WEBVTT 00:13.778 --> 00:19.925 [SPEAKER_07]: Let's go in on you're listening to the froth cast coming at you not live from the internet. 00:20.105 --> 00:23.990 [SPEAKER_07]: It is Wednesday May 13th I'm Vince Mancini. 00:24.110 --> 00:25.812 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm joined as always. 00:25.913 --> 00:26.353 [SPEAKER_07]: You know him. 00:26.854 --> 00:27.394 [SPEAKER_07]: You love him. 00:27.434 --> 00:28.996 [SPEAKER_07]: He is the irregular Mr. Matt Lee 00:30.418 --> 00:32.600 [SPEAKER_05]: Yo, hey, listen up, it's your cousin. 00:33.080 --> 00:33.981 [SPEAKER_05]: You're cousin, Marvin Hitler. 00:34.061 --> 00:35.582 [SPEAKER_05]: Hey, you know the new sound you were looking for? 00:35.642 --> 00:48.992 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, listen, listen, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you, 00:49.412 --> 00:50.813 [SPEAKER_05]: So hi, so glad to be here. 00:50.833 --> 00:51.973 [SPEAKER_07]: It's your cousin Hitler? 00:52.153 --> 00:55.815 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah, yeah, Marvin Hitler. 00:57.155 --> 00:59.576 [SPEAKER_07]: Also joining us, of course, third bike. 01:00.176 --> 01:01.457 [SPEAKER_07]: You also know him and love him. 01:01.817 --> 01:03.157 [SPEAKER_07]: Future NFL Hall of Famer. 01:03.517 --> 01:05.978 [SPEAKER_07]: Actual, human giant, Brendan. 01:06.959 --> 01:12.541 [SPEAKER_06]: You'll still carry his ESA in a gunny sack, walking all salin by the railroad track. 01:29.605 --> 01:42.531 [SPEAKER_07]: Last week when we were talking about the biopic Michael, which famously depicts the life of Michael Jackson without going into any of the molestation or like plastic surgery stuff, I don't even think it. 01:42.772 --> 01:43.652 [SPEAKER_07]: It ends before bad. 01:43.672 --> 01:44.392 [SPEAKER_07]: I still haven't seen it. 01:45.293 --> 01:46.513 [SPEAKER_07]: Matt was making a joke. 01:46.693 --> 01:52.956 [SPEAKER_06]: Which just in case you missed last episode, like I found myself reflecting on this quite a bit over the last week. 01:54.257 --> 02:18.479 [SPEAKER_07]: you make a Michael Jackson biopic you're like they let's just end it bad you're right yeah just amazing just incredible choice yeah it's for especially like it'd be one thing if that was like an artistic decision but like that was a hundred percent driven by you know we need the rights to the song so we're gonna pretend this is an artistic decision you please this state yeah we need the estates blessing to 02:18.719 --> 02:30.252 [SPEAKER_05]: to do exactly exactly I mean that is the way biopics are now is you have to have full buy-and from the propagandists of the person who you're trying to make the propaganda film of. 02:30.720 --> 02:36.462 [SPEAKER_07]: And yet, you still have to spend the entire press tour pretending that this was all an artistic decision. 02:36.482 --> 02:42.125 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like, yeah, the family said to, you know, X-ray on the old station May, we can't do that for this one. 02:42.185 --> 02:43.265 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, exactly. 02:44.025 --> 02:52.429 [SPEAKER_07]: So while we were talking about that, Matt made the joke that it'd be funny if you made a Hitler movie without any of the Nazis. 02:52.529 --> 02:53.769 [SPEAKER_05]: Without the Holocaust. 02:53.809 --> 02:54.690 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, not the Holocaust. 02:54.890 --> 02:56.530 [SPEAKER_05]: And just kept it to him as an artist. 02:58.391 --> 03:01.132 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and a pure joke. 03:02.133 --> 03:09.195 [SPEAKER_07]: A few people emailed me, including Earl Buddy Zach, Johnston from Uprox, but he will formally Uprox. 03:09.696 --> 03:11.396 [SPEAKER_07]: We don't talk about that anymore. 03:11.436 --> 03:21.300 [SPEAKER_07]: He pointed out that someone already made this movie, and it was called Max, and it came out in 2002, starring John Q. Zach, don't worry, not as Hitler. 03:23.901 --> 03:36.132 [SPEAKER_05]: But as the titular as the titular max and starring I don't know who played little Hitler young young Hitler Sort of like a young sheldon of of Hitler. 03:36.152 --> 03:38.894 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, the actor hit Young thug. 03:39.235 --> 03:40.296 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, young thug. 03:40.336 --> 03:44.860 [SPEAKER_05]: Little why why you and Little bow wow little Hitler, you know 03:46.309 --> 03:46.710 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry. 03:46.730 --> 03:47.490 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm looking up his name. 03:47.510 --> 03:47.851 [SPEAKER_07]: Hold on. 03:48.131 --> 03:48.371 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. 03:48.431 --> 03:49.532 [SPEAKER_07]: I forget his name. 03:49.552 --> 03:52.074 [SPEAKER_07]: He's a fairly like well-known face. 03:53.355 --> 03:54.816 [SPEAKER_07]: He's a classic ugly guy. 03:55.197 --> 03:55.617 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. 03:55.697 --> 03:57.138 [SPEAKER_07]: He's Australian. 03:57.158 --> 03:57.979 [SPEAKER_07]: He's his name. 03:58.820 --> 04:00.501 [SPEAKER_05]: Is a no-a-taler. 04:00.781 --> 04:02.463 [SPEAKER_05]: He looks like he was in a Harry Potter. 04:04.575 --> 04:09.440 [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know if that's the case, but he was in life aquatic almost famous. 04:09.740 --> 04:11.161 [SPEAKER_07]: He was in shine. 04:11.341 --> 04:12.102 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, wait. 04:12.122 --> 04:22.352 [SPEAKER_07]: He was was he inherited Hamilton to okay, so he wasn't in Harry Potter's what I'm peaky blinders Keep drawing this peaky blinders 04:23.593 --> 04:25.716 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, maybe I do know, and maybe I do know this guy. 04:25.776 --> 04:27.939 [SPEAKER_07]: Let's just to give you an idea of the kind of face he has. 04:28.059 --> 04:30.903 [SPEAKER_07]: He's in the Borges and his role was Mortician. 04:31.443 --> 04:34.788 [SPEAKER_07]: So like, think about, yeah, I feel like that says a lot. 04:35.108 --> 04:35.368 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes. 04:35.609 --> 04:42.017 [SPEAKER_07]: Think about the normal face that was in the Borges and then and then just like add, okay, he hit a, he played a mortician. 04:42.297 --> 04:49.841 [SPEAKER_05]: Anyway, it's so hilarious, so it's hilarious that they act like this was completely to me. 04:49.881 --> 04:56.965 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, what's the most ridiculous version of the Michael Jackson not doing the molestation or the like changing of skin color thing? 04:57.965 --> 05:04.932 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, I don't know, Hitler being an artist and they're like, no, you have to understand that they've made every type of Hitler movie. 05:05.493 --> 05:12.039 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and I will defend this one because it's not like this was a choice mandated by the Hitler estate. 05:12.079 --> 05:13.100 [SPEAKER_05]: No, right, exactly. 05:13.120 --> 05:20.908 [SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't like, you know, all of the, yeah, the Hitler estate got together and said, oh, you must, if you must make it, it has to be just his early stuff. 05:22.009 --> 05:43.023 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, just just say hits before things got a little He got a little carried away a little way a little blow chid You know this is him when he was at his job You want to see the movie about the drug hit love ironically the estate had some really good lawyers on it Extract those concessions 05:43.563 --> 05:48.730 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I just love that they straight up made a biopic of Hitler. 05:48.770 --> 05:50.653 [SPEAKER_05]: That was like Hitler. 05:50.733 --> 05:56.341 [SPEAKER_05]: I told you hate Jews ain't gonna put no food on no table. 05:56.421 --> 05:57.042 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah 06:00.807 --> 06:02.068 [SPEAKER_07]: It's my favorite line. 06:02.469 --> 06:14.383 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, there's this Harkin's back to a time when people were unafraid to write trailer lines in the movies And I really love that about it, but there's one point where Max Gross, I think no something gross 06:15.111 --> 06:28.671 [SPEAKER_07]: uh... roth i wasn't a rotsman no what rotsman is john qsex yeah the the guy who was played by the guy from rom uh... kevin the kid uh... yes he asked john qsex what's his name hitler never heard of him or will 06:31.214 --> 06:56.543 [SPEAKER_07]: So it's so amazing because it is beat by beat a music biopic about like fucking Freddy Mercury Yeah, but with the like caveat of like all-dent Freddy Mercury goes and does the whole course What you know what you know what it is it's and this like dawned on me about halfway through the movie I'm like God who does this guy playing Hitler remind me of he plays Hitler as like a you know disaffected like goth 06:57.203 --> 07:18.128 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we're better and um, and I realize it's fucking make love in like he is playing Hitler as goth make love in Yeah, and John Q's act is doing Jim from the office basically so it's like Goth make love and Hitler will be like I want to kill all the Jews and I would say and don't keep Exactly like Class of my Q's acts performance 07:18.428 --> 07:21.492 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I would say it's more manic pixie-dream-ju. 07:21.852 --> 07:24.095 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, yes, 100%. 07:24.255 --> 07:24.816 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 07:24.836 --> 07:27.419 [SPEAKER_06]: You ever heard of something called whimsy Hitler? 07:29.782 --> 07:32.025 [SPEAKER_05]: I just, I have all of these ideas inside me. 07:32.125 --> 07:33.246 [SPEAKER_05]: I got to get them out. 07:35.248 --> 07:38.191 [SPEAKER_05]: Just in the same way we have all these Jews inside of Germany. 07:38.371 --> 07:39.732 [SPEAKER_05]: We got to get some out. 07:40.352 --> 07:50.520 [SPEAKER_05]: It is It is wild how much it mirrors any like modern music biopic down to the he is 07:51.200 --> 08:15.487 [SPEAKER_05]: Told by the army, you know, hey, we'll pay you to take a speech class and he's like giving a speech talking shit about Jews and everyone's doing that thing like damn that was tight Like he said like this motherfucker spin yeah, who's in down the street in my Volkswagen Slap in the Jews Jock in the bitches slap in the juice 08:20.189 --> 08:35.856 [SPEAKER_05]: it is it is so wild that they made this mean while it's like filled with the funny thing about it is Max the character of Max played by John Cusack keeps referring to Hitler as Hitler yes there's some incredible life 08:39.478 --> 08:48.063 [SPEAKER_07]: Any any like cheesy music biopic line gets amazingly funny when you just a pant Hitler to the end of it And that is truly the magic of this mess. 08:48.203 --> 08:50.765 [SPEAKER_07]: The line that had me rolling was come on Hitler. 08:50.805 --> 08:57.169 [SPEAKER_06]: I'll buy you a lemonade Almost sorry, dude again. 08:57.209 --> 08:58.349 [SPEAKER_07]: I stepped on it Hitler. 08:58.369 --> 08:58.629 [SPEAKER_13]: Come on. 08:58.649 --> 08:59.530 [SPEAKER_13]: I'll buy you a glass of lemonade 09:01.891 --> 09:10.913 [SPEAKER_07]: It's so close to my pitch for the Snickers commercial with Hitler, where it's like, you know, you get a little anti-Semitic when you're hungry and then he eats the Snickers and he turns back into a regular guy. 09:10.933 --> 09:20.095 [SPEAKER_05]: This one is a little, this one is like a, a little bit harder to hear, but the line is, you're a hard man to like Hitler. 09:29.140 --> 09:30.241 [SPEAKER_05]: but I'm gonna try it. 09:31.861 --> 09:38.544 [SPEAKER_06]: So now hearing that now, hearing that now, I can't help but say, they are 100% playing that for laughs. 09:38.564 --> 09:39.145 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 09:39.185 --> 09:43.347 [SPEAKER_06]: But when I was watching the movie last night, I was very confused. 09:43.427 --> 09:47.309 [SPEAKER_06]: It was really hard to put my finger on whether or not they were playing it for laughs. 09:47.369 --> 09:49.249 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's directed by a European. 09:49.330 --> 09:50.550 [SPEAKER_07]: And so you kind of never know. 09:50.690 --> 09:54.312 [SPEAKER_07]: It's particularly, it's directed by someone from the Netherlands. 09:54.352 --> 09:56.853 [SPEAKER_07]: So he's like Dutch, you know. 09:56.953 --> 09:57.193 [SPEAKER_07]: Right. 09:59.074 --> 10:04.720 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, outside of, uh, outside of Boss Root and famously not good at jokes, but that's true. 10:04.760 --> 10:05.261 [SPEAKER_05]: That's true. 10:05.481 --> 10:11.027 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I don't know, though, because there are moments in this movie that are... 10:12.244 --> 10:28.772 [SPEAKER_05]: almost like it like this movie tells the line between being um you know about um you know the trauma uh experience by soldiers in World War one uh and like kooky buddy comedy with my best free Hitler. 10:29.373 --> 10:30.473 [SPEAKER_07]: So I'm gonna say this. 10:30.673 --> 10:32.434 [SPEAKER_07]: I like this better than Jojo Rabbit. 10:34.835 --> 10:40.517 [SPEAKER_07]: I think it is, I think it is much better than Jojo Rabbit, and I am like old, that's so cold. 10:40.577 --> 10:41.678 [SPEAKER_05]: Are you in my wrong though? 10:42.118 --> 10:48.960 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I like to better than Jojo Rabbit, but I think, I think we might be, I think we might be wrong though. 10:48.980 --> 10:58.864 [SPEAKER_05]: Like I'm willing to admit that on an objective level, I might be, I might have just hated Jojo Rabbit to a degree that is unfair to Jojo Rabbit. 10:59.184 --> 11:02.166 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, no, I like Jojo Rabbit in concept. 