[SPEAKER_02]: What's up everybody, welcome to the stack on Alex.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Justin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm Pete, and on the stack we talk about a bunch of comic books that have come out this week, and there are some big finale's that we're going to be talking about here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And because they are finale's, oh, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: we're going to be getting into spoilers.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you don't want spoilers for the final issues of things and the middle issues and maybe even some first issues turn away here because we're going to be using spoilers throughout for absolutely everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also mentioned on the top here if you want every version of this podcast and all the podcast we do patreon.com slash comic book club plus you get access to our very fun discord through
[SPEAKER_02]: the patreon so come hang out there let's get off talking about the ultimate issue of the ultimates number 24 for Marvel run by Dennis Camp art by one for Gary as I just mentioned this is the final issue of the title as they take the pain to Hulk in the middle of the
[SPEAKER_02]: through Ultimate Endgame.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we've still got one issue of Ultimate Endgame to go as well as the Ultimate Universe finale which is a little tour through the whole thing on the Chris Condon when we out of the on those show a couple of weeks back talked about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a little thing that like
[SPEAKER_02]: provides a little bit more of a capstone to ultimate Wolverine gives a final light note there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm assuming the rest of it is going to be a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is the final issue of the final quote unquote ongoing title from the ultimate line.
[SPEAKER_02]: So not to blow it out too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not to put too much pressure on this one comic book.
[SPEAKER_02]: But how are you feeling about this in specific?
[SPEAKER_02]: But how are you feeling about the ultimate line in general?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Justin, you're still camping or is summer camp over?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's up?
[SPEAKER_03]: Summer camp is just starting.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, this is, I'm, I'm bored with that as camp.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I feel like, especially this series, he has turned in, like, back, back to back, to back, a great issues that are punching way above their weight.
[SPEAKER_03]: The only, the thing with this issue is when it's like, this is the last one.
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels a little arbitrary.
[SPEAKER_03]: what we see in this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like they're fighting the Hulk, and it's a great fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're some great ideas wrapped up, and it really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it feels like, oh, this isn't the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's, I guess technically not, I just feel like this book has become a little bit of a victim of, what feels like a very babbled end to the ultimate universe.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so this book feels like it's like a big fight that was happening there like hey Let's go over there where the other fights happening and we get this like Trunkated end where they go off to the the final fight in the other book and I don't well the whole thing is I'm just enjoying what I have and trying to not think about the larger disappointments in the context
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I disagree.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Bobbleheads are cool, and a lot of people love them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're kind of like Funko Pops, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought this speaking of the action of the kind of a Hulk fight that we got there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was a ton of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: This was just, I thought, kind of turned up in a lot of different ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I really loved the art and the violence.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was a blast of an issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I agree with you on the single issue basis that this is well done, a really good fight.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like Hulk has been a primary villain throughout this entire book, so dealing with him here and the way that they deal with him, I thought was very appropriate.
[SPEAKER_02]: It brings together
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the threads from this comic book.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, as he, like Justin was saying, as a final issue for this comic book, it doesn't work.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is, yeah, a good one-shot issue that follows up on those threads, but
[SPEAKER_02]: it doesn't feel like the end and like you were saying again just in the last page is like well there's some stuff going on an ultimate end game we got to go over there and yeah that's a poor ending and i don't put that on dentist cab even though he was writing the other thing because that seems like they decided these are going 24 issues then we're done but but man these really could have used a wrap up issue or something that focus back in on the team
[SPEAKER_02]: or ultimate endgame should have been part of the ultimates or something like that, like it's just right.
[SPEAKER_02]: The way that this whole thing is happening and it's really bobbing me out.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, and again, it wouldn't be so much of a disappointment except this entire universe was built on clockwork time.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was literally like a machine, they were like, when you, when you guys see how tightly constructed we did this, and then at the end there's like, whoops, and I'm like, wait, God, what do you, the TV show lost?
[SPEAKER_03]: Where are you, this is really blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: He spilled ink everywhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oops.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a good last issue of a She-Hulk comic book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, not a good issue last issue of the ultimate comic book, because we don't get to see most of the team.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't get to see them come together or do anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Green mentioned they are doing a couple wrap-up other issues, so just look.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they'll cover it there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, but that's another comic book.
[SPEAKER_03]: And they do touch on like I like the ultimate iron fist of this in here.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is some good Yeah, good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Still still pushing out into the ultimate universe here in the very last issue and I appreciate that But it definitely doesn't feel like the capstone to anything which is I think what we hoped
[SPEAKER_02]: And to blow this out even bigger when they announced the end of the ultimate universe, one of the big things they said is they wanted these to be books that had distinct beginning middle and ends so they could live on bookshelves forever and people could read them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And at the time, a lot of fans were like, boo, how dare you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was a big booster of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Marvel has struggled a little bit in their bookstore game.
[SPEAKER_02]: So give them something that is lauded to get in there.
[SPEAKER_02]: But trying to imagine anybody reading this and getting to the final trade of the ultimate, it's being like, huh?
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a right story.
[SPEAKER_02]: That story is a complete bungalow, even what they were trying to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pumps me out, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's talk about another ending that I'm sure, but nobody out.
[SPEAKER_02]: That man, 163 for DC Comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: to Jeff Loeb, art by Jim Lee.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the final very delayed issue of Hattush, the sequel to Hush by this team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jim Lee has been very open about the fact that he sent a slow down as scheduled exponentially for health reasons.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's doing okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just to not work himself to the absolute bone.
[SPEAKER_02]: which has led to the slate this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: In this final issue, it's Batman against the entire bad family because of what Hush is doing, which we all know what Hush is doing and I'm not going to say it's so good because it's like a really good plan that I could definitely tell you what it is and I'm just not going to say what it is here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he has this intricate plan and then ultimately it ends with a really shocking moment because the bad family
[SPEAKER_02]: As it gets batman for saving the joker or something that he's done many times throughout continuity, but this time was very bad for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was awful.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's crazy to make everyone mad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this ends with I would argue the funniest last page of the week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's some ideas here that I can get on board with.
[SPEAKER_03]: The idea that, uh, the idea that, uh, bat that hush, even though we don't know how and it's completely opaque and incomprehensible how.
[SPEAKER_03]: But the idea that the bat family is mad at Batman, cool idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the villains are like, hey, we need to be with you because hush fucked us over.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a, that's a cool idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's something I like.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then this is spoilers for the end.
[SPEAKER_03]: The idea that Batman is killed essentially.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Talia dips Batman in daddy juice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, don't bring it back to life.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, ah, guy, you're going to kiss you.
[SPEAKER_03]: Talia.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, okay, I don't know how Lazarus works, but are you high?
[SPEAKER_02]: not for sex when you come out of it, that's what it's going to be actually made me laugh hysterically at the end is see how this big splash page that's supposed to evoke like the classic I think was Neil Adams panel of shirtless Batman kissing Talia so like it's the same sort of thing in the bottom of the quarter.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says, to be continued in Hutu's tube.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hello, hello, go of Hutu's.
[SPEAKER_03]: And just to be clear, it's the tube.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the tube in the tube.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then there's a tube like square and math.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's where they came from.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we knew that, by the way, like they were very open.
[SPEAKER_02]: When they first announced this, they said, we're going to do six issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take a break, come back, do another six, it's cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's a surprise.
[SPEAKER_02]: What I thought was funny was the logo.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is just a crazy logo.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that would be bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I also, uh, really enjoyed.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think of the panel where Batman's in the sewer with all the villains and they're like, come on back, Mad.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've got to go and that they're walking down like a little subway staircase like they're the let's go out to the lobby, caddies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're seeing orange.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, screw you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had fun with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a great houttouching time with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was really fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: A crazy twist.
[SPEAKER_01]: A high stakes, uh, thought the last panel wasn't sane.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, yeah, I also liked the part where Catwoman said out loud that she was in love with Batman once.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, yeah, I thought this was a blast.
