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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, oh my god, okay, I feel like this the episode of the podcast is kind of You know when you have a high topic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, and iconic hot topic that's gonna really change the the trajectory of the podcast I have one today Okay, is this a queen's episode a little bit Speaking of queens, okay, we need to talk about John Travolta
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you love a raspberry beret honey, I think I'm all in on the John Trivolts of beret it says I'm here and you know what I have a beret on Yeah, well, yeah, I think that have you ever worn a beret?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've tried it
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: I did try a barray on one set of thrift store, which felt like you really, in my head, if I'm trying on a hat at a thrift store, it has one second to prove me that it needs to be bought, because anything more than one second, the lights are moving in.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just have to say, it's on and off, the one moment it's on, it needs to prove itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if I really pulled it down snug.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to give them the opportunity to, it's still like, you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: If you pull a barat out to snug, doesn't that just become a took?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not, it becomes the beanie of a race.
[SPEAKER_00]: The barat to beanie pipeline is all about the finesse of the pole.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a parade is kind of an uncut beat.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I've ever just look at a flat head on top.
[SPEAKER_00]: Flat head on top.
[SPEAKER_00]: So no top hat.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like, like, I like my little round head.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, OK, well, we need to talk about parade gates.
[SPEAKER_00]: So John Travolta, first of all.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we talk about John Travolta?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, equine Jackie's celebrity crush.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, and so I feel like mother, if you're listening, your number one man is doing big things and trending.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, if a man were that important to me, I would want to know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like mom, this one is kind of, this is your hot topic.
[SPEAKER_01]: confirm or can I actually add no whatever heard as add this up to stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: Edna.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Edna.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good morning, Baltimore.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, he did drag then.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of doing drag now.
[SPEAKER_01]: The break is giving drag or all doing drag and some point except for I'm not doing it in a break.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, John Travolta had his directorial debut with propeller one way night coach.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, first of all, terrible movie name, John.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, what was it?
[SPEAKER_00]: propeller one way night coach.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even, I don't even know what that means.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's giving, that's giving cross body coach bag.
[SPEAKER_00]: But worse.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's at can, can you believe it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I can.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he's at can for his directorial debut.
[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe he went to can before, but this is his first time as a director.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he said in an interview, you know, when I look back at my time at can, I want to remember this time as my moment of being a director and I thought, what a director's wear.
[SPEAKER_00]: You really, you really researched this didn't you got you got quotes from John Travolta at can Well, yes, yes, well, I have a press pass for something so color me shocked he shows up to night one of can Okay, and in a blue a navy blue beret and people were saying interesting beret, but then
[SPEAKER_00]: He showed up to an ivory barray.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, uh, he switched from navy to ivory.
[SPEAKER_00]: And people said, I didn't see the navy.
[SPEAKER_00]: He brought two braids.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think it was Bogo?
[SPEAKER_00]: Honey, just wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so people thought, oh, a second barray is hit, has hit, has flown into the building.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: A second plane is second plane.
[SPEAKER_00]: A second barray is hit, can.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well,
[SPEAKER_00]: The, the berets didn't stop there, mama.
[SPEAKER_00]: He switched from berets, a beret, a beret, a beret, a beret, a beret.
[SPEAKER_00]: And...
[SPEAKER_00]: I have lost count of berets.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's him on a brown beret.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's him in a navy beret.
[SPEAKER_00]: An ivory beret, a black beret.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has gone all in on the beret.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this is his strongest look he's ever had.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think he's hiding a trip to Turkey?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care what he's taking.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: He could, he could have a barriander, a barray under there.
[SPEAKER_00]: He could have a wig, he could have a bald.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, people just need to, people just need to accept being bald.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get to that when we get to Survivor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why?
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to go to, if you want to go to Turkey, fly to Turkey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get your, get your implants.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get your implants.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: or get bogo on bogo on bogo beret.
[SPEAKER_00]: He, it's like he went to American apparel and said I'll have one of every color.
[SPEAKER_01]: Listen, I am a bitually one of those shoppers.
[SPEAKER_01]: If I stroll in and I find a t-shirt that fits right, that sits right, that feels right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm buying it and at least two colors.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there's a syndrome you have.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there's what's that called, like nice things.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll call it that.
