mom and browser right there but yeah I the art has like a water color type to it that really I'm a sucker for but yeah this is interesting take so even though I'm not a fan I'm you know trusting Jeff Lamary such a great story teller so I'm giving him the Benny of the doubt here Benny of the doubt
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we were talking early about the absolute catwoman.
[SPEAKER_02]: This book feels like an absolute book.
[SPEAKER_02]: This book feels like it has the taking the firestorm mythology, putting in a darker place and with the intention of revealing something about maybe collaboration, how we work with other people, the way we treat other people in that space.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the artist's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the characters we have in the
[SPEAKER_02]: in the group here and I just think I rewrite all three of these issues coming into this this week and they really worked together as a group.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, my one quibble that I keep throwing out there is that it does very much feel like what they've been doing with Captain Adam non-stop in book after book.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the same basic thing where it's like, I'm a god now and I can change anything into whatever I wanted.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's driven me crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: But there's enough of the firestorm history in here that does feel different and it's really dark and the place it heads to At this edge of this issue feels like it's about to get even darker.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes Like this is this is a big spoiler, but I He's headed towards oh my gosh, I forgot he went city.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's headed towards at the edge of the issue It's just outside of York Pennsylvania Orlando
[SPEAKER_03]: Or I know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wherever it is, he's heading to a big city at Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like they're going to do what other coast city.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I really feel like we haven't gotten one of those in comics for a while.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like we got to go city with Hal Jordan.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got them destroying Las Vegas and in principle, we haven't gotten an event like that in a comic book at a while, and I feel like it's time, and I think it's going to happen to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you want it to be Pittsburgh?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also just wanted to say something that Justin talked about, yeah, shout out to the steel curtain.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art is such a cool, because they have the flashback stuff words that is old time you feel to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they do such a shabber style.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do such a great job of like, you know, like having two different tones yet, it still feels like the same comic, which I think is hard to do sometimes, so just the art departments doing a hell of a job of making it all feel like the same thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the only thing I would say about this, this different, the Captain Adam thing is always about Captain Adam being an asshole, and I got this asshole has gotten to be more of an asshole.
[SPEAKER_02]: like the taking advantage of a young person and the way that we are letting the matrix in this case but it like sort of an AI analogy to have too much power and everyone paying the price for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that is different than Captain Adam.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bishop, number one, from Marvel, written by Saladin, a med, art by Mario Santoro.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bishop is back on the street, and he's put his guns aside.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just blast with his good old fists.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, fist blast, and of course, a threat from the future comes back to you, Hauntim, but has an ally headed back as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess we'll find out next issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, this cover kind of is supposed to last panel, which isn't as fun, but I like this inch.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like this does a great job as a first issue, setting things up, an interesting story, great action, great to see storm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I felt like this was a solid issue as far as setting up an idea, getting it excited for more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, please, more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like we haven't really ever hung out with the character of Bishop and just like gotten to know him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's been always like a little bit of a cipher representing a larger premise or some other idea or in the case of one of my favorite interpretations, the battle in the cable where Bishop and cable were fighting each other as they pushed further and further into the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: the birth of hope and all of that stuff back in the X-Men continuity days and that was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's nice to see him reposition as a hero here and getting into some of the issues that motivated him all the way back from his first appearance.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like storm visiting in here and them having just a real conversation about some stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is a good start.
[SPEAKER_02]: You never know what you're going to get with the standalone comics focusing on a character we don't get to know.
[SPEAKER_02]: much and this really worked on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Remember hope?
[SPEAKER_03]: Skate Ali, oh, very sad.
[SPEAKER_03]: Skate Ali, number one from Dark Horse Comics, written by Sam Humphrey, is created by Sam Humphrey's Kelly Cedicotic and Natasha Boostos, art by Natasha Boostos.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is about some sort of a monster racing league, if you will.
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: takes place in a future LA where skateboarding is a legal and only skateboarder's legal business on these skates I'll leave the title who is skating by yourself but ends up with a crew that may have a little bit of magic to them by the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: What you guys think about this?