11:02.226 --> 11:16.656 [SPEAKER_07]: I just feel his timidness and like wanting to make a point about it, but then backing away from it because, you know, he was fairly, he was seem like he felt like he was getting too much heat, and he's sort of back away from the point he was making. 11:17.016 --> 11:22.180 [SPEAKER_07]: This one, like while it is unintentionally, I think, funny at a lot of points. 11:22.720 --> 11:38.304 [SPEAKER_07]: I think there is a interesting truth that it is getting at, which, like, and I've read a ton about the Nazis and, you know, I always, I read, you know, the rise and fall of the third right, when I'm trying to fall asleep. 11:38.364 --> 11:39.665 [SPEAKER_07]: So I listen to it many times. 11:39.865 --> 11:46.226 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know why that's just interesting to me, but it's also the guy's voice, I think, on the audio book is very soothing. 11:46.306 --> 11:46.947 [SPEAKER_05]: Fantastic. 11:47.007 --> 11:47.827 [SPEAKER_05]: No dynamics. 11:47.867 --> 11:49.567 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just one tone the whole time. 11:49.627 --> 11:50.107 [SPEAKER_05]: So you don't have to 11:52.455 --> 12:19.385 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and between that and going to like certain museums in Germany, I feel like my main take away from the Nazi period is it really did feel like they were doing a bit and then they just had to like they got trapped into it in a bit that they were doing and I think like in having Hitler be like the sky was trying to find his voice as an artist and it kind of feels like he got trapped in the bit and that was like kind of I feel like that's what happened. 12:19.825 --> 12:20.506 [SPEAKER_05]: That's interesting. 12:20.546 --> 12:27.131 [SPEAKER_05]: So he got audience captured a little bit and yeah, he's just like, I'm just giving the pig is what they want. 12:27.191 --> 12:28.832 [SPEAKER_05]: This is the slot they asked for. 12:28.852 --> 12:30.294 [SPEAKER_05]: The Hatings of the Jews Slope. 12:30.794 --> 12:38.500 [SPEAKER_07]: And you just, you know, you make, you talk all the shit about warriors and all this like, you know, grand, red right. 12:38.620 --> 12:43.764 [SPEAKER_07]: It's sort of a troll and like, it made him feel really good, but yeah, then they had to actually do it. 12:43.944 --> 12:45.626 [SPEAKER_07]: And like, very early on, 12:46.266 --> 12:58.841 [SPEAKER_05]: in that war it was kind of very clear like oh yeah you you you fuck this up and you're gonna lose and now you're stuck in it yeah yeah you're stuck pretending you gotta stay on brand yeah damn that's crazy I love that theory 12:59.287 --> 13:23.681 [SPEAKER_05]: I think the only reason why I bulk a little bit at the idea is that this is better than Jojo Rabbit, even though I truly do like this better than Jojo Rabbit, but it's because I had a better time, I got more laughs out of it because of the, I think mostly unintentional nature of some of the bits, but there were good intentional jokes as well. 13:23.701 --> 13:24.402 [SPEAKER_05]: There's like one. 13:25.362 --> 13:39.873 [SPEAKER_05]: where they essentially, in order to show Hitler at his pre-hittler levels, they're trying to make him this sort of tortured artist archetype, which is so funny. 13:40.133 --> 13:44.636 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, he's like veto's goth's son, he's his new meta-hitler. 13:48.759 --> 13:54.482 [SPEAKER_06]: So it's my time for two pieces because God's video is basically just video at the bar at the leather bar. 13:54.622 --> 13:59.866 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yes, so he is like he is being emo. 14:00.966 --> 14:05.529 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like his Hitler haircut is just straight up an emo haircut. 14:05.589 --> 14:06.850 [SPEAKER_05]: Which is right. 14:06.870 --> 14:11.092 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't think that's intentional, but they also make him like no man. 14:11.272 --> 14:11.592 [SPEAKER_06]: It was 2001. 14:12.753 --> 14:21.025 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, make 2, 2, 2, 2, maybe it was intentional, um, I don't know, but there are a few parts that have to be intentional. 14:21.525 --> 14:27.854 [SPEAKER_05]: One was a joke where they just started like, they decided to make Hitler like a annoying woke guy. 14:29.215 --> 14:48.187 [SPEAKER_05]: They make him woke annoying Hitler at one point Max who is like this character is essentially He's the John Q sack John Q sack is an art Critic dealer no accent at all, which is a lot Yes, there's a major issue in this movie with accents because there's some sort of 14:49.367 --> 14:51.488 [SPEAKER_06]: You know, European slash German accents. 14:51.908 --> 14:54.908 [SPEAKER_06]: There's some British accents, which of course is sort of the default, right? 14:55.088 --> 14:55.808 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 14:56.509 --> 15:01.650 [SPEAKER_06]: And then yeah, then John Q-Sack just has just is just John Q-Sack. 15:01.770 --> 15:03.810 [SPEAKER_05]: And he is, you know, he's a gallerist. 15:03.890 --> 15:07.351 [SPEAKER_05]: I think he like he runs galleries who puts on our shows and stuff. 15:07.371 --> 15:08.031 [SPEAKER_05]: He's an art dealer. 15:08.271 --> 15:09.051 [SPEAKER_05]: He's an art dealer. 15:09.091 --> 15:11.592 [SPEAKER_05]: He's missing an arm from he was also in the war. 15:19.714 --> 15:29.400 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, uh, Hitler refers to him as mench, which I know is German also for like, you know, man. 15:30.161 --> 15:36.065 [SPEAKER_05]: But like, it is very funny to have Hitler continue to call you a mench over and over again. 15:36.465 --> 15:37.946 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just like, you're a mench. 15:38.867 --> 15:40.808 [SPEAKER_05]: Look, look, it's a Chinapunum. 15:42.509 --> 15:46.812 [SPEAKER_05]: He just expects him to speak and get his two of them. 15:47.112 --> 16:07.806 [SPEAKER_05]: But when he make him a world killer, one point, he just given a speech that's filled with anti-Semitic shit and he runs, he sees it at Mac sees it, walks away, later, Hitler's done with a speech and runs up to him and he's like, oh, hey, I'm honored that you came to my, I hate to choose speech. 16:07.966 --> 16:08.946 [SPEAKER_05]: Thank you for coming. 16:09.407 --> 16:10.187 [SPEAKER_05]: What did you think? 16:11.568 --> 16:13.949 [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, just, I think, I think that's what leads to sort of the tone of, like, that darn Hitler. 16:14.229 --> 16:27.353 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 16:27.473 --> 16:41.765 [SPEAKER_05]: So then, you know, he talks, Max makes this thing, or he tells him about the saying they haven't Spain, and I have that clip. 16:42.726 --> 16:44.107 [SPEAKER_13]: You know what they say in Spain, don't you? 16:45.568 --> 16:46.069 [SPEAKER_13]: No, I don't. 16:46.089 --> 16:48.471 [SPEAKER_13]: It's easy to fight the bull from the borrower. 16:48.831 --> 16:53.054 [SPEAKER_13]: The bull fighting is completely immoral, it's violent, I'm disgusting. 16:53.134 --> 16:53.415 [SPEAKER_13]: I know. 16:53.855 --> 16:55.656 [SPEAKER_13]: I mean, it's easier to be critical, I don't understand. 16:57.922 --> 17:08.842 [SPEAKER_05]: Having him just be like autistic, it's again funny choice, I feel like that's a very like kind of good choice from what I know about Hitler 17:09.253 --> 17:20.025 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's I go back and forth on this movie so I it's what I jump at watching this movie again not really I'm showing it to more people. 17:20.285 --> 17:23.428 [SPEAKER_06]: I Yeah, there's a lot there. 17:23.488 --> 17:24.189 [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot there. 17:24.229 --> 17:27.532 [SPEAKER_06]: There's a lot of food for thought and I like I found myself asking 17:28.713 --> 17:50.207 [SPEAKER_06]: Very interesting questions about Hitler that maybe get glossed over in light of, you know, some of the other stuff The Holocaust, but it is like Did he just not get to joke and then life and then and then then the question there was like why didn't he get the joke was he perhaps Not great at picking up on social cues and making eye contact Yeah, right? 17:50.347 --> 17:53.629 [SPEAKER_05]: Is there a bit of a is he on some sort of spectrum? 17:53.909 --> 17:56.971 [SPEAKER_06]: Let's say frustrated artists or frustrated artists 18:04.373 --> 18:15.536 [SPEAKER_07]: I did not think about him being neurotypical in this movie, but definitely like an overly serious guy who is joyless and doesn't get jokes. 18:15.956 --> 18:19.657 [SPEAKER_06]: But like I do think that that has some much more like 18:22.453 --> 18:40.503 [SPEAKER_06]: some, some load bearing aspects because at the end of the day like, and you even see this with some of the other disaffected veterans, including Max, which is like, there's some people who saw the carnage of the First World War and were like, 18:41.624 --> 18:49.274 [SPEAKER_05]: Wow all that for this what a fucking joke right and then like his take away was like we didn't go hard enough Right, yeah, yeah, stop joking. 18:49.935 --> 18:56.684 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no Like as far as the movie goes as a absolutely one of those 18:57.865 --> 19:10.127 [SPEAKER_05]: Over-sensitive Twitter comment, there's early blue sky views, who's just like, oh, uh, we supposed to believe that's one of your jokes with like, yeah, like, really the original blue sky guy. 19:10.307 --> 19:17.288 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, not getting like satire and not getting like, so, like, not getting the nuances of funny things in that way. 19:17.348 --> 19:26.090 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, you know, young Hitler's writing a thread about the rehabilitation of Shane Gillis, and it's just a really mad at it. 19:27.230 --> 19:29.792 [SPEAKER_05]: Even though he's like, listen, I agree about the Chinese. 19:30.812 --> 19:34.214 [SPEAKER_05]: What's the fact that you let him get away with this because of jokes? 19:35.055 --> 19:44.721 [SPEAKER_06]: Who's that fucking weirdo that like Peter Teele says, and that all the press is trying to like suck up as a as like a visionary, but he's like a total fucking idiot. 19:45.181 --> 19:46.762 [SPEAKER_06]: I mean, you just described that. 19:46.842 --> 19:49.203 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, Curtis Yarvin. 19:50.604 --> 19:52.346 [SPEAKER_06]: You ever actually read what that guy says. 19:52.366 --> 19:54.248 [SPEAKER_06]: It is so stupid. 19:54.448 --> 19:57.691 [SPEAKER_06]: It is the dumbest, most submental bullshit. 19:57.711 --> 20:02.396 [SPEAKER_05]: They're all like young Hitler, like why you wouldn't see Hitler. 20:02.717 --> 20:08.282 [SPEAKER_07]: So as far as like whether this is a movie worth watching or like a good movie, I feel like the main 20:09.123 --> 20:17.671 [SPEAKER_07]: Problem with it is that it's called Max and it's mostly about this guy named Max when it really should have just been called young Hitler And like just straight up focus 20:28.580 --> 20:54.750 [SPEAKER_07]: Because I think it is insightful into his character and into like the psyche of that kind of people were, you know, like they do get trapped in a bit and they can't, like they're, I feel like the main case the movie makes is that like his Hitler was like a frustrated artist because he couldn't, um, he could never, uh, like the infractor. 20:55.010 --> 20:55.610 [SPEAKER_07]: Being touched. 20:55.690 --> 21:23.646 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, being touched with his own feelings enough to make great art like he couldn't he couldn't get there And he was constantly trying which I do think there's something to do that of course, but it's so funny to make a movie about Hitler trying to find his voice Yeah, yeah, you know, it all it's like it's not even necessarily wrong But it's also seems very like reductive and silly the way it's like well, yeah, it's like what does him shows him add an easel like trying like drawing a line It didn't mean like aah 21:24.211 --> 21:46.608 [SPEAKER_07]: The other part of it is when it plays like it because like that's the part of it that plays like a fail the origin story Which is interesting, but then it also plays like a an unintentionally comedic like successful origin story Where he's writing in his notebook art plus politics equals power It's a clip from this. 21:46.728 --> 21:49.030 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, where it's like in an alternate world 21:49.730 --> 21:59.658 [SPEAKER_06]: In an alternate world where like Germany won the war and like the 4th Reich rain for a thousand years It's like this movie comes out, but it's like, can you imagine what would have happened with this guy actually learn how to fucking draw? 22:01.680 --> 22:08.085 [SPEAKER_07]: It's just like, it's he's doing mom spaghetti with the hoodie on He's like doodling so I just 22:11.548 --> 22:26.333 [SPEAKER_05]: The funniest thing is whenever he's like at an easel, like in my mind, I was like, if they had committed to like this is gonna be a comedy, every time he turned around, it just was like, he's like squinting at it. 22:28.680 --> 22:44.893 [SPEAKER_07]: holding his thumb out, there's like a scene where he just, he's been struggling as an artist's entire movie and he finally doodles like an entire B-roll montage from Triumph of the Will and who is no book and and and John Q. sex like Hitler. 22:45.313 --> 22:55.481 [SPEAKER_05]: This is the finest where you've ever done so good I love yeah they actually yeah they look like Triumph the Will storyboards yes 22:57.342 --> 23:00.764 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, here's a, you sent me a clip of politics as a new art. 23:00.784 --> 23:01.604 [SPEAKER_05]: You want me to play this? 23:01.724 --> 23:06.246 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, because I think part of this is recognizing how fucking much his voice sounds like McLevin. 23:06.687 --> 23:08.868 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 23:08.888 --> 23:11.489 [SPEAKER_14]: This is the new art rock. 23:13.450 --> 23:21.294 [SPEAKER_14]: I realized something that all you wait to wait the types missed, drinking your coffee, smoking your cigarettes with your mistresses. 