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, I enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: What about Talia and Batman?
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think that's just Lazarus run off?
[SPEAKER_03]: Or do you think he's like, got feelings?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, because famously, things you do after you've gotten the dip is not on par with your character.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and Pete, you like Batman.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you take a bath, you'll kiss anyone outside of the bath.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's not who's that.
[SPEAKER_01]: As soon as you got on the bath, it's the first time you won't relax.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Tali, I get it back together.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think we're gonna get to two million?
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got another Damian Potential Damian coming to me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: And let me be honest, and this is the dot to take Pete's Tranquility.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to quickly look up how baby made hold on one second.
[SPEAKER_02]: How baby made?
[SPEAKER_03]: How baby made?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, just right towards how baby made into Google or AI, if you want.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how I want to learn about sexes is from Chad GBT.
[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me, Chad, how do I do this?
[SPEAKER_02]: How do I do this, Chad?
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a great question.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're really good at this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really good at this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't thank you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I haven't had a sexual partner yet, but apparently, Chad says, I made a big picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: You haven't just added a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a chatGPT, but you know, you're good at sex.
[SPEAKER_01]: I tried to type that into chatGPT and just said, Kill yourself.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I don't have a good response.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's truly what it does a lot, but that's a sad thing to say right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I was going to say is to take Pete's train of thought in the context of Batman and made series, I love the Batman Talia relationship.
[SPEAKER_03]: So seeing that here, I was sort of like, there's a little something in the back of my head, you know, and it's either a spider bite or I like this or I like this a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like this a little.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like this a little.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is incomprehensible nonsense.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, what are we going to talk about exquisite corpses?
[SPEAKER_03]: Another ending three to roll my God exquisite corpses number 13 from image comics who put this together?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is crazy
[SPEAKER_02]: image comics written by James time in the fourth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Art by Michael Paul.
[SPEAKER_02]: This whole series is been about a tournament between a bunch of killers in a small town to determine who's going to be a charge of America for the next five years.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a secret ball that actually runs things and it all comes down to this with two regular citizens who have taken up the wedding weapons.
[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.
[SPEAKER_02]: two of the killers they are facing off and the stake of everything is in the balance by the end here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've had to listen to the last issue as well, but even though I've enjoyed this series, sometimes it's been hard to hold onto the narrative, it all locked into place of the last issue and that continues in this issue, which I thought was a fantastic finale.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's going to be more really excited and interested to see what they do there.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be spin-off Mary series, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_02]: So good to add into this series.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is really going to live on bookshelves for the Forcivil Future.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really liked the way this story that was so wide, the lens was so open.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was anything, it was too much.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the narrowing in that happened was really smartly done.
[SPEAKER_03]: To the point where this is just a great,
[SPEAKER_03]: two location fight where you're really invested in both sides, really liked that.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I liked that we got, again, JT4 meticulous.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got an end beat.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got the end of the story with some stuff to set up for the future of protagonist style.
[SPEAKER_03]: Then we got an epilogue, which is like, oh, a little random.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then like, oh, follow the series coming in July that follows this random idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then the return in the future of phase two of this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought was like,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's well done and the breadcrumbs leading out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought we're excellent as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is really awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the over-the-top intense scary action and just such a solid ending.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the art so much, the mood that it sets for this book is so unique and cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's impressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, great stuff, really looking forward to more next step.
[SPEAKER_02]: Enough of the endings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about beginnings with Superman Father of tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number one from DC Comics and by Kenny Porter, aren't by Denny or else now we had Kenny on the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: This week he talked about this book a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: So do go listen to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is a new elsewhere old title about what if not to borrow another phrase.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jorrell ended up rocketing to Earth and landing on the Ken's farm instead of cattlel and things spin out from there.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think about this one?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well it's crazy like talking to Kenny about it and then reading it because he did mention in the interview how he was like, oh wait you see sort of the downstream effects of what happens when Jorrell's the one who crams into I believe what you called the baby rocket.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that was my favorite part here is, you know, we, I feel like in a lot of those words, it's like, what if this happened and what if this happened?
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just like one twist and then you really follow that to the, it's end in a very clean narrative line.
[SPEAKER_03]: This really pokes at the other because the timeline is so different.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because these are the adult, you don't need to wait for a baby to age.
[SPEAKER_03]: So you get,
[SPEAKER_03]: Father, you get Jor El known as Jordan in this comic and you get young lowest lane.
[SPEAKER_03]: My the one that I thought was really awesomely done was young Lex Luther really smart choice from the team here to have him see this super and be like whoa cool not hate him and not be like I have to crush that to be inspired by him.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like that's that cut those kind of choices I'm like oh I definitely want to read more of this because this is just
[SPEAKER_03]: right in the pocket of a widely exploring this idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's something like being in the pocket.
[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I love the pocket.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's warm.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's almost like an iron coffin because it's warm when you want it to be cold when you want it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a fan of, I was worlds, but the, this story is different.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also not a fan of another like Superman origin story, but this story really won me over, which was impressive.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had two strikes going in, but they really thought the choices they made, like Justin was talking about were really smart and cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It made something that is not fresh, same fresh, which is pretty impressive.
[SPEAKER_01]: Love the action.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought they did such a good job with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Doom Quest number one from Marvel written by Ryan North art by Francesco Mobili.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not exactly out of continuity, but it's an evergreen series we talked to Ryan North about the Sun or Show a couple weeks back that finds Doom discovering that Reed Richards has come up with a plan.
[SPEAKER_02]: to save the entire earth through time travel eventually and so doom decides he wants to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to remake the world in his image.
[SPEAKER_02]: Things go a little bit wrong by the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to spoil too much what happened this but.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're a fan of 80s and 90s television, boy is this going to be in your real boy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh boy, I thought this was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I, I was very down on one world under doom.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was perhaps a little tributation just to go into this, but I love ride North's Fantastic Four.
[SPEAKER_02]: And if you love ride North's Fantastic Four,
[SPEAKER_02]: you will love this as well, which just flips it over to Dube's perspective.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's smart, it's funny, it's well-scripted.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought for a Chisco Babili's art was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really familiar with him, but I thought his doom designs, in particular, was one where like a Dube-bot rips his skin off, then I thought it was just a very little panel.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I had a blast reading this, very excited to read the rest of the series.
[SPEAKER_03]: What I loved about this specifically is it puts the essential flaw of doom on display.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, I'm better than Reed.
[SPEAKER_03]: He sucks.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so much smarter.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then Reed has this great idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, I'm gonna do that idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna do a Reed said.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he does it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And Reed's like, why did you do this?
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, cause I did it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then read like messes it up for him.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he's like, ah, how did I lose again?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like it's, it's such a perfect formula for him and explains why he is such a great villain, a monster and very powerful, but has the most naked flaw of any Marvel film.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's, it's just really well though, right North has such a great understanding of how to write all of these fantastic four characters because his brain has been in this space for so long.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, I'm excited for this and it goes into it goes in a weird way and I like the weird way it goes Yeah, I also really enjoyed this cool interesting setup here Yeah, and also it just like such a smart thing this is something I would do if I had a time machine It's go back and save Leo on the Titanic.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean so that way doesn't you don't drown You know, this is room for two in the doorway
[SPEAKER_02]: Wow, really, really.
[SPEAKER_02]: Take away from this comic book 100% no question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you eat this comic?
[SPEAKER_03]: Or did you watch the movie Titanic?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's I can't do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you talk about the ending of the set up for that movie?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe you take this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be doing the Titanic movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he'll take a little.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe somebody's going to paint him like one of their French girls.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love a nude doom in his like iron face coffin.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the one who said you said to him was the most naked villain.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's a sin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's make a coffee shopper like give me a nude doom.