[SPEAKER_01]: this was awesome this was a blast i loved it kind of has a feel like paper girls to it with the art style which is great i just feel like this is such a cool idea and uh we get this badass main character and uh yeah and
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a fun set up interesting characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like this kind of like new skull gang and how that's all going to kind of go.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I also like this idea of like kind of they're talking about when you're doing something kind of getting into the zone of it, that's where the kind of like power is and makes you better.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, interesting kind of cool idea off of heightening, like, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: being kind of good at something and kind of into his own.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I love this idea, and again, the art is absolutely fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this kind of does a good job of putting you into a world without ever being like, hey, hey, here's how it works.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's very, the Lex position here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like skating's very important.
[SPEAKER_02]: So important that it's illegal and magical.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we just ride with that idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the R is the real star here, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious, we don't get a ton of like I was just saying revelation about the story, but the R really is fun and has so much
[SPEAKER_02]: Plus skateboarding is kind of magical.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Seating first to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Bleeding hearts number five from DC Vertical.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, camp art by Stippin' Morian.
[SPEAKER_03]: Last issue, we had a human and older human and a child human who would be befriended by the zombie, who has a beating heart who is part of the Snooze zombie society.
[SPEAKER_03]: They got captured by the zombie's friend and we're dealing with the fallout of that in this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think we'd necessarily but if he about this book, but maybe a little hesitant at parts, how
[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is I'm in the camp the dentist camp camp.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, I can't camp the summer time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's time to camp.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the stiff and moreian art is so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really, really makes for a completely unique feeling book.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to shout out the ledgerer as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so much done here because a lot of these zombie characters are named
[SPEAKER_02]: a complicated string of words, so there's a lot of lettering work to make that make sense and to really help with a lot of the emotion in the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just think this is really cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah cool cover as well uh... run bro run for your life uh... yet the art on this is the real hero uh... this is creepy as fuck art uh... just some really impressive style the all eyeball work alone is worth it um... yeah uh... interesting stressful scenario but uh... yeah i'm scared but uh... into it
[SPEAKER_03]: Daredevil number three from Marvel written by Stephanie Phillips art by Lee Garbett in this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Daredevil is trying to figure out the new villain who has targeted not him exactly but Matt Murdock and he's recruited Spider-Man to give him a lesson so that he can more hone and focus his powers.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will just say right off it was very weird reading this.
[SPEAKER_03]: One, two weeks, something like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: After we had an issue of Spider-Man, where Spider-Man had Daredevil helping him hold his powers.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're both live in New York.
[SPEAKER_03]: They both live in New York.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: bump into people in New York.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Come on, Alex.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I'm sorry, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, who do you bump into on your country, Rhodes, beside the Groundhog that you're battle with, which I know is a real, very real thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete's fighting a Groundhog.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's mostly mostly the omnisch, um, I think this is a great cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I have some questions.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was that more be a Sunday last panel reveal?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is the news.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the cover says, but where are the old men and they've referred to the student character as the old men?
[SPEAKER_03]: That character is the old men.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know if Morbius was the Alman or Erwalt because it kind of looked like Morbius a little bit quick on the name.
[SPEAKER_02]: The name Oman.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because we have Spidey and Daredevil chatting and they sort of like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was cute.
[SPEAKER_02]: They sort of land on the idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Daredevil says Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Spidey says exactly Oman.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now you just got to figure out if he's a good
[SPEAKER_02]: Do that, that he's make up the name of a character who is already knows his name is Omen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was not, that's not what I wanted.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, yes, that was very weird totally agree on that, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's something about this title that like it came out so strong and I feel like it's not quite balancing the elements that it's set up at the first issue and the way that I enjoyed there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's leading board board to Daredevil stuff, which is fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like Daredevil.
[SPEAKER_03]: Daredevil good.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the name.
[SPEAKER_03]: But given that we're focused on Matt Murdock, I would love to see a little more focus on Matt Murdock, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, let's see more foggy, but you know, we don't always go foggy is foggy's in Miami
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_03]: Amy Foggy.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think Foggy's doing in Miami, Pete, is it just cocaine?