[SPEAKER_01]: do I have perhaps John has it to do I have a six of the same like cropped t-shirt from this one store in six different colors?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I think very much relate to this because like I can look back at my time of certain eras of my life and remember what I bought 17 of and I would wear nonstop.
[SPEAKER_01]: I get you you you you old navy buying every single tech vest.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: My very first fashion choice.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you painted with all the colors of the wind.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you know what my actually doing colorful hair is kind of like a natural but beret.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure, play cousins.
[SPEAKER_00]: A little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm loving the Barais John.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it just goes to show when you commit to a branding of oneself, the people can't deny, but to pick up the pattern.
[SPEAKER_00]: He made headlines just with his Barais.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's, I mean, I think we can all learn a lesson
[SPEAKER_00]: be bold in your choices and that lesson is be bold in your choices and commit to the look.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's done it.
[SPEAKER_00]: The beret is back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, what I would like what I would like to see though is maybe some type of whimsy with the beret, perhaps a polka dotted beret, maybe a beret with the tassel, maybe a beret, I like the military type of berets that are kind of stiff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why am I I'm seeing it somebody doing a confessional perhaps on drag race.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, was it Valentina with the beret, but that had the hoops in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a beret with with with the little silver metal hoops in it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was Valentina.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so okay, the beret is officially back.
[SPEAKER_01]: She wore a beret, but not with metal hoops in it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe someday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that was my big hot topic.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we also have another red carpet darling, kind of challenging John Travolta's status at the top of the list.
[SPEAKER_00]: Grow goo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you familiar with Grow goo?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I heard that new Amanda Lauren movie came out.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hear most critics and fans are saying that it was two episodes of TV turned into a movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there you have it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, uh, I'm not, I don't intend to really keep up with the star war.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never watched the Mandalorian on the television.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't really know if I'm prepared to understand the plot.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what's your, what's your, what's your, what's your take on grove and why bringing them up?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, why bring him up if you're not going to talk shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I am going to talk my shit if if John Travolta has has taken, you know, the red carpet by storm with his beret, Grogu is giving him stiff competition because I feel like he his publicist is working overtime.
[SPEAKER_00]: Grogu is
[SPEAKER_00]: over here eating lemons for the first time, you know, he's over here petting puppies or whatever they do with Buzzfeed.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's everywhere doing everything all at once.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's the next thing I would imagine is hot ones.
[SPEAKER_00]: Chicken Doku.
[SPEAKER_00]: We grow blue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, I saw him eating a lemon for the first time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see this?
[SPEAKER_01]: Puppets don't eat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's where's your whimsy?
[SPEAKER_00]: Where is it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you leave it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you leave it in bed this morning?
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's somebody if there's a puppet doing hot ones.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Miss Piggy or I don't want to see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they're both a Disney property.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think Grogu and Miss Piggy could go together.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is hot ones a Disney property?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I think everything are you glad you're living in a in a post
[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes I do witness things and I think I dodged bullets.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hot once.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sheer tunnel.
[SPEAKER_01]: The humiliation of ritual I wouldn't have been prepared for.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sheer tunnel damn.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is that I still I get nervous every time it pops up on my social
[SPEAKER_01]: I do feel like what's going to be done down the chair tunnel.
[SPEAKER_00]: What would I have done the worm?
[SPEAKER_00]: The duggie?
[SPEAKER_00]: The worm?
[SPEAKER_00]: The watermelon crawl?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have given it to them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to see Grogu walked down the chair tunnel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Please.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does it have feet?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, don't misgender Grogu.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does it?
[SPEAKER_00]: They said, what, is it a woman horse?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, horse.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Grogu, I don't know Grogu's whole deal to be honest.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is Grogu just a, uh-oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-oh, are they is Grogo one step away from those robot dogs, but they've just pretty them up to make us think he's cute.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they take one lesson from Grogo, it's make the robot dogs a little bit cute, and we would be submitting.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't worry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I typed into Google is Grogo, and then I can let you know the most popular searches.
[SPEAKER_01]: A robot, a puppet,
[SPEAKER_01]: non-binary real, a boy or a girl, same species as Yoda, before or after Yoda.
[SPEAKER_00]: These are all questions I do, I do need to know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Related to Yoda.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I think that they're not related, but are they?
[SPEAKER_01]: What's their last name?
[SPEAKER_01]: Grogu Yoda.