[SPEAKER_03]: Please excuse me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will tell you you can't come here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Extra hot for me for daddy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I call myself daddy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can give it whatever name you want to in the rules to the rules guys Void rivals number 30 from skybouted image comics written by Robert Kirkman art by our team pressing We missed an issue or two here there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I know
[SPEAKER_02]: So much.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the end of the Kutesson war and a big surprise.
[SPEAKER_02]: They lost the void rivals lost the rain into the Kutessons.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now they need to escape a Cobra Loss space well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, space.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: What?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm so sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete actually has an explanation.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was co-branded.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't see that makes more sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish he were singing a lot of the dialogue in this poem, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if you're part of this book, is the part where the guy with hand-droid is really bummed out that they lost the ring, and everybody's like, are you okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: It is like, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it like there's no questions follow up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like how we finally explain this talking kind of Android a little bit and this, you know, 30 issues deep.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will say this this book does treat Android as an anchor to reality every issue someone says there were to enter John.
[SPEAKER_03]: I swear.
[SPEAKER_03]: a lot of energy on talk and talk about it on a john every someone's also i talk about it all day long with my friends family loved ones yeah it's like that price is everybody's talking about it you know what i mean i'm like when we get this energy on something really just put a little chunk of it in my tank and have my car talk to me
[SPEAKER_03]: The other thing that happens in every issue is someone's like, guys, guys got an android on his hand.
[SPEAKER_03]: A android.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he did like, and the android's like, yes, I'm the most logical character in this story.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm the only guy in the mix.
[SPEAKER_01]: Eddie says well, if we get back up the truck here, cool cover, great to see the shark to cons.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also in the water, which is very exciting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they thrive.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah yeah fantastic art uh uh uh you know then the soldier bath is just so great i have such a blast with this oh hold out a second what's the stelgic in here they're what is the stelgic in here people you just to watch the void rivals cartoon every Saturday morning
[SPEAKER_02]: He'd get a shot to tons or a bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get your baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: You get your baseball.
[SPEAKER_02]: You got you ordered the split ball.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was on both sides of the different races.
[SPEAKER_02]: On the other sides of the ring.
[SPEAKER_02]: We know both of their names.
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, I'm not going to say them out loud.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we do.
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't need to say them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: 100%.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you had your hand-dried glove for your spoon.
[SPEAKER_02]: That you could eat the voids.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when you talk about the Autobots and Decepticons.
[SPEAKER_01]: What were you?
[SPEAKER_01]: You're the childhood nostalgia bath void rivals fan, you know what I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying that this is talking about something from our childhood, which is the transformers in a unique way that honors the past by giving us something new.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just an absolute blast and it's also combined like a little bit of a vampire on her deery.
[SPEAKER_01]: Got the talking hand.
[SPEAKER_01]: This matches up a lot of my childhood and such a fun, unique way.
[SPEAKER_03]: I only hope that I'm honored as much as the Transformers are honored in this book where they appear briefly and someone's like, what's your deal?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I don't know, I'm out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we don't want to see them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, get them out of here.
[SPEAKER_03]: What are they powered by?
[SPEAKER_03]: Talk about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what are they, what are those are food?
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got a batteries inside of, say the C or D battery.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway, great book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wonder Woman number 20 from DC Comics, certainly by Kelly Thompson, art by Hayden Sherman.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the final issue of the season of the witch storyline, which is found Diana tackling the news suicide squad, and things do not go well for her by the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, big stuff goes down, and things get even worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: for Diana by the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, your clap and what you think about this one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, first off, fantastic cover, such a cool cover, such a great issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love this story.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the twists and turns.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so invested in this great writing, art is top notch.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just, I love the look and feel of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that this absolute Wonder Woman book is such a cool, take on her,
[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, I just think you should be reading this comic.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is great comics.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is epic.
[SPEAKER_01]: The last panel is just so fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I really felt it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been enjoying the crap out of this comic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why aren't people reading this?
[SPEAKER_01]: People are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a best seller.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very popular book.
[SPEAKER_03]: And let's just do a victory lap that we're all doing great.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, great.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why do people never watch that Titanic movie?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, nobody ever watched that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish that had more of an impact on culture.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was there a singer that we could have elevated from that?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Take a full one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot of us, Lana's more of said saying on that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, she was so hungry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think about how we do this song, Loops, I did it again,
[SPEAKER_03]: I think isn't that over the end when Leo's frozen to the side of the door, whatever it's it looks, I'll have to, I froze up to the ceiling.
[SPEAKER_03]: This comic is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the way that it continues to deepen the mythology at the same time, we're getting the super heroics up top.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are substantiates both sides of that equation, which is really hard.
[SPEAKER_03]: This villain, we're dealing with a Wonder Woman villain Renaissance in here right now in between this book and the mainline title.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the end of it, I was like, I don't know what happened, but I'm excited by not knowing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, another fantastic issue of this book, nothing further to say beyond what you guys said.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's why the defense rests.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... we sent us this comic to death court state number two from skybound image comics written by michael chavez and macky robber's art by riko rensy this is about a resurrected night who is traveling with his daughter to visit june of arc and they run into some trouble this issue
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is just a first off cool cover, last panel is bad ass, yeah, there's some real like oh shit moments in this, I like jump to the art is amazing, I was just so impressed with the kind of design and flow of this, it's such a cool style to this and
[SPEAKER_01]: that whole kind of dad thing at the end there.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're really gearing up for father's day.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was very touching.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because I know you guys would turn into zombies for your kids, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I never felt more seen as a father than in this kind of.
[SPEAKER_01]: taking the animals for your kids bro, come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I definitely feel that part.
[SPEAKER_03]: And honestly, I feel internally like he looks in the big splash page about two thirds of the way through this book, having been so apparent for so long.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, this is a great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been really enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been pretty familiar with this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've been pretty enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... gorgeous art in this book absolutely beautiful even with the flesh and blood and bones throughout superman number thirty eight from dc comics written by jolly williams in art by dad at more i it's still prime time baby as superman prime meets which fire who first tries to insourcial him and then teams up with him to go on mission together to fight subrogate demons
[SPEAKER_02]: leading to a surprising twist at the end of this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a thing that I definitely want to talk about it here that I thought was utterly fantastic for the writing perspective just like
[SPEAKER_02]: blew me away a little bit, but generally speaking, what did you guys think about these?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I thought the, it's a solid, meet-cute here that we get, and I like these two.
[SPEAKER_01]: They seem fun together.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the kind of meta vertigo comic line.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this seems like a great kind of deal, so I was enjoying this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I like this as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean like we've talked about I feel like all the super end books are pushing so they're pushing the everything forward in such a big way at the same time So that's that's exciting in a time when it feels like they'd be a bit hold more holding the line
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm happy we're a very fun time reading this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Joshua Williams, it does a great job writing, a super boy prime, and he's really at a very smart way dealing with the things that he did wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this is, and now I'm going to do good at him.
[SPEAKER_02]: A good guy, he is trying to do better, and everything that he did terrible in the past keeps getting thrown back at his face.
[SPEAKER_02]: Temptation gets thrown into his face all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's an interesting place to put a character.
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that I wanted to call out that one, this is kind of a big spoiler for the book, but I enjoyed this so much is there are throughout the book, what looks like printing errors in the dialogue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And every time I saw it, I was like, oh my god, I can't believe this got by.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it just keeps getting worse and worse over the course of the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it turns out that's actually part of the plot that's revealed at the end of the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I thought that was so smartly done.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I don't know if that bothered you guys while you're reading it to you, but it was driving me absolutely crazy while I was reading it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That didn't bother me at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we've talked about how like the DC, they're really pushing, they're allowing the creativity to flourish in a way that if usually is reserved for like more like an image or a place like that where they're letting, like, oh yes, be weird with this and they're really just welcoming that into these, like they're tapped to your titles, they're mainline titles and that's that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Super fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Next up, Wilke, Wicken and Holkling, a rate of ultra number.