[SPEAKER_03]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because there's something in this issue, he's like, Foggy's back from Miami.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't see this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, someone who famously filmed in Miami, Justin, you should know, they've just gone around to a restaurant.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the nightlife in Miami is worth it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's like eating on Miami Beach at one of the hotels.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's on a Miami Beach before you die.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... nice really nice uh... so foggy's to create a good he's working on a travel show that he's the star yeah exactly a hundred more days to foggy before he dies and he's still love hang out at my amy beach uh... yes we got it with the nights we eat the three of us went down there was great we stayed in that motel with the shaking bed that Alex really loves he keeps booking sleep without it can't sleep without it yeah exactly
[SPEAKER_03]: People you text me for the paperview there that was like quite the bill.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sorry about that I didn't realize you could get charged for the same movie if you wanted to watch scenes again
[SPEAKER_01]: Great call.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's good seed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I'm going to have to watch that again in 10 minutes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Transformers number 33 from skybound and image comics written by Robert Kirkman, art by Jason Howard in this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: Current consumers are doing a lot of stuff as they go around in their cars and sometimes they're not cars.
[SPEAKER_03]: One of the things that's happening is Optimus Prime is a smaller card now, just in though I'm going to turn to you first.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to know your thoughts on Beach Comer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Beach Comer?
[SPEAKER_02]: One of my, I didn't have a lot of transformers as a kid, but I had Beach Comer and he was a strong prize character in my action figure play.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's tiny but robot and I had a lot of this secret wars Marvel figures back in the day So they were rubber and you could like take the arms off and mix and match with different characters So often Spidey in the black Pre-Venum costume would end up with an Iron Man leg because Peach Comer would like tear off the leg or something Fucked up like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Peach Comer really it was great to see him in this issue
[SPEAKER_02]: It's one of the first times I really felt the nostalgia come for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, join the top bag, get them out of nostalgia bathrooms.
[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, P&I are newed in a top together.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're calling a nostalgia map.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you want in?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I'm good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm great.
[SPEAKER_02]: But thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: You look wonderful.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rubbed up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that this is a fun task.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you're in a tub.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing better with audio equipment than getting a big watery pot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't drop the sound recorder in the hat's tub.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fun to see Optimus struggling with his new body, how he can be a leader when he's less than.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an interesting idea, and I think it's kind of cool to kind of play out and to play with.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, fantastic art, Jason Howard does an amazing job, and Kirk is right in the crap out of this fun, last panel, yeah, I'm enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're getting, I like Optimus Prime, sort of like, or just Optimus.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just trying to figure out his place in the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Star screen really fucked up with a lot of the ocean as we all are.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do get a scene in this panel in this, where a couple of transformers are like, hey, we brought gifts, guess what it is?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's at her, John, and they're holding a giant cube, and it's trust me as I eat or the best gifts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but do you ever bring like a whole ham to a group you're like, I brought first.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I'm from now on I'm going to replace the word energon with the word ham and see if it reads any different in this book, whatever you want to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to get by the hands and that precious ham.
[SPEAKER_02]: I brought ham.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where do the hell I'm doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Power of this ham.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't bring my friends back to life until I get to that ham.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm running low on energy, I need some ham.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just saying, I think it's a better way to read these.
[SPEAKER_03]: It works.
[SPEAKER_03]: Justice League, Dream Girls, a DC Pride event, number two from DC Comics, written by Nicole Mayan's Ejazia Axelrod, Steve Underwood and Mark and Hampton, Art by Brenton Stein, Dan Jurgen's a Norm Rapmond, Vincent Cecil Stefanie Steeven Sadowski, excuse me, Joe Canonece and Alitha Martinez.
[SPEAKER_03]: Front Story has a dreamer and galaxy going through a dream state manipulated by the key.
[SPEAKER_03]: who is trying to find access to some archives that only Dreamer can get him.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Galaxy is realizing she's in a dream state and tried to break Dreamer out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we get a backup story of the Green Lantern Corps.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love this event.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is excellent so far.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was a little hesitant about
[SPEAKER_03]: D.C. splitting this into four weeks versus the usually excellent pride anthology, the one big pride anthology they do.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this title is so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: It
[SPEAKER_03]: Not to like knock something down to build this up necessarily, but I was talking a little bit about my hesitance or questioning about Marvel's pride special, where it was the LGBTQ plus characters, but just kind of like fighting all-tron, period, and that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: What this book does so expertly, is it doesn't forget that it's a pride event, it delves
[SPEAKER_03]: a barn burner of a speech from dreaming of this issue here, oh my god, so good.