[SPEAKER_00]: Does Yoda have a last name?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I don't know, from the house of
[SPEAKER_00]: No, Yoda does Yoda's just like Madonna.
[SPEAKER_00]: No last name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yoda is just like Madonna.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, as you know, as they say in the biz, and I have always said that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Grogu's publicist though really is that bitch because without Grogu, I don't think the Mandalorian has much legs.
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't think Pedro Pascal can carry it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, from what I hear, it's just he's in the suit the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't I saw that bad movie with him and that girl and that other guy where where he where he gets leg extensions to be taller didn't catch it haven't even heard about that that seems fake that sounds like a 30 rock movie.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, he's vain.
[SPEAKER_01]: He gets leg extensions to be taller.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, like I have to remind myself now when I see Pedro Pascal that that was the character in the movie and not him who got the leg extensions.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't, I don't know if I could take that role and have people thinking that I got the leg extensions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ouch, I don't think I want to get leg extensions.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where do they wish it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the thigh, the calf, the knee,
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if this is like the men who hit their face on the counter for a redefined jaw.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not looks maxing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I came out maxed so you can't, you can't look maxed the man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, when you're already maxed your maxed.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you stay maxed, you don't got a looks maxed.
[SPEAKER_01]: This has me mad.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, John Travolta-Cup-Barray, Maxing at Cam.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ow!
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I think Grogo could really use a barray.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, but a little tiny barray on a little tiny Grogo.
[SPEAKER_00]: You would have, you would have a hit movie on your hands.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I also, I also went to the movie twice this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: Once was your recommendation.
[SPEAKER_00]: The other was something on my list.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll start with the bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did go see the sheep detectives.
[SPEAKER_01]: I heard it was fun for all ages.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun for all ages.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody said it was very heartfelt.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you cry at the sheep detective?
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you go alone?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I went with a friend, an AMC Stubbs friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like a friend who's always like, hey, we both have AMC Stubbs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go see movies.
[SPEAKER_00]: And he did cry.
[SPEAKER_00]: That could have been us.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I rested my eyes for a little bit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's just say that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you know, let me just, I'll listen to whatever's going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, it was fun for the fun for the family.
[SPEAKER_00]: All the sheep had, you know, a voice over actor that was a big name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: 94% I rotten tomatoes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a lie?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, it wasn't that for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it was a fun flick.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel maybe youth could find it fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Young, how how youth youth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I just I won't believe that that the sheep detectives has more tomatoes than the family stone I can't and I won't I think a big problem for me with the sheep detectives was
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, it was like, No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even explain the bad to be honest because it was a who done it, type of movie, like it lined up all of the, you know, the suspects type of thing and you had to kind of piece it together.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're a little neat, see drew.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where's the sheep AI?
[SPEAKER_00]: The more I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: CGI, CGI, CGI.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or any of the sheep wearing berets?
[SPEAKER_00]: No berets for the sheep, but it's a beret made of sheep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Some are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right, so maybe they were wearing unformed braze.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, continue.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even complain about what I want to complain about because the whole it for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, the whole I'm not going to see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, should I spoil it then?
[SPEAKER_00]: The whole proof of the of the who done it relied on something that I was kind of like,
[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit like I was like that's kind of not what would happen if if if the events happen like that that's not what would happen to that happen I don't know how to explain without kind of spoiling but when you watch it viewers and you will
[SPEAKER_00]: Think about how I might know how that might not happen, how that, how they are saying it would happen.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and so that kind of took me out of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you're telling me the proof that you want me to be like, aha, moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: It relies on that as a, I wasn't sold.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, I think, I'm sorry that happened to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would have liked if they're going to go all in on the celebrity cameos of all the sheep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get Dr. Dillamand up in here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have a little crossover.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really Dr. Dillamand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's Dr. Dillamand?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm thinking if there's a crossover, why not have Dolly?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know who that is?
[SPEAKER_00]: Dolly, the clone.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where was she?
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think she's retired or dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think people ate her?
[SPEAKER_01]: So she's dead?
[SPEAKER_01]: When she died, yeah, for sure, didn't they clone her in the 90s?
[SPEAKER_01]: She don't live that long.
[SPEAKER_00]: They have a new shot for cats that makes them live double the length of lives.
[SPEAKER_00]: Really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, 30 years for a cat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now if you give it a shot or something,
[SPEAKER_01]: Dali the sheep died on February 14th.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's Valentine's Day, by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: 2003, at the right, whole day of six, which is not close to the average lifespan for sheep.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but very long lifespan for clones.