23:22.394 --> 23:25.816 [SPEAKER_14]: The way to reinvent art is not to make it political far too small as dead. 23:26.875 --> 23:27.536 [SPEAKER_14]: No, Rosman. 23:28.456 --> 23:30.899 [SPEAKER_14]: You could say you and I were plowing the same. 23:31.199 --> 23:32.140 [SPEAKER_14]: Faro's for a while. 23:32.660 --> 23:34.041 [SPEAKER_14]: But then I made the bigger leap. 23:35.222 --> 23:37.704 [SPEAKER_14]: Politics is the new art. 23:38.725 --> 23:42.168 [SPEAKER_14]: Yes, Rosman, my whole life, my whole life has been a detour to this moment. 23:42.609 --> 23:50.556 [SPEAKER_14]: Everything I've struggled to learn about art about design, color, composition, theater, opera, architecture, and stuff and all into this and make it live again. 23:51.037 --> 23:56.924 [SPEAKER_13]: Well, Hitler, I've always thought you'd be an intuitive, you're just so disciplined. 23:57.004 --> 23:59.968 [SPEAKER_14]: Am I only acceptable to you if you can classify me? 24:01.049 --> 24:06.235 [SPEAKER_05]: My fuckers out here being like, you know, labels are a Jew. 24:10.122 --> 24:12.623 [SPEAKER_06]: Secondly, to dangerous all of us generalizations. 24:12.984 --> 24:27.711 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, I love him being written as someone who's like, you know, it's like trying to be a stand-up comic, but instead he's like decides to just buy a comedy club. 24:27.751 --> 24:31.933 [SPEAKER_05]: Like that's sort of the thing with the like politics. 24:31.993 --> 24:33.094 [SPEAKER_05]: It's a, you know, 24:34.595 --> 24:42.379 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a whole time I've been trying to paint to make art, no but real art, real art is the thing that have already getting paid by the army to do. 24:42.679 --> 25:01.150 [SPEAKER_07]: It's just it is it's so perfect and also that's that's sort of what I mean when I say that they got trapped in the bit like I don't think you have the Nazis If you don't have the background of you know that inner war period where everyone's like getting super like artsy and gay and then and 25:01.590 --> 25:06.431 [SPEAKER_07]: And then you have this group of guys who are just like, you know it would be the OTSY's gays thing ever. 25:06.451 --> 25:09.272 [SPEAKER_07]: As if we are for uniforms and you beat everyone up. 25:09.352 --> 25:10.853 [SPEAKER_05]: And we all worked like goose. 25:11.293 --> 25:11.933 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. 25:11.953 --> 25:12.253 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. 25:12.473 --> 25:14.794 [SPEAKER_06]: Like I really think that is a lot of it. 25:15.274 --> 25:16.294 [SPEAKER_06]: Like I was in a goose. 25:17.475 --> 25:21.756 [SPEAKER_07]: Like we're doing, we're doing the real art by being like incredibly controlled. 25:21.836 --> 25:26.137 [SPEAKER_05]: Slick, sleek, black, matte, black, you know, just black on black. 25:26.397 --> 25:28.678 [SPEAKER_06]: But if the salute was like a girly man going, 25:31.460 --> 25:44.358 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like something hot like a Roman hot Roman guy just doing like a salute You know the reasons it's a Roman Empire lasted so long because of all the hot guys there Who just didn't they said whatever? 25:44.378 --> 25:46.280 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't give a fuck fuck you bitch 25:47.370 --> 26:10.991 [SPEAKER_06]: I did like that there's like one of the major kind of touchstone moments of Hitler's radicalization is he sees a play that's being put on at the barracks and it's these guys with Marionettes and it's telling the story of the Aryan god R who's corrupted by Jews and the only thing I could think about and this is obviously on a desert with the only thing I could think about is I'm like 26:11.471 --> 26:16.154 [SPEAKER_06]: Damn, if that really happened, then Hitler was like one of the first guys to get one shot at by AI. 26:16.454 --> 26:16.654 [SPEAKER_06]: Right? 26:16.674 --> 26:20.316 [SPEAKER_06]: You watch Puppets fuck and he's like, this is how everything is now. 26:20.796 --> 26:25.579 [SPEAKER_05]: The funniest thing to do is like, it was like a fucking back in whatever. 26:26.460 --> 26:28.421 [SPEAKER_05]: However, many thousands of years ago, old, 26:30.642 --> 26:45.369 [SPEAKER_05]: Aryan pagan legend that this guy is telling and then, you know, it's a perfect, you know, Aryans like, uh, had, you know, blue eyes and blonde hair and then they were tempted by swathy foreigners. 26:46.230 --> 26:58.216 [SPEAKER_05]: And then it shows this like, marionette, you know, Aryan getting, you know, fucking a, you know, brown hair girl swore that you and then a bunch of like 26:58.956 --> 27:22.586 [SPEAKER_05]: Hasidic Jews are they now are just kind of doing it's a crowd like wait a second Look at like this is already like a legend Why do you like the Jews were like hasidic back in like history This fucking insane It's so they'd be dancing around because their woman successfully can 27:24.787 --> 27:30.651 [SPEAKER_06]: My guess on that was like the the protocols of the elders' Zion go back to like what the 1800s or something. 27:30.671 --> 27:30.891 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 27:30.911 --> 27:31.211 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:31.251 --> 27:31.531 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:31.571 --> 27:31.852 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:31.892 --> 27:32.032 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:32.072 --> 27:32.172 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:32.192 --> 27:32.312 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:32.332 --> 27:32.572 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:32.592 --> 27:32.752 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:32.932 --> 27:33.252 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 27:33.332 --> 27:36.014 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm guessing is how they would like justify it. 27:36.114 --> 27:36.374 [SPEAKER_06]: You know. 27:36.655 --> 27:37.115 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. 27:37.175 --> 27:37.435 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 27:37.495 --> 27:40.577 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean I I think it's uh I mean look I. 27:42.757 --> 27:45.559 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that was comedy, I think it was played for laughs. 27:45.939 --> 28:00.788 [SPEAKER_05]: I can't imagine it wasn't because it is so the contrast is so ridiculous between like fucking Aryan god and just, you know, guys with to fill in on dancey around. 28:01.488 --> 28:12.092 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, not that like to fill in this necessarily like a acidic thing, but it's just like the the entire, I don't know, I thought it was like pretty clearly a joke. 28:12.232 --> 28:14.713 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean to build those marionettes was so funny. 28:15.193 --> 28:15.814 [SPEAKER_05]: You know what I mean? 28:15.834 --> 28:19.035 [SPEAKER_07]: They're playing to an audience of like dumb sailors, but the thing was that 28:19.508 --> 28:24.733 [SPEAKER_05]: The funny thing was, too, was there was, like, also this bit of, okay, here's how our publisher was going to go. 28:24.753 --> 28:30.338 [SPEAKER_07]: Is it you, we lived as good, and then ours, the other Jews would be dancing around as he fucks up. 28:30.438 --> 28:41.969 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's also a bit of, like, weird revisionism in terms of, like, Nazi race science in which, like, they're like, 28:43.030 --> 28:57.126 [SPEAKER_05]: looking at the Jews and he's going like, I actually really, you know, I admire the fact of the fact that they only sleep within their own race, you know, we should really try that and I'm like, keep the blood pure. 28:57.186 --> 28:58.568 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they keep the blood pure. 28:59.709 --> 29:15.699 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like watching that and I was going like this feels a little bit like, um, uh, I mean, I'm sorry, but the idea of intermarriage or intermixing went both ways for every group of people for like a long time. 29:15.839 --> 29:17.580 [SPEAKER_05]: Like there's there was no, uh, 29:18.060 --> 29:24.866 [SPEAKER_05]: specifically, you know, Jewish dedication to not marrying outside of their community. 29:24.886 --> 29:34.793 [SPEAKER_07]: It's kind of like they're doing anti-Semitism and they're being like, I learned it from watching you, you straight up straight up, I was like, okay, well that's I learned it from watching you, I learned it from watching you! 29:37.095 --> 29:43.781 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but it was still, it's incredibly funny because I don't know how much of it. 29:43.821 --> 29:53.249 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, I'm, I never read my income for, you know, whatnot, but I'm sure that there's some version of, 29:54.770 --> 30:08.696 [SPEAKER_05]: Justification that Hitler has like early on for his anti-Semitism that you know is like actually actually I really respect Zijus, you know the way he he does to me doing jewellery Like you were you was doing phylo-semitism. 30:09.037 --> 30:09.657 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 30:09.717 --> 30:10.918 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, but I don't know 30:12.399 --> 30:29.161 [SPEAKER_07]: There is a moment where he's talking about emotional antisemitism like where he's like he's he's making a point to say that he's against emotional antisemitism and I couldn't that one was like too abstract for me I couldn't tell what they're trying to communicate to me there 30:30.388 --> 30:58.640 [SPEAKER_07]: uh... i yeah i don't know what uh... which which scene was this it's very early on and like they're arguing about communism in the barracks and then the army guy is like it no uh... anti-semitism actually it's it's the socialism of fools like us uh... or whatever but Hitler is kind of like it's saying Hitler's anti-anti-semitism at the beginning because he says like emotional anti-semitism is immature and it should be like a government 30:59.020 --> 31:02.184 [SPEAKER_07]: job or something, says it's like it should be like sewage. 31:02.244 --> 31:04.887 [SPEAKER_07]: I couldn't figure out what the hell he was talking about, but I'm sure it's. 31:05.167 --> 31:06.588 [SPEAKER_05]: Again, there's like a confused. 31:06.669 --> 31:10.172 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a bit of this weird revisionism. 31:10.713 --> 31:13.876 [SPEAKER_05]: I suppose it's to give him some sort of an arc, like, you know. 31:13.897 --> 31:14.137 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 31:14.457 --> 31:30.783 [SPEAKER_05]: you know there was a time where he was um you know uh he was he was very friendly to the Jews until he met this one of our healer until he was max who told them he wasn't good at art and he said well fuck it I'll make my own Germany and be great at art 31:31.343 --> 31:37.526 [SPEAKER_07]: There's a weird arc where Max has a mistress, um, and Maybe it's risky. 31:37.546 --> 31:42.089 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, Lily Sobieski who hasn't, I guess she retired a while ago, but So what happened? 31:42.649 --> 31:54.095 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I see her face was like, uh, it was like a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a 31:54.335 --> 32:02.942 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, she was like Timo Helen Hunt and we're every and she was about to be like She was she was she was young hunt for yeah, at least our generation. 32:02.982 --> 32:20.537 [SPEAKER_05]: I felt like because I always was like Helen Hunt's Old so I was never interested in in Helen Hunt where it's like Lily so B. S. K. was like our age So I thought she was I thought she was hot, but then she just kind of I don't know I guess she retired according to Wikipedia, but I think as a movie like 32:22.038 --> 32:24.600 [SPEAKER_07]: The major issues are it's like too much focus on Max. 32:25.440 --> 32:27.542 [SPEAKER_07]: He has a mistress for reasons. 32:28.202 --> 32:30.804 [SPEAKER_07]: Doesn't really like affect the story at all. 32:30.824 --> 32:32.926 [SPEAKER_06]: But it's not very important. 32:33.066 --> 32:35.467 [SPEAKER_06]: Nor is the relationship between him and his wife. 32:36.168 --> 32:39.330 [SPEAKER_06]: By the way, I learned that Molly Parker and Kate Walls are two different people. 32:40.111 --> 32:40.351 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 32:40.411 --> 32:43.153 [SPEAKER_07]: I was trying to figure out who Molly Parker looks like. 32:43.173 --> 32:46.295 [SPEAKER_07]: This is like Molly Parker, like Pete, Peacotteness. 32:48.056 --> 32:48.657 [SPEAKER_07]: Kate Walls. 32:49.704 --> 33:06.249 [SPEAKER_06]: Well, so funny or what I thought was so weird about that whole thing is like it's established in the opening scene that he is married to Molly Parker and Lily Sobioski is his mistress. 33:06.849 --> 33:09.629 [SPEAKER_06]: And so you're like, okay, well this is going to come to a head. 33:10.750 --> 33:13.471 [SPEAKER_06]: There's huge chunks of the movie where neither of them are in it. 33:14.211 --> 33:18.712 [SPEAKER_06]: And then when the wife finds out she just kind of like 33:19.152 --> 33:19.753 [SPEAKER_06]: mentions it. 33:19.773 --> 33:22.134 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and they don't really say anything. 33:22.154 --> 33:28.038 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and it's so weird that it basically has no Baring on the right thing. 33:28.078 --> 33:37.243 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think the only thing they were trying to do with that was like to have them be props for Hitler's jealousy We're Hitler's like, oh, I have zero pussy and zes guy has two. 33:37.263 --> 33:41.786 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, zes not as my part Yes, one arm and two pussy 33:45.313 --> 34:07.991 [SPEAKER_05]: the Jews as a reason I have no bitches yeah he is um yeah it's like they're making him an insell they're making no bitches rothman they're making him an insell they're making them uh like woke vegan they're making him a tortured artist they're making him emo it's like everything they're doing with this guy is almost 34:09.412 --> 34:19.215 [SPEAKER_05]: and attempt to be like, there's part of me that goes, this is a movie about how young people are only one step away from being Hitler. 