[SPEAKER_03]: But in the middle of like a lot of ridiculously fun stuff, big action happening, big plot moves for the overall DC, DC universe as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really enjoy this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think this is working so well as just a great story, as well as a DC Pride event, like the title says.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because the scenes that we're falling through where Dreamer and Galaxy are going through different DC character iterations while talking about identity and all of that, it was just so smartly done and just beautifully, it works so beautifully
[SPEAKER_02]: echo their very real conversation with these comic book themes in this comic book that it also has a lot of just like straight up sci-fi and like super heroes stuff going on all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's amazing to me that Dreamer has become such a central DC character, especially around their events where like what's happening with her is big.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always big and we deal with a lot of the stuff in the past of this and still have an eye toward the future Like I don't know this this is this book feel so important all the time And so like I love I love the focus on dream throughout the DC Yeah, I agree this is really awesome Really impressive art a great kind of use of characters great to see midnight or the dream or galaxy stuff is just absolutely fantastic
[SPEAKER_01]: green lantern stuff, just this is a tight package, it's really well put together and sometimes you know I know when I'm buying comics there's like a special event stuff but you don't you're like oh shit I spend the money on it is this going to be worth it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it really is worth it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They do such a great job of giving you you know not only great stories but really interesting stuff that makes it worth it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The mortal Thor, number 11 from Marvel, written by Al-Yu-Ang, art by Haseu-Sai-E's.
[SPEAKER_03]: This issue, Sigurd-Jurlson comes face-to-face with the mid-a-tourer, tiny little hammer on a string to try and stop him.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was another really good issue of this because one of my big questions about this title.
[SPEAKER_03]: We all kind of know that Sigurd Jalson is almost definitely Thor, but he is just a construction worker with a hammer, a regular hammer on a string, so how is he going to fight all of these guys?
[SPEAKER_01]: that's what this issue deals with in very expert manner and i i like that it's smartly constructed by uing i agree i think the first off cool cover and it's kind of a funny thing where you the minitor's trying to do this villain monologue and uh the not thore is throwing a regular hammer and hitting him in the face he's like knock it off it's a funny kind of thing uh but yeah it does i think it really works well in the story
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, kind of heightens this idea of like it's not him and can he still do the things and that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: What'd be a couple I want to give this book?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really got me to buy him on the idea that it's cool to have a roof with a hammer on the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and the beginning you were joking about it, but now you're all in.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, I'm still joking about it because it is weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't quite make sense that he's able to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: He throws the hammer on the string.
[SPEAKER_01]: Walk by construction sites all the time in here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't see hammers on strings.
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why would a regular construction worker be doing that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's trying to hit a nail from way across.
[SPEAKER_03]: You never gotten cat hammered.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, where it's like you hear someone from behind you, and it's a hammer hitting you right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, hurt.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really hurt.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm not, I like the commitment to the bit, and it does work in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I buy how bad S are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thor, our human Thor is and the way the that.
[SPEAKER_02]: What he does with Dario Agra, a character that is so hateable, is awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love Odin watching and all of the stuff, like, this is really building into something.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's ridiculous, but I like that too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, like, Odin watch?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like Odin watching.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sick and I love her out into watch, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Follow House of Slotter, number two for Boom Studios, written my Tate Bromble, art by Adriano Tertalucci, for the title, the grand dragon of the House of Slotter is dying and so everybody is vying for a spot.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, he only has one choice for that spot that he's trying to iterate very strongly to one of the other members of the House of Slotter, and that is Erica Slotter, she'd be taking use.
[SPEAKER_03]: at the same time there is a monster on the loose who is threatening to break open the entire secret about monsters in society.
[SPEAKER_03]: Justin, I'm curious to hear from you.
[SPEAKER_03]: You've been a little iffy sometimes about the slaughterverse.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you like the first issue of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you feel about issue two?
[SPEAKER_02]: They just these books always spend a lot of time on their stuff and like I don't want to I don't want to only criticize the pace But it feels like
[SPEAKER_02]: The pace is just not always building tension in the way I want it to be built.