[SPEAKER_00]: She had a lung disease.
[SPEAKER_00]: many clones to do and severe arthritis.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but are we assessing the health of the sheep she was copy pasted from because maybe the copy pasted.
[SPEAKER_00]: The origin sheep had a long problem too.
[SPEAKER_00]: true.
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyways, no, no, don't go see the cloned pet detective.
[SPEAKER_00]: The sheep detectives.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Where was where was where was Ace Ventura?
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's this dillard guy you were talking about?
[SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Diliman?
[SPEAKER_00]: from wicked, the goat officer, okay, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think he should have made a cameo.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he, they should have booked some, what's he's doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: He's underworked.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's teaching.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's teaching.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know teachers often need a second income.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they should be on the farm or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so maybe wait wait to see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did see it in the middle of the day on a weekday and there were old people in the audience who laughed at everything in the plot.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that kind of was fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a trigger for me when I see a movie and they roll a preview and people laugh at a part in a preview that's not funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, here we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'm in that crowd.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it opens with, you know, the lion roar of the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
[SPEAKER_00]: Not one laugh, not, he was like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, I was like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: I also saw obsession.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome for the recommendation.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was already going to see it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Cory did text me and say, stop what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go see.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm testing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there I was Friday, night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some might even call it opening night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, obsession, theater.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a seven PM showing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was seated and seated.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got there early so we could eat our proper dinner before the
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, baby.
[SPEAKER_01]: I loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought how fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought how scary it was.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like I was like tense the whole time.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was one of those scary movies for me when you leave and it's like did I just get in a car accident because my whole body felt a little tense on edge on a little on edge.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought the pacing was a scary movie, and it was kind of like, ugh, and it kind of went there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the pacing was incredible.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the acting was incredible across the board.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought both the leads were so good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just loved it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it was, uh, did you see the movie,
[SPEAKER_00]: monkey or the monkey or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think you told me it was bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was the horror movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this year last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you something.
[SPEAKER_01]: Clap and
[SPEAKER_00]: the clapping monkey toy horror movie okay it reminded me a little bit of that because it was like um it felt like it could kind of be in the same world of like uh uh uh uh uh wishes and fun yeah i think you buy that um if you's strongly of my will terrible results
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's funny because I don't always like movies that like lean into that sort of like scary aspect of like magic and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought it was very well done.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even even in the part towards the end where they're trying to figure out the magic behind the toy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they handled that scene very well when he like goes back to the store where he bought it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not really a spoiler, but
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am getting constantly distracted by whoever's outside laying on their horn.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I do apologize.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you live in the big apple.
[SPEAKER_00]: There are people that are trying to get places go around the block.
[SPEAKER_00]: People are parking in the bike lane.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in a temporary home.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, carry on to what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I'm like, carried on.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on a one way street people love to lay on the horn.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I was getting dropped off to move into this temporary home, our Uber stopped in the street to let us out and let us get our bags in our belongings and unload like six or seven suitcases.
[SPEAKER_01]: In a car pulls up behind us and is laying on the horn.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, oh, baby, the way you know I'm petty the way I almost just stopped and said, I'll wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: You think if you think you're doing that while you can see us unloading the trunk's going to move things along.
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it's a go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they have a preview during it that did disturb me, but I guess I'll wait.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have anything more you want to say about a possession?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was just going to say and the lead bear.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: did you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: That lead woman.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, she really had the range.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I thought they were both.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she is a star.
[SPEAKER_00]: She really, like, yeah, he was good.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, I'm like, she was able to perform the experience to the full extent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Indie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was like, I knew her name.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought everyone was great.
[SPEAKER_01]: The people you were supposed to hate in the movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you hated the people you're supposed to like you liked Didn't like that didn't didn't like the um The Sandwich No, you know me.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like sandwiches in general Well, there was a preview actually.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was
[SPEAKER_00]: for obsession or preview before the sheep detectives, probably before the sheep detectives, based on what it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a new Paul Patrol movie coming out.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, this was definitely a bad of the sheep movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Paw Patrol, the Dino movie.
[SPEAKER_00]: So there I am thinking, no, dinosaurs did not exist at the same time as dogs, humans made dogs.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's first of all.
