WEBVTT 00:01.080 --> 00:02.781 [SPEAKER_02]: I got stuff for you. 00:03.121 --> 00:03.942 [SPEAKER_02]: Holy moly. 00:04.182 --> 00:06.363 [SPEAKER_02]: I need to get some snakes and release them around my house. 00:06.643 --> 00:07.443 [SPEAKER_02]: But I love eat people. 00:08.184 --> 00:08.904 [SPEAKER_02]: I love eat kids. 00:09.304 --> 00:12.686 [SPEAKER_04]: These guys are the scientists of the supernatural. 00:13.226 --> 00:16.368 [SPEAKER_04]: Lecturers leaving lessons for inquiring laymen. 00:17.048 --> 00:21.131 [SPEAKER_04]: They are applying the scientific myth that do a world that baffle signs. 00:21.791 --> 00:24.412 [SPEAKER_04]: They are the cryptids of the corn. 00:25.333 --> 00:27.354 [SPEAKER_01]: Every day, the European mouth. 00:27.754 --> 00:28.435 [SPEAKER_01]: I know, right? 00:28.795 --> 00:31.118 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm more convinced you're a bunch of aliens. 00:31.438 --> 00:31.738 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 00:32.800 --> 00:34.181 [SPEAKER_03]: And it just stood up. 00:35.282 --> 00:36.904 [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it just kept going. 00:37.324 --> 00:38.025 [SPEAKER_03]: And go on. 00:38.846 --> 00:40.648 [SPEAKER_03]: And she goes, what the fuck? 00:40.668 --> 00:41.329 [SPEAKER_02]: These are idiots. 00:41.689 --> 00:44.592 [SPEAKER_02]: I was laughing reading this because I already knew how you would feel. 00:44.732 --> 00:45.093 [SPEAKER_02]: Idiot. 00:45.673 --> 00:46.413 [SPEAKER_02]: What's the story? 00:46.433 --> 00:47.614 [SPEAKER_02]: It fits your balloon. 00:48.094 --> 00:49.514 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this isn't a UFO. 00:49.835 --> 00:52.776 [SPEAKER_01]: But who else has big black wings and red eyes? 00:53.556 --> 00:54.576 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, Batman. 00:55.136 --> 00:55.837 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, mock man. 00:56.077 --> 00:56.817 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, mock man. 00:56.917 --> 01:01.299 [SPEAKER_00]: Well, everyone, I think we know it's definitely what it is. 01:02.159 --> 01:03.619 [SPEAKER_00]: So say it all with me. 01:04.340 --> 01:07.001 [SPEAKER_00]: It was a sandville crane. 01:07.361 --> 01:08.001 [SPEAKER_02]: Would you try it? 01:08.221 --> 01:08.461 [SPEAKER_02]: No. 01:08.741 --> 01:09.281 [SPEAKER_02]: You wouldn't need it? 01:09.522 --> 01:09.742 [SPEAKER_01]: No. 01:09.882 --> 01:10.182 [SPEAKER_01]: Why? 01:10.482 --> 01:11.722 [SPEAKER_01]: Because they're probably toxic. 01:12.122 --> 01:13.343 [SPEAKER_01]: There'd be a lot of poop in my face. 01:15.327 --> 01:18.348 [SPEAKER_01]: I've seen a six foot alligator go swing into the air and slam into a tree. 01:24.049 --> 01:25.010 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey, welcome back. 01:25.030 --> 01:25.910 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going back to you guys. 01:25.950 --> 01:28.111 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm the great and powerful mystery. 01:28.371 --> 01:29.631 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm Jay clone to 20. 01:30.371 --> 01:31.031 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:31.151 --> 01:33.092 [SPEAKER_01]: What's what what's is today? 01:33.812 --> 01:34.992 [SPEAKER_01]: The portal to hell episode. 01:35.273 --> 01:36.073 [SPEAKER_01]: Satan's hollow. 01:36.633 --> 01:37.053 [SPEAKER_01]: Is that a. 01:37.733 --> 01:39.254 [SPEAKER_02]: Today wins a. Yeah. 01:39.754 --> 01:39.994 [SPEAKER_02]: It is. 01:40.254 --> 01:40.794 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 01:40.814 --> 01:41.334 [SPEAKER_02]: Just make sure. 01:42.315 --> 01:43.815 [SPEAKER_02]: Make sure we're on the same page. 01:44.193 --> 01:50.095 [SPEAKER_01]: Nope, so I found a little short thing from a place where Emily's family is from. 01:51.275 --> 01:52.876 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, right in your blue ash. 01:54.176 --> 02:01.879 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, right outside Cincinnati, right we have one of our fellow listeners right outside it right in blue ash who lives in blue ash. 02:02.219 --> 02:05.280 [SPEAKER_02]: Someone on our that was on our D&D campaign. 02:06.060 --> 02:07.241 [SPEAKER_02]: He was a little drummer boy. 02:08.961 --> 02:10.442 [SPEAKER_02]: He didn't know that he's from blue ash. 02:11.007 --> 02:11.968 [SPEAKER_01]: Who are you talking about? 02:12.028 --> 02:13.849 [SPEAKER_02]: Our drummer boy on the D&D campaign. 02:13.969 --> 02:15.050 [SPEAKER_02]: Kevin's from Blue Ash? 02:15.070 --> 02:15.430 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 02:15.791 --> 02:15.911 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh. 02:16.591 --> 02:17.412 [SPEAKER_02]: Shout out to Kevin. 02:20.134 --> 02:20.614 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Kevin. 02:21.035 --> 02:21.956 [SPEAKER_01]: He's in Blue Ash? 02:22.056 --> 02:22.296 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 02:23.457 --> 02:24.117 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember that. 02:24.598 --> 02:28.220 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why I do, but I think because he told me like twice. 02:28.280 --> 02:30.922 [SPEAKER_02]: And for some reason, I can see a picture saying it to me. 02:31.243 --> 02:31.843 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a stock. 02:32.203 --> 02:32.304 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm. 02:33.845 --> 02:35.926 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this comes from the Ohio Project website. 02:35.946 --> 02:36.767 [SPEAKER_01]: So do you go check them out. 02:36.787 --> 02:37.788 [SPEAKER_01]: They got a bunch of cool stuff. 02:38.168 --> 02:46.371 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but the author of the Ohio project website had this story sent to them and everything like that. 02:46.511 --> 02:47.792 [SPEAKER_01]: So I found it's neat articles. 02:47.812 --> 02:49.513 [SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to talk about that because I live in the area. 02:49.733 --> 02:49.993 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 02:50.753 --> 02:52.374 [SPEAKER_01]: Blue ash in the portal to hell. 02:53.214 --> 02:53.634 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 02:53.654 --> 02:55.235 [SPEAKER_01]: Also known as Satan's hollow. 02:56.896 --> 03:00.437 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's not all the nuclear reactive material that they shot into the ground there. 03:01.564 --> 03:08.571 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it a like a mells whole portal or like a like a between two trees interdimensional like slip 03:12.152 --> 03:25.423 [SPEAKER_01]: And he says, when I was growing up in the Cincinnati suburbs, I remember hearing occasional playground talk about a mysterious portal to hell in the nearby suburb of Bluehash, they said it was in the tunnel where it cave. 03:26.604 --> 03:30.908 [SPEAKER_01]: They said it was a place where Satanist meant to summon the devil himself. 03:31.708 --> 03:36.472 [SPEAKER_01]: Dark magic was practiced there, including live goat in human sacrifices. 03:37.473 --> 03:43.727 [SPEAKER_01]: If someone were to venture too far into the tunnels, a demon would devour their soul. 03:44.729 --> 03:45.110 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 03:45.811 --> 03:46.613 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that sounds terrible. 03:47.953 --> 03:54.095 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's specifically, it's the sewer system, the wastewater system, which is massive in Cincinnati. 03:54.395 --> 03:56.896 [SPEAKER_01]: That is what they're talking about, or is it some kind of cave system? 