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[SPEAKER_01]: Good morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are here this morning, Perry.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Thursday.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Thursday, May 7th, I think, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got my date right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the first link.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good start to the day that is a good start to the day coffee, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And the coffee, you got the Death Wish Coffee flowing, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a, it's hit the spot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we made it to reach out to them for sponsorship.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man, it's a good segment.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a good segment.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had bump.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bum.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They got finally Brockman off the stand that long-winded guy took a lot of the oxygen out of the air under.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'd have thought they were up in the mountains.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish I would just do better slow on TV.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it would be good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still think it'd be good because, you know, it's funny how their, you know, temperaments are high, you know, pressure is high.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about, you know, a significant money.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're in the industry, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So you made a comment yesterday, that is a Brockman, Brockman.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's the president of Open AI.
[SPEAKER_02]: He thought at one point Elon was gonna punch him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he was fearful.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't see that in a long time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't either.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although he probably is some Master Tyquon, you know, Jiu-Jitsu mind bending.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a spare time.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yesterday they had Shivan, Zillus, who was a former opening eye board member,
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... in neural link executive which you remember about neural link uh... i don't know if we've talked about it yet on the headlines but we've talked about it a little bit on lunch you and i've talked about it and uh... in the podcast i think i might have talked about it early on but neural link is e-lons uh... company that is looking to implant chips into people's brains in fact they've already done some studies overseas later on to go through the fta
[SPEAKER_01]: of implanting chips into brains and they use two teenagers or young 20s I should say.
[SPEAKER_01]: Study cases where they actually were playing video games just using their mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm pretty sure I've run across those kids That's been my daily life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, there's some people that probably need some chips and planted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and you can imagine where it's going right So I get into my whole algorithmic state last chapter.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know once we start planting the chips.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then the then the algorithmic compliance and
[SPEAKER_02]: and the problems that go along with the having to be monitored I mean you you can be monitoring you think it's bad right now at your cell phones imagine it there inside your head I mean there's not pooping the the potential upside because there's probably plenty of upside but I mean I could think of a million reasons why at least a younger kids should have that done I mean if you can play video game in your head how are you doing anything else
[SPEAKER_01]: How are you driving like how they're going to regulate that was going to set a whole new standard to what happens if you think about something that's illegal Why probably do that every 10 minutes I mean a lot of us are going to be going to be like you know you don't want to see this mess inside this yeah I can tell you that much I mean that's what the bourbon does that quiet that I don't know Just my age or just my common sense nature.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to opt out of that one
[SPEAKER_02]: it'll be interesting to see where it goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that would happen if the government starts forcing it on us and saying, hey, no, as a matter of national security and for your own health and safety, we need to, we need to build a monitor your vitals, you know, we need to be able to monitor and tell you when you're in danger.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to be able to know where you're at at all times, especially our children, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it's always good to know exactly where you're, you know, you can see, you can see the narrative coming down the path, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I can see a lot of people would suck it into that, but
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just simply say this is why the second amendment exists.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and let's hope the Constitution rates stand behind in the privacy rates, you know, first and foremost, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's really, you know, you talk about a constitutional rate.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's where I see it really.
[SPEAKER_01]: talent on the strings of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that to force people to do it would literally go against almost all of our founding documents.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but again, one of the exceptions to the constitutional rights of it isn't that and the health and the national safety, you know, our national safety.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why you always hear them, you know, using that excuse for anything they want to do with kind of scurting the normal course of how laws get made.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would ask people to give their definition of the word national safety, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one I definitely worth keeping an eye open on.
[SPEAKER_01]: But first we got off on a little bit of a tangent on neural link, but you can see the connection to Elon Musk and she had a connection to open AI being on the board.
[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, that cost a lot of strength back in the day because they, you know, the loyalty.
[SPEAKER_01]: came into question many times with the attorneys and that was what she was being grilled on yesterday was what was her loyalty what was her connection and she got into it a bit and whether or not it influenced open AI decisions in one way or another has to as to Elon and the fractures that it created inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's no longer on the board but the attorneys focused on her role.
[SPEAKER_01]: As a conduit between the board and you know and we were talking about a few of the dealings that we're going on, you know, with opening eye helping Tesla train and whatnot So that was that was kind of the gist of the KCS today with her being on the stand interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I guess I would make for great TV Oh, I think we really make a documentary.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing they're probably gonna make a movie out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see, we're watching Blackberry now, we're watching Apple with Steve Jobs, and he's so true.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking this is coming down a lot more along the line.