[SPEAKER_00]: So are the cap dogs, first of all arrest are the dinosaurs?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are they time traveling to go what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Create a police state for the dinosaurs?
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I thought our detectives cops are the sheep, copaganda.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where are we?
[SPEAKER_00]: It might just surrounded by copaganda at all times these days nowadays.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, in the form of dogs, in the form of sheep.
[SPEAKER_01]: So here, well, here I am on Paw Patrol, the Dino Movie Wikipedia that says the plot per the plot section, it says the Paw Patrol end up in an unknown world filled with dinosaurs.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, it's a less current time traveling, honey.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I don't like they're there to help in the dinosaurs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm sure, oh, I'm sure they're, oh, I'm sure they're helping.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, oh, I'm sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not all Paw Patrol dogs are cops.
[SPEAKER_00]: And well, that's a butt.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how they call you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But all cops, but all cops, Paw Patrol characters are bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yes, did you enjoy the Spotify logo change app update while it lasted?
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't care, and I thought people that cared really need to press, find God, understand that there are, there are people dying Kim
[SPEAKER_00]: You mean to tell me people really have enough energy to construct a thought that they wanna share out loud about an app changing its logo for a week, not even changing the logo, giving a themed version of the logo for a week saying we're gonna change it back in a second, don't worry.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so people really have the, the, the, the, to complain about it, who cares?
[SPEAKER_01]: People be complaining.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are those people, I guess I'm complaining about the complainers.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, and about the sheep detective.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't, I don't think that impacted my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have a big thought about it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was more concerned with.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was more concerned with the, the 120 song playlist that they made for me of my most played songs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'll listen.
[SPEAKER_00]: My first song was a sugar land song.
[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that Cory must have made my account.
[SPEAKER_00]: And logged in.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were living together when it says I created my account.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what was your first song?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, it was a song by Duncan Sheek.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you familiar?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, but, but not his one big hit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it was his in between goal.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, in between what his big hit is not big hit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not barely breathing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was some other song by him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, did I hit shuffle?
[SPEAKER_01]: Was this when I had Spotify with ads?
[SPEAKER_01]: Did I hit the cup and stuff was this on my douchey mix?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what is what's the name?
[SPEAKER_01]: do-shing-mix?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, of the song.
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it called on a high?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, was I on a high when I heard it?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Cory.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't even really fuck with barely breathing by Duncan Schicks.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what mindset was I into think, let's try to hear his next song?
[SPEAKER_00]: We will never know.
[SPEAKER_01]: and and that song was actually about 10 years old when I played it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe yeah, no, maybe it was um, you were feeling some type of way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Day one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I was.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did just finished Big Brother 23. proud of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm five years late.
[SPEAKER_00]: The cookout, iconic, legendary, the best, best alliance and big brother history, that's what people are saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I haven't seen every season yet, but from every season, I haven't seen it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was rooting for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is this too late?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is it my love to spoil a little bit?
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so happy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was so happy when the door closed and they were able to celebrate that they made their day well 6% alliance all the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'd been holding a grudge against Alyssa for plugging her swimsuit line in the first episode.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I understand why you cheered as she walked out the door in
[SPEAKER_01]: That was her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, no, I loved it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was, uh, it was kind of,
[SPEAKER_00]: giving a moment for me to experience the origin story of a couple of characters that I've been aware of, so like Tiffany, who I met on traders, who I didn't really understand on traders.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got some context to maybe why people were threatened by her on traders, because she really was
[SPEAKER_00]: If a season has a winner that is the best of the season, it would have been her.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, where's the CFN money?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they do do a fan favorite.
[SPEAKER_01]: Since you won the fan favorite, I think she did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: You tell me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she did.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did tweet that I just watched it and, um, big D replied to the tweet and said, let me come on the podcast and talk.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, Corey, I have a little surprise, bring him in, bring him, bring him a big Z.
[SPEAKER_01]: He and I have had beef on, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, don't say he and I, he's here or say you and I, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
[SPEAKER_01]: He and I have had beef on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_01]: I I think during the sometime during that season or after I had tweeted He was awful and he replied.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like some on this season and you know what I enjoyed Every vote to a Vic Julie.
[SPEAKER_00]: I I vote to a vote
[SPEAKER_00]: The way he invented new ways to vote, to evict every single week, brought me joy.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I was really on every time he was in detention.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine.