[SPEAKER_02]: What if we're Marvel, run by wide Kennedy, Tegan Quinn, Zoe Tunnel and Josh Truleo, art by Stephen Bern, Luciano Vecchio, Rachel Stott and Bradley Clayton.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the publisher's annual Pride Celebration Issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this year, they're focusing on Wicken, Holkling and their extended family as they are attacked by various ultraans.
[SPEAKER_02]: The structure here is basically
[SPEAKER_02]: and then we get individual tales by individual teams before they come back together at the end.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete, you're given a nod.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you enjoy this one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought this was fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really liked the kind of story structure and action.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought they did a good job of setting up and really delivering on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: The one kind of like a knowing rollbout was annoying, but other than that, I thought it was a blast.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the way this really focused on the relationships between the characters and the way I really liked when I was like, right, this is sort of like a bat family, but here it's the sort of
[SPEAKER_03]: they're not a family that ever comes together and we don't even really get them together much in this book but the fact that they're the ties between them I was really into and wanted to see more of like what is this family can we get live hanging out with the rest of them a little bit more because I
[SPEAKER_03]: I like all these characters, they're very different, but they do, we get to see some of their relationships.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also, the last, especially the last story in this is so weird.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the Ultron's, I was wearing like a sweater around his neck and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was absolutely my favorite one, the one where we got the like dad Ultron hanging out with his daughter who he had built to a parallel village, a very fun, very fun story.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I do have a question that I don't have an answer to you, but I'd be curious to hear from any members of our LGBTQ plus listening audience here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just definitely have two vibes when I was reading this because like, or like these characters that I like the story, but I wonder how much you need to push that this is a pride.
[SPEAKER_02]: issue in the issue in terms of the actual content and flow of the story because here it's not they're telling a story about these characters versus ultra-d and that's pretty much it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know, there's a part of me that's like, hey, if you're celebrating Pride, let's celebrate Pride, let's elevate it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I also understand the idea of just letting these characters live at B and that's the celebration in and of itself.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know if you guys
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah well yeah for the dudes to ask for that yeah I do I do think that like in general when you're reading a comic and sometimes they're kind of like beating you over the head with something it gets a little old but sometimes just like having it be who they are and it's just
[SPEAKER_01]: part of their kind of being is also great.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't need to call attention to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think it really depends on the kind of story that you're telling.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I hear you because it makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are we celebrating or are you just like, we're doing a story and then thrown it under the umbrella that is pride, you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I'm not typically clear.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not being like, to be glad.
[SPEAKER_02]: to be clear I'm not being like they need to go through a bunch of like gay trauma and we need to go back or like they need to be I don't know oh my god there were time travel back to Stonewall and we're like that does not need to happen story but I think a lot about like DC's stuff which does lead into that versus this so it's just a different story till another is
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, and the thing about this is it feels very much like it's allowing these characters to be themselves rather than being like, like you said, highlighting like that they only have to deal with some sort of something specific to their sexuality.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, I like that part and the extended family we get to see and how different people react to their central relationship.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought was, was cool and was a celebration of, of, of on its own, you know, all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: The case closed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cames number seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, seriously.
[SPEAKER_02]: If anything does close, want to weigh in and let us know in the comments.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to hear from you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cames number seven from skybound and image comics, run by Benito Serrino, Robert Kirkman, art by Benito.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mark Anglerd and Corey Walker.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the deal with this comic is it came out years ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: The first six issues, they recolored and revamped the art to release it for a more modern context.
[SPEAKER_02]: It takes place in the Invincible Universe.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now this is the first original issue of the book that's come out.
[SPEAKER_02]: It also has a backup featuring Elemental who is a character from Invincible Versus.
[SPEAKER_02]: The new video game introducing her to the invisible continuity.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have a good reading leave first, six issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jump it in on the issue seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think, guys?
[SPEAKER_03]: This reminded me of just classic image of the comics taking you back to, you know what, especially savage dragon.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was like an issue straight out of savage dragon from, you know, any era you want, 15 years ago, 20 years ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it felt very much like a brightly lit superheroes just doing their business.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree with what you're saying for sure, but I don't know, like it also felt a little kind of like
[SPEAKER_01]: It was very bright but also kind of sad, you know, it's like this idea that like, hey, you know, like your life is tough, but also super hero's life isn't as great as you think it is, you know, and it's like, oh, man, do I need that?
[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, so, you know, I'm not sure, but I did enjoy parts of it and really like the art.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would have liked it to lean into more what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe it didn't in the first six issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I just don't remember slash missed it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I also like the idea that like these guys are not as good as the guardians of the globe who right now are a bunch of nobody's themselves and they're definitely not as good as invincible.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're just like,
[SPEAKER_02]: at one point, somebody calls them rent-to-soups.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so the idea of rent-to-cops, but in the world of superheroes is very fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this issue didn't quite hit for me story-wise, but I definitely would be interested to check out more to see how they play with that idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: The flash number 33 from DC comics written by Ryan North art by Gavin Gwidry.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue, the flash is trying to stop a nuclear bomb from detonating and he just cannot find it until he figures out where it is just in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's go move, Boosh, let's hear it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal, pal
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, I just a light sorbet of comic book creativity.
[SPEAKER_01]: I take a little, you used to be on my side.
[SPEAKER_01]: We used to not like flash together and now you're like, oh, flash is such a great thing in the middle of the stack.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, who is this guy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's changed.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, here's that you're mixing up your mix this up because Alex likes to flash the most and then I'd for like two years in there The dark flash storyline that was like fucked up.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I love this and Alex was like, I don't like this and you guys were friends And you guys went on vacation together and you guys hung out all the time and it was like a whole different vibe Yeah, and yes, I'm on board with the flash
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, unrelated peaches to put your hands over your chest.
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to go on vacation?
[SPEAKER_03]: We should go on vacation.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's vacation at Peats House.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just a little too soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's worth it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's worth it.
[SPEAKER_02]: To what of us, Dammit?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not to keep big up and right north, but that's two out of two for him.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is another great, really fun issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is very pleasing and enjoyable to see the flash to a very specific flash stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: come back hang out with his family there are some bigger things that go on here in terms of the future but it's just a grinder like he's a master of done in one story telling even what he is doing like a two or three issue arc it still feels like a complete package when you're reading the issue and it is I wish it wasn't such a lost art in comic books but he's bringing it back me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree it is a tight package cool cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: I yeah, I don't really like flash that much But I did love this issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved the kind of team up he did with Captain Cole tear This was great Colors are awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was impressed with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was a nice refreshing thing in the middle of the stack As much as I don't want to say that Oh, so I was right is what you're saying
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't say it like that, but well, welcome to the tasting menu.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope you're feeling refreshed for our next book.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is Fireborn number two for English comics, written by Kurt Pires and Franklin Jonas and Tibi Hague, art by Patrick Harland.
[SPEAKER_02]: This takes place at the same world as Lost Fantasy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's following a kid who is bonded with a dragon egg and is now being pursued by a bunch of characters that I would describe as top-calesque.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we said it with the first issue as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was curious to check out this one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because it was really impressed by the art in the first issue in particular.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought the layouts were really nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is very much in the Sabreld as a witch blade or a darkness mixed with rogue side.
