WEBVTT 00:03.243 --> 00:07.901 [SPEAKER_03]: This show is brought to you by TheMakery, the podcast network for Makers. 00:16.608 --> 00:17.109 [SPEAKER_03]: Are you ready? 00:17.469 --> 00:18.029 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm ready. 00:18.270 --> 00:18.870 [SPEAKER_03]: Guys! 00:20.292 --> 00:20.993 [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to Knife Talk. 00:21.013 --> 00:24.516 [SPEAKER_03]: This is a podcast for Knife Maker's Knife deduciest DIYers. 00:25.317 --> 00:30.062 [SPEAKER_03]: Anybody who has any interest in knives, Knife making, foraging, blacksmithing blades, smithing, all that stuff. 00:30.162 --> 00:33.145 [SPEAKER_03]: And just fool around, fool around. 00:33.645 --> 00:33.926 [SPEAKER_03]: There's... 00:34.470 --> 00:44.014 [SPEAKER_03]: 60% knives and 40% fuller-round or 40% fuller, 40% knife-making, 60% fuller-round. 00:44.554 --> 00:46.595 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what, who knows what's going to happen today? 00:47.095 --> 00:48.396 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm Jeff Fader, Fader Knives. 00:48.916 --> 00:53.558 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm here with the great, my friend, Merecho Lamassi, Moassi Fire Arts. 00:54.158 --> 01:01.321 [SPEAKER_03]: And we had a, and Craig Lockwood, who was messaging me, he's in a hotel room, and he's got terrible service. 01:01.361 --> 01:02.762 [SPEAKER_03]: So he's going to sit it out this week. 01:03.242 --> 01:06.305 [SPEAKER_03]: And he promises to be so funny next week. 01:06.345 --> 01:09.729 [SPEAKER_03]: So we're going to expect he's saying I'm going to be extra funny next week. 01:09.749 --> 01:12.371 [SPEAKER_03]: So he's been holding back on you all. 01:12.652 --> 01:14.994 [SPEAKER_03]: He gave him back on you know. 01:15.334 --> 01:18.698 [SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if he's back in that hotel room when buddy was being born. 01:19.438 --> 01:21.159 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just fucking brothel behind them. 01:21.220 --> 01:22.340 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I started with? 01:22.721 --> 01:31.347 [SPEAKER_03]: We have got to talk about this, this is hilarious, because when we, you and I first started with knife talk, I don't think his daughters were born. 01:31.687 --> 01:31.907 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 01:32.188 --> 01:32.408 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 01:32.888 --> 01:41.795 [SPEAKER_03]: And then we ended up his wife gave birth to twins, and you and I interviewed a Jared Thatcher. 01:42.335 --> 01:42.615 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 01:42.655 --> 01:51.598 [SPEAKER_03]: Jared Thatcher and Jared Thatcher, Boothill Blades, was sitting in a truck and stealing Wi-Fi from like a Dunkin doughnuts. 01:51.778 --> 01:52.739 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a Starbucks system. 01:52.759 --> 01:54.399 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, something like that. 01:54.419 --> 02:00.421 [SPEAKER_03]: And he had a microphone that is rubbing on his beard and meanwhile I was sitting in a closet. 02:00.461 --> 02:02.022 [SPEAKER_03]: I was sitting in a closet. 02:02.182 --> 02:05.183 [SPEAKER_03]: I was sitting in a closet when I started podcasting to closet. 02:05.963 --> 02:08.945 [SPEAKER_03]: And Craig's, you know, daughter's daughter's were being born. 02:09.325 --> 02:15.948 [SPEAKER_03]: And then a few years ago, Craig's son was born while we're on the podcast, not during the podcast. 02:15.968 --> 02:24.432 [SPEAKER_03]: But, and the story he told of the fact that he ended up getting a hotel room turns out to be, it was a brothel, right? 02:24.892 --> 02:26.613 [SPEAKER_03]: Thanks to the host, thanks to the hospital. 02:27.473 --> 02:30.195 [SPEAKER_03]: You could rent the room by the, by the hour. 02:30.615 --> 02:30.855 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 02:31.962 --> 02:35.864 [SPEAKER_03]: So, we've had a lot of life changes here on the talk. 02:36.124 --> 02:39.066 [SPEAKER_03]: Number one, knife-related podcast, that's your investment plan, whether you like it or not. 02:39.406 --> 02:41.387 [SPEAKER_03]: The... RECO, how are you? 02:41.647 --> 02:42.328 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing all right. 02:42.648 --> 02:47.331 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting ready for, well, it last weekend was, uh, was it Memorial Day? 02:47.351 --> 02:48.151 [SPEAKER_03]: Memorial Day, yeah. 02:48.311 --> 02:50.993 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, uh, uh, it was a low key for me. 02:52.013 --> 02:53.994 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, had the kid on Saturday. 02:54.014 --> 03:03.661 [SPEAKER_02]: We had a really good day and cruise around and did a lot of fun things and including going to visit my buddy Tori Clonius. 03:03.741 --> 03:05.642 [SPEAKER_02]: He's gone stone creations over on Instagram. 03:05.802 --> 03:06.202 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah. 03:06.502 --> 03:06.763 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 03:06.983 --> 03:09.824 [SPEAKER_02]: He lives like 20 minutes away from me. 03:10.105 --> 03:10.465 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh well. 03:10.785 --> 03:12.146 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's got a couple kids. 03:12.906 --> 03:14.527 [SPEAKER_02]: My son's age or at least once. 03:15.168 --> 03:17.409 [SPEAKER_02]: My son's age and the other is a couple of years younger. 03:18.290 --> 03:24.754 [SPEAKER_02]: But when I hung out with him and his family, I just had like a nice Saturday afternoon hang out. 03:24.994 --> 03:26.615 [SPEAKER_02]: That's great and it was really good. 03:26.735 --> 03:31.418 [SPEAKER_02]: And like kid loves Victor loves going over there and hanging out with his kid Ace. 03:32.299 --> 03:52.079 [SPEAKER_02]: And they kind of all kinds of, they got a tree for it, they got a zip line, they got motor cycles, they got dune buggy, they got all kinds of shit, they got lots of dogs and my kid is dog obsessed and yeah, so it was just like he was in heaven basically and they had a good time and yeah, otherwise 03:55.022 --> 04:12.635 [SPEAKER_02]: It also had been up to just kind of getting ready like honestly recovering from the New Orleans trip But honestly, and then turning around and getting ready to go down the blade show And I'm gonna be teaching a couple classes down there One is Damascus appreciation the second is Damascus pattern flow. 04:12.675 --> 04:21.202 [SPEAKER_02]: So for the Damascus appreciation If you haven't signed up for it, please go check it out and sign up for it And it's I actually did a class similar to this last year. 04:21.222 --> 04:22.923 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember what I called it last year, but 04:23.463 --> 04:37.692 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, the goal of this class basically is to go through patterns, break them down, and kind of just help people both collectors and makers understand the kind of like the planning process and the energy and effort and forethought that goes into making Damascus. 04:38.412 --> 04:49.017 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I think I'm going to try, I think I got about an hour and a half, I'm going to try to graduate from the most basic patterns or I guess foundational patterns. 04:49.037 --> 04:50.017 [SPEAKER_02]: People don't like basic. 04:50.037 --> 04:50.977 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't call basic. 04:50.997 --> 04:51.518 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't like basic. 04:51.538 --> 04:52.618 [SPEAKER_03]: They don't like basic. 04:52.818 --> 04:54.479 [SPEAKER_02]: They're going to hurt somebody's feet. 04:54.519 --> 04:56.400 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, at least people aren't woke. 04:57.060 --> 04:59.141 [SPEAKER_02]: They don't call basic, big patterns. 04:59.561 --> 05:00.662 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no. 05:00.682 --> 05:01.302 [SPEAKER_03]: That's pushing. 05:01.862 --> 05:19.355 [SPEAKER_02]: basic is okay, but if you start saying like you know basic ass bitch pat that's some more offensive than just like, you know Well, yeah evolving all the way up to like uh, what was it the deal with the devil put pattern or Adio with the devil pattern that it did is a collaboration of my buddy Gabe Fletcher 05:20.135 --> 05:22.277 [SPEAKER_02]: Which was insanity. 05:22.817 --> 05:31.404 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, it was probably 30 different billets being Realt welded and re-welded together in combining and using math and all this shit. 05:31.965 --> 05:44.855 [SPEAKER_02]: Anyways Just to help like people to really like I said to especially collectors a better understand How much effort and energy goes into some of these patterns because some of these foundational patterns have been made for 05:45.893 --> 06:00.469 [SPEAKER_02]: honestly a couple thousand years and people are doing some really incredible stuff today that is sometimes struggles to get their appreciation that deserves a lot I think some people put the two pattern inside by side and they're like, yeah, they're the same. 06:02.170 --> 06:10.798 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's another word that you could use, the classics, the classics, it's like the hits, you know? 06:11.198 --> 06:16.442 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess I don't know, I guess they are still classic in a way that they still have thousands of years. 06:16.623 --> 06:18.044 [SPEAKER_02]: They have aesthetic appeal, but 06:19.505 --> 06:21.628 [SPEAKER_02]: There's still a basic, it's why. 06:21.648 --> 06:32.003 [SPEAKER_03]: So, the shit, all right, so you know what, here's what the problem is, the problem is is you're putting it into that old, basic, bitch situation, you feel that way, which you don't want them to think, you to think that way. 06:32.143 --> 06:34.587 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, you're saying it here in the fucking podcast. 06:35.528 --> 06:36.129 [SPEAKER_03]: hilarious. 06:36.689 --> 06:40.952 [SPEAKER_02]: So, and then the other glasses Damascus pattern flow. 06:41.693 --> 07:00.188 [SPEAKER_02]: So that's where I'm uh, help people to understand how to anticipate pattern expansion uh, which I think a lot of folks still struggle with in regards to like how thick do I cut my tile and how far do I stretch it out or how how little do I stretch out depending on like how you want it to present in the final piece. 07:01.228 --> 07:08.215 [SPEAKER_02]: talk about that as well as how to, um, yeah, influence that throw flow through different forging techniques. 07:09.096 --> 07:11.258 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, yeah, but it should be a good time. 07:11.338 --> 07:13.680 [SPEAKER_02]: Other than that, I'm just going to be cruising and hanging out. 07:14.161 --> 07:18.885 [SPEAKER_02]: We got a lot of friends that are going to be there, um, and I think it's going to be a really good time. 07:18.925 --> 07:24.350 [SPEAKER_02]: I look forward to catching up with folks and, and so if you see me, um, say what's up? 07:25.311 --> 07:28.414 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually going to be with Lawrence over at the Damestyle booth. 07:28.774 --> 07:29.855 [SPEAKER_03]: We need to talk all about that. 07:29.875 --> 07:31.256 [SPEAKER_03]: We have lots to get to on that. 07:31.296 --> 07:33.858 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we'll get it to that, I guess later then. 07:33.898 --> 07:36.380 [SPEAKER_03]: What days are your classes? 07:36.640 --> 07:38.342 [SPEAKER_02]: It's Friday and Saturday. 07:38.482 --> 07:40.463 [SPEAKER_02]: I do not recall exact times. 07:40.503 --> 07:41.424 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry to say. 07:42.185 --> 07:43.366 [SPEAKER_02]: They're in the afternoon. 07:43.386 --> 07:47.289 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I mean, I'm going to stake last year when I talk classes. 07:48.890 --> 07:51.371 [SPEAKER_02]: They did it in the morning and I was like, this is going to be great. 07:51.672 --> 07:54.453 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll just get it out of the way right at the start of the show. 07:54.873 --> 08:00.156 [SPEAKER_02]: The fucking problem is that I'm still on West Coast time and I'm on the East Coast and so. 08:01.537 --> 08:07.780 [SPEAKER_02]: And and so I'm going to bed at West Coast time midnight, which is three o'clock in the morning East Coast. 08:07.880 --> 08:11.702 [SPEAKER_02]: And then I got to get up and teach a fucking class four hours later. 08:12.143 --> 08:13.403 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not enough sleep. 08:14.004 --> 08:14.464 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you. 08:15.024 --> 08:16.425 [SPEAKER_02]: Crank, we're not cranky time. 08:16.505 --> 08:18.706 [SPEAKER_02]: I just told I'm not presenting my best. 08:19.207 --> 08:19.987 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's all cute. 08:20.147 --> 08:20.968 [SPEAKER_02]: It's all cute. 08:21.008 --> 08:23.089 [SPEAKER_02]: I think there's a lot of value that people got out of it. 08:23.169 --> 08:24.290 [SPEAKER_02]: I've got a lot of problems with that. 08:24.310 --> 08:24.970 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure, of course. 08:25.250 --> 08:26.331 [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, you're professional. 08:26.631 --> 08:39.379 [SPEAKER_02]: So I made a conscious effort to, you know, I wanted to bring that a game this year and not allow, I guess, lack of sleep to be consideration when it comes to how, how thorough I am or. 08:41.720 --> 08:46.442 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I present and so I tried to take that part of the equation out. 08:46.862 --> 08:48.082 [SPEAKER_02]: Will there be a question? 08:48.362 --> 08:49.323 [SPEAKER_03]: Will there be a question? 08:49.343 --> 08:51.123 [SPEAKER_03]: Will people be able to ask you questions? 08:51.283 --> 08:53.004 [SPEAKER_02]: There's always opportunity. 08:53.224 --> 08:55.145 [SPEAKER_02]: Always asking questions all the time. 08:55.505 --> 09:07.188 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're listening to this and you're going to take Maracco's classes, I demand that you start the question by saying, 09:09.800 --> 09:12.441 [SPEAKER_03]: I see that like that, so those are old hate cutie. 09:12.681 --> 09:15.022 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, man, don't say hate cutie down there. 09:15.342 --> 09:16.343 [SPEAKER_03]: You might have a problem. 09:16.843 --> 09:19.664 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, man, can I ask you a question? 09:20.024 --> 09:23.566 [SPEAKER_03]: It sounds great for somebody who's like, hey, cutie, I got a question. 09:24.026 --> 09:38.012 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, 09:38.232 --> 09:42.475 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it'd be underwhelming, but fine, fine. 09:42.975 --> 09:43.856 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I think it's great. 09:43.876 --> 09:47.559 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, you know, you, you and I first met a blade show years ago. 09:47.779 --> 09:48.119 [SPEAKER_03]: We do. 09:48.760 --> 09:50.601 [SPEAKER_03]: It's, uh, it's a fun time for sure. 09:50.641 --> 09:52.042 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a bigger today. 09:52.082 --> 09:52.863 [SPEAKER_03]: We should do a little. 09:53.543 --> 09:58.127 [SPEAKER_03]: figure today we could do a little every year we do a little blade show preview. 09:58.167 --> 10:03.751 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to be there this year, but I've got a good reason. 10:03.991 --> 10:05.192 [SPEAKER_03]: I've got a good reason. 10:05.612 --> 10:15.080 [SPEAKER_03]: But this particular, I'm like in shithouse territory right now because I'm so busy. 10:15.140 --> 10:15.440 [SPEAKER_03]: We've got 10:22.325 --> 10:31.472 [SPEAKER_03]: So like for me to come for me to go to Blade Show on Saturday and then just basically get off the plane, come home, get off the plane and just change gates, makes no sense to me. 10:31.532 --> 10:33.413 [SPEAKER_03]: So and the order to my wife. 10:33.473 --> 10:40.279 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm gonna, I have to say I can't make it this year, no, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, the case I got a nice message from, are being a Kyle Daily. 10:40.979 --> 10:43.322 [SPEAKER_03]: Definitely go visit Kyle Daily, Kyle Daily. 10:43.362 --> 10:48.068 [SPEAKER_03]: If you're a knife maker, if you go visit Kyle Daily, he has a lot of new things. 10:48.408 --> 10:50.090 [SPEAKER_03]: He just did something that's pretty cool. 10:50.691 --> 10:56.598 [SPEAKER_03]: He did a 3D printed gauge for your bandsaw for sizes of scales. 10:57.179 --> 11:03.224 [SPEAKER_03]: and it's specifically so you can put the fence up and it's the right size if you're cutting a block down to scales. 11:03.545 --> 11:04.526 [SPEAKER_03]: He's a smart guy. 11:05.006 --> 11:08.149 [SPEAKER_03]: All the jokes aside make a lot of jokes, but cod don't cry for a long time. 11:08.389 --> 11:08.569 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 11:08.649 --> 11:12.833 [SPEAKER_03]: He really does come up with a lot of really great little tricks and tips for the knife maker. 