[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't tell.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he ever speak on it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Did he ever have a comment?
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me break it to you.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was not intentional.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it brought me joy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I honestly, I felt from because like a lot of challenges are hard if you are bigger.
[SPEAKER_00]: And like a lot of the things that it came down to, it's like damn, that would be very hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you had to, if you were a fatter person, if you have a larger amount to like balance or to pull up, it's like, damn, some of these challenges, you are really disadvantaged if you're hanging on a wall.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I love the season, though.
[SPEAKER_01]: He, he, he, he does his rounds.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does his like podcast and commentary and stuff post the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been very vocal that he's upset that he's the only cookout member to not be invited to another show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because Xavier, Kylen to Osah have all done the challenge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tiffany's done traders and Hannah's done the amazing race.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, um, Hannah did the amazing race with her sister.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did I see that?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was the last season.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, uh, I was waiting for any moment of Claire and Derek even having some type of
[SPEAKER_01]: Can I comment on this because you like that by the race?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I knew that they would go on to the race.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm thinking, oh, am I going to see some type of spark of a moment?
[SPEAKER_00]: To suggest that they at some point link up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because don't they link up?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think they're took, I think they've since broken up, but they were together for quite some time.
[SPEAKER_01]: A showman's off the show, off the show, off the show, offman's, offman's.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, it made me, it made me really happy to see the cook out, and then once they succeeded in getting their alliance all the way, them having really meaningful conversations about the Black Experience in America and the Black Experience on,
[SPEAKER_00]: reality TV and seeing representation in what that means of a while like I just I thought it was really important especially Now I'm watching Big Brother 5.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm taking it back.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going back to the beginning to really honor an economist and
[SPEAKER_00]: The way they treat the one person of color on that season, explicitly that that's on so many seasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can like name that exact like situation, especially if it's it's uncomfortable and it's
[SPEAKER_00]: really just like mind blowing that people are, I guess it's a different time, especially going back all the way to Big Brother 5 of people not really caring how they're perceived in a influencer way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like people aren't afraid to get canceled in some type of, you know, like what's the worst that's gonna happen to some of these people, they're gonna go back to their hometown and be micro celebrities, but not have to be, not have to answer for any of their actions, you know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now it was, you're not going to get into a sideline and message to kill yourself and your DMs and all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: But there are some things happening in season five of Big Brother that I'm like, um, you're telling me they didn't intervene.
[SPEAKER_00]: And or like, no, they're intervening these days.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, with all that said, I was very happy with Big Brother 23 for the cookup.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: We watch for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: We do have to talk about survivor.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so cyber 50 in the books it's in the books it ended last night for us and what did you think I was very I was very happy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean going into this season once they revealed the cast honestly, seri was my top choice for winner Aubrey was my second choice the entire time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have been a Aubrey Stan since co-wrong her for a season.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have always thought she's one of the greatest players.
[SPEAKER_01]: People be arguing online all day today as to whether or not she deserved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: She has
[SPEAKER_01]: She now has the best average placement out of any four time player that's ever played the show.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, I don't understand how people can just like overlook certain things like that and say she was non-deserving.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we also still live in a survivor world where...
[SPEAKER_01]: that they will always prioritize a man's storyline over a woman's regardless if the woman ends up winning.
[SPEAKER_01]: So people saying we didn't know what she did in the first half of the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they don't have a great track record of showing the female perspective for winners.
[SPEAKER_01]: She also, um, I do think there's a huge portion of luck involved with all of these shows with amazing race with survivor with big brother.
[SPEAKER_01]: She didn't go to the, she didn't go to tribal council at all in the first half of the game because her tribe continued winning.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a huge luck factor that benefited her.
[SPEAKER_01]: But once she did start going to tribal council, she was the only, she was on the bottom.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do think she played from the bottom the entire game.
[SPEAKER_01]: But somehow she was the only one of the final three that voted correctly in every tribal council.
[SPEAKER_01]: Neither Joe or Jonathan could say that going into the finals.
[SPEAKER_01]: So she clearly had her ear on the ground.
[SPEAKER_01]: She clearly had connections with every player in the game and was building enough of a relationship to get her by.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think she certainly played a lot of the Sandra strategy, which is anybody but me.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen it pay off for Sandra twice.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen it pay off for other people.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just don't understand why people A underestimate her, but B also don't give her her flowers when I think she's absolutely one of the strongest female players ever played the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I trust your judgment because you have the full context.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get it as somebody who was introduced to Aubrey this season.