03:57.516 --> 04:11.420 [SPEAKER_01]: So originally, it's, it is severely talking about that there was people going into the sewer system, the wastewater treatment of the rain system, and you like, there may be a cave or something in there, yeah, but using that network, because it's massive and like, 04:13.001 --> 04:21.684 [SPEAKER_02]: So I'll tell you they're big, which is wild and it's not, since 90's not the only place like every major city has an elaborate sewer system. 04:22.245 --> 04:23.285 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, most of them, I guess. 04:23.885 --> 04:27.207 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them you can't walk through. 04:27.227 --> 04:27.967 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 04:28.488 --> 04:31.589 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them are really small or mostly always underwater. 04:31.809 --> 04:55.764 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever seen the ones that are there like brick lined and they're like yeah huge like I just told you I've taken a boat and it is a yeah in Cincinnati yeah but I know I worked on the ones in Chicago I worked on the ones out in Pennsylvania, because in my old line of work we've dealt with storm surge water systems like very often I just think it's kind of wild how how. 04:57.263 --> 04:58.746 [SPEAKER_02]: these things were built in the past. 04:59.487 --> 05:02.853 [SPEAKER_02]: And now it's just like, well, we don't build them that strong at all anymore. 05:02.893 --> 05:04.816 [SPEAKER_02]: Like they used to built the last time. 05:05.357 --> 05:09.905 [SPEAKER_02]: But two that were just so huge and elaborate back then, so there wasn't as much people live in there. 05:10.026 --> 05:10.446 [SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean? 05:11.063 --> 05:35.340 [SPEAKER_01]: There's kind of a twofold reason why is it the technology's come a long way of moving water like storm surge water out of the way so you don't need the old way of doing it was building just massive massive ironized channels is what they're called like if you look out west and stuff like that because the flood like they don't get a lot of rain right where they get flash flooding so they got to divert the flooding immediately so they just build literally these highway sized 05:36.841 --> 05:37.902 [SPEAKER_01]: of ironized ditches. 05:38.062 --> 05:39.464 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right, right, right, right. 05:39.544 --> 05:41.586 [SPEAKER_01]: And then they have a massive underground stuff. 05:42.047 --> 05:44.770 [SPEAKER_01]: And then we should put rivers underneath towns and stuff like that. 05:44.810 --> 05:47.953 [SPEAKER_01]: Leg and Lima, they put the auglies underneath the town for mile. 05:48.674 --> 05:49.115 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that. 05:49.135 --> 05:56.202 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it kills the, it's essentially a separation now because the fish can't make it underneath and stuff like that. 05:56.503 --> 05:57.384 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I didn't know that. 05:57.984 --> 06:08.472 [SPEAKER_01]: So, if you go to older cities and towns and areas, their way of doing it was just to build a massive tunnel oversized a lot of the times to make sure that they wouldn't have problems with it. 06:08.833 --> 06:10.294 [SPEAKER_02]: Or do they inherit the tunnels? 06:10.821 --> 06:11.421 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so. 06:11.441 --> 06:17.364 [SPEAKER_01]: And then a lot of the brick ones that we've been around have like collapses in them or like or close to claps. 06:17.504 --> 06:17.744 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 06:18.204 --> 06:19.625 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they are not stable. 06:21.626 --> 06:23.807 [SPEAKER_01]: And the old way of doing it to was moving rivers. 06:24.647 --> 06:24.847 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 06:24.927 --> 06:27.868 [SPEAKER_01]: Like the blanchered here is like 450 miles outside of its bank. 06:29.893 --> 06:31.636 [SPEAKER_02]: they stretch it out and made it straight. 06:31.656 --> 06:34.240 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then put a big loop in it now it floods even worse. 06:34.260 --> 06:36.063 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, floods every time it rains. 06:36.163 --> 06:42.933 [SPEAKER_01]: So the technology in the thinking and the science behind storm surging like management has become a long way. 06:43.534 --> 06:44.396 [SPEAKER_01]: So you don't need this. 06:45.417 --> 06:55.182 [SPEAKER_01]: It's better, how to explain this, it's like computer chips, I guess, would be a good example of like the old style ones were massive right because that's the only way we could figure out now. 06:55.202 --> 06:57.603 [SPEAKER_01]: We've gotten better of dealing with it with smaller space. 06:57.943 --> 07:00.705 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess so, I don't know if I fully subscribe. 07:01.445 --> 07:02.125 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know why. 07:02.526 --> 07:03.306 [SPEAKER_02]: Just cause I don't. 07:03.566 --> 07:05.167 [SPEAKER_02]: And a lot of them are misrepid. 07:05.447 --> 07:05.667 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 07:06.208 --> 07:09.269 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them like have slip like slip drains in them and stuff like that. 07:09.289 --> 07:10.310 [SPEAKER_01]: So they're always under water. 07:10.870 --> 07:12.251 [SPEAKER_01]: Like they're impossible to people. 07:12.791 --> 07:12.971 [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm. 07:13.667 --> 07:14.547 [SPEAKER_01]: Now modern ones. 07:15.068 --> 07:18.509 [SPEAKER_01]: So like yeah, Chicago for example, the newer systems and stuff like that. 07:18.889 --> 07:20.310 [SPEAKER_01]: They don't have any exposed air. 07:22.510 --> 07:22.951 [SPEAKER_01]: Which is good. 07:22.971 --> 07:23.971 [SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to belching. 07:24.911 --> 07:25.472 [SPEAKER_02]: I guess so. 07:26.512 --> 07:28.333 [SPEAKER_02]: Cool sewer system belching. 07:29.893 --> 07:31.354 [SPEAKER_02]: That just makes me kind of want to gag. 07:31.629 --> 07:32.910 [SPEAKER_01]: Not in the none of them are great. 07:33.130 --> 07:47.997 [SPEAKER_01]: No, man, but if there was error it was in the 1980s and you were back there and they said that the devil was just about everywhere waiting to lure the good decent Christians into his realm of evil. 07:48.878 --> 07:52.820 [SPEAKER_01]: On the other hand, it was the closest thing we had to a real life Scooby-Doo mystery. 07:53.755 --> 08:06.808 [SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it wasn't the devil at all, but old man Jenkins trying to scare people away from his illegal chinchilla farm in the sewers of Cincinnati, chinchilla farm, or that come from it's just what they wrote. 08:06.848 --> 08:18.038 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as I got older, I figured that was just another urban legend, no different than the phantom hitch fikers or ghost bridges or every other children's tail trying to scare each other. 08:18.979 --> 08:24.301 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was a bit surprised after all these years when I discovered that people were still talking about the blue ash portal to hell. 08:25.362 --> 08:29.464 [SPEAKER_01]: Occasionally near Halloween or on ghost hunting websites and of course YouTube. 08:30.384 --> 08:31.444 [SPEAKER_01]: So what's the real story? 08:31.925 --> 08:32.965 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's Satan's Hollow. 08:33.725 --> 08:37.007 [SPEAKER_01]: Stay away from Satan's Hollow when recent news report began. 