[SPEAKER_01]: When he won a young movie hipsters out there, stay on top of this and use AI to come out with it before the big studios do you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just to add insult to injury, use him thruopic to build a video.
[SPEAKER_02]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: What did he do?
[SPEAKER_01]: He might sponsor it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a movie about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I created it by myself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like your thinking.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's this morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: That coffee's kicking in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, we got a local headline.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my local.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_01]: Pennsylvania stepping into the AI headlines with Shapiro.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Shapiro administration.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were Eric something like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the journey general just filed a suit against a company.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, alleging by the name of character.ai, alleging that they are providing fake medical credentials.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to always, you know, you got to be able to ask for that transparency, you got to have that accountability, you got to have that reliability, especially when it comes to your health.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're talking about,
[SPEAKER_01]: As sensitive of data as it comes that you're transmitting across the lines, and if the folks on the other end aren't licensed and regulated, it's scary.
[SPEAKER_01]: This company could be from wherever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't looked into see where it's from, but good for the administration for holding accountability, and that's what licensure is there for, right, is to have that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a little scary, and the sad thing is you have to assume there's a certain demographic.
[SPEAKER_02]: in our country that is probably more liable to fall for that, more susceptible to that, and that's, and you know, and I worry about that with my parents.
[SPEAKER_02]: My dad's still pretty with it, my mom.
[SPEAKER_01]: not quite so much like a she'd get a call like that she'd fall for a guarantee well and you know it's kind of like what you know don't always blabber to see on TV because you know met look reliable might look you know very no two-year-old professional but the same thing on the internet you know you can have a
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, with AI right now, you can create a very professional looking site in a matter of seconds and have it look all very authentic and professional and put all the credentials on there that you want but whether or not they're actually true and whether it's reliable, you need to look into all the, you know, authoritative and trust measures that would go into that if you're going to go down that path, especially if it's not been around for a while and then has some legitimacy to it so.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the, it's Pennsylvania is actually taking the lead here and it's one of the first major enforcement actions that have been filed and I see a lot of other agencies and you know, possibly the federal government coming, you know, down that same pipe by this is this is in my opinion is this is the guard rail like this, these are the things that need to happen because maybe if, if we can get ahead of this, you know, so I applaud.
[SPEAKER_02]: the Shapiro administration because this needs to happen, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And if maybe if we can get ahead of this, maybe some of these things that are bound to happen won't, yeah, we'll see, I guess, time will tell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, then it gets interesting into the, you know, the chat GPTs and the...
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the Claude's, the co-pilot's, you know, what we're going to talk about this evening, you know, when they're giving out advice, you know, such as medical advice, you know, when they're giving out, you know, and they'll say, this is not medical advice, but if I were to, you know, so, you know, it's, and I had to be very sensitive with that, and Dr. Daley, so my subscription service is only available at attorneys.
[SPEAKER_01]: you know, it's between me it's between attorneys that we're filling this isn't this isn't me given an out to the population because I don't want to give legal advice to everybody first of all I can't give legal advice to everybody you've lost state lines you know that in of itself is a loss yeah it is right so you have to be very sensitive to that and that's why it's closed off you have to be an attorney you know to subscribe so
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just a measure, you know, of protection and there's a good reason, you know, this is a tool for attorneys to use and for them to ultimately be able to decide what is worthy of their attention and and argument and they're, you know, they're attorney lens, you know, putting it on it for their best interest with their client, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, you know, that's it's it's it's interesting to see, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: how this is all starting playing and it is it's happening quickly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So Google living it right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are living it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably had a few more headlines hitting his airways right as we're speaking.