[SPEAKER_00]: They did not paint a pretty picture from day one because yeah, if you're a newer era survivor fan, which is, I would say it was what I am, you probably know Genevieve more than you know Aubrey.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so who's this woman who's just weirdly like anti Genevieve?
[SPEAKER_00]: is how they introduced Aubrey and so like right off the bat I'm kind of like um this is like a woman with the weird projected insecurities and she's projecting them onto onto a gen of Eve.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is what the edit told me and so like what else am I supposed to think of this woman for the first half of the season other than like she's aligned with people I don't like and she dislikes randomly one of the girls that I hope does well and so like I'm like um
[SPEAKER_00]: she wasn't doing it for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: But near the end, they, I guess, were able to convince me because I was like, okay, well, I guess out of these three, who do I, who would I root for?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Christian was really right when he said it's a battle of narratives.
[SPEAKER_00]: who is telling the story that people are buying the most, and Tiffany was absolutely correct, and it was a $2 million mistake of everyone else's when they thought, I can be Aubrey's narrative.
[SPEAKER_00]: because as soon as they, as soon as Aubrey made it to the end, it was hers.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, nobody else had a chance, except for a pre-made zoom alliance, a few votes from that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they weren't voting for who they thought played the better game.
[SPEAKER_00]: They were voting for who they made a pre-
[SPEAKER_00]: season zoom alliance with and they just wanted that zoom alliance to win that pissed me off so much I I wish that they had called that out at the tribal because the way that they were just campaigning for Jonathan at the tribal I was glad Tiffany said something because it was annoying I was like um that's not a question
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I think they were all probably fed up because I think what you forget and what we don't see is they're all sitting at Ponderosa And you know and all and you know they're all just talking about the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I should have cut a what a this and that you know they're already Like jocking for position on who they think should win.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they were probably fed up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Chrissy had been singing Jonathan's praises for for the two weeks that they were there and people like D. Intifity and Cere were probably tired of it
[SPEAKER_00]: But the value of seri going to jury and probably rooting for you is
[SPEAKER_01]: That could that would win you the season they said this every season seri has played that she has made it to the jury She has voted for the correct winner and there you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: She is she is voted for the person who ended up winning I will say it's funny to me to like like we I like I said at the beginning we all watch A story that they're telling us in 90 minutes every week we we all watched 12 90 minute episodes and for anybody to think that those
[SPEAKER_01]: 12, 90 minutes episodes gave them more insight than the people who sat and played the game for 26 days every minute every hour every second to think you know better than the people who vote for the winner I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just think it's delusional
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was I was bummed for Rizzo.
[SPEAKER_00]: I loved Rizzo again.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was.
[SPEAKER_01]: I That's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am a 100% certified Rizzo hater.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I love Rizzo since day one.
[SPEAKER_00]: RZGOT risk a baby They made a they made a new survivor legend this year and he will be back as many times as Boston Rob baby and and you know what we're gonna be better for it
[SPEAKER_00]: because he's at least not insufferable, like some of the, the returning people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Him saying to me, him saying through tears.
[SPEAKER_01]: After season 49, I promised myself, I do whatever it takes, not to end up in this position again, referring to having to make fire at Final Four.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, except for he will do anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: It takes to not be in that position, except for actually practice building fire because he just had 25 days to sit there and could have practiced every day and did not do it.
[SPEAKER_01]: it's pathetic.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And to listen to Jonathan say it was such a trauma for him that he literally spent the last 25 days practicing fire every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's like yeah, there was something about Jonathan that really made me kind of root for him in the finale a little because I was like, okay, he really
[SPEAKER_00]: prepared.
[SPEAKER_00]: He put in the work.
[SPEAKER_00]: He put in the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can tell he is practicing all of these types of challenges.