[SPEAKER_02]: This does feel like things are going poorly, but then they keep fixing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like the arcs of the narrative feel like they're not as clean as I want them to be, I guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that feels across the board with a lot of these books.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, I like this world.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the Erica Slotter of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious.
[SPEAKER_01]: if we are going to we talked about this in the first issue I think are we going to get more of a continuity across over between these these titles or not yes we're building towards that I believe I think this is awesome first off cool cover also cool pride logo that boom is doing there
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this story continues to be incredible.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love these characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really pulling for Erica to kind of become, you know, step up into this new position.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I just think this is really cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love the confidence.
[SPEAKER_01]: The book is just kind of taking its time telling its story kind of sitting in this characters that are so unique and cool and I also thought it was interesting where they had the kind of like story cover up a thing kind of happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's very timely.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I actually really like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got to disagree just that I like this issue quite a bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I like it just a little.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're all allowed to have different opinions.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, suck it, Pete.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I thought this was very tense, moved very well through the different situations.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not the biggest fan of like House of Slotter Business meeting that we get at a lot of these spin-offs, particularly.
[SPEAKER_03]: But here it feels like that is very much moving to the side as the other stuff becomes more and more important at the pot bubbles over.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, that is good.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is a good place for this to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: It explains why Erica is important something that I was wondering about after the first issue, so I dug it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wolverine number 21 from Marvel written by Southern on that art by Julius Oda after a really tough couple of weeks Wolverine and Nightcrawl are going vacation unfortunately classic sort of man is there and they get into a big fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... leading to a big revelation about Wolverine now i got to say we haven't been reading Wolverine a whole lot but they did tease marmalades that this issue in the next issue are big event called snapped where Wolverine's claws get snapped in half well that's the beginning this issue that already had happened uh... he's already in that status quo so
[SPEAKER_03]: The rest we forget what happened with the adamant team.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: How could we possibly forget what happened with the adamant team?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I gotta say, versus what you said about our vendors are beginning, it was weird reading this book after that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Where it was like, well, but Wolverine's fired over there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, yes, but this is the book where there's another Tyler where there's a lot of them saying their continuity, which I was like, that necessary, just hang out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And like honestly, him deal, the less you say about it, the better because we don't want this to relate to the rest of the continuity, because Wolverine is fine in every other book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I will say I like a deep-powered Wolverine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like him a little bit off.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's better.
[SPEAKER_02]: When he's too juiced up, it makes it seem just, it feels like this gives a little bit more storytelling opportunities.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's nice to have this every once in a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, I got to say, how'd you feel about there's a lot of food porn in this, which is like Pete's second favorite porn.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like you should weigh in on what you think about his rice burger egg gravy, the Hawaiian garbage plate that he has here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's delicious, it's absolutely fantastic, they know how to do it and why.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I mean, this is kind of a funny kind of premise where heroes try to go on vacation and the twist is there's also villains on vacation because maybe villains to the future of vacation too, but all man, uh, the fights, uh, do ensue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so yeah, it's kind of a weird twist at the end for Wolverine to be like,
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, I was fine, but now I'm not so I'm in trouble.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also the eye bulging was really intense in this comic from Wolverine, look at some kind of a, yeah, it's kind of a weird sickly kind of Wolverine, so.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just just catching up on taking my notes, Pete, if I can quote you real quick, you said,
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, make sure I'm writing that down.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just for a rhyme and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, do you, I need to drop a beat?
[SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
[SPEAKER_01]: It's great, man, who doesn't love a good moment?
[SPEAKER_02]: Most in English, that's like the blusher is very interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a little asterisk there, and then the box at the bottom say, CP, to dream from the other night.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am Wolverine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I can't get drunk, which is another big revelation.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're Wolverine's like, holy shit, I'm wasted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, those most of the axel's, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: Those really do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, most of them get me started.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that stuff is truly deadly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I feel like they could have done a lot more with this premise.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the idea of they go on vacation to the villains or on vacation.
[SPEAKER_03]: My problem is that the fights they do ensue immediately versus like you could have had a whole montage of the running into each other leading up to the fight as they try to do vacation stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like try and do a great time.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then you're waiting in the Sunday line and then it's like, uh, come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: A slow build fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he pizza on talking about a cruise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think you should do on vacation.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell you about the beef on the west line that we were in on the Comic Con.