[SPEAKER_01]: But Google is testing your persistent new Gemini.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then calling it a life agent according to internal leaks.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're trying to get into this, you know, personal assistant agent mode too.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can have Gemini basically, you can create your personal assistant to be tailored to your needs.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they're going to be designing it around your habits, your tasks, your long-term goals and you need one of those.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, it's, it's, it's trust me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, uh,
[SPEAKER_01]: You can see where the value would come in, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So is that it that will be a subscription server side?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing that'll probably be one of the tiers of their Gemini.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can get the free, which, you know, again, it limits you just so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you can only do so much, which we'll talk about a little bit tonight and more in detail, but you can also get into the, you know, the pro levels and
[SPEAKER_01]: And therefore it opens up a little bit more and you can hammer hammer away a few more questions like you're, you know, like you're got one of the hot witnesses on the stand at the open AI trial, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty cool though.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's a useful, that's a very useful application for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that kind of goes hand in hand with the story you had yesterday morning about who was it.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... that laid off seven hundred employees one base yeah yeah because they can it's so much more efficient they can use yeah i mean you hate to see you don't want to see people lose in their jobs but but i mean that those are those are things that public companies have to do and i said it all along i mean the initial the initial job losses are our little scary at first glance
[SPEAKER_01]: Like anything else that we've gone through with major structural shifts to our economy, whether it was the manufacturing, whether it was the other in COVID.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're right, the COVID age.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to retool and you have to keep educating yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would encourage our listeners out there to learn the AI tools that are out there, because that only makes you more valuable as an employee, as a business owner, or even just as an individual that's operating through their daily, you know, life needs.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really makes life a little bit easier.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you can utilize those tools, there's always going to be a need for that, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless we become totally autonomous, and then we just kind of kick ourselves right in the, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: But everybody is saying that there is always going to be a need for that human.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are all to be enhancers and not to be ultimate replacements, you know, I mean, of course, that's a scary far spectrum, but if that is the case, then you're going to see these jobs being shifted, so, you know, you're going to take away from the repetitive task oriented job, just like the personal agents will do as help on some of those more mundane things that you know otherwise probably hire a college kid or a personal assistant, if you have luxury of being able to do that to do do this stuff so yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the same thing with the human noise that Tesla is getting right a rollout to, you know, that, you know, you're going to afford, essentially, another car payment, you're going to have a humanoid that can go out and do the actual manual work, you know, whether it's your laundry, whether it's your cleaning, whether it's your yard work, whether it's tearing up all your, yeah, roads of engines, potentially building your yard, see, I can potentially see them even driving cars, you know, who knows, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That can come in handy too, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Moving on, you know, of Google's obviously getting into the space and it's competitive, you knew the big ones companies weren't going to sit back and wait too long, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So anthropic is launching according to the folks out there, a dreaming mode for their clawed agents.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what this is is allowing them to reorganize memories that they've had from past interactions and improve tasks going forward autonomously.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, we get into the almost-that conscious, subconscious memory, now we're, you know, we're, we're to towing that line, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's, uh, that's the wild day-eye stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they taught the, the doing the mundane tasks like a personal system, like having one, do personal system type features or,
[SPEAKER_02]: do your shopping or things like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are like the normal, what I would consider, the normal, really cool applications for AI.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you get into the subconscious stuff, I think that's where people wake out, including myself sometimes.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's fascinating.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is fascinating.
[SPEAKER_01]: It makes for interesting bourbon conversation, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: But the lubricity helps with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And lubricity definitely helps for that when we start getting down
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, can undermove that, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's pretty wild though.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're saying this dreaming mode is an attempt to help eliminate or not eliminate, but at least minimize the hallucinations that are happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, there are every companies trying to be more efficient, be more accurate, and be more useful as far as everyday life and business life.
[SPEAKER_01]: The European Union has just opened up what could be one of the major first AI training probes against meta saying that they were they're alleging that they have been scraping European Union user data.
[SPEAKER_01]: improperly according to the EU laws and if you remember the EU laws are some of the strict regulations that are out there in the world right now that you know the European Union was the first one of the first if not the first major European it's the EU AI act and it sets forth standards and and
[SPEAKER_01]: if you're a global company that's operating across country lines and you're getting into the European Union you have to be very cognizant of it and they almost have to make that your your bench you know line of how you do business because it's so easy to sidestep otherwise yeah so they're setting the bar pretty high they are and maybe it seems to me like that's probably a good thing
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and they have adjusted their GDPR act too, which is their data act that they enacted in 2018, which also sent ripples down the IT attorneys and the privacy attorneys out there because the standards are very sensitive.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is primarily GDPR case.
[SPEAKER_01]: But with an AI company so you know, there's there's always kind of this interplay between it and that's kind of like my platform That's why we have AI data privacy cyber security because all four of those are kind of a moving Weaving interaction of laws that are always kind of intersecting with each other And if you're in one of those spaces right now
[SPEAKER_01]: You better have your pulse on all four of them because this is a prime example of where it can come back and really bite you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the technologies of all of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're all the laws and regulations.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are regarding it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are existing laws or evolving.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're being amended as we speak to catch up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stand alone laws are occurring.