[SPEAKER_03]: which makes for a great sort of mid-course uh... charred dish that i think really fits right here my dish bro this is a bit charred uh... we're getting a lot of like setting up lost fantasy stuff here as well so this definitely like touches on so much larger context
[SPEAKER_03]: And then now Pete, do you, or sorry, Alex, do you like this in the same way that you like the, uh, the sun loose?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I mean, I don't dislike it necessarily, but it feels very even with sure I'll read an issue of which blade or yeah, all right, throw me the darkness.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll take a look at that issue throw me the dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not really grabbing me because I feel like I have read this sort of thing a bunch of times before I've read.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've read I can read I can read that I do think the art is very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did like the backup story.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was really nicely done and very intriguing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not off this book necessarily.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just not.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not quite making the case why it's something different to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm going to go ahead and disagree with you here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really thought that the art and story and action in this were fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was really bad aspect.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this issue really delivered in a cool way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And look at that cover, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: If that doesn't get you excited, like, don't pick it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: ah wow you really get covers judge a book by its cover pizza's next screen lantern number 35 from every gig DC comics written by Jeremy Adams art by igua and monta's following two storylines here is on earth Kyle Rainer is pretended to be the bodyguard of Odyssey who is becoming a big hollywood star and this issue she is encouraged to get plastic surgery it goes wrong
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, it's space how Jordan is paling around with one of the wonder twins and they're on the run from something.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even think they do exactly what it is, but there's more twists and turns with that as that goes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of having a blast reading this series.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm having a very fun time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really dipped into the body or this issue anyway, especially like a body or take the Hal Jordan stuff as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that very much at the end of the Hal Jordan like Intermezzo to the used more food terms.
[SPEAKER_03]: We get like, find out what happened to him, some other place.
[SPEAKER_03]: Check out Aquaman I guess.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh, really kicking you out
[SPEAKER_03]: whole other area, but I like, I mean, the Kyle Raiders, one of my favorite green lanterns, my first green lantern, when I first started reading green lanterns.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like, I always love him.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think the art is especially excellent in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It feels like such a great fun summer read that these guys are pushing out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the doctor creepy face is really fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: The arts really great.
[SPEAKER_01]: This really freaks me out, bugs wearing human skin.
[SPEAKER_01]: It makes my skin crawl.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wasn't digging as much as you guys because I was scared, but yeah, this was very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: You were scared.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just like the, I mean, it's not like a really subtle Hollywood parody or anything like that, but the idea of taking, oh, everybody feels like they need to get plastic surgery when they get a role in Hollywood.
[SPEAKER_02]: and see that out to some sort of like alien threat conclusion.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought was a fun place for this book to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope they get in it for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: To say in all how the wood elites are bugs, why do they keep asking for sugar water?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right, sugar water.
[SPEAKER_02]: The century never turned to marble, written by Paul Jenkins, art by Christian Rosato.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe the saddest is here.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's up, bro?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my God, the century has been dealing as usual with his dual identities.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the century and the void.
[SPEAKER_02]: The realization he came to the last issue is that he is the void, and the century is the alternate personality.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think what know what that means.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the other thing, the reason this seems to be happening is because he is watching his dog sloughly die and he can't save him, he's leading to the event that you may be able to figure out that happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue that twisted my heart, man.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I swore at you as when I finished this book, I was like, fuck you, Zalvin, fuck you.
[SPEAKER_01]: For making you read something.
[SPEAKER_01]: They liked?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I liked it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, because it made you feel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I've been.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a big fan of century, but this Paul Jenkins is, you know, work as one me over, but this is you.
[SPEAKER_01]: We would, you know, I mean, come on, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, what if I told you that the dog didn't die, but the dog actually went to a farm upstate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I don't believe you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we did, yeah, I actually have some of those things in the farm then.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't, I can't go right now, I have work, but they send me some pictures now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very insect work.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's very happy on the farm.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a bunch, like he's been chasing around the chickens.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's having a lovely time.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's really cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: One.
[SPEAKER_03]: Keep on fucking that chicken.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that what you're gonna say?
[SPEAKER_03]: I the art of this book is excellent.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way that Paul Jenkins is Really like this is the centuries his character and the way that he's able to follow the natural progression down the path to what we get here, which is
[SPEAKER_03]: super specific read Richards very important to the the century character and we get a lot of him here trying to talk to clock we get like some human AI interactions which I like that I like to take on that and honestly the last page I was like I have no idea where this book's gonna go in the next issue yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: Horne's being halo number zero from ghost machine and image comics written by Peter J. Tomasi art by Peter Sneyberg.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is following a girl who is a demon right to was given to from a good family at a boy who is an angel who was given to a bad family.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the list of the powers and their origin story.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is also part of a crossover event called the unbelievables that's resetting the table for this entire part.
[SPEAKER_02]: of the Ghost Machine universe of books.
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, this is another book that we're reading for a while kind of put to the side, and now we're back with the zero issue, how do you feel about it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, what I like about what they're doing with this is they're not just bringing in this unbelievable idea.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're recontextualizing all of their flagship titles and saying like, well, here's, because each of the premises were a little bit like, well, here's the story we're telling, but we're not giving you all the information.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then these zero issues are sort of saying like, here's the whole deal, sort of bringing in new audience to show you, here's the story.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's about the switcherrew having the hell are trying to rebalance all they do is fight nobody wins.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe there's a way to just sort of find balance by sort of giving away the first born and seeing if the nature versus nurture will turn them into something new.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's a great premise for a story and we get that sort of very much said to us and then a little bit of the next phase of this laid out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't quite know what the unbelievable is or are like, what are we doing with that?
[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe that's not the point, but it's very funny to me that they took the coiness out of their main titles and sort of told them here in these zero issues, but then created a whole new thing to be coy about that we don't know anything about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree, I think that the information they gave us was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like zero issues, but I was happy for this kind of full story we got, this kind of explanation, so it was really easy to kind of get on board and
[SPEAKER_01]: and figure out what was going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, I'm a sucker for talking pets, so this was a lot of fun, fantastic art.
[SPEAKER_02]: Swamp Thing, 1989, number two from DC Comics, written by Rick Veech, art by Tom Mandrake.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the, I'm trying to think of it this up, but there were four issues of Swamp Thing originally planned that never got published back of the day.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of them was almost finished, but not completely finished.
[SPEAKER_02]: And finally, that got reprinted as Swamp Thing, 1989.
[SPEAKER_02]: Number one, now we're getting the never before conceived second issue of this four issue arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's some big stuff going down here as Abigail Arcane is about to give birth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Swamp thing is tumbling all the way back to the beginning of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about the feature about this, the issue that he was really excited about was next issue of this book where the place that we end up is Swamp thing is tumbling back to the end of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He said the thing you could never crack back in the day on this is what is
[SPEAKER_02]: the origin story he wanted to tell what was the big bang story he wanted to tell about the dc universe the cosmology thing you get ahead in there and that's what this issue is leading up to that will get the reveal next issue so very excited to check that out but what do you guys think about this one
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I thought the, this was really fun cover, a great front and back matter, the arts fantastic, a lot of good tripped out story that feels like it's from the 80s, great to see John Constantine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really enjoyed this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought this was really solid issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun to see them trying to do kind of interesting things like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I really like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like big idea storytelling that feels of, we just don't get it in the same way.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it makes sense.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was conceived a long time ago.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like we're crossing over into a lot of different, like DC characters that we don't see very much of, you get constant teen.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I'll paint your constant teen, like freak.
[SPEAKER_03]: How'd you feel about this opening sequence where
[SPEAKER_03]: It's him, and Jim Corgan, the specter.
[SPEAKER_03]: The Corgan.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just like an a woman who has a snake and they have snake sex.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: They all steam many.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what the problem is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Three-sem or a forsem.
[SPEAKER_02]: A three-sem with a snake or just a snake count is part of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you could tell by the picture of the second.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you got to count the snake.
[SPEAKER_03]: The snake is definitely a part of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Based on the picture.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right, so you think he's that amount of content do want some is I would say Maybe that's there's a who wrote the who you know with that line, you know, maybe you Rick had a hand, you know, maybe it's around the same time so it totally could be Yes, that was pretty wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was not Expecting to see John Constantine and the specter having a three-some of some sort
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't have that on my big-o-card.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, just, I'll update your bingo-card bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do, actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like the that's a keep dwelling on literally one page, but it's like he's like give me 10 minutes and it's like clearly like a wild sex scene you got like handcuffs on the bed, rope, gloves, but there's also like arcane symbols all over the wall like they were having sex while it's like doing weird fucking devil stuff to like it was all one big debauchery.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so
[SPEAKER_02]: It is kind of crazy that the old deal with the last issue is like, well, you can't possibly show the swamp thing as a cross.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is a step too far.