[SPEAKER_01]: My secret spots was the old beef on Weklai.
[SPEAKER_01]: Come on man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think I tried the last day and got food poisoning or did you try to get food poisoning?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, pday did every day and I think I did too.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it wasn't that bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, wasn't that good for our bodies?
[SPEAKER_02]: to start the day hung over after casually 15 vodka sodas or gin and gin and then getting like I'll start the day with a beef sandwich.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's not the only topping gravy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll try this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice house by the sea speaking of cruise ships number 10 from DC Vertigo written by James side of the fourth, Art by Alvaro Martin and Westway.
[SPEAKER_03]: The nice house by the sea has invaded the nice house by the lake.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now they have to determine who's going to live and who's going to die.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some big stuff goes down this issue just in.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were hiding this up in the live show, so take it away.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was happy to get up because I liked the way that the story is really converging now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this issue pushes it even further.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get some character deaths.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we get sort of the reveal down there are two rival houses by different water features.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it seems like only one type of person from each house will remain.
[SPEAKER_02]: Max Alien in charge right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the art here has just really improved and just been fantastic for so long.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think this is excellent.
[SPEAKER_02]: The larger complicated arc of it is really coming together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just wanted to talk, you know, because it's scary and it freaks me out, but man, the color choices, the art setups, the splash pages where it's like kind of darker, but the birds are just kind of light is just such a cool look.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really freaks me out the smudging of the evil face.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just such a creepy, cool idea that makes it seem dream-like, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: I just was like, it's so smart, it's so specific, it gets such a cool, like specific feeling out of the readers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just, the story freaks me out on its way too scary for me, but man, artistically, it is, it's another level.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like this issue as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's some great mythology things that go down here that change how we feel about everything that's been going on my...
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know exactly how to frame this, but definitely like most toxic take here is I was glad when they started killing off characters because there are too many of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's a character guide in the back.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know there's a character guide in that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I've read every issue of both of these books, you can't keep track of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are 20 plus characters in this book, and when the kill of the novel is like, yeah, please do it faster.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're saying it harshly, more harshly than I was, but like, yes, it's time to win
[SPEAKER_02]: the bigger ideas here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: The century, number four from Marvel written by Paul Jenkins, art by Christian Rosato.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's the final issue of this mini series as the century deals with the death of his dog and some crystals that are taken over New York.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh man.
[SPEAKER_03]: How do you know deal with that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like Paul Jenkins work on the century.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue as a conclusionary statement.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, did Paul Jenkins dog die?
[SPEAKER_02]: I
[SPEAKER_02]: and he would like to hold the story because I thought the way it resolved I thought it was going to be something a little different or bigger about something else because it was really like, oh, read Richards differs to the century a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: in his thinking and I was like there's one exchange that they have that was so weird to me where we was like oh boy what are we going to do in the centuries like well you got a reverse the polarity like he doesn't say that but that's basically it and we just like oh geez I've never thought of that thanks Mr. century
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what, that reminded, there reminded me of the earlier Paul Jacob's stuff where it was the century remembering his past in this very glorified way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was like, is that what this was?
[SPEAKER_02]: Was this all a like century POV thing where the void is on the other side?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it really called into question a lot of my sort of just reality of this limited series.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was kind of touching a nice, you know, you know, sometimes you've got a flight of space and have a nice cry, you know, I thought that was nice that Century was able to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And your space is a Dunkin' Donuts parking lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: But don't give away all my secrets, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just give me the address, honey.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's close.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't have any cry spots anymore of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Take them all away.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I thought that this was kind of a touching re-entry, while you pull in for another 50 pack of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Watch it, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, there's so many better donor places than Duncan, but yeah, I thought that the kind of dealing with the dark side stuff was interesting and cool, but yeah, that's a good boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice landing point.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and on the star side of the boy.
[SPEAKER_03]: masters of the universe the wings of fate number one from dark horse comics written by Tim Sheridan art by will slimy there's a set in the same continuity as the movie that only I have seen on this podcast thus far humble brag uh... that i paid to see a movie movies are expensive i don't know if you guys are aware of that yeah um... mild spoiler here i guess uh...
[SPEAKER_03]: you read the comic book.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't need to take off your headphones.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what's on the movie?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'd better spoil something about the movie, but it's the set up for the comic book.
[SPEAKER_03]: This shows what Orko was doing during the continuity of the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what this comic book is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the plot of this book.
[SPEAKER_01]: I Would show us surprise the mom.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought this was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I I will say Really I was not the biggest fat of the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: I had a lot of fun reading this This was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'm orco-pilled.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what to tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh Well, let me say because I thought I felt I felt like too much orco
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, never let's get me to other.
[SPEAKER_03]: They always put up with the movie.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I told you guys, but what I was a kid in my local library would have a science fiction fantasy festival, and every year they'd have a costume contest.
[SPEAKER_03]: One year, I dressed up as Orco, and I got runner up.
[SPEAKER_03]: And as runner up, my prize was a dark crystal vinyl record.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: The soundtrack.
[SPEAKER_03]: You don't still have to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that is awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Who won the contest?
[SPEAKER_03]: I honestly could not be good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it a better orco?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, it's more orco.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a character at the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's clearly the kind of he-man from the movie and, you know, so I'm there that you don't see him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I had to adjust a little bit to this, but, you know, I'm a huge fan of
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so then the soldier bath on this was strong, so I was having a blast with it some great art.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I do like as an entryway into the Eternia universe, the the mix of technology and swords and sandals style fighting is awesome, like we don't get that very much, and so like I like this world.
[SPEAKER_02]: but wait too much, Oracle.
[SPEAKER_03]: For now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: So much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, let me see this costume, Alex.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it just like an outfit in the gym style shirt that you have to have a long shirt and painted a zero on it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, what did you do?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was very young at that point.
[SPEAKER_03]: I legitimately don't remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: I know I did wear like a black.
[SPEAKER_03]: thing over my face.
[SPEAKER_03]: I paid to my face black.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought you said you get me.
[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't want to say that's for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that cool?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that's why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why you got runner up or why you got?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, now I don't want to say who won because it's way worse.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually work like a black sock thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you do magic as part of your article?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, I didn't do magic, but now I am feeling like there was some sort of performance aspect to the costume contest, and I definitely, I used to do an workout voice.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I wouldn't give for a first-hand video to I'm machine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to see you do a little bit of magic and win second place in this game.
[SPEAKER_03]: What does this circle have to catch for you?
[SPEAKER_03]: So I legitimately don't remember.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I want to go back and say, I'm not going to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: Your least favorite does you talk with an accent?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a funky accent.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, Donnie, talk like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, anyway, oh my god, that's that's this podcast number one from Ignition Press written by Andy Parks art by Dave Walker.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is about a military unit or more specifically one guy in a military unit who has the ability to sense people's thoughts and extend that a little further potentially to sense their future or things around them as
[SPEAKER_03]: And he gets sucked at the middle of a very deadly situation.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will mention Andy Parks is the guy behind extraction, which is a comic book that is continuing with ignition as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: So this seems very clearly to be like an across the plate pitch for, yeah, this will be a Netflix movie, eventually for sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: But that all said, I still thought this was a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well thought out were all the good, interesting, central character.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, this is cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll read more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, what do you, I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: I enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It goes hard in a way that I liked and positions the main character as someone who's going to have to choose between doing the good thing when both the bad guys and the good guys are doing bad things which I think is cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say, how do you guys feel about the cold open where our main character beats the shit out of definitely Steven Miller?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I did you guys talk about that go back and look at the way the characters from he was as kind of a Steven Miller look like his name is Stephen Adkins and he is he works in I thought was a shot at Scott atkins for a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it is definitely a Steven Miller take down this might take
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wasn't sure who the last panel revealed was, but I had a great time with this of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: The action was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fun premise dude reads bad thoughts.
[SPEAKER_01]: It beats the shit out of evil people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wouldn't get tired of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Next up, civil war on mass number two from Marvel, written by Christos Gage, art by Edgar Salazar, this continuing a series of snapshots of the necks from back of the days of civil war.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're focusing on the decision that Peter Parker made to reveal his identity to the entire world, the lead up to that and the fallout afterwards.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like we're all pretty pleasantly surprised by the first issue here, how do we feel about issue number two?
[SPEAKER_02]: I just want to say shout to this book, this issue, and it's kind of like, this is just like a conversation book where characters we like are getting into the bigger details and implications of stories that we already know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's for like real comicheads.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the deep dive of this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like the way that we really got to see him explore this with Mary Jane.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're a fan of a Peter M. J.
[SPEAKER_02]: Romance, there's definitely something for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, in Central Park, yes, this was very great.
[SPEAKER_01]: This the next time I see Christos Gage, I'm going to shake his hand and say thank you for this comic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just to see them smooching it up was just my heart was singing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was so happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was just so happy that we got this moment such a beautiful moment central park What a lovely lovely ideas and so I'm sorry you're saying when you say this is what should be happening in superhero comics Do you mean that Peter and MJ should be making out an every superhero comic?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just wanted to change even Godzilla.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly
[SPEAKER_03]: great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I agree this is also, I also agree this is very well done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, with the first issue, Christopher Skate just got it just a master of this sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: However, and going into this, I was like, I've read or heard about this a lot already, but I feel like you found new nuance, and new ways into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a door of fun action sequence with Hydra Man at the end, either.
[SPEAKER_03]: So really good series.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very surprising.
[SPEAKER_03]: Last but not least, Monsters in Love, a Pride Anthology, number one from Dark Horse Comics.
[SPEAKER_03]: Buy, tape-browbell, Isaac Goodhart, Mikhail Muerto, James Town of the Fourth, Noah Dow, Lee Ostertag, Kenny Rotten, Jazzy Axelrod, Belly Rosenlund, Vita Iyalla, Clinton, Claudia Aguera, Josh Truleo, Ed, Luce, Lyla, Sturge's Vash Taylor, Jacob Easel, Sato, Zoey Tunnel, Tetch, and Sina Grace.
[SPEAKER_03]: Woo, now if you have read the oddly pedestrian life of Christopher Crayos, you know that sometimes they have backups where that our monsters love, they're about exactly what it sounds like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are there two monsters love or a human love with a monster or something like that?
[SPEAKER_03]: And usually explore a different sexualities as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here we get a framing device of Christopher Crayos finding out about comic books from his friend and then a bunch of monsters and love stories that I believe
[SPEAKER_03]: have not been printed before.
[SPEAKER_03]: I kind of expected this would just be a collection of those backup stories.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's an entirely new thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought it was delightful.
[SPEAKER_03]: Beautiful art.
[SPEAKER_03]: Beautiful stories.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: a giant apology where we're just seeing stories across the just great creators are interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be exciting to have this be just come into exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like the Marvel and DC do their pride in the allergies and we don't really see many more than that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really cool that this was made so shout out to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I really liked the, I want to say
[SPEAKER_01]: There's the, so you're talking about the, the, the peacock and fire boy and the green goblin and the dragon and then the thrupble with the zombie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thrupble with zombie, zombie thrupble.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like growing apart the one about the couple, which was a nice sort of metaphorical zombie story about a relationship.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought it was cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: um the yeah the zombie or the vampire where um the uh sorority fights back against the dude I thought was awesome yeah um the thrupple one was uh interesting fun but and I feel like oh yeah the dragon boy but then next one I think oh the scene a great story I enjoyed as well the fetus yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the first I've great cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was such a fun collection of stories.
[SPEAKER_01]: The vampire and the demon love and the first one, you can bite me as hard as you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, who's saucy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The ghost partner, one was cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: The witch kiss was a great one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wanted to give a shout to the witch one, just because that was by Jatsie.
[SPEAKER_03]: Axel Roddy was also co-wrote.
[SPEAKER_03]: one-two punch for her because I thought that which story was really sweet and funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's about a witch who changes from a male body to a female body and finally finds herself more herself, but it's more about what he does to her best friend than her.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I thought that was really interesting perspective.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the Christopher chaos wrap around that that we're really nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: So good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, great stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely pick this up and folks.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Watch Armageddon guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's always up about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't seen it, you're gonna really either Watch it or not like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta watch human.
[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta watch transformers.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know all the good stuff
[SPEAKER_00]: They sit on crack big catches and they let us see what we can And he's just nothing, they're like fast, they're so destiny So grab your ring, hammer, don't be late for it, huh?