[SPEAKER_01]: Regulations are getting put in place to kind of pick up the micro, you know, spots of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a it's a crazy time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then the courts are going to be interpreting all this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that it's going to be a fun
[SPEAKER_01]: Fun, fun, legal, cogamir.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, I can just see this.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the, so if they, if they want to regulate, don't try to keep it brief, if they want to regulate, if the EU is suing was a Google, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's meta, meta, for how they're scrubbing or however that works, how do they, A, how does meta control that?
[SPEAKER_02]: And B, doesn't that open the door
[SPEAKER_02]: biases that we talked about yesterday.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's counterintuitive to the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it has to be done properly.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it's not that they can't have access to that information.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to get consent to have access to that information most of the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they're asking for.
[SPEAKER_01]: They want transparency.
[SPEAKER_01]: They want the user, the ultimate person's information that's being scraped.
[SPEAKER_01]: needs to know is what they're saying, you shouldn't just be able to go scrape people's information and be able to utilize it for commercial purposes or any purpose for that matter without their consent and knowledge.
[SPEAKER_01]: First, you got to have the knowledge, then you got to have the actual consent and the European Union is very, very strict on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they do kind of set the bar as to where you have to make sure you're complying with.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you say,
[SPEAKER_01]: and it's a good point on the bias, because obviously the more of a more global and more diversified data set you have, the less likely there's going to be bias.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you can use synthetic data, you know, and that's one way to go about it is to use it as a representative, you know, where you scrub all the personal information out of there and that's done.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, you can't use
[SPEAKER_01]: their actual data to create the sense that said it data see after try to create it's it's it's a very it's a very it's a very careful and you get it and that's why privacy attorneys right now are in high demand you know AI attorneys are in high demand because you need to know you need to know where a misstep can really really be expensive what are the regulations like in the United States well the regulations like if you can imagine California's
[SPEAKER_01]: states out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've passed quite a few different laws, especially in the privacy area.
[SPEAKER_01]: We've mentioned on the podcast before how they've been trying to get out ahead in the patchwork too, getting all these AI laws on the books as the Trump administration came out finally right before the New Year saying in their memorandum that they
[SPEAKER_01]: They acknowledge that the states are going to have the right to set certain areas, but they think there should be a federal overlying law that deals with, you know, the federal issues, the major issues that will deal with national security and cross interstate commerce.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of where we stand and it's a patchwork of laws.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't stress it enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why it's created the need for docketdally.ai.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hate to give a little selfless pug, but it's it is out there for attorneys.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be up close.
[SPEAKER_02]: smart.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be out there for attorneys and there is a need and it's going to help in-house counsel and it's going to help lawyers and consulting lawyers that are out there in the space.
[SPEAKER_01]: be more knowledgeable, be ahead of the game, have the information at their fingertips.
[SPEAKER_01]: Instead of you having to go out every morning and scrape and search it, I've done all that tireless work.
[SPEAKER_01]: It comes from my background as being editor and chief of the pit law review, to working in the federal courts for three years, researching for the judges, and then throughout my private practice and now as in-house counsel for my companies, I know the value of what it means to have that information at your fingertips, especially when you're running a business or advising business clients.
[SPEAKER_01]: you want to make sure they're not they're not getting in trouble.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be a great tool.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really am happy how it's turned out up as Tonya this morning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm into the final testing phases of it and hopefully be rolling it out here later next week.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's awesome now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Excited to see how that how that roll out goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, look for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dr. Delia.ai can get a little bit preview of the homepage right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I put some samples out there and you'll be able to see what it's linked below in the YouTube video.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, final AI headline.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of ironic too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think considering what our first headline was about open AI, hugging face.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever heard of hugging face?
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, is that an expression a human makes when they hug someone or is this an application?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I thought that I thought maybe I heard about it and you're open and you're only fans days but between two and three and a half got going on there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this is our fire went away or a fire went away and a war scene's back there.
[SPEAKER_01]: This would be a commercial.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, now I haven't heard a hugging fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, so hugging faces essentially would open the eye to set out to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an open platform of all the different tools that are out to their AI tools for developers.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so they are
[SPEAKER_01]: They have a new index that they've created that kind of rates all the different AI platforms out there that say they're open and they want to, because there's a big push in the industry that share the technology.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you come up with something that's new that can be better for humanity, kind of the initial mission that was there for open AI that Elon's arguing about obviously in federal court in Oakland right now in California, but
[SPEAKER_01]: What they're trying to encourage is the sharing of the technology and the evolution of the technology, so all developers in the space can use it to improve humanity.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like we're talking about the personally eye systems, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So this company is doing that, or maybe it's on the imaging, so you're marketing or on the videos as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're marketing and you're imaging is now enhanced, and it's a lot easier to create something that looks professional.