34:20.116 --> 34:21.256 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 34:21.936 --> 34:22.236 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. 34:22.256 --> 34:25.857 [SPEAKER_07]: When you're finding yourself in your 20s, yeah, you might end up Hitler. 34:25.917 --> 34:28.978 [SPEAKER_05]: You might end up Hitler, which is that you're wrong, but it also does 34:34.701 --> 34:44.094 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, kind of conservative kind of right school, the in a little bit revisionist, which is why, you know, the movie itself has this really strange taste. 34:44.615 --> 34:50.624 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, as you're watching it, because you're just not sure how you're supposed to be reacting to it, like it. 34:51.425 --> 35:02.149 [SPEAKER_05]: It knows Hitler is bad, which is like, okay, good for a step, and it knows that this is going to be a story about humanizing him a little bit, which is totally fine. 35:02.429 --> 35:08.312 [SPEAKER_05]: But it doesn't know whether or not the Jews deserved it. 35:09.512 --> 35:14.213 [SPEAKER_07]: It gets, it gets sidetracked because it's about this character that we don't really care about that much. 35:14.554 --> 35:19.835 [SPEAKER_07]: And like, I think my final take on it is that I enjoyed watching it a lot and I had a great time. 35:20.375 --> 35:23.656 [SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't really come together in the end, like the ending doesn't make me think. 35:23.696 --> 35:24.236 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, right. 35:24.316 --> 35:25.197 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I did go for the haul. 35:25.377 --> 35:26.937 [SPEAKER_05]: That's the thing. 35:27.217 --> 35:36.740 [SPEAKER_05]: This is why the Michael fucking movie to me is such a funny idea because it's like, yeah, it's hard for it to come together at the end because you know of more story. 35:37.120 --> 35:43.964 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think I had to end with the Holocaust, but of course it ends with the story of Max, and I'm like, who is Max? 35:44.024 --> 35:46.326 [SPEAKER_07]: Why do I care about this? 35:46.526 --> 35:47.607 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah. 35:47.727 --> 35:54.691 [SPEAKER_05]: I have a feeling that a lot of this was rewritten and studio noted to death where they were just like, 35:55.932 --> 36:01.975 [SPEAKER_05]: So a lot of scenes with this Max guy and not enough just like what's going on with Hitler. 36:02.355 --> 36:19.084 [SPEAKER_05]: Can we please get a sequence in which Hitler misinterprets Max's wanting to sell his art on consignment as wanting to move into his studio and do an art show and he's like, come on Max, how old people are going to see my odd? 36:19.164 --> 36:21.826 [SPEAKER_05]: You said you would give me a show. 36:21.866 --> 36:23.426 [SPEAKER_05]: You said you'd give me a show. 36:24.847 --> 36:38.994 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm trying to find that Rotten Tomato, so I can find like original reviews for this, but there's so many fucking movies They have Max in the title and they're like, I mean Max to the max six eight white boys ride an eight black bulls. 36:39.074 --> 36:42.376 [SPEAKER_05]: How does that come up before Max in the Google Max 2002? 36:42.416 --> 36:47.959 [SPEAKER_05]: There it is here it is 69% of Rotten Tomatoes first of all nice nice 64% on the popcorn meter 36:52.160 --> 36:56.361 [SPEAKER_05]: So, the people, that's like the people score, whatever. 36:57.161 --> 37:03.343 [SPEAKER_06]: This is incidental to the rest of the movie, but there's a scene where he's hooking up with Lee Visobioski, his mistress. 37:03.923 --> 37:12.785 [SPEAKER_06]: And she's supposed to be like the Super Bohemian, so like his wife is kind of the traditional wealthy German, and so he's married into this very wealthy family. 37:13.305 --> 37:17.326 [SPEAKER_06]: And then he's got, it's sort of Don Draperish, right, where he's got the, he's got the 37:22.688 --> 37:29.053 [SPEAKER_06]: There's this very inexplicable scene where he goes to her apartment, and she just lights a fire on the rug. 37:29.353 --> 37:31.774 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I was like, I don't think that's how fire is working. 37:31.935 --> 37:37.338 [SPEAKER_06]: And he says like, oh, is this, I'm assuming this is like the Don Boos Boos was the way to do it. 37:37.358 --> 37:38.279 [SPEAKER_06]: Or like something like that, right? 37:38.399 --> 37:38.619 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 37:38.639 --> 37:41.901 [SPEAKER_06]: And this is kind of like, yeah, it's just sort of this funky moment. 37:41.921 --> 37:43.082 [SPEAKER_06]: It's like, oh, yeah, okay. 37:43.442 --> 37:43.803 [SPEAKER_06]: Interesting. 37:44.283 --> 37:50.084 [SPEAKER_06]: And then it like cuts back and she's just sleeping and the fucking carpet is on fire. 37:50.564 --> 38:06.088 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah and also they came dangerously close to like inventing an origin story for her where she invents the montage as art because they're showing like all her like cool girl montage and they were good montage but it felt like yeah it looks like a fucking dead Kennedy's album. 38:06.408 --> 38:07.529 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, anyway. 38:07.769 --> 38:16.194 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm loving reading some of these reviews, by the way, Ty Burr of the Boston Globe wrote, The film is torn between playing Taylor's character. 38:16.294 --> 38:17.535 [SPEAKER_05]: It's Taylor Hitler. 38:17.896 --> 38:18.436 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 38:18.856 --> 38:24.099 [SPEAKER_05]: For real, and as a dangerous joke, and I'm like, It, that's true. 38:25.120 --> 38:27.921 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, Hitler was nothing if not a dangerous choice. 38:28.181 --> 38:28.461 [SPEAKER_07]: Right. 38:28.521 --> 38:29.321 [SPEAKER_07]: That is his whole. 38:29.741 --> 38:30.841 [SPEAKER_07]: That's kind of his whole deal. 38:30.861 --> 38:33.782 [SPEAKER_05]: He is both real and a dangerous choice. 38:33.822 --> 38:39.243 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, my favorite anecdote of Rise and Fall of the Third Reich is when he would get mad and chew on the carpet. 38:39.363 --> 38:44.225 [SPEAKER_07]: Like, I was just trying so hard to picture a guy getting literally chewing scenery. 38:44.645 --> 38:46.425 [SPEAKER_07]: It like literally chewing the carpet. 38:46.465 --> 38:47.786 [SPEAKER_07]: Wait, what do you mean? 38:47.846 --> 38:48.666 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember that. 38:49.066 --> 38:50.246 [SPEAKER_07]: You don't remember that? 38:50.286 --> 38:51.566 [SPEAKER_07]: That's a thing that he would do. 38:51.626 --> 38:53.607 [SPEAKER_07]: He would get mad and chew on the carpet. 38:54.407 --> 39:00.171 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember, but what do you, so I'm sitting on the floor as a baby. 39:00.191 --> 39:00.952 [SPEAKER_05]: So he was a baby. 39:01.512 --> 39:03.213 [SPEAKER_05]: No, he was a grown man. 39:03.233 --> 39:04.935 [SPEAKER_05]: So I'm sitting right now at a desk. 39:05.635 --> 39:07.136 [SPEAKER_05]: I have a carpet right below me. 39:07.897 --> 39:09.237 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm getting mad. 39:09.438 --> 39:15.862 [SPEAKER_05]: So does that mean I am now going down flat on my tummy and starting to chew on the fibers of the carpet. 39:16.145 --> 39:35.796 [SPEAKER_05]: that's correct yes that's crazy dude you know what i'm starting to think you know what here's what i'll say here's what i'll i'll say to that you're an awesome hard man to like him yeah there oh my god but yeah this like the reviews of this are uh pretty mixed um 39:36.837 --> 40:01.528 [SPEAKER_05]: there's there's one review that that says the director focuses too much on max when he should be filling the screen with this tortured dull artist and monster in the making which I I love that's the less yak in more wackin I'm going to kind of agree that it should have been more about that right I'm one of those basic point yeah he's he's uh the the max 40:04.970 --> 40:16.093 [SPEAKER_06]: like he always kind of works as a foil to Hitler so when they like have long periods of time where we're like exploring his you know internality or whatever it's like okay this is fucking boring 40:16.392 --> 40:26.395 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, like I like Q sack as a screen presence and all of his line reads like made me laugh, but like that character Yeah, as as as a as a prism for the rest of the movie. 40:26.415 --> 40:28.416 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think that character is very interesting. 40:28.676 --> 40:39.780 [SPEAKER_07]: I'm I'm seeing a review A five out of five review from someone named Anita Schmaltz, which She feels like an amazing name This movie does not need any more small. 40:39.820 --> 40:40.340 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah 40:41.969 --> 40:42.510 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, man. 40:42.811 --> 40:44.034 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, man. 40:44.496 --> 40:45.197 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. 40:45.458 --> 40:46.200 [SPEAKER_05]: I really 40:47.603 --> 40:59.189 [SPEAKER_05]: I was really shocked by how captivated I was throughout the entire thing and the fact that the movie flows in this way that's great and is legitimately funny. 40:59.309 --> 41:01.310 [SPEAKER_05]: I just don't know whether it's intentionally funny. 41:01.710 --> 41:02.350 [SPEAKER_07]: I will say this. 41:02.850 --> 41:15.976 [SPEAKER_07]: One of the things that, you know, this is from 2002 and it did make me miss the era when screenwriters were intentionally trying to write, like I said, sort of trailer lines. 41:17.517 --> 41:46.508 [SPEAKER_07]: We've moved away from like corny dialogue, but like there's an intentionality to this kind of writing to where it's like, okay Yes, it's like corny and on the nose, but at least like they felt like they were consciously trying to create interesting language, which I feel like a lot of movies just like don't do anymore, and It's sort of yeah, it makes a it makes scene sort of pop in a way that a lot of movies do not nowadays 41:49.639 --> 42:07.931 [SPEAKER_07]: I actually wrote down the line that John Cusex says when he sees Hitler doodling swastikas and he says, you finally found your voice, the future as a return to the past. 42:08.612 --> 42:09.912 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, it's great. 42:11.205 --> 42:19.827 [SPEAKER_07]: I also like the beginning scene where the army guy I don't it's supposed to be like Who is that a person that we're supposed to know like is that girl bowls or somebody? 42:20.667 --> 42:21.468 [SPEAKER_05]: No, no clue. 42:21.768 --> 42:22.248 [SPEAKER_05]: No, who? 42:24.188 --> 42:29.569 [SPEAKER_07]: No, I guess his name is Captain Mayor and he's played by like stock Nazi villain actors 42:31.990 --> 42:40.072 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I guess it's not supposed to be it, but yeah, there's that scene early in the movie where he's like We're going to teach you something. 42:40.552 --> 42:41.992 [SPEAKER_07]: It's called propaganda. 42:42.032 --> 42:42.853 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, all right. 42:43.353 --> 42:46.693 [SPEAKER_05]: All the kids are doing it now Yeah, just he's listening to it. 42:46.713 --> 42:47.814 [SPEAKER_05]: Just wow. 42:47.914 --> 42:50.194 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like him hearing pet sounds for the verse. 42:50.274 --> 42:55.636 [SPEAKER_07]: No, it's like the scene in in In the garden state or it's like, oh, have you listened to this? 42:55.696 --> 42:56.676 [SPEAKER_07]: It's called propaganda. 42:56.696 --> 42:57.656 [SPEAKER_07]: I'll change your life. 42:57.676 --> 42:58.156 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah 43:02.277 --> 43:06.801 [SPEAKER_05]: I think I know this solid B plus man. 43:06.861 --> 43:13.385 [SPEAKER_05]: I got to say shout-out to the listeners for Pointing out that sometimes our bits are not bits. 43:13.505 --> 43:19.109 [SPEAKER_05]: They're just real life things that happened It turns out this is a real movie. 43:19.310 --> 43:24.353 [SPEAKER_05]: They actually made it and Solid B plus of a movie 43:25.634 --> 43:27.236 [SPEAKER_07]: Would you say it's your struggle? 43:27.756 --> 43:29.738 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's his problem. 43:30.098 --> 43:34.422 [SPEAKER_07]: I really wish there would have been a scene where he like happens upon the title of my struggle. 43:34.442 --> 43:35.823 [SPEAKER_05]: And like, oh, yeah. 43:36.023 --> 43:36.364 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 43:36.444 --> 43:38.205 [SPEAKER_05]: Now, sometimes I feel like that. 43:38.606 --> 43:41.929 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that was the fake trailer that I came up with, which is like Hitler. 43:42.509 --> 43:43.750 [SPEAKER_06]: Art's not supposed to be easy. 43:43.870 --> 43:45.151 [SPEAKER_06]: It's supposed to be a comp. 43:45.832 --> 43:46.733 [SPEAKER_07]: Hahaha. 43:46.793 --> 43:47.293 [SPEAKER_07]: Hahaha. 43:52.016 --> 44:06.240 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, so you know what if Hitler was McLevin and he had an art dealer mentor who was like Jim from office That's been dude if they had gotten to the just him being in jail and then getting out it truly would have just been Walk hard a do we call story? 44:06.440 --> 44:09.561 [SPEAKER_05]: You know or like Ray Where he's like comp hard. 44:09.681 --> 44:10.742 [SPEAKER_05]: I need a fellow story 44:13.623 --> 44:19.186 [SPEAKER_05]: Uh, Volk, Volkard, the Jui Cox. 44:19.826 --> 44:20.286 [SPEAKER_05]: All right. 