[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the greatest parenting podcast.
[SPEAKER_07]: Hey guys, we just got done here at the Branson Home School Conference, the Teaching and Delagently Conference, and we are in our hotel room this week, but we are coming to you and it's so excited to share some really important, I would say these are like lessons or things themes that we have been noticing from the two conferences, things that people have been giving us feedback on.
[SPEAKER_07]: We share some really special testimonials
[SPEAKER_07]: Not being that frog in a boiling pot of water.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, also, surely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Also humility.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked a lot about how it's adults.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's important even more so now and why we need to be operating humility and willing to learn from other people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even if they're sharing some things that you already know in those dynamics.
[SPEAKER_02]: In modeling that for our children that need to not be just specialized in one direction and skill set to provide some day.
[SPEAKER_02]: They need to be learning all kinds of things to have resiliency.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot here in this episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's important.
[SPEAKER_02]: We hope you enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, sitting here in the hotel, and just reflecting on the conference we were just at and participating in, it's really in the times we're living in.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's more important than ever that adults have humility.
[SPEAKER_07]: and have that humility leads to a teachable heart and it's important because we're living in a world where we're easily influenced and we don't want to realize it.
[SPEAKER_07]: We don't want to be the frog and the boiling pot of water, so to speak.
[SPEAKER_07]: And of course, believers, we are living in a fallen world.
[SPEAKER_07]: The fallen world is the boiling pot of water.
[SPEAKER_07]: So we are actually like frogs and the boiling pot of water, so to speak, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: But we are in the world.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's something that we cannot change, but we're
[SPEAKER_07]: to be not of the world, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And so it takes humility and sharpening as iron sharpens iron and being around other people who are actually gonna challenge us to be called higher, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, call each other.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just like, getting your number called.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, hey, Isaac, come on up, it's your turn, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, but a lot of times walking in biblical community, you can feel like you're getting
[SPEAKER_02]: drag down like you're you're you're getting hang on you know what I mean depends on the culture I guess I'm where you're you're community and so forth, but I think a big problem is just the the poll of the culture and the access that are fingertips to everything and the draw towards normalcy mediocrity nominal Christianity
[SPEAKER_02]: And what can happen is we can start believing that we're strong Christians, and maybe you are maybe your faith is strong, but does your life look like what the Bible is talking about?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are we examples of that to our children?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's so important that we have humility, that we're introspective, including us, and to really look at, okay, hey, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are is the culture infiltrating our family?
[SPEAKER_02]: Where is an infiltrating our norms?
[SPEAKER_02]: Where is it influencing decisions?
[SPEAKER_02]: And these kinds of things and really putting that at bay and making sure we're so reminded about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's interesting, you know, being at the conference, you meet a lot of people, I mean, it's across the board.
[SPEAKER_07]: You've got at homeschool conference, you have seasoned long vet, what I would call veteran homeschoolers.
[SPEAKER_07]: Or some even the pioneers, there were some awesome pioneers of the homeschooling movement that were there working at booths.
[SPEAKER_07]: selling curriculums and different things and having different conversations with them and then also there's the new to the idea of homeschooling, right, where they're just agitated by the things that they are seen in the world.
[SPEAKER_07]: They want to raise their kids differently.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're on fire.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're zealous.
[SPEAKER_07]: And they're awesome.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then there's a people who are like,
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, kind of get my feet wet, trying to see what this homeschool thing is all about, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And so what?
[SPEAKER_02]: There's normal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that was totally us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was totally us, 22, 23 years ago.
[SPEAKER_07]: We're about to start at 23rd year homeschooling.
[SPEAKER_07]: For those of you who are new to the podcast, Isaac and I have been married for 26 and a half years.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we have nine kids ranging in ages for almost five up to 25, almost 26.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we just got blessed again because our fifth grandchild was born last week, which is super exciting, and we have our sixth due in August.
[SPEAKER_07]: So there's like definitely we're aware of like, and thinking about what is this world that our four-year-old's gonna launch into?
[SPEAKER_07]: Compared to what we were launching our oldest into just a few years ago, it's gonna be completely different, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And you talked a little bit about that at the conference regarding AI and you're likely gonna be sharing that information in a different way with our listeners.
[SPEAKER_07]: So be looking for that super powerful.
[SPEAKER_07]: We had so many people come into the booth saying that that talk was just right on super transformational was convicting to them because they had it.
[SPEAKER_07]: different perspective and how to react to or how to not engage with AI, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And so I think that that's actually one of the most poignant topics for today, in a sense.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, just in today's day and age, because that's what's AI is one of the tools that is going to create so much technological change that will change our society.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's why in the beginning I was mentioned humility, because I'm finding myself in a
[SPEAKER_02]: I've gone through a lot of life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been in the business world.
[SPEAKER_02]: I understand a lot of different things But the more I get older the more I realize I don't there's a lot more I need to learn in addition to that That the world is changing so fast so in the old days Yeah, perhaps it was more like the parents really had the most knowledge and they were teaching their children And these days that should be that way in a biblical way, but if it's not of you can learn that together too, which is great
[SPEAKER_02]: But there's so much changing and it's changing so fast that you're gonna the only way to do it Actually if you already have some middle schoolers or older kids is to be learning some of this with them
[SPEAKER_02]: and that takes humility to not always have the answer and it also takes humility to be learning and spending time and fasting reading books again, investing in watching courses, actually purchasing, investing in courses, to be on a journey of learning how to use new tools to run your business better, to be solvent financially into the future, providing all of these things are really important.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's interesting too because as a teacher, I mean, you're a pastor, I've been a homeschooled teacher in a sense for many, many years and teaching Bible studies and, you know, writing and speaking and different things, here's one of the things that when you teach anyone, anyone doesn't matter if it's your children, you are literally training yourself in being a teacher.
[SPEAKER_07]: And when you teach something, there is a temptation.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let me tell you the temptation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Thanks again, that you would think that you know it all, or that you've got it figured out, or that your experience proved it, it got you the experience or the outcome that you wanted, regardless of how you got there, you got the outcome that you wanted, so that's good enough.
[SPEAKER_07]: right?
[SPEAKER_07]: But I just want to challenge you for a second that actually the road that we're on, the journey of getting to the outcome, getting to the fruit is actually going to change the fruit in the end and it is actually important and it requires a teachable heart and wanting to be around people who have maybe figured out some things that you haven't figured out.
[SPEAKER_07]: being humble enough, always humble enough to be learning and hearing other people's stories, but you know what's interesting, though, is that a lot of times people who get used to teaching, or speaking, or different things, they don't, they're not good at listening.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're not good at taking feedback.
[SPEAKER_07]: They're not, they just talk the whole line, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's
[SPEAKER_07]: It's an interesting concept because I know that for myself, I have had to think about this specific challenge and temptation myself in my relationships with other people like over the years.
[SPEAKER_07]: I've even talked about this at other homeschool conferences that how you parent, you're literally training yourself.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, when our kids are little, you're training yourself in being that teacher, that authority, and having that perspective of uni, you're the student, you're the disciple, you're listening to me, and that trains a way of being.
[SPEAKER_07]: It exercises a muscle, and it's a good thing, however, when your kids get to a certain age, it needs to shift to where you are not, you are not the only authority in their life, and it needs to shift to be more of a mentor,
[SPEAKER_07]: kind of authority in their life, which is a different kind of relationship.
[SPEAKER_07]: You have to build, rebuild, build a different kind of relationship with your kids.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then when they're young adults, like we have, it's even more so because they're getting married, there's the leaving and cleaving for the women they are being submissive to their husbands, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And so your authority, like they don't have to obey you.
[SPEAKER_02]: yeah i think one of the challenges uh... that was good word i think one of the challenges and adults learning from adults though uh... is that sometimes we hear things we already know when somebody's teaching us something and then it shuts us down from hearing the part of what they're talking about that we don't know
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I've struggled with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you've struggled with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think everybody struggles with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think we're in an age where, you know, especially, okay, I heard that we're looking for the nuggets.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then when you look for the nuggets, you're much better listener.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're showing humility and your building relationships.
[SPEAKER_02]: But when you're not looking for the nuggets and you shut down, when you're just hearing something you already know, then you might be missing out And you might be missing out in cultivating a stronger relationship with others as well And it's going to be really hard for you to invest in things Because we all know aspects of things I mean, we're in a knowledge world now Is it at a figure tips, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but when we're really good learner, we're looking for answers we don't know, the parts of things that we don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: When you read a book, maybe 30% of it you know, but what about the 70% you didn't know, and are you paying attention to that?
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's really important.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, it's interesting because when we're meeting with all these different people like what I sense at the conferences There's why we're talking about this is there is so much of a voracious hungry appetite for learning And it was just awesome to be in that kind of an environment because it seemed like everybody was like eager to learn, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: and it was it was awesome because there were times where people would come and they would share the share part of their story with us at the table right and they'd be like one in advice and I'm like I don't know the answer but I can pray for you and they're like you know hoping for this answer they're like teachable heart and sometimes I had you know some suggestions or maybe some wisdom that got hit taught me but
[SPEAKER_07]: When I don't know something, I'm just like, you know what, I will pray for you for that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I will keep my ears open, let's say in contact, if I find someone who has an expertise in that, I would love to send you their way, you know.
[SPEAKER_07]: But that, that right there of like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_07]: Being able to say, I don't know, is a form of humility in a sense, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And we should all have that.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know that I feel like what you just said when you said the older you get the more you realize you need to learn on different things, I think it's true for me in regards to everything also.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so like for us, when we're reading the Bible, it's so, it's alive and active and you can have read something 20 times.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can have read something 100 times and then all of a sudden, you're walking through something in your life.
[SPEAKER_07]: and God highlights that same scripture, but in a totally different way to you and it applies perfectly to what you're walking through.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that, this is the thing, is if you just had pride in you, or like, oh no, I have first Corinthians memorized.
[SPEAKER_07]: And you didn't read it.
[SPEAKER_07]: You are literally shutting off the Holy Spirit from being able to teach you in that moment.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you have that,
[SPEAKER_07]: unteachable heart that prideful heart of I already know I've already had this many kids I already know I've been homeschooling 10 years I already know like I already know I've been in the business world I already know I already wrote a bunch of books like that I already know
[SPEAKER_07]: That is just pride, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And so it's just interesting.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have a few verses that I wanted to hear.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, this one, I mean, this is so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Romans 12 too, you guys know what this is probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: But let's read it and think about it in a fresh way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind that by testing, you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so good.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's God's will, it's not our will.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like how many times do we set out to do something?
[SPEAKER_07]: And what we do, what we choose to do is actually influenced by our fear of the what if.
[SPEAKER_07]: Even if there isn't any proof that that thing that could happen is gonna happen.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we plan and we control and we make all of these plans but it's actually not because you're following the Lord's will it's because you're fearing
[SPEAKER_07]: Consequences, your feeling of fear and potential circumstances that could maybe possibly happen, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's like that is part of being a part of a culture because the culture also has a will for you.
[SPEAKER_07]: The world has a will for you.
[SPEAKER_07]: The enemy has a will for you, but God has a will for you.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so surrounding yourself around people who are like, you know what?
[SPEAKER_07]: I just want God's will for your life.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not my will, not to justify what I've done in my life, but because I won't God's best for you, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like being around those kinds of people who are praying for God's best for you, who are praying for you to grow spiritually in your walk with God through whatever it is you're going through.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like we need to be looking for those kinds of people who are willing to speak, truth and love and challenge you to grow in spiritual maturity and to go to places you've never gone before.
[SPEAKER_07]: To learn things you've never learned before, because then you have a new testimony
[SPEAKER_07]: glorifying God that you get to share with other people to challenge them to also grow and they're walk with God, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I want to read to you guys from Ephesians chapter two because this concept of being in the culture and being in a fallen world, being in a society that is filled with so much spiritual confusion, trying to build biblical community, which was a lot of what we were talking about the last two weeks, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like this concept of
[SPEAKER_07]: And being willing to stand firm like your hat says, stand firm in the faith.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think in our messages that it was, it was, there was, it was a little piece of that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Biblical community was like building that up.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was just kept coming up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a small point.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was little pieces in our talks, but there was not one talk about that.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, and we probably could have, because when I went and did the TTD 365 on Saturday, it was a Q&A time, and- That's the most interesting thing people were going to think to it.
[SPEAKER_07]: What that someone was just saying is, I was supposed to just share briefly about the ministry, what we have, and then do Q&A, and everybody could ask me questions.
[SPEAKER_07]: But you know, the majority of the questions were actually about church, and they wanted to know how we do church, and, oh, you're in a tent.
[SPEAKER_07]: What, tell me about that?
[SPEAKER_07]: Wait, you're age-integrated?
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't know, you know.
[SPEAKER_07]: What does that mean?
[SPEAKER_07]: And you do probably look every week.
[SPEAKER_07]: And just this concept of like the apostles teaching, the breaking of bread, prayer, and the fellowship, and non-performancey worship.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like this, and fellowship, people wanting to spend time together and knowing each other's names.
[SPEAKER_07]: And
[SPEAKER_07]: It was obvious to me that that was something that people were craving, even pastors' wives that were sitting there going, that was what we were hoping to be building, or that was what we were hoping our church would be right, and then you get overtaken by...
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, my church did this.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that church is doing that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And they're growing to these numbers.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so we should be doing that because that's what they do.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's what sets them apart.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that's why they're growing, growing, growing, growing.
[SPEAKER_07]: Now, I get that a church should, there should be growth, there should be disciple making, but that doesn't mean that it's necessarily an outcome of number of converts, although there should be that, disciples is different than converts, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And so, yes, we need to be evangelistic and sharing the good news with people who do not believe.
[SPEAKER_07]: That is the job of Christians.
[SPEAKER_07]: But there's also this aspect of like disciple making and Jesus modeled it best for us as he was disciple in the disciples, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And it was being in biblical community with them on a regular basis and teaching them how to live this Christian life, how to be like him, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think actually, the way I read the Bible is they were going out and showing the gospel and breaking bread with people and, and, and, you know, maybe they're physical beings.
[SPEAKER_02]: Meaning the physical needs and they come to know the Lord, they would be saved, and then they would invite them to church, and that church they were literally being biblical about the Scriptures and, you know, not, you know, cutting corners and digging into scripture and, you know, not watering things down and just, you know, preaching the Word.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, that's, I think what the church needs to be, a lot of them do, the lot of them don't, depends on what church it is, I suppose, but, you know, it's really important that we're, you know, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're, we're making disciples in our sermons, right, we're strengthening the strong.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we need to have an aspect.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to share the gospel in our messages to your church and so forth.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it's supposed to be neat.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a strengthening and I believe in living rooms is where people come to the Lord.
[SPEAKER_02]: Other people's living rooms.
[SPEAKER_07]: hospitality.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's awesome.
[SPEAKER_07]: That was another talk that that topic that I feel like was a partial theme in certain things because hospitality is a way of walking a biblical community with each other.
[SPEAKER_07]: But Ephesians 2 is a really powerful scripture that I think really hits home for this like being in the world but being not of the world.
[SPEAKER_07]: It says, and you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked.
[SPEAKER_07]: Okay, so that's us being fallen, not knowing the Lord, walking in the world.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is the fallen world.
[SPEAKER_07]: you were dead in the trespasses and sins in which you once walked.
[SPEAKER_07]: Following the course of this world, there is a course.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is telling us that there is a course, and that we once followed the course of this world.
[SPEAKER_07]: I just want to stop there for a second because being the frog and the boiling pot of water, we are not always aware of the courses that we're following.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so there are many ways that God wants to refine us.
[SPEAKER_07]: Actually, he wants to refine us in everything, in every relationship,
[SPEAKER_07]: trial and every circumstance and everything that we do, whether it's grocery shopping, having a baby, homeschooling kids, parenting, car rides, I mean literally when you sit, when you walk, when you sit, when you stand, that's due to our enemy sex, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: But let's just continue, it says, you once walked this way, following the course of this world, following the prince of the power of the air, that's a devil.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's Satan, actually, talks about it in Ephesians 6, too.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it continues, it says, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience.
[SPEAKER_07]: So there is a spirit working in the sons of disobedience in our world.
[SPEAKER_07]: And we need to not follow them.
[SPEAKER_07]: We need to be careful who we are following.
[SPEAKER_07]: We need to look at the fruit in their life.
[SPEAKER_07]: And when they say things that are worldly, they just go along to get along, that are like, I don't want to grow in the Lord.
[SPEAKER_07]: I just want to get it done.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like that's a yellow flag or red flag.
[SPEAKER_07]: in my mind.
[SPEAKER_07]: Among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the flesh and the mind, and we're by nature children of wrath like the rest of mankind, verse 4.
[SPEAKER_07]: But God, being rich in mercy because of the great love with which He loved us.
[SPEAKER_07]: Even when we were dead in our trespasses made us alive together with Christ by grace you have been saved.
[SPEAKER_07]: and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus.
[SPEAKER_07]: So that in the coming ages, he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace and kindness towards us in Christ Jesus.
[SPEAKER_07]: and then it says this, for by grace you have been saved through faith, and this is not of your own doing.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is the gift of God, not a result of works so that no one may boast for we are his workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.
[SPEAKER_07]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a reminder that even when we are choosing to not walk,
[SPEAKER_07]: In the course of the world, we are choosing to be obedient to God, but not for our boasting.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's to glorify Him.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's to learn to grow.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I just, I shudder to think how many of us, like the older we get, if we don't have a heart attitude of humility and wanting to grow.
[SPEAKER_07]: because maybe we have an experience and it's just it's worked out for us and we're just like that it gives me peace to do things this way.
[SPEAKER_07]: But maybe God doesn't want that for you.
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe God wants to stretch you and grow you and he's asking you to trust him in bigger ways than you've ever trusted him before because he wants to show himself more mighty in your life than ever before.
[SPEAKER_02]: It reminds me of something I shared at the men's breakfast this time, I'm Branson.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we never give this same talk twice.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did prepare the same exact titled messages.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have the same story.
[SPEAKER_02]: For both conferences and none of the speeches were the same.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's because the Holy Spirit gets a hold of you and you go in different directions.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the way it's always kind of been for speaking.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know for you too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was it encourages us.
[SPEAKER_02]: And but one of the things in the men's breakfast that I shared is the importance of having three sources of revenue in these unprecedented times to provide for your family.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I love that challenge of the men thinking about it, men came to the booth.
[SPEAKER_02]: They bought the courageous parenting book after that, a lot of them, and I was so impressed because they're, they're taking initiative and they're buying a book and they're saying, hey, let's read this together to their wife.
[SPEAKER_02]: So cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, to really challenge them, three sources of income, and what does that look for somebody?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or reorientating our life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Another thing I mentioned to them to challenge them is,
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, maybe you need to reorientate your life to where you have more time freedom to be able to have quantity time, not just quality time with your children.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not about not working hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's about having control of being at the important things and being around for you discipling your kids and things like that when it's opportune to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's important.
[SPEAKER_02]: I work really hard, but I love the freedom I have to decide when I work and to decide what my schedule is and those kinds of things because it enables me to on ongoing basis to cycle my children.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that's not the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's harder for some men and really rigorous schedules and things like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, how could you reorientate your life?
[SPEAKER_02]: And so this is the humility that I'm talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we need humility to think about going from one source of income to two sources and then to three sources.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need humility to think about, well, what would that look like to completely reorientate my life?
[SPEAKER_02]: To not be controlled about where I live, if it's not opportune for your legacy, to change how you're providing, to be able to live where it is better for your legacy.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are things we've thought of and done and it's been amazing and so I was encouraging them to do that and kind of reminded me what you're talking about.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's interesting when we were giving the talks I'm just going to give one more little brief highlight.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was so incredibly overwhelmed in a good way by the turnout of women for the Titus II Legacy Strengthening the Mother Daughter Bond Talk here in Branson.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was off the hook.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like the room was totally packed.
[SPEAKER_07]: Every seat was filled.
[SPEAKER_07]: There were people down the sides standing in the back.
[SPEAKER_07]: People out in the hall.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, you went out in the hall and took a picture.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think you posted it on Instagram.
[SPEAKER_07]: There was at least 20 women outside the room.
[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't count to 25 that left because it couldn't hear you because it was too far outside the room.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's insane, that makes me feel sad.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I think that we'll probably have to do a podcast episode where I'm able to share more of that topic.
[SPEAKER_07]: But Titus II has been a passion of mine for many, many, many years.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I would say 20 years or more.
[SPEAKER_07]: And one of the things that I have seen over the years is this lack of humility in people wanting to learn from their built-in Titus IIs.
[SPEAKER_07]: And what I mean by built-in Titus IIs is the moms and the gramas and the great gramas and the family.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it takes humility to ask and to learn from people who have gone before you and not have an I already know it attitude, but having respectful attitude in that.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I would say it's not just the moms, the grandma's and the great grandma's and your family, it's the mother-in-law's and your family, it's the grandmother-in-law's and your family, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And when you have a teachable heart attitude, your mind is going to explode with so much good knowledge.
[SPEAKER_07]: And God is gonna bless that because it's his design for his family.
[SPEAKER_07]: And of course, the family is representation of the family of God.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is the training ground.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so if you don't have a teachable heart attitude here, then of course there's gonna be problems with having a teachable heart attitude elsewhere.
[SPEAKER_07]: One of the things that's interesting that I have found over the years is that older women struggle with feeling like they have nothing of value that the younger generation would want to hear.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that just breaks my heart because that's not God's will.
[SPEAKER_07]: One of the biggest culprits for that, I believe this is just what I have observed and you may disagree, is that we live in a YouTube Google it culture.
[SPEAKER_07]: to where people are just busy and they want everything fast at their fingertips, which is actually a reflection of selfishness, not productivity.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's literally a entitled I want it now on my time.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's convenient for me now, so instead of calling grandma and connecting with her,
[SPEAKER_07]: and then making a time to go over to her house and learn how to can, I'm just gonna Google how to can.
[SPEAKER_07]: But what happens from that, what fruit actually comes from that is that you may have gotten what you wanted, meaning you learned how to can, and that's great.
[SPEAKER_07]: Good for you.
[SPEAKER_07]: But you know what is lacking is the better fruit of the deeper relationship that you have with great grandma and how she feels like she still is needed and has a purpose and is actually fulfilling the commandment and the mandate that God gave her to teach the younger women how to love their husbands and children and be busy in the home.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it all starts with the younger women, actually, because what older women's going to go, I'm going to mentor you.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I should help you.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not the right way to push to go.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's not going to happen.
[SPEAKER_07]: A younger woman needs to go to the older, have a teachable heart and ask questions.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'll tell you something when young people, they are there's an aspect of dishonoring or disrespect when they don't have an attitude of like,
[SPEAKER_07]: You've been through a lot in your life, I get that I can look this up online, but you probably have some shortcuts, some hacks, and some wisdom from hindsight of having done this so many times that I'm willing to ask you because I want help.
[SPEAKER_07]: and what's cool about when you ask for help is that your relationship grows closer.
[SPEAKER_07]: I know that my relationship with my daughters and my daughter-in-law grows so much closer when they ask me questions and I will not push
[SPEAKER_07]: my ideas, what I've done on my kids, like I've been very purposeful with my own daughters to try to help them to know how to cook and know how to raise children in different things like that.
[SPEAKER_07]: But here's the deal.
[SPEAKER_07]: If they didn't have a teachable heart, that's not on mama.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_07]: That is something personal that's on them.
[SPEAKER_07]: And the same goes for like daughter-in-law relationships.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like I would say it's the mother-in-law's responsibility to reach out and to engage and try to build a relationship with the new daughter-in-love.
[SPEAKER_07]: And this of course applies to men and sons and sons, you know what I'm saying and their son-in-loves.
[SPEAKER_07]: But there's this element of like, when they come to you and they reciprocate with respectful questions, your relationship grows so...
[SPEAKER_07]: much because you're actually being called up to do what you are commanded by God to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, this is going to be really hard in a world where we can just voice things and technology tells us exactly what we want to hear and tells us all the information instantly.
[SPEAKER_02]: We want it's going to be increasingly challenging.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be increasingly sad actually for people that just rely on technology to get all answers and stop really connecting, getting wisdom from each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's a judgment that can be a whole conversation, but I want to switch it for a second because one thing I noticed from the conference that was very telling to me is there's a lot of broken hearts in a way I mean there must be I want to ask you about it because I noticed a lot of tears and from your talks and amongst women and I noticed a lot of people coming to our table
[SPEAKER_02]: And I wasn't part of the conversations, and you don't need to show specific conversations, but just a lot of women and tears, and you praying over them, and over and over and over, I mean, it wasn't just a cup, it was a consistent, constant thing, and especially after you gave some messages to women.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, is there any trend line that you're seeing amongst women that it's causing sadness or what's going on?
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, there's a few things.
[SPEAKER_07]: I would say after our last talk, that's the most recent experience that's on the top of my mind.
[SPEAKER_07]: After we did our courageous parenting at the end of the conference on in Branson, and I experienced this also in Pigeon Forge.
[SPEAKER_07]: A lot of the people who were coming and who were shedding tears, it was tears of thankfulness to God and tears of joy because they had felt so alone in this world, in this culture, in the communities that they're in feeling like they were the only one that was, for example, saying, no, I'm not going to celebrate Satan's holiday.
[SPEAKER_07]: Satan can't have October 31st.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's the lords day and like for us to be bold enough to even and and that actually was something that we only It just came off of our tongue because our talks are so different came off our tongue in Branson, but not in Pigeon forge But those were things that like people were like I can't believe how bold that was like whoa, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Or when we said, you know, we won't do sleepovers, which we I mean we have blog posts on this that went viral over 17 years ago because we were the
[SPEAKER_07]: extreme ones but now with pedophilia and porn on the internet and all the problems that there are it's like more people have come into alignment with us whereas before before anyone else was talking about that we were like thrown ourselves under the bus and saying hey think twice
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and so it's interesting because those, just even, I didn't even go into our wise.
[SPEAKER_07]: I literally was just bringing them up as examples of like we made some hard decisions based upon the reality in the world that we are living in.
[SPEAKER_07]: We had to take the roast into glasses off and go, this is the world we live in.
[SPEAKER_07]: So therefore we are going to make this decision.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it can't be based on fear, otherwise you're going to isolate.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like what are ways that we can do this, but also not isolate, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: You can still say notice sleepovers, but still have fellowship with people, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_07]: And so, whereas a lot of people are so scared of the real world that they don't ever have fellowship with people.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And so that would be the ditch on the other side.
[SPEAKER_07]: So you have two extreme ditches and it's like finding the biblical road.
[SPEAKER_07]: So a lot of people were coming and they were just in tears of joy going, I cannot believe that you're saying this kind of stuff on a podcast and that there's over 8 million people who or over 8 million downloads, that means so many people around the world actually agree with us.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that just like shocked them and made them overwhelmed with thankfulness because they felt so alone.
[SPEAKER_07]: So that was one aspect of it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I would say that the women who were coming after the cultivating a teachable heart talk and after the Titus to strengthen any of the mother daughter bond talk.
[SPEAKER_07]: those were all across the board as far as like, people just realizing that they needed to repent and be, they were humbled by listening to my testimony, for example, or shock that I would even be so open about how I struggled with pride or how God disciplined me.
[SPEAKER_07]: And what God was teaching me and how I had to wrestle with what I actually believed in is my identity actually really strong in Christ because if it is then I shouldn't have a problem telling people that I apologize and saying I'm sorry I failed you or even hearing people say you're hurting me.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so like that spoke to everybody in a different way, whether it was their relationship with their daughter, the relationship with their own mother, their grandmother, their mother-in-law, like there were so many stories of all those different kinds of relationships someone even came up and said, it's me and my sister, actually.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, and it was like this opportunity to say listen only the Holy Spirit can change other people's hearts But God is working on you right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: Let me pray for you.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it was powerful and I would just Shutter to think like I wish that there was an opportunity for you to share a similar message Because I know you could have rocked it to encourage the men and their relationships with their dads and their sons and their brothers because it's a needed message regardless of your gender
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, there's like this budding heads that happens in relationships, and we see that in Luke 12 53, which I just want to read to you for a second, because it really, it was one of the verses that I started out the, the whole study with them on, and I haven't done this in pigeon forage.
[SPEAKER_07]: So I just want to share it with you.
[SPEAKER_07]: It says, I came to cast fire on the earth.
[SPEAKER_07]: This is verse 49 and chapter 12 of Luke.
[SPEAKER_07]: And what that it were already kindled.
[SPEAKER_07]: I have a baptism to be baptized with and how great my distress until it is accomplished.
[SPEAKER_07]: Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth?
[SPEAKER_07]: No, I tell you, but rather division.
[SPEAKER_07]: Far from now on in one house there will be five divided against three and three or it says five divided three against two and two against three.
[SPEAKER_07]: they will be divided father against son and son against father mother against daughter and daughter against mother mother and law against daughter and law and daughter and law against mother and law you know it's interesting about this is there's actually four different relationships and the one relationship that's not mentioned here is father and law and son and law and son and law and father and law just interesting
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't have a theological, like, big woohoo moment with that.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's a question I'm going to ask Jesus when I get to heaven.
[SPEAKER_07]: But this proves that the worldly way is that houses will be divided.
[SPEAKER_07]: And that is the fruit that comes from living out a culturally,
[SPEAKER_07]: um, compatible, fallen world way.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's what happens.
[SPEAKER_07]: But because of the grace of God in our lives, Christians don't have to have this kind of division when both sons and daughters and mothers and fathers are saved and they understand the ministry of reconciliation when they understand grace and they understand forgiveness because someone can understand grace but do they know and practice forgiveness.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because the reality is, is everybody fails, everybody.
[SPEAKER_07]: I have failed.
[SPEAKER_07]: Isaac before he has failed me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, and when I say fail, I mean like, we've sinned against each other.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like sin happens.
[SPEAKER_07]: We wrestle against our fleshly desires.
[SPEAKER_07]: We wrestle against being right.
[SPEAKER_07]: We wrestle against not wanting to admit we're wrong.
[SPEAKER_07]: Because those are two different things, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: We wrestle against our like, oh, I'm tired.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to talk right now or whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then we fail each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to bring out shift gears one more time and William with this is we're in a day and age where anybody can put information out, they can call themselves teachers, they can build a platform, in fact there's platforms being built by people that aren't real people and everybody thinks they're people and actually they're randomized some guy running AI, you know, creating things.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean you're going to see more and more of that too.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now that we're in a world where it's hard to know what's real, and anybody can call themselves a teacher and put information out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, anybody can actually look like they're wise too, because they can just have AI write everything and put it out there and really create pithy statements and memes.
[SPEAKER_07]: They can even still contact us.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's still content.
[SPEAKER_02]: They can say create a podcast script and put this out.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so in this age,
[SPEAKER_02]: what is the people listening that do have a desire to be teachers or our teachers and then the people that are trying to decipher like who to learn from?
[SPEAKER_02]: What are your thoughts about that?
[SPEAKER_07]: I think that you need to judge the fruit.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it's hard to judge your, judge fruit when you're just listening to little sound bites and little things and you don't see like family life, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, and I think that that's why it's so important to learn first and foremost from in real life people.
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm just going to be honest.
[SPEAKER_07]: I said this in my talks like nothing is better than an in real life mentor.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's why God.
[SPEAKER_07]: created built in mothers and daughters and fathers and sons and because you do know their heart behind it.
[SPEAKER_07]: You actually know their heart behind it because somebody can say all the right things.
[SPEAKER_07]: They can even bring in Bible verses but are they actually a person who has a teachable heart?
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, there are things that you can ask them.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can ask them questions about their life and you can hear if they have a teachable heart or not or if they are prideful.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like you can sense that in people.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I would say that the gift of spiritual discernment is something that everyone should be praying and asking God to give them, because we need to be exercising that every single day before anything else.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I would say within married couples as well, like if you aren't sure about something, research the person, I don't know how many times I have come across like a social media profile of somebody in a mic.
[SPEAKER_07]: Gosh, she's so cute.
[SPEAKER_07]: She has such cute little family and because someone's reached out to me and said, oh, do you follow this person?
[SPEAKER_07]: And I'll go and look at him and I'm like, oh, they're following me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Maybe I should fall in back and I'll look and be like, oh, they have 300,000 followers.
[SPEAKER_07]: Wow, and then I'll just Google him and I'm like, oh, they're Mormon.
[SPEAKER_07]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_07]: I wonder how many Christians are unknowingly following them because they're calling themselves Christian when they're actually all the S. And so it's just go read Galatians 1-8 and you'll know why I'm a little bit like, whoa, about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think we're in a world where, you know, there's a thought process of,
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, not being careful about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's really important.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to model that carefulness because we need to teach it to our children and if we're not living it out, we're not going to be having a conviction about it to teach our children and in the future it's going to be even harder.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... when they are making their own decisions as young mom is young dad what to listen to and it everybody can get tricked in their mind i mean don't think pink elephant i just forced you to think about a pink elephant image in your mind i literally set of two words and put an image in your mind so don't be having been prideful that you can't be influenced and and controlled it and i got that from a book i'll give credit it was a marketing book from a long time ago but
[SPEAKER_02]: that it's like we are impressionable and to think otherwise is pride.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so while somebody might be saying something wise if they aren't living out, they're not fruit in their lives, there's going to be woven in wrong thinking, there's only woven in wrong theology, there's going to be woven in the bad stuff and
[SPEAKER_02]: You might think you can discern what's the right and the wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's tough.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you should be really vetting out and looking for people who have fruit in their lives.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the Bible says is how do we know where the fruit is.
[SPEAKER_07]: And are they calling you up to growing?
[SPEAKER_07]: because that's really what it is.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, aren't we supposed to be as Christians on this journal journey where we are constantly growing?
[SPEAKER_07]: We never arrive.
[SPEAKER_07]: We should always be saturating ourselves in the word, becoming more and more familiar with it, asking God to make it real and alive in our life today.
[SPEAKER_07]: There is
[SPEAKER_07]: A lack of that in certain areas because people compartmentalize Jesus to certain things and then they take him out of other things and that was honestly part of why I wrote redeeming childbirth 14 years ago and we sold a ton of those at the conference.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean, we had redeeming childbirth, we had the growth and study guide tons of moms that were having more babies and like that was another aspect of the crime, honestly.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like, when people would come to the table and they were so excited to get courageous parenting, the new book, which you guys are going to launch on June 2nd, and they would say I'm so excited about this because that book changed my life, and then they would just break down in tears, and they would have story after story.
[SPEAKER_07]: I was getting, I got stopped by women in the hallway, walking from a talk to somewhere else going,
[SPEAKER_07]: I read redeeming childbirth after I lost a baby and look at the two miracles afterwards.
[SPEAKER_07]: It helped me to heal, to saturate my mind and scripture and to not think about myself, but to think about what God is doing and surrender to the refiner's fire.
[SPEAKER_07]: And it was like, she had her own personal story and she just had to tell me about it.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I like those kinds of tearing up moments, we were both crying, both crying because
[SPEAKER_07]: other women's stories because there's 21 testimonies in reading me childbirth and they're all so different of the things that God either he crucified idols in our life if we're making an idol out of epidurals or making an idol out of natural birth.
[SPEAKER_07]: I mean like we have to be careful people because that is the true gospel message is do not make any idol out of anything and do not puff your self up with what you do or don't do.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right?
[SPEAKER_07]: But at the same time, it's also Lord, what is your will?
[SPEAKER_07]: And do I believe you made me to do this?
[SPEAKER_07]: Do I believe that you created my body to do this?
[SPEAKER_07]: And birth is not an emergency, but sometimes, sometimes, emergencies happen in birth.
[SPEAKER_07]: And if it does, I will still praise you.
[SPEAKER_07]: And if it does, I'm going to see you work miracles in my life, and I'm going to be open to be an missionary with the people that you bring into my room.
[SPEAKER_07]: and like if we're not thinking about ourselves and we're thinking about Jesus and his will for us every day knowing that we are called to be a light it does not mean that it's not part of the birthing process and does not mean that we get to go on and compartmentalize Jesus outside that belongs in church or that belongs in my home and church only but not in the hospital, not in this, not in that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like that to me is like a really big thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so for women to be coming to the table and sharing about their testimony after testimony, that makes me cry because I look at who they are as a mom and they're like this shaped me.
[SPEAKER_07]: This shaped me in selflessness.
[SPEAKER_07]: This shaped me in surrendering my will.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like praise Jesus.
[SPEAKER_07]: That is calling somebody up to learning about God and growing more, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_07]: if you have practiced surrendering all to Jesus, and then you surrender all, and then you surrender all again.
[SPEAKER_07]: Your work and that muscle over and over again, and then when it's harder to surrender all and the big trials that you meet, because we will meet trials of various kinds.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's easier to, when you get squeezed, Jesus and joy comes out, praising Him comes out, because you've been practicing practicing, exercising it over and over and over and over again, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: But when we choose to go, oh no, I did it this way, this time I'm gonna grow it.
[SPEAKER_07]: Like we are literally robbing ourselves of growth that God has for us.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, really big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we were going to finish on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: One more thing I got to say is, I'm seeing men rising up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I'm so encouraged.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I see it happening in our church.
[SPEAKER_02]: Rude Bible church.
[SPEAKER_02]: So many godly men rising up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So many men that have even never taught the Bible to their families.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now teaching the Bible to their families.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, interested in coming together as men.
[SPEAKER_02]: interested in learning the Bible, interested in biblical truth, excited about that, taking their families to church and having all the kids sit with them, I mean we're seeing something incredible happen there and then I come to these two conferences and I reflect on this compared to maybe 15 years ago going to home school conference, a different one.
[SPEAKER_02]: and I'm seeing a larger number of intentional men serious about leading their families and it's not a foreign concept and that back in the day it seemed like it was more of a foreign concept it today men are rising up and I'm so encouraged by that met so many of the amazing guys at the booth in the men's breakfast and some of the talks and so forth
[SPEAKER_02]: And just really encouraged by that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lot of good news.
[SPEAKER_02]: God is on the move families are strengthening all across the land and was so encouraged by that.
[SPEAKER_02]: and we need to encourage each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to run the race strong with each other because even now you're becoming stronger.
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, you have to be running the race with other biblically-minded families that spur each other on.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we're also prepared.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was telling the guys this, you gotta be prepared part of preparation.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not just how you, if something bad happens in the world and how you're gonna get water and how you're gonna electrify things, it's like who are you already locking arms with?
[SPEAKER_02]: that you can help each other and be in community with each other because you're already are in a deeper way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you've got to be doing those things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, there's a lot we could talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had such a joy being in the conferences, whether you were there or not, we hope this is helpful.
[SPEAKER_02]: The book launches June 2nd as Angie mentioned where do you have that?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think 300 people.
[SPEAKER_02]: about the, of asked to be on the launch team, I'm gonna be emailing them out in the next few days, and then we're gonna be really getting some things going.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're giving $300 and almost $300 and free courses away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Our homeschooling blueprint, our biblical friendship course for women that stretches if used both of those.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or actually, the biblical friendship one, about thousands that've gone through the homeschool blueprint course.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, these are really amazing courses.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we're gonna give those completely away for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: All you have to do is on June 2nd by the book,
[SPEAKER_02]: give a review and be willing to share the book and sign up.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I know who you are.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I know you're going to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I know who to give the courses to.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're also going to do some free Q&As and things like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So all you have to do is go to becragist ministry.org for slash book.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually going to also put it in the menu so it's easy just to click.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you'll see it there.
[SPEAKER_02]: We hope you join us because we believe this book.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're already getting testimonials back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just so people have got it for the first time just a week ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're already getting testimonials back.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hundreds of books are already in people's hands from these two conferences.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're so thrilled, they bought it for $20 and they're loving it.
[SPEAKER_07]: And so this really could be really, really, really successful.
[SPEAKER_02]: This really could be waking up families in the tensional strong families, helping them become more recalibrated in alignment on the right things for impressive times.
[SPEAKER_02]: To implement together as a stronger team.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's marriage challenges marriage questions in the book lots of things And just better talking about we know I've time So anyways go get that and share this episode give us a five-star review where we listen and we so appreciate being part of the movement to impact 10 million legacies around the world