[SPEAKER_00]: He said, I would like to come back and not make the same mistakes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hated seeing people come back and make the same mistakes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: I did too.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I think you need to put a little bit of growth between some of these characters and some of their times playing because I do not think Joe was at any place to come back and play a new game or a galvanized game in any sort of way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they try to tell me that he changed his game and that he lied and steamed whale.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't think I never thought of him this season in a different way than I thought of him the first season, like I wasn't like shocked or surprised by any, any move whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and that's why they took him to the end, because the new thing didn't have the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even listening to him tell Tiffany, she was being emotional, when we had to watch him be emotional and be hung up on dev getting devins out for weeks on weeks, like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, men.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was definitely bummed for Tiffany.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was definitely bummed for Rizzo.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was definitely bummed for Surrey and Christian and Ozzy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, was it my ideal final three?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I happy with the outcome?
[SPEAKER_01]: Am I glad an old school player won 1,000%.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, I did also like the conversation that they kind of had to have with the jury of old school versus new school and people really, the old school people not really getting what it meant to be new school.
[SPEAKER_00]: They thought it would just meant being unloyal.
[SPEAKER_00]: When it really is more about being flexible and being able to go with what's happening and recalibrate.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I find a lot more value in that than just like a game of,
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, did I pick the right people day once we'll line with and hope for the best?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, right, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: I see so many people complain about the twists and complain about the things they do now to mix it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is good.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does get a little frustrating sometimes, but honestly when I really think about it, like I would much rather watch that and watch the underdog occasionally have a chance versus
[SPEAKER_01]: Those like early seasons where you would get in a alliance of like six and they'd be a voting block and after the merge You would have seven you'd have like four boring episodes in a row because they would just pick off the other tribe one at a time one at a time And it's like I don't miss that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't those episodes were hard when you're like, okay Well, I know who's going home next week the only person left in the in the opposing alliance
[SPEAKER_00]: I love seeing all, all my girls get their brand deals.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're little commercials during the live show.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're Corona sponsorship.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever, I love seeing, that was fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Will you be seated for Charlie and Camilla?
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I'm a white lotus.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, I'll be back in my quiet.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would like maybe them to die, the cameo to be a little bit more fun than just, you know, a wave at the restaurant, like sitting in the back of the restaurant, let them have a little moment, let a throat, who cares, have fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think Aussie was sad, he's not going to be on white lotus.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, Aussie seems like he's needed some therapy for about a year, so I
[SPEAKER_00]: I did love the, the honoring of seri her getting her award.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, were you, what was your reaction when when what went down went down with riso with Jeff?
[SPEAKER_01]: it's funny like I it's clearly wasn't Jeff's fault like production sets that up there's like cue cards set up there's a teleprompter but as soon as they were like going to commercial and he's like let's bring riso out I immediately was like okay well riso loses like there's wired why not bring them both out so it's like at first I was like watching it in real time being like what
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like there, there's no world they would be bringing just riso out unless he was and yes, I was like, oh my god, so they're they're going to bring riso do a little and then bring Jonathan do a little talk a little and then come to it and then no and then it just it just buy was so uncomfortable.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, I was like, oh no, I mean at least he didn't accidentally spoil.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was a huge, it was a huge spoiler for the, they built up all the attention of will he be able to David versus the wife of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't uphill battle, it was his to lose, but I still think they were able to build some tension about it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like damn, they really fucked that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's like, what I shouldy thing to do because as much as I don't really care for him and he's not my cup of tea, I will acknowledge how much of a fan favorite riso has been these last two seasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for him to go out with like absolutely no suspense and Jeff just like flubbing it, I'm sure a lot of fans were.
[SPEAKER_01]: severely disappointed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was suck.
[SPEAKER_01]: But listen, I guess you should have used one of your 25 days on the island to practice making fire instead of just laying in the hammock all day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Go off.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just keep thinking about that scene of him with the girls being like, oh, I'm not a guy's guy like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I ain't looking to play with the boys cut to him being like, final three all men.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, anyways, I enjoyed this season more than I thought I would because as soon as I heard about the zoom alliance I was pissed, I hate pre-gaming for an all-star season.
[SPEAKER_00]: All star seasons of any reality show are kind of ruined for me because of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I would much rather see all new people which they showed the preview and it's all new people.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm seated and seated.
[SPEAKER_01]: The rumor is all newbies for 51.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a rumor that it's going to be a mixed cast of returners and newbies for 52, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, where can people find you?
[SPEAKER_00]: You can find me at the barray store trying to find something that'll fit Grogu's little nagging.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, and you can find me filming my audition tape for Survivor.
[SPEAKER_01]: 53?
[SPEAKER_01]: It's putting it in the mail.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, everybody, cross your fingers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye.