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[SPEAKER_01]: This is our coverage of the Vampire Listat on AMC Plus season 1 episode 1 Detroit season 1 of 1 probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to change the name we get next season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hard-boiled this month it looks like a hard-boiled it is for going to Hong Kong yep
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's start's going to be on tour all season and so we just want to update our coverage plans We talked about it a bit on our season preview, but uh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're a little late this week I had some travel and couldn't get out of but the good news is we got screeners for the rest of the season So at least our episode six.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not sure about the finale So we will be releasing them the night of each episode I believe that's when the embargo is all double check that, but the night of the episode after the episode airs and
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and we will not be watching ahead, we should say, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And thank you, AMC.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, AMC.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is going to be very helpful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're very excited about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm so excited.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get right into it, Alicia.
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't cover seasons one and two, and I'm sad about that, but I'm so excited to be here with you for season three.
[SPEAKER_02]: What'd you think?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oh, I'll say that there is seasons one and two coverage in this, um, you'll find that in in the same feed that wherever you're listening to this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I did cover it with Christina from Vampire insider just one episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad we're going all the way in like full commitment.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll stop, we'll never commit to us, but we will commit to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I hadn't been given the dark gift yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I'm saying it like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, yeah, yeah, we didn't do, didn't do full coverage for the first few seasons.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here we are, recap of everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I, my favorite comment that I saw, and I wish I could remember who said it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw it on Blue Sky, someone was pointing out that if interview with a vampire was about to press in, this is about, uh, let's start side of the story is about Mania.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's absolutely like night, the night and day difference.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just did a full rewatch of both seasons, which was, uh, I deeply enjoy, but it is
[SPEAKER_01]: heavy at times, you know, and I found myself by the time I finished season two, I had already watched the new episode once, and I found myself like, you know, I'd been really looking forward to things like, you know, full spoilers here, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd been really looking forward to things like the trial and, you know, the
[SPEAKER_01]: the devastation of it all, but I found myself really looking forward to getting back to this to this new tone.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, obviously, there's devastation headed our way this season for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've already gotten plenty of teases, but
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, I mean, I had a really good time with the first episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was almost jarring when I first watched it because it was such a tonal shift.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I had, I had also done some rewatching, not a full rewatch, but I had also rewatched parts of seasons one and two.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's so, like, Louis is such a dramatic narrative, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And the status dramatic in his own way, but you're right, the
[SPEAKER_02]: He's poetic and yet he's his own worst critic right and this non-linear format is a genius way to do this because it makes me understand that the show runner is smarter than me I would have never thought to do it this way
[SPEAKER_02]: And a show is more fun, I think, when you know that the showrunner is smarter than you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do, like, a clearly intelligent showrunner with, and in a lot of these decisions, you can only swing this hard, or this, I don't know, this wide, or wild, or whatever, if you have a certain level of taste, and I think,
[SPEAKER_01]: an important thing about being a good showrunner is not only having that intelligence in taste, but yeah, having the intelligence in taste to surround yourself with other people who are experts in their areas and have intelligence in taste.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's like it just goes to show a good leader knows to, you know, you're not trying to shine brighter than the rest,
[SPEAKER_02]: if I'm touching that many more to them than that that's that's right I think and well the thing is if you have a show that's giving you whiplash it can go one of two ways right one is the show doesn't know what it wants to be and here I think this show knows exactly what it wants to be absolutely this is a confident pivot and that's why it's so great and this uh you know you why I mentioned I want to talk about the title change
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's great to change the title because it's before you even turn on the TV, you know that you're watching something new, you are not sitting down for the same interview continued and that's a refreshing take on these kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would love to hear from anyone who just watched this without having seen the prior show.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very curious.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think there's no reason if you watch this as the first thing, then I think you could follow it perfectly, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be references that go over your head, but there's also references buried in here for the rest of the season that you and I know who, you know, that he's having
[SPEAKER_01]: But most people don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I don't think you would be any more confused in the average viewer if you hadn't seen what was prior.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you will lose a lot if you don't want to interview.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I do wonder if you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's his own story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if people could get sucked in through this just because of the wild, you know, colorfulness of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, they're, they're like, wait, there's a whole backstory.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to know about what happened between these two before this.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if I feel that way after next week when I think we're getting a scene that you and I have been very excited about and quoting for four months now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, speaking of of list art in the Wii.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and just the whole depression versus Mania thing the last time people like to bring up a lot how this shows all about some subjectivity of, um, of perspective and that's one thing that I really like about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we haven't really seen the real list at until the very end of the last season, but then we saw a depressed list at
[SPEAKER_01]: And now we're seeing someone who, you know, that song Black licorice in this, in this episode, is about him going for his first kill after he and Louie reconciled at the end of the last season.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's something he said in one of the, you know, interview roundups that they do.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like this whole thing is about him trying to restart his life, but like how do you break out of that depression?
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that there's that dangerous mania is like the flip side of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what I just think about like at the end of the last season, I was thinking about this as I was just watching this yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: When he and Louie get together and he's
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been worrying about Louis since that night that our mom called him in the 70s when Louis hurt himself.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he finally got this release after and like just to mark, just to, you know, note how much time has passed.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the difference between young Daniel and Eric Burgosian Daniel, like that's how long he's been worried about that night.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Louis comes to him and they get to have this confrontation and they were back to a good place until we'll talk about what happens, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think there's just like this enormous relief, but then also who am I now question going on?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you can figure that out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's going to be the whole season is who am I?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did not get to see the other thing is it's kind of funny that we had two very different but very excellent representations of tripping in our two favorite shows right now within the past couple weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even think about that comparison.
[SPEAKER_01]: The other one's widow's bay for anyone who doesn't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was definitely a trip, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They both felt accurate in different ways, not that I would know, of course, just Fred's told me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm excited to get right into the details of this show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we go right into that episode breakdown?
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometime in the future, a one-eyed Armand and a one-legged Louie walk into an auction home where the collections of the Vampire Listot are about to be sold.
[SPEAKER_02]: A lot, one of two is the complete works of the Vampire Listot
[SPEAKER_02]: Am I saying that right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm always paranoid.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to say this wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you don't have to say the tea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you say the tea?
[SPEAKER_01]: You can trap that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, including his 20 25 self titled album.
[SPEAKER_02]: Before anyone can bid the collection to set ablaze on the order of the curator.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lot number two is a music box containing listot's blood, a single copy of his complete works, and 111 albums containing the omniscient history of the events of the 2025 album, and supporting tour, and the consequential global catastrophe.
[SPEAKER_02]: That sprung from said album and tour as narrated by the vampire listot himself, the collection has named the failures and it begins our narration.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this, oh, we didn't say that we're going to do a book spoiler discussion after the end credits.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: So keep that in mind, folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: We will talk about book spoilers in the end credits.
[SPEAKER_02]: But before that, um, we're not going to talk about future knowledge that we have.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I'll just raise generally here and then talk about this more.
[SPEAKER_01]: When exactly is a set, this seems to be, I mean, this is obviously a set in the future.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, book readers probably have a better idea of when it's set, but then the question is, is this even set during this season?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are we gonna see a resolution of this season?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't think we're gonna see it this season now.
[SPEAKER_02]: This feels far future to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think,
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is, okay, so the first two seasons, obviously they split the first novel and half of the first two seasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the question is, will they do the same?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Rollin Jones has already said basically a season four would be called Queen of the Damned.
[SPEAKER_01]: But these two books, the Vampire Listat and Queen of the Damned are already like two halves of one story.
[SPEAKER_01]: has kind of a cliffhanger in a way so I don't know like a big part of me hopes that they are soft renewed for season four.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that they've already written songs for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Rowan Jones said the best song is a season four song.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know where does this end.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good question.
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I think that we can't go exactly at book boundaries.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I haven't really read a lot of the books.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've read the first book and half of the
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't think they're going to go straight to the bad book boundaries.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they are likely going to take elements of both.
[SPEAKER_02]: And from from all the messaging I'm seeing, I feel like this season rather than being bound by a book is going to be just about the, again, a listot finding himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is the vampire listot?
[SPEAKER_02]: And what is he setting in motion?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then next season, we'll be more about consequences.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they've been putting a lot into the marketing this season.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really glad to see it, and I really hope it's paying off.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does seem like there's a buzz, but then again, I am, I've inserted myself into the communities where there would be.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're not representative of the general pop people in all this.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, so I hope people like it as much as it seems to from my little bubble.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you, do you remember the whole Banksy thing where he sold that painting
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I didn't know about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was, I remember it was from, it wasn't that long ago, just like a few years ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he sold it at auction.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like this print.
[SPEAKER_01]: I forget it's like a little girl with him, brother or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's something that like he had put, you know, out in the wild as he does.
[SPEAKER_01]: But now it was a print.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was sold for like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: pulling numbers out of the air, but something like 1.6 million, let's say, and then it was shredded after, unlike the last thought version, this one was shredded after it was bought, but then the person was like, no, I'll still keep it, and then went and flipped it for like 20 something million.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it was more valuable now that it was part of this big stunt, which is just so ironic considering banks' whole point about anti-capitalism in blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So how expensive are the ashes going to be of the stock's collection?
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: She only played one.
[SPEAKER_01]: One.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: What is that currency?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that a currency now?
[SPEAKER_02]: What is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Chinese.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't sure if this was going to be like the world order has collapsed and we've made a new currency.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just because it's so far in the future, it seems like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was also just I wanted to call one of the things out because I saw this really cool reddit post about it That I didn't think about this the fact I was just why I was looking up like what does it mean the whole thing where he did like the album with bottle air and bottle air is a friend trader who did write something called the vampire live on peer one of the early Fiction about vampires, but someone posted on on the reddit portrait
[SPEAKER_01]: of mimics, posted this whole on post.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to read the whole thing, but just pointing out that Baudelaire was one of the fathers of the symbolism movements, one of these so-called decadence, which is, it was a movement that was a reaction against naturalism and realism.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we had like the whole depression thing, and now this is like a reaction to that this season.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just a quote part of portrait of mimics
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we already know that the failures are not going to be the objective truth.
[SPEAKER_01]: We already know this season is going to be bombastic in Baroque.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think what the Baudelaire song cycle confirms above all else is that it is both reactionary and intended to cause an incendiary reaction.
[SPEAKER_01]: Quite literally, as we see in that opening scene, but also as a story unfolds to its audience.
[SPEAKER_01]: The similist and decadent movements are both essentially saying the natural world, the real world is insufficient, it sucks, haha, we got vampire jokes and living there, just raw dogging realism is pointless.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is real isn't the point, the effects of what is real are what matters.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you have to aesthetically bend or enbellish or imaginatively editorialize something to convey it's effects, in a way that is more real than reality.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really interesting because it reminds me so much of listot's little monologue.
[SPEAKER_02]: When Daniel makes him talk to the camera, he's like, facts are irrelevant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yous are everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's delivered first of all as amazing in every single, like he's just eating all the dialogue, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just eating it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what word I'm looking for here, but he's doing a great job as an actor.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's all I'm trying to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's putting the scenery on his plate and having a meal.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go, he's making a meal of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, that's really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for doing that deep dive.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's, I think it's, yeah, it's interesting, like so if the prior, if interview of the vampire was about, you know, memory is a monster, the Odyssey of Recollection is this about what is the best way to tell the truth?
[SPEAKER_01]: What is the most effective way to tell the truth?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is interesting, and we already have list of correcting the record a little bit in this episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to talk about, we had a certain telemasca agent in the crowd.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely going to, I definitely want to talk about that more in the book spoiler section, but yeah, Raglin, Raglin, James, it's like- Raglin, James, yes, that is his name, good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was like that is interesting that he's there and I think that's to tell us that something is going to happen
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so definitely want to talk about that in the book spoiler section.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is interesting that in one of the after-dark things, the showrunner, Roland Jones, he said something or maybe the other executive producer there, one of them said something about there being one character who has been in and then they backed up and said, made an imprint on all three shows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now we know Ragland James has been on telemaska and obviously this show, but does have mean something for the May Fair which is maybe in season three?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it could be, I mean, there's, they've set up a lot of nonsense to happen in season three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Make sure it reaches.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that guy could really fit in.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll, we'll save the rest of that for after the, uh, the books, while you're warning.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I ask you what the attempted extinction of the Y chromosome?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on with that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's start.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, well, it's not as he said it's not his fault.
[SPEAKER_01]: He may have contributed to it, but that's definitely going to be in the book's weather section discussion too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was for the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: This and Rice went wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: I go.
[SPEAKER_01]: So some feminist rage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I said, I support off feminist rage.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's all valid.
[SPEAKER_01]: except it's not anti-adulistad, you know, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think it's interesting that so we we had the the doubled storytelling thing in, you know, where we doubled the interviews for interview with the vampire that there's another one in the 70s and the one in the 2022.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now for this, we have this black and white documentary.
[SPEAKER_01]: So whenever we see the black and white footage, that's Daniel's documentary, but then we have like that's not on its own, the framing of the interview.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's instead this other layer of this mysterious quote unquote omniscient history, the failures album.
[SPEAKER_01]: So does that mean that documentary never comes to fruition?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to can.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he's going to can to what does it slap Chris Rock and stroke his ass.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's almost a triple, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because you have the failures, you have the present day, and then you have, and the failures are in the future.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have the future than the failures, the present day, and then whatever he's telling Daniel about the past, it's weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's very, there's some time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why me miss going on, not like in a time travel way.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not this, uh, Dr. Who.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then I also have a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: We just found out the Christmas special not happening in Dr. Who will see what happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: They won't let it die, but I don't think we're getting it back anytime soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, about this, I think it's interesting that these failures albums, there are introductions by, and it's Guy Madden, who is himself just a Canadian filmmaker, apparently Rowland Jones likes him, and he's like, what you just do these little interstitial narrations, but then the question is like,
[SPEAKER_01]: that what who's cutting this together because at some point one point we hear the stop making note like oh take this out before the final version but it's still in there uh we have this other guy narrating and it's in a completely random order like so we hear album 2 side b is the stop learning about the book album 5 side b is night 2 and Detroit but
[SPEAKER_01]: album eight side a is like yeah it's just feels completely all over the place in this hundred and eleven collection who has cut this together that's it feels like it wasn't let's stop me the recordings but someone else cut them together do agree I agree I think so that said let's stop loves a good liner note and uh you know he might have you might have
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, it's just the other thing is why our, why is our mind without an eye and Louis without, like, a leg or something, it seems like their vampires exposed to heal.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a lot of questions and I don't think we're any of the answers tonight.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's me too.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's there to make us go, huh?
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Messing with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's go on to Lestat on tour.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to read it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, in the spring of 2025, we watch the stot on tour into Troy singing his hit Long Face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: After crowd surfing and levitating back on stage, he sends his doppelganger jar to get photographed as a normal human and the stot and angers his manager Christine by going partying.
[SPEAKER_01]: On his tour bus, he meets with his documentary in Daniel Maloy, who is
[SPEAKER_01]: unimpressed and wants to know if Lestot stuttered as a child.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lestot begins texting Twa and asking her to come to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's such a slut.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says that to everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, Lestot declares this his era and Daniel has some qualms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I took the qualms from what I was bad to you had qualms I mean it's so like every time I feel angry on behalf of Louis the fact that this like come to me song is it's just let's stop pulling the same moves on and of course I think he and Louis are endgame but he's just pulling the same moves on Louis that he pulls on everyone and sure he's like oh
[SPEAKER_01]: but let's start, let's start, let's start, let's start, let's start, let's start.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he didn't give me kindly.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Contessa.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love him.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have here that Louis is ignoring Daniel?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess he's mad at him from publishing the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: which is kind of wild that like why did you agree to do the interview?
[SPEAKER_01]: He thought he burned it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't like even though I just rewatch his season and Daniel does mention the cloud several times because every time the telemaska sent him stuff during the interview he'd be like, it just came from the cloud and at no point is Louie like, what's the cloud?
[SPEAKER_01]: But he assumed that burning his laptop would destroy all the interviews.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what was that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, in their episode of Parks and Rec were Ron Swanson smashes as a computer because he thinks that'll all race him from the internet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh god, this reminds me of Zulander.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the files are in the computer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many good quotes in this scene.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just have to pick a couple.
[SPEAKER_02]: Daniel asks, let's start having a accumulated profound wisdom and experience through the dark gift of immortality, why have you chosen to waste its singing music?
[SPEAKER_02]: No one wants to hear it, pants, no one should ever squeeze into.
[SPEAKER_02]: He really knows how to roast people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the exchange where he's like, um, Daniel setting up like, oh, you lived through all these eras of history and, and let's not just go, Joey Chestnut.
[SPEAKER_01]: What?
[SPEAKER_01]: He eats hot dogs.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's extraordinary.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope to meet him one day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a question?
[SPEAKER_02]: right right that's how that's how we get to that question and then later um you know let's not like hey you know post malone and the other face tattoo people they're filling up stadiums and you just did a venue of 800 people why and let's not for once is
[SPEAKER_02]: Honest, I'm Vame and shallow and fear an empty seat, ask me an easy one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I love that we do see that we talk Daniel doing this before with Louis and her mom.
[SPEAKER_01]: But of course it's like Louis and her mom or whatever is wrong with all of them and none of them are innocent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Louis and her mom are composed and relatively easy to interview when they're not threatening to kill you.
[SPEAKER_01]: at least I do so all over the place so Daniel asking a different question getting a different answer every time I don't know I think that's I think the same question right he does in the same question yeah several same questions but yes actually about the stuttering yeah right I just I ask it every night and I get a different answer every time
[SPEAKER_01]: But I love that he's denying his transformational trauma.
[SPEAKER_01]: It reminds me of when what's his face from succession was pre-greaving.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pre-greaving.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: The idea of, I mean, it's funny and it's not like this transformational trauma.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Louis definitely had that for a show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a real thing in this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I would imagine it's got to be like, even if it's cool to be a vampire, you still, you can't go out during the day now, you know, it's, um, your life is changed, erect, irrevocably.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Unless you're listed out, then you'll just deny that your life is changed, so no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's start denying a lot of things here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is really funny because there's a lot of Easter egg callbacks to very thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he says, well, first of all, he denies that he hired Daniel to get Louise attention, which come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he also says he did not threaten Claudia with rape and betraying as we saw in the first season.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was involved with the writing of Dumpus Wally because he spent most of the 19th century underground.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had never used infinitesimal wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: it was raining that night when he heard the heart stancing.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's never dressed as a harlic win.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's never had hair that short.
[SPEAKER_01]: He never embroidered Louise initials in his ticket pocket.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then this is the part where he said, yeah, these are the editorial wags of an insane person and then note to self edit that out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, yeah, that it's, I think I believe most of these things, but why did he want to edit that last part out?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's calling himself insane, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he was talking to you saying that about Louie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no, I thought he was saying this would be a editorial way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it didn't say for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's saying one for being so petty about all these things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the first one's a pretty big allegation.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess that's not a bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the embroidering the pocket and the hair length.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are insane person.
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why does it start buried for the majority of the 1800s?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, Eja, it's a thing in the books that vampires when they get really upset, they just go take long naps in the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, the stats done at a few times.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this season we will find out why he was that the whole, yeah, periods.
[SPEAKER_01]: all the different things that he's been through, but it's interesting that in the books after so interview the vampire does indeed and with Louis meeting up with Sad the Stats and then them going their own ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the vampire list that book.
[SPEAKER_01]: After that, Lestocco is into the ground and takes another dirt nap and then is woken up by the music.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's how the vampire Lestocco starts.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's interesting that he didn't take a nap now.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just had that conversation with Louie and then went out and chased someone and moved to Montreal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: we also can't follow the timeline from the books exactly because they moved it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, yeah, it's all a bit of a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not us.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this in silo, or both keeping me on my toes with the changes.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's long as it's well done, then I love it, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: right exactly and and that's what that's what makes it fun and you know we talk about all these David loves his test right David loves his meditation test the shipy test does it does it fit better for the medium and whatnot and like so far everything I've seen here has been an improvement for the medium yeah absolutely absolutely absolutely absolutely and for the era
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that the Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt interview with the vampire movie gets made in this universe?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he has to watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, all this period stuff is nonsense.
[SPEAKER_02]: We never did this movie being white.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you kidding?
[SPEAKER_01]: They white watched you, Louie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you would clearly be angry about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: and rightfully so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting to see like because obviously these books were written a long time ago but they were actually quite progressive for their time when you think about it but it's interesting to hear like so I was just rereading the vampire list ad and in hearing and rice talk about the way Lestat talks about the 80s as this time of hope.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then here when he's ranting about the 2020s, it is not at all hopeful, but no.
[SPEAKER_01]: How could it be, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: The kid says human life has never been more arbitrary.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: the value of human life that it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you, I think Lestad has, is in large part the same as a character, but he is in a different era.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, he went from like when he's a glam rocker in the 80s, that's the most popular, or not the most popular, but it is an extremely popular genre.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now there's all the commentary about how rock is not popular now, which I'm in total denial of because I'm a rock fan.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like rock too, but you're, but he's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's not as popular now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny that it's like the showrunners never put scars on his chest and now we're just blaming Louis for misremembering that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but I almost feel like it's a little bit metaphorical too, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that Louis
[SPEAKER_02]: you know unbothered person and let's not has both physical and emotional scars that Louis really either was on a wear-home or willfully ignored.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's linking that with indeed.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not just the physical scars that Louis and people in general when you look at someone else we we see our own pains but tend to overlook the scars of others.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also that we spent like 20 years moping as we know from the last season.
[SPEAKER_01]: So sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's it's hard to get to know someone when you're moping
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I love also when you can't read their minds.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that it's, well, we'll talk about the mantra, and twathing later, but yeah, the mom, that was a Friday and slip.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I love that the Daniel calls it fledgling speak and spell, because of course, if you're vampire, the only people you have to text with are your master fledgling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a right thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but he is more than one fledgling.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a turns out.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, what do you think of the new characters that they added like, so we have D Farma who called Daniel Puppy, which is an entire internet is calling Daniel Puppy, um, and they've both O.D., which okay, so we've got, it turns like she's like a blood bag who does the drug so they can suck her neck and then get high, basically.
[SPEAKER_02]: D is the one that was in the elevator with him in the fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in favor of James.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then when they come out and he's, he just, I love like he tells her to face the wall because he's going to fight the other vampires.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's just like standing there doing her affirmations, like what am I getting into?
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: What was it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I wrote them down, but it was like, I am in charge of my work life balance.
[SPEAKER_02]: I make you choices that are good for my long-term well-being.
[SPEAKER_01]: With then, I also know Christine Claire, the so-called band shell, who she's not judgmental at all, but she's the one trying to hold everyone's shit together, and they're all fighting her.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, sign it in pen, he's like, no, but it's funny, it's blood because I'm a vampire, and she's like, no-to-reason-org and don't-notarize red ink.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, don't worry, it'll turn black eventually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Poor Christine though.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's just trying to be semi-reasonable.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, you know, I just sold a house this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was an actual thing where it was like, I had to send certain documents in red.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, certain documents in black and certain documents in blue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was like very strict.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I had two pens there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a whole thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the machines could tell them a part or something?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess it's like a bank wanted in blue and because if it's blue you can't fake that right it's You will be an original anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I see.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what my lawyer told me where to sign and I Yeah, with a pen and it happened right right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you realize that the yard a
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't realize it until it was pointed out in the after-tarke, especially, I think, maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's somewhere else.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize that either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why they look so much alike.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought it was funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: How many drinks have you had 1.5, 1.5 and there's like a whole handle of liquor open in front of him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that count as one?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I noticed this second time I watched when he's walking out from there, Salamander is just like getting a blow job in the background.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just yeah, pure rock and roll.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is also where everyone's quoting that, uh, yeah, the stats is aware of red heat and discord.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, did you see that real life video of Sam Reed, learning about the as he called it, the Omegaverse?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was like he and Jacob Anderson had to read thirst tweets about each other for I don't know is it BuzzFeed or something?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, I'm talking about he was on the street.
[SPEAKER_02]: He goes I just learned what the Omega versus tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: He just said that to a fan But no, but that was from okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was because it was in the thirst tweets BuzzFeed video if you want to see him learning it in real life in life
[SPEAKER_02]: I had to be explained to what that is, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, I guess it's a fan fix, somebody right in and correct me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can do it anonymously if you want.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I guess you sort, care fictional characters into like alpha's and beta's and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and then you do fan fiction with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Lestad, I believe, is a alpha.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would expect it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And some thin explainless to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they did the woman in the bookstore and Montreal did call, which she called our mom the beta soy boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that part of the Omegaverse?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: I should.
[SPEAKER_02]: I should.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also, it's fun that Dr. Fried is back because he's the one who was in, was it in both seasons or just one of them where he was at the Dubai apartment and was like giving Daniel, his medicine at one point and every time he would, Daniel would speak to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He'd be like, I'm not here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's keeping that up.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's still on tour with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm not here.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is all up, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well Alicia, let's take a quick break, come back, and continue the tour.
[SPEAKER_02]: Back on Halloween, listot plays a piano ballad for Louis on FaceTime, and Louis describes
[SPEAKER_02]: Lestat invites Louie to visit him in Montreal across the street from Satan's night out, a rock band.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then, Lestat gets a notification about Daniel's book.
[SPEAKER_00]: Louie claims he's known it's been coming out only for a month.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not as not happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lestat goes to a local bookstore and buys a book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, other customers talk his Mac about him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stuck in his feels, let's stop Breaks down the door of his rock band neighbors, plays the guitar over them, Breaks it and promises to replace the squire and the door.
[SPEAKER_02]: The front man chases him down and invites him back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved the bitchy book store employees.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like how they were, yeah, just, um, I don't, yeah, I don't like know that much about the K.B.
[SPEAKER_01]: Kwau accent, but it was just really funny to hear the way that they speak French.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very, like, I forget what they were saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're the Kara Soyboy in the corner.
[SPEAKER_02]: Many Jordan to write them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so we need Jordan to Jordan should be watching this show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you watching Jordan?
[SPEAKER_02]: 12 men are not there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I mean, I first of all, we're getting our 1-minor, so we wanted, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is, uh, no thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so if you want to be a member, we'll build two.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love how he's like trying to be polite, but he just can't handle it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's, I mean, she's lucky that her head's still on her shoulders after the thing she just said about him to his face.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And can we also appreciate that let's start, but Halloween candy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, and also it was all the trick of treaters to be fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were all children of color, but they were all different.
[SPEAKER_01]: They were like, our mind, Louis, and Claudia, and none of them were the stats.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that had to hurt.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the whole exchange, one of my favorites, was your camera is not period correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have peanut allergy, well, allergies are delusional.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right the way in the bookstore, just the, did you know that actually it was a reference to a real fan who went and found the painting in the Louvre that they said was our mom in the show and taking a picture with it and they recreated it for that scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the photo she showed to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, of course, let's talk against his book.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's already writing over all the pages.
[SPEAKER_01]: Never fucking happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, also like, did you see the amount of tabs he had?
[SPEAKER_02]: He went to staples, like, let's not walk into staples and said, I need to rage through this with organizing tabs and a Sharpie.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to be fair, like, I don't know what Louis was thinking.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's known for a month.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the stat was going to find out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: How did he think this was going to go down?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Louis has ever been very good at taking decisive action.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like he couldn't let go of his family.
[SPEAKER_02]: he couldn't, you know, let go of Claudia when she wanted to be free.
[SPEAKER_02]: He just, he's never been good at taking the same action.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's even, like, kind of forced by Claudia to try to kill a start back in season one.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just don't, he's always been really wishy and he hates confrontation.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, he does tease the start about the fact that let's start moving to Montreal because the last thing he said about New Orleans is I am she and she is mean so he quotes back to him about Montreal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am he and he's me.
[SPEAKER_01]: He says less bang a chair.
[SPEAKER_01]: So is that let's start taking decisive action or will start running away?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I meant Louis is bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's like, I want Louie.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to turn him and he's going to be mine.
[SPEAKER_02]: He does assault Louie pretty swiftly when he brings him up into the air.
[SPEAKER_02]: He saves Louie what he needs to.
[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't hesitate like our mom did.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the sad does make take decisive action.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the difference is he takes decisive action.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not consistent in it, but he's decisive when he is in the moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's he's rash, you know, he's he's reactionary or as I've read it or we're saying reactionary with the intention to be incendiary.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying it's better or worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: The way he is compared to the people have their issues, like the fact that he bursts into the room and steps and smashes a guitar.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I have a small guitar player detail, a square is one of the cheapest electric guitars you can buy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a basically a budget fender.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, sorry about the squire.
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[SPEAKER_02]: they seem to be doing better by by the time that they're on tour.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think it makes sense the way this does it versus the book to have the tour after finding out about the book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like it is part of that reaction everything rather than him being on tour when he finds out about the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did not get up to that point in the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: So okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's an interesting change you have there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I want to ask you, you know, we all have cell phones and, uh, I think that we all are convinced that they're listening to us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you notice it right after Louie says, well, let's not, I'm sorry, let's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be on stage and I'm going to cover it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be on stage, not going to cover it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be on stage, not going to cover it, I'll be on stage, not going to cover it, I'll be on stage, not going to cover it, I'll be on stage, not going to cover it, I'll be on stage, not going to cover it, I'll be on stage, not going to cover it, I'll be on stage, not going to cover it, not going to cover it, not going to cover it, not going to cover it, not going to cover it, not going to cover it, not going to cover it, not going to cover it, not going to cover
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it's, yeah, he definitely has like some AI listening in.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I wonder, I wonder if that's supposed to be the general like Ha Ha, our divisor always listening to us, or if this is like someone surveillance will stop.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure the telemaska is, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but they're sending him Beyonce notifications?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I'm sure maybe it's just a remind us in general.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's always being surveilled.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it could be he does say like it's hard Concealing that you're a god right with ccttv ccttttv that I'm adding a million letters to Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted to flag that
[SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering, like, okay, so we'll talk about baby janks in a moment, but at another point, like the beginning of the episode, the stop walks by with what looks like some drained groupie and just hands are off.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, are there just regular people dropping dead because it does seem like that one was a legal problem and why they hired Yarda.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right, to be a deeply.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think this is the first time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we'll get to it a minute.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Baby Janks, which is what a name.
[SPEAKER_02]: Baby Janks is the first one that he really like attacked in the crowd.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, where is something like he killed some woman's husband or something because Kristi and said the wife, the wife is getting like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, by the way, uh, the front man, did you notice the actor?
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you watched Shits Creek?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's, uh, he was, um, Dan Levy's partner, husband eventually.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does look familiar.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he is an actual Canadian singer songwriter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's Larry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Larry from Satan's night out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, the guitar player that he almost kills in the middle of the show because he won't play the tambourine Which yeah, he had a beard and he didn't have one of the shit's creaking and I was like wait is that Funny like I this is the moment where I go I would never recognize Superman
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, yeah, I didn't recognize him at all.
[SPEAKER_01]: But he had Larry, I thought he was funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we've Larry, he's his little brother, Alex, who shreds the guitar.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like such a true stereotype that I happen to know of in my life where there's so many bands are this group of people who know each other and somebody's little brother that for some reason can just shred a guitar.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a young meal from Scott Pilgrim, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly, there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I definitely know a couple of bands that were exactly like that growing up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I've been in those bands, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, just, yeah, we always have somebody's a little brother as a drummer, and you just need a drummer and you're like, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'd sell a mandor and then TC, did you get to the part of the book?
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know what TC stands for?
[SPEAKER_01]: The drummer's name?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't think I do.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I didn't get to the band at all in the book.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough, cookie.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love that she was, what was it?
[SPEAKER_02]: The, the, would be bright of all these widowed bands or something like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so poetic with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get back to the tour.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alicia, leave us back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lestat wants to rewrite the book, but Daniel is taking his documentary to Ken and to slap Chris Rock and Strokes Oscar, other vampires debate Lestat's conduct while Lestat continues to ask Twa to come to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: As Lestat's show, he gets angry, he gets angry, he gets a guitar player, but has a nervous breakdown when he realizes that he was the adequate one, holding them back with black licorice.
[SPEAKER_01]: confronted by his pasty feeds on a woman in the crowd who is high on MDMA and LSD, nearly killing her and drugging himself in the process.
[SPEAKER_01]: While babyjanks dot is dying, let's dot envisions her spirit predicting the deaths of him in those around him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll say, like the whole, um, the whole ghost babyjanks thing,
[SPEAKER_01]: there's not a ghost thing with that character.
[SPEAKER_01]: She is a character from from Queen of the Demt, the third book, but she she does not seem as a ghost.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll talk about her more in the other section, but she but let's not does start to see ghosts in the fourth book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she it could be genuinely it could be him hallucinating or it could be a genuine ghost.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he does say at some point in this episode, I don't remember when, but he says I had seen my first spirit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's implying in the narration that this happens again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although in the book, there is a difference between ghosts and spirits, but I don't know that it's too confusing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that they'll make that difference for the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that's confusing me, just hearing about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't do that here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's stop is neither ghost nor spirit.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is scalpel.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's scalpel.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is the scalpel.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he asks, rock and roll.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want a fuck?
[SPEAKER_02]: And rock and roll says, hell, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's a great, she's also got that poetic, you know, on a lot of drugs and it's making her, because you know, some one thing the drugs do do is that they make your brain fire more certain and into they create like the neurons fire more so they're creating novel connections, so you can have like creative quick-witted responses or this is also the whoa effects.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, it's, uh, I mean, I think the start is learning to, um, is learning a lot of things about himself.
[SPEAKER_02]: And part of that is, uh, he feels bad sometimes about killing people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: He had his, like, tell us where I found the problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's me moments and hit his musical flow, state, seeing
[SPEAKER_01]: Louis was definitely in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Magnus, his maker was definitely in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see more from him this season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we got a glimpse of his 19th century dirt map.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something from the era of the French Revolution, I'll bring that up with a book section kissing his mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'm excited to see how we get through.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like this, this episode was really great as it's own, but it was also kind of just a teaser for the rest of the season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the people that we know are showing up and also the whole thing like so we heard some vampires speaking English, Farsi, Spanish, and Japanese arguing about whether Listat's music is good.
[SPEAKER_01]: They should make more vampires because there's that whole great conversion thing that's been set up before, whether they want to turn humans in the vamps or kill Listat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I just say the great conversion seems like a terrible idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, if you're just getting rid of all the food.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, but it involves, there's farms, of course, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: As long as it's, you know, as long as you're free-range humans.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, it's creating more of an overclass and underclass I suppose.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they'll have vampire portlandian, they'll be like, and, and, and, and, and, and it's local?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, is I wonder if this is so baby janks the spirit or whatever we're calling her.
[SPEAKER_01]: She says they're coming.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to tell you themselves and let's not say who's they who's they.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, does this have to do with the other vampires talking about him or?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That could be, or is it more spirits coming?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this a, I wanted him to go at one point, like, is this a Christmas caro?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're doing, we're doing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got a schedule here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Will it be over seven nights seven seven seven dates on their 54 city tour?
[SPEAKER_01]: I was mad at her though that she said Daniel dies bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: What are you talking about Daniel dies bad?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he dies bad the way she said it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no I love that she called him out for 265 years of repetitive habits
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she's getting married in a week for read brings her back from the dead, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she's getting married in a week.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so I'll never forget, let's not though.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's one of the beautiful, unwell forever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, gosh.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so much here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, this is all just for shadowing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what else to do with this, but we'll see what happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get to a vampire fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, BB Janks gushes about Lestat to camera.
[SPEAKER_02]: The vampire gives us a lesson in vampire anatomy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Apparently vampires pee bloodstained urine, and hate eco-friendly urinals.
[SPEAKER_02]: Lestat is interrupted from his text with twa by Tim and Russ members of the Detroit Fangang, which meets in a house past Breitmore.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't write more I believe was the site of Barbarian, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't think about that until I saw it in the notes here, but yeah, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: They invite him to join them at the house, but he'd belitely declines.
[SPEAKER_02]: The stock takes the elevator up with baby janks and consumates the parasocial relationship with some others.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sex, of course, is the fourth best I can vampire can do to avoid thinking about the past.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tim and Russ confront Lestat at the top with his violation of rule four, and Lestat is almost overpowered, but is assisted by Daniel and the mystery vampire DJ from, I can never say the French version.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even write it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Teatro de Rabier.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so now we have we were wondering in the clip why he was talking about a garot wielding Coven and we I think like a lot of us were thinking of the May fair witches, but no this was the garot wielding Coven that tried to de-decapitate him with a garot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm Uh, I mean, first of all, I love watching Daniel fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I just say that like we finally get to see Daniel be all
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this guy Eric but goes in as it is 70s and he's like, I am just playing vampires and I love that form
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I loved that apparently, I guess I saw an interview that there was going to be a version where Daniel was just like looking at pictures of his daughter on the tour bus and he's like, no, come on, Daniel's got to fight the vampire DJ that's Sam that's Sam yeah Sam Barclay
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Sam Barclays.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's funny because at the end of the last season, we'll first, we got a hint that he's Irish, and we got a hint that he might be Samuel Beckett of waiting for Gadoe, because he had the waiting for Gadoe play, that he was basically that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then at the end, well, they said two things.
[SPEAKER_01]: One is that he was a telemaska agent, which was again brought up here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And two, that he,
[SPEAKER_02]: Louie says like a throwaway thing like yeah, he became a famous DJ who performs in a helmet and everyone's like wait, is he Doved punk Right or is he I was thinking of dead mounts actually okay, okay, because dead mounts is a solo DJ It does that Yeah Anyway Fund to have that call back he was the one who provided the script wasn't he he was the one who provided the script that
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, true, true, true, because he was a telemaster agent.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right, I love the idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they had to sex in the elevator with even pulling the bell hop into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You referred to that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then he says, I was just singing my songs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fucking my food and defending myself from the vibrant life choices I had made.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what a way to editorialize the shit show of your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: that's who it's team attacked him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean he has so many great well-liners in this like first of all in the beginning he's like my vodka bottle and yes it is a vodka bottle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ man that's a little little bit of it's unpleasant.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the he's like oh I should have gotten off of the seventh floor when I got off.
[SPEAKER_02]: But my favorite is, and I think I said this to you before we sort of recording so I'll say it again, when Russ, I think, says, we are the children of the darkness report.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's not just go, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus fucking Christ, because he's already destroyed those people, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: We know that from season two, we saw that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, but so two questions about this is like do or just one question I suppose with two possible answers do they know about this this our Monk cult it's funny they had like our Monk told the truth it was very Thanos is right energy, but do they know about this from the book?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or do they know about it from other vampires because something tells me that they just like read the book and decided to make that their entire personality.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they did.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think these are the Harry Potter readers of the Harry Potter Superfans of our mod, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I, well, so, because we know from season two that the listot came upon Arman with the children of the dark, and was like, no, we're doing plays now.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then that was the end of the children of the darkness.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so this idea of them being reborn was so funny to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's, I, we knew it would be funny to me, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why looked up?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I thought they were called the Children of Satan.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they are in the book, but then I don't know that they've,
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they name them in the show or not, I don't remember, but anyway, yeah, they showed him.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's definitely what they're talking about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they call themselves the fangang.
[SPEAKER_01]: We heard, uh, we heard a reference to that in season one when Claudia went off and met Bruce and named him killer in Queen of the dam.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a member of the fangang.
[SPEAKER_02]: interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good connections.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll go deeper into books after the credits.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know the reference.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll go into deeper after the credits, but just want to flag for for people is that he keeps mentioning that he has the Queen's blood in him.
[SPEAKER_01]: He mentions it twice in this episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is, I think we can just say that's the Queen of the Damned, the character played by Elia in the Queen of the Damned.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's a big deal, he did say her name last season, Akasha, so it's a big deal that he has her blood in him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I for one need to practice my pelvic floor strength because I can't compete with Russ.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm kind of glad.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that people will object or have already objected to them talking about like the toilet habits of vampires, but you know, I'm glad to know they don't pee as often so that when they do it just goes on a lot and then they have to shorten it away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they all brought a glass of shard nae was funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other funny thing was when Tim was being disrespectful about the pronouns of Russ and Lestako's, it's polite, like silence at a urinal.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there are a lot of people in the fandom who are upset about the dismissiveness about pronouns and also about listot saying, you know, making them make things great again, reference.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, like, I think that actually when I re-watched it, that listot was being much more respectful than Tim there.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think listot is a respectful person, or vampire.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had the same thought.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you'll recall after that initial, and I noticed as after the initial, you know, respecting of the day, let's thought goes back to she and his head.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, that might not be respectful, but I think that's entirely in the sense character of like, I don't give a fuck once you're out of my sight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't think he's, um, I mean, I think, you know, there's different layers of of being big at it, and I don't think like he holds it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think when he told us, I, you know, respect your pelvic floor, he meant it, you know, and that has whatever only reason listot hates russes because russ keeps telling listot that long face sucks.
