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[SPEAKER_03]: The shots meant Pearson, Jodie Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_01]: Good Friday evening.
[SPEAKER_01]: We made it to Friday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or as Jodie says, it's Friday.
[SPEAKER_01]: She's, of course, saying yay, because she is still on vacation last night of her vacation.
[SPEAKER_01]: So conveniently, we asked our friends, Karen and Anita from the True Blue politics podcast to come in.
[SPEAKER_01]: just a little bit early.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a little bit early.
[SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing today?
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm very proud of hanging in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are like, well, you know, we had some strong arms and some rain and you guys have something new that you're doing on your podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: We will absolutely talk about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we have a lot of other things to talk about today as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some new news in the Trumpstein files.
[SPEAKER_01]: There were some good entertainment news
[SPEAKER_01]: Last night, of course, there is the forever war that Trump has going in Iran and the new uncivil redistricting war that, well, we definitely can talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What can I call it one place exactly what I need a set look at that there you guys are already helping out on me The co hosting duties which I'm glad with it look today was a day that everybody was held I don't know if you guys saw any of the the protests around the world or here in the U.S. today
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_06]: I saw the ones in Washington B.C.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I saw Washington B.C.
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw Los Angeles, where Jody is, I saw what else is S.A.S.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chicago, I saw a picture from Minneapolis, um, there, there were a lot of protests.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is, by the way, we'll, we'll talk about this a little bit later in the drink of the day because it is tied to the fact that today is May 1st.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, we're going to talk about the, the things that I used to do when I was a little kid on May 1st and I'm going to see if you guys did this to us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe did maybe you didn't.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if it's in a maple.
[SPEAKER_06]: I remember the church I went to one time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm very pagan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wasn't Emma.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was one of those.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's for me.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was later on as I told you at different universities, you know, you know, you didn't carry it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: You, you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those are good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll talk about more of that that made day stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: The big part of the made day stuff is for a lot of people in the US, they don't realize that made day around the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Most nations is international workers day or international labor day.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... which is great and so that that went right along today with the made a strong protests which of course we have in the first round of the news on tap today uh... rallies all around the world um... i'm really glad that the folks that indivisible and all the other folks that were involved with the made a strong protest say yeah you guys for doing that
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, look, and we all know him in the economy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to Donald and his dumbass war and his dumbass people and the dumbass Republicans in Congress is not a guy.
[SPEAKER_06]: The terrorist dumbass terrorist.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He did that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We, in fact, actually, since you mentioned in the need, do we have that actually today as well?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a little bit further down.
[SPEAKER_01]: It happens to be in the fourth round today, under Trump and Amix is still failing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Donald announced today that he is placing a 25% tariff on automobiles, cars, trucks, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: accusing them of not complying with his trade deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like you are such a dumbass.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he didn't put 100% tariffs on China again.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's he's throwing tariffs.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's doing it.
[SPEAKER_06]: He even does it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's doing he's doing basically economics by feelings.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not bad.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm mad at you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to throw a tariff at you.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know you were mean to my friend over in the school.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, he has gas and he's.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, and then Charles comes over and schmoozes his ass this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he took down the tariffs on what was it?
[SPEAKER_01]: Burban whiskey, whatever it was from the UK.
[SPEAKER_01]: because Charles kissed my ass.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like him.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I was like, did he really kiss his ass?
[SPEAKER_06]: So I think he kind of snuck some insults.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he sure did.
[SPEAKER_01]: He absolutely, he absolutely did that this way.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't even so much insults.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just stating the fact.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you know what it went completely over Trump's head.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, of course it is.
[SPEAKER_06]: You think he knows what the magnet card is?
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what he thinks it is?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's an extra value meal.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like that definition.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, the fact is, Charles is very good at this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Charles, the king of England, the royalty in the UK does not exactly have any significant power anymore as far as as in the government, but the power that they do have is a very it's soft power, a ton of the soft power of the young people.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah it's it's being able to tell someone to go to hell in such a way that they look forward to the trip it's the ability to sell ice to an ask them all it's the ability to you know it's the uh uh uh what did I use to hear somebody call it uh the velvet covered ball peen hammer you know so you hit your upside the head but there's a little softness to it
[SPEAKER_01]: And Charles came over and basically had to talk Donald down because Donald has been pissing off everybody, especially our long-term allies in Europe, uh, Starmer and the U.K.s.
[SPEAKER_01]: pissed, uh, murs in Germany is pissed even McCron and Francis like Donald trying this.
[SPEAKER_06]: So he keeps these countries.
[SPEAKER_06]: McCron has tried it.
[SPEAKER_06]: They've all tried it tried to be nice to Donald Trump or try to, you know, talk down.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're pretty, they're, they're, they're beyond, they're beyond that now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, for example, there's there's another story that we have.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you know what they sent Charles Charles came and did the same thing that they've all been trying to do.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it doesn't eventually, yes, and it doesn't, it's not, it doesn't have staying, but, you know, power.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's no right to it, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, it's very temporary.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no staying.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no staying power to any of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then that's because of who Donald is, but they still want to continue to have the long-term relationship.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because they know that Donald is short-term Donald's not going to be a firm relationship with the United States and the long-term.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the thing is that at the same time they're doing that, we have another piece that happens to be down on the fifth round under other foreign affairs.
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about it a couple times this week, but Zelensky is being very smart.
[SPEAKER_01]: He started the week and we had a report from last weekend where they had sometimes kind of conference.
[SPEAKER_01]: I believe in Malta maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Cyprus, something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: And but it was a conference some of the EU leaders and he was like, look, just, you know, add me to the EU.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was outright saying it.
[SPEAKER_01]: He has been doing a lot to shore up and to grow the, the international reach of Ukraine.
[SPEAKER_01]: While Trump is busy focused on Iran and his ballroom.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, that's balls.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, well, I think it does.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it's so counterproductive.
[SPEAKER_06]: Today he was talking about the asthma about, um,
[SPEAKER_06]: These routes that pack a stand as long as I ran to use to ship their oil.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he said, Oh, you know, that's okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, he's like, they're great.
[SPEAKER_06]: I like this.
[SPEAKER_06]: We need name the leader if you get his name.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the thing is that guy is bought a bunch of his crypto.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he also said Donald Trump should win the Nobel Peace Prize.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but that's a gift.
[SPEAKER_01]: We all know this need everybody knows that when it comes to Donald everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: everything in his life is transaction.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you kiss his ass, he'll kiss, and that's one of the reasons that I was saying all of it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, he's just why he's so dangerous.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's such a touching document to our nation.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also why I was so glad to see I'm glad to see the United States starting to bring more of our Labor Day focus to where it should be.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll have to talk about that a little bit later.
[SPEAKER_01]: But
[SPEAKER_01]: and and the made a strong protest out there promoting the fact that you know we need to be focusing on affordability we talk about it here at the bar a whole bunch those are the two america needs a a a america needs affordability and accountability and we absolutely do because we are hungover from all this half-ashism and we we need to do things better and
[SPEAKER_01]: along the lines of that in the second round of the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there is a new uncivil war thanks to the Supreme Court and their illegitimate voting rights ruling.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's already fueling some new redistricting moves Louisiana by the way already sued for trying to suspend their active election.
[SPEAKER_01]: Literally their primary election was already going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mark Elias and his group are already suing them along with, I believe, three other groups.
[SPEAKER_01]: are already suing the state of Louisiana for trying to stop their election in the middle of their election so they can redraw the maps.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, no, you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't think it away with that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I mean, I mean, I were talking about that on our podcast or daily podcast.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I just don't know how, I mean, they're, they're already voted.
[SPEAKER_06]: A lot of people have already voted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this is, this is the thing that we have to remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: things work if we work them.
[SPEAKER_01]: The law works and the government works if we work it and if we work it properly.
[SPEAKER_01]: This week for example, there are so many in the mainstream media.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I caught Chris Hayes on the replay mentioning it, but I don't remember seeing hearing anybody else mentioned it.
[SPEAKER_01]: In not even any of our friends mentioning it.
[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that Democrats got a win this week, and let's give Democrats in Congress a round of applause for this, because so we asked them.
[SPEAKER_01]: We told them to stand up to the Republicans and say, do not fund ICE and CBP.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can fund the rest of DHS, do not fund ICE and CBP.
[SPEAKER_01]: and the Democrats in Congress held the line.
[SPEAKER_01]: We get plenty of criticism and rightfully so to Schumer and the Japanese.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, mostly, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we try at least here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I know there are a lot of people who criticize them regardless, and maybe they shouldn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: But in this case, they deserve some praise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then all the Democrats who stood firm and said,
[SPEAKER_01]: And so the Republicans today had to, well, yesterday, technically, they had to accept the bill.
[SPEAKER_01]: These Senate passed the bill to fund CBP or to fund everything else in DHS except CBP and ICE.
[SPEAKER_01]: They passed that 35 days ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: which was one of those were you sitting there are you kidding me yeah but they they passed it the house had a fit they weighed their little tiny johnson and us and he's so impotent hey we we talked about this we don't what i had uh uh uh uh uh uh internet guy in this week he was a immigrant from Ethiopia and he was laughing he says why you know how do you guys make the politics thing funny and i told him about how we call johnson tiny johnson because he is he's like five seven five eight whatever it is
[SPEAKER_06]: And I said it just looks like a tiny Johnson.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and the fact that you know, like Chicago has a great big Johnson.
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know a big thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Big shoes.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, but look.
[SPEAKER_01]: Democrats held the line and made The Republicans in the house have to sign off on the bill that sent it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They still have to figure out how to fund ice and CBP.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about that coming up.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is the kind of thing is is that
[SPEAKER_01]: It's important that we talk about our wins.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's important that we get out and we do things like today, protesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's important that we know that we can win.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to talk about more of that tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is a Friday night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we can.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we say play day.
[SPEAKER_01]: See, look at this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have fantastic co-host tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have Karen and Anita from the True Blue Politics podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about their new daily podcast venture too.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, more news on tap and drinks too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Fresh in yours and come on back.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's Friday night here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is Friday night here at the Baltics bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: I happen to have two fantastic co-hosts tonight because Jody is still on vacation.
[SPEAKER_01]: She doesn't get to hang out with us tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever Jody, fine you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're missing all the fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Karen and Anita from the True Blue Baltics podcast are here all night tonight.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I see you have some friends behind you there, Karen.
[SPEAKER_07]: I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I have heroes of democracy and free speed.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am going to miss Cole Bear when his show is gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am going to miss.
[SPEAKER_06]: When it's his last show this month now, yeah, I was this month, but it's at the end of the month.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's what is the 20th, 25th 24th something like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, he's coming to MSNBC now, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: He's going to be on MSNBC.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not that I heard.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, there was a rumor about that, but that's I'm.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh no, that's not shown.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's supposed to be he's going to be going to write Co-Rite the next Lord of the Rings movie actually is what I said that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was that was sustained that was confirmed that he is.
[SPEAKER_01]: What a nerd.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah I love that for him.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do too.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do too.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do too.
[SPEAKER_06]: Steve and Cole bears been around for a while
[SPEAKER_06]: I was one of Ron or used to go and they're Steven Colbert playing the son of a killer.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, no, he was the killer.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was the killer.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that's what's going to say.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he was a good boy.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was a good boy.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was more of a good boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was a good boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a good boy.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was a good boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a good boy.
[SPEAKER_07]: He was a good boy.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was a good boy.
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[SPEAKER_07]: his best-body Paul Denello is the older brother of one of my really good friends Dave Denello.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I know all of this Dave Denello's in Paul Denello sisters and so I was like them from like back in high school and stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, oh, back and we grew up.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, we grew up together in the neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, it's people, some of the people that people think are famous.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, some people think they were famous.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, and then like, who do you know?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're always, everybody's like, oh, you know, uh, Carol Burnett's like, yeah, it's Jodie's mom.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so, you know, we, we, we, we, we know of you, people, and, but that's just it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody who is famous or powerful, they know regular people too, which some people think is like, well, what does that mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: It means that you have power.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's important, especially in light of the Supreme Court decision this week, um, on the Voting Rights Act, which I understand that a lot of people are hidden the gut by that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is one of the things that I've mentioned to a lot of people before, especially
[SPEAKER_01]: we can't be hit in the gut and we can't we can't be bold over and and you know whining about it or whatever for a long period of time that's exactly why i i i was talking with who was talking with was it bob this week or maybe Charlie might have been Charlie Pierce who i was talking with and i said i think a hundred percent that alito or somebody in his office leaked it to ronda santis
[SPEAKER_01]: When they were going to drop this decision because then conveniently that they do it in the morning and then put phone the afternoon Florida is able to just ram through how to be Especially because the census was the first state decisions was out ahead of Abbott in Texas who said, oh, we'll redistrict and then of course they didn't actually do it until that dropped how convenient
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, and, you know, the congressional court caucus is on it.
[SPEAKER_07]: So they, they released, they got out in front, A.S. on PBS and so basically they declared that they will fight against voter suppression, aiming to protect voting rights from extremist attacks.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're pushing for the John Lewis voting rights advancement act, accusing the court of allowing partisan gerrymandering to undermine, undermine minority rights.
[SPEAKER_01]: They want to advance version of other, they want an updated version of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, look, I was cheered by the fact that a game Jeffries was out this week and that Cory Booker has been breathing fire lately.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which you guys know, I, you know, Cory's friend of mine and I have, it was so funny because several people I talked to this week, I said, I've been telling for years to breathe fire.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was like, yeah, more, more of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which is, especially because, look, when we stand up against these people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Georgia, where, you know, you folks are listening, some of you folks here in the bar on Georgia now, Georgia's Republican Governor, Brian Kemp, not exactly the most honest guy,
[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, but he says that he will not redraw the Georgia political maps this year Little bit close.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they've already sent out the ballots for their overseas voters already And he just said it would be too much of a mess and too much of a hassle the reason why he said it would be too much of a hassle The reason why they're not doing in Georgia and they're doing an Louisiana is that there's a lot more pushback in Georgia
[SPEAKER_01]: Then there isn't Louisiana.
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but also because Brian Camp knows he can stand up the Donald Trump and still win.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Brian can't be exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you're I think you're right on the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's thinking about himself, which is what we've said before about how Republicans operate Republicans always operate on the modern Republican model.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got mine.
[SPEAKER_01]: F you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, at this point, there are more and more of those Republicans, even though they're not coming out and saying it outright, there are more of them who are starting to act and operate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Remember what Rachel says, watch what they do, not what they say, with by the word Randy said that first anyway.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think if they just be authentic and stand up to them, they would find out that a lot of people would back them.
[SPEAKER_06]: Look at Thomas Massey.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: You and I, you and I, You're getting to that exact same example.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a very well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's that's just it is that he looks like Massey is pretty solid and it's I mean it's meager polling at the house level But what polling there is it looks like Massey is pretty well on track to win his primary in an area where You know, there are a lot of places because of jury-mandering where the person who wins the primary wins the general and Massey is in one of those But the fact is if Massey wins that and then he cruises to victory in the fall
[SPEAKER_01]: that will be the kind of thing that will be a beacon to a lot of other Republicans to say you can stand up to Donning and give him the finger and be okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: But you have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have to have
[SPEAKER_06]: that people know they can stand up to.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, but here's the thing that they don't want to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, but here's the other thing that can power the folks on our side and need to.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is this is the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is why we have a great piece from Greg Sargent over the new Republic.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've titled it to can play at this game, Skoda's decision shows Democrats could gain up to 22 seats in this house through a aggressive jerrymandering.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's in the second round of the page on tap.
[SPEAKER_07]: Look, blue states come on.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can go all 52 states in California.
[SPEAKER_01]: We can get every seat that's in Illinois.
[SPEAKER_01]: And people say, well, that that's not right because there are Republicans, there are more Republicans who voted for Donald Trump at California, then there are in a lot of the red states, but there are far more Democrats in the independence and third party voters who voted for Democrats, then the broad left as Bruce Bartlett calls it out in California.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why California is so quote unquote blue because, you know, so many of the Democrats provide better candidates and that's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that so many Democrats are stopping being afraid, they're standing up and they're saying, you know what, I have freaking had enough of this and the voters have had enough of it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you know, and I mean, you talk about, you know, the affordability and accountability.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: More and more people, I mean, I literally, and we were talking about this to the gas prices.
[SPEAKER_07]: He was feeling it at the pump.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, when this all started, it was, we, the gas station right by my house, 279 per gallon.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is now currently sitting at 509.
[SPEAKER_07]: God.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is worst right now, according to Triple A, the worst states in the country for gas prices right now, Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois.
[SPEAKER_01]: and then the west coast, Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, Alaska, and Hawaii.
[SPEAKER_01]: The ones in the Midwest are basically because of there's some refinery issues, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you're looking at yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it went up basically a dime almost.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was 430 yesterday.
[SPEAKER_01]: National averages 439 today.
[SPEAKER_01]: A week ago was 405.
[SPEAKER_01]: A year ago, it was 318.
[SPEAKER_07]: when it was Joe Biden it was was two eighty seven two years ago um... three leaven one one five people are paying attention when you have their attention or take advantage of it and yes like you know to the the situation when
[SPEAKER_07]: Texas thought that they were going to be able to hand Donald Trump five seats and what because of all of the attacks on the Latino community.
[SPEAKER_07]: There's a 23, 26, Anita.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a swing.
[SPEAKER_07]: 30, 20, 30 swing away from Republicans by in the Latino community in Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is just exactly where we were talking about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: You and I were starting to talk, Karen and Anita came in and we were talking about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is what the, well, the four of us with Chutty.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about when they started these redistricting wars.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we, remember everybody, we talked about this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry Anita isn't Texas and how, with the partisan voter index, they thought that they would just get these areas of Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: They would get these seats.
[SPEAKER_01]: They would get these districts.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, we'll just rig this district as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: and they're ending up making more districts because the PVI, the partisan voter index, that baseline used to be 5 points plus or minus.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now because Democrats have kept winning so many of the special elections, that PVI baseline is closer to a 15 instead of a 5,
[SPEAKER_01]: And Republicans took seats that were 10 and 12 and 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: And parsed them out with some of those places where they had only five.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, well, now, I've got, you know, seven, eight, nine.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you go, dude, the baseline is now 15.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have made.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not so.
[SPEAKER_01]: Seeds potentially.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're not safe if you're living a plus now.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, hey.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so, you know, love him or hate him, Gavin Newsome.
[SPEAKER_07]: answer the call it to the voters right in pop fast fan burger mind work right exactly and so now with this happening okay so fine you want to say that you can call it racial jerrymandering or a redistricting we're going to call it partisan redistricting we can do it in all of the blues they remember the guy who the guy who wrote the partisan redistricting is okay decision is the same jackass who just wrote the most recent one a lead-o.
[SPEAKER_01]: and he did it at the behest of Roberts and then going oh yeah well partisan redistricting is okay okay fine so you want to put all the black voters in one district we can put all the maga voters in another you want to play that game we're gonna go boy howdy and you guys are gonna lose on their side that and you know they're gonna squeal oh my god they can do it but you guys that's what they did yeah yeah what they did with Virginia and you know the thing is
[SPEAKER_06]: Virginia bullet on this, the bonus decided on this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, we do.
[SPEAKER_06]: Foreigners voters decided on that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we did.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, we did.
[SPEAKER_06]: Texas and North Carolina.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just shove it down on the floor.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Florida, too, remember, there were public and Florida, I've just been doing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And without the consent of the Florida voters, that's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And without the consent of the Texas voters.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're still, you know, oh, no, that's unfair.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, boohoo, this is, this is me rubbing my fingers together.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like it, but what I'm actually doing is I'm playing the world's smallest violin for all those people who are still writing boohoo.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know, but they just, I mean, it's just, they're so shameless about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are, but that's the thing that Democrats need to have a lot more of is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shamelessness?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shamelessness is doing the right thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Shamelessness is not being ashamed to do the right thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though normally this would not be the right thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we all admit, we would much rather have these be even districts.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a clip we had earlier this week from Representative Acasio Cortez.
[SPEAKER_01]: who they some some semi journalist a cost of her on the steps of the capital with a bunch of the other people in the media from and was like what would you do and she says every single place the democrats new york california alone everywhere where we've got the the the the trifectes and the majorities damn skipy we should do the same thing to them that they're doing right on until they're off
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm going to show them.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Wait.
[SPEAKER_06]: You stopped them because that's the only thing where they respond to is pain on their side.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're not expecting it anymore.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is the thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: They don't expect it.
[SPEAKER_07]: They have always been able to weaponize our goodness against us.
[SPEAKER_07]: They've always been able to, you know, relax, you know, like, play.
[SPEAKER_07]: We play by the rules.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys are playing by Robert's rules while we get to go over and play by Chicago rules.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and it's been done by the rules and you know, no fair.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you can't be the offender and the victim at this time.
[SPEAKER_05]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of bells today because look, hearing it need to are right and awful.
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just saying you guys are right.
[SPEAKER_06]: This is one of the things it really drives crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Me too.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the reason why that I am so glad to see A.O.C.
[SPEAKER_01]: stand up to see Jeffries standing up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have for years that this has been, I know I've said it a lot recently and it's because of the fact that this bothers me.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like when you have a friend that you know could be so much better at doing the good things that they do.
[SPEAKER_01]: and they're constantly pulling themselves back because they feel that they need to be smaller for whatever reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, look, I love you.
[SPEAKER_01]: But seriously, stop your freak flag fight.
[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: I do that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I tell Anita that all the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just telling people, I'm telling people look and this is one of the reason why I'm like, he can be a badass.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he can say, you know what I'm having enough, he doesn't need an anger translator.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need we need to have more Democrats who are willing to say, you know what, I'm taking off the gloves.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to town.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to punch them as hard or harder than they punch me.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also like the fact that AOC said, we need to do it until.
[SPEAKER_01]: the moment that we can get in and make it fair, make fair redistricting for everybody across the country, we absolutely need to do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll take power, but we also need to do the honorable thing, take power as much of as it takes to get things fixed and then fix them so that others I can't f them up again.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I want to say something about the morning talk shows on Sundays.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we could talk about we we got stuff to talk about there's there's some really good news in in the media section today in segment six and round six of the news on tap This is something I think you guys are going to be really really glad to hear I was extremely glad when I read this today, and I don't think you guys got to that point in reading the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_06]: So look, we'll we'll get a chance to be doing meet the press
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, no, no, there's there's there's something even better than look, yeah, we'll talk about it here coming up look Uh, we've got the drink of the day that I want to talk about that, too So let's do the drink of the day and the media stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: You guys sound good That was good All right, we will do that next fresh in your drink is a Friday night I've got Karen and Anita from True Blue politics podcast here and we've got you here as well fresh in your drink and come right back hang on
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are at the politics bar, which is where Karen and Anita of the True Blue politics podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I am, uh, I want to talk about some of this media stuff, but I also want to get to the drink of the day because we've already been talking about it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those of you who are subscribed, you know exactly what I'm talking about and for those who are not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me run this down.
[SPEAKER_01]: The drink of the day today is a Mayflower Martini inspired, of course, bye.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mayday!
[SPEAKER_01]: Which, yes, Mayday is obviously its international workers day as we mentioned in the top of the show, also known as International Labor Day, but also happens to be several other holidays.
[SPEAKER_01]: Jody did a great job putting this together.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is the Festival of Flora for Romans.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is the Celtic holiday of Beltane.
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I always celebrate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: While purchase nights, uh, that's a dramatic, uh, and then there's, um, the may pull that you were talking about earlier Anita.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's more of an English British kind of a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We, we've jodys got a great history of all of that in there, which is, it's excellent.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I recommend you got a video you can watch.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, that's just a few guys can get for free with the drink of the day.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're subscribed, you happen to get the recipe.
[SPEAKER_01]: as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the Mayfeller Martini is for those of you who are out protesting today, you guys may like this one here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me run it down for you quick.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need a shaker.
[SPEAKER_01]: ice, a pre-chilled martini glass, as Jodi says, always pre-chilled, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: One and a half ounces of dry gin, half an ounce of elder flour lacour, half an ounce of lexardo apricots, al dacaua, lucure, basically apricot lacure.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need a half an ounce of apple juice or apple cider.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need the unsweetened cloudy stuff, because you don't want to make it too sweet.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to have an ounce of lemon juice, also freshly squeezed.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need two drops of a saline solution, basically it's salt water.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or you can just toss in a tiny pinch of salt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Table salt for this one will do.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little bit better if you happen to have a little granular salt, sea salt, but whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anacorce lemon zest twist.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is how you make your Mayflower martini.
[SPEAKER_01]: You put all of those ingredients in the shaker and you shake it with ice until it's cold, strain it in the martini glass, express the lemon zest twist.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's simple, it's easy, and after all of you have been processing it, it's refreshing, especially as you know, temperatures start to kick up a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_07]: So if you guys take Kila with a splash of wine, does it?
[SPEAKER_01]: You can have whatever you want to drink.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is after all the politics bar to answer.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't have the special item in the neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just have me to Kila.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take either.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys miss any part of the drink of the day, you know what to
[SPEAKER_01]: I am heartened by the made a strong protest today, and I'm heartened by this media news.
[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of, uh, bill boarded it for us here before the break.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you go down to the sixth round today and the media entertainment and more section, under medium matters, there is a major U.S. progressive donor network known as democracy alliance.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is announced they are planning to invest literally tens of millions of dollars in new left-leaning media sources.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, maybe some more established ones too.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're basically pulling stuff away from some of the ads and broadcast TV and I gotta say,
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[SPEAKER_06]: It's so hard that people on the left do what we do, because there's not that kind of financing billionaires on art, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, here's the biggest, here's the biggest problem, you know, there are some groups like the Career Newsroom, and by the way, one of our friends who was here earlier this week, I believe it's in general of Jared has worked with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember if he did, but I do happen to know that Carolyn Fiddler has worked with the career newsroom, but they've struggled to build their own thing, they're involved with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that there are some folks who are involved with more perfect union, they're involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, the idea is the left cleaning media.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been screaming this for 30 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: that we on the left, the rich people, the limousine liberals on the left, need to invest in in a parallel media system, the same as the folks on the right did.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we've talked about this before.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are plenty of studies that say, look, in any election, the media can shift things one to three percent.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the reason why the right spends literally billions of dollars every year.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they have a mainstream bench.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have multiple.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't just have the Fox propaganda channel, which is the main one that everybody on the right and they're, you know, hateless go to.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they also happen to have fake backs is what I call it news backs.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not news.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... they have o a nn so that they have they have three just the end then of course obviously they've taken over cbs and they influence cn and because many of the people in the mainstream media uh... complying advance they've taken over the washington post and turned into a rag uh... there are a few people who occasionally get through some decent stories there but you know there there's they've been at this they've been at this for fifty years they've been at this literally since the regnary
[SPEAKER_06]: to try to say the narrative though they said that would it's not just that maybe the one to three percent or whatever I think it was three percent.
[SPEAKER_06]: They set a narrative like sometimes legacy media let's say NBC or ABC Fox news will be on a story.
[SPEAKER_06]: And because Fox News continues to talk about it, a lot of times ABC and NBC and all the other way to see it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me explain this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because this is something that media pros like me have been doing this for 30 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is how this works.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you've got a story that's ridiculous like that, and this is where the parallel media infrastructure happens.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, the parallel media infrastructure on the right is their further out blogs, further out podcast, the ones that aren't as mainstream, the folks who are really nuts, the folks who are really racist, and really misogynist, and then they make their way towards the Fox channel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, towards the Fox propaganda channel.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to, you know, the Fox entertainment channel is different than the Fox propaganda channel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, but they make their way towards that.
[SPEAKER_01]: so they can take a call center somebody like that they come up with a really weird ass idea and they keep pushing it in the out and then that goes closer to the main and it goes closer to the main and by the time Fox gets to it they have all these people on the right screaming this is an actual story thank you so even the perfect then does he's a perfect example of that and there is a story there but not the story they're pushing so this is how the propaganda gets mainstreamed
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: On the left, we have had for 30 years.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have not had that secondary thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like I'm saying let's push left wing propaganda.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying let's take stories that are actually important about the corruption of, of, of, yes, obviously of the Trump regime and of the maggots and other Republicans as Supreme Court decision.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, we're doing something change.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's talk about climate change.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are all stories that need to be, but
[SPEAKER_01]: Our mainstream says, well, is it a big story that, so when you're, when you're a, a credentialed degree journalist, I'm a degree journalist, I've had credentials before, um, you go through a process of deciding whether something is a story or not.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things is is are the facts known.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are the facts known right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it important right now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, is it new?
[SPEAKER_01]: There are a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of quote unquote news that isn't new.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's recycled.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some people are like, uh, oh, oh, tell the story about how nut like is going to be in front of the the committee next week about the Epstein stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: that story was published three months ago.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a new story.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not news.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there are there are decisions that are made on a basic.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then there are stories, for example, some of the climate climate issue stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the fact that it is, it is so much cheaper now to use almost anything you want from green energy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Solar, wind, the battery technology, is this is where China is making leaps and bounds in front of the U.S. And these very important
[SPEAKER_01]: But then you have to look at, especially if you're in the national media, is this important to the broadest section of people?
[SPEAKER_01]: And is it something they need to know right now?
[SPEAKER_06]: And also, where they watch it, that's the problem.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, a lot of people that's ever built on a watch stuff about climate change.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they're a lot of people that actually do a need of, but they know the thing, the thing where it gets, the thing where it gets, for example, on climate stories, most of the time.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it even gets it for us when we put out the news on tap is,
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the thing that Steve Bannon always said about, you know, we're going to be out ahead of you because they're out there out there setting fires, and you have to tell people, your pants are on fire, your shoes are on fire, your hat is on fire, especially everything's on fire all the time now.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you put that you put the fire on your hat and then they go, now there's a fire on your ass.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so people say yes, so a lot of that stuff that secondarily, it's important, but it's not necessarily that important, it gets pushed down.
[SPEAKER_01]: The way that it gets pushed back up is to have an entire secondary set of media to have a whole different secondary channel of people taking these stories and talking about them on the left.
[SPEAKER_01]: and talking about, for example, battery and energy, and how this could be saving so much money, and how this could be saving people so much money, people who have EVs and PHVs, like that's my wife and I have.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have a plug-in electric hybrid, yes, it's gas, but it's also electric and you plug it in.
[SPEAKER_01]: EVs and PHVs right now, the demand is skyrocketing for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even though so many of the car companies ran away because Donald said, well, screw the EV people,
[SPEAKER_01]: People themselves individuals are desperate to buy them right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: And especially now, what's happening?
[SPEAKER_06]: People are really saying, hey, gas is going to be six dollars a gallon.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so what he is in, like, four states, five states now?
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, that might be the silver lining in all of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he actually is.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's been looking for it.
[SPEAKER_01]: All of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're 100% right in need of all of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: David Roberts, who is a great climate journalist and a great climate podcaster, he happens to be talking and he has continually talking about the stuff with the silver lining to Donald's and BB's stupid ass Iran war is the fact that it is pushing the technology
[SPEAKER_01]: around the world, especially green energy technology.
[SPEAKER_01]: There are lots of places around the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: We would consider second and third world nations, or at least the traditional people would say they're the second.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're skipping entire parts of the technological advance and they're going right to batteries, right to solar and wind and green energy in any way that they can.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because it is so much cheaper right now, but just on the basis of paying for for getting to work and getting home and getting the kids around right now American say where can I find a solution there's a lot of journalism that could be given to that, but it needs an alternative left leaning secondary it needs a farm team basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so these these people are saying we're going to give tens of millions that's the kind of thing where you go this is great because tie-in to some of the folks at MS now who may not be as far left as some of the folks want but also tie-in to Zateo and also tie-in to radio, which is much cheaper than TV so tie-in to Stephanie and Tom and Osirith politics bark and tie-in to podcasts like the true blue politics podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh because
[SPEAKER_01]: We already have been doing this for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have our mainstream and our farm team.
[SPEAKER_01]: They should help to fund the mainstream and the farm team that already exists.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how left-leaning media is going to make that kind of a jump.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just like some of those nations are making the jump and saying, screw this, we're going to skip the coal stuff and go straight to solar.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is how we do it in the media.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we we've got to talk to those folks, but there is there are solutions out there And I want people not to be despairing because right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we were talking obviously before the the top of the hour here about the media stuff and I need you had to get up and you know go take a few things and and Karen and I were talking.
[SPEAKER_01]: You had this this this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: excuse me I have to go check on my dog.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's like Donald this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was just standing in their hands in his pants playing with his ballroom
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, let's not get into borrowers.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the phrase that you were using Karen is you said, It's time for Democrats.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for the broad left.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that phrase that Bruce Bartlett has.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, your Michael Steele, God, I love you, but please re-register as a Democrat Republicans.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're independence.
[SPEAKER_01]: And your Democrats of every stripe, your progressives, your liberals, your sensuous Democrats, what a coalition of the decent, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that phrase.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for everybody who is in that coalition to be fearless.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: To stop being afraid, what if we fail?
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, if you fail, you have pick your ass up.
[SPEAKER_01]: You dust yourself off and you get back up and you go kick some ass.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's what Timothy Snyder says in that, he's the, uh, uh, tyranny on tyranny.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, one of the things, uh, he says you have to be courageous.
[SPEAKER_06]: We have to be courageous.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have to be courageous.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I think Democrats are being more of that, which is good.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's easy to see why.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, the cost of Trump's stupid ass venture in Iran.
[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, did you hear this today?
[SPEAKER_01]: So the the Iranians sent another updated piece proposal to the mediators and Pakistan.
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't ended the third round of the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_01]: They said basically they keep saying the same thing they've been saying multiple times, which is we please sign the JCPOA will take Obama's name off It's so you don't have to go all the black man has his name on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll take it off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just They are effectively from the sources that I hear there basically saying we want the same worst similar to what we have before the JCPOA We'll take Obama's name off Donald so you can put your crayon scroll on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You give us more of our money back
[SPEAKER_01]: and we'll open this thing up because the whole rest of the world has been trying to communicate with them because most of the rest of the world knows even though it's hard to communicate with the random they don't like their government it's easier and more sane to communicate with them than it is to try to communicate with the Trump regime right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: He is really a hole.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but he's in a fast situation.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, what does he, he doesn't can't win.
[SPEAKER_06]: He will not.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a piece.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a piece earlier.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had a piece yesterday I believe it was from Paul Krugman who said the way the way to get a deal is to not get a deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing is they have to do face saving maneuvers on both side.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, in the Arab world, the Iranians can't simply just say, yes, Massa, whatever you say, Massa, they can't.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's for them, they can't, because then that would make the whole area even more unstable.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to give them some face to save as the phrase goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Donald Trump will not accept anything other than something that makes him in his mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the key in his mind.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_06]: But here's why why are we even talking about that?
[SPEAKER_06]: Why is Paul Krugman even talking about that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because Krugman is out because it's affecting everybody's economy in the whole world.
[SPEAKER_06]: And seeing that, but once again, Donald Trump is going to, you know, play the hero.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what Krugman is saying is what Krugman is saying is the only deal that you're going to make is no deal at all.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's it's talking about the only way this happens is that right the only one of the only happens is getting everything back to the basically the way it was before and going oops sorry and letting Donald going his merry way because otherwise Donald's anyway he's where you look at an Americans have lost like we have lost already yes and so is the world so it makes those sense I mean he
[SPEAKER_06]: We're losing billions of dollars.
[SPEAKER_06]: People are suffering.
[SPEAKER_07]: People are suffering.
[SPEAKER_06]: People are suffering.
[SPEAKER_07]: People are suffering.
[SPEAKER_01]: People are suffering.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Supreme Court the reason Donald Torito is because whether anybody wants to believe it or not Donald Trump is a racist Donald Trump is a small ego.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know that's a by the way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Did you know the water is wet Anita?
[SPEAKER_07]: I know it's a Yeah, it's a In terms of water.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's wet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly Bob says gloves that line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so, but here's the thing so so
[SPEAKER_01]: The reason the Donald Trump tore up the JCPOA is because Donald Trump can't handle the fact that a black man got the deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the first and that ties into the Supreme Court decision because they're saying, well, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: The people that surround Donald Trump and that side with Donald Trump can't stand the fact that black people have the same rights to vote in America as everybody else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Black and brown people, they don't want them to vote.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how they attacked the voting rights act.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how we let that happen.
[SPEAKER_01]: So people go, oh, wow.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just that's the full arc of the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to tell the full arc of the story.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not hard.
[SPEAKER_06]: I get that, but you know what we were talking about this earlier today.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_06]: The reason why it's not just about
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, stop it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not because they just want to stop black people from voting.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's because black people vote for Democrats, at least people want to Continue to stay in power.
[SPEAKER_06]: The two of us are exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, nothing is all of the above.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: But I mean, the base, there are people in the basis.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't even think now it's, you know, people anybody will say to you, they don't think black people should be able to vote.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, I think we've evolved at least that much that they, they, and they're, there are people that we'll, when they, they've been, they've been there if there is it's very well, but there are, there are more than they're used to because they've been involved in by the right wing hate me, and then they can't have it, Kaelan black people very long as they vote Republican.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, right, but see, but this is the thing and need, of course, we talked about this because of the fact that our base is the black community.
[SPEAKER_07]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: They probably think it's right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Black women are the base of the Democratic Party as far as voting goes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's one of the reasons that they attacked.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of the reasons that John Roberts has had the voted rights act in his sights for years and years and years exactly exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So all of this ties together, and this is fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also think we need to start understanding that the Sunday shows are not all of the all that and be that of everything in the media.
[SPEAKER_01]: TV is not the end all and be all of everything in the media.
[SPEAKER_07]: But if Democrats are going to go on there, then they have to be very clear and concise and absolutely speak clearly and let people know exactly what they're going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to make sure that the people who are investing in left-leaning me and the other thing we have to make sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: So this brings us to the
[SPEAKER_01]: be becoming comfortable with being uncomfortable thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't put the story in because we had the story yesterday in the news on tap, but obviously on Fridays as you know, we recap the news from the week.
[SPEAKER_01]: So for those of you who missed it yesterday, Janet Mills pulled out of the
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, I am not a fan of Graham Platters.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't live in Maine, so I don't have a say there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Open Wednesday now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look, he's going to be the Democratic and Schumer and the DNC and everybody has said, yes, that we'll support him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever, that's fine, you all can do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still think that he is dishonest.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's too many questions there with things like his comments about black people and women.
[SPEAKER_01]: And his Nazi tattoo.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I think she's with him.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's for sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: But of course, I'd rather have him than a Republican.
[SPEAKER_07]: But see, this is the thing we said, you know, I mean, I just, he gives me the Fatterman vibe.
[SPEAKER_01]: He does.
[SPEAKER_01]: The mansion, the cinema, the mansion.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and unfortunately though, I mean, that that is going to be the only way we get rid of Susan Collins.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my concern.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I said Susan Collins comes to concern, you know, she's on concern.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she actually do something about Susan.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, I forgot everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, but the whole thing is, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys understand, okay, have you ever have either of you ever taken a race driving class or gotten into any stories like that the F1 movie that was on Apple, I don't know if it either of you.
[SPEAKER_06]: I need to watch that.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, I don't want to watch that because it's for a guy Brad Pitt, okay?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things when you learn about race driving that people learn that a lot of people are surprised about is that there are actually three inputs.
[SPEAKER_01]: to driving.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you need three inputs and they're go or stop, it's not just gas and break.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is something that's known as drift.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's where you basically lift your foot, and I don't mean literally, but you lift your foot off the gas.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have your foot still touching it, but you're not actually pressing the pedal down.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not accelerating.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are using the inertia of the car to swing the car in different ways.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there are three types of motion when it comes to driving a race car.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is acceleration, there is deceleration, also known as braking, and there is drifting.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is that third one where you're not in that.
[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to things about supporting political candidates, there is also three different levels that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can be active and you can be active for candidates who aren't in your area.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're a big fan of Mallorne McMarrow and you're like, I think she would be the best one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you think she would be the best for Michigan.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to be in Michigan to support Mallorne McMarrow.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can say, I would I support.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go donate to her and whatever and that's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you can be actively against a particular candidate.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can say candidate X in whatever location and I don't like them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think, and you can tell your friends and you can tell people on social meeting tell you tell your friends real life, you know, on the phone and whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we should vote for, you know, person X, whatever.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's also that third way, that third way of, I don't live in Maine.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not my decision who mayors vote for anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm also not going to actively support Graham Plattener because I have too many questions and there's not enough good answers.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm not going to talk about Graham Plattener.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am not going to push anything forward unless it happens to be news.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to ignore it if it's news.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not going to make a point to bring his name up.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not going to support him.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to let the people of Maine one way or the other completely decide and I'm not
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's drift.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that third third acceleration.
[SPEAKER_07]: And here's the thing, like we're, you know, none of us live in Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And yet, John Fetterman did affect all of us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can't live in Arizona, Pennsylvania.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I've said, please, when you get a chance, vote against Fetterman and get it out of there.
[SPEAKER_07]: We don't live in West Virginia, and yet Joe Manchin affected all of us or Arizona in Arizona and yet care here since it all of us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but that's, but that's just, you can, you can be actively against.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can be putting the break on Center of Fetterman and telling all the people you know in Pennsylvania vote against him and encourage him to retire and spend time with his family.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's perfectly fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can be on the gas and you can say, please vote for Rally McMarrow and Michigan.
[SPEAKER_01]: She is the best candidate according to me and I think she would be a fantastic center.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can put on the gas as far as that goes, but you can also drift and you can say, you know, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say anything one way or the other positive or negative about the person who's going to pick up the Democratic nomination in Maine for Senate.
[SPEAKER_01]: you let mainers deal with it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we'll do for tele Rico instead.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah, well for tele Rico.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's absolutely illegal, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll look, look, we got more news on tap to talk about here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am glad that we we talked a little bit more about, you know, some some of the media and the politics stuff and about how people, they need to get active and for those people who were active today.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank God, God, I love you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody who was asked that for the media strong protests, um, wasn't promoted as much in the mainstream, although I did see Emma's now doing a bunch of stuff, I saw CNN doing, I think one thing I saw earlier this afternoon, they did, I don't think they did a whole lot, but at least they did something.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was on a Friday, you know, that's part of it too.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think that might have.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, heard it.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, a little bit maybe, but it's just the fact that, you know, I mean,
[SPEAKER_01]: whatever day it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to make sure that we're always involved and keeping updated as much as we can be.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, you know, that this is one of the reasons why we put out the news on tap for everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I, in the fourth round by the way, things you may have missed in the Republicans can't govern section.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, we noted earlier that Trump placed a 25% tariff on autos from the EU.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's something else.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, new data in the New York Times proves after Republicans in Congress let
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really, really, our friend Charles Gabba, the data guru over at ACA Signups.net.
[SPEAKER_01]: He, we had him in the bar here last fall and he said that's exactly what would happen if the Republicans in Congress let the ACA subsidies expire and Charles.
[SPEAKER_01]: You are right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he's in the bar bear somewhere.
[SPEAKER_06]: They remind me of that agricultural secretary bragging about how they 4 million people have dropped off of uh, put assistance, food stamps because they cut the buildings because they cut them.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, so they're adding 4 million people star of a new year.
[SPEAKER_01]: She was too busy.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've he now former labor secretary was too busy trying to
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't get mad and I'm talking about the agriculture secretary who knows what she was doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, you're right.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_06]: I thought you're talking about the labor secretary The labor secretary dreamer.
[SPEAKER_06]: What's your name?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've asked a remer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's she's gone.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, they most of those folks were at the Big White House correspondent's dinner event.
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't haven't seen her haven't seen you guys since the event.
[SPEAKER_01]: What did you guys think of?
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not even but how people reacted or misreacted to it
[SPEAKER_06]: It was very strange, honestly.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was just a, I don't know, the whole thing with, um, Donald Trump just sitting there like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: I, I don't know, and the fact that his whole cabinet, everybody was there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everybody was there.
[SPEAKER_06]: Was there a, what do they call that the survivor?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it was Chuck Grassley.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's what I think it was.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think it was that person in the state department, Chuck Grassley, looking for a sugar daddy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, God, I'm heard about that one too.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, that has to be a cabinet member, so it couldn't be.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, it also, Chuck Grassley could not be the designated survivor,
[SPEAKER_06]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I mean, you know, everybody was there.
[SPEAKER_06]: What the hell was going on?
[SPEAKER_06]: So he has to bring his cheering squad everywhere he goes.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was, look, that's that's the kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: He also because he had, he had forecast that he was going to get up there and go around the room.
[SPEAKER_01]: And basically beat these people with a verbal stick and say, F U and F U and F U and U suck and U suck and U suck.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, he never got to,
[SPEAKER_06]: He wouldn't made an ass of himself anyway.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, it would have been a call.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if he would have made an ass of himself, how could you tell the difference from his normal being?
[SPEAKER_06]: I do.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, because they're like the White House correspondent and state are going after everybody in the media.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's who he is with that's why we had a couple of great pieces this week from Parker Maloy and from Goldie Taylor, who made the point that everybody should be making, at least everybody in the national media, which is,
[SPEAKER_01]: the White House correspondent's dinner needs to end.
[SPEAKER_01]: There could be another event, but it shouldn't be that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if we want to earn back the trust of the people who are listening and watching and reading, that kind of event, clearly they don't want to though, Sean.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, from some of the people care and that I've talked to, the big thing is a lot of the people who are involved in reporting politics.
[SPEAKER_01]: they get frustrated because politics is hard for there are a lot of people especially thanks to Donald Trump and the maggots who have completely turned out all news media because of the ugliness.
[SPEAKER_01]: of Trump and his regime and all those monsters.
[SPEAKER_01]: They've just said, and they get trashed by everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And even even in good times, even in better times.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, everybody's always coming after them.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nobody likes the media.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm telling you.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nobody likes this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's been easily 30, 35 years since the media had a lot more respect.
[SPEAKER_01]: And
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the people in political media are like, I just, I want a day where I feel like people thank me.
[SPEAKER_01]: For the, and this is some people who are very legitimate.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is something to thank you for.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, if you're not asking as a check.
[SPEAKER_07]: And here's the thing, you know, we were, we were, we were all, I mean, and even I watched MSNBC, the entire first term.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: And, you know, even after the, the first term, they lost us.
[SPEAKER_07]: They disrespect their audience.
[SPEAKER_01]: And look, and I've said this before, we talked this week, I believe with Jared and with John, about the fact of, you know, them saying, why are so many of these people?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I can tell you as somebody who's been, who's been in business meetings that I didn't want to be in, who has been in meetings about these kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_01]: In the national mainstream media, especially your executives, the media executives have to deal with the same crap that every other corporate executive deals with these days.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of which quite frankly is we've got a lot of problems in financing and taxes.
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to tax the crap out of corporations and the rich.
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, that would help out a lot.
[SPEAKER_07]: But that's the big problem for them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are constantly told, well, you need double-gidget increases in the good stuff in our values and our ratings and all this stuff, the value of the company quarter over quarter or year over year and you're like, okay, first of all, they set, well, look, if you've worked, if you've worked in a retail job, it has some type of commission or they have some type of metrics where they say you have to have them.
[SPEAKER_01]: you folks here in the bar know you guys worked in those kinds of places where they're like you have to get 10 asks of how may I help you and you're doing it I didn't run into 10 different people I was in the back room working most of the day and they go what's that's not enough and you're like
[SPEAKER_01]: These are the kinds of things that they run and do in the corporate suites as well, unfortunately.
[SPEAKER_01]: And many of them don't have the internal constitution, the ethics, the morality, to say, you know, what f you?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do my job the best I can.
[SPEAKER_01]: You do your job, you pencil neck, douchebag, and they don't say those kinds of things.
[SPEAKER_01]: They don't like people like me who do say those kinds of things to them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're terrified of people like me who aren't terrified of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: The people who will buy anything and pay a ton of time, do a lot of what's known in streaming media, and in radio, and in broadcast media as TSL or TSV, time spent listening or time spent viewing.
[SPEAKER_01]: They basically want people who will sit in front of whatever media it is, whether it's YouTube or your local broadcast TV station,
[SPEAKER_01]: and watch it for 26 hours out of a 24 hour day and buy every damn full thing that comes across on the ads.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what they want.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I get that from a money standpoint where you're not looking at human beings as real people.
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand that that's great for their corporate numbers.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's absolutely fine.
[SPEAKER_07]: Good for tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the final line is that it's just toned up right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right is so toned up right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: We've got this guy.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, no, there's no argument.
[SPEAKER_06]: All of that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Enemy of the people saying all these horrible things.
[SPEAKER_06]: So much corruption.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And for and and basically trying to be a dictator.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we've got them what the legacy meet all these media personalities.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not 100 percent correct on that Anita, 100 percent, but I want to make sure that everybody understands the pressures that the folks on the top are feeling and the pressures that the people in the middle, the people that we see on the TV and here on the radio that they're feeling right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hang on, let me finish this out because here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the way to do it is to know that you have that secondary media.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you go, I mean, look, we have some great folks, Jim Acosta, for example,
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, uh, a Katie fan who used to be doing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Most German.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And because they know that they can go, you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I went from doing that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And now I'm doing this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Terry Moran.
[SPEAKER_01]: Another good one.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And look, Terry Moran, I know is is more conservative.
[SPEAKER_01]: Many different.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But look, we, we have a lot of those people.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, role in Martin, who's, who's been doing it for years.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact of the matter is that.
[SPEAKER_01]: if you know that you're not going to starve if you know that that if you hold the line and you do the right thing and some executive who's worried about making their stupid ass numbers comes in and tells you you got to be you got to kiss up to Donald's ass.
[SPEAKER_01]: There is somebody whose name I will not say and I don't want anybody else to say if any of you know who this is who at one time in my career told me that I had to do that that I had to kiss.
[SPEAKER_01]: that me and my team are going to have to kiss somebody's ass so that way we could get the Trump people in and I told them to take a flying after the rolling donut um uh that and that's being polite into how I said it and yeah did it make things difficult?
[SPEAKER_01]: No question absolutely but I also knew that my skills and my abilities were such that
[SPEAKER_01]: if I left that job, other jobs would come and I have.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to not be afraid.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have to as, as you're saying, Karen, exactly be fearless.
[SPEAKER_06]: And a lot of a lot of the other people were talking about the White House course on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And what you do the White House on its nearest not go.
[SPEAKER_01]: And you tell other people,
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going because my integrity as such could not legitimately look you in the face and tell you the news tomorrow and have my asset that event.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to be feded.
[SPEAKER_01]: I would like people to treat me.
[SPEAKER_01]: with respect and joy at the great work that I do to try to provide you real news about this politics.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I can't do that and also go to this event, even though it would be a blast.
[SPEAKER_06]: They should have had the event.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: They should not have had it.
[SPEAKER_06]: The White House Correspondence Donald Trump separated the White House from the White House Correspondent.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: So they're the, they, they no longer decide who will be in the White House press room.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the, and the president of the White House correspondents, when on a time rate talking about how what a threat this was to freedom of the press and everything else.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then they go and do this, where they make him the old, they invite him and they don't want her.
[SPEAKER_01]: I need her.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not wrong on any of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think people need to know is it is.
[SPEAKER_07]: But I do think it's important, Sean, to bring that up and to see all that part of it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's the story.
[SPEAKER_06]: That is the story that people need to hear.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: The story that people need to hear.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think is a lot of those people.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are afraid.
[SPEAKER_01]: As everybody else, they are afraid.
[SPEAKER_01]: People don't want to hear that story.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, but that's the story it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's important to understand.
[SPEAKER_06]: I know, but I'm just saying, you know what people don't hear that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's important.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because Anita at some point, I mean, it's, it's, it's an excuse.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, we understand that that, that is their reality, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: But what being fearless in this moment is, is saying,
[SPEAKER_01]: FU, but there's a difference between being doing it at anger and doing it in disappointment and disgust.
[SPEAKER_07]: They just didn't have to do it.
[SPEAKER_07]: They just didn't have to do it, they just didn't have to do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm saying, I'm saying, this is never gone to the White House course on its center.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a matter of hasn't because they understand there should be a separation between the White House and the correspondence.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think we'll thank each other on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're, I mean, we all agree on it.
[SPEAKER_06]: But my point is, yes, I understand these people have to worry about their jobs and they're secure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: to be fearless.
[SPEAKER_01]: And in fact, that we need you to be furious right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: So right, so I can't trust you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to write you off forever, but I'm going to go to a different source.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have to tell the people who are saying they're going to fund these alternative sources.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then we have to make the rest of the rest for them is Sean, that we have written them off forever.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we already have some of the fact that they get this worst correspondence dinner.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, we're not surprised by that.
[SPEAKER_06]: No, the fact, you know, that they would allow this man who's trying to destroy them to be the guest of honor at their dinner, and to sit there and do their face and bash them and tell them off and tell them how horrible they are and how their traders and blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, look, I'm not in any disagreement, I'm not in any disagreement at all, but I think it's important that people also understand those folks behind the TVs and the radio and the podcast, they're the mainstream media.
[SPEAKER_01]: they are people just like us and especially many of them are right but we got to tell them look I'm gonna go elsewhere until you learn to be fearless because you guys got to learn to be fearless I'm gonna go elsewhere I'll go to you know Stephanie Miller show where the politics bar and you know well we'll listen and have some fun there when you guys get your act together we'll come back
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, speaking of come back, we got one more round you guys want to hang out and uh, do one Yeah, that's cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got one more round last call coming up Friday night.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's you and me and Karen and Anita from True Blue politics podcast right here at the politics bar hang on We'll be right back after we pay some bills at the politics bar
[SPEAKER_01]: Last call on a Friday night.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you everybody who's been hanging out with us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we are passionate here at the politics bar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Even when Jody is not here, she's always passionate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, she likes to laugh, which is a good thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: She will be back Monday, don't worry next week.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got some good guests coming in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, BDD will be here on Monday.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dana Steele, son.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a name you may not know some of you might know, or special if you're down in Texas.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you know where Anita will talk about that next week a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you by the way to Karen and Anita of the True Blue Politics podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: For being here this evening and helping Philly in for Jodie if you guys missed any of the show, you know what to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you have something, by the way, that we haven't spent enough time on as far as I'm concerned.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have a new part of the True Blue politics podcast that you guys are doing kind of off of your sub-stack there, Karen, which is, I'm, I, look, you guys know this better than I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: You talk about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I want to talk about some of the elections around the country, like you're in Texas there.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's, I mean, so for those of you out there that do subscribe and listen to our podcast, we've been doing it by weekly.
[SPEAKER_07]: We started it about a year prior to the 2024 election.
[SPEAKER_01]: the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the
[SPEAKER_07]: And do our, you know, a recording, we're trying to keep it like 20 to 40 minutes yesterday when particularly long, but there was a lot to talk about.
[SPEAKER_06]: It goes by really passionate.
[SPEAKER_06]: I realize it because actually, much.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then I'm posting it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I am posting it on my sub stack resistance journal, but it's on me too.
[SPEAKER_07]: Post to YouTube, true blue politics podcast.
[SPEAKER_07]: Excellent.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then on all our social media.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, well, it's it's it doesn't make it there.
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, so, but we're on YouTube, but we are on to go to YouTube and go to Substack and you'll find your guys.
[SPEAKER_07]: Substack and all the social media.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, Reds.
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_07]: You sky, Facebook.
[SPEAKER_07]: Look, we appreciate the fact that the guys are not working.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not in Twitter.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, I have to put it on Twitter.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, look, I still I we still we're still there because there are still some people for for whatever various reason.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, there are people who live in bad parts of towns, where you're like, why you live in in that place and they have their reasons, and I'm not going to shame somebody for choosing to live in a place.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not kidding, and I've actually, I actually knew somebody who actually said that he liked to live in a part of town that had a little bit more crime because it was exciting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I mean, that's what you want your life.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm always saying, I'm going on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm like, okay, dude, that's, you know, I'm like, I'll see you at the station.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to your house.
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, but that was, he was an interesting DJ, but, um,
[SPEAKER_01]: But the whole thing is that I'm glad you guys are are doing more of this.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that we're all still growing and pushing things.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Bob Cesca does his live bits now on the weekends and of course, obviously, track politics that John is doing books and his radio show in the evening.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that even though it's hard, we're still expanding.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for all of us, we may be thinking that we're going, my God, we're, you know, we're doing this like, you know, 28 hours a day and we're sick of hearing ourselves and putting out all the content we do in my room.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: When I worked in music radio as a radio DJ, one of the things that you learn, especially if you're doing top 40 or country, country music, since basically the mid 90s, is an alternative version of top 40.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of the producers were the same for years still are some of them for for your top 40 songs and your country songs people are really You know, that's why some of the stuff sounds similar.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why why some of the time these days they can take a country song literally just remove the fiddle And then play it on a pop station and they go really you go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because it's a pop song with some fiddle added.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but one of the keys about top 40 music that
[SPEAKER_01]: top 40 music is disgustingly repetitive.
[SPEAKER_01]: You as a music DJ who used to sit there, not voice track and not pre-recording the talking bits, but just sit there and playing the songs, you would go a little bit nutty because you're like, oh my god, this song again, you would come up with alternative lyrics because you're like, oh crap, I overheard this little.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anybody that said we're had a kid knows about that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is, is that for the left leaning media, for the left leaning alternative media, we have to do the same thing with the news and the information that we're getting out there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we have to go through all the processes just like the mainstream media of verifying and making sure that things are verified as much as possible.
[SPEAKER_01]: And when we talk about stuff that there's a rumor, I don't have confirmation that we let people know that we make sure that the people are informing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have to repeat it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also we have to repeat it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And did I mention that we have to repeat it and also repeat it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean that we have to repeat it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You just want to repeat it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I think a little bit of repeating it was in order.
[SPEAKER_01]: And people will be laughing.
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing is, is that people are busy.
[SPEAKER_01]: You have lives, your standard measurement for years on radio.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mentioned earlier, it's time spent listening.
[SPEAKER_01]: How long people listen?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: It used to be, your TSL was closer to 15 minutes that on average of all the people who listen to the music radio that people in general listen around 15 minutes.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it went down to seven.
[SPEAKER_01]: And depending on who you believe now, it's probably closer to about three or four minutes.
[SPEAKER_06]: You guys are probably going to have the attention span.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the thing is that just because the people who are in the audience out there don't have the attention span don't mean that we don't need to get out there and get the information out there.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's even worse, but you have to repeat it like you said.
[SPEAKER_06]: Because if you don't repeat it, they may not catch it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: 100% Anita is correct and that's that's that's one of the things that we also have to help everybody in the bar understand is if we're repeating it It's not cuz we think you're stupid.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's cuz we think maybe you're busy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you know like Scano and Darrell over here throw on peanuts at each other You guys got you do fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a great.
[SPEAKER_01]: What'd you say?
[SPEAKER_01]: He was, which is fine, guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're perfectly fine with it.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a tough time to tell a white repeating, it's the only way to get people to remember it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's literally a thing about when people learn over game.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's also taking complicated concepts and boiling them down like we did with the filibuster last fall.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you do with the filibuster, this spring with the Democrats and getting people under, because when people understand complicated stuff and they understand it at a level that they can deal with it,
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how they can start handling the politics that they have.
[SPEAKER_01]: You got to have people who are really good at this and I got to mention because I wanted to get into some of the stuff about the the individual races and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: James Telereco in Texas, he's in your backyard in need.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm he's really good as a speaker.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really good.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's really good.
[SPEAKER_06]: He is so good.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he's and I mean, nothing.
[SPEAKER_06]: He can nothing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Get some off guard.
[SPEAKER_06]: In other words, he's really good at like.
[SPEAKER_06]: off the cuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you know, answering the question off the cuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's just amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And people are Bible verses from anywhere, which obviously, you know, seminarian, but it's like having John Fuckel sang on, you know, on instant dial.
[SPEAKER_01]: You'll pink.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's great that way.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I'm, he's, and the better thing, you're there in Texas and he does he do the folks in Texas, everybody's got a different language, a different kind of way that they speak.
[SPEAKER_01]: Karen what is the the name of a water fountain in Chicago it's not a bubbler it's a water fountain but it's a bubbler just it's a bubbler just north yes it's a dream Wisconsin right exactly but that's just it is that there are localisms like that Anita for the people in Texas does Tallah week will really know how to speak Texas to the people there is he
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, absolutely, yeah, because you're a Texan, you're a Texan, so you know you know what's important to people in Texas, the people who aren't in Texas don't understand.
[SPEAKER_06]: And there's a money doesn't when they try to catch them like tire right check that.
[SPEAKER_06]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_06]: What is she there was a tick talk that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she tried to get him and she's looking everywhere for something that would just meet old.
[SPEAKER_06]: So he's always been outside or something, but just expose him for just whatever and so she the one thing she could find was this one thing that he tweeted out that Trans children of God's children.
[SPEAKER_06]: There is nothing wrong with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: that's true that's yeah that's that's what she thought she was going to bad nobody's every nobody's gonna better write that they're like okay yeah yeah yeah they're trying some of the stuff with McMaro up in Michigan because they're like well she used to live in California and like her college and then she moved here and she was missing her friends and missing the weather in California because it was winter and I'm like
[SPEAKER_01]: Are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[SPEAKER_01]: She's been there since I think what the 90s or the 2000s?
[SPEAKER_01]: So the general rule of thumb is at least in professional sports fandom.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you live in a town or you live in an area where like if if you're in Chicago you're supposed to be rooting for the bulls and the bears and the cubbies are to white socks, one of them, you know,
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you move from somewhere that doesn't Chicago, when you don't have a professional team, well then you, you know, you go there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: This has works.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you move here, you know, put attention to the WNBA, your mystics fan.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Texas obviously, you got a lot of teams there and eat us.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, depends on what part of Texas you're moving to.
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, yeah, in that same way.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a little off track.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just it's frustrating to me that people who don't understand that the localism matters so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: When you've lived in a place for a while, when you've lived there for, you know, five years, ten years or whatever, you become a local.
[SPEAKER_01]: You adopt the teams.
[SPEAKER_01]: You adopt the lingo.
[SPEAKER_01]: You adopt the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So McMarrow is as much
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I always thought she was.
[SPEAKER_06]: I just assume she was.
[SPEAKER_06]: She sounds like one to me.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because she's been there long.
[SPEAKER_01]: If she's absolutely inative.
[SPEAKER_01]: And Tala Rico is sure as hell a native of Texas.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, he's been.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's like 9th generation or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't have to be 9th generation or 6th generation.
[SPEAKER_06]: You in Texas, baby.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can say that because you're in Texas, but I'm just saying for people who've been in places when you become part of the locality, when you become part of that people know they know by like we were joking earlier this week with Carolyn and Jared who are both Jared's been here in the DC area as longer longer than I have and Carolyn's a native to this area.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not Reagan.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just something that people who are every tower.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Always serious.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was going to call it Reagan.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will never, I will never call it Willis Tower.
[SPEAKER_01]: What you're talking about Willis?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a tower.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have a Chicago.
[SPEAKER_01]: Damn, Skippy.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, that's this kind of, and I'm glad to see.
[SPEAKER_01]: We saw the poll earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Telly Rico was what?
[SPEAKER_01]: Up, eight.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was up eight over Paxton and seven over Coran.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the thing that's really impressive is how much he's over he's winning independence.
[SPEAKER_06]: He's winning independence by like 40 point.
[SPEAKER_01]: The independence are of huge.
[SPEAKER_01]: They are huge thing in every election and look, if I know we are here at the end of the show on the the radio affiliates.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I get you to stick around for a little more for a little after a course?
[SPEAKER_01]: I suppose.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for my glass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
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