44:20.306 --> 44:20.807 [SPEAKER_07]: Stand back. 44:20.927 --> 44:23.328 [SPEAKER_07]: A dog has to think about his whole life before he speaks. 44:23.588 --> 44:23.928 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 44:24.729 --> 44:26.690 [SPEAKER_07]: It's just him smoothing his hair and then it won't happen. 44:26.710 --> 44:27.170 [SPEAKER_05]: What are you doing? 44:27.390 --> 44:28.771 [SPEAKER_05]: It's called antisemitism. 44:28.891 --> 44:30.692 [SPEAKER_05]: You don't want no part of this shit. 44:36.335 --> 44:37.896 [SPEAKER_06]: Ah, my razor broke. 44:38.737 --> 44:40.317 [SPEAKER_06]: Actually, I like this look on you. 44:40.337 --> 44:43.459 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 44:45.020 --> 44:48.001 [SPEAKER_05]: But Hitler, you must have even finished being shaved. 44:48.742 --> 44:50.222 [SPEAKER_05]: Just a big press conference. 44:50.262 --> 44:53.064 [SPEAKER_05]: Hitler, what did you mean when you said you were big as in Jesus? 44:54.224 --> 44:58.506 [SPEAKER_05]: I just was trying to explain that, you know, I didn't mean anything by it. 44:58.526 --> 45:00.908 [SPEAKER_05]: But you know, it's fucking, yes, I'm big as in Jesus. 45:02.248 --> 45:11.451 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh my god, I do think Hitler was the Freddie Mercury of anti-Semitism you know like he just he fed off the crowd the crowd fed off him. 45:12.592 --> 45:18.294 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh my god Matt, we didn't talk about this last week like I wanted it. 45:18.314 --> 45:19.134 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm so sorry. 45:19.494 --> 45:29.078 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry Hitler later in life after like a bunch of you know hit hit books and records goes to visit an ailing Ernst Roam 45:30.638 --> 45:31.658 [SPEAKER_05]: It's kind of killing him. 45:31.678 --> 45:39.601 [SPEAKER_05]: He just goes there and he's just like man when we were in a band together We was a greatest thing ever. 45:39.641 --> 45:43.782 [SPEAKER_05]: What happened to us because they were during those days at the Beohal 45:46.843 --> 45:48.164 [SPEAKER_05]: We never put you anymore. 45:48.304 --> 45:53.827 [SPEAKER_05]: I just back before, you know, all the glitz and the glamour and the killing of the jewels. 45:55.207 --> 46:02.551 [SPEAKER_05]: We were just, you and me at the beer hall, telling us, doing our art, singing our songs, telling us stories. 46:03.052 --> 46:03.532 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, sorry. 46:03.572 --> 46:08.394 [SPEAKER_07]: Somewhere, as a cause of this final solution, it seems like we lost sight of what was important to us. 46:09.715 --> 46:14.317 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh my god, I can't believe it. 46:14.918 --> 46:15.178 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay. 46:15.880 --> 46:16.480 [SPEAKER_05]: Moving on. 46:16.921 --> 46:17.301 [SPEAKER_05]: What else? 46:17.321 --> 46:17.601 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 46:18.301 --> 46:31.489 [SPEAKER_07]: So I put a clip in there where they're asking all of the California governor, governor, Gubernatorial candidates, like whether Israel's doing a genocide. 46:31.929 --> 46:33.050 [SPEAKER_05]: Is that the, is it? 46:33.750 --> 46:34.451 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's the one. 46:34.471 --> 46:36.332 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, here it is for your listening. 46:40.197 --> 46:45.122 [SPEAKER_05]: And these are the Democratic candidates for the governor? 46:45.183 --> 46:45.403 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. 46:45.623 --> 46:46.824 [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's all of them. 46:46.884 --> 46:48.326 [SPEAKER_07]: It's the Republicans, too. 46:48.626 --> 46:50.128 [SPEAKER_11]: It's not a word that I use. 46:50.488 --> 46:51.810 [SPEAKER_11]: We don't know what happened there. 46:52.050 --> 46:53.772 [SPEAKER_11]: There should be an investigation. 46:53.912 --> 46:59.538 [SPEAKER_09]: I do not believe that Israel's actions in the Middle East is a genocide. 47:00.218 --> 47:00.358 [SPEAKER_03]: No. 47:01.358 --> 47:07.141 [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure I'm qualified to define it, but what has happened to the Palestinian people I think is going way too far. 47:07.321 --> 47:13.864 [SPEAKER_02]: I think what the Netanyahu government has done in Israel cannot be classified as within international norms. 47:14.124 --> 47:20.027 [SPEAKER_15]: Benjamin Netanyahu's government has been pushing very aggressively against the idea of a... 47:20.167 --> 47:21.648 [SPEAKER_15]: I think that's something serious. 47:22.608 --> 47:27.810 [SPEAKER_15]: We need to focus on what it will take to save lives there. 47:27.870 --> 47:30.831 [SPEAKER_15]: You spend a lot of time fighting over the meaning of a world. 47:30.871 --> 47:31.671 [SPEAKER_15]: Yeah, that's true. 47:31.691 --> 47:35.292 [SPEAKER_15]: That's a human tragedy in the time of children dying. 47:35.332 --> 47:37.113 [SPEAKER_15]: You should be horrified. 47:37.153 --> 47:38.393 [SPEAKER_15]: I know I've been horrified. 47:38.553 --> 47:56.410 [SPEAKER_11]: my message to everyone is quit believing your phone, quit believing social media, quit this is a chance you want to use network or one frame of mind, you have to investigate, you have to use critical thinking skills because you are being led down a path to believe something that either is or is not true depending on the side. 47:56.550 --> 48:15.593 [SPEAKER_05]: all these biased journalists and gaza who we keep bombing by the way I love that I love that he's just like this passionate answer about like, you know, reading a bunch of sources, you know, and stopping lead into foolish thoughts about whether this is or is not genocide, I don't know 48:19.116 --> 48:24.900 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what you think and I don't know what I think, but I think what do I look like a genocidologist? 48:24.920 --> 48:29.364 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, all I know is anyone who has like thought on this is wild and out. 48:30.105 --> 48:32.767 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm just a humble country, a gubernatorian. 48:32.847 --> 48:36.150 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, if you saw this guy, he's a Sheriff Riverside County. 48:36.170 --> 48:40.493 [SPEAKER_05]: You'd see, that's literally his whole thing is giant mustache going. 48:40.573 --> 48:42.815 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm just a humble servant of the people. 48:43.035 --> 48:47.697 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, he's as close to walking Phoenix in Eddington as you can get like from a real person. 48:48.118 --> 48:50.479 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's a really conspiracy pill, doesn't he? 48:50.999 --> 48:54.340 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, he's a Republican governor or Republican candidate. 48:54.360 --> 48:56.081 [SPEAKER_05]: So he's like, you know, useless. 48:56.702 --> 48:59.383 [SPEAKER_05]: But here is Katie Porter's got some shit to say. 49:00.526 --> 49:05.629 [SPEAKER_08]: been all the ground and conducting an investigation, but there should be an investigation. 49:05.669 --> 49:12.815 [SPEAKER_08]: There has been enough evidence that the International Criminal Court, the International Court of Justice, should fully investigate allegations. 49:12.935 --> 49:13.455 [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I got it. 49:13.476 --> 49:15.217 [SPEAKER_05]: What the fuck are you going to check this one out? 49:15.537 --> 49:22.482 [SPEAKER_05]: She just said, I have not been on the ground to investigate this myself, but there should be one. 49:22.923 --> 49:32.730 [SPEAKER_05]: And then she goes on to talk about the courts, the international courts that are doing that and already come to the conclusion. 49:32.790 --> 49:41.217 [SPEAKER_05]: They've already indicted the leadership in Israel under a grounds of genocide or suspicion of genocide, 49:43.398 --> 49:59.712 [SPEAKER_06]: Obviously, if you have a traumatic brain injury, just so we're clear, she doesn't want to get on record that it is or is not, but she also wants to have enough of a fig leaf to be able to say, well, look, I defer to the criminal courts on this one. 50:00.092 --> 50:08.194 [SPEAKER_07]: I call it just an investigation and it's a very big fig leaf because as Matt pointed out like you could absolutely punt this and be like listen. 50:08.554 --> 50:11.995 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know what's going on there, but you know the international criminal court. 50:12.135 --> 50:18.677 [SPEAKER_06]: So that's what I really say this was the fucking gen that's what I'm gonna get to my next point which is like this is the worst response. 50:18.857 --> 50:29.821 [SPEAKER_06]: Yes, yes, like own it one way or the other be like fuck no is real for life or be like river to the sea like pick one pick a lane I mean, this is the easiest question ever. 50:29.841 --> 50:43.987 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, this is like an 80 20 issue at this point All you have to say like is it genocide just say yes and fucking move on and you know Of them can do it you can even say yes and yes and yes and yeah I'm gonna be the governor of California. 50:44.027 --> 50:47.448 [SPEAKER_06]: This is so far outside that I need to care about 50:47.748 --> 50:48.029 [SPEAKER_05]: Right. 50:48.369 --> 50:53.275 [SPEAKER_05]: And you can even go as far as saying, I'm stupid. 50:53.636 --> 51:02.367 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know shit about shit, but according to literally every human rights organization, including the ones in Israel, it is a genocide. 51:02.467 --> 51:05.451 [SPEAKER_05]: So the chances are, yeah, it's a genocide. 51:05.782 --> 51:06.543 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, exactly. 51:06.563 --> 51:09.985 [SPEAKER_07]: You don't even have to put your name on it, but you can cite here. 51:10.005 --> 51:11.006 [SPEAKER_07]: You can cite a source. 51:11.086 --> 51:15.669 [SPEAKER_05]: And the order is just like, first of all, I haven't been there to confirm myself, whether or not it is. 51:15.709 --> 51:19.391 [SPEAKER_05]: And I, of course, am the final say of my own opinion about literally every issue. 51:19.431 --> 51:21.333 [SPEAKER_05]: I have to have been there in order. 51:22.453 --> 51:24.155 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like that's a crazy standard. 51:24.615 --> 51:37.166 [SPEAKER_05]: But then when she names those, you know, organizations, she doesn't go so far as to name the conclusions that the organizations have come to, which is like peak cowardice. 51:37.246 --> 51:37.987 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, here's more. 51:38.287 --> 51:38.987 [SPEAKER_05]: Here's another guy. 51:39.368 --> 51:40.208 [SPEAKER_09]: Okay. 51:40.248 --> 51:40.969 [SPEAKER_07]: All right. 51:41.269 --> 51:42.270 [SPEAKER_09]: This is Villaragosa. 51:42.330 --> 51:44.532 [SPEAKER_09]: Don't believe it's genocide. 51:45.393 --> 51:49.837 [SPEAKER_09]: I do believe some of what I've seen is excessive. 51:50.697 --> 51:52.659 [SPEAKER_09]: I don't support Netanyahu. 51:52.760 --> 51:55.483 [SPEAKER_09]: I do believe in a two-state solution. 51:55.643 --> 51:56.624 [SPEAKER_05]: We have to make it. 51:56.724 --> 52:03.651 [SPEAKER_05]: By the way, what you're not saying is there's a gun to his head from Jay Street. 52:03.731 --> 52:05.453 [SPEAKER_05]: Now, who's this Tony Thurman? 52:06.494 --> 52:12.437 [SPEAKER_05]: Superintendent of public institutions, of public instruction, excuse me, here we go. 52:12.938 --> 52:27.866 [SPEAKER_03]: Sure, that there needs to be ways to support the survivors and to bring in humanitarian aid and to help to rebuild what has been destroyed and to create a real government for the people, for the Palestinian people. 52:28.546 --> 52:34.276 [SPEAKER_02]: I think the number of people who died in Gaza during the Israeli action was extreme. 52:34.796 --> 52:36.399 [SPEAKER_02]: I think Netanyahu should... 52:37.753 --> 52:44.978 [SPEAKER_02]: answer for all he has done before the international community because this is not the way you conduct affairs. 52:45.238 --> 52:49.901 [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I literally, if you are going to be, yeah, none of them say yes. 52:50.061 --> 53:00.928 [SPEAKER_07]: And so like, I feel like I'm going crazy watching this because it's been a week where some people are mad at AOC and then other people are mad at people for 53:01.288 --> 53:22.210 [SPEAKER_07]: being mad at AOC and those people like their point is like oh the people mad at this are the same ones who've been pushing grand platinum on us blah blah blah and I'm like pushing him on you it's like this is everybody that's everybody that's in the mainstream of the party are even like the ones that are considered progressives 53:22.991 --> 53:39.786 [SPEAKER_07]: are fucking failing the most easy yes no question in the world like the fucking writing is on the wall and not one of them can just say yes and then of course I looked up what platner said about it because I haven't been falling that I don't live in Maine I don't live 53:40.386 --> 53:54.719 [SPEAKER_07]: My take was like okay, I don't know who who fucking Janet Mills is, but I know she was like handpicked by Chuck Schumer and anyone who anyone with that pedigree is like poisoned to me Also, she's like almost 80 like I don't know that much about him. 53:54.819 --> 54:03.466 [SPEAKER_07]: I know this guy has got a skull tattoo on his chest and Right, he has been a Nazi Has been a mercenary. 54:03.786 --> 54:07.770 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, has you know our story black was a 54:08.230 --> 54:19.440 [SPEAKER_05]: black water black water mercenary like you know served and then chose to serve again and private What do you call it like militias or whatever not my ideal pedigree No, or by the way. 54:19.640 --> 54:35.013 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and it's so funny too because it's like the when at first the critiques of Grand Plattener came out I didn't know much about what was happening, you know In Maine because I don't live in fucking Maine, but I was this guy Grand Plattener 54:35.910 --> 54:57.715 [SPEAKER_05]: but the people who were going after them, initially, I mean, there were like a few, the people going after them initially were making me think based on his enemies, I was like, oh, he must be pro-Palestine because they keep calling him a Nazi and bringing up this tattoo that he had. 54:57.795 --> 55:00.536 [SPEAKER_05]: And when I heard about that tattoo, I was like, well, that's not good. 55:01.216 --> 55:15.663 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, yeah, and then you know on the left I was one of those, you know, I also was like, yeah, I mean in general, I don't fully trust anyone who's, you know, served in fucking black water. 55:17.104 --> 55:17.324 [SPEAKER_05]: But 55:18.284 --> 55:25.987 [SPEAKER_05]: I am very interested in the fact that his enemies seem to be the ones I would consider, you know, to be the bad guys. 55:26.347 --> 55:28.968 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so I have a clip of him being asked to similar. 55:29.228 --> 55:37.312 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, if we're going to have some continuity with our earlier discussion, I would say that Graham Platner is much more of a Rothman than he is a Hitler. 55:39.353 --> 55:45.075 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, despite the Nazi tattoo, he's still more of a Rothman because he's like, hey, look, I got paid to do this shit. 55:48.056 --> 55:51.397 [SPEAKER_05]: Right, right, and well, so here's how he answered this question. 55:51.878 --> 55:54.019 [SPEAKER_05]: How would you describe the U.S. relationship with Israel? 55:54.039 --> 56:08.805 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at this point, I'm just saying, you know, this is what is happening, Gaza is going, it's the moral question of our time. 56:09.623 --> 56:11.685 [SPEAKER_01]: and we failed it miserably. 56:12.266 --> 56:13.687 [SPEAKER_01]: We continue to fail. 56:14.388 --> 56:24.839 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's a genocide that has been committed in Gaza and we continue to not only not stand up against it, but allow it to happen. 56:25.159 --> 56:28.162 [SPEAKER_01]: Run political cover for it, run diplomatic cover for it. 56:28.783 --> 56:38.127 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, down the road, history is not going to remember the leaders of this nation who, of both parties, by the way, who allowed this to happen. 56:38.247 --> 56:39.448 [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to remember them well. 56:40.246 --> 56:46.208 [SPEAKER_05]: I got to say, uh, I have, uh, I have not really seen much. 56:46.228 --> 56:48.929 [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't sought out much like grand platinum. 56:49.109 --> 56:49.370 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 56:49.470 --> 56:50.450 [SPEAKER_05]: So I've been avoiding it. 56:51.070 --> 56:51.350 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 56:51.510 --> 56:53.051 [SPEAKER_05]: I haven't seen them talk too much. 56:53.091 --> 56:56.412 [SPEAKER_05]: Mostly because, yeah, I just like, I've 1000 other things in my head. 56:56.492 --> 57:03.875 [SPEAKER_05]: And I keep, I keep referring to that as like, oh, yeah, that's some like discourse thing that I, uh, I don't need in my life. 57:04.055 --> 57:22.968 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, I saw the the the the governor video and I googled this because I was curious right like what did this guy say and it's like The you know, yeah, obviously like, you know, a guy with the Nazi tattoos whose work for blackwater is not my ideal candidate either, but I think 57:23.828 --> 57:42.485 [SPEAKER_07]: the way that you make that possible is if you get like 20 different fucking choices right the governor of the most democratic state in the in the union who can't just answer the most straightforwardly obvious fucking questions in the world i think like yes everybody's afraid that this guy will you know turn out to be for 57:43.745 --> 58:00.491 [SPEAKER_07]: It turned out to be full of shit, but I think at a base level like the first lowest job, if you don't get to like, actually making our lives better, I think like one of the base things that like a politician can do is make you not feel crazy by just answering a fucking straightforward question. 58:00.871 --> 58:10.034 [SPEAKER_07]: And I think he's past that test and you make this, you make this face for him yourself by refusing to answer the most and saying the obvious thing that would make us 58:10.314 --> 58:30.267 [SPEAKER_05]: So here's my problem with the Platner discourse that was going on and it's one of the reasons that like I avoided it early was That I in general agree with the idea of you know that I mean, I'm just not comfortable with the I wasn't come to rule the Nazi tattoo thing and I wasn't comfortable with the fact that he had served that much, but I was like 58:30.907 --> 58:46.860 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, I see a apologize for that, like as he covered up the Nazi tattoo, so he covered up the Nazi tattoo, and I was like, oh, also his, he seems to be running not as a pro war pro blackwater guy, but as explicitly anti that. 58:46.880 --> 58:53.426 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, okay, so he is someone who has served to his like changed his views on stuff. 58:54.066 --> 59:00.087 [SPEAKER_05]: So then the question becomes, you know, whether or not you believe him, right? 59:00.127 --> 59:02.647 [SPEAKER_07]: Did he show his people secret heart years ago? 59:02.667 --> 59:04.908 [SPEAKER_07]: He got that tattoo or is he showing it now? 59:05.148 --> 59:09.649 [SPEAKER_05]: I asked the internet this one time and I realized this was a big mistake. 59:09.729 --> 59:16.450 [SPEAKER_05]: Early on, I said, is the issue that people have with Graham Platner based on like his fucking platform? 59:16.490 --> 59:20.611 [SPEAKER_05]: It seems like we would all, you know, like the things that he stands for, 59:23.711 --> 59:40.122 [SPEAKER_05]: and everyone was like, it's not that, it's that, you know, he's, it's that he's stupid and that he has a Nazi tattoo and that he is, and that there's, there's better people than than him. 59:40.142 --> 59:41.703 [SPEAKER_05]: We should be supporting other people. 59:41.723 --> 59:43.965 [SPEAKER_05]: And I was like, well, what do you mean, we, I don't vote in jail. 59:44.005 --> 59:44.605 [SPEAKER_07]: Show me them. 59:45.486 --> 59:46.927 [SPEAKER_07]: I was like, I don't vote in jail, man. 59:47.287 --> 01:00:09.215 [SPEAKER_05]: right now you've showed me Janet Mills and right and I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to hard know on that eventually when it became clear that Graham Platner was going to it was like far in a way the candidate who was you know polling the best and then was it Janet Mills like dropped out yeah I was like because she wasn't raising any money because no one liked her. 01:00:09.758 --> 01:00:28.633 [SPEAKER_05]: Right, and so at that point I was like, all right, so it guys, it looks like it's grand planner, you know, and people and I sort of got all of like, you know, the liberals were just like, no, no, I'm still, I'm gonna, you know what, if I were in Maine, I'd vote for Susan Collins, I was like, okay, okay. 01:00:28.713 --> 01:00:32.157 [SPEAKER_05]: So just so I'm clear, my suspicions were 100% right. 01:00:32.957 --> 01:00:45.330 [SPEAKER_05]: The fact is, is that he is anti-Israel and you guys are inventing a reason and for some reason a bunch of people on the left roofs are fucking buying into the Hasbarra. 01:00:45.410 --> 01:00:48.213 [SPEAKER_05]: I was like, listen, he might be lying. 01:00:50.295 --> 01:01:08.067 [SPEAKER_07]: He's he's he's passed the first test which is say the right things like he might not pass like do good stuff Right test, but like the other people are failing the say the right thing test People are are failing the say the series of progressive hurdles and he passed it and they did it so I don't know what you want 01:01:09.348 --> 01:01:13.333 [SPEAKER_05]: And to me, I think that's when I was like, this all feels like fake outrage. 01:01:13.373 --> 01:01:16.878 [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like people are very easily manipulated. 01:01:16.898 --> 01:01:20.442 [SPEAKER_05]: They just like, shows, grand platter as being the guy. 01:01:20.502 --> 01:01:21.303 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, here's the thing. 01:01:21.343 --> 01:01:27.150 [SPEAKER_05]: If I were a main voter, I would still probably, you know, like, 01:01:28.117 --> 01:01:40.043 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, I have a big problem with his serving in black water, but I would, I think if I was someone who was voting, if I already believe in voting, then I understand that he's the guy. 01:01:40.063 --> 01:01:43.304 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, well, consider who he's running against also. 01:01:43.324 --> 01:01:44.665 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that's what I'm saying. 01:01:45.085 --> 01:01:50.788 [SPEAKER_07]: I think, oh, no, I didn't have the clip of of Susan Collins pulling out the running shoes. 01:01:51.622 --> 01:01:52.463 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, right, dude. 01:01:52.923 --> 01:01:58.346 [SPEAKER_05]: You mean with the I think she she has like a neurological shakes or something like that. 01:01:58.386 --> 01:01:58.867 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, here. 01:01:58.947 --> 01:02:08.072 [SPEAKER_07]: I have that all done like Ben or can clip and sign had to like apologize for what what was that about no okay, his article. 01:02:08.152 --> 01:02:09.673 [SPEAKER_07]: Why is Susan Collins shaking. 01:02:11.154 --> 01:02:21.019 [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, with a single tweet last week, I forced virtually every major media outlet to finally report on 73-year-old main center, Susan Collins Collins visible and worsening tremor. 01:02:21.539 --> 01:02:22.919 [SPEAKER_07]: But they're still not telling the truth. 01:02:23.340 --> 01:02:28.642 [SPEAKER_07]: After Governor Janet Mills dropped out of main center race, I was curious who upstart Graham Platner would be facing. 01:02:29.282 --> 01:02:34.785 [SPEAKER_07]: Watching Collins' video announcing her sixth term bit, do you want the video? 01:02:35.605 --> 01:02:35.945 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah. 01:02:36.466 --> 01:02:36.826 [SPEAKER_05]: Is it? 01:02:37.646 --> 01:02:37.826 [SPEAKER_05]: Wait. 01:02:38.347 --> 01:02:38.687 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:02:38.747 --> 01:02:39.127 [SPEAKER_07]: I have it. 01:02:51.087 --> 01:02:55.510 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you can't really, yeah, I was going to say that you can hear it, you can hear it, you can hear it. 01:02:58.319 --> 01:03:04.622 [SPEAKER_00]: This is perfect for 2020 sex because I'm running. 01:03:04.802 --> 01:03:06.643 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, it is, yeah, I guess you can hear it. 01:03:06.683 --> 01:03:08.483 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you can hear it. 01:03:08.844 --> 01:03:12.665 [SPEAKER_05]: She's, she's a reverse RFK. 01:03:12.845 --> 01:03:17.167 [SPEAKER_06]: Where the tremor and her voice matches the tremor and her body. 01:03:17.367 --> 01:03:18.428 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 01:03:19.228 --> 01:03:22.849 [SPEAKER_07]: So I tweeted the video clip saying she was vibrating like an electric toothbrush. 01:03:23.169 --> 01:03:33.753 [SPEAKER_07]: I'd like to apologize for that on reflection She shakes more like a chihuahua in the snow Okay, I should have been I should have known that this was a bit We said he was apologizing. 01:03:33.793 --> 01:03:34.153 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh shit. 01:03:34.173 --> 01:03:34.653 [SPEAKER_05]: What did he do? 01:03:35.613 --> 01:03:39.055 [SPEAKER_07]: My tweet went so viral that within days Collins was compelled to respond. 01:03:40.096 --> 01:03:42.437 [SPEAKER_07]: Here's what she told an local NBC affiliate. 01:03:43.218 --> 01:03:47.320 [SPEAKER_07]: What I have is an extremely common condition that has called a benign essential tremor. 01:03:48.241 --> 01:03:53.124 [SPEAKER_07]: Without that new center main, use the same language as his headline. 01:03:53.204 --> 01:03:56.426 [SPEAKER_07]: Susan Collins reveals medical condition benign essential tremor. 01:03:57.286 --> 01:03:58.327 [SPEAKER_07]: There's just one problem. 01:03:58.347 --> 01:04:00.168 [SPEAKER_07]: The condition actually isn't called that. 01:04:00.248 --> 01:04:00.648 [SPEAKER_07]: It's called 01:04:02.429 --> 01:04:02.789 [SPEAKER_07]: movement. 01:04:02.830 --> 01:04:20.945 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I was going to say the benign part sense sounds new to me, but yeah, movement disorder in our lives, but nine aids drop the word benign from the name over a decade ago and for good reason the condition coincides with a 300% increased risk of dementia and a 200% increased risk of death. 01:04:24.288 --> 01:04:32.371 [SPEAKER_07]: For many people, the condition is debilitating with 85% of patients reporting functional disability and daily life tasks like eating and drinking. 01:04:32.491 --> 01:04:33.232 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's my dad. 01:04:33.272 --> 01:04:40.255 [SPEAKER_05]: My dad has this, like full blown at this point and it's, yeah, it's, it's a disability essentially. 01:04:40.275 --> 01:04:42.516 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, the dude, the dude can't have soup. 01:04:43.436 --> 01:04:45.337 [SPEAKER_06]: Okay, here's the plan. 01:04:46.337 --> 01:04:57.124 [SPEAKER_06]: We get your dad elected to office, and then as soon as he's elected, he holds a press conference where he says that this condition is preventing him from serving and he has no choice but to step down. 01:04:57.484 --> 01:05:00.045 [SPEAKER_05]: Damn, I like that, and then of course it's hard to do that. 01:05:01.226 --> 01:05:02.586 [SPEAKER_05]: So how many works? 