[SPEAKER_02]: When this book was regularly doing stuff like that, because like, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, John Constantine fucked the specter.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're like, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: This other thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like the specter in these Ecanity is like the revenge of God.
[SPEAKER_03]: That feels like, you know, you want to be mad about stuff to the Christians, you could focus there too.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're so mad about the cross stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to be clear, to anybody listening or watching this, we want them to ban this book again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, dying for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_03]: hope I love the end as well where we get like a hell of a hell hang out.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just love this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I also just shout to DC for the packaging.
[SPEAKER_03]: They put this all the classic ads.
[SPEAKER_03]: The letters page.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really how did they get that stuff?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's an ad for Jason takes Manhattan.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe in the back there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's the last page.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: How do they get that?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like how do they get the rights to that?
[SPEAKER_02]: How do they get like a high quality version into that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I have so many questions.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they just probably just took a comic page and scanned it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but you can't just like, there's rights involved.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, yeah, because there's a team.
[SPEAKER_01]: Reasons out to somebody else's team.
[SPEAKER_01]: They come over the price of the night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like, well, here's how much we charge you for the ad back in 1989.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now we're gonna.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure they didn't pay any money for that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure they like, hey, do you mind if we run this again as part of this and then probably like yeah, go for it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't hurt anybody on the product side.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really airing an ad for free.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess so.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we move on?
[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about Farrell number 23 from image comics written by Tony Fleece, art by Trist Forstner and Tony Rodriguez, our pets are being held in a facility and tested on to figure out what is going on with the strange virus that has been taking them over and then on the flip side of the book we're finding out the same thing happening to the stray dogs characters.
[SPEAKER_02]: Man.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a new big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think you gotta be telling me?
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just when they got caught I'm so stressed out about these goddamn Animals these paths holy shit Fucking things Book is so stressful man, but it's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I read it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know the order of farm and they're playing and there's like a bunch of chickens They're chasing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't trust the pictures that you sent me
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not draw any of them, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever you think, I didn't draw them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this book is great for stressful and art's amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love that they did just did this this is they just know that their readers are on board with this and probably also just no stray dogs as well and so we're doing this it is very stressful there's the last images on both of these size of the story are upsetting at the very least and
[SPEAKER_03]: I just caught up with this and I still we still don't know the nature of this plague or what's happening Is it a world-of-finding thing is it just like this county?
[SPEAKER_01]: And we're in deep in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like this is issue four.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: I My Pud very much intended pet theory about this book that they're gonna somehow tear this into the virus for the walking dead is
[SPEAKER_02]: get stronger by the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they might not even explicitly say that, but I could see them being like doing some visual nods to walking dead because we get a hand that it's made a jump from pets into humans this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're getting there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like
[SPEAKER_02]: issue 25 that gravitational pull.
[SPEAKER_02]: Noigua 25.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like it's almost too strong to not be like they go into a hospital and there's a guy in a coma there while zombies are roaming outside.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dude, if Negan shows up, he starts murdering these pets with Lucille, I'm going to kill you as hell.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a wild off.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's an issue 100 of feral, but I guess we'll
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think it'd be great if they just really follow that along and we got to see like one of these cats be like this is fucked up with the guy with the bat or see I want to I want to line up some people but I don't want to just I don't want to do that first line up these pets test the test the test test the seal out and so
[SPEAKER_02]: The Parallel of the Brutal Dark, and Ezra Cain Mystery, number four from DC Vertigo, written by Chris Condon, art by Jacob Phillips, we're really getting to it now as Ezra Cain, or such a detective, is dealing with a big, supernatural mystery that maybe will destroy Manhattan slash the world.
[SPEAKER_02]: Justin, you are our Condon and Philip Sky, I mean, raw.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cutted films.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, right in there.
[SPEAKER_03]: But...
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, man.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's some just great action in this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Really, like, oh, God, some bads happening here, and somehow not everyone dies.
[SPEAKER_03]: Some people certainly do, but not the titular character who we continue to ride with.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the art in this is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've talked about it up and down, but to highlight the colors, I feel like I do this every time we read an issue that comes out, like the colors in this are just so...
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and yeah, I completely agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: I also love the lettering, is really cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art style, the tone of it, just great action like you said, the suspense.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is very enjoyable.
[SPEAKER_01]: The style, the old timey kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was funny because I was reading and comic in front of my nephew, and I was trying to explain how back in the day, everybody smoked.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he was just like, what are you talking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you do the Donald Duck thing with him?
[SPEAKER_02]: When he sees Huey Louie and Dewey smoking the cigars and you made him smoke all the cigars until he turned green?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: You should try that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you will do that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're a alcoholic.
[SPEAKER_01]: You gotta try that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Donald was their uncle.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Donald's a great role model for this kind of stuff, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's the way your support's between you and Donald Duck, come on, I got my Sam's temper.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were a little sad.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were a little sad.
[SPEAKER_02]: You were a little sad.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were a little sad.
[SPEAKER_03]: You were a little
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about how cute the sailor suit is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a lot of things that are cute about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the things that cute is the sailor suit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's a thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: All we meant to think that Donald Duck served in the Navy with and was just dismissed with honor with honor.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think he was not dishonorably discharged?
[SPEAKER_03]: I had to say, I guess that's a story we have yet to tell.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he spent the rest of his life being like, I'm gonna wear this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm gonna wear this every day.
[SPEAKER_01]: just so everybody knows I don't think he was disarming.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was honorably discharge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that's his dress uniform?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what you're suggesting?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, he I think so.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you think it is?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that like you?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think maybe like he went to war and his mind cracked?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he's still, maybe that's why he's so angry is because he thinks he's at war right now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think was he in the Punisher book that Garth Ernest did when he cracked up?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Back in Vietnam was Donald there.
[SPEAKER_03]: How many people do you think Donald killed, Obercy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Marvel has said that if you read the nom, you know, that classic comic book, that's exactly how it is in every issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't talk about it, but he's there.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's speaking about war.
[SPEAKER_02]: Speaking of war, the infernal Hulk, number seven from Marvel written by Philip Kennedy Johnson art by Adam Goreham, we're following the monstrous infernal Hulk, who is turning the whole world into monsters, and this issue goes after the X-Men, we find out he has a weird connection to mutants, which they're very worried about, they're worried that it might turn them into monsters, and he plays the new X-Men team like total chumps.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just talk to bottom chubs in this issue, not stop chubs.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're reading the regular expert in book and you're like, boy, these guys act like chumps.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it'll be a break here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's not.
[SPEAKER_02]: jumps.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: First off, cool cover.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was upset that Cyclops was on the cover, but I was kind of hoping maybe the Hulk would kill Cyclops and make me very happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think this is just such a great book.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the art.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art is so glorious.
[SPEAKER_01]: The story rocks.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just next level stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: sick teaser image for the next issue uh i'm absolutely having a blast with this book it's just so much fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was shocked by how far into the X-Men continuity this book went.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was crazy it's like really um and like what is the what do we think about glob?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man uh glob's gonna become hot
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like what Philip Kenny Johnson is doing with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: This issue, I thought, did some fascinating stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like all the discussions about humans being like, we're not monsters, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was very upsetting and offsetting.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was very well done.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do get frustrated that this new X-bed team is,
[SPEAKER_02]: not to keep using the same word, but a bunch of jumps because they're just like standing around the entire time being like, oh boy, this seems like a real problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then they get to where it's like, it is a real problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't do anything about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And meanwhile, Hulk is just going around grabbing a bunch of more locks, he grabs Leech.
[SPEAKER_02]: They killed Barrow in the social, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which I was like, what do you sap?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like I flipped past that page several times because they're like, surely I could not have seen nothing like, she's the best character of the entire world.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Hulk just folds her in half and breaks her.