11:12.853 --> 11:21.200 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you go down and visit Kyle, tell him, I sent you, and tell him, tell him, tell him, Fader says you have something for me. 11:22.261 --> 11:44.152 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I want you to see Kyle Daley goes say Fader says you have something for me It's gonna be it's just say like that, but this particular pet this yeah, so I'm trying to get everything done before I leave Including a lot of orders and then a couple weeks ago We had a very fast pace order for some steak knives for this country club 11:44.552 --> 11:44.692 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 11:44.812 --> 11:54.139 [SPEAKER_03]: And as most knife makers know, sometimes you send out some packages expecting you get a message saying we receive them where we love them or we hate them or anything and normally you get nothing. 11:54.159 --> 11:54.679 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 11:54.739 --> 11:58.542 [SPEAKER_03]: So we, as you know, we sent a pile down there and we got nothing. 11:58.682 --> 12:02.025 [SPEAKER_03]: I got a message from UPS there was arrived and was signed for but that's about it. 12:02.705 --> 12:13.116 [SPEAKER_03]: So I got a message yesterday from Alice and saying they love the knives, it sent me a picture of the knives on the table setting and it looked great and they said that they made a mistake and they miscounted and they need 12 more. 12:13.757 --> 12:18.101 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm kind of been here at the shops since about 630 and I'm trying to like, 12:18.722 --> 12:23.823 [SPEAKER_03]: prepare to get to get 12 more made before I leave. 12:24.023 --> 12:34.206 [SPEAKER_03]: And then on top of that, another 10 knives I want to ship out of Saturday, Friday, Saturday, plus I'm doing three nix colors and 12:40.127 --> 13:00.363 [SPEAKER_03]: went to the eastern conference finals on a leaven game winning streak in playoff's bush and they are got to play the uh... Oklahoma City Thunder boo or to get hit or to play the spurs i have total respect the spurs i've been i have very little respect for the Oklahoma City Thunder but uh... that isn't because they used to be the sonnets 13:01.344 --> 13:03.605 [SPEAKER_03]: No, Oklahoma City weren't the Sonics. 13:04.185 --> 13:04.526 [SPEAKER_02]: They weren't? 13:04.886 --> 13:05.086 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 13:05.386 --> 13:06.687 [SPEAKER_03]: That's not the Sonics got by by somebody moving. 13:06.707 --> 13:18.692 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no 13:18.892 --> 13:26.296 [SPEAKER_03]: So like their main thing is they'll shoot but then they'll pretend like they got hit and they'll fall of the ground after your shot and they're at the free throw line. 13:26.316 --> 13:27.957 [SPEAKER_03]: They're a bunch of fucking suckers. 13:28.237 --> 13:29.097 [SPEAKER_03]: It sucks. 13:29.237 --> 13:29.998 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just like that. 13:30.018 --> 13:30.238 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 13:30.278 --> 13:37.101 [SPEAKER_03]: It's become a real problem to the point where they're calling SGA, their main guy, a foul merchant. 13:37.141 --> 13:41.284 [SPEAKER_03]: But I won't get it to people, we won't get too deep in the weeds that we get some businesses to get to. 13:41.704 --> 13:45.546 [SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, so I'm trying to like work, I'll try to get everything done before I leave. 13:47.827 --> 13:48.988 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it, I got nothing to do with it. 13:49.008 --> 13:49.708 [SPEAKER_03]: I got nothing to do with it. 13:49.989 --> 13:50.289 [SPEAKER_02]: Go ahead. 13:50.669 --> 14:01.597 [SPEAKER_02]: It says the Seattle Super Sonics were a professional basketball team, the NBA, that played for so many years and in 2008 franchise relocated to Oklahoma City and renamed Oklahoma City Thunder. 14:02.398 --> 14:03.899 [SPEAKER_03]: Wow, I didn't realize. 14:04.840 --> 14:05.540 [SPEAKER_03]: Didn't realize. 14:05.821 --> 14:07.242 [SPEAKER_03]: That's too bad for Seattle. 14:07.682 --> 14:08.142 [SPEAKER_03]: It is you. 14:08.282 --> 14:09.043 [SPEAKER_03]: No, you would know. 14:09.063 --> 14:09.984 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I don't know. 14:10.064 --> 14:13.426 [SPEAKER_02]: Actually, I don't know why I fucking know that because I don't 14:15.954 --> 14:18.055 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's see at the Portland Trailblazers, I mean, that's pretty good. 14:18.476 --> 14:19.596 [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, that's pointless. 14:20.077 --> 14:20.757 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's not see, I don't. 14:21.337 --> 14:22.218 [SPEAKER_02]: I was a little bit of a shit. 14:22.978 --> 14:24.619 [SPEAKER_02]: I enjoy watching a good contest. 14:24.640 --> 14:26.000 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't give a fuck, who's playing? 14:26.401 --> 14:27.842 [SPEAKER_02]: If it's boring, I'm turning it off. 14:27.982 --> 14:30.423 [SPEAKER_02]: If it's interesting and watch, that's it for a second. 14:30.683 --> 14:32.785 [SPEAKER_03]: If it's the spurs and the nicks, it'll be interesting. 14:32.805 --> 14:37.087 [SPEAKER_03]: If it's the thunder and the nicks, it's going to be like, 14:38.468 --> 14:41.630 [SPEAKER_03]: Every any time someone gets fouled that you got about five minutes. 14:41.650 --> 14:50.757 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't believe They didn't start calling like the Oklahoma City like a bunch of snowflakes and are having a thunderstorms or like other snowstorms They're the last year's champion. 14:50.777 --> 14:52.238 [SPEAKER_03]: Fuck the last year's champions. 14:52.258 --> 14:53.018 [SPEAKER_03]: This isn't bad. 14:53.038 --> 14:59.123 [SPEAKER_03]: That's true This is a bad talk Let's do a little bit of blade show preview. 14:59.363 --> 14:59.663 [SPEAKER_03]: Hold on. 14:59.683 --> 15:00.804 [SPEAKER_02]: I got one more question for you. 15:00.824 --> 15:01.424 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll head to you. 15:01.564 --> 15:01.805 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay 15:02.505 --> 15:05.146 [SPEAKER_02]: When you sent that box down there, who did it arrived to? 15:05.186 --> 15:06.767 [SPEAKER_02]: Did it go to the restaurant or to the owners? 15:06.787 --> 15:14.690 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you said you need to make 12 more and the first thought I had my head is, oh, the owner got the the received the knives and they like shit. 15:14.710 --> 15:17.512 [SPEAKER_02]: These are cool and they took a set of 12 for themselves. 15:18.892 --> 15:20.353 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, oh, we need 12 more. 15:20.373 --> 15:21.253 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't count it. 15:21.393 --> 15:22.354 [SPEAKER_03]: But then they would say it. 15:22.374 --> 15:25.215 [SPEAKER_03]: Then they would say, you only sent a certain amount. 15:25.255 --> 15:25.895 [SPEAKER_03]: You're 12. 15:25.955 --> 15:27.416 [SPEAKER_02]: No, not that they were stealing. 15:27.556 --> 15:28.957 [SPEAKER_03]: But just that I don't care. 15:28.977 --> 15:32.539 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if they're paying a pay for 12 more, I don't even fuck what they do with them. 15:32.559 --> 15:32.779 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 15:32.919 --> 15:34.660 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, I don't give shit. 15:34.680 --> 15:35.160 [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't matter. 15:35.180 --> 15:36.020 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, whatsoever. 15:36.060 --> 15:37.521 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, yeah, I'll make you 12 more. 15:37.541 --> 15:41.603 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to pay up, so I pay it up, so I can get a made. 15:41.903 --> 15:42.443 [SPEAKER_03]: No big deal. 15:42.483 --> 15:44.184 [SPEAKER_03]: But let's, let's, let's, we got the, the, the, the, the. 15:44.204 --> 15:45.845 [SPEAKER_03]: The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, 15:46.065 --> 15:53.368 [SPEAKER_03]: The Atlanta Blade shows coming up this as this is coming on a Monday and the Blade show starts on Friday, Saturday, Sunday. 15:53.828 --> 16:04.593 [SPEAKER_03]: It's at the Cobb Center in Atlanta, Cobb Gallery in Atlanta and there's going to be a lot of vendors there. 16:04.613 --> 16:07.354 [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of knife makers there, a lot of friends of ours there. 16:07.854 --> 16:21.124 [SPEAKER_03]: it's a great opportunity for you to meet people and you know buy some stuff, put your hands and your eyes on the things that you only see online and there's some behavior we should warn people about, right? 16:21.864 --> 16:22.144 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. 16:22.845 --> 16:26.247 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to see, let's start. 16:26.668 --> 16:27.448 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe positive. 16:28.769 --> 16:40.254 [SPEAKER_02]: I would, what are, uh, I want to say top five, but maybe at least top three tips that you got for people about going to the show and preparing for the show and going to the vendors while I kind of stuff. 16:40.834 --> 16:41.815 [SPEAKER_03]: Top three tips. 16:42.355 --> 16:43.475 [SPEAKER_03]: One is bring cash. 16:44.256 --> 16:44.696 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah. 16:44.916 --> 16:52.059 [SPEAKER_03]: because the Wi-Fi and the ticket in the card count can't readers and all that stuff. 16:52.519 --> 16:54.340 [SPEAKER_03]: That was a total bitch. 16:54.720 --> 16:58.501 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's the point, I'll never forget one year I was buying some handle scales from this guy. 16:59.142 --> 17:07.225 [SPEAKER_03]: And this guy had, he was at shorts on, he had knee braces on, he was like an older guy, look like he was just playing, you know, he was just teaching a tennis match. 17:07.245 --> 17:08.605 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what that was going to do. 17:08.625 --> 17:12.527 [SPEAKER_03]: One of those hats where his hair was sticking out of his hat, you know, those tennis hats. 17:12.927 --> 17:16.670 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I was printed by like kind of a $300 or the wood, which is like a visor. 17:17.371 --> 17:18.071 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, visor. 17:18.532 --> 17:22.195 [SPEAKER_03]: And he looked like, I mean, he looked like he would just, you know, like I said, just got off the court. 17:22.976 --> 17:28.420 [SPEAKER_03]: And he's trying to, he, I'm like, like $300 or the, you know, scales with your wood and stuff like that. 17:28.460 --> 17:29.901 [SPEAKER_03]: And you're the old $300. 17:30.222 --> 17:31.443 [SPEAKER_03]: That's really like not a lot. 17:31.663 --> 17:33.565 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, comes down to an unfortunate leads. 17:34.025 --> 17:36.507 [SPEAKER_03]: When you hold in your hands, you're just like, boy, this shirt doesn't look like $300. 17:37.908 --> 17:39.450 [SPEAKER_03]: But it's like five set of scales. 17:39.530 --> 17:54.328 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's like five set of scales and you're just like, this surely doesn't look like, yeah, this surely doesn't look like, yeah, so I remember he's walking around trying to swipe my card and he's holding the phone up trying to get some bars and 17:54.728 --> 18:04.499 [SPEAKER_03]: He's sweating profusely and he's freaking out because all of a sudden his wife is by the by the her table and she don't know what the hell is she's doing and he's like losing. 18:05.320 --> 18:06.862 [SPEAKER_03]: It was a freak out, frankly. 18:07.283 --> 18:10.927 [SPEAKER_03]: So I suggest bring some cash with you. 18:11.107 --> 18:11.828 [SPEAKER_03]: That's number one. 18:12.028 --> 18:12.449 [SPEAKER_02]: I agree. 18:12.669 --> 18:13.590 [SPEAKER_02]: I will add to that. 18:14.631 --> 18:21.899 [SPEAKER_02]: The cash one, it helps like you're saying, alleviate the whole fucking rigumoral headache. 18:21.919 --> 18:29.987 [SPEAKER_02]: Two, you can usually get some sort of discount by paying cash because there is nothing that needs to be reported. 18:30.028 --> 18:31.769 [SPEAKER_02]: There's like transaction fees. 18:32.510 --> 18:35.354 [SPEAKER_02]: often people will throw in a little extra. 18:35.394 --> 18:37.717 [SPEAKER_02]: This little extra that because you pain. 18:38.178 --> 18:44.747 [SPEAKER_02]: It's almost like you can haggle a little bit more with cash versus if you got a plastic card they're like, why would I haggle with you? 18:44.787 --> 18:45.588 [SPEAKER_02]: Just fucking painting. 18:45.848 --> 18:46.970 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 18:47.130 --> 18:48.472 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I agree. 18:48.652 --> 18:49.513 [SPEAKER_02]: Cash is a very good 18:49.613 --> 18:50.875 [SPEAKER_03]: cash is very good. 18:52.317 --> 18:56.822 [SPEAKER_03]: I would say, I think one of the best parts is you can actually physically. 18:57.203 --> 19:04.733 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, for wood, there's nothing better than getting going to blade show because you can actually see the handle material. 19:05.173 --> 19:19.506 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I have totally bought material back in the day from dudes who post a picture and then they change the the Saturation and when it arrives, I'm just like, bro, this is not what this is like. 19:19.626 --> 19:21.848 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, this is super duper different 19:21.948 --> 19:26.309 [SPEAKER_03]: This is super duper different and that's the other thing about like, you know, even hybrid handle material. 19:26.589 --> 19:27.490 [SPEAKER_03]: Just wouldn't general. 19:27.850 --> 19:33.272 [SPEAKER_03]: It's really hard to like gauge what it looks like unless you actually see it for yourself. 19:33.332 --> 19:35.432 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think that that's the number one thing. 19:35.452 --> 19:38.973 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that usually when I go, I'm going to bring in a backpack full of stuff. 19:39.414 --> 19:39.674 [SPEAKER_03]: Right. 19:39.754 --> 19:40.574 [SPEAKER_03]: So, um, 19:41.374 --> 19:49.777 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's also connecting to people that maybe you know or you kind of never met before. 19:49.837 --> 19:51.178 [SPEAKER_03]: That's always the most fun. 19:51.218 --> 19:55.619 [SPEAKER_03]: I remember for the first time meeting Josh Scott, who's going to be have a table there. 19:55.659 --> 19:56.700 [SPEAKER_03]: Go visit Josh Scott. 19:57.480 --> 20:02.062 [SPEAKER_03]: Tell him, and tell him, Jeff and Rereco said, I hear you have something for him. 20:03.923 --> 20:10.206 [SPEAKER_03]: That's that is Jeff and Reckless as you I think you have something for me So he's they said you have something for me. 20:10.226 --> 20:18.571 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what you're gonna be we're gonna be doing a lot of that today Okay, so Kyle daily a job coming from is this something as you heard somewhere They're gonna be funny. 20:18.611 --> 20:19.332 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it'd be funny. 20:19.352 --> 20:22.974 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it'd be funny to go up to them It'd be like hey, Jeff and breakfast that you have so before me. 20:23.354 --> 20:23.474 [UNKNOWN]: Okay 20:23.914 --> 20:47.373 [SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, so there's going to be a lot of people who haven't had tables before, like you know Josh is not had tables before he's going to have his production line there and they look really cool and it's going to be really cool to see, you know, people that you know have tables and knives by huge always is a really good job and our friends at Torrecker are going to be there and you know there's a lot of people who are going to be there who they're just good people. 20:47.813 --> 20:49.294 [SPEAKER_03]: So I think it's three right. 20:49.915 --> 20:50.575 [SPEAKER_03]: Three good tips. 20:50.715 --> 20:51.095 [SPEAKER_02]: That's three. 20:52.216 --> 20:52.717 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think? 20:53.797 --> 21:05.680 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I think if you're going to hold a table, make sure you got snacks and water available and make friends with your neighbors, uh, because you're not going to want to be behind your table whole goddamn time. 21:07.180 --> 21:08.061 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a night, it sucks. 21:08.481 --> 21:17.863 [SPEAKER_02]: So make friends with your neighbors so they can watch your table if you need to run to the restroom, go get some food or go, uh, walk around the show for a little bit. 21:18.810 --> 21:32.458 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and be respectful and offer the same if they do have for you because I've I've had be poor Like can you watch my table and they disappear for like four fucking hours like after about 30 to 40 minutes I don't give a shit anymore. 21:32.478 --> 21:36.380 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry Don't shake people's hands in the bathroom. 21:36.940 --> 21:41.122 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, oh, yeah Also now we're getting it to the dough. 21:41.202 --> 21:44.784 [SPEAKER_02]: It's really now we're getting to the dunks don't flip flops in the bathroom either 21:46.280 --> 21:48.761 [SPEAKER_02]: The bathrooms are horrendous. 21:50.102 --> 21:54.804 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't test the sharpness of anybody's knife on your body. 21:55.925 --> 22:00.147 [SPEAKER_02]: Have some business cards handy or have something like that, I don't know. 22:00.167 --> 22:01.608 [SPEAKER_02]: Just don't fuck it, yeah, don't. 22:02.368 --> 22:08.631 [SPEAKER_02]: Imagine that they can not only do all the work to make the fucking knife that they can also sharpen it, don't be a dick. 22:08.871 --> 22:11.113 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like testing a gun by putting it in your head. 22:12.413 --> 22:15.375 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like fucking worth it. 22:15.395 --> 22:16.456 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just saying work. 22:16.816 --> 22:17.176 [UNKNOWN]: Boom. 22:17.696 --> 22:19.898 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's like, it kind of the same thing, right? 22:20.018 --> 22:22.279 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like knives are meant to cut, right? 22:22.579 --> 22:25.021 [SPEAKER_03]: So why would you fucking test them on your body? 22:25.121 --> 22:25.981 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't you? 22:26.001 --> 22:26.342 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 22:26.382 --> 22:27.062 [SPEAKER_03]: We had a story. 22:27.122 --> 22:29.524 [SPEAKER_03]: What was that story that happened with our man Rick? 22:29.864 --> 22:30.484 [SPEAKER_02]: Rick Hall. 22:30.504 --> 22:30.724 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 22:30.744 --> 22:32.545 [SPEAKER_02]: Some ding dong was at his table. 22:32.605 --> 22:35.527 [SPEAKER_02]: It was the year that Rick was testing for journeyman Smith. 22:35.967 --> 22:36.368 [SPEAKER_02]: And pass. 22:37.308 --> 22:51.562 [SPEAKER_02]: and some fucking moron came over to his table and he was looking at the knives and then he was like and then while Rick is also simultaneously, he probably has a couple people in front of his table so he's talking to so many else this all of a sudden he hears this 22:53.463 --> 23:20.429 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's how you guys were testing the knife for sharpness by trying to shave the hair on his arm first off That's fucking gross in rude super duper gross the grossest second off What's worse is this guy apparently doesn't know how to shave and he fucking just Flate his arm and blend all over the fucking knife and whatever it was on the table below him and yeah, like Like dropped the knife back down and ran away to the bathroom also. 23:20.449 --> 23:22.390 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah another reason not to wear flip-flops 23:23.231 --> 23:30.864 [SPEAKER_02]: Two, while you may trust yourself, don't trust the person that might be looking at a knife next to you to not drop something on your fucking toes. 23:31.164 --> 23:31.665 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, baby. 23:31.925 --> 23:32.947 [SPEAKER_03]: Keep those toes. 23:33.168 --> 23:33.989 [SPEAKER_03]: Keep those toes. 23:34.009 --> 23:34.590 [SPEAKER_02]: That's it. 23:34.770 --> 23:35.552 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't do that. 23:37.557 --> 24:03.833 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh no, that's the old town, but at least something close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to close to 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Those people are the real heroes. 24:30.222 --> 24:30.642 [SPEAKER_03]: God bless. 24:30.662 --> 24:33.304 [SPEAKER_03]: We have to clean the bathrooms at these events. 24:33.764 --> 24:33.965 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 24:34.285 --> 24:35.185 [SPEAKER_03]: You've got to salute him. 24:35.466 --> 24:37.147 [SPEAKER_03]: You've got to say thank you for your service. 24:37.767 --> 24:42.970 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, He's one of the fuckers are like cleaning up hasmats of people. 24:43.671 --> 24:44.531 [SPEAKER_03]: People are missing. 24:45.272 --> 24:46.493 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like a problem. 24:46.973 --> 24:47.193 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 24:47.413 --> 24:48.254 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, bless him. 24:48.614 --> 24:50.875 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, what other don'ts do we have? 24:53.056 --> 24:54.096 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't waste people's time. 24:54.397 --> 24:55.717 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, don't waste people's time. 24:55.757 --> 24:57.038 [SPEAKER_03]: Especially like a guy. 24:57.138 --> 25:09.704 [SPEAKER_03]: Like if you're just a tire kicker, there's a lot of times some people, you hear the funniest thing is, I think Blade Show did a video on what people should do in the guy who was on it was like, 25:10.284 --> 25:21.629 [SPEAKER_03]: He was gonna give people business advice meanwhile he had this disgusting white t-shirt It was really ill fitting and he just looked like he rolled that a bit of self I'm just like I'm gonna get the I'm gonna take business advice from this motherfucker. 25:21.909 --> 25:23.710 [SPEAKER_03]: You got your mind Then you got bless him. 25:23.950 --> 25:24.770 [SPEAKER_03]: You know God bless him. 25:24.790 --> 25:28.612 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure he's got some fucking tidbits But he wasn't really presenting himself in the manner. 25:28.632 --> 25:33.634 [SPEAKER_03]: I thought this is the guy I would have listed to for the rest of my life This is the guy who's gonna take me to victory 25:34.614 --> 25:57.263 [SPEAKER_03]: This is not the jail in Brunson of, you know, what do you do to do to Blatio, but the weirdest part is, is like, I think that a lot of, there are some people there, I'm giving an example, or man knives by Neuch, Tom, Tom Neuchin, he does a lot of these events. 25:58.023 --> 26:02.885 [SPEAKER_03]: He really, there's some people who I know JD custom knives Jordan dance. 26:02.925 --> 26:08.247 [SPEAKER_03]: He does a lot of these events and I know that I know that Tom does a lot of these events. 26:08.267 --> 26:14.629 [SPEAKER_03]: So he has, he's got the, you know, the reps down in terms of how you behave and how you talk to customers and stuff like that. 26:15.029 --> 26:41.563 [SPEAKER_03]: But a lot of people don't and there's a lot of people don't really have the I mean it's exhausting just even being there and being in front of all these people and meeting people you want to meet and and spying stuff and there's a lot of like energy spent So you really want to be aware that a lot of these guys are not prepared to for the overwhelming you know part of this thing so I think be respectful of not wasting people's time 26:42.503 --> 27:08.924 [SPEAKER_03]: that's a big one because like these dudes are there because you know they're paying for the plur flight they're paying the hotel room they're paying to bring all the shit down there they're paying for the table and there's this is an expectation you're wanting to break even or go more there have been years where I've talked to a lot of guys friends of the show who listen to the show who just like yeah I'm not doing this anymore it's in a break even and there's there's uh there's uh there are more high stakes for some people more than others sure 27:10.452 --> 27:32.385 [SPEAKER_02]: yeah i would agree with that uh i think the only thing like i guess my etiquette when i'm at a table especially if it's somebody i know is if the table is empty i'll talk to the person and i'll chat about but the second it seems like either they're talking to somebody or somebody walks up showing interest that it is in a maker i step back 27:33.125 --> 27:37.971 [SPEAKER_02]: or I'll go, I'll be like, I'll see you later, but I'll let them have the conversation. 27:38.552 --> 27:44.980 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you do not want to, yeah, I'm like, you're saying, you don't want to distract from or interrupt any potential transactions that might occur. 27:45.941 --> 27:48.925 [SPEAKER_02]: Because you're trying to have a fucking conversation with your buddy. 27:50.713 --> 27:58.496 [SPEAKER_03]: But also, I think it's a great opportunity for you as the person there to ask questions. 27:58.576 --> 28:02.158 [SPEAKER_03]: I think you can ask questions on how you did this, or how you do that. 28:02.198 --> 28:03.978 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think there's anything wrong with that stuff. 28:04.599 --> 28:09.641 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just the, don't pretend like you're gonna buy, don't make it seem as though you're gonna buy something. 28:10.121 --> 28:14.643 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, that's what, that's, in my opinion, that's the wasting time, that's the like, 28:15.183 --> 28:28.670 [SPEAKER_03]: trying to make it seem as though you're interested in what this person is doing is is leading towards a sale when you know that you're not planning on that. 28:28.771 --> 28:29.671 [SPEAKER_03]: That's interesting. 28:30.712 --> 28:34.374 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and everybody at the show has a pass of some sort and some of the different passes. 28:35.446 --> 28:38.130 [SPEAKER_02]: have different like color codes but nobody's looking that closely. 28:38.771 --> 28:48.683 [SPEAKER_02]: I wish there was a way to like identify somebody as a maker as they walk up so you can kind of as a tableholder adjust your expectations when somebody comes walking by the table. 28:48.924 --> 28:49.745 [SPEAKER_03]: The ding-dong. 28:50.606 --> 28:51.367 [SPEAKER_03]: The ding-dong. 28:51.387 --> 28:52.709 [SPEAKER_02]: This guy's not buying shit. 28:53.309 --> 28:53.810 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what? 28:54.290 --> 28:55.551 [SPEAKER_03]: Not the worst idea in the world. 28:55.611 --> 29:01.335 [SPEAKER_03]: You could have a budget pass Like called the ding-dong pass and it's a slagged of you. 29:01.355 --> 29:08.199 [SPEAKER_03]: They don't like get to get you in your ding-dong wristband I ain't talking to you dog, you know, but you get a better part. 29:08.219 --> 29:19.767 [SPEAKER_03]: You get a better rate But you don't get this much access and then you could have the big mocker, you know, like the big the high the high roller Briss band and everybody's gonna get down get down to it. 29:19.827 --> 29:20.527 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying? 29:22.570 --> 29:23.011 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 29:23.451 --> 29:23.932 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sad. 29:23.952 --> 29:24.712 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to be there. 29:24.732 --> 29:33.582 [SPEAKER_03]: I always have a good time and usually what happens is Lawrence Lake always brings me down and I do enjoy going down there. 29:33.602 --> 29:35.404 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not a very negative person. 29:35.464 --> 29:35.945 [SPEAKER_03]: I love it. 29:36.105 --> 29:36.585 [SPEAKER_02]: I love it. 29:36.625 --> 29:37.686 [SPEAKER_03]: He always says no job. 29:37.706 --> 29:38.728 [SPEAKER_02]: He comes flying in. 29:39.268 --> 29:39.949 [SPEAKER_03]: You take it. 29:39.989 --> 29:45.015 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it took care because when you say somebody's bringing you down It sounds like they're giving you time. 29:45.035 --> 29:45.936 [SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no. 29:45.956 --> 29:49.761 [SPEAKER_03]: It's bringing me down You know who else isn't bringing me down our guys at even heat man. 29:49.781 --> 29:58.211 [SPEAKER_03]: Your fact sure is the finest heat treat ovens available Go to even each dash kill.com and see what the fuss about and when you if you're at blade show 29:58.972 --> 30:06.056 [SPEAKER_03]: Go up to Quinn, go up to all those guys over at, even heat, the boys are always there. 30:06.356 --> 30:08.717 [SPEAKER_03]: Spence, go see us, our boy spends, he'll be down there. 30:09.037 --> 30:11.739 [SPEAKER_03]: I know Spence will definitely be down there because a boy likes a party. 30:12.499 --> 30:17.482 [SPEAKER_03]: And his dad may or may know, I think his dad is had it with the blade show, but I'm sure he may be there. 30:18.282 --> 30:25.445 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, but a shout out to even eat actually at last week, I bought two new thermal couples just to have a couple. 30:25.465 --> 30:38.089 [SPEAKER_03]: It's just to have them and they sent them really quick and they're really inexpensive and it's a great maintenance upgrade for your, well, maintenance thing, a very inexpensive maintenance thing to make sure that your your even heets are humming when they're humming. 30:38.249 --> 30:38.870 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I mean? 30:38.890 --> 30:42.831 [SPEAKER_03]: So even you dash home.com go say hi and say the guys at night talks say hello. 30:43.408 --> 30:48.531 [SPEAKER_02]: I actually spent a lot of time chatting with those guys or last year hanging out over at their booth who was cool. 30:49.172 --> 30:50.293 [SPEAKER_03]: There are good dudes, man. 30:50.333 --> 30:52.434 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a family business and what else? 30:53.174 --> 30:53.595 [SPEAKER_03]: What else? 30:53.615 --> 30:58.098 [SPEAKER_03]: So there are any blatial funny stories or... Ugh. 30:58.178 --> 30:58.718 [SPEAKER_03]: What else? 30:58.998 --> 31:00.459 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's just keep trying to think of dumps. 31:01.160 --> 31:03.081 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't grab something off people's table. 31:03.761 --> 31:04.722 [SPEAKER_02]: Ask for permission. 31:05.302 --> 31:07.024 [SPEAKER_02]: Be respectful and just ask. 31:07.684 --> 31:30.721 [SPEAKER_02]: For most makers are going to tell you, yeah, go ahead, but still be respectful, like there's just so many people that are walking around the show and mindlessly grabbing stuff and then slapping it back down on the fucking touch, don't be fucking touch, they got a force to put these guys got a force to do to my hand, that's my rule, I don't want to drop, I'm afraid to drop, I would never 31:31.642 --> 31:36.565 [SPEAKER_03]: I would never let you grab it as you're pulling out of your leg. 31:36.605 --> 31:54.995 [SPEAKER_03]: No, there are people who are forcing me to hold their knife and I have to say, Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 31:57.857 --> 32:00.058 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a great job. 32:01.539 --> 32:02.840 [SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be a lot of people. 32:02.920 --> 32:06.762 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm excited to see who tests for Journeyman Smith, and who tests for Master. 32:07.142 --> 32:08.042 [SPEAKER_03]: That's always fun. 32:09.663 --> 32:13.065 [SPEAKER_03]: It's fun to see what happens and it's a great event. 32:13.385 --> 32:15.786 [SPEAKER_03]: And are you a big fan of the pit? 32:16.047 --> 32:17.087 [SPEAKER_03]: The pit is the night. 32:17.587 --> 32:20.169 [SPEAKER_03]: The Friday and Saturday nights in the middle of the. 32:20.189 --> 32:20.709 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 32:21.049 --> 32:21.369 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:21.810 --> 32:23.090 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll probably be down there. 32:23.130 --> 32:23.691 [SPEAKER_02]: Situation. 32:24.051 --> 32:24.271 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:24.651 --> 32:27.853 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I'll definitely be down there socializing at some point. 32:29.555 --> 32:30.435 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm a fan of the pit. 32:31.096 --> 32:31.996 [SPEAKER_02]: There's nothing wrong with that. 32:33.117 --> 32:34.958 [SPEAKER_02]: Things get a little hectic down there sometimes. 32:34.998 --> 32:36.019 [SPEAKER_02]: People get really loud. 32:37.360 --> 32:42.864 [SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of weird to keep in mind that everybody's walking around with a bunch of knives on that. 32:42.884 --> 32:43.344 [SPEAKER_02]: Some sort. 32:45.306 --> 32:48.248 [SPEAKER_03]: I would highly suggest if you really want to be a fan of the show. 32:49.872 --> 32:56.914 [SPEAKER_03]: take a picture or a short video of the quiet tables where everyone's sitting around the table just flipping and no one's talking. 32:57.595 --> 32:58.795 [SPEAKER_03]: That's what I like the best. 32:59.535 --> 33:02.456 [SPEAKER_03]: No one's having conversation but they're just sitting around the table flipping. 33:02.836 --> 33:13.020 [SPEAKER_03]: You get points if you send me some pictures of video that and then also when you see Kyle Daily at the pit he will have a cooler with him. 33:14.455 --> 33:19.001 [SPEAKER_03]: And when you see him, say, Jeff says you have something in there for me. 33:21.944 --> 33:24.668 [SPEAKER_03]: Kyle Daily, Cage Daily dies, the man. 33:25.209 --> 33:27.091 [SPEAKER_03]: Say, Jeff said you have something in there for me. 33:27.875 --> 33:28.316 [SPEAKER_01]: That's fine. 33:28.656 --> 33:29.116 [SPEAKER_01]: You'll be fine. 33:29.377 --> 33:29.917 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be fine. 33:29.957 --> 33:30.338 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be fine. 33:30.378 --> 33:30.838 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be fine. 33:30.858 --> 33:31.739 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be fine. 33:31.779 --> 33:32.180 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:32.200 --> 33:32.760 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:32.820 --> 33:33.381 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:33.401 --> 33:33.962 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:34.022 --> 33:34.542 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:34.562 --> 33:35.183 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:35.203 --> 33:35.763 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:35.944 --> 33:37.225 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:37.265 --> 33:38.066 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:38.086 --> 33:38.707 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:38.727 --> 33:39.267 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:39.287 --> 33:39.928 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:39.948 --> 33:40.408 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:40.428 --> 33:41.069 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:41.089 --> 33:41.410 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:41.430 --> 33:41.730 [SPEAKER_03]: We'll be fine. 33:50.479 --> 34:03.785 [SPEAKER_03]: and I put in the promo code knife to talk 10 and it peels off 10% off and you want to get that right away because the right away from the dots USA is the best of the best thing you can get much better than that and then you can buy it however you want to buy it and then they're going to ship it to you how they ship it to you quick. 34:04.625 --> 34:11.288 [SPEAKER_03]: I just bought some and it's on the way so many thanks to our friends and Texas various supply and many thanks to our friends in 34:12.488 --> 34:17.432 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, let's just take some questions and we have questions, we've already if that will y'all ask this up. 34:17.772 --> 34:37.105 [SPEAKER_03]: And then if there's something, if something jogged your memory for a blade show, like the fact that they'll usually have like some, some, what is that chicken chick filet, and then you can buy of like a six dollar sandwich that looks like they sat on it or they warmed it up 34:40.928 --> 35:02.380 [SPEAKER_02]: ass warm so you're giving them yeah but uh you know he's a rough spot it's a rough spot I'll offer one more tip is uh one try to bring your own food as much as you can because those fucking chick play sandwiches are like $12 for like three by oh yeah now you're gonna be more than that I mean yeah the pro get me more than that 35:03.220 --> 35:06.064 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, a good tip for dinner though at the end of the night. 35:07.026 --> 35:09.349 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the food there is fine. 35:09.830 --> 35:12.534 [SPEAKER_02]: But the uh, what is at the Atlanta Braves? 35:12.574 --> 35:15.698 [SPEAKER_02]: Their baseball field is like right across the fucking highway. 35:15.738 --> 35:17.180 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a scratch sky bridge. 35:17.741 --> 35:18.502 [SPEAKER_02]: It takes like, 35:19.505 --> 35:24.327 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe five to ten minutes to walk over there and there's tons of food options over there. 35:24.467 --> 35:25.787 [SPEAKER_03]: Really good, good call. 35:26.067 --> 35:27.948 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a lot of great food over there. 35:28.008 --> 35:28.968 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a few bars. 35:29.068 --> 35:30.829 [SPEAKER_02]: There's tons of options over there. 35:31.229 --> 35:36.211 [SPEAKER_02]: It's still going to be kind of expensive, but it's going to be, I think, probably. 35:36.491 --> 35:38.712 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to find something that's going to suit you better than... 35:39.452 --> 35:53.017 [SPEAKER_02]: the kind of like the ridiculousness of the price last year there was like there was at least a game it's cool because they have like this family hangout spot that's outside of the ballpark and there's a bunch of bars and stuff around and that sounds weird. 35:53.497 --> 36:02.160 [SPEAKER_02]: There's a playground and bars but restaurants is what I meant and you can kind of watch the game from outside of the park in that way. 36:02.240 --> 36:03.300 [SPEAKER_03]: So what is cheat June 5th? 36:05.172 --> 36:08.473 [SPEAKER_03]: You, yeah, fifth six, seven, seven guys. 36:08.533 --> 36:09.154 [SPEAKER_03]: 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37:06.752 [SPEAKER_03]: I think I have. 37:07.492 --> 37:10.375 [SPEAKER_03]: But shout out to the braves, but no thanks. 37:11.316 --> 37:11.656 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 37:11.917 --> 37:12.417 [SPEAKER_03]: All right guys. 37:12.437 --> 37:13.078 [SPEAKER_03]: That's a hard path. 37:13.518 --> 37:16.821 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's do, let's do some questions and then we'll see where we go. 37:17.161 --> 37:17.402 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 37:18.943 --> 37:19.223 [SPEAKER_02]: All right. 37:19.283 --> 37:20.945 [SPEAKER_02]: This first, do you want me to take this first one? 37:20.965 --> 37:22.987 [SPEAKER_03]: I would tell people how they can send questions in. 37:23.728 --> 37:38.231 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, well, if you've got a question, or a dilemma, whatever else you got, you want to share with the show, send us a DM over at night at night talk, podcasts, all one word, over on Instagram. 37:38.451 --> 37:39.571 [SPEAKER_02]: That's where all the questions go. 37:39.631 --> 37:46.092 [SPEAKER_02]: They do not go to directly to Jeff or Craig or myself, they unfortunately will not get answered there. 37:46.512 --> 37:49.393 [SPEAKER_02]: You gotta go to the night talk podcast where to be part of the show. 37:50.754 --> 37:53.455 [SPEAKER_02]: So this first one is from Roland, did I do that right? 37:53.595 --> 37:53.995 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that good? 37:54.115 --> 37:54.836 [SPEAKER_03]: You'd be perfect. 37:55.036 --> 37:55.656 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 37:55.796 --> 37:57.617 [SPEAKER_02]: That's where it's the one is from Roland, Shalifo. 37:58.257 --> 38:02.179 [SPEAKER_02]: He says at what point is someone a knife, a sampler instead of a knife maker? 38:02.739 --> 38:05.340 [SPEAKER_02]: I met a knife maker in my area recently. 38:05.460 --> 38:15.244 [SPEAKER_02]: He gets his designs and water jet cup blanks since them out for heat treat, buys handle blanks, sounds like a, sounds like he babbles sharpens and puts scales on. 38:16.044 --> 38:28.928 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong, beautiful knives, but seem like taking the path of least resistance and charging a pretty penny What do you thoughts on a knife assembler versus a knife maker? 38:29.148 --> 38:33.789 [SPEAKER_03]: I think Rollins to busy counting other people's money Yeah, that's what I think so too. 38:33.929 --> 38:44.092 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's His nose is up somebody else's tailpipe God bless you roll it up with you, but if you do you know I mean 38:44.972 --> 38:53.175 [SPEAKER_03]: Look, the longer I've done this, the more I can't get, I can't get to horned up about what other people are doing. 38:53.315 --> 39:09.982 [SPEAKER_03]: As long as if it doesn't have a direct relationship to me, I, you know, it's from her podcast is fun because, you know, we get paid to be a little shitty, you know, so it's like, it works a little bit, but in my heart of heart side, I think to myself, I think to myself, 39:10.402 --> 39:15.286 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, years ago, I'd be like, this motherfucker over here is doing it, and then I get, I get a little older. 39:15.306 --> 39:22.511 [SPEAKER_03]: I get, I get a worry less about other people doing, and it doesn't really, it's just energy mispend for me. 39:22.711 --> 39:30.577 [SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, as long as I'm not involved in, I'm not, you know, the person's lying, it's just, it doesn't really have anything to do with me. 39:31.076 --> 39:40.064 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and it doesn't even sound like he's necessarily like using the person of being dishonest, just uh, it's just Yeah, he's like he's into that person's approach. 39:40.425 --> 39:44.508 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like the dudes who get the blanks and they put their hammer marks on and call themselves bladesmiths. 39:45.509 --> 39:45.689 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. 39:45.729 --> 39:47.071 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, all right, listen. 39:47.471 --> 39:50.293 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, and it's, I think we're getting into semantics. 39:50.333 --> 39:50.494 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 39:50.514 --> 39:52.596 [SPEAKER_02]: As a nice assembler versus a knife maker. 39:52.916 --> 39:53.156 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 39:53.456 --> 39:55.658 [SPEAKER_02]: Is there a difference between a knife maker and a knife forger? 39:56.519 --> 39:58.119 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, like, where are the differences? 39:58.159 --> 40:00.080 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think all of them are different. 40:00.660 --> 40:10.842 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess ways of making knives, but it's all knife making, and also regarding like how much somebody charges, I don't know what to tell you. 40:10.982 --> 40:13.423 [SPEAKER_02]: If they can fucking sell it, why wouldn't they charge? 40:14.283 --> 40:15.123 [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever they're charging. 40:15.784 --> 40:21.985 [SPEAKER_02]: If they can still run a business, if they've done the, you know, there are, there are makers out there whose work I look at. 40:22.025 --> 40:23.125 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm just like, what the fuck? 40:23.225 --> 40:25.746 [SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, I can't shit on them too much. 40:26.766 --> 40:40.120 [SPEAKER_02]: unless they're being like deceptive, but if they've built up a brand and they've told a story and they've got the demand for the work and they can sell it for what they can sell it, like fucking honestly, like good on them. 40:40.320 --> 40:43.444 [SPEAKER_02]: And if anything, there's something to learn from those people. 40:44.576 --> 40:45.437 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like that. 40:45.897 --> 40:48.078 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like that stock removal. 40:48.298 --> 40:49.619 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like stock removal. 40:49.639 --> 40:51.400 [SPEAKER_03]: Some sort of dirty dirty word. 40:51.480 --> 40:51.941 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah sure. 40:51.961 --> 40:57.684 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's like some guys just get like a special A A nobody gets more sensitive. 40:57.744 --> 41:00.266 [SPEAKER_03]: I think all the stock removal person that is stock removal person. 41:00.286 --> 41:00.986 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying? 41:01.046 --> 41:02.687 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like I don't ever forget. 41:02.747 --> 41:05.269 [SPEAKER_03]: I was in a I was in a class by my main man. 41:05.689 --> 41:09.191 [SPEAKER_03]: Nichol J was a long time ago and he called me. 41:09.331 --> 41:12.233 [SPEAKER_03]: His nickname for me that day was stock removal and I'm like bro. 41:14.054 --> 41:21.181 [SPEAKER_03]: And I didn't want to say anything because I have been forging, I've been a blacksmith for longer than he ever picked up a hammer. 41:21.522 --> 41:28.429 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, a boy was working in a, you know, he was working as a social worker, but I was knocking out tickets. 41:28.449 --> 41:32.553 [SPEAKER_03]: So I don't need to, you know, at the same time, I didn't feel the need to say something. 41:32.973 --> 41:36.975 [SPEAKER_03]: But he, and I know, I love that man, he, my big, big monster. 41:36.995 --> 41:38.416 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, a big, beautiful monster. 41:38.616 --> 41:39.297 [SPEAKER_03]: I love that man. 41:39.517 --> 41:39.717 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 41:39.737 --> 41:43.119 [SPEAKER_03]: But I know when he called me stock removal, it was not a compliment. 41:43.519 --> 41:47.682 [SPEAKER_03]: It was, it was, it was, he was throwing some fucking major spin on that. 41:48.362 --> 41:49.643 [SPEAKER_03]: She gave it to me. 41:49.864 --> 41:51.005 [SPEAKER_03]: He's like all right soccer move. 41:51.025 --> 41:55.028 [SPEAKER_03]: Let's get the like all right just chill chill chill Jeff just chill. 41:55.068 --> 42:05.638 [SPEAKER_02]: Just let him do his thing that is funny Well, and I think realistically like he this guy's talking about like he he gets the knives laser cut out Or whatever water jet out. 42:05.678 --> 42:08.300 [SPEAKER_02]: He's getting the blinks me and like all he sends it out of each. 42:08.360 --> 42:09.281 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm like honestly like 42:10.702 --> 42:26.535 [SPEAKER_02]: If you gotta do what you gotta do, and also if you're scaling, if you're trying to scale and do a type of production, that's what the fuck you're going to do, because there's no gold stars or fucking awards being handed out for the best profile knife. 42:35.932 --> 42:57.449 [SPEAKER_02]: It's the overall aesthetic, how everything does come together, the overall looks, the grant and making sure the grants and everything, like all of that, the final product is really what's the most important, and honestly, unfortunately, not necessarily how it gets there, especially if it comes to a production knife, like you're trying to 42:58.370 --> 43:19.156 [SPEAKER_02]: bring the cost down for that thing is and honestly that's just good business but you're trying to bring down the cost of production as much as you possibly can while still trying to keep maintain quality as much as you can and that's just good business that's just how that shit works and if you can sell it for a pretty penny at the same time fucking good for you without being 43:24.493 --> 43:29.196 [SPEAKER_03]: I love rolling and I'm glad he always contributes and we're not giving you a hard time at all. 43:29.917 --> 43:42.405 [SPEAKER_03]: If funny enough, it made me think about the fact that I know that there are some people who criticize Bladesmiths who forge steel that starts out as a, as a, you know. 43:42.925 --> 44:03.983 [SPEAKER_03]: Close the the materials all you're doing is forging down the tip and you're forging down the the Tang like you're you're using you know eighth by two inch bar and People bitch of people who that's not blades, but think of where you go to start for the you know You have to start with this small piece of material you know you got it that's blades Something you know there's all there's levels saw this 44:06.525 --> 44:24.631 [SPEAKER_03]: you know what I'm saying it's like you know what I'm talking about like I know well you just you just had to steal the right size you know all you had to do is knock in a tip and then knock in the tang and big go back and go bon go use your grinder that's not forging yeah people do that I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it that I get to the point where I'm just like 44:25.950 --> 44:26.671 [SPEAKER_03]: just leave me alone. 44:27.131 --> 44:28.773 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't give a, you call yourself whatever you want. 44:29.715 --> 44:43.071 [SPEAKER_03]: I have had a couple guys, you know, get fresh with me and then it's like it's very clear that that would be the only thing I don't like is when they get fresh with you online and then just like they're pretending is if that there's, you know, 44:43.411 --> 44:59.737 [SPEAKER_03]: There was a guy on, when I did the Epicurious video and one of the comments, he cursed that me for saying that 52 I said that I said that 52 100 steel was carbon steel, and then obviously I was lying or I don't know or I'm honestly 45:00.137 --> 45:21.297 [SPEAKER_03]: No, he said he said clearly this guy doesn't know what he's talking about because 5200 steals this is why you can't trust anything on the internet and I remember his name was like internet bladesmith it was like it was like you know it was like that was his that was his handle was like internet bladesmith he's like obviously this guy's he's completely doesn't know what he's talking about his 5200 I'm like listen schmuck 45:21.717 --> 45:23.739 [SPEAKER_03]: 52, I mean, I kept it simple. 