01:05:03.126 --> 01:05:03.587 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:05:03.627 --> 01:05:05.867 [SPEAKER_07]: So she's 78. 01:05:05.927 --> 01:05:07.548 [SPEAKER_07]: She's running for her sixth term. 01:05:07.588 --> 01:05:09.508 [SPEAKER_07]: She's been in government 36 years. 01:05:11.128 --> 01:05:11.388 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. 01:05:12.729 --> 01:05:13.069 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh well. 01:05:13.109 --> 01:05:13.709 [SPEAKER_07]: She's a little bit. 01:05:13.769 --> 01:05:15.830 [SPEAKER_07]: If she wins, she would be 36 years. 01:05:16.310 --> 01:05:16.850 [SPEAKER_06]: I hate this. 01:05:17.230 --> 01:05:17.470 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah. 01:05:17.510 --> 01:05:17.970 [SPEAKER_06]: I hate this. 01:05:18.490 --> 01:05:20.251 [SPEAKER_06]: So like the idea. 01:05:20.911 --> 01:05:25.172 [SPEAKER_07]: The one thing that is a silver lining in all this is that. 01:05:26.032 --> 01:05:46.069 [SPEAKER_07]: And I think this is only like 100 people who all work at the DNC and in mainstream news organizations that actually like care about the shit, but they keep pressing the oh this guy said this guy did a bad post like six or however many it's what they did to Hassan Piker for like a couple of months there I think they still are doing it. 01:05:46.089 --> 01:05:52.834 [SPEAKER_07]: It's like Zorn Mundani, you know, yeah like oh look at look at these like bad posts that they did and it's like okay 01:05:54.136 --> 01:06:14.132 [SPEAKER_07]: We're dealing with people that like for us, we're in our forties like we've been on online for basically our entire adult lives Anyone who's like an adult now who is under the age of like 60 We've all done a bad post like everyone's done like a shitty post like this is not this gotcha like doesn't really work anymore 01:06:15.513 --> 01:06:23.398 [SPEAKER_07]: and they keep pressing the button and like at this point like no one no one outside of that bubble is buying it at all which is the right that's the silver line. 01:06:23.679 --> 01:06:36.448 [SPEAKER_05]: I think yeah the annoying thing to me about you know the way a lot of these politics are presented and a purity politics in general are presented is that like 01:06:37.961 --> 01:06:54.133 [SPEAKER_05]: The only annoying or most annoying thing that left this do is it's like, okay, you either, if you're anti electoral, that's fine, like I am pretty, you know, pessimistic when it comes to electoralism. 01:06:54.783 --> 01:07:15.917 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, especially when, you know, policy is currently completely unstuck from public opinion point point at everything right just yeah point at everything so like in general my my thought that, you know electoralism will save us is like I don't I think I'm pretty probably not probably not that is that's kind of how I am. 01:07:17.258 --> 01:07:44.157 [SPEAKER_05]: What annoys me is when people have this sort of blanket, anti-electorial take, and their main outlet is just complaining about elections from people in Maine, there was people who were just going after Grand Plattener's sort of from the left that I was just going like, oh, okay, so 01:07:45.018 --> 01:07:51.827 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, the only thing that we really have in terms of elections and people running for stuff is what they say. 01:07:52.428 --> 01:07:52.689 [SPEAKER_05]: Right. 01:07:53.149 --> 01:07:57.095 [SPEAKER_05]: So like, we don't know what they will do until they get there. 01:07:57.555 --> 01:08:01.761 [SPEAKER_05]: The reason why the, you know, genocide in Gaza is 01:08:02.622 --> 01:08:11.588 [SPEAKER_05]: such a pure and clear litmus test is because 20 candidates for governor refused to admit it in a room. 01:08:12.068 --> 01:08:14.129 [SPEAKER_07]: And they refuse to acknowledge what's obvious. 01:08:14.370 --> 01:08:14.590 [SPEAKER_07]: Right. 01:08:14.650 --> 01:08:26.057 [SPEAKER_05]: And so it's someone in this case when someone does acknowledge that you go, well, okay, at the very least they said that and then the rest is well, what else do they believe in? 01:08:26.437 --> 01:08:29.139 [SPEAKER_05]: He says he believes in literally all of the fucking left-wing 01:08:30.700 --> 01:08:35.806 [SPEAKER_05]: So from that point it's like, okay, so he seems like the left wing guy. 01:08:36.026 --> 01:08:41.232 [SPEAKER_05]: So I understand what being skeptical of whether or not he's honest about it. 01:08:41.632 --> 01:08:44.855 [SPEAKER_05]: But if your whole thing is like, oh, you're going to get fooled again. 01:08:44.875 --> 01:08:47.498 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, the same thing will like, Zoron. 01:08:47.638 --> 01:08:48.760 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, you're going to get fooled. 01:08:49.040 --> 01:08:51.002 [SPEAKER_05]: You know, fell for it again award. 01:08:51.723 --> 01:08:52.263 [SPEAKER_05]: It's just like 01:08:53.184 --> 01:08:56.246 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's how Paul, it's how all politics works. 01:08:56.406 --> 01:08:59.088 [SPEAKER_07]: They get into power and they become part of the power structure. 01:08:59.108 --> 01:09:04.451 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, yes, it's just weird, like, it's, I'm sorry, but it is a pussy ass thing. 01:09:04.531 --> 01:09:08.313 [SPEAKER_05]: It's one thing to be like, hey, I'm, you know, I don't believe in electoralism. 01:09:08.373 --> 01:09:09.894 [SPEAKER_05]: It's not going to save us whatever. 01:09:10.194 --> 01:09:13.156 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like, okay, I understand that I kind of end that way too. 01:09:13.957 --> 01:09:20.701 [SPEAKER_05]: Is another thing entirely to be mad at other people who are just like, well, it's kind of the only lever I know how to push. 01:09:21.861 --> 01:09:30.805 [SPEAKER_05]: The other part like you're like no you idiot don't you know you might get me trained Yeah, yeah Yeah, of course. 01:09:31.105 --> 01:09:36.348 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and it's the other feeling of being betrayed The other part welcome to life row 01:09:37.148 --> 01:09:40.950 [SPEAKER_07]: The other part of this is it's like oh stop doing purity test. 01:09:41.030 --> 01:09:47.874 [SPEAKER_07]: It's stop doing litmus test You we're not gonna have anyone if you keep doing that and then I'm like, okay, well, who's your hero? 01:09:47.915 --> 01:09:56.319 [SPEAKER_07]: And it's always like Obama and it's like you know why we had Obama We had a fucking purity test and the purity test was like were you for the Iraq war? 01:09:56.380 --> 01:10:05.285 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, 2008 and he was the one who wasn't and that's why he was president like yes He disappointed us, but like that's what you know that's the 01:10:05.685 --> 01:10:06.926 [SPEAKER_07]: That's the fucking process. 01:10:06.966 --> 01:10:07.547 [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know. 01:10:07.607 --> 01:10:07.887 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah. 01:10:08.087 --> 01:10:08.588 [SPEAKER_05]: And it's true. 01:10:08.648 --> 01:10:10.509 [SPEAKER_05]: The process is flawed. 01:10:10.649 --> 01:10:13.832 [SPEAKER_05]: And at this point, possibly unsalvigible. 01:10:14.072 --> 01:10:17.435 [SPEAKER_05]: But I'm also like, why you mad online about people voting for Grand Plattener. 01:10:17.475 --> 01:10:17.816 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:10:17.836 --> 01:10:23.380 [SPEAKER_05]: I mean, especially since like, you're low key teaming up with a bunch of like centrist and right wingers. 01:10:23.580 --> 01:10:25.182 [SPEAKER_05]: And I'm just like, I don't trust this. 01:10:25.702 --> 01:10:29.325 [SPEAKER_05]: The other thing I'll say about the AOC thing is that like, 01:10:30.126 --> 01:10:36.596 [SPEAKER_05]: I think there's a lot of bad faith-fucking people who just always find any excuse to jump down AOC's throat. 01:10:37.657 --> 01:10:40.902 [SPEAKER_05]: I'm not one of those people, but I will say this. 01:10:42.044 --> 01:10:45.349 [SPEAKER_05]: Her ass made a fucking unforced error in that video. 01:10:45.789 --> 01:10:47.631 [SPEAKER_05]: completely on course. 01:10:48.212 --> 01:11:01.805 [SPEAKER_05]: I watched the whole thing, you know, she, so the thing that went viral was her saying, I don't think Marjorie Taylor Greene is someone who we should allow, you know, in our movements due to her past, the things she said, and whatnot. 01:11:02.126 --> 01:11:08.852 [SPEAKER_05]: And that went viral, people on the left, you know, complaining because like they're like, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene, 01:11:10.298 --> 01:11:17.220 [SPEAKER_05]: say what you will about her when it came to the issue of Israel and Palestine, which is what AOC was referring to specifically. 01:11:19.040 --> 01:11:27.002 [SPEAKER_05]: She at least introduced an amendment to a bill to try to stop $500 million in defensive weapons from getting to Israel. 01:11:28.523 --> 01:11:30.743 [SPEAKER_05]: And that amendment was voted on 01:11:38.085 --> 01:11:47.395 [SPEAKER_05]: So it's kind of like a weird thing for like, I agree she's better than Marjorie Taylor Greene, but like why bring her up? 01:11:47.496 --> 01:11:48.376 [SPEAKER_05]: She's not even confident. 01:11:48.457 --> 01:11:53.182 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's like she's doing that thing where people and movies are like, I don't want your dirty money. 01:11:53.582 --> 01:11:56.705 [SPEAKER_07]: Right, and it's like, I don't care like use the money for something. 01:11:56.725 --> 01:12:05.133 [SPEAKER_07]: Well, okay, so if like you don't want her support Fine, but if her support is for you if you don't want Marjorie Taylor green support That's fine. 01:12:05.173 --> 01:12:07.195 [SPEAKER_07]: You suck but if it's for a good thing. 01:12:07.215 --> 01:12:14.221 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, so if it's getting mad at anyone who had a critique of that They were getting mad at anyone who had a critique of of 01:12:15.302 --> 01:12:16.023 [SPEAKER_05]: of a.o.c. 01:12:16.243 --> 01:12:19.004 [SPEAKER_05]: because they're, you know, they were like, oh, so you like margin. 01:12:19.104 --> 01:12:21.446 [SPEAKER_05]: You think she should be president, margin. 01:12:21.466 --> 01:12:22.887 [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, what are you talking about? 01:12:23.167 --> 01:12:23.427 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes. 01:12:23.827 --> 01:12:26.349 [SPEAKER_05]: I realize margin Taylor Green is a racist. 01:12:26.809 --> 01:12:28.210 [SPEAKER_05]: I would never vote for her. 01:12:28.310 --> 01:12:29.231 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't support her. 01:12:29.351 --> 01:12:30.612 [SPEAKER_05]: I think she's a piece of shit. 01:12:31.292 --> 01:12:43.765 [SPEAKER_05]: I think that she, uh, at the very least, she did make a lot of noise when no one else was making noise about this one issue and whether or not she did it because she had hate in her in her heart. 01:12:44.386 --> 01:12:44.966 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't know. 01:12:44.986 --> 01:12:46.328 [SPEAKER_05]: I don't care. 01:12:46.568 --> 01:12:51.930 [SPEAKER_05]: But the idea that it's like, oh, you don't understand when she tried to ban weapon sales to Israel. 01:12:51.990 --> 01:12:57.853 [SPEAKER_05]: She did so hatefully, but when AOC said, no, we will not ban weapon sales during a genocide. 01:12:57.893 --> 01:12:59.854 [SPEAKER_05]: She did it anti-racistly. 01:13:00.214 --> 01:13:03.095 [SPEAKER_05]: And it's like, that is not, that is stupid. 01:13:03.195 --> 01:13:07.617 [SPEAKER_05]: That is, don't make us, don't make us have to think about that. 01:13:08.475 --> 01:13:21.323 [SPEAKER_05]: If you watch the full video of the question that was asked, right before this, the person's asking, hey, you called us one, you know, Tim Birchett, you called him a white nationalist or a white nationalist sympathizer. 01:13:22.064 --> 01:13:29.629 [SPEAKER_05]: You went on later to work with him on this bill that you're trying to get past about banning insider trading in Congress. 01:13:31.150 --> 01:13:34.594 [SPEAKER_05]: Do you think you still think he's a white nationalist and she goes, yes, I do. 01:13:34.894 --> 01:13:36.897 [SPEAKER_05]: I still think that, but here's the thing. 01:13:37.517 --> 01:13:44.145 [SPEAKER_05]: We got to ban insider trading, you know, sometimes you just got to get things done and Congress and this is what you have to do. 01:13:44.604 --> 01:13:53.168 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, and they're stop talking now and then she goes on to be like, but I would never do that with Marjorie Taylor Greene to end the genocide. 01:13:53.208 --> 01:13:55.409 [SPEAKER_05]: It was like, why are you putting those things in conflict? 01:13:56.029 --> 01:14:07.894 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it was so it like to me it was a completely unforested error on her part and I'm actually more mad at people who are mischaracterizing the critique of AOC 01:14:09.014 --> 01:14:10.915 [SPEAKER_05]: as like Marjorie Taylor Green support. 01:14:10.975 --> 01:14:34.405 [SPEAKER_05]: It's like such a stupid, lived-up thing to do, and an entire of people falling for these like, very obvious traps where it's like, what's the same thing that people on the left like Tucker, everyone knows that Tucker Carlson in-between all of the fucking like anti-Israel stuff, that he goes on to talking about how Somali's need to be fucking, you know, purged from society. 01:14:34.445 --> 01:14:35.626 [SPEAKER_05]: Like, everyone knows this. 01:14:35.706 --> 01:14:36.146 [SPEAKER_05]: See also. 01:14:36.326 --> 01:14:41.188 [SPEAKER_07]: He also talked about how 80% of his in-users are doing them rectally. 01:14:41.268 --> 01:14:43.348 [SPEAKER_07]: I think he's like, he's doing like this weird. 01:14:43.508 --> 01:14:44.369 [SPEAKER_07]: Did you see that clip? 01:14:44.389 --> 01:14:44.689 [SPEAKER_07]: No. 01:14:45.189 --> 01:14:45.969 [SPEAKER_07]: He's doing this. 01:14:46.509 --> 01:14:47.530 [SPEAKER_07]: He was his in-user. 01:14:48.230 --> 01:14:50.151 [SPEAKER_07]: So Tucker Carlson has his own... 01:14:50.231 --> 01:14:53.952 [SPEAKER_07]: He has his own nicotine pouch brand. 01:14:54.352 --> 01:15:05.576 [SPEAKER_07]: I think his way of promoting that is to be like, yeah, this is the non-gay version of Zinn because Zinn guys put it in their butt. 01:15:06.876 --> 01:15:13.458 [SPEAKER_05]: I can't tell if he's doing a bit, but the point is is I think it matters at this point. 01:15:14.039 --> 01:15:23.282 [SPEAKER_05]: Everyone who is on the left politically for the most part, everyone knows that Tucker Carlson is terrible in all of these different ways. 01:15:24.263 --> 01:15:48.661 [SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, we don't hit that lecture again, we're like we get it when he says some shit to some fucking like Liberals INS thought at the New York Times and owns them because liberal Zionism is is just filled with so many contradictions that it's very easy to own that person You don't have to be an expert you just need to make them have to explain why sometimes part a part-tit is okay and they you know look like assholes 01:15:49.542 --> 01:16:13.366 [SPEAKER_05]: everyone acts like oh so you love Tucker Carlson I'm like guys enough of this fucking bullshit enough of painting anyone who is critiquing uh because it's not a critique of anything other than the New York Times for not being able to go one-on-one with a fucking you know goober like Tucker Carlson bringing an anti-zionist to talk to him 01:16:13.466 --> 01:16:20.832 [SPEAKER_07]: No, when you can't just say yes to a very basic question, if you create space for the worst person you know, it's the correct one. 01:16:20.852 --> 01:16:32.403 [SPEAKER_05]: Yes, and this is a thing we're dealing with and stopping mad at people for rightfully pointing out that these people are being flanked on the left by right wingers. 01:16:33.223 --> 01:16:33.884 [SPEAKER_05]: That's true. 01:16:34.244 --> 01:16:34.664 [SPEAKER_05]: It is. 01:16:34.905 --> 01:16:35.165 [SPEAKER_05]: It is. 01:16:35.245 --> 01:16:35.645 [SPEAKER_05]: Sorry. 01:16:36.366 --> 01:16:39.589 [SPEAKER_05]: Anyways, I feel like young Hitler. 01:16:42.733 --> 01:16:46.754 [SPEAKER_07]: This is just like what you know, exactly what young Hitler would have done. 01:16:46.774 --> 01:16:48.274 [SPEAKER_07]: Speaking of young Hitler, play that pop. 01:16:48.634 --> 01:17:01.577 [SPEAKER_06]: We did forget the very strange scene kind of the climactic scene when he has his first banger of a speech, and everyone starts chanting blood, Jew, which sounds cool, makes him sound 01:17:09.898 --> 01:17:13.320 [SPEAKER_06]: Like like he was Hitler was the first Kripp if you think about it. 01:17:13.360 --> 01:17:24.888 [SPEAKER_06]: It's like hey dog ain't dog Get that crap get that crap trash out of your dog I love that You're gonna do anything with that bouch 01:17:38.392 --> 01:18:06.288 [SPEAKER_07]: uh... you got to play that top video exit mm-hmm all right i mean because i know like he's very fruity but uh... i feel like he reaches new levels of fruityness with every new release okay so by the way like again let's tie back to max um... so gay yeah it's also gay this is what i was tying back to because it's so fruity this is such a 01:18:08.913 --> 01:18:17.844 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, so it says thanks to President Trump's 1.5 trillion dollar defense budget, uh, this war department is moved from bureaucracy to business. 01:18:17.864 --> 01:18:24.952 [SPEAKER_05]: This is a fiscal responsible investment in our arsenal of freedom ensuring a military remains the most lethal fighting force in the free world. 01:18:25.032 --> 01:18:25.873 [SPEAKER_05]: And here's a video. 01:18:26.113 --> 01:18:29.855 [SPEAKER_12]: And Pentagon bureaucracy was doing the same thing for decades. 01:18:30.616 --> 01:18:40.762 [SPEAKER_12]: When our war fighters needed more weapons, aircraftors, and ships, the Department of Defense allowed contractors to double dip at your expense. 01:18:41.143 --> 01:18:44.104 [SPEAKER_12]: They charge you the taxpayer to build their factories. 01:18:44.565 --> 01:18:47.086 [SPEAKER_12]: And then charge you again for the final product. 01:18:48.287 --> 01:18:52.969 [SPEAKER_12]: and despite paying companies to make weapons faster, schedule delays were constant. 01:18:53.309 --> 01:18:55.010 [SPEAKER_12]: Or some positive reasons. 01:18:55.030 --> 01:18:57.991 [SPEAKER_07]: So basically, what we're doing here. 01:18:58.031 --> 01:18:59.751 [SPEAKER_12]: CEO's got rich. 01:18:59.871 --> 01:19:00.532 [SPEAKER_12]: Oh my God. 01:19:00.832 --> 01:19:03.473 [SPEAKER_07]: We're saving money by increasing the budget. 01:19:03.533 --> 01:19:05.854 [SPEAKER_12]: It's a fancy budget. 01:19:05.894 --> 01:19:07.534 [SPEAKER_07]: Like, we were wasting so much money. 01:19:07.554 --> 01:19:12.916 [SPEAKER_07]: It was a poor way that we were wasting so much money with the $800 billion defense budget. 01:19:12.936 --> 01:19:17.238 [SPEAKER_07]: But what this new $1.5 trillion defense budget does is save your money. 01:19:17.598 --> 01:19:25.962 [SPEAKER_05]: The crazy ending, it's just so funny because you're like, okay, so we're gonna cut all that pureocracy and we're gonna also raise it by double. 01:19:28.684 --> 01:19:31.485 [SPEAKER_05]: No, but now it's all going towards the war fighters. 01:19:31.925 --> 01:19:32.185 [SPEAKER_06]: Right. 01:19:32.285 --> 01:19:35.067 [SPEAKER_06]: I just, I'm just actually just going directly into Trump's pocket. 01:19:35.127 --> 01:19:35.647 [SPEAKER_06]: That's right. 01:19:35.827 --> 01:19:55.433 [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll 01:19:56.854 --> 01:20:02.681 [SPEAKER_12]: But today, President Trump's war department is flipping this rigged system on its head. 01:20:03.522 --> 01:20:07.067 [SPEAKER_12]: We're not tolerating delays in production or cost overruns anymore. 01:20:07.868 --> 01:20:15.017 [SPEAKER_12]: We've pushed out the bureaucrats who have made these deals in the past and replaced them with the most talented negotiators in the private sector. 01:20:15.577 --> 01:20:20.379 [SPEAKER_12]: Big strong guys, I can't, I can't deal with any more of this shit. 01:20:20.599 --> 01:20:22.199 [SPEAKER_05]: It's strong guys, sexy ones. 01:20:22.259 --> 01:20:23.660 [SPEAKER_07]: This sucks so bad. 01:20:23.680 --> 01:20:25.220 [SPEAKER_07]: We pushed out all the point textures. 01:20:25.240 --> 01:20:28.181 [SPEAKER_07]: Now we got strapping, greased up hooks. 01:20:28.201 --> 01:20:30.562 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, we fired all the gay Jews. 01:20:30.722 --> 01:20:34.763 [SPEAKER_05]: And now it's only straight hot areas. 01:20:35.403 --> 01:20:46.852 [SPEAKER_07]: And like everything he says, you can tell he practiced in a mirror 20 times before you like did it on camera like it's just yeah, it's just so Rettelent of of of of of rehearsals. 01:20:47.592 --> 01:20:52.736 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, 100% It's crazy that he's still around. 01:20:52.756 --> 01:20:55.618 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, we got a we got a end soon. 01:20:55.738 --> 01:20:57.179 [SPEAKER_05]: You sent me two voicemails. 01:20:57.680 --> 01:20:59.221 [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah, yeah, we got a couple voicemails 01:20:59.525 --> 01:21:07.475 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, so which which one should I start with the short one of the long I don't remember what they're about but they're just just pick one All right, here's short one. 01:21:07.915 --> 01:21:10.018 [SPEAKER_05]: So guys first time long time. 01:21:10.198 --> 01:21:13.662 [SPEAKER_05]: There's a 42nd long one I just want to make a little complaint here. 01:21:14.123 --> 01:21:16.746 [SPEAKER_04]: I noticed in that the my wife 01:21:18.347 --> 01:21:18.687 [SPEAKER_04]: Thank you. 01:21:19.247 --> 01:21:21.828 [SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, they get a little lackluster. 01:21:21.848 --> 01:21:23.488 [SPEAKER_04]: You guys just start feeling it anymore. 01:21:23.568 --> 01:21:28.830 [SPEAKER_04]: And I'm gonna tell you, don't stop doing them because if you do, I'm gonna unsubscribe to the Patreon. 01:21:29.330 --> 01:21:36.732 [SPEAKER_04]: Before you say anything about it being a tired old bit, you guys have been doing the same God damn bit for three fucking podcasts about B pluses. 01:21:37.092 --> 01:21:38.832 [SPEAKER_04]: Okay, it's annoying, it's tired. 01:21:39.332 --> 01:21:40.993 [SPEAKER_04]: And that's why you need to triple down on it. 01:21:41.373 --> 01:21:41.933 [SPEAKER_04]: I keep doing it. 01:21:42.133 --> 01:21:42.573 [SPEAKER_04]: That's right. 01:21:42.593 --> 01:21:43.273 [SPEAKER_04]: So anyway, yeah. 01:21:44.034 --> 01:21:45.234 [SPEAKER_04]: You, I've issued my demands. 01:21:46.379 --> 01:21:47.459 [SPEAKER_04]: You know, you know what to say. 01:21:49.400 --> 01:21:49.860 [SPEAKER_06]: I love that. 01:21:49.981 --> 01:21:51.481 [SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I thought he meant three episodes. 01:21:51.561 --> 01:21:53.602 [SPEAKER_06]: I'm like, it's kind of a lot longer than that. 01:21:53.882 --> 01:21:54.182 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:21:54.782 --> 01:22:02.286 [SPEAKER_05]: I really love that he proved his point in that moment where he said my wife and we all sat there doing nothing. 01:22:02.306 --> 01:22:04.526 [SPEAKER_05]: And he said, thank you and went, all right, my wife. 01:22:04.566 --> 01:22:05.007 [SPEAKER_05]: He was right. 01:22:05.847 --> 01:22:09.028 [SPEAKER_06]: Right, he kind of got our ass, he did, he really did. 01:22:09.368 --> 01:22:21.510 [SPEAKER_05]: All right, and now here's, so yeah, by the way, it's true, I thought we've been doing a pretty good job keeping it up, so I don't know what he's talking about, but yes, occasionally I will let up my wife pass without saying anything. 01:22:21.530 --> 01:22:22.571 [SPEAKER_05]: My wife, thank you. 01:22:22.991 --> 01:22:31.333 [SPEAKER_07]: And as far as Max from 2002 goes aka Young Hitler, I mean, I give it a solid B-plus, solid B-plus, solid B-plus, yeah, solid B-plus. 01:22:31.693 --> 01:22:33.013 [SPEAKER_05]: Okay, here's the last voicemail. 01:22:35.387 --> 01:22:38.209 [SPEAKER_05]: There's one minute and 44 seconds. 01:22:39.049 --> 01:22:46.874 [SPEAKER_10]: I was just reading, then to the sub-stack about death by lightning. 01:22:48.135 --> 01:22:59.521 [SPEAKER_10]: And the thing about Charles Githau, being at the United community, and crossing everybody out and getting the nickname Charles Githau. 01:23:00.102 --> 01:23:00.782 [SPEAKER_10]: Very funny stuff. 01:23:01.427 --> 01:23:05.988 [SPEAKER_10]: And I realize I'm mixing my podcast here, so please forgive me for that. 01:23:06.028 --> 01:23:16.651 [SPEAKER_10]: But it really does put me in mind that there's a very room missing of what is talking about on guys. 01:23:17.292 --> 01:23:18.932 [SPEAKER_10]: Talk to us about guys, single guys. 01:23:21.253 --> 01:23:29.615 [SPEAKER_10]: And I've been racking my brain and trying to think of another time that a single guy has had such an impact on history and I'm kind of drawing a blank I think. 01:23:30.265 --> 01:23:40.630 [SPEAKER_10]: Charles Gittaux might be history's, I won't say greatest because it's a rather infamous act that he pulled on. 01:23:41.590 --> 01:23:46.373 [SPEAKER_10]: But certainly impactful changing the presidency. 01:23:47.473 --> 01:23:54.957 [SPEAKER_10]: So if you guys can think of another example of somebody having as much of an impact or even greater impact 01:23:57.788 --> 01:24:03.650 [SPEAKER_10]: You know, one of those I said, I hate to show my car to you know, it's just the most accessible people on earth. 01:24:03.710 --> 01:24:06.171 [SPEAKER_10]: I was a single guy, so I can say that. 01:24:06.531 --> 01:24:08.692 [SPEAKER_10]: I am not longer a single guy. 01:24:09.432 --> 01:24:17.935 [SPEAKER_10]: Um, but yeah, I think it's because anybody has any other single guy had such an impact on history as Charles Githau. 01:24:18.795 --> 01:24:21.516 [SPEAKER_06]: Uh, yeah, say Hitler, how come you're not married? 01:24:21.536 --> 01:24:21.996 [SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, 01:24:24.805 --> 01:24:25.845 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's true. 01:24:25.885 --> 01:24:27.346 [SPEAKER_05]: Hitler is the ultimate single guy. 01:24:27.386 --> 01:24:29.447 [SPEAKER_05]: I feel like he was setting us up for saying Hitler. 01:24:29.487 --> 01:24:30.207 [SPEAKER_05]: Am I crazy? 01:24:31.367 --> 01:24:34.028 [SPEAKER_05]: I can't think of one other single guy. 01:24:36.589 --> 01:24:37.769 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, no Hitler. 01:24:37.789 --> 01:24:38.810 [SPEAKER_05]: How about that? 01:24:40.950 --> 01:24:42.051 [SPEAKER_05]: How about that? 01:24:43.562 --> 01:24:48.945 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, well, you can always give us, we love some voicemails, you know, sometimes we just want to hear you talk. 01:24:49.685 --> 01:24:52.346 [SPEAKER_05]: Um, but, uh, I think that's a podcast. 01:24:52.506 --> 01:24:52.906 [SPEAKER_05]: What are you guys? 01:24:52.926 --> 01:24:53.327 [SPEAKER_05]: Yeah. 01:24:53.647 --> 01:24:56.008 [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, I'll be plus of a podcast in my opinion. 01:24:56.848 --> 01:24:57.689 [SPEAKER_05]: Oh, right. 01:24:58.349 --> 01:24:59.129 [SPEAKER_05]: Patron.com. 01:24:59.209 --> 01:25:01.390 [SPEAKER_07]: I'll ask, I'll ask my wife what she thinks. 01:25:01.851 --> 01:25:04.452 [SPEAKER_05]: Patron.com, such rockcat for rkdm.com. 01:25:04.472 --> 01:25:05.872 [SPEAKER_05]: Well, your questions, comments and concerns. 01:25:05.952 --> 01:25:07.013 [SPEAKER_05]: Vince was a Google voice number. 01:25:07.503 --> 01:25:21.377 [SPEAKER_06]: four one five two seven five zero zero three zero Brendan take us on out of here please fracass Brendan jimmel.com if you want to get a line to me directly thank you for listening this week and as always good night and good jins