[SPEAKER_02]: that's crazy can she come back from that I don't think so like her whole thing is pulling out bones not growing more blood yeah there's a lot of it's a real a slump situation to quote the sound effect it's a spork and that was to like be like yeah we killed Barrow at a random issue of infertile hope is crazy to me
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I do, it's just, this was a stressful issue to read because I was like, when that he killed Merrill like that, I was like, oh, no, what's happening?
[SPEAKER_03]: And then I was like, Magneto, you don't, you don't got it, dude.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're not, you're not going to do this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And he does it, really.
[SPEAKER_03]: He does a bad job to your point of being chumps.
[SPEAKER_03]: But, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: I do, I'm just really invested in the story as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what the infertile Hulk is up to, and that feels usually the Hulk is like, right, clear what's up to, but there's chaos.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the opposite.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's finally exciting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Red Roots number two from image comics by Lorenzo de Felicius.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of my favorite issues, uh, favorite comics, excuse me, last month, it was following two absolutely wild stories.
[SPEAKER_02]: One about this killer assassin who was tracking down some folks.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when he gets killed at the end, gets sucked into a red pool.
[SPEAKER_02]: That looks like blood.
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, there is a woman who finds an increasing amount of heads showing up her into her house and that at the end in Orch or in Goblin or something like that shows up for her.
[SPEAKER_02]: We follow up on this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: You see how those two stories intersect, but still don't have a lot of answers about anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think about this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Good follow up to the first issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: You still unborn.
[SPEAKER_03]: No book goes harder than this one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: This book is like, do you not know what's happening?
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't give a fuck about that And like you don't but like I would compare this to void rifles a book where I also don't know what's happening really But this book I feel like I in the minute to minute interactions I see what's happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: I see and especially this issue where it's like She's like what is this they wake up she wakes up
[SPEAKER_03]: There's like, you know, a near death we're dealing with very specific characters.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's not Because we don't know the full context.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're very focused on a small group of characters and what's happening to them So I can still ride with this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Void rivals has the is the opposite tack.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's going as wide as possible So you're sort of Lost in a bit of chaos in the miasma of the whole thing and I think that does work sometimes in that book the last issue of void rivals This is your void rivals less so not enough about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I am really enjoying this
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just making a comparison because I'm not trying to pick a fight.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to be caught talking on two sides of my mouth when I am liking this book when I don't know what's happening.
[SPEAKER_03]: When in other books, I have the same complex, I used to have that as a complaint.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this book, I think the art's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like where this story is going and I look forward to slowly learning about what's happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art is absolutely fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love also the start of this issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you had me at some headlop in here.
[SPEAKER_01]: You get this kind of monster dogs head that knocked off in such a bad ass panel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is weird.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's really very creative and interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm a great art and action.
[SPEAKER_01]: More of this, please.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really liking this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Rick and Morty forever, number zero from Odie Press, written by Daniel Kippelsmith, Art by Troy, Little, this is following up on the Rick and Morty, the end mini series.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now Rick is basically a watcher.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has all universal knowledge, all the things that he's ever wanted, but he can't interfere with anything and it's driving him crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: But at least, until he figures out how he kind of can.
[SPEAKER_02]: things spin off from there.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to tell you not to be like a Justin and slam one thing to big up another, but Rick and Morty the TV show came back this weekend and that was not funny and this is.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there was a very stark contrast I thought between watch of the episode which they really lost the track a little bit last season and just like
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, the energy isn't there anymore in the same way, but the energy is here in this book.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you are watching, do Rebs says Rick and Bordy and you want that humor, you want that like sharp, smartness and innovative creativity read this comic instead of watching the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, is there a better, like, translation of of something than what they're doing right now with this, this book, this issue specifically.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like, from an animated show to comic book, it's just really excellent.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the only thing I can think of is adventure time, which you also really love.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that's true that was and just meant can Ryan North get a compliment out of this podcast I do agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: This really feels like The best parts of the show in such a good way and really funny bits You know, I was pleasantly surprised by this Because when you put up zero issue, I cross my arms and this uncrossed them
[SPEAKER_02]: Good stuff in your skin number two from image comics written by a D.T.A.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bittacar art by Psalm based on the life of Pete LePage.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a world game.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's a direct translation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was reading this book and I was like, Pete did this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Pete always tells us this story.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this is a thing that Pete did and they turned it into a comic book.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think Rick Moranis's skin.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll prove it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he kills up without what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is about a girl who is a big fan of a Bollywood star.
[SPEAKER_02]: So of course, what does she do?
[SPEAKER_02]: She kills her, rips off her skin, and puts on her skin, using magic, and starts to get a steadily insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because of that, I think that's the story that's happening here.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think about this one?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is really creepy as fuck.
[SPEAKER_01]: It really messed me up, but the art is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: The paneling and our choices are amazing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the cutaways to the couple times we see the skin that quite I mean, that's like that what I'm really, that was like a jumpscare
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, definitely, and really well done.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I do, I do like the art.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, this is a book that it does take you a minute to understand exactly what's happening that we've jumped back and we're leading up to the events of the last issue in the first half of this issue.
[SPEAKER_03]: But it makes, there's the ideas and sort of the metaphorical things that happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of smashed mirror stuff that I thought was cool and different.
[SPEAKER_03]: just scenes.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's a sexy in here that I thought was really well done in the horror side, but also just the character revelation side.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the end of chapter two, the very last page I thought was just awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great art.
[SPEAKER_02]: The amazing Spider-Man, Spider-Verse and he number two.
[SPEAKER_02]: from Marvel written by Jordan Boris and Joe Kelly, art by Para Perez with Raphael Perez, Granados, Norman Osborne has started a school for spider people to treat them how teach them how to be stronger if they ever need to take down him or other villains.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this issue, he built some robots like the 166 to instruct them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then the robots go a little haywire or do you?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm really enjoying this series.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked to Jordan and Joe about it at various times on the podcast, but I really like this issue in particular how they leaned into the spider people having fun with the idea of going to college.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like it's even, what I thought was a nice little textural thing there is rather than being like we have created the school for these people and now they're the school situation.
[SPEAKER_02]: The spider people are such nerds that they're like, oh, that's really play that up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wouldn't that be fun?
[SPEAKER_02]: Would it be fun to be in dorm rooms together?
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's exactly right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like when they hit that, I was like, oh, yeah, of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: They know these characters really well and executes on it really fun way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're being very careful to delineate the spider people because often they can just feel like a line of Peter Parker's all essentially doing the same thing, different places.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really thought I love this team.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like seeing them together.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like them seeing working together.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great art that brings a fun tone to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It would really matches this really well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, what Norman Osborne, not being on the up and up, I've never heard of that before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but the twist worked.
[SPEAKER_03]: The sort of double twist of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it did work on me.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I enjoyed that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to shout out the art as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's the fight between spider boy and the robot that everyone's watching.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is really well done.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's some great just angled choices and dynamic action that I thought was cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I really liked the drink that the drinks that Spiderman and Norman go and grab at a dumb bar then made a great martini
[SPEAKER_02]: Kill all Immortals 2, number five from Dark Horse Comics, written by Zach Kaplan, art by Fiko Asio, our Norsemen, our battling gangas, con, and his cronies, try and regain their immortality as the final issue here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's the final battle for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's another series coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a big T-op at the end here.
[SPEAKER_03]: What did you guys think about this final issue for now?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is another book that really just works and just that I night don't I was as I was right now I was like, I don't know why exactly I'm so tied up with it like the action is just really good and the stakes going from them being immortal and sort of unhappy and then this I'm just hanging on every panel like don't kill any of them.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're gonna die and that little switcherroo has really worked on me and then what happens in the issue naturally did as well
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really love the kind of coloring and the way this comic looks, it does such a great job of pulling you into this world.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very kind of badass.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I was really impressed by this solid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hyde Street number 12 from Ghost Machine and image comics written by Jeff Johnson art by Ivan of Rice that's continuing the story a lot of the butcher of Hyde Street who gets released this issue wouldn't you know it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not a great idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: They heard his name and everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe leading to some big character dust potentially.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess we'll see how things work on Hyde Street.
[SPEAKER_02]: Since we don't know the whole mythology as if yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is good.
[SPEAKER_02]: This continues to build.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the first big real multi part story line that they've done and there's a fair amount of danger.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't realize how invested.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've gotten everybody over the course of these issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was emotionally nice for me to feel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, and I think the genius here is that I was like wondering like, oh, what do I know these one shots in on this universe and building up all these characters and like, what how why how big is this going to get?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, wait, maybe he was they were creating victims.
[SPEAKER_03]: to go down.
[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe that is what this is.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I got to say, really got really smart, really slow played it in an excellent way.
[SPEAKER_03]: The character that dies here was upsetting, even though people are all literally months horrible.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was upsetting and I'm continue to be more invested in like what is high street?
[SPEAKER_03]: We get a lot of every issue, we get a little bit like it's actually not what you'd think and I want to know Yeah, this is crazy fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like the choices.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some real oh shit moments in this and What's kind of a cool reveal is we're becoming attached to these people, but it's also
[SPEAKER_01]: not one character is safe, and that's kind of scary and cool in such an interesting way.
[SPEAKER_01]: So really impressive, like you guys are saying, the world building and how they're kind of leaving things together.
[SPEAKER_01]: Very confidently, very smartly, so really impressive, and of course the art continues to be fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're attached to them, but they're bones, much like Merrow, are becoming unattached.
[SPEAKER_03]: from each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ripper, Ripper, Ripper, Ripper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you hear about Mimi Green?
[SPEAKER_02]: Number one, from Dark Horse Comics, by Connor Goldsmith, Art by Josh Kornilin.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is about a internet personality who got canceled and heads to a facility to try to write it out and deal with some of her issues at the same time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But there is a hint that something way more terrible may be going on at this facility while she's there.
[SPEAKER_02]: You guys are all internet personalities.
[SPEAKER_02]: How'd you feel about this?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Pete's not being canceled for another two or three hours, so I think He can still enjoy this.
[SPEAKER_02]: His schedule doubt is very racist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, a lot of meat, a lot of real juicy meats.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes agreed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I eat what about you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I cool our solid first issue.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really grabs you with the blood and monsters stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Cool vibe to it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm scared to check out more.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I did really like the art, but this reminded me a bit of other things.
[SPEAKER_02]: that I've seen, or that we've read recently.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was the, oh my gosh, what was the one from the team behind him, Braille Academy, where they're all in a facility?
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a superhero there, and then there's, and they're like making fun of board apes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm forgetting what it's called.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chris Weston was on it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: But the same sort of thing where it's like, there's something bad at this facility and the longer we stay there, the more it comes out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the issue is that I need to know more about Mimi Green to get into this, because I feel like we don't exactly know her or why she was canceled and it feels like that needed to be put up front so we can get more hooked into her character.
[SPEAKER_03]: You want to hear about Mimi Green?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: But maybe we'll get more of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_03]: I bet I bet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I bet there will be additional issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: The season's number 10 from image comics written by Rick Romander are by boy as a seda in this issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: Winter has come for everything or has it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a big twist by the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Zelbs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a second to last Zelbs seasons, really?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they artwork a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: He lost a second to worst thing that we talked about.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I've said this already.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think based on quality, the first book that we talked about was the ultimate number 24.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the second, as we discussed, we established and discussed.
[SPEAKER_02]: And number 28.
[SPEAKER_02]: in my rankings is the season's, that's how bad it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's heartbreaking that it's all the way down here.
[SPEAKER_02]: And get ready because we have another book after this, that's even worse.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I, art's just so amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: These characters are so bright and great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is such a cool and interesting idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the sister's fighting breaks my heart, but the action is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the OShit last panel is fucking fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Paul as I said is our is is excellent as we're saying the colors excellent, but I mean, we've gone away.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was as I was reading this house like, oh, we're so far away from the like circus coming to town and the missing parents.
[SPEAKER_01]: But not.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then we start to get a little curve back to it in a way that feels like this is just a steady a great steady hand at the Yeah, the ship here at the steering wheel for a recommender on this and I don't all raise this under man.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not doubting The only thing is like worst these books all keep ending
[SPEAKER_03]: and we need new ones.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to tell you guys, I love Paul and I as I say this art in this book, I think it's gorgeous.
[SPEAKER_02]: The last couple of pages in particular, there's just a thing that happens that is so expertly staged.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's awesome and I love that every issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have a hard time hooking into the story here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you don't like this one because you don't like this one.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, and I don't support women.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a note in the beginning of the letters page where recommenders like so far on paraphrasing here.
[SPEAKER_02]: But at the beginning of the letters page, it's like, you know, so far, nobody has guessed what this book is actually about and what is actually happening.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was one letter that I had to hold back on Pritay because it got close, but that's the only one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's actually cast it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that to be, I was like, okay, maybe the reason I can't get into this book is because he hasn't actually said what it is yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: And once that twist comes,
[SPEAKER_03]: it will retroactively grab me by explaining everything that's been going on so far but interesting he said if something's gonna turn the yeah turn the corner for you just based on that information
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love maybe I just got to keep reading the letter speech.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the main thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And now the worst book that we're going to talk about this week is this one fucking socks five years reverse from image comics written by Edward Baker art by Sean Phillips.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just another shitty criminal novel by these piece of shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: How dare you know, this is if you read giant sized criminal that came out back in December I want to say there was a tale of Ricky Lawless and as Edgar Baker explains toward the end of this book
[SPEAKER_02]: he originally wrote that story thinking that it was just going to be a one-and-done that went to giant size criminals specifically because he was thinking about Ricky Lawless a lot because they were making the prime video show and once he wrote that he realized oh actually I have a couple of other things that maybe I could say about Ricky Lawless that might be kind of interesting spending off of the story additionally Ricky's girlfriend Mallory
[SPEAKER_02]: It hasn't appeared since the second book, I think, which is like a decade ago, or something like that, maybe more.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Amelia Clark plays Mallory on the show, and was like, okay, so what's her backstory?
[SPEAKER_02]: And Ed Brooker was like, I don't know, so this book is here, but being inspired to get about Ricky Lawless, and also try to actually explore who Mallory is and why she is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: and that's where we get over the course of the book.
[SPEAKER_02]: So in all seriousness, another Bangor of a Criminal Book by this team.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just excellent, just excellent.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to come up with new words on such an amazing team.
[SPEAKER_01]: The art is just so phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just such an amazing vibe and tone for this storytelling.
[SPEAKER_01]: The action is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: The writing is smart.
[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting characters.
[SPEAKER_01]: This continues to be fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: it's so great the thing that I really like like Ricky as a character I hope we get more with him I like he's such a fuck up but you get to see him make these dumb choices and then sort of do the right thing in a bad way and then do
[SPEAKER_03]: win in the end a little bit but also lose forever and it's it's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just the everything is excellent and man did this make me get excited for the criminal show and we still don't know when it comes out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we thought it was going to come out last fall.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought like September the October and then when they were going to release giant size
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, here we are halfway through almost 26 and we don't know what it's coming out yet.
[SPEAKER_03]: It has to come this year.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It makes me a little concerned that it's been on the shelf this long, but we'll see.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, unless they're waiting to have it be like a big fall they'd be you like if they were going to if they are going to drop it in a month Big concern if they I make the announcement in like July that it's coming in, you know September October Then I think that's interesting and totally great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they're going to do something at Saidy Agua Comic-Con.
[SPEAKER_02]: What place?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, there you go.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is it for the stack.
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