45:23.759 --> 45:25.101 [SPEAKER_03]: 52, 100 is Scarby's deal. 45:25.882 --> 45:33.910 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't care what you say, but it's like, there are people who, they get fresh and sometimes you got to give them a little bit of, you know, you know, if it's encouragement. 45:34.311 --> 45:37.454 [SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say, yeah, just to be clear, 5,200 is Scarby's deal. 45:37.474 --> 45:38.735 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's Scarby's deal. 45:39.416 --> 45:44.219 [SPEAKER_02]: It's an ultra high carbon steel or it's considered an ultra high carbon steel, but it's still a carbon steel. 45:44.280 --> 45:45.500 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not stainless, it's not. 45:45.520 --> 45:52.045 [SPEAKER_02]: It sometimes is called a tool steel because it's great for making cutting tools or tools of some sort. 45:52.405 --> 45:56.808 [SPEAKER_02]: But it doesn't necessarily, I don't mean it's still not also a carbon steel. 45:57.169 --> 45:58.209 [SPEAKER_03]: I love it. 45:58.470 --> 46:04.214 [SPEAKER_03]: I love 52 and that's my preferred steel for my carbon model steel. 46:04.254 --> 46:04.614 [SPEAKER_03]: I love it. 46:04.994 --> 46:06.756 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know where you can get some 52 and other. 46:06.776 --> 46:06.936 [SPEAKER_03]: Where? 46:07.556 --> 46:08.477 [SPEAKER_03]: Maritime nice supply. 46:08.517 --> 46:09.137 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure of it. 46:09.297 --> 46:09.857 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure of it. 46:09.897 --> 46:12.479 [SPEAKER_03]: Go to MaritimeknifeSupply.com. 46:12.959 --> 46:19.322 [SPEAKER_03]: It's your one stop shop for knife makers, steel belts, abrasives, hand-on materials, tools, forged kills, heat-trudiums, all that stuff. 46:20.163 --> 46:24.665 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you're ad blade show, go to sea Lawrence. 46:24.705 --> 46:27.707 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure Lawrence, you're going to be with you Morocco for a lot of time. 46:28.047 --> 46:31.589 [SPEAKER_03]: And you're going to go to the Damasteel table. 46:32.389 --> 46:33.330 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to pull that up. 46:34.110 --> 46:35.671 [SPEAKER_02]: the big old booths. 46:35.691 --> 46:37.131 [SPEAKER_03]: So here's what we're going to do guys. 46:37.151 --> 46:41.512 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to go and you're going to visit the Damocile table and I got it all there. 46:42.613 --> 46:48.815 [SPEAKER_03]: They're hosting an annual build along hangout at our booth at 12 noon on Saturday of Bladeshow. 46:49.255 --> 47:07.147 [SPEAKER_03]: They're going to have cold beverages on hand, and Morocco and Lawrence will be there to hang out, see everyone and talk about these things of the build along, and they have a, and if you're at blade show, they're going to have a limited number of blade show build along, damage you'll build along the available for cash. 47:08.608 --> 47:27.620 [SPEAKER_03]: Carly wants to cash ladies and germs don't be showing up to get in that ship for the go get yourself go get on to the On to the couch and dig up some money before you get down there if you're gonna but you're gonna go to 12 o'clock You're gonna go to the damnest you'll booth and you're gonna go say hi to Lawrence from Merit 10 nice play who's also support is sponsoring 47:28.861 --> 47:40.193 [SPEAKER_03]: He has the Bill Long Steel, if you're international, definitely go to Damasteel booth at 12 noon on Saturday and get yourself some of the Bill Long Steel. 47:40.674 --> 47:45.940 [SPEAKER_03]: And then many thanks to our friends at Maritime Knife Supply, I'm going to that boy at Lawrence Lake, is unbelievable. 47:46.400 --> 47:56.044 [SPEAKER_03]: He's the best he's the best and you know what go up to him and say I here you have some before me He was he's got all kinds of stuff. 47:56.064 --> 48:04.047 [SPEAKER_03]: He's gonna give you a pencil He's gonna give you a sticker cozy he ain't give you something if you go up to Mary And you go up to Lawrence lake over merits. 48:04.107 --> 48:08.288 [SPEAKER_03]: I nice by a blade show say I I heard you have some before me He will have something for you. 48:08.688 --> 48:14.211 [SPEAKER_03]: That is the one guarantee and there's gonna be some more people who are you going to Hit up with a blade show and say 48:15.711 --> 48:16.913 [SPEAKER_02]: make sure you gotta lose going. 48:17.313 --> 48:17.654 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah. 48:17.674 --> 48:18.515 [SPEAKER_03]: So we get Kyle. 48:18.615 --> 48:20.938 [SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna go up to Kyle and say, here you've something got some for me. 48:21.499 --> 48:24.563 [SPEAKER_03]: You're gonna go up to Josh Scott and say, hey, hey, big daddy. 48:24.663 --> 48:25.724 [SPEAKER_03]: I have you got some for me. 48:26.045 --> 48:27.767 [SPEAKER_03]: You have the Lawrence Lake is a hey, man. 48:27.787 --> 48:30.290 [SPEAKER_03]: I, I think you're really do have something for me. 48:30.670 --> 48:31.672 [SPEAKER_03]: And then there will be more people. 48:32.172 --> 48:32.493 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah. 48:33.554 --> 48:34.394 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, what's next? 48:34.574 --> 48:34.934 [SPEAKER_02]: I want it. 48:35.074 --> 48:37.536 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to follow up with that Roland Shelfo. 48:37.576 --> 48:51.804 [SPEAKER_02]: It sounds like I'm giving him a real hard time And I will say I've been in exactly the same position where I see I meet either I meet somebody in person or I see somebody's work online and For a minute, I'm like, what the fuck's the deal with this guy shit? 48:51.844 --> 48:58.168 [SPEAKER_02]: Like it looks it doesn't look like it's blah blah blah Whatever I got in my head or I'm feeling whatever annoyed about 48:58.728 --> 49:08.458 [SPEAKER_02]: But then ultimately, I got to back up and say, look, as long as they're being transparent and like, it's their business, how they run their business. 49:09.519 --> 49:11.201 [SPEAKER_02]: And there has nothing to do with me. 49:11.722 --> 49:13.463 [SPEAKER_02]: Their success has nothing to do with me. 49:13.483 --> 49:16.406 [SPEAKER_02]: Their fate, whatever, my success has nothing to do with them, blah, blah, blah, blah. 49:17.047 --> 49:20.330 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think I, and then I catch myself in it. 49:20.951 --> 49:40.680 [SPEAKER_02]: feeling like, oh, this is just kind of like some weird almost like jealousy, like in a way manifesting in me and then I just realized, oh, I gotta take a step back because I feel like I'm a fucking doxin with my nose halfway up somebody else's ass, and instead of just instead of just focusing on my own shit, because 49:41.760 --> 50:09.435 [SPEAKER_02]: What everybody else has going on really has very little if anything to do with you if and I I really like try try to translate that whatever jealousy that you might be feeling like again I'm come this is I'm coming from place where I feel this too and It's translate that into trying to figure out something you can learn from that person because they're doing something that you might not be doing that you can learn from 50:10.576 --> 50:11.676 [SPEAKER_02]: So, that's all. 50:12.337 --> 50:16.798 [SPEAKER_02]: I just want to follow up because I started to realize I was like, oh, it feels like I'm being a little hard maybe. 50:16.918 --> 50:20.018 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god, Roland is our guide. 50:20.038 --> 50:23.099 [SPEAKER_03]: There's a great topic of conversation and that's what these questions are meant to do. 50:23.179 --> 50:24.520 [SPEAKER_03]: So, we're with you. 50:24.580 --> 50:37.383 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, there is a situation where sometimes, and there is something, there is something to be said about there are certain people who are, you know, casting, you know, they're like that company that was using Chinese deal when they said there wasn't Chinese deal. 50:37.583 --> 50:45.593 [SPEAKER_03]: right and you know it's it there's there are levels to this and and you know I don't I mean 50:47.135 --> 50:51.459 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't, the older I get, the less I can be involved with other people's business. 50:52.220 --> 50:53.942 [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't have it in me anymore. 50:54.502 --> 51:02.029 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm getting older, I'm getting, my shit is starting to fall apart, and I, I have to spend my hands on fucked you up. 51:02.509 --> 51:08.655 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, dude, super duper fucked me up, and after Japan, I'm getting back in, I have a whole system in place that I've been told not to work out until I can. 51:08.675 --> 51:10.376 [SPEAKER_02]: Holy shit, for real, I was just joking. 51:11.157 --> 51:14.139 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, no, no, I mean, I'm not really falling apart, but I mean, it fucked me up. 51:14.159 --> 51:16.700 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the marathon fucked my fuck me up for a long time. 51:17.080 --> 51:17.381 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 51:17.421 --> 51:25.325 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm just like any other thing is is like, I'm spending more time in the shop ever since I had kind of a change in employee change. 51:25.365 --> 51:29.788 [SPEAKER_03]: I was coming to the shop and when I would normally be working out and now I'm 51:30.568 --> 51:31.448 [SPEAKER_03]: in order to catch up. 51:31.488 --> 51:33.549 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm, I got to put my time in there. 51:33.609 --> 51:34.989 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you know me cares about me. 51:35.049 --> 51:47.293 [SPEAKER_03]: So the next is our man Paul Jans and GSL that's gold star listener Paul Jans is the man and he goes, I don't know if this is a hot take or not, but most of us myself included are not as good as we think we are. 51:47.713 --> 51:56.339 [SPEAKER_03]: We might put out good quality work, but we rely heavily on equipment and tools that can fix or eliminate screw-ups and allow us to look better than we are. 51:56.739 --> 52:04.884 [SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people spend years designing and developing tools that are so user-friendly, even some with no experience can have decent success. 52:05.324 --> 52:10.508 [SPEAKER_03]: We owe a lot of credit to the people behind the scenes, helping us make us look good. 52:11.913 --> 52:27.317 [SPEAKER_03]: So there are, you know, so you want efficiency, efficiency of equipment is one of those things where it might not be a situation where you press the button in the knife spits out, but it is, but it is the efficiency of having better equipment makes your life lot easier. 52:27.637 --> 52:36.360 [SPEAKER_03]: I can think right now right off on top of my head, head, the power hammer, the entire hammer I have, which I curse as much as I like. 52:37.810 --> 52:40.874 [SPEAKER_03]: It allows me to be more efficient in the shop. 52:41.054 --> 52:42.996 [SPEAKER_03]: If I'm forging integral bolster knives, I can't. 52:43.416 --> 52:51.685 [SPEAKER_03]: I can't knock out an integral bolster out of a piece of, you know, a 10-80 hex bar, you know, by hand, I'd be shot. 52:51.906 --> 52:53.367 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm a whole man, dude. 52:53.728 --> 52:54.128 [SPEAKER_01]: It'd be nice. 52:54.148 --> 52:55.349 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh for that. 52:56.150 --> 53:00.435 [SPEAKER_03]: And the tire hammer with the tooling and the tire hammer makes me look better. 53:01.276 --> 53:06.683 [SPEAKER_03]: If I didn't have the breading, if I didn't have the brought-back ironworks, I would have a harder time. 53:06.703 --> 53:10.147 [SPEAKER_03]: It wouldn't be as efficient if I didn't have the brought-backs. 53:10.167 --> 53:12.389 [SPEAKER_03]: Because if I was on a one by 30, or if I was using a file, I'd be bold. 53:15.963 --> 53:16.183 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 53:17.023 --> 53:18.784 [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, tools are super important. 53:18.964 --> 53:23.786 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think I remember one time I was forging a knife. 53:24.366 --> 53:27.607 [SPEAKER_02]: I had a friend a long time friend of mine with the high school with this guy. 53:27.647 --> 53:34.930 [SPEAKER_02]: He came by a visit of my shop and he was watching me forge out a knife on a press and he's like, do you ever just do it by hand? 53:34.970 --> 53:40.472 [SPEAKER_02]: I was like, and I was forging an integral knife out and I was just like, oh, sure, but it's a lot more work. 53:41.292 --> 53:42.933 [SPEAKER_02]: And the tools are here for 53:44.193 --> 54:01.426 [SPEAKER_02]: To help us do the fucking work and I guarantee like there are some people who are like, oh, you got to do it the traditional way and all I can think is like if these if those motherfuckers a hundred years ago or two hundred years ago or five hundred years ago, whenever If they had access to these tools you sure as fucking shit they'd be using them 54:02.510 --> 54:03.150 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 54:03.590 --> 54:05.411 [SPEAKER_02]: So if we got tools, use them. 54:05.991 --> 54:07.031 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no glory. 54:07.071 --> 54:14.493 [SPEAKER_02]: Again, there's no gold stars and certificates being handed out to people for fucking doing things the hard way. 54:15.573 --> 54:17.933 [SPEAKER_02]: And if you got the tools, fucking use them. 54:17.953 --> 54:19.234 [SPEAKER_02]: If you got the jigs, use them. 54:19.774 --> 54:20.494 [SPEAKER_02]: There's no need. 54:20.514 --> 54:22.514 [SPEAKER_02]: Because it's, honestly, it's already hard. 54:22.574 --> 54:23.754 [SPEAKER_02]: It's hard enough as it is. 54:24.175 --> 54:26.575 [SPEAKER_02]: And there's no need to make it more harder on yourself. 54:32.940 --> 54:33.421 [SPEAKER_02]: That's like that. 54:34.281 --> 54:34.962 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's good. 54:35.703 --> 54:36.444 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's really good. 54:36.464 --> 54:44.012 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I speak new, which I was talking to, I think that you're talking about 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had a really nice conversation. 56:19.603 --> 56:37.975 [SPEAKER_03]: When we were talking about business for a little bit about how, you know, the changing and pricing and stuff like that, and what they're doing to try to, like, you know, be competitive in terms of not only dealing with, like, you know, supply chain issues and stuff like that, but like, how to take care of their customers, and I'm a huge fan of them. 56:38.855 --> 56:57.008 [SPEAKER_03]: Ryan actually sent me a question in and we have you and I can answer it and then there's he has a follow-up for it but he says something kind of interesting happened I was using the knife you gave you a maker camp to open some mail this morning and the recosso area is apparently magnetic. 56:57.529 --> 57:03.233 [SPEAKER_03]: I've never seen that before and he took a picture of one of my little camp knives and a paperclip was sinking to it. 57:03.933 --> 57:18.496 [SPEAKER_03]: And he says maybe he'll be a fun topic for knife talk and I wrote to him He says it could be a fun topic for knife talk and I say, well, we can all say we have no idea Put the product But what do you think is going on? 57:18.797 --> 57:30.859 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so metal most Ferris metal can become Magnetic or be magnetized by exposure to magnets. 57:31.059 --> 57:32.820 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where he stores that knife 57:33.840 --> 57:38.962 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't know how, how forging. 57:39.342 --> 57:40.843 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe you quenched it, do ignore it. 57:40.863 --> 57:44.384 [SPEAKER_03]: No, this was a stock removal AETBL. 57:44.764 --> 57:45.325 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 57:45.805 --> 57:58.009 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, so somewhere, my guess is somewhere in the production process, probably post-heat tree, it, it's become exposed to magnets, whether it was at your shop 58:02.471 --> 58:10.074 [SPEAKER_02]: And, and that can cause, um, kind of can't remember, I remember learning about this in terms of grade science. 58:10.614 --> 58:19.377 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember all exactly, but you can make steels magnetic by exposing them to magnetic fields basically. 58:19.737 --> 58:23.339 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he reached, because he's had the knife for a long time and it wasn't magnetic for a while. 58:23.379 --> 58:26.040 [SPEAKER_03]: So he actually reached out to our man, Dr. Lair Thomas. 58:26.920 --> 58:33.144 [SPEAKER_03]: And Dr. Larry and Thomas says 99 out of 100 times that happens because it was on a magnet. 58:33.224 --> 58:35.186 [SPEAKER_03]: Of course, you can also demagnetize it. 58:35.626 --> 58:43.271 [SPEAKER_03]: Most times, most times it's noticed shortly after buying it from the maker who used a magnetic chuck at some point. 58:43.812 --> 58:45.413 [SPEAKER_03]: And it fades away after a while. 58:46.093 --> 58:47.034 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's interesting. 58:47.294 --> 58:48.875 [SPEAKER_03]: And then he said, 58:50.536 --> 59:06.823 [SPEAKER_03]: He said there are a few other ways, like an electric current and other things I don't understand, but I don't understand, but a magnet, he said it could be electric current, but mostly it's, you know, it was sitting on a magnet block for a while or, you know, magnet shock or something. 59:07.061 --> 59:33.783 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it's kind of right I kind of knew I just looked it up real quick it says to magnetize steel expose the steel to a strong magnetic field so it's internal magnetic domains align so you can and you can cause something to become magnetic but or steel to become magnetic but I can't remember how the how the demagnetizers work 59:37.709 --> 59:37.949 [SPEAKER_03]: you know. 59:38.710 --> 59:40.591 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know. 59:40.711 --> 59:41.551 [SPEAKER_03]: I have no idea. 59:41.772 --> 59:44.493 [SPEAKER_03]: And you know what? 59:44.713 --> 59:45.494 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't store. 59:45.594 --> 59:46.475 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't use mag. 59:46.495 --> 59:49.597 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, some people use magnetic strips. 59:49.637 --> 59:53.019 [SPEAKER_03]: I know some people store their knives on magnetic strips. 59:53.699 --> 01:00:09.228 [SPEAKER_03]: I steer clear of those in the shop so I'm never really at the knives I mean while you're in the shop working and like going through the production process right right right right So I mean that could be it for sure But I steer clear that stuff 01:00:11.016 --> 01:00:11.396 [SPEAKER_03]: Interesting. 01:00:12.437 --> 01:00:13.899 [SPEAKER_03]: We also have listener feedback. 01:00:13.939 --> 01:00:17.241 [SPEAKER_03]: If you want a little listener feedback, I'm trying to look at all of all of it. 01:00:17.261 --> 01:00:19.263 [SPEAKER_03]: We did all the damage to all that stuff. 01:00:19.563 --> 01:00:21.045 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's it. 01:00:21.305 --> 01:00:25.468 [SPEAKER_03]: So, listener feedback ladies and germs. 01:00:25.508 --> 01:00:27.530 [SPEAKER_03]: This will, we said the damage to the guys. 01:00:27.550 --> 01:00:31.313 [SPEAKER_03]: If you want to get, if you're at blade show and you want to get be part of the damage to the 01:00:36.918 --> 01:00:40.522 [SPEAKER_03]: And you can get this deal from Damacil.se. 01:00:40.962 --> 01:00:43.084 [SPEAKER_03]: You can get it for a maritime knife supply. 01:00:43.144 --> 01:00:44.526 [SPEAKER_03]: You can try true grid. 01:00:44.546 --> 01:00:46.748 [SPEAKER_03]: And if you're in a state city, you can try true grid. 01:00:46.788 --> 01:00:56.257 [SPEAKER_03]: But if you're going to be at a blade show, go to 12 o'clock on Saturday, and they're going to have some pieces of the, it's called. 01:00:57.238 --> 01:00:59.959 [SPEAKER_03]: Yorman-Gonder, Yorman-Gonder. 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:07.943 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you, the damage you'll build along, everyone starts the same bill and it must create something culinary focused. 01:01:07.983 --> 01:01:09.624 [SPEAKER_03]: If you have any questions, go ask Carly. 01:01:10.124 --> 01:01:11.465 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so that's number one. 01:01:12.025 --> 01:01:14.426 [SPEAKER_03]: Number two is our man, Michael Blacks. 01:01:14.446 --> 01:01:22.010 [SPEAKER_03]: We had a great conversation last week about Legos and whether or not creativity versus kits and free play versus pits. 01:01:22.050 --> 01:01:24.191 [SPEAKER_03]: We had an ice message and Michael Black, our guy. 01:01:24.491 --> 01:01:27.753 [SPEAKER_03]: who started the conversation right, it was, it's all good stuff. 01:01:27.833 --> 01:01:39.901 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't mean, I, I, I, interpreted what he said is I was too afraid to tell you my opinions on Legos and he says, I didn't mean, I didn't mean that you were afraid to say that in front of Morocco. 01:01:40.441 --> 01:01:43.543 [SPEAKER_03]: I meant that it would be worth reading stating just for ensuing conversation. 01:01:44.263 --> 01:01:48.444 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, a good hot take usually makes, uh, makes for some good content as you're well aware. 01:01:48.904 --> 01:01:54.025 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think, I don't think any three of you are afraid to say stuff for every other, which is why I like listening to the show. 01:01:54.445 --> 01:01:57.086 [SPEAKER_03]: You all have great relationships and I appreciate listening it. 01:01:57.786 --> 01:01:58.526 [SPEAKER_03]: Many thanks, sir. 01:01:58.546 --> 01:02:01.787 [SPEAKER_03]: Man, Michael Black, for making a great show for sure, a hundred percent. 01:02:02.727 --> 01:02:06.848 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, do you have any follow-ups on that whole, uh, like, go talk? 01:02:07.508 --> 01:02:12.029 [SPEAKER_02]: No, not really, I think, I, I just, I had thought about it a little bit more, I think. 01:02:12.818 --> 01:02:18.102 [SPEAKER_02]: But any kind of creative endeavor usually has some sort of constraints that you're working with in. 01:02:18.162 --> 01:02:24.948 [SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, if anything, it just kind of completed my position in thinking about it more. 01:02:25.148 --> 01:02:29.571 [SPEAKER_02]: And LEGOs, you are limited by the bricks in a way. 01:02:29.631 --> 01:02:35.936 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think the opportunity for being created with how those bricks are used is pretty. 01:02:37.137 --> 01:02:38.477 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 01:02:38.738 --> 01:02:46.540 [SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I would say, I hesitate to say limitless, but there's a lot of, there's a lot of room for creativity in that. 01:02:46.560 --> 01:02:46.900 [SPEAKER_02]: For sure. 01:02:47.560 --> 01:03:02.244 [SPEAKER_03]: One thing it made me think about was, it made me think about something that happened when I was very young and, you know, I mentioned before that my father was a winemaker and he was one of the, he was a pioneer of white wine in the Hudson Valley in New York and he was really kind of well respected in the 01:03:04.965 --> 01:03:20.970 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was interesting because when his first vintage was 1976, 79, and I remember when I was getting older, I was starting to learn about wine, just talking to him, and we were talking about the profiles of the wine, the flavors, and stuff like that. 01:03:21.350 --> 01:03:26.172 [SPEAKER_03]: And in the early 80s, most white wines were on the dryer side, meaning not a suite. 01:03:26.852 --> 01:03:28.953 [SPEAKER_03]: And I asked him when I was younger. 01:03:28.973 --> 01:03:34.016 [SPEAKER_03]: I said, well, what happens to all the kids who grew up drinking Pepsi and Coke all the time? 01:03:34.556 --> 01:03:38.258 [SPEAKER_03]: Are their tastes going to change because they're used to drinking sweeter things? 01:03:38.858 --> 01:03:42.600 [SPEAKER_03]: And he said, well, I said, you think in the future that we're good, they're going to want sweeter wines. 01:03:42.640 --> 01:03:45.462 [SPEAKER_03]: And he said to me, that's a very interesting conversation. 01:03:45.822 --> 01:03:52.005 [SPEAKER_03]: Because if you're used to drinking sweeter things, you might be more inclined to want sweet sweeter wines. 01:03:52.565 --> 01:04:14.021 [SPEAKER_03]: And that's been the case like to the point where at the time it was at the time when wine coolers came out and people started buying bottles and james wine coolers and it was like a wine soda, you know, and it was like, and now when you look at the profile of the way people drink alcoholic drinks, not necessarily beer, but like people tend to push towards the sweeter stuff. 01:04:14.482 --> 01:04:16.803 [SPEAKER_03]: And what it made me think of is it made me think of how 01:04:17.824 --> 01:04:34.582 [SPEAKER_03]: We're almost, we're almost how Lego has kind of informed us on certain things and then the difference between if the direction is free play or you're just making whatever you want to the point where Now you're just doing these kits or you're just following instructions and how is that going to manifest itself later in life 01:04:35.102 --> 01:04:47.032 [SPEAKER_03]: So, to me, it was an interesting, really interesting topic conversation, and I don't think we're done with it, especially, you know, with the role of AI and how we, you know, how AI is going to affect humanity. 01:04:47.052 --> 01:04:51.256 [SPEAKER_03]: I think that LEGO is a really interesting turning point in terms of how 01:04:57.501 --> 01:05:11.902 [SPEAKER_03]: Because ultimately, when it brings it to the line thing, ultimately, if the end consumer desires something sweeter because they're used to sweeter things than what happens as the line business will kind of, you know, 01:05:12.623 --> 01:05:18.064 [SPEAKER_03]: go towards what the consumer wants, and it seems as though that's the same thing as business though. 01:05:18.124 --> 01:05:25.446 [SPEAKER_03]: Right, because if people are saying we don't want this fucking Harry Potter, like I said, we want a fucking bag of blue bricks. 01:05:26.067 --> 01:05:29.187 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, then Lego, I mean, like I was doing what people want. 01:05:29.207 --> 01:05:31.928 [SPEAKER_03]: They're not, you know, and people don't want the bags of bricks anymore. 01:05:31.948 --> 01:05:32.948 [SPEAKER_03]: They want the kids. 01:05:32.968 --> 01:05:38.270 [SPEAKER_03]: So you're almost pushed, the businesses are almost pushed towards the what the end consumer wants. 01:05:39.130 --> 01:05:50.225 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think a trick for a business is to do what makes sense to make their business successful, but find that balance by also challenging the consumer at the same time. 01:05:50.445 --> 01:05:52.668 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's a tricky thing to do, because I think 01:05:54.248 --> 01:06:00.773 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think a lot of business is what they're doing is trying to find a solution to what people are needing, right? 01:06:01.313 --> 01:06:03.355 [SPEAKER_02]: And that's where a lot of business is based around. 01:06:03.455 --> 01:06:05.937 [SPEAKER_02]: Very few are saying, you need this. 01:06:05.957 --> 01:06:08.219 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't know you need this yet, but you need it. 01:06:08.339 --> 01:06:12.402 [SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to educate you like that's a heart like that's a hard road to take. 01:06:13.647 --> 01:06:17.410 [SPEAKER_02]: But I think there are, they've got to be some examples of that shit out there. 01:06:17.430 --> 01:06:21.913 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, you know, I think it's funny because Lego is a Dutch company. 01:06:22.174 --> 01:06:26.617 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, and you originally, I guess, I'm under the impression of Dutch or Danish or something like that. 01:06:26.797 --> 01:06:27.338 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:06:27.358 --> 01:06:30.140 [SPEAKER_03]: You think that they'd be a little bit more like, no fuck you. 01:06:30.400 --> 01:06:33.442 [SPEAKER_03]: We're not taking on these licensing agreements. 01:06:33.462 --> 01:06:36.465 [SPEAKER_03]: You think that you think that this was an American company was just like, 01:06:37.397 --> 01:06:53.538 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's rake it as much money as possible, you know, fuck whatever you get what but if you think about it from business and like to have all these licensing deals, oh, yeah, continue perpetuate your brand in collaboration with Marvel and yeah, of course, it's stupid you be stupid to say no 01:06:54.058 --> 01:07:20.217 [SPEAKER_02]: right and i think but i do think that they also um they encourage the creative they continue to encourage people's creative in the hope so um and like i said like on their website they have places where they encourage people to come up with their own creative build and then they get voted on and then they get enough votes or win whatever certain competition or whatever then they then that thing goes into production 01:07:20.677 --> 01:07:21.257 [SPEAKER_03]: free labor. 01:07:22.258 --> 01:07:25.339 [SPEAKER_02]: It's I mean it's basically it's free labor. 01:07:25.499 --> 01:07:26.079 [SPEAKER_01]: These come. 01:07:26.580 --> 01:07:27.220 [SPEAKER_01]: These come. 01:07:29.081 --> 01:07:29.721 [SPEAKER_03]: This come. 01:07:29.741 --> 01:07:30.281 [SPEAKER_03]: They're all scum. 01:07:30.301 --> 01:07:33.082 [SPEAKER_03]: When it comes down to like, you get bragging rights. 01:07:33.122 --> 01:07:33.783 [SPEAKER_03]: We get the money. 01:07:34.123 --> 01:07:36.444 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, I mean, get the fuck out here. 01:07:36.464 --> 01:07:45.087 [SPEAKER_03]: So this one comes from our man, Justin, Justin, Lama Roo, rainy day four to send a rain as said to send a 01:07:50.054 --> 01:07:54.535 [SPEAKER_01]: guys just from rainy day for to want to add to the discussion about the gift cards. 01:07:54.955 --> 01:07:57.216 [SPEAKER_01]: I find them a pretty darn handy. 01:07:57.276 --> 01:08:00.557 [SPEAKER_01]: I use them as a way to take deposits on custom orders. 01:08:00.997 --> 01:08:13.560 [SPEAKER_01]: I ask people to go buy 100 bucks or 200 bucks worth of gift cards and then when the knife is ready then I just generate a product that's ready for them and then they could apply the value of the gift cards 01:08:20.558 --> 01:08:21.419 [SPEAKER_03]: Give cards you're good. 01:08:22.780 --> 01:08:25.022 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, if cards you're good, you know, it's happening more. 01:08:25.563 --> 01:08:32.549 [SPEAKER_03]: So it's a top in the conversation we had in regards to whether or not we thought the gift cards were a good idea. 01:08:32.989 --> 01:08:33.230 [SPEAKER_02]: Sure. 01:08:34.130 --> 01:08:35.612 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you think? 01:08:36.112 --> 01:08:36.773 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never done it. 01:08:37.193 --> 01:08:40.937 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know how, I mean, I understand how they work. 01:08:40.957 --> 01:08:44.280 [SPEAKER_02]: I just, I don't know. 01:08:45.388 --> 01:09:02.479 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's, it's, I don't think it fits my, I would have, my current business model, my product offerings, I don't feel like it makes sense for me, but I think I think it's a good idea and if you can figure out how to incorporate it, like I think the way you incorporate it in your business makes perfect sense. 01:09:02.943 --> 01:09:05.506 [SPEAKER_03]: All is great and now we have it we have a digital now. 01:09:05.526 --> 01:09:20.300 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't have to send anything So you can and people buy it them all the time and people are using them all that I mean they're great It is It is stealing from Peter to PayPal, but at the same time it's like, you know That's how life is sometimes as long as you do what you're supposed to do 01:09:21.461 --> 01:09:28.104 [SPEAKER_03]: Um, this one comes from our guy, butch, butch says thanks for the shout out on the podcast. 01:09:28.484 --> 01:09:29.805 [SPEAKER_03]: You guys rule also Jeff. 01:09:30.065 --> 01:09:32.066 [SPEAKER_03]: You have an open invite anytime you want to come to Philly. 01:09:32.826 --> 01:09:35.427 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he opened the doors to Philadelphia for it. 01:09:35.467 --> 01:09:36.307 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, butch. 01:09:36.787 --> 01:09:37.308 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you, butch. 01:09:37.328 --> 01:09:37.988 [SPEAKER_03]: He waiting for you. 01:09:38.048 --> 01:09:40.369 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm now allowed to cross into Philadelphia. 01:09:40.389 --> 01:09:40.969 [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you. 01:09:41.049 --> 01:09:42.190 [SPEAKER_03]: I appreciate that, butch. 01:09:42.290 --> 01:09:43.190 [SPEAKER_03]: You're the man, butch. 01:09:43.210 --> 01:09:44.691 [SPEAKER_02]: That's just one train for you, right? 01:09:44.811 --> 01:09:45.371 [SPEAKER_02]: Straight down. 01:09:45.998 --> 01:09:47.699 [SPEAKER_03]: I, it's also just drive down 95. 01:09:47.899 --> 01:09:49.040 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a deal. 01:09:49.400 --> 01:09:50.661 [SPEAKER_03]: It's not a, it's not a terrible. 01:09:50.941 --> 01:09:51.802 [SPEAKER_03]: Actually it went down there. 01:09:51.882 --> 01:09:53.403 [SPEAKER_03]: I went to this Philly Food Festival. 01:09:53.423 --> 01:09:54.363 [SPEAKER_03]: I had a really good time there. 01:09:54.944 --> 01:09:56.665 [SPEAKER_03]: That's where I met the people from the bear. 01:09:56.985 --> 01:09:57.945 [SPEAKER_03]: And that was a really good time. 01:09:57.985 --> 01:09:58.946 [SPEAKER_03]: And it was an easy drive. 01:09:58.966 --> 01:09:59.546 [SPEAKER_03]: It was easy drive. 01:09:59.566 --> 01:10:00.047 [SPEAKER_03]: Philly's great. 01:10:01.247 --> 01:10:02.468 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't really go down there. 01:10:02.628 --> 01:10:05.170 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't go down there often at all, but when I do, it's good. 01:10:05.530 --> 01:10:08.092 [SPEAKER_03]: This one comes from our man Scott Fernandez for the end of his 4G. 01:10:08.192 --> 01:10:09.814 [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm taking a page out of our boy. 01:10:09.874 --> 01:10:10.995 [SPEAKER_03]: Bingo's book today. 01:10:11.555 --> 01:10:12.396 [SPEAKER_03]: Bingo Knell. 01:10:12.516 --> 01:10:12.916 [SPEAKER_03]: We all know. 01:10:12.956 --> 01:10:13.677 [SPEAKER_03]: Bingo Knell. 01:10:14.377 --> 01:10:19.582 [SPEAKER_03]: He says my boss is on vacation, so I'm at my desk, sharpening knives, getting them ready for a market. 01:10:19.702 --> 01:10:20.943 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm headed to you right after work. 01:10:21.543 --> 01:10:32.730 [SPEAKER_03]: And so our boy Bingo brings his whole shit to his cubicle, and he's making knives on the company dime, and apparently his boss on mine. 01:10:33.790 --> 01:10:39.554 [SPEAKER_03]: I've seen remember he wanted to know if he should give his boss a break or something like that. 01:10:39.574 --> 01:10:40.975 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like give the boss a break. 01:10:41.215 --> 01:10:42.736 [SPEAKER_03]: He should be giving him a fucking free knife. 01:10:43.076 --> 01:10:47.018 [SPEAKER_03]: He should be making knives on his dime and you get a charge him? 01:10:47.318 --> 01:10:48.139 [SPEAKER_03]: That's outrageous. 01:10:49.037 --> 01:10:53.541 [SPEAKER_03]: So, God bless, Bingo. 01:10:53.841 --> 01:10:57.444 [SPEAKER_03]: Labrato forge, I mean, Labrato forge, you know him. 01:10:57.784 --> 01:10:58.585 [SPEAKER_03]: Did he ever do it? 01:10:58.605 --> 01:11:00.366 [SPEAKER_03]: I think he might be a blade show. 01:11:00.847 --> 01:11:03.029 [SPEAKER_03]: If he's a blade show, go say hi to Labrato forge. 01:11:03.049 --> 01:11:10.515 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey guys, there was some discussion on last week's episode about sharpening a tournament or tournament or bird's beak pairing knife. 01:11:10.535 --> 01:11:11.576 [SPEAKER_03]: Do you remember that conversation? 01:11:12.553 --> 01:11:13.834 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I was part of that one. 01:11:13.995 --> 01:11:15.736 [SPEAKER_03]: That was about, you know, this bird beak. 01:11:16.056 --> 01:11:16.917 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know it there. 01:11:17.518 --> 01:11:20.480 [SPEAKER_03]: So in my experience, they can be sharpened in two ways. 01:11:20.681 --> 01:11:22.162 [SPEAKER_03]: Number one on the contact wheel. 01:11:23.277 --> 01:11:27.099 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm wondering if this was, I don't think this was a little problem forage. 01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:30.121 [SPEAKER_03]: I think this was, uh, a minimum stake. 01:11:30.641 --> 01:11:35.284 [SPEAKER_03]: This is, this is, this is, no, this is, no, this is, no, this is, no, this is, no, this is a little broader forage. 01:11:35.304 --> 01:11:36.725 [SPEAKER_03]: Take a two messages about this. 01:11:37.285 --> 01:11:39.327 [SPEAKER_03]: In my experience, they can be sharpened at least two ways. 01:11:39.367 --> 01:11:46.111 [SPEAKER_03]: Number one, in a contact, we'll hold the knife at the appropriate angle and move the blade gradually to hit each pulling of the curve. 01:11:46.171 --> 01:11:47.271 [SPEAKER_03]: Hard to explain about images. 01:11:47.812 --> 01:11:51.774 [SPEAKER_03]: The second way is to sharpen it on the edge of a belt off the platten in the slack. 01:11:51.874 --> 01:11:52.615 [SPEAKER_03]: Keep up the good work. 01:11:53.455 --> 01:12:00.362 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's what I do and then our man total point sharpening has said It's kind of talking about birds beak sharpening. 01:12:00.402 --> 01:12:08.950 [SPEAKER_03]: He says hey guys another way to sharpen birds beak knife is to round the edge of a sharpening stone And sharpen the knife solely on the edge of that stone. 01:12:08.990 --> 01:12:12.173 [SPEAKER_03]: I like to use my torment and round off the right side of the wheel 01:12:12.813 --> 01:12:18.416 [SPEAKER_03]: coarse grit, diamond plates or cheap diamond sharpening stones are really well suited to do the rounding. 01:12:18.917 --> 01:12:31.604 [SPEAKER_03]: The more you round the stone, the smoother the edge you will be, it doesn't need to be a lot, don't use your clamp on the Tormex just freehand it edge trailing like you would on your belt grinder. 01:12:31.684 --> 01:12:33.885 [SPEAKER_03]: Turning your machine around can also make it easier. 01:12:34.325 --> 01:12:40.389 [SPEAKER_03]: When I did this the first time I was worried about messing on my Tormex stone and my diamond stone in the process, but it'll be perfectly fine. 01:12:41.009 --> 01:12:48.792 [SPEAKER_03]: The rounding actually prevents you from accidentally digging the edges of your knives during a lapse in concentration happens So it happens to us all now. 01:12:48.852 --> 01:13:03.259 [SPEAKER_03]: I always chance for a chant chamfer around the edge of my every sharpening stone I use chairs mat from to the point sharpening Now that's some good two ways to do the like that move rounding off your your your stone hitting it from behind. 01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:03.859 [SPEAKER_03]: Hey, yo 01:13:05.232 --> 01:13:11.297 [SPEAKER_02]: Uh, I like, I do edge trailing on a slack belt with a J flex. 01:13:11.598 --> 01:13:12.499 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, no x weight. 01:13:12.539 --> 01:13:21.546 [SPEAKER_02]: No, it has to be a J flex because the flex, especially with the everything tension pretty tight, it'll pull naturally pull the J flex into a kind of curvature. 01:13:22.707 --> 01:13:25.249 [SPEAKER_02]: and, um, or rounded shape. 01:13:25.329 --> 01:13:27.850 [SPEAKER_02]: And so that helps, I find that helps to get in there. 01:13:27.930 --> 01:13:43.900 [SPEAKER_02]: And I also, I make sure the belt, especially for the tornado, I don't usually sharpen with super sharp or fresh belts, um, but with the tornado, you're putting usually to get into, at least for me, when I get into that contour that curve with, um, 01:13:45.854 --> 01:13:59.277 [SPEAKER_02]: With that sharp belt, it allows me to sharpen without a lot of pressure, and that belt's cutting pretty nicely without putting a lot of pressure on it, because the more pressure you put on at the flatten it, the kind of the flatter it gets, so yeah. 01:14:00.224 --> 01:14:00.864 [SPEAKER_02]: I like that a lot. 01:14:01.725 --> 01:14:02.705 [SPEAKER_02]: That's been my move. 01:14:03.085 --> 01:14:04.106 [SPEAKER_03]: I like this slack belt. 01:14:04.466 --> 01:14:10.408 [SPEAKER_03]: The J-Flex slack belt for shopping is a really like, it's a safer way to me for me in terms of just... 01:14:10.448 --> 01:14:11.008 [SPEAKER_03]: In general? 01:14:11.088 --> 01:14:11.389 [SPEAKER_03]: Slow. 01:14:11.849 --> 01:14:12.829 [SPEAKER_03]: For a tornado. 01:14:12.849 --> 01:14:13.669 [SPEAKER_03]: For a tornado. 01:14:13.690 --> 01:14:14.030 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:14:14.170 --> 01:14:15.710 [SPEAKER_03]: For a tornado. 01:14:15.750 --> 01:14:25.714 [SPEAKER_03]: If you don't have it like super taught on your, on your, on your machine and you're able to kind of like, go slow, you can get that burp pretty quick and not be all. 01:14:27.335 --> 01:14:33.838 [SPEAKER_03]: you know, chunky and cutty, you know, like dinghy, you know, like so it's tornado eyes, you do it on a flat or something like that. 01:14:34.338 --> 01:14:36.139 [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to get some, you're going to hit some corners. 01:14:36.699 --> 01:14:36.939 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:14:36.999 --> 01:14:40.141 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think that's what our man was just talking about. 01:14:40.441 --> 01:14:41.781 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:14:42.762 --> 01:14:49.385 [SPEAKER_03]: We got a message from our man, pig iron, pig iron forge. 01:14:50.325 --> 01:14:54.006 [SPEAKER_03]: He says, I don't know who else will appreciate this, but other Smiths. 01:14:54.486 --> 01:14:59.287 [SPEAKER_03]: I had a customer tell me he doesn't buy Damascus knives because they quote, leak carbon. 01:15:00.127 --> 01:15:08.008 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, like he was like in air, he believes that the knife will literally become weaker over time as as the carbon. 01:15:08.109 --> 01:15:11.149 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know evaporates and I'm tired. 01:15:11.469 --> 01:15:12.529 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm so very tired. 01:15:13.450 --> 01:15:15.610 [SPEAKER_03]: That's some fucking do north or shit right there. 01:15:15.810 --> 01:15:17.873 [SPEAKER_02]: That is some due northeership. 01:15:17.893 --> 01:15:19.855 [SPEAKER_03]: That is a fresh ass due northeership. 01:15:19.916 --> 01:15:20.877 [SPEAKER_02]: That's a new one for me. 01:15:20.917 --> 01:15:24.442 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never heard that leaking Damascus leaks carbon. 01:15:24.762 --> 01:15:25.803 [SPEAKER_03]: People just like to talk. 01:15:25.823 --> 01:15:30.730 [SPEAKER_02]: Are they think it's happening in the finished product or during the process? 01:15:31.636 --> 01:15:35.499 [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's after the fact, I think it's like it's wacko. 01:15:35.539 --> 01:15:36.700 [SPEAKER_03]: People are so crazy. 01:15:36.900 --> 01:15:38.141 [SPEAKER_03]: It's that's due north or shit. 01:15:38.241 --> 01:15:39.983 [SPEAKER_03]: That's literally due north or shit. 01:15:40.623 --> 01:15:46.588 [SPEAKER_03]: I do think that you can, if you're cutting like, like lemons and stuff. 01:15:46.608 --> 01:15:51.092 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you can get a metallic flavor on something from a carbon seal knife. 01:15:52.139 --> 01:15:56.441 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, you can leave a little bit of, you know, like, and I don't know, that's a carbon, though. 01:15:56.941 --> 01:15:58.362 [SPEAKER_03]: It's a carbon, it's just a metal. 01:15:58.702 --> 01:15:59.843 [SPEAKER_03]: No, it's just something carbon. 01:16:00.103 --> 01:16:16.310 [SPEAKER_03]: But like, however, I think that also, I think that some people, when they do the coffee finish, maybe they're not using the coffee finish, but some people are getting, I'm getting messages about people getting, not from my eyes, but have seen, you know, black stains on their food. 01:16:17.823 --> 01:16:40.343 [SPEAKER_02]: with her that also well that it can happen but it also happens with a standard edge as well whether it's the gator, piss or if it's a ferret chloride no matter what you're edging with if it's in carbon steel it part a portion of that especially if it's a cooking knife because it's getting used more probably it's gonna kind of come off 01:16:41.302 --> 01:16:57.968 [SPEAKER_02]: in off the blade into the onto the food and yeah I like I like to try to my friend like I try to do a good job of washing my blades after I've aired like so after the coffee edge I rinse them off 01:16:58.908 --> 01:17:11.395 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I blow it dry and then afterwards that that finish is pretty stable to the point that I could gently like I could wash it with a sponge and soap and it's not pulling anything off. 01:17:13.065 --> 01:17:24.840 [SPEAKER_02]: Now, that doesn't mean that acid, like cutting acidic food, like a lemon or onion or just something else isn't going to potentially cause some of that, but that's, unfortunately, part of the nature of a carbon steel knife. 01:17:24.900 --> 01:17:31.228 [SPEAKER_02]: And which is why I like using or finishing my etches with or doing my etches with coffee. 01:17:31.648 --> 01:17:36.073 [SPEAKER_02]: because I know that it's a food safe product, even though that's probably not. 01:17:36.433 --> 01:17:41.038 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to eat obviously large quantities of that off of the plate or whatever. 01:17:41.679 --> 01:17:47.905 [SPEAKER_02]: It's coming from something that is food safe, but once everything's neutralized, it all should be pretty safe. 01:17:49.867 --> 01:17:51.348 [SPEAKER_02]: and not really concern. 01:17:51.748 --> 01:17:54.370 [SPEAKER_02]: It's when it's still kind of like in its liquid form. 01:17:54.390 --> 01:18:00.994 [SPEAKER_02]: Like even the instant coffee at the concentrations that we're doing the etching at, you don't want to be consuming that. 01:18:01.014 --> 01:18:03.395 [SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be shooting your pants almost instantaneously. 01:18:07.037 --> 01:18:08.019 [SPEAKER_02]: Now that would be bad. 01:18:08.039 --> 01:18:09.020 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it would be very bad. 01:18:09.461 --> 01:18:15.650 [SPEAKER_03]: Here's the problem with a do-northorship, and do-northorship is a slur for people who think they know about knife-making. 01:18:15.990 --> 01:18:16.251 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 01:18:17.653 --> 01:18:22.560 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not as unapologetic slur for some of these packs. 01:18:23.381 --> 01:18:26.003 [SPEAKER_03]: I, this past week, I never do this. 01:18:26.023 --> 01:18:26.763 [SPEAKER_03]: You know how I am. 01:18:26.783 --> 01:18:27.764 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't fight online. 01:18:27.784 --> 01:18:29.025 [SPEAKER_03]: I, I don't fight for free. 01:18:29.105 --> 01:18:31.667 [SPEAKER_03]: My whole thing is like, you know what I mean? 01:18:31.707 --> 01:18:32.047 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:18:32.067 --> 01:18:32.267 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:18:32.427 --> 01:18:36.350 [SPEAKER_03]: It's too much of a waste of energy if I'm going to be just like getting mad at someone for nothing. 01:18:36.510 --> 01:18:37.671 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, just don't make any sense. 01:18:38.391 --> 01:18:40.833 [SPEAKER_03]: And here's the craziest part about the Doon Northern stuff. 01:18:41.513 --> 01:18:48.098 [SPEAKER_03]: I got tagged in the post on Facebook by this chef, friend of mine, who has got my knives and he's using 01:18:49.084 --> 01:18:51.205 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, does he do a little rage bait? 01:18:51.505 --> 01:18:54.827 [SPEAKER_03]: Nah, but a little bit of like, he wants a little bit. 01:18:55.007 --> 01:18:56.328 [SPEAKER_03]: Just a little bit of rage bait. 01:18:56.348 --> 01:18:57.329 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what rage bait is? 01:18:57.449 --> 01:19:01.291 [SPEAKER_03]: Rage bait is, you know what, who does the rage bait? 01:19:01.491 --> 01:19:03.672 [SPEAKER_03]: On her calculator, he does a lot of rage bait. 01:19:03.692 --> 01:19:03.852 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure. 01:19:04.433 --> 01:19:17.961 [SPEAKER_03]: Uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh 01:19:18.881 --> 01:19:23.442 [SPEAKER_03]: So you put a picture of my knife in it because I got to cut a lot of these tomatoes how long you think it's going to take. 01:19:25.142 --> 01:19:35.644 [SPEAKER_03]: And people were piling on and they were saying, you know, you don't want to talk to you but I can't believe they call you a chef all that stuff and then every so often they would say it's with that knife to take you forever. 01:19:36.324 --> 01:19:39.385 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, whoa, what are you talking about? 01:19:39.425 --> 01:19:45.566 [SPEAKER_03]: And the one guy goes, one guy goes, so I wrote, so I'm meaning like now I'm now invested. 01:19:46.006 --> 01:19:46.566 [SPEAKER_03]: So now I wrote. 01:19:46.999 --> 01:19:48.180 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, what's wrong with that knife? 01:19:48.780 --> 01:19:52.301 [SPEAKER_03]: And then another guy writes, another guy writes, I wouldn't use that knife. 01:19:52.501 --> 01:19:55.823 [SPEAKER_03]: If you cut tomatoes, the acid is going to ruin the blade. 01:19:57.563 --> 01:19:58.804 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, fucking stainless steel knife. 01:20:00.245 --> 01:20:06.267 [SPEAKER_03]: Like, so I wrote, so I write, so I write, I just talked to the manufacturer, that's not a problem. 01:20:06.387 --> 01:20:07.468 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I have to talk about that. 01:20:08.028 --> 01:20:09.108 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, we're about the acid. 01:20:09.128 --> 01:20:10.909 [SPEAKER_03]: We find you cut some tomatoes at that fucking knife. 01:20:11.609 --> 01:20:12.570 [SPEAKER_03]: And then another guy writes, 01:20:13.445 --> 01:20:15.927 [SPEAKER_03]: With that $600 knife, you must be kidding. 01:20:16.468 --> 01:20:17.649 [SPEAKER_03]: And I wrote, who said $600? 01:20:19.824 --> 01:20:21.305 [SPEAKER_03]: I talked to the fucking guy, I sent it. 01:20:21.705 --> 01:20:26.387 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, did they have to pay a lot in tariffs? 01:20:26.467 --> 01:20:28.108 [SPEAKER_03]: Or $200 with the tariffs and customs? 01:20:28.388 --> 01:20:31.149 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's not a $200, they're a $200, right? 01:20:31.630 --> 01:20:37.092 [SPEAKER_03]: So I got, and then every single one of the people who I addressed, and I didn't say it in like a dick way. 01:20:37.773 --> 01:20:41.154 [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't say like, take that dude north or shit and show it up your ass. 01:20:41.735 --> 01:20:43.335 [SPEAKER_03]: I was just like, well that's not true. 01:20:43.595 --> 01:20:44.656 [SPEAKER_03]: And here's the reason why. 01:20:44.676 --> 01:20:46.197 [SPEAKER_03]: And I didn't give him the magnet card either. 01:20:46.797 --> 01:20:51.460 [SPEAKER_03]: They're all like, every single one of them were like, yeah, you would know, I'm sorry, you're right. 01:20:52.241 --> 01:21:02.008 [SPEAKER_03]: Or along those lines, they're just like backing down from their bold statement and then, and say, and I don't normally do it, but I was just like, I thought it'd be funny if I said, yeah, I talked to a manufacturer. 01:21:02.228 --> 01:21:03.609 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm the fucking manufacturer. 01:21:04.610 --> 01:21:09.493 [SPEAKER_03]: And this is the problem with the do-northorship. 01:21:09.994 --> 01:21:14.917 [SPEAKER_03]: People have the license to say whatever the hell they want, whether they're right or wrong. 01:21:15.903 --> 01:21:20.908 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's almost like this, it's almost like this screaming out in the wilderness. 01:21:21.328 --> 01:21:22.489 [SPEAKER_03]: Shit, it's almost like this. 01:21:23.010 --> 01:21:30.297 [SPEAKER_03]: I need to project as loudly and as obnoxiously and as free as I can, whether it's right or wrong. 01:21:30.677 --> 01:21:40.106 [SPEAKER_03]: And then you end up with this like, it's like a hitting a hornet's nest of nonsense and energy is time wasted. 01:21:40.907 --> 01:21:44.350 [SPEAKER_03]: It's hilarious, but at the same time it's like this is where that do North or shit comes from. 01:21:44.891 --> 01:21:46.572 [SPEAKER_03]: Like people just say whatever the fuck they want. 01:21:47.133 --> 01:21:51.116 [SPEAKER_03]: And the next thing you know, they're like, oh yeah, you are right. 01:21:51.156 --> 01:21:55.781 [SPEAKER_03]: Meanwhile, 15 guys are standing around saying we better quench do North. 01:21:56.662 --> 01:22:02.727 [SPEAKER_03]: Otherwise the knives are going to be warped, because the magnetic field in earth Jesus Christ. 01:22:04.368 --> 01:22:05.229 [SPEAKER_03]: it's exhausting. 01:22:05.529 --> 01:22:06.330 [SPEAKER_02]: It is exhausting. 01:22:06.890 --> 01:22:15.517 [SPEAKER_03]: I feel like there should be some sort of rules and regulations in regards to who's allowed to be on the internet. 01:22:15.597 --> 01:22:18.300 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the internet's designed for the rage baiting. 01:22:19.240 --> 01:22:22.863 [SPEAKER_02]: I hate the rage baiting. 01:22:23.604 --> 01:22:24.465 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very good at it. 01:22:24.585 --> 01:22:26.726 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm very like, I'm very good. 01:22:26.746 --> 01:22:27.847 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel the need to. 01:22:29.174 --> 01:22:37.759 [SPEAKER_03]: To I know that anything you say is is a little bit of like I want this smoke, right? 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:42.382 [SPEAKER_03]: If you say anything, you're just like, I'm looking for a fight, you know? 01:22:42.982 --> 01:22:44.583 [SPEAKER_03]: And it's like, are you though? 01:22:45.003 --> 01:22:48.065 [SPEAKER_03]: Can't you just walk down the street without having to pick a fight with somebody? 01:22:48.225 --> 01:22:49.546 [SPEAKER_03]: You have to pick a fight online? 01:22:50.486 --> 01:22:51.847 [SPEAKER_03]: This is how it's gonna be. 01:22:52.467 --> 01:22:53.707 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not never forgetting this at woman. 01:22:53.907 --> 01:22:58.069 [SPEAKER_03]: She's gonna she's like a grandmother with kids She's like with that knife. 01:22:58.549 --> 01:23:00.029 [SPEAKER_03]: You'll never get through half of them. 01:23:00.229 --> 01:23:02.550 [SPEAKER_03]: What are you talking about? 01:23:03.210 --> 01:23:04.111 [SPEAKER_03]: What do you mean grandma? 01:23:04.131 --> 01:23:14.614 [SPEAKER_03]: She's a fucking genius don't you grandma grandma you just look at it something and then coming to it very slightly hurtful conclusion 01:23:21.990 --> 01:23:24.992 [SPEAKER_03]: Question mark, exclamation point, question mark, exclamation point. 01:23:25.512 --> 01:23:26.733 [SPEAKER_03]: It's like, are you crazy? 01:23:27.833 --> 01:23:28.974 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh God bless it. 01:23:29.134 --> 01:23:30.755 [SPEAKER_03]: I swear to God, these people are unbelievable. 01:23:30.875 --> 01:23:37.338 [SPEAKER_03]: But I think to myself, I'm like, and I shouldn't have said anything, but I thought, yeah, you know what, say a little sum. 01:23:38.059 --> 01:23:38.259 [SPEAKER_03]: When? 01:23:38.831 --> 01:23:39.232 [SPEAKER_03]: Why not? 01:23:39.632 --> 01:23:41.755 [SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of them are bots, which was annoying too. 01:23:42.416 --> 01:23:44.218 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to say one last thing. 01:23:44.258 --> 01:23:46.461 [SPEAKER_03]: If you add Bladeshow, go see our friends at Tormic. 01:23:46.881 --> 01:23:52.708 [SPEAKER_03]: I think Carl and I'm not sure if Sebastian is going to be there but Carl and Jack will probably be there with David. 01:23:53.169 --> 01:23:56.133 [SPEAKER_03]: They're great guys, Dave's awesome and so is Carl. 01:23:58.235 --> 01:24:04.441 [SPEAKER_03]: If you are at play show, even if you're not going to buy a tourmak, go over to the tourmak guys and say we love that you support the knife talk. 01:24:04.921 --> 01:24:06.322 [SPEAKER_03]: Say that's all of our sponsors. 01:24:06.362 --> 01:24:15.370 [SPEAKER_03]: If you see our sponsors say, listen to you, I hear all about you on the knife talk and Morocco, Jeff and Craig say such nice things about you. 01:24:15.510 --> 01:24:16.371 [SPEAKER_03]: Say that. 01:24:16.731 --> 01:24:20.194 [SPEAKER_03]: And then go to our sponsors say, the boys say you have something for me. 01:24:21.335 --> 01:24:28.118 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, here's the one person you have to go if you see him at the blade show you have to go up to him and say I here you have something for me. 01:24:28.458 --> 01:24:37.441 [SPEAKER_03]: That's will stilter if you see will stilter You see will stilter blade show say Jeff Merekon Craig says you have something for me so 01:24:38.601 --> 01:24:39.002 [SPEAKER_03]: That's it. 01:24:39.683 --> 01:24:40.524 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what do you want to do? 01:24:40.544 --> 01:24:44.110 [SPEAKER_03]: You want to just fuck around and get out of here at any last minute or things? 01:24:45.071 --> 01:24:46.233 [SPEAKER_03]: I got a message. 01:24:46.253 --> 01:24:51.080 [SPEAKER_03]: I have to get a knife sharpened as a gift in the next hour. 01:24:51.501 --> 01:24:51.821 [SPEAKER_03]: Okay. 01:24:52.182 --> 01:24:52.923 [SPEAKER_02]: I just don't know. 01:24:53.684 --> 01:24:57.728 [SPEAKER_02]: I think, well, so this episode is coming out the Monday before Blade Show. 01:24:57.788 --> 01:24:58.009 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 01:24:58.269 --> 01:25:04.616 [SPEAKER_02]: And I think you, well, what's, what's happening for next week, actually, because Well, you'll probably have Blade Show. 01:25:04.716 --> 01:25:08.140 [SPEAKER_03]: Well, but I, we're going to, I'm probably going to record with Craig on Thursday. 01:25:08.700 --> 01:25:09.861 [SPEAKER_03]: Unless you will. 01:25:09.961 --> 01:25:12.043 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, right because you don't fly until sunset. 01:25:12.063 --> 01:25:12.403 [SPEAKER_02]: Sunday. 01:25:12.783 --> 01:25:24.212 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so if you're around if you're around Thursday And you want to record We could do that or I'll just be or I want to be the pressure the Craig's and be extra funny So Bucking up seat belts ladies and gentlemen. 01:25:24.513 --> 01:25:27.375 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm ready for Hey, I'm Craig. 01:25:27.415 --> 01:25:28.196 [SPEAKER_02]: It's your luck. 01:25:28.236 --> 01:25:29.236 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's odd. 01:25:29.437 --> 01:25:31.118 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I love Craig's sense of humor 01:25:33.128 --> 01:25:47.332 [SPEAKER_02]: It's not going to work probably for the next episode, but when we were talking about the do's and don'ts on all the dumb shit we've seen people do and shit like that, I would be curious to get some reports back from people who went to Blade Show about the dumb shit you saw people do. 01:25:47.832 --> 01:25:48.113 [SPEAKER_02]: Come up. 01:25:48.153 --> 01:25:53.434 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to see your do's and I want to know your do's and don'ts not for the next week, but for the week after. 01:25:53.454 --> 01:25:55.095 [SPEAKER_03]: I want to kill count. 01:25:55.735 --> 01:25:56.315 [SPEAKER_03]: Kill counts. 01:25:56.815 --> 01:25:58.696 [SPEAKER_02]: I want to know how to walk around with the clicker. 01:26:00.036 --> 01:26:05.661 [SPEAKER_03]: See, I want to know how many kills you see at Bladeshow and these are the traditional Tard kills. 01:26:06.142 --> 01:26:10.846 [SPEAKER_03]: These are like, these are some sort of excuse to have your balls hanging out. 01:26:11.166 --> 01:26:13.008 [SPEAKER_03]: You don't know why anybody would want it. 01:26:13.028 --> 01:26:14.269 [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I don't want it. 01:26:14.309 --> 01:26:15.450 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want it. 01:26:15.510 --> 01:26:16.691 [SPEAKER_02]: You don't want it. 01:26:16.771 --> 01:26:18.012 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why you would want it. 01:26:18.112 --> 01:26:26.940 [SPEAKER_03]: You're just your, it seems like, it seems like the least tactical uniform you could wear is a killed. 01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:28.821 [SPEAKER_03]: God bless the scots. 01:26:28.841 --> 01:26:41.389 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they obviously know what they're talking about, but like if you're some dude from like Nebraska You're just chillin with your your kill with like command opocates on it You know that's what they have, right? 01:26:41.409 --> 01:26:46.252 [SPEAKER_03]: The tactic kills and that's what they call up But what's your boss with cargo with like a cargo back? 01:26:46.372 --> 01:26:53.957 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, and built in for us like you have a nut You have pockets for your you've pockets for everything except for your balls 01:26:56.213 --> 01:26:57.414 [SPEAKER_02]: You shouldn't have a ball pocket. 01:26:57.434 --> 01:26:58.014 [SPEAKER_03]: Just okay. 01:26:58.174 --> 01:27:01.516 [SPEAKER_03]: If you were in your kill, you cannot be wearing underwear, right? 01:27:01.876 --> 01:27:02.736 [SPEAKER_03]: Isn't that part of the thing? 01:27:02.757 --> 01:27:06.838 [SPEAKER_02]: That sounds so fucking creepy because there's so many like kids walking around the shows. 01:27:07.519 --> 01:27:08.379 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing. 01:27:08.579 --> 01:27:09.180 [SPEAKER_03]: That's the thing. 01:27:09.280 --> 01:27:11.461 [SPEAKER_03]: If you, this is God bless the Scott. 01:27:11.481 --> 01:27:14.562 [SPEAKER_03]: Scott's must be the Scottish people must be the toughest people on earth. 01:27:14.902 --> 01:27:19.865 [SPEAKER_03]: Because you were wearing a wool-ass tart and kill with you rubbing your dick against it. 01:27:20.645 --> 01:27:21.806 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand how you do it. 01:27:21.826 --> 01:27:22.787 [SPEAKER_02]: Problem number one. 01:27:23.107 --> 01:27:23.848 [SPEAKER_03]: Problem number one. 01:27:23.948 --> 01:27:25.029 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how you do it. 01:27:25.469 --> 01:27:26.250 [SPEAKER_03]: God bless you. 01:27:27.050 --> 01:27:29.572 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I mean, I mean, I don't imagine if it was me. 01:27:29.592 --> 01:27:30.933 [SPEAKER_03]: I don't imagine what's changed. 01:27:31.194 --> 01:27:33.335 [SPEAKER_03]: And I got a red rash on the top of my wiener. 01:27:33.776 --> 01:27:34.556 [SPEAKER_03]: You know what I'm saying? 01:27:35.016 --> 01:27:38.839 [SPEAKER_03]: And God bless all you guys in the, if you're in Blade Show and you weren't a kill. 01:27:40.441 --> 01:27:41.121 [SPEAKER_03]: God bless you. 01:27:41.361 --> 01:27:41.762 [SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, 01:27:43.133 --> 01:27:45.395 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the first thing I'd go is for the balls. 01:27:45.976 --> 01:27:46.857 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, AO. 01:27:47.237 --> 01:27:48.258 [SPEAKER_03]: Sorry, pause. 01:27:49.419 --> 01:27:50.860 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like a kick. 01:27:50.880 --> 01:27:54.243 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you're going to go into this region. 01:27:54.644 --> 01:27:55.965 [SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't do that. 01:27:56.065 --> 01:28:00.089 [SPEAKER_03]: That's really irresponsible. 01:28:00.469 --> 01:28:01.170 [SPEAKER_03]: Don't be reaching. 01:28:01.710 --> 01:28:02.832 [SPEAKER_03]: But I want to kill account. 01:28:03.712 --> 01:28:07.276 [SPEAKER_03]: So if you see some kills, give me account, full count. 01:28:08.237 --> 01:28:12.968 [SPEAKER_02]: All right, so do some doubts that you've learned from this year's show and killed count. 01:28:13.272 --> 01:28:22.354 [SPEAKER_03]: You gotta go, you gotta go send some, send some love to our man, Marreco, go to the class, go say hello, learn about everything you need to do. 01:28:22.374 --> 01:28:27.815 [SPEAKER_03]: You need to get a lot out of that, ask the questions and when you ask the questions, you say, hey man, can I ask you a question? 01:28:28.195 --> 01:28:41.599 [SPEAKER_03]: You're definitely gonna go to the Damasteel booth at 12 o'clock on Saturday and see Carly and everybody over there and then Lawrence is gonna be there and Marreco's gonna be there and I wish I was gonna be there. 01:28:43.802 --> 01:28:44.184 [SPEAKER_03]: Highly. 01:28:45.071 --> 01:28:49.452 [SPEAKER_03]: So maybe you can, maybe you can, you may be on Saturday at 12. 01:28:49.472 --> 01:28:50.512 [SPEAKER_03]: You could face time me. 01:28:50.632 --> 01:28:52.272 [SPEAKER_03]: Maybe I'll do face time. 01:28:52.513 --> 01:28:55.013 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll be doing a group picture and I'll make sure you're on this screen. 01:28:55.033 --> 01:28:55.873 [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah. 01:28:55.893 --> 01:28:56.353 [SPEAKER_03]: I'll work. 01:28:56.373 --> 01:28:57.654 [SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we're killed. 01:28:57.674 --> 01:28:58.094 [SPEAKER_02]: Perfect. 01:28:58.334 --> 01:28:58.634 [SPEAKER_03]: All right. 01:28:58.714 --> 01:28:59.854 [SPEAKER_03]: We've said enough, guys. 01:29:00.194 --> 01:29:00.794 [SPEAKER_03]: We've said enough. 01:29:01.134 --> 01:29:02.875 [SPEAKER_03]: Have a great time at Blade Show. 01:29:03.215 --> 01:29:04.415 [SPEAKER_03]: We're just joking. 01:29:04.475 --> 01:29:05.135 [SPEAKER_03]: It's all good. 01:29:05.175 --> 01:29:06.415 [SPEAKER_03]: We're with you 100%. 01:29:06.755 --> 01:29:12.697 [SPEAKER_03]: If you want to send messages to knife talk to the knife talk podcast on Instagram, that's where you can interact with the show. 01:29:14.659 --> 01:29:17.374 [SPEAKER_03]: Next week, have a great time, Raccoon. 01:29:17.897 --> 01:29:18.239 [SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.