[SPEAKER_01]: So though they said that the other two songs are good.
[SPEAKER_01]: So okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: They said it was a, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_02]: The feel song, but I don't know the name.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what it doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like you know, there's song, let's go.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to trash us whole up anyway, because he's he's now looking at what what's truly in his soul.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like I love their first exchange that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Detroit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Nice city.
[SPEAKER_01]: Your song sucks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the feedback and it is performing on stage.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, my.
[SPEAKER_01]: Something that may probably gave me the biggest belly laugh.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so stupid is when the drugs start hitting him hard at the end of this bathroom scene.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, just like, no, I don't want to come to Brightmore and meet your little vamp crew.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, obligations I'm afraid.
[SPEAKER_01]: But please do send my most sincere Bungior to your BrightMorish Coven.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then his face starts morphing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he just goes, lil' lag.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so stupid, it's so stupid and of course in the fight we get the wolf mention I was so happy because I love that stuff in the box I won't spoil that but he even says he's like he's like I let it to find me for a time Like yeah, they're they're so Readers too, right like they're the book reader is going like yeah, okay, that was a big scene and we'll give it to you but like
[SPEAKER_01]: you know this isn't going to be him now you're in for a treat this is new right right yeah that's just one part of his story and it's because i think because the book starts there that it's really vivid in people's minds you know that's one of the very first things yeah but we're well i mean it's in the trailer so yeah so and it's in one of the flashes here too i believe so uh let's not reveal do you want to talk about that
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's stop births into the upstairs party, killing one of the Detroit vampires.
[SPEAKER_01]: His band realizes he's an actual vampire and Daniel asks about his daughter again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's stop flies out the window and checks into a motel while when he's desperate over the toilet, his twa finally arrives.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Gabriella, his fledgling, lover, and mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's in Detroit because her maker cult.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny because I, again, like this show is so genius in the way it plays with the power social relationship and in plays with these book fandom people and you know, the way it says like, well, I know it's common knowledge now and I'm, I'm, I'm
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's just funny because everyone's like, you know, these all all the book readers and you know, I'm a book reader for a lot of shows.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not mine, but all the book readers are going like, well, you'll see we're getting real game of thronesy with it and like, of course now episode one.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, yeah, now I fucked my mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are like, it's just right there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you, I mean, I know, so I kind of had a ruin for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw that someone wrote on Blue Sky or something before I got to chance to watch the episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I thought it was going to be Louis, and then as soon as I saw them watch, while thing, and like, oh, it's his mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I knew it was his mom right away.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, that's Gabriella.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's Gabriella.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he said, my share, the female.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's still a lot of people were like, oh, maybe he just crawls in Louis by the female affection in her.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, no, it's a little pan up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mom!
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's interesting relationship because, yes, she is his mother, but he's also her sire, but I would say still she's always, I think she always has that per hand personally.
[SPEAKER_02]: Their relationship in the book is really interesting to me, you know, I don't like the sexual aspect of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's not really as explicit in the books, right, but it seems like they're making a very explicit here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the vampires, they can't physically have sex for most of the books until Dr. Fureed intervenes later, but... What?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just don't worry about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they have an erotic relationship, for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: for sure and but but I just mean a side from that I think that they have a very interesting dynamic yeah will be and that's why I'm glad that they didn't change it even though it's gross because there is an interesting story to tell here yeah
[SPEAKER_01]: And they did, like, because they did, for example, Louie and Claudia are implied to have the romantic relationship in the book, and they just were like, nah, just none of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that was the right decision to make, because what does that really add?
[SPEAKER_01]: But here, I mean, this is a show about centuries of trauma and what kind of character it's that creates.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Louis liked to for a fuller figure, so you couldn't do the quality of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that was Lassat who said that anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the studs of that, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that was cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was really cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, what he said that our blue is like, well, stop he's like, cut to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: So mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So mad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I know there are people who are like, oh, I didn't Louis and the stock get back together.
[SPEAKER_01]: And like it's been two and a half years since they finally made up after decades of like fallout because let's stop helped kill their daughter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And whatever, mitigating things he did, he did do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also like Louis is a serial monogamous that needs to break that habit because it's just not healthy for him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but again, so let's stop is like once again the
[SPEAKER_02]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although I think our mom had a serial monogamy problem too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, where was our mom in this episode?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he was in the intro, but that was it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like he's just being another, he's being a murder Grimm one again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, I mean,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm biting my tongue about so I'll stop.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's probably on edge trying to pick out all the, like, your he needs to restart the children of the night or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Truth in of the darkness.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's getting, oh, can you make this row a little darker?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I think he's on the next boyfriend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I, okay, every interview with the vampire podcast needs and our mom defender, and I'm happy to be their mom topologist here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good, because I will not be.
[SPEAKER_02]: You will never make me defend her mom, not a single second.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, all right, happy to take that role.
[SPEAKER_02]: All righty, well, what else we got here?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did the episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, we have a book spoilers to talk about after the break.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's just close out here for the episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't have any feedback this week, but feel free to write in to ask Dan at thelorhounds.com where Daniel Malloy will send us your feedback.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, for now, let's just talk quickly about what we are doing on the network and then again after the credits we will be talking about book spoilers on the made feed house of the dragon you're going to be hosting the first few episodes with John and then David's going to take back over with John and that way you can give your whole self to list out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, until July 3rd, which I still will be giving my whole stuff to the stop, but I will also start in July 3rd, silos season 3 begins.
[SPEAKER_02]: The listot is offended.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we have a, I'm thinking like, what would a, a silo vampires crossover?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we nobody wants to see that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I accept me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of want to see it, but no.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's workshop it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's work straight in with your ideas, folks.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... we got plenty of other stuff going on with we're going to have um... eleven seas uh... covering hard-boiled the night ninety two unlimited ammo shooter you know gun food movie has they called them so super cast and patreon subscribers get that get the saakey episode we're about to do and get the sheep uh... detectives episode we just did and i think john and david are doing in is god is what you watch in also for subscribers
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool, but also public feed.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the public feed, there is, yeah, it's busy week.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have also David's dropping and into the West conversation about the conversation, the movie from the 70s.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Jean and I are doing our spider noir one shot this weekend, which I was a big fan of that show.
[SPEAKER_01]: And next week David and I are talking disclosure day, and there's going to be a widow's base season wrap up as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, let me say to talk about widow's bay, it's been the season has been so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, definitely up at the top of the rankings with the Vampireless Dot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: And radio actor Ramlings I believe is done with the boys now not sure what they're doing next, but they will be joining me with the Cosmere in August.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're gonna be starting Cosmere Corner, I believe July 31st.
[SPEAKER_02]: So right, right before August.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, and uh, never run the music.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they just recently did an episode on the killers I was listening to.