08:37.607 --> 08:47.792 [SPEAKER_01]: The video pinned from a female reporter to focus on what look like original graffiti covered storm drain running underneath the road a short distance away. 08:48.932 --> 09:00.898 [SPEAKER_01]: The legend says that he who are who summons the devil inside, but the locals went anywhere to or went everyone to know that they're just sick and tired of all the lads getting against breaking up their quiet neighborhood. 09:01.879 --> 09:10.103 [SPEAKER_01]: The police want to remind everybody that this on private property and anyone caught there should have been art should be and will be arrested. 09:10.123 --> 09:13.745 [SPEAKER_01]: Ooh, bring the law down on explorers. 09:14.805 --> 09:16.986 [SPEAKER_01]: The news segment continued for only a few minutes. 09:17.146 --> 09:25.812 [SPEAKER_01]: One elderly citizen spoke out about being bothered about all the commotion and extra traffic that increases shortly before Halloween for all the sightseers. 09:26.052 --> 09:26.772 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, make sense. 09:27.413 --> 09:29.374 [SPEAKER_01]: It's like that was a storm drain. 09:29.494 --> 09:31.095 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like the moonville bridge on Halloween. 09:31.435 --> 09:33.456 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but there's at least a parking lot for moonville. 09:33.656 --> 09:34.177 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess so. 09:34.197 --> 09:34.477 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 09:34.497 --> 09:35.978 [SPEAKER_02]: This is like under people's houses. 09:36.078 --> 09:38.719 [SPEAKER_02]: I just meant like that's when people gather. 09:38.739 --> 09:39.560 [SPEAKER_02]: It's Halloween time. 09:39.620 --> 09:39.820 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 09:40.440 --> 09:41.441 [SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, get this popular. 09:41.481 --> 09:42.622 [SPEAKER_01]: This is in a neighborhood. 09:43.352 --> 09:53.939 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's at down by Jerry's house, like in his backyard, and there's people like ho, bro, it's all a shot, but you know, in the backyard, yeah, I wouldn't want that either. 09:53.959 --> 10:00.303 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it sounds like our Jerry, what I say, I don't know, one of the two. 10:01.503 --> 10:09.008 [SPEAKER_01]: Before the statement related to the spokesman of the department of transportation wanted to inform people, that this is an active storm drain, and therefore could be extremely dangerous. 10:09.068 --> 10:09.909 [SPEAKER_01]: I let you know they are. 10:12.212 --> 10:12.452 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 10:12.652 --> 10:13.393 [SPEAKER_02]: It lives down there. 10:14.493 --> 10:15.854 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking, the water will kill you. 10:16.234 --> 10:16.654 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay. 10:16.674 --> 10:16.894 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 10:17.014 --> 10:18.975 [SPEAKER_01]: Like it'll it'll crush you into nothing. 10:19.215 --> 10:19.476 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 10:19.496 --> 10:28.480 [SPEAKER_01]: It's so like it's it's low and so it's basically like I said more modern storm drains or much better with what like they there's water falls in and stuff like that. 10:28.920 --> 10:31.161 [SPEAKER_01]: It helps pressurize the water and it shoots out. 10:31.481 --> 10:31.681 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 10:32.002 --> 10:34.303 [SPEAKER_01]: So you can do you can move a lot more water faster. 10:35.163 --> 10:38.725 [SPEAKER_01]: But if you got caught in there, it's just going to crush you and pull Verizon into nothing. 10:39.285 --> 10:42.107 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's not very nice and you will now run the water. 10:42.227 --> 10:46.631 [SPEAKER_01]: I cannot tell you how many people when I work in like fisheries and stuff like that thought they could outrun a flood. 10:47.691 --> 10:49.373 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I'll run it when you're down there. 10:49.393 --> 10:49.613 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 10:49.633 --> 10:49.773 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 10:50.313 --> 10:50.494 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 10:50.514 --> 10:52.235 [SPEAKER_02]: That sounds like any of Jones or something. 10:52.255 --> 10:54.777 [SPEAKER_01]: Like I, the storm drains are so scary. 10:55.477 --> 10:56.538 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't I don't go in them. 10:56.598 --> 10:57.619 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never been down in one. 10:57.859 --> 11:00.581 [SPEAKER_02]: I've never been in a city sewer system. 11:01.062 --> 11:02.443 [SPEAKER_01]: So it's storm drains aren't sewer. 11:03.003 --> 11:05.425 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, they're just runoff systems basically. 11:05.446 --> 11:10.290 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like storm soldiers what they're preventing, you know, not people's houses out and stuff like that. 11:10.750 --> 11:12.572 [SPEAKER_01]: So most time they are dry or empty. 11:12.812 --> 11:21.040 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and like I said, some modern ones actually have like a little, basically a you pipe and them to keep water to keep animals from going in and keep people from going in and stuff like that. 11:21.100 --> 11:24.023 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so there's like an impossible section. 11:24.803 --> 11:28.445 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I was thinking like a like the like the ask curve on your toilet. 11:28.605 --> 11:31.106 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, basically that like a big version of that. 11:31.326 --> 11:46.233 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, stop like, you know, people and animals from going in and out from and the sewer from belching out, you know, he then claimed to be ultimately familiar with the sewage system and has never seen any sign of devil worship anywhere down there. 11:46.753 --> 11:48.834 [SPEAKER_01]: That is exactly what a devil worshiper would say. 11:48.854 --> 11:50.535 [SPEAKER_02]: Say, I've never seen it once, guys. 11:51.415 --> 11:54.901 [SPEAKER_01]: We don't meet there every Tuesday as you hear a go-go-man in the back. 11:55.482 --> 11:56.684 [SPEAKER_01]: That's for the goat-lips. 11:56.965 --> 11:58.107 [SPEAKER_01]: They're just goats down there. 11:58.648 --> 12:00.110 [SPEAKER_01]: Natural goats, a high-o goats. 12:00.251 --> 12:00.972 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, cave goats. 12:01.653 --> 12:02.575 [SPEAKER_01]: Aw, cave goats. 12:02.835 --> 12:03.356 [SPEAKER_01]: They're back. 12:04.562 --> 12:11.069 [SPEAKER_01]: To me, this story sounds exactly like a type of urban legend that gets past room and can't fire trying to scare young or gullible people. 12:11.669 --> 12:19.157 [SPEAKER_01]: No different from any other ghost bridge, hitchhiker, ghost bride, or disappearing in front of a cemetery, or one of the hitchhikers to have a hook for a hand. 12:20.198 --> 12:23.361 [SPEAKER_01]: Fun scary stories at tell, but historically kind of hard to take seriously. 12:24.160 --> 12:29.624 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and a recent search on YouTube videos tells me that there's a lot of people that do in fact take this story very seriously. 12:30.364 --> 12:36.928 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the shorter videos featuring a ghost hunter entering the tunnel takes a few readings after hearing some kind of noise. 12:37.428 --> 12:44.313 [SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't sure if it was a ghost or demon, but to me it sounded like it was a truck driving overhead and then once again this is the author. 12:44.533 --> 12:44.793 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 12:45.834 --> 12:46.794 [SPEAKER_01]: He panicked and ran. 12:46.814 --> 12:46.875 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh. 12:49.456 --> 12:50.097 [SPEAKER_02]: That's what it did. 12:50.117 --> 12:50.397 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 12:50.457 --> 12:50.597 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh. 12:51.943 --> 12:52.904 [SPEAKER_02]: Once again, this is the other. 12:53.004 --> 12:54.225 [SPEAKER_02]: Epanic and Rand like over. 12:54.305 --> 12:56.347 [SPEAKER_01]: And I've been in some cave systems and stuff like that. 12:56.547 --> 13:02.612 [SPEAKER_01]: We're, you can hear like, if there's a highway nearby above you, like, I'm talking sometimes like a mile away. 13:02.832 --> 13:03.092 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 13:03.112 --> 13:04.573 [SPEAKER_01]: You can still hear cars driving. 13:04.893 --> 13:05.294 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really? 13:05.574 --> 13:06.575 [SPEAKER_02]: Just like the vibration. 13:06.595 --> 13:07.636 [SPEAKER_02]: How it works in the caves? 13:08.236 --> 13:12.960 [SPEAKER_02]: I was thinking more, yeah, or something similar like, uh, remember in the goonies when they're down on the cave? 13:13.300 --> 13:13.961 [SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, kind of. 13:13.981 --> 13:18.944 [SPEAKER_02]: And they hear the, uh, the cars above the, then there's the water pipes that are like down in the caves. 13:19.885 --> 13:20.765 [SPEAKER_02]: That is screw with them. 13:21.005 --> 13:22.706 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know same thing. 13:22.966 --> 13:24.186 [SPEAKER_01]: It's basically a goony's episode. 13:24.266 --> 13:41.930 [SPEAKER_01]: There you go The longest video I saw was about 45 minutes long as the subject makes his way deeper and deeper into the Stormdrain system which you should not do it's mystery talking don't go into a storm drainage system Yeah, because it rains a little bit you could die hmm. 13:41.950 --> 13:47.091 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking like flood because it's so pressurized now Okay, you like I could get trapped and beat to death 13:48.591 --> 13:49.772 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that wouldn't be a good way to go. 13:49.792 --> 13:51.774 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a sucky way to die the whole time you're dying. 13:51.874 --> 14:05.226 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no one wants that or the work I guess what it'd be worse is if it just beats and batters your body and breaks everything and then you were just laying there alive still That could be worse, too, because you could be there for days and then you die and then you die as ratty you. 14:05.706 --> 14:14.794 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, all right Don't go and stay in dreams and no in Chicago I thought it was a musk rat and it was a real rat 14:15.279 --> 14:16.299 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're gigantic there. 14:16.319 --> 14:17.440 [SPEAKER_02]: I seen him in New York too. 14:18.180 --> 14:19.261 [SPEAKER_02]: I seen a rat in New York. 14:19.281 --> 14:25.303 [SPEAKER_01]: When we would do like surveys and stuff like that, what storm drains are even like occasionally sewer like the sewage system would dump into the river. 14:25.403 --> 14:25.663 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 14:26.203 --> 14:27.364 [SPEAKER_01]: And you shocked around it. 14:27.784 --> 14:28.764 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, for testing fish. 14:28.864 --> 14:29.085 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 14:29.145 --> 14:30.365 [SPEAKER_01]: They would fly out of there. 14:30.625 --> 14:31.045 [SPEAKER_02]: I bet. 14:31.265 --> 14:32.246 [SPEAKER_01]: And they were just massive. 14:33.046 --> 14:33.927 [SPEAKER_02]: They all rats. 14:34.407 --> 14:36.828 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they will, they, they will go at you. 14:37.068 --> 14:39.249 [SPEAKER_02]: I think city rats is his own subspecies. 14:39.909 --> 14:41.229 [SPEAKER_01]: We did a whole episode in July rats. 14:41.410 --> 14:41.610 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 14:45.238 --> 14:45.858 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no. 14:45.938 --> 14:48.860 [SPEAKER_01]: We did a whole episode of giant rats seen around the world, like that's right. 14:48.920 --> 14:50.461 [SPEAKER_01]: Eating kids and stuff like that. 14:51.521 --> 14:51.902 [SPEAKER_02]: Wonderful. 14:52.682 --> 14:53.302 [SPEAKER_01]: It happens. 14:53.963 --> 14:54.463 [SPEAKER_01]: It happens. 14:55.704 --> 15:02.067 [SPEAKER_01]: As a subject in the Exitweight Deeper and Deeper into the Stormdream system, he talks about ghost figure peoples are that people have claimed it's seen. 15:02.587 --> 15:10.972 [SPEAKER_01]: He talks about how groups of witches and other Satanists used to come down here and perform dark magic, which somehow conjure a shadow man, who seemingly refuses to leave. 15:12.413 --> 15:13.713 [SPEAKER_01]: This makes me kind of think of the hide behind 15:15.094 --> 15:24.779 [SPEAKER_01]: So wait it would conjure up a shadow man that would just kind of loom around that was stuck into the cave systems that reminds me It's like this shadowy creature from our old house that was right there. 15:24.859 --> 15:24.959 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 15:24.979 --> 15:25.079 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 15:25.099 --> 15:25.199 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 15:25.219 --> 15:25.439 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 15:25.819 --> 15:28.820 [SPEAKER_02]: Like that was magic rituals bound it there Found it there. 15:28.940 --> 15:30.561 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that kind of makes me think of that. 15:30.981 --> 15:42.747 [SPEAKER_02]: There's some weird stuff too I mean you've seen I'm sure you've seen it like videos where there's just like creatures with Encaves like in the back they're watching and they just like tuck away I don't know there's weird stuff in caves and sewer systems 15:44.458 --> 15:50.184 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like this ain't two strange or weird to me, but there's other stuff in caves and tunnels and stuff. 15:50.204 --> 15:57.011 [SPEAKER_02]: They were people were doing their rituals on a ground in New York, especially and trying to summon entities into caves. 15:58.095 --> 15:59.856 [SPEAKER_02]: That's, that's happening two day. 15:59.896 --> 16:02.477 [SPEAKER_02]: There was a big video about it where we got busted last year. 16:03.017 --> 16:07.780 [SPEAKER_01]: When he comes to a large hexagonal intersection, he calls his the altar room. 16:08.700 --> 16:16.704 [SPEAKER_01]: If you ignore all the graffiti spread on the walls, it looks rather mundane, but he sees how people's imagination can take it somewhere out of or something out of nothing. 16:17.265 --> 16:23.788 [SPEAKER_01]: What it is, it's just like a large like, it's just like a sectioning point for a bunch of pipes to meet for the drainage system. 16:24.028 --> 16:25.089 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but they're massive. 16:25.109 --> 16:25.829 [SPEAKER_01]: I've been in one of them. 16:26.389 --> 16:28.210 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's like some of them are massive. 16:28.291 --> 16:29.871 [SPEAKER_02]: It's like a central cathedral room. 16:29.972 --> 16:31.512 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, they could. 16:31.733 --> 16:33.674 [SPEAKER_01]: I kind of like the domes and point pleasant. 16:33.694 --> 16:34.394 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like you're in. 16:34.554 --> 16:34.974 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, cool. 16:34.994 --> 16:35.515 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 16:35.535 --> 16:35.875 [SPEAKER_01]: It's all. 16:36.075 --> 16:36.555 [SPEAKER_01]: It's black. 16:36.595 --> 16:37.196 [SPEAKER_01]: It's underground. 16:37.396 --> 16:45.380 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's so what do you call that oppressive because the pressure in there and stuff like that, not that there's anything malevolent about anything like that. 16:45.400 --> 16:46.221 [SPEAKER_02]: But it feels like it. 16:46.401 --> 16:53.644 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just, I mean, you're underground in a pressurized system and it's dark and it's stinky and there's literally a lot of keep worms like hugging the walls. 16:53.664 --> 16:54.284 [SPEAKER_01]: That's disgusting. 16:54.304 --> 16:54.945 [SPEAKER_02]: That's disgusting. 16:55.525 --> 17:02.068 [SPEAKER_02]: When we were in those domes in West Virginia, remember Nick, you guys put me in one and you close the doors off. 17:02.508 --> 17:04.889 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's literally pitch black in there except for the very, very center. 17:04.929 --> 17:05.689 [SPEAKER_02]: There's like one little. 17:05.749 --> 17:06.849 [SPEAKER_01]: Like tiny spotlights. 17:06.869 --> 17:07.890 [SPEAKER_01]: Might as well not even be there. 17:08.190 --> 17:10.132 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I mean, but it's just enough there. 17:10.152 --> 17:17.237 [SPEAKER_02]: You can see your hands in front of your face, but beyond that, you can't see nothing, but Nick closed the door, and he was in there with me, and he started running. 17:18.598 --> 17:21.601 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, kind of right at me, but it sounded like he was everywhere around me. 17:21.881 --> 17:24.603 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was, for a split second there, like, my senses. 17:24.784 --> 17:26.105 [SPEAKER_02]: They're like, what, I'm not the guy. 17:26.165 --> 17:29.107 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I got, I actually got like spikes, like I got scared. 17:29.908 --> 17:34.531 [SPEAKER_02]: And like, I don't know, goosebumps hair stand up in like, I'm ready to fight or flight, and then Nick shows up right in my face. 17:35.472 --> 17:36.473 [SPEAKER_02]: out of the darkness. 17:36.593 --> 17:38.114 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you know what I would have done. 17:38.134 --> 17:39.575 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it punched him in the throat. 17:40.436 --> 17:41.556 [SPEAKER_02]: But it really did scare me. 17:41.857 --> 17:42.437 [SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know. 17:42.477 --> 17:44.579 [SPEAKER_02]: So I can be so very overwhelming. 17:44.619 --> 17:46.780 [SPEAKER_02]: Just I knew what was going on then. 17:46.800 --> 17:48.581 [SPEAKER_02]: And it was still naturally scary. 17:48.722 --> 17:50.983 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, your body was still like ready to go. 17:51.003 --> 17:52.925 [SPEAKER_02]: It sounded like creatures all around me running around. 17:53.005 --> 17:53.465 [SPEAKER_02]: It was weird. 17:55.363 --> 18:03.627 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but yeah, or who knows, maybe at some point somebody did enter the so-called Alter room and form some kind of dark rituals, maybe even trying to sum some of the devil himself. 18:04.567 --> 18:07.048 [SPEAKER_01]: Seriously, that's not totally out of the realm of possibilities. 18:07.669 --> 18:19.274 [SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes 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19:27.318 --> 19:33.705 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, quite honestly, it's kind of hard to pin down with the lighting actually comes from or how long people have been telling about it. 19:34.106 --> 19:39.111 [SPEAKER_01]: The really, for example, of a portal that Helen O'Hye was dates back to December of 1853. 19:40.172 --> 19:48.361 [SPEAKER_01]: Although the story was had been submitted to the Iran Democrat newspaper several weeks before then, but the publication had been delayed because of the elections. 19:49.362 --> 20:02.929 [SPEAKER_01]: It is by all accounts, a wild and dramatic story of how a council of hell was assembled, summoning the angel of death, who opened a portal to hell through which Satan himself appeared. 20:03.749 --> 20:04.890 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's pretty bad. 20:04.910 --> 20:14.214 [SPEAKER_01]: The council of hell can be summoned the the angel of death, which to me, never seemed like a bad guy, but that's just me. 20:14.835 --> 20:15.015 [SPEAKER_02]: Right. 20:15.035 --> 20:15.235 [SPEAKER_02]: What? 20:16.039 --> 20:19.962 [SPEAKER_01]: So it depends on like which versions of the angel of death you look at. 20:20.102 --> 20:27.887 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, okay, but I know a lot of like in my like Christian to use the angel of death is not Supposedly a bad like it's not a bad thing. 20:28.367 --> 20:29.028 [SPEAKER_01]: It's just a thing. 20:29.368 --> 20:32.770 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, is that specifically what they're referring to? 20:32.830 --> 20:41.216 [SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, he just it's just more like this is more talking like the grim reaper Like the cartoon version of like okay, like here to steal your soul. 20:41.416 --> 20:42.277 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah 20:42.997 --> 20:48.841 [SPEAKER_01]: So the Council of Hell, which is humans, gets summoned, and they are in and they're in a hole. 20:48.861 --> 20:53.804 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and they summon the Angel of Death, which is a bad character in the story. 20:54.004 --> 20:54.625 [SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha, okay. 20:54.645 --> 20:57.867 [SPEAKER_01]: Who then here opens a portal of hell for Satan to come out. 20:58.147 --> 21:00.228 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 21:00.428 --> 21:02.550 [SPEAKER_01]: That's quite the twist. 21:03.130 --> 21:08.293 [SPEAKER_01]: The devil tries to tempt the angel of light with a magical substance they called. 21:13.310 --> 21:19.354 [SPEAKER_01]: which apparently came from China at the time and after a lengthy battle, the forces of good win. 21:20.135 --> 21:20.655 [SPEAKER_02]: They always do. 21:21.636 --> 21:29.681 [SPEAKER_01]: But the story ends with a caution about how many people were arrested for intoxication between this semi-anero reports. 21:31.032 --> 21:32.953 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just an anti-yah. 21:33.173 --> 21:35.793 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, this came in, this is 1853. 21:36.114 --> 21:40.415 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's just like a prohibition, and no, there's way before prohibition. 21:40.435 --> 21:42.115 [SPEAKER_01]: This almost 100 years before prohibition. 21:42.195 --> 21:43.196 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, maybe not prohibition. 21:43.236 --> 21:44.696 [SPEAKER_02]: Is this just an anti-drinking ad? 21:45.656 --> 21:47.877 [SPEAKER_01]: I, so no, yes, okay. 21:47.897 --> 21:52.779 [SPEAKER_01]: So it was drunkenness because it was a sin, okay? 21:52.839 --> 21:57.000 [SPEAKER_02]: Drinking, fair, is this to get kids to not drink? 21:57.671 --> 21:58.131 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know. 21:58.892 --> 22:00.212 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know either off of that. 22:00.272 --> 22:03.313 [SPEAKER_01]: No, it's just saying that this is the first thing right about the portal to hell. 22:03.333 --> 22:13.238 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, but it would be funny though if all this like Goes back to the very origins of it is literally just like an anti-drinking ad for kids because it was a problem that then 22:14.259 --> 22:18.202 [SPEAKER_02]: like this is their elaborate way of convincing kids to do something without directly tone. 22:18.222 --> 22:18.942 [SPEAKER_02]: You can't do this. 22:19.402 --> 22:20.883 [SPEAKER_02]: Do you know you tell kids you can't do this? 22:20.923 --> 22:21.784 [SPEAKER_02]: What's first near you do? 22:21.884 --> 22:22.184 [SPEAKER_01]: Do it. 22:22.805 --> 22:28.108 [SPEAKER_01]: So this whole season I'm trying to either tie stuff back to old episodes or stuff like that. 22:28.128 --> 22:28.548 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 22:28.748 --> 22:30.449 [SPEAKER_01]: Have you gotten where this one's going yet? 22:31.750 --> 22:32.251 [SPEAKER_02]: Whew. 22:33.191 --> 22:33.932 [SPEAKER_02]: Portal to hell. 22:34.812 --> 22:35.493 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's see here. 22:35.813 --> 22:36.213 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 22:36.253 --> 22:37.494 [SPEAKER_02]: Vamine or visor or Stanley 22:45.107 --> 22:51.433 [SPEAKER_01]: For the next 100 years or more, newspapers would have to refer the portals to Hell, way more frequently than anybody would imagine. 22:51.953 --> 23:00.021 [SPEAKER_01]: Many were religious themed works, very similar to the one from 1853, in which the devil appeared from a portal to Hell to tempt good citizens into vices or others. 23:01.462 --> 23:07.528 [SPEAKER_01]: Also during the construction of a railroad system through Colorado, one particular area was also extremely treacherous. 23:08.168 --> 23:10.030 [SPEAKER_01]: It was named Hell, or Helltown. 23:11.415 --> 23:11.898 [SPEAKER_02]: We know that. 23:12.602 --> 23:13.286 [SPEAKER_01]: Different helltown. 23:13.688 --> 23:14.874 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this one's in Colorado. 23:16.361 --> 23:18.602 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, but that is the one I'm tying it back to, is held down Ohio. 23:19.182 --> 23:19.542 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, okay. 23:19.682 --> 23:23.704 [SPEAKER_01]: Satan worshipers, sacrifices, the devil comes up, and then everybody in the town disappears. 23:24.024 --> 23:25.224 [SPEAKER_02]: And government says you can't go there. 23:25.384 --> 23:25.564 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 23:26.144 --> 23:35.268 [SPEAKER_01]: Working and traveling through the area was compared to a working and traveling through a portal to hell itself, which, in less than the literal way, it kind of was. 23:35.948 --> 23:40.389 [SPEAKER_01]: There were countless references to Dante's inferno in Milton's paradise lost. 23:40.609 --> 23:40.770 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 23:41.630 --> 23:44.571 [SPEAKER_01]: Went, like, working in this place in Colorado building this where I wrote everybody's like, 23:45.211 --> 23:46.376 [SPEAKER_01]: This is actually hell. 23:47.781 --> 23:48.323 [SPEAKER_01]: Hellscape. 23:49.166 --> 23:50.752 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's not San Francisco. 23:51.476 --> 23:51.996 [SPEAKER_01]: Colorado. 23:52.417 --> 23:52.717 [SPEAKER_01]: I know. 23:52.917 --> 24:01.965 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it wasn't until the late 1970s when they saw references to the portal of hell or anything, but religious concepts or regular analogs. 24:02.926 --> 24:06.308 [SPEAKER_01]: Now suddenly, they tried to be specific haunted locations. 24:06.969 --> 24:15.616 [SPEAKER_01]: By the eight or the 1980s, stories were even more common perhaps spurred on by the popular horror films of the time, such as Poltergeist and Hill Razor. 24:16.677 --> 24:33.477 [SPEAKER_01]: pinhead pinhead there you go while hell itself might be a drewdo Christian concept the general idea has been around forever many ancient cultures have referred to the underworld perhaps it being a Greco Roman idea of the talios may tell you about the um 24:34.218 --> 24:44.105 [SPEAKER_01]: the Funde County Region of China, not all portals have clear religious implications as filled with natural gases that have been burning for really long times. 24:44.926 --> 24:47.567 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's that portal the hell I think is in West Virginia. 24:48.168 --> 24:49.148 [SPEAKER_02]: Is it natural gas burning? 24:49.489 --> 24:53.752 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they accidentally let a natural gas vein off and it's like this whole day to activate the whole town. 24:54.032 --> 24:54.372 [SPEAKER_01]: Really? 24:54.392 --> 24:54.852 [SPEAKER_01]: Still burning? 24:54.872 --> 24:56.013 [SPEAKER_01]: It's been burning for like a hundred years. 24:56.794 --> 24:57.194 [SPEAKER_01]: Really? 24:57.794 --> 24:58.055 [SPEAKER_01]: They can't 25:04.479 --> 25:09.151 [SPEAKER_01]: And if you like their cracks it appear into the town like if you look in there it literally looks like hell 25:09.702 --> 25:10.422 [SPEAKER_02]: because it's on fire. 25:10.743 --> 25:14.145 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but it's like red veins and cracks. 25:14.205 --> 25:14.425 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 25:14.485 --> 25:17.927 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it looks like an active volcano underneath this abandoned town. 25:18.147 --> 25:18.567 [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting. 25:18.848 --> 25:21.569 [SPEAKER_01]: And it's hollowing the town is the problem. 25:22.009 --> 25:23.290 [SPEAKER_02]: It's an everlasting flame. 25:24.051 --> 25:25.191 [SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we run out eventually? 25:25.892 --> 25:26.852 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, not in our lifetime. 25:27.593 --> 25:27.953 [SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah. 25:28.073 --> 25:28.894 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, probably not. 25:29.054 --> 25:29.454 [SPEAKER_01]: Probably not. 25:29.774 --> 25:32.476 [SPEAKER_01]: I think they estimate like another three or four and years to burn it out. 25:33.717 --> 25:35.958 [SPEAKER_01]: But they don't really know how big the vein is or anything like that. 25:36.168 --> 25:38.611 [SPEAKER_02]: Why don't they just drill into it and release the pressure? 25:38.871 --> 25:42.636 [SPEAKER_02]: So the flame just shoots out one spot like a bomb, I mean. 25:42.997 --> 25:46.781 [SPEAKER_01]: No, so the natural gas and then I think it's burning like coal and stuff now. 25:47.903 --> 25:49.765 [SPEAKER_02]: Ah, so it's lit the other thing. 25:49.805 --> 25:50.045 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 25:50.786 --> 25:51.227 [SPEAKER_02]: Interesting. 25:51.468 --> 25:56.409 [SPEAKER_01]: because you can go like, you can still, I don't think you, I know there's scientists that can get to the location. 25:56.429 --> 26:03.131 [SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's like a, like a, a tourist can walk up and like, well, look down in there. 26:03.391 --> 26:12.813 [SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying this thing has been burning for over 100 years and, and, but I got to pay more taxes because my car, it farts CO2. 26:12.893 --> 26:15.954 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, they didn't, yeah, there's only left in the town to pay the taxes. 26:16.715 --> 26:20.217 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying and then there's like the eternal flames too of Pennsylvania. 26:20.357 --> 26:22.518 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, those are natural gas veins. 26:22.578 --> 26:22.778 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 26:22.798 --> 26:23.498 [SPEAKER_02]: We have to live. 26:23.758 --> 26:27.920 [SPEAKER_02]: They say to like even in old uh, uh, like ancient times, right. 26:27.940 --> 26:29.481 [SPEAKER_02]: Like buried underground cities. 26:29.501 --> 26:32.482 [SPEAKER_02]: They found that where there's like natural gas veins. 26:32.542 --> 26:39.586 [SPEAKER_02]: I think they lit on the walls and as yeah, as that's their natural lighting for like their hallways and stuff, which is that is crazy. 26:39.646 --> 26:41.967 [SPEAKER_01]: That's so that that's also burning oxygen. 26:43.127 --> 26:43.668 [SPEAKER_02]: Ow, yeah. 26:44.069 --> 26:46.593 [SPEAKER_01]: So what they, well, they had to have an oxygen flow. 26:46.774 --> 26:49.458 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the, the, I can't speak. 26:49.478 --> 26:50.781 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they, three circulate. 26:50.801 --> 26:51.803 [SPEAKER_02]: Gosh, I can't think. 26:53.911 --> 27:20.044 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... what was an anthracastines for to portal hell and even clear scientific history there's also too many references to portals to hell and popular artworks such as rhodians installation in the Paris art museum considering redesign the Stanford University in california and during the time are during the time of the late 1970s or late 1980s both the blue ash portal to hell as were as similar portals situated in calambus sewer systems were being told so there was another basically the same story was being told about the clumb of 27:22.345 --> 27:23.866 [SPEAKER_01]: and they are massive. 27:23.926 --> 27:26.046 [SPEAKER_01]: But they're all relatively modern. 27:26.086 --> 27:28.387 [SPEAKER_01]: I'd say 50s and 60s are newer. 27:28.787 --> 27:29.027 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay. 27:29.608 --> 27:31.388 [SPEAKER_01]: The Columbus sewer system is actually amazing. 27:31.428 --> 27:32.729 [SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the modern day marvels. 27:33.909 --> 27:35.269 [SPEAKER_01]: The stormwater and sewage system. 27:36.390 --> 27:37.710 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it's cleared. 27:37.830 --> 27:44.753 [SPEAKER_01]: The water is declared excellent up to the last dam, the green land dam, and the only reason doesn't go past that is because of the green land dam. 27:44.813 --> 27:45.053 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 27:45.073 --> 27:45.313 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 27:45.473 --> 27:46.473 [SPEAKER_01]: The water quality is fine. 27:47.334 --> 27:48.654 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the just, they can't, the fish 27:51.735 --> 28:05.950 [SPEAKER_02]: the Greenland Damn right they can't yes this species can't so you can't score though we're probably because it's yeah no fish there well the water quality is fine yeah you just can't score it how we normally would score him but they're like these boxes in there that are like house sized 28:07.657 --> 28:10.199 [SPEAKER_01]: of the and in this stormwater and suicide. 28:10.319 --> 28:11.000 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I've got you. 28:11.100 --> 28:18.526 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, a concrete box is like you could fit this whole house in what are those called like just basins like Stombies and basins basins basins basins. 28:18.546 --> 28:19.027 [SPEAKER_01]: Catch basin. 28:19.067 --> 28:19.627 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there you go. 28:19.687 --> 28:21.589 [SPEAKER_01]: Because a lot of stuff lined up in a metro at the top. 28:21.609 --> 28:21.929 [SPEAKER_01]: You are. 28:22.369 --> 28:22.449 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm. 28:22.630 --> 28:22.930 [SPEAKER_02]: Nice. 28:22.950 --> 28:23.671 [SPEAKER_02]: That's where you go fishing. 28:24.051 --> 28:25.772 [SPEAKER_01]: I would not eat a top out of there. 28:25.892 --> 28:26.253 [SPEAKER_02]: Why not? 28:26.273 --> 28:27.914 [SPEAKER_02]: Because they're just eating garbage. 28:28.154 --> 28:30.216 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, you know what they turn up. 28:30.296 --> 28:32.518 [SPEAKER_02]: They make lemonade and lemons. 28:33.178 --> 28:33.839 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm. 28:33.859 --> 28:34.319 [SPEAKER_02]: Is that right? 28:34.359 --> 28:34.700 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 28:35.557 --> 28:58.888 [SPEAKER_01]: uh... perhaps relatively somehow the satanic pink at the nineteen eighties when the bleep that devil in the fear of satin worshipers the idea of satanic ritual abusers especially involving child children were uh... throughout the world and becoming paranoid a peak basically yeah that was the height of the satanic panic got you where i do believe there were uh... bad things outing the children specifically in the you know the world of wars being satin or demons 28:59.969 --> 29:06.254 [SPEAKER_01]: I do think that it was like, it was a way over the top two, okay, where people were pointing the finger at everything. 29:07.034 --> 29:14.140 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like, they were pointing at like D&D, which has demons in it and stuff like that, but like as Satan worshiping and stuff like that. 29:14.220 --> 29:16.182 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it went too far one way. 29:16.362 --> 29:16.722 [SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha. 29:18.384 --> 29:22.507 [SPEAKER_01]: The blue ash portal, the legend of Satan's hollow continues to the day, especially around Halloween. 29:22.927 --> 29:28.092 [SPEAKER_01]: However, the local news broadcast mentioned the points that's extremely dangerous, and it's all on private property. 29:28.772 --> 29:29.653 [SPEAKER_01]: So don't go in there. 29:30.613 --> 29:31.914 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably best to stay away. 29:32.354 --> 29:32.874 [SPEAKER_01]: Stay clear. 29:33.615 --> 29:39.538 [SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so this what my reimagining for this was the hell, hell, hell, town Ohio. 29:39.758 --> 29:46.902 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, where I think it has a lot of similar motifs where you look at this infrastructure that is abandoned. 29:46.922 --> 29:49.303 [SPEAKER_01]: Well, the storm drain systems is not abandoned. 29:49.843 --> 30:01.271 [SPEAKER_01]: But there's nobody living there or not supposed to be living there So it's almost like walking through the ruins of an ancient civilization Yeah, it's not but it took a person to a walking through it. 30:01.291 --> 30:02.032 [SPEAKER_01]: It feels like that. 30:02.172 --> 30:03.252 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm That's was to be here. 30:03.332 --> 30:14.340 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it all abandoned and hell how or hell town has that kind of feel to Like you know the bus sitting in another street in the houses in the church Never yeah, and the graffiti doesn't help with any of that. 30:14.420 --> 30:18.463 [SPEAKER_02]: No, and the the fence stuff like barriers Yeah, doesn't help 30:18.923 --> 30:26.026 [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought it was interesting specifically that I've driven over this I won't tell anybody where the exact spot is Because I don't want anybody going to it. 30:26.246 --> 30:32.828 [SPEAKER_01]: Huh, but you'll give away my address I mean you have to listen to several episodes to find that. 30:33.128 --> 30:35.869 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah Interesting and buy some merchandise. 30:35.989 --> 30:37.990 [SPEAKER_01]: You'd have to buy some merchandise actually get the full thing. 30:39.851 --> 30:40.671 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh I guess so. 30:41.552 --> 30:42.652 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they'll never find it now 30:43.898 --> 30:57.219 [SPEAKER_01]: when you got by a very it's buried it's buried it's buried the clues are out there i got to get the Wilbur shirt with the shrewen hat i put that on the website for you and you never bought it and ever bought it 30:58.880 --> 31:17.877 [SPEAKER_01]: But no, I thought it was interesting and this is definitely one of those things that like sparks like I could definitely see how if people aren't familiar with the sewage or storm drain systems, which they generally do not connect for everybody at home storm drain systems do not connect with sewage systems and most time storm drain systems are dry and they get like flash flooding. 31:17.957 --> 31:20.800 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you will die if you get caught in these things. 31:21.380 --> 31:35.674 [SPEAKER_01]: Like when we ever we had to work around one of these things, it was such a big deal as it should be Because like you'd have to look into weather systems, and we'd have to have because there's no signal down there Right, so we'd have to have a real ace for radios and stuff to alert us if it was going to rain or something like that. 31:35.874 --> 31:39.637 [SPEAKER_02]: It's just like in the caves when people are caving in their rains and there's flash floods down there. 31:39.757 --> 31:46.864 [SPEAKER_02]: Like you I mean you could die very quickly right and nobody will know like a waterfall literally is just going to fall on you and bury you 31:47.124 --> 31:57.214 [SPEAKER_01]: Like, uh, in Chicago, it wasn't uncommon for the people that clean out the catch basins find human remains spat homeless and missing people and stuff like that. 31:57.235 --> 31:57.515 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 31:57.915 --> 32:04.322 [SPEAKER_01]: Even if they weren't in, they get swept in and it's hundreds of miles of just these catacombs essentially. 32:04.402 --> 32:04.642 [SPEAKER_01]: Right. 32:04.682 --> 32:04.842 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 32:04.882 --> 32:06.965 [SPEAKER_01]: And you end up just somewhere catch basin. 32:07.225 --> 32:07.385 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 32:07.405 --> 32:07.986 [SPEAKER_02]: That's not good. 32:08.466 --> 32:09.407 [SPEAKER_01]: I would not go down there. 32:09.547 --> 32:09.948 [SPEAKER_01]: Not good. 32:10.708 --> 32:15.553 [SPEAKER_01]: Because I could see I could see I think mount or not mount monsters monster quests. 32:16.054 --> 32:16.714 [SPEAKER_01]: No lost tapes. 32:16.734 --> 32:21.039 [SPEAKER_01]: It was lost tapes Did one of some of the out-west ones with cryptids living in them? 32:21.379 --> 32:28.166 [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, which I could believe that some modern day like Cryptids like the melon head pale crawler type things. 32:28.747 --> 32:32.690 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the human predators have moved into these these man-made caves. 32:32.831 --> 32:33.011 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah 32:33.231 --> 32:35.732 [SPEAKER_02]: because it's infrastructure, it's easy to travel in your hidden. 32:35.752 --> 32:38.053 [SPEAKER_01]: There's food source right above you walking around. 32:38.173 --> 32:41.035 [SPEAKER_02]: Right all the time and they have no idea you're right there. 32:41.175 --> 32:46.217 [SPEAKER_01]: We did an episode on this two a long time ago with the disappearances in Columbus, Ohio. 32:47.278 --> 32:51.140 [SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them are right on top of these big openings to like the storm drain system. 32:52.740 --> 32:55.682 [SPEAKER_01]: Almost like something was coming out and grabbing things and pulling them back in. 32:55.842 --> 32:56.742 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the it clown. 32:57.083 --> 32:57.663 [SPEAKER_02]: What's his name? 32:57.703 --> 32:58.223 [SPEAKER_02]: I can't remember. 32:58.423 --> 32:58.523 [SPEAKER_02]: It. 32:59.003 --> 32:59.564 [SPEAKER_02]: It's you guys. 32:59.604 --> 33:00.044 [SPEAKER_02]: Pennywise. 33:00.104 --> 33:02.085 [SPEAKER_01]: Pennywise is the clown that he stole the face from. 33:03.685 --> 33:04.185 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay. 33:04.646 --> 33:05.246 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been a while. 33:05.426 --> 33:06.347 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the law as well. 33:06.687 --> 33:09.088 [SPEAKER_02]: I was a little kid when I watched him and it was terrifying. 33:09.488 --> 33:10.349 [SPEAKER_01]: He's fighting with the turtle. 33:10.369 --> 33:12.370 [SPEAKER_01]: He's actually weakest of all of his brothers. 33:12.850 --> 33:13.130 [SPEAKER_01]: Really? 33:13.210 --> 33:14.931 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's fighting with the god turtle. 33:15.151 --> 33:15.291 [UNKNOWN]: Hmm. 33:15.852 --> 33:17.032 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know the ad lore. 33:17.833 --> 33:21.474 [SPEAKER_02]: I just know it was scary and little Timmy went down in the storm drain and it got him. 33:22.035 --> 33:28.378 [SPEAKER_01]: That's why he's like tortures because he landed in like the Jurassic and in on our planet. 33:32.806 --> 33:34.587 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't like that story. 33:34.687 --> 33:40.231 [SPEAKER_01]: Think he is even accused of being the reason the dinosaur is when extinct is basically a temper tantrum. 33:40.531 --> 33:46.155 [SPEAKER_01]: I could see that and the reason he's done as powerful in modern date is Native Americans found his capsule and trapped him in. 33:47.596 --> 33:47.996 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 33:48.016 --> 33:48.357 [SPEAKER_01]: What is that? 33:48.417 --> 33:49.257 [SPEAKER_01]: What's the town called? 33:50.258 --> 33:50.878 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember. 33:50.898 --> 33:51.058 [SPEAKER_01]: Dairy. 33:52.199 --> 33:52.820 [SPEAKER_01]: You might be right. 33:52.840 --> 33:53.580 [SPEAKER_01]: That sounds familiar. 33:54.701 --> 33:57.483 [SPEAKER_01]: So that like because the turtle basically encapsulated him. 33:57.563 --> 34:00.365 [SPEAKER_01]: It looks like obsidian like black glass, which is like 34:02.626 --> 34:11.349 [SPEAKER_01]: And when he crash near Earth is capsule broke, and that's how the Native Americans like trapped them into a dairy, and they were like telling all the settlers like don't go in there. 34:11.429 --> 34:13.350 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, don't build a town in the middle of that. 34:13.370 --> 34:14.190 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a demon there. 34:14.210 --> 34:16.951 [SPEAKER_01]: We have trapped a cosmic horror demon. 34:17.071 --> 34:17.331 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 34:17.651 --> 34:18.891 [SPEAKER_02]: Which are those things are real. 34:20.052 --> 34:21.472 [SPEAKER_01]: I have been the great and powerful mystery. 34:22.052 --> 34:23.853 [SPEAKER_02]: And I've been Jake on to 20. 34:24.233 --> 34:25.013 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll catch you guys. 34:25.554 --> 34:26.194 [SPEAKER_02]: Bye. 34:30.960 --> 34:31.480 [SPEAKER_01]: Hey guys! 34:31.860 --> 34:32.621 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for listening. 34:32.921 --> 34:34.061 [SPEAKER_01]: The crib is the corn podcast. 34:34.521 --> 34:36.722 [SPEAKER_01]: Remember, the best way you're supposed to show is share it with a friend. 34:37.242 --> 34:48.906 [SPEAKER_02]: But if you are craving more of the jake clones, and more from Mr. E, there's always extra content on Patreon and our paid member space on cryptidsofthecorne.com. 34:49.286 --> 34:54.828 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll catch you next time 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