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, we've got to be careful with all that because the open stuff gets in the hands of the bad actors and we've got to worry about the deep fakes in the synthetic, you know, videos.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they real?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they not?
[SPEAKER_01]: The transparencies are just closures.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get back into all the laws again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can take you around this circle all day long, but that's just kind of ironic with hugging faces, you know, coming out in the, in the midst, in the midst of the open AI trial, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an easy name to remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you won't forget that one, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let me wrap it up with a few crypto headlines, not much as change is really as far as Bitcoin has been fluctuating back and forth between 80 and 82,000, but it's again being pushed by the capital, influx markets from the institutions, and it's also being tugged down a little bit by the Iran, are we settling, are we not settling, are we not settling, you know, that constant back and forth, thug a word that's going on, I mentioned you before coming on here, or also roubette is a casino that operates in crypto.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah and they're making headlines this week because they've also now added to their normal games like blackjack and all that other stuff that they you'd find in any typical online casino they've added the market predictions with crypto so that they're made they made the the blurbs on on that
[SPEAKER_01]: And then finally, you can place bets on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can place bets, and most of us done in Bitcoin, ether, and they, of course, they love those two because they are the two gold standards.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: So interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sharp link, a company that is based around building up, you know, much like the companies that are out there kind of collecting and buying up Bitcoin, has been buying up ether.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's reported that they are now up to almost 868,000 ether.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what they're doing is if you heard a staking, Perry and the, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So staking for the list turns out there, they don't know in the crypto world is very much similar to if you have a savings account at a bank and you're getting an interest rate.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're promising or a CD.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would compare it more to the CD because you're locking it up for a certain period of time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there it's 30 days, whether it's a day.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did that with crypto.com.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we did.
[SPEAKER_01]: We did.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, we were playing around with Doge and all that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh we we talked about that a little bit great he was he was on that right with all of us so that was gonna fun ride is the proper word yeah that was definitely roller coaster ride you got to be ready for the the steep fall off and the steep climbs
[SPEAKER_02]: It's worse than the fall off into assholeville.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is very much similar to that curve.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not fair.
[SPEAKER_01]: It can be tough.
[SPEAKER_01]: But their whole business model is buying up E3, which obviously has a lot of potential, especially since they've been buying it up on the lows here.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they've been staking it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So when they're staking it, they're putting in the different...
[SPEAKER_01]: different companies that are out there such as crypto.com and in return for that stake, which means they're going to stake it, they're going to lock it up, they're going to allow them to use it as collateral.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a little bit of risk involved in there, but you know, it kind of like a CD, it's now getting regulated somewhat through the genius act that we talked about before and Trump's pushing for further regulations on that to kind of get some standards down in a protection.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, institutions and individuals don't lose
[SPEAKER_01]: out too badly, just kind of as they have done in the banking industry.
[SPEAKER_01]: But once you stake it, then it's a promise to pay as far as an interest rate.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's also paid out, generally in the same thing that you stake that was.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you stake it with ether, you're going to get ether and back.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it doesn't always have to be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right now, for example, on Crypto.com, I'm staking a few of my CROs, which is Crypto's inherent platform crypto in every month that changes a different
[SPEAKER_01]: crypto that you get back.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of way good way to diversify your portfolio.
[SPEAKER_02]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So those are the headlines today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of headlines.
[SPEAKER_01]: We are going to be back tonight, filming for our weekly podcast, and we're going to get into all the different platforms.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to talk about the highlights, the lowlights,
[SPEAKER_01]: And between's how much you want to pay, how much you don't want to pay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fascinating, I posed a question a couple of weeks ago for those who haven't seen it on one of our weekly episodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: What does each platform specialize in?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because Brad uses Claude to write code.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the other ones aren't as good at writing code even though I guess they can.
[SPEAKER_02]: But they don't specialize in their specializations with each of these platforms.
[SPEAKER_02]: interesting conversation.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to be honest, I use probably five or six different ones on a daily basis.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And some more, you know, than others and all get into that tonight, but because they do have their difference, you know, strengths and weaknesses.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you even ask, which was interesting, and kind of preparing additional stuff for this podcast, if you even ask the platforms, they'll admit, you know, we're not a whole sale kitchen, you know, I think kind of, we have our strengths, and this is our strengths, you know, so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Have another drink.
[SPEAKER_01]: Have a great day.
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