[SPEAKER_02]: okay that was a lot of fun mail bag episode they did plenty of stuff over their music and psychology bunch of professors talking about nerd stuff which we like here you know it's a fun way yeah yeah and uh... properly howard still going in the newlywed season i keep thinking it's like the last episode but they're like no we have more movies
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think they had a lot of movies as season.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, Walsh has, of course, just dropped the breakdown of the second silo season three trailer, so that's out in the feed now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really excited for silo season three.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's going to be, it's going to be a very different season.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think based on the books, yeah, and it's going to be fun to have that shake up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, Akasha wants 90% of all men dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's Akasha's doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's, yeah, becomes a thing when she, so I presume this season, yeah, Ghost is upset about it too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, buddy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she wakes, she's met, let's stop before and heard him play his violin.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she wakes up because she like hears him, I don't know, on like TV or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she just is so drawn to his music.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she starts genociding vampires and other people and it's a big problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's has a lot of problematic ideas about killing everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's very nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: She seems so that that seemed pretty bad all that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: None of what you said sounds good.
[SPEAKER_01]: but we have it's rewatching was fun to like we have gotten they've been layering the Easter eggs mentioning them like so in season one Louie said they're talking about going to Paris and Louie's like let's go to Greece what's we'll let's see what's in Greece and let's dot says they who must be kept which is what they call Akasha and her husband ankle
[SPEAKER_01]: And then in season two there's a few mentions to him saying like he is the blood of Akasha basically so it makes him less killable than others and now that's being brought up again.
[SPEAKER_02]: So is that why he can fly to or is that just Magnus being kind of powerful?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I mean, so he's he's had a lot of premo blood to be honest, but a cautious is the best he's had so far since we're in full books boilers territory I wonder if the book five involves him drinking Jesus as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just so I don't know All right, and right how far they're gonna go with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I do wonder, like, as far as where they're going to end the season, because it feels like this auction, where they're talking about, you know, all this death and destruction, it feels like that takes place after Queen of the Damned, which would be season four.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, based on what you're saying, it sounds like a kosher has to wake up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's interesting to see him play the violin, too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I wonder if that's going to wake Kasha up and also the violin, of course, is in reference to Nikki who were definitely, we saw Nikki in season two in the flashbacks with Lestat and the Tatsura de Vompeer, but we know we're gonna see more of him this season as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lestat's first love other than his mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's in the trailers, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and, yeah, we, we know we have, uh, so, okay, so baby janks, she's another character from Queen of the Damned, and you know who turns, she becomes a vampire in the books.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, that doesn't seem to have happened, yeah, but you know who turns her into a vampire in the books is killer, aka Bruce.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, so I wonder, yeah, if she's going to become a vampire now, like she's like, I'm getting married in a week.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, oh God, this is like when a police agent in an action movie says I'm retiring in two weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_01]: So the one other character, so there is going to be a special devil's minion corner in a moment.
[SPEAKER_01]: One other character, I wanted to raise a flag about, well, two other, sorry, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a big one here that you brought up earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: But one of them is the doctor freed.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a character that shows up a lot later in the books.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he does weird experiments that lead to let's stop having a human child.
[SPEAKER_01]: So... Oh.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's definitely on something that would happen this season or next, but that's like the fact they've been seeding him in for so long makes me feel like they're going down that road.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what's yeah, but you were going to say something about Ragland James.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just I, you told me what happened to him in the books and I wonder if they're leading to that, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if that's the list.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was wondering, too, is so for anyone who doesn't know, Ragland James is, he's worked for the telemaska in the past in the books in the show, he's still working for the telemaska, but he got kicked out of the telemaska in the books because he would steal too much and he would, he would just cause a lot of problems.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he has this special power where he can body swap with people.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, could that have been the start in his body and he's like outrunning around in the thoughts body or something?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that can very much be true.
[SPEAKER_02]: He seemed to be delighted by this whole thing, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if let's stop wanting to do it, but you know, maybe he made him a deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, he's like, uh, just body swaps, swaps me for a little while.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, so notice like when the auctioneer is said narrated by the vampire list on himself, he gave like a surprise to look.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wonder if I don't know if he body swaps with him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the show lore is going to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can he like remember list thoughts memories?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to we're going to have to save ourselves for that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's one other thing I wanted to make a regular corner of what do we decide to name by the way this special spoiler section to read the site you did say inside the coffin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that that works.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is our spoiler section.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's stick with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be confident about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Unlike let's be a list.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not Lou.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's inside the coffin.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fuck you.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_01]: How much do you know about Devil's Minion?
[SPEAKER_02]: I As a ship.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't know at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I click the night island spin off thing that you Linked and then told me a little bit of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So basically, this is also from Queen of the Damned, but it's already been playing out partially in the show so far.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it is like the after-lustot in Louis, the second most popular pairing in this universe is Armand and Daniel.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Daniel is the Devil's minion of this relationship.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so this...
[SPEAKER_01]: starts in Queen of the Damned, and basically after interview with the Vampire, Daniel goes off to go looking for Lestat to get his side the story, but Lestat's out and about and has started his, you know, whole, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't find him basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: He finds, oh no, maybe Lestat was in the ground at that time.
[SPEAKER_01]: So he finds our mom instead, and they start this really toxic relationship.
[SPEAKER_01]: vacation paradise basically off of the island off of the coast of Florida called night island and they're they've been planning a spin off of about this for years that it's apparently it got a positive update just like this week so it's happening it's going to be six mini episodes and yeah we'll see what it is from there but anyway so
[SPEAKER_01]: we've already seen that Armand was at the initial interview with Daniel.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen that he was interested in Daniel like in the books.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's interested in Daniel because he wants to learn about the new age, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in here in the show, he was interested in Daniel like, tell me why you're an interesting boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why does my boyfriend more interested in you and calling me
[SPEAKER_01]: he's already turned Daniel and that's something that happens like obviously they're doing things out of order in their own way but in the books that's something that happens after they've been together for years so the question is where they together in the past for a while where they together in the present for a while like leading up to him turning him both
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a theory that people have, you know, Armand keeps he is all these different A names he goes by Arun or Andre in the novel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Adeu Armand could Alice be another one of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of people who think that maybe Daniel's first wife Alice was actually Armand, but Daniel has been like, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: And like that's that's a wild one because Daniel has daughters, but then I'm like if not that why not it's so in the books Daniel leaves her mom for a while and is with marius
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so that could be his second wife.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that's that's like the the biggest stretch.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is these are theories that are going around.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so this is definitely stuff that's I'm going to be watching as the season goes on.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like they've thrown a lot of this off just with the age issue of like dang old age before getting turned.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but that's not going to stop the story.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're mortals that it'll be fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm in ship them devil's men in the Omegaverse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know you'll have to those who know with the Omegaverse is let us know what their relationship dynamic is.
[SPEAKER_02]: If Sam read his listening, please write in with your thoughts on those.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this was a fun initial inside the
[SPEAKER_02]: and i'm excited to see what episode two brings now i can actually watch it which is very exciting yes yeah and we're going to get that one out um when it like shortly after the episodes dropped see you on the next tour stop uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh