[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Homemaker Sheep Podcast where we are rescuing the art of homemaking from the daily grind red lips, no denim jumpers, spring here, finally in Dork County.
[SPEAKER_00]: So feeling is so giddy, feeling it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm feeling it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Today we ran into town for coffee.
[SPEAKER_00]: The kids and I and the god out of the truck and we all just sort of stood there like,
[SPEAKER_00]: just the sun shining when there is sunshine life is so much every nobody wanted to go inside we we live we all just stood at the back door just taking it and I know everybody's been experiencing this for a good four weeks now but here in in the north uh the highest and they're just blooming so we're just yeah I know I know I know I know every year but we're giddy we're just like oh I said I walked outside and I just felt like this
[SPEAKER_00]: being in my countenance, and I just sit out loud.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's myself.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's called myself.
[UNKNOWN]: I'm back.
[SPEAKER_02]: We filled our member last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: We bought that above ground pool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We filled it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like frogs could live in it because we still have to do all the stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we sat out.
[SPEAKER_02]: in picnic tables overlooking the uncut grass with like little pockets of trash here in there are green swabby pool.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was so happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was so happy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like even amongst this, like I'll tend to this, but being able to be outside, breathe fresh air, feel the sunshine,
[SPEAKER_00]: Holy cow, wow, just wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: 56 degrees here at West today.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're just like, time to go streak it more.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just great.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just great to be.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of my kids had the audacity to mention winter.
[SPEAKER_02]: next year.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, you shut your face.
[SPEAKER_02]: Your face.
[SPEAKER_00]: That of which we do not speak on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have this rule in our house.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't like, you can't rush summer.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I have an August birthday, mine's in July, then there's an August one, and then there's a September one.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't talk about our birthdays.
[SPEAKER_00]: We don't plan them out loud, which
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: We are not looking forward to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I want every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: every day.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: I get like from here till Halloween, I am actually very territorial like with how I spend my time, like, I'm jealous.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just like, yes, no, no, no, no, no, maybe yes, maybe.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to be here.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go anywhere.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be grudge going anywhere from for the next five months.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well too bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have to see me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm forcing Angela to see me.
[SPEAKER_03]: Six years is, that's enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: Leave the shire, venture out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we're glad to be with you here today, ladies.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for joining us.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's take a second to say thank you to a season 28 sponsor, Azure Standard.
[SPEAKER_02]: which we talked about this last week, and thank you guys for your responses to last week's episode, by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Big, big response to last week's response.
[SPEAKER_00]: That episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we will talk a little bit more about that, but I've been trying to fend off some of these places where life gets a little bit bottlenecked, where you're maybe more inclined to,
[SPEAKER_02]: to speak those untrue things or sort of start to think those untrue thoughts.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you have kids, then you know a big bottleneck in the home inevitably is food.
[SPEAKER_02]: So one of the ways that we really try to prevent this life and really intentional about this this week is having food stocked in your pantry.
[SPEAKER_02]: your kids are going to want to eat.
[SPEAKER_02]: You are going to go, do you ever get like angry at yourself when it's like 11.45 and you're like, oh, I'm hungry for lunch and you're like, in your mind, you're like, you weakling, come on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just I hate stopping for lunch.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate stopping for lunch when I hate it.
[SPEAKER_00]: My kids at about 11.23.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh, it's break time.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, no, it's not.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we might just work through today.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Could we just work through and be done at one instead of pausing at noon, having to get it all cleaned up, get back on track.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, they're just being normal.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very normal to need food.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so if you can have a pantry,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I might own just get patient.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that because I'm not on a route.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have to pay a little bit to get them to come up here.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it would be worth it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just need to stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need to do the thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's spring.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can order your garden starts.
[SPEAKER_00]: But with summer is scraped knees, booboos, bug bites,
[SPEAKER_00]: little accidents.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a great place to stock your first aid kit and your medicine cabinet, things like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love what they carry by way of just Arnaca or little powders to help coagulate, you know, injuries.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm working currently working on a big full spreadsheet.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want a full last week I rushed my order and I forgot a bunch of things and then I'm sad.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yes, I'm like, hey, we're going to go through this entire spreadsheet of everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have it?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because people got to eat.
[SPEAKER_02]: People got to eat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, we finally did the thing and scrape through some of your comments that came through on Spotify.
[SPEAKER_02]: So thank you for those.
[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't been able to do that last few episodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm glad that we, I'm glad that we get to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Finally.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love I love going through the comments.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, sometimes I'm not sure what they're talking about.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's we, Shay, we say a lot of words.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's sometimes it's hard to remember like which episode they're referencing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we're in a private conversation.
[SPEAKER_02]: We also used to sort of nail on shows like newsletters when did we say what?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who was I saying right right right but let's do our best here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Alexandria says I have a decent little age gap between my four kids twelve eight two and eight months.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh It feels like I've been struggling back burning my dreams for the last twelve years.
[SPEAKER_00]: The main one has to do with horses I'm not sure when or if I'll ever get there
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I feel like horses are just, there's this little girl part of us that always just wants to have some connection to horses.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to have horseback riding be like a part of my life.
[SPEAKER_00]: That would be so cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this was in response to our episode where we were talking about how moms can feel.
[SPEAKER_02]: or women in general, can feel guilty for having dreams.
[SPEAKER_02]: As if it's some sort of reflection of their contentedness.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And Alexander, I totally feel you want on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel this one with you because I was a horse girl for many, many, many, many years until I got pregnant.
[SPEAKER_02]: And my horse bucked when I was, I was still riding when I was pregnant with Georgia.
[SPEAKER_02]: and my horse bucked in my saddle horn went into my stomach and nothing happened, praise God, but I care thinking.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, I'm not that was scary enough that I'm not comfortable doing that right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I got this baby and then afterwards, I remember this may sound really pretty, but like I was so uncomfortable when my boobs were full of milk because you're like jostling and then my notes like what's the moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I haven't written consistently since then and
[SPEAKER_02]: My horse died two years ago, so oh, I feel that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel that for sure, but it's good to have those dreams.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll definitely.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's one from Alicia.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not a dream, but it's a place I'd like to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: Overcoming anxiety means I have to do the things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Avoidance is the won't have it.
[SPEAKER_02]: don't think I understand that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do the self talk, rebuild the neural pathways, find the right medications, fill my guts to my therapist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whatever it is, I have actions to take or ignore.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't let mess up God's plan for my life.
[SPEAKER_02]: He knows and he will be glorified.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not fully sure I can feel it coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: Followed by coming all the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you?
[SPEAKER_00]: Avoidance is the won't habit.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yes, Alicia, they're at your right.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are steps to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think is what I'm gathering from this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like we've said in that one season, nothing just happens.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So even to get to a place where you'd like to be, what I think what she's saying is a place without anxiety as a place she'd like to be, that's her dream, you know, mentally.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are most certainly things, steps to do, things to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: to do the thing, and to get to that point of entry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got to read the next guy day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Samantha says, oh, I'm G. I've not felt more seen.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's referencing me in my barf bag.
[SPEAKER_00]: Glad to hear I was not alone in driving with a plastic grocery bag to barf in.
[SPEAKER_00]: She means while pregnant.
[SPEAKER_00]: Only I used to hook the loops around my ears and wear it like a beard.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get it, girl, always a pleasure hearing you ladies share your experiences with us and encouraging us to live beautifully, not wait to make it to Europe someday.
[SPEAKER_00]: Until then, I shall live by curiously through you both.
[SPEAKER_00]: Through the ears, not that's like when I would walk home from elementary school and I'd really long, you know, I'd thick hair.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I would take my hair and like take it and then braid it under my chin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like one of those Egyptian masks to keep my face in my ears form.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's slightly more lovely than a barf bag, hook to your ears.
[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's one from The Free Men's.
[SPEAKER_02]: But love, love, love.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you all did an episode on your best tips and tricks for babies and toddlers, would love your perspective as someone who has been through it, which I could elaborate, but my toddler is pointing at my legs as I break it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yes, those, you know, I'm reminded every Sunday, I do still think of our family as a young family, but that is not the case.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I go to church and I see these young young families.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's a y'all family.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I when you see them have to get up and like dad takes a little person to the bathroom or whatever you're like, I do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the same thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's a young family.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a young family.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not mine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not these SaaS watches sitting next to me in the pew.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're like, did you put on a deodorant today?
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you brush your hair?
[SPEAKER_00]: Who's breath is that?
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the, like, it's just like a swamp in the truck on the way to church.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we all brushed our teeth, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: What is happening back there?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I just start passing out gum, yeah, just take it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think what's tricky about an episode like that is, there's some of that I don't want to tell people to be honest with you.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pretty open bug you guys know me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't hold things close to the chest very well but for example, back in the vlogging days, I did write a post on baby-wise.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, at this point in this call, I think that would get me put in jail, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you don't
[SPEAKER_02]: You make it, they can not be more what he doesn't want to.
[SPEAKER_03]: So they do jail.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you seen that scared?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, yes, I love that.
[SPEAKER_02]: People even back then, they hated the fact that I did baby wise.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to me, it's kind of like, I did not do baby wise.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was a co-slaper.
[SPEAKER_00]: I did healthy baby happy sleep habits, happy baby healthy sleep habits.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a big old forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Remember very, very good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: People assume that when you do baby wise, like basically your babies just crying 24 hours a day and you're just being this prick of a mother who's just like screw you know it's nap time and that's like it's just not the way it works at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean I remember what I did it four times with four kids and there was probably
[SPEAKER_02]: genuinely like an hour of crying total.
[SPEAKER_02]: It really was just like initiating these habits and getting them on a schedule and it was not that big of a deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: But now people are just so I guess against things like that that it may soon have talked about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's like a huge part of your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sleeps, naps, beatings, discipline.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is like the naps seven years of your
[SPEAKER_00]: I was very strict with schedule.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like you're waking up, you're taking an app at nine.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're waking up again, you're taking an app at one.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to bed at 630.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when they were, you know, babies in first 18 months, like, oh yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was at, got an album.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: At the same time, every day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sidney says, I love to this conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just that girl that wants to be a mom and that's not how life is just not how life is going.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that doesn't mean I should put all who I lost you Sidney.
[SPEAKER_00]: What does it say?
[SPEAKER_00]: My screen just totally scrolled.
[SPEAKER_00]: I doesn't mean I should put all other dreams.
[SPEAKER_00]: I lost it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Shay, I'm sorry, my screen just totally jumped.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, Sidney.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where are you seeing Sidney?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, see you Sidney.
[SPEAKER_00]: What did I delete it?
[SPEAKER_00]: It's right under the free, free, free mama's or whatever that, free mama, whatever that comment was just now that we just read.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you deleted it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let me hit undo.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, this is really professional.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I just agree.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I love this conversation.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm that girl that just wants to be a mom and that's not how life is going, but that doesn't mean I should put all their dreams on a whole.
[SPEAKER_02]: There it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want to go hard after those dreams while I have the opportunity.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: What's interesting about this to me said need to is that as time passes, you realize like you hold these dreams and they're good and I think you should grow and change and go after them and then those those even change you know and so I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a wonderful thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: While you have the opportunity as they say, make hay while the sun shines, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and then, you know, if and when she does get to be a mom, then she's that much richer, you know, she's bringing that much more experience to the table and stories she can tell little people.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Megan says I could listen to you talk about this topic for a whole season.
[SPEAKER_00]: I joked to my husband often that I know a girl who used to paint, or I know a girl who used to write, or I know a girl who used to X, Y, Z, I am almost 40.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I have three teenagers that have homeschooled all the way through and well.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mama is tired.
[SPEAKER_00]: But just remembering that it is good and right to fit those passions back into my life, brightens my day.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love hearing about your dreams, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: so relatable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I like that though.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know a girl who and you know Megan probably you've already experiences this having teenagers, but there are pockets that open up a little bit more.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm finding that making sure that you've you've set up your environment in a way that can facilitate those things.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you have the next book you want to read on your
[SPEAKER_02]: you're obviously going to be more inclined to pick it up and be able to spend 15 minutes reading when you do have those little pockets of time.
[SPEAKER_02]: When things aren't quite so all encompassing.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, finding those little little pockets that you can have for now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, here's one from Net.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, none.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got a few of these venue business.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I got to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you didn't look like you got wheels.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was going to right then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because of this episode, I finally deep cleaned my messy car.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was the thing I was avoiding now that it's done.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like a new car.
[SPEAKER_02]: This.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love a clean car.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do go I go to the car wash, throw away all the trash in the car, go through the car and with the one I go to you get a quick that you get a free vacuum so then I can it's not great but you know it's enough to get the offending parties out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to understand and mind me, like I'm trying to buy a new vehicle and I can't it's it's not working I want something so specific it's just not working I finally found one again the other day called the guy yesterday apparently he doesn't want my money because he didn't call me today.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just realized that he's going to send me a walk around video but once I have a new vehicle I will be I don't know what I'm going to do because we don't really have service places like that up here.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I have to figure something out because I can't wait to have something that's not going to be new, new, new, new.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, my husband does it all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: If I say, oh, we got a new truck, he's like, well, it's not new.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew to ask Joel.
[SPEAKER_00]: I like Jim to freaking correct me every time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you know, like, remember, like, in the back of the days with the sitcoms, like NBC or one of those things was, they'd say, like, if you haven't seen it, it's new to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, for everyone's, yeah, it's new to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's new to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's gonna look at it and go, that's not new.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're gonna go, oh, and she got a new truck.
[SPEAKER_00]: Heck yeah, I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if anybody has a navy blue suburban with a doon interior and a moon roof with zero rust that's from the south that would like to sell it to me, I'm your person.
[SPEAKER_00]: I prefer the transmission as already gone on it and been replaced.
[SPEAKER_00]: These poor salespeople, these guys, I just put them over there right here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not there one.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm four.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're the kind of person they just aren't lying to.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're just like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm so like the tail of the mama.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: I called this guy in Connecticut yesterday.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, just how much snow do you get in Connecticut?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you have the whole, like, salt-rust thing here?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, we do in Wisconsin.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I need your precipitation records.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, is what I'm trying to do, everyone, is by a vehicle from this south.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's not rusted.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I want.
[SPEAKER_00]: Navy blue, do an interior, moon roof, four by four.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the problem, too, is the drive trend in the south that's mostly two by four, or in two to two, two by five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, they don't need it for anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, thanks for nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot more comments here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how many more you want to do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cause, because I do want to talk about,
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, today's topic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some too.
[SPEAKER_02]: So do you want to pick another?
[SPEAKER_02]: What the heck is a 90 butter small?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know 90's butter mom.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to Google it because I read that comment and I got to know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: Read the comment.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is like a topic, but for fun, I'd like, I'd love this is from Alio 140.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd like to hear you ladies address the 90s butter mom trend.
[SPEAKER_02]: On the one hand, you are not butter moms, par excellence.
[SPEAKER_02]: On the other hand, doesn't the HMC tagline indicate a reaction against the denim jumper and demic to the 90s butter mom?
[SPEAKER_02]: What's endemic mean?
[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I mean, like, I'm just going to be vulnerable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't exactly know what endemic describes diseases, conditions, or species that are consistently found native to or confined to a particular region or population.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So specific to this, this 90's better.
[SPEAKER_02]: 90's butter mom is a 2024, 2026 social media trend representing a parenting and lifestyle philosophy focused on nourishment, comfort, and, as described on Instagram, a low-effort high-end aesthetic.
[SPEAKER_02]: It acts as a nostalgic anti-diaculture counterpoint to the restriction heavy almond mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: Prioritizing home-cooked meals, cozy, practical fashion, and a slower-lived environment
[SPEAKER_02]: on precious homes, low living, fashion aesthetic, claw clips, yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just actually remember that that hair fashion where you twisted your hair up, put a claw in and then let it like fountain over the top.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just have to do I have so much I just did that to do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no other way for me to do a clock up.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been wearing banana clips like it's freak freaking 18.
[SPEAKER_00]: 18.
[SPEAKER_00]: 1989.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love banana clips.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, speaking of 1889, I just read there's this new Anne Hathaway movie coming out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Angela told me she wanted to reserve this conversation for the podcast and I genuinely have no idea what she's going to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we might have to talk about this in another episode, but I'm just going to bait everyone here.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's called Yesteryear.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to do my research.
[SPEAKER_00]: I might read the book before I spout off my own minds.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I should do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll read the book.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can't just, you can't, listen, no, I'm going to tell you, it's called yesterday.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's a Tradwife thriller.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: About a modern influencer who curates a traditional life online only to wake up in the 1800s forced to live the harsh realities without the modern comforts, like she comes back, reincarnated as an actual Tradwife.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think she just like wakes up.
[SPEAKER_00]: And she's time-traveled or something.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK.
[SPEAKER_02]: So much for why I'm really uninterested in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not interested in the story.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested in how the culture is going to react to this, like the meltdowns that are going to happen and the mud slinging.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that would be.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just think that,
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I can't stand the word, trad-wife, the expression, trad-wife.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, more than you hate that sound of music.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't stand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Don't think you want to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Those two words.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just can't stand it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like that word,
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm keen to see how they are, I mean, to start, you have to define trad wife.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm keen to see how this book does that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And because to me, a traditional wife means that the husband makes a lot of money and she gets to stay home.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that's a traditional wife.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's at home.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think a trad wife means somebody who's chosen to maybe make a sacrifice and be home with her children.
[SPEAKER_00]: When she could have a career, I don't think that because somebody likes to bake and have a couple children makes her a trad wife.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm interested to see how Hollywood gag has defined this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, should be, I'm going to find it interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: and it says, it's a woman who embraces often via social media, a 1950s style home making role, prioritizing domestic life, cooking from scratch, and nurturing children while her husband acts as the sole breadwinner.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think this from the, this is off from the beginning,
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, women were doing these things well before the 1950s.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not sure why it's particularly in that decade, other than I do think women like that particular style.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they like to dress that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's kind of like that cosplay element to the Tradwife movement for sure, because they do all dress like they're from the 50s or 60s.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do they?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is also like 1950s is kind of like Madman-ish era, you know, and this was the time where if your man was being the sole breadwinner off some job, he was most likely like a traveling salesman, probably with the second family or a couple of mistresses.
[SPEAKER_02]: For sure, he had a liquor cabinet in his
[SPEAKER_02]: By first thought when I hear this though, is the Proverbs 31 woman, okay, if you guys have ever read Proverbs 31 in the Bible, she ain't staying at home, this is a busy, she's got stuff going on like she's she is most certainly caring for hers, her husband, her children, etc.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess this is kind of like that Suzy homemaker thing we were talking about a couple of weeks ago.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to me, this feels like, hey, you stay home while your husband basically goes off, gets drunk, goes and gammals, smokes a bunch of cigarettes, sleeps with your legs.
[SPEAKER_00]: But that's not really fair.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're like making about the husband.
[SPEAKER_00]: I miss that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But she's just then she keeps, she comes up and she's like, I made you meet love, like everything's fine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and in your mind, the trad wife is Betty Draper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's Betty Draper.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: 100%.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is she in your mind?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's what I think of.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, no matter what's going on in your marriage, you are just, you just, you just take it and make the meat loaf and shut up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I just, I don't have like a nostalgic or like historical thing that pops up to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's this like conjured up fake influencer thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just find it cringe.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate the word.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hate
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't care for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: It, I, it, I don't, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it bugs me.
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, they're antithetical.
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, I feel like it's, rather, oxymoronic, rather in that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if, for example, this book is the story is about an influencer, again, I'm only no so much if just read, skimmed some headlines, but so she's an influencer.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and like, I'm not an influencer, okay?
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a friend that introduces me as an influencer.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I actually, like, I'm not out, like, I don't have affiliate links.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not trying to get you to like, not clicking my fingernails, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, she's making money.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like a tradwife, they're oxymoronic.
[SPEAKER_00]: A tradwife is not what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hustling.
[SPEAKER_00]: And an influencer is like hustling, you know?
[SPEAKER_00]: And do you suit, I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: So the tradwife, the modern tradwife on social media, is hustling.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're saying it's oxymoron because.
[SPEAKER_02]: OK. OK, I see what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of this stuff says it's a horror movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, gosh, well said.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I again, let's do a movie is life without modern dentistry.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is a horror movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if anyone ever tells you it was better in the good old days, there were no good old days.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was dysentery and Ebola and rotting teeth and no Nova came.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the good old days consisted of.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we are living in the good days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, we play this game with our friends sometimes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who would be dead?
[SPEAKER_00]: The store would be dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: You would be dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: You would be like, I'm dead.
[SPEAKER_03]: My friend just is like, I would have followed it to a hole.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a go.
[SPEAKER_03]: You would be so dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I would have died in childhood.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would be really ugly.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not a good look in the Victoria and era.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need the eye definition.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need the mascara.
[SPEAKER_00]: The mascara.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need the mascara.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can see a lot of concealer and no under eye concealer for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is I need the teeth whiter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Whoa, a hair remover.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, I would be full stashed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just cleaned it up just to come on camera here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you can see that that far away.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was catfish.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh, it was bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, let's ask this question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I saw this brought up recently.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw this brought up recently in terms of Christianity.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it was this like, this is gonna be a country where she goes.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna bounce on the diving board a few times before.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you just gonna jump in?
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the question I'm posing to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, were there good hold days?
[SPEAKER_02]: So here we are shopping it out as homemakers and thinking, modern times are really hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are absolutely incredibly difficult parts about our modern living.
[SPEAKER_02]: Were there good oldies?
[SPEAKER_00]: Gally, how can I not say yes?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a, look, I'm a super nostalgic person.
[SPEAKER_00]: How can I not look back and go?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's our simpler.
[SPEAKER_00]: We drank from a garden hose or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like that, you know, I just think the problem with the good old days is you don't know when you're in them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like it's like an era and it repeats.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, it's not that,
[SPEAKER_00]: Is not that any, like, are we talking about our own lives or are we going to, yeah, I mean, what are we doing here?
[SPEAKER_00]: What are we doing?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of people when they think about the good old days, they go back to like their middle school years or their early high school years when they were a kid and they could, we were playing in the neighborhood.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were drinking out the guard house.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were like, you know, we were lying down in the Whitney Houston.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know whatever it is that we were doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was,
[SPEAKER_02]: When life was more carefree, I think it's actually what we mean when we say that, like I miss the time and life when I didn't have to worry about paying property taxes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, culturally has that time ever insisted?
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and I just don't think it's, I think it's that would be insulting to the people who lived through that time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, nobody's in the moment going these are the good old days.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or the 1960s for that matter.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'd just say we should put it in things and always that's what I mean.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, every era has its struggles and its highlights that are going to create a sense of nostalgia in the future when someone looks back to those.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I said it repeats.
[SPEAKER_00]: Each era has its goods and bads and there's, you know, you long for the highlights.
[SPEAKER_00]: You long for the the easier bits or yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: which I think, yeah, those are just seasons in your life.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not like a reflection as a fairly of the culture.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm reading this book right now about Italian history, going through Italian artists, Italian authors, the Italian opera, obviously, et cetera, et cetera.
[SPEAKER_02]: These people all love them.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I will use that word fully.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of them are just absolutely morally duper-raved.
[SPEAKER_02]: awful.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, the STDs, like, those were a real part of people's daily life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: STDs.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, gosh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: People dying of selfless.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, just just so morally to pray that I don't even want to say this is a book you're reading.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but
[SPEAKER_00]: what does this have to do with the good old days?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you did you lead with that?
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not getting there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, okay, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so you have these people that live this insanely morally deprived life and it's about that it's ever completely fully socially acceptable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes they get a little slap on the wrist like, hey, you can't do that, you know, you can't live in Venice anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get out of here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gotcha.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's way more, I would say way more.
[SPEAKER_02]: what I say this prevalent than it is nowadays, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So like it was very normal for men to have Italian men.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody had two or three mistresses.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all their special names for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody had two or three families.
[SPEAKER_02]: All the men had two or three families.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, most everybody buried over 50% of their children.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was just very normal.
[SPEAKER_02]: They would die of very,
[SPEAKER_02]: what we would consider now, like incredibly treatable things, okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: You get a bug.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wasn't a George Washington that died of a bug bite that like eventually got infected and then he got blood poisoning?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to die.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to die.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going
[SPEAKER_02]: where they just literally grab like pliers and rip your teeth out when you have a cavity.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, women, all of them, you know, they're just saying, she's 19 when she died.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's 21 when she died, you know, all of them died during childbirth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, we're going to go to Laura Engels here.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, she always has something to say, and she is my hero.
[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so there is a great book called The Little House Sampler, and it is a series of essays that she wrote writing for the newspaper.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like before, she was Laura.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, since you wrote for the local paper, it's really, really fascinating.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's where I got the idea of a family motto years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, she's writing during World War One, she's talking about, like, what happens when you take women out of the home, you know, she's addressing really, really, it's an excellent book for home makers.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's addressing really, really modern topics that we talk about on the show all the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: What happens when you take women out of the home, like, don't be fooled, there's going to be a gap.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, that we will feel that gap eventually.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, every she talks about like taking using your ponds cold cream and like having a beauty routine even if you're a farmer's wife.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just an excellent book.
[SPEAKER_00]: And there is an essay that she wrote, or a piece in it called The Good Old Days where her and her Amanso are sitting around talking about this very thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they, she notes, I just pulled it up here because I want to get it right.
[SPEAKER_00]: She notes that her parents pond my angles, we're all familiar with.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Almanso's parents in Malone, New York, like, had to make everything by hand and work so hard, son ups and downs, and lived in constant, like, sense of survival, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so they're sitting around.
[SPEAKER_00]: Husband and wife talking about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: And, but her observation was, yes, they did all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was just 24, seven, but that they also, and she's writing like, this is probably in the 40s that she's writing this.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that even seems like, well, no, not with the war.
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, an easier time for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's writing that they have,
[SPEAKER_00]: that her parents and his parents also had a certain peace and contentment that was missing in those modern 1940s times Even and Do you think they have that contentment then or did they have it after the fact that they were like, yeah That was okay times because we survived it No, I think even when you read the children's books there is this warm
[SPEAKER_00]: over arching sense of contentment, even during like the struggle survival piece of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think there's I think that's something that's very endearing and comfort even while you're reading it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And let's see what else is she say here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they ultimately concluded that while their parents had more physical labor in danger, they themselves faced a different kind of hardness.
[SPEAKER_00]: And we will resonate with this, the mental stress and fast pace of a changing world.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like that's conversation, like that has been a wife had almost 100 years ago.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're asking the same questions, were there good old days?
[SPEAKER_00]: Did our parents have it easier?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are we more mentally stressed out?
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I mean by it's like on repeat.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I see what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yep, yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it less interesting that change over perspectives are really, really important.
[SPEAKER_02]: And also even now in this in this particular year, we are not all of us are living in the same way.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe as modern Americans, we live pretty similarly, but that doesn't mean people around the world are living in the same way that we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: So so their experience is fundamentally different than ours for sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: George Washington did not buy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did that type of a bite.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's the trick?
[SPEAKER_00]: Straight.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know so many did.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did die of a minute acute apple legit.
[SPEAKER_00]: Close his airway to clothe.
[SPEAKER_00]: Was it?
[SPEAKER_03]: Does anyone know who it was?
[SPEAKER_00]: I love buzz bites.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which founding fathers?
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd have fouled him right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jamie, which founding father type of bug bite.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I, when I, there's so many things that I can think about.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's so many burdens we carry in this modern world and they are heavy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am not discounting any of those things.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you guys have been following minor Angela's substock, I'll make sure I don't think we have links to those in the show notes, but I'll make sure it fits those in.
[SPEAKER_02]: We reference it all the time.
[SPEAKER_02]: We do.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wrote my biggest post ever, two weeks ago, where I was sharing about mental health, but I've been encouraged to not call it mental health and instead to call it.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do I ask?
[SPEAKER_02]: What am I supposed to call nervous system?
[SPEAKER_02]: nervous system, nervous system, nervous system, health.
[SPEAKER_02]: Which I actually really like, because I don't feel like I have a mental problem.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, not schizophrenic, but in a world that's kind of constantly bombarding your nervous system and all of a sudden you're like, oh, wow, I actually feel quite uncomfortable in my skin and my body's not quite responding the things the way I feel like it should like a normal way, right, this little small thing happened and now my body's already on like a number nine why.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the kinds of things that actually make you feel like we're being quite impacted by our environment.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're being quite impacted by our environment because reality is, as a homemaker, sure, some things have changed, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I can drive to the grocery store and I can order things on Amazon or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: But a lot hasn't changed.
[SPEAKER_02]: taken care of stuff at home, I'm washing laundry, I'm cooking supper for my family, I'm washing dishes, I'm sweeping floors.
[SPEAKER_02]: These are things that have been done in the home forever and ever and ever, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And yet, our experience in them is different.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think we'll see a cycle of people?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we're actually maybe you're already seeing some of this, like I've gotten it, advertisement for the other day for,
[SPEAKER_02]: This contraption that you plug in to your wall, and it takes your phone and it has a spot for your phone and then it connects to a landline with the little curly line and like sure buttons on the phone so that you can have a house phone again.
[SPEAKER_00]: What what I I've seen that to what is the purpose.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's so this way we could try to waive.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think it's a little when your kids said, hey, can I call nanopop on you're like, sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go use the house fund.
[SPEAKER_02]: You might call your friend.
[SPEAKER_02]: Go use the house fund, I guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, because we feel like phones are interfering a little bit too much in home life, so we want to like we want to go cyclical back to a time.
[SPEAKER_02]: The good old days.
[SPEAKER_00]: Where yeah, it's also like there's there's hardcore nostalgia for the 80s and 90s right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hardcore.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I feel it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm all about the 90s lately.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I can't get enough George Michael.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, like those were my good old days.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I loved I loved it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Those were my good days for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were there's a lot of garbage that went on then, too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Stu always just said world's going to world and people are going to people and that's going to be true whether you lived in 14th century realm or 20 whatever century we're in 20th century 21 century what are we in It's always went ahead sweetie.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he's going to have 20 percent.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this thing you watched movies in the 1990s, but it said 20th century fox.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's always one ahead.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think about this a lot in the home, when I think about creating those good old days for our kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I actually think that is what's causing, for me, that's what's causing a lot of this inner turmoil is realizing that even my, in a lot of ways, my good old days with the kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't say it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's, I'm just saying that's why I'm having problems because we bought this farm.
[SPEAKER_02]: wanting to give our kids like when we, we thought a lot about this.
[SPEAKER_02]: When our kids looked back at their childhood, we wanted them to remember, you know, strawberries in the bucket and eggs from the coop and climbing trees and romping around the orchards and just,
[SPEAKER_02]: We wanted them to have that place in their mind, always.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we worked to create that for them, and not just the actual physical space, but the emotional space, where they can curl up with me and their dad, who love each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we worked really, really, really hard at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Then George is talking to us about college, and I'm like.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don't don
[SPEAKER_02]: With your kids, I'm not saying it's like there's a star in a finish, like it's not when they're 18, you're done being their parent, but You're done being a little kids parent You're done being like, hey, everyone get in the way kid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we're going to go up to the garden.
[SPEAKER_02]: That period passes really quickly It's And I think for the mother for a mother as a mother that's hard
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like to.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was when I was a mom to little sweet sweeties.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And just like them a decade changes us to and now we have to grow and
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, find a way to make this next decade, the good old days because someday it will be.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what my sub stack was about last week or at the beginning of this week or whatever whatever they were on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's so true.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Stop.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the correct.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we did these, if we were these episodes were like three hours long,
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh, can you even imagine we can't just cry every time we just we live out loud and it's like an hour and we're like, oh, okay, we better stop.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: And just going to cry and.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank goodness.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's wild.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm trying to find ways through that, because I don't want to also be the type of person who just is always sad that it's not what it was.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's because I told my therapist just this woman.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you don't want to ruin what's now with what was right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the compartmentalizing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine being on a vacation in every day of the vacation you were like, this is going to end.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my gosh.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a pet peeve of mine, actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: One and two more nights.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: When people start talking about like, okay, what do you think?
[SPEAKER_00]: What time do you should we get the card on it?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
[UNKNOWN]: Whoa.
[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't even taken my brawl off yet.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like calm down.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Calm down.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here we are, just been, we've been thinking out loud.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's try to leave our sweet sweet listeners.
[SPEAKER_02]: We love so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's try to leave them with the theme for this season.
[SPEAKER_02]: Has been due the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if we could leave them with a few points
[SPEAKER_02]: this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Creating, creating the good old days now.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is what we can do.
[SPEAKER_02]: No pressure.
[SPEAKER_02]: The past is gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just mean the past is gone.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's, there's nothing literally nothing we can do.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can't go back in time.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know for sure what the future holds.
[SPEAKER_02]: We never do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have today, we have this week, God willing, we have this month, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: This year we're all at different stages of our life.
[SPEAKER_02]: What are some things that you find?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or what's on your mind with this?
[SPEAKER_02]: How are you creating that now?
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we could have we should have like a whole nervous system conversation because this is going to make a journey journey for me like the last I think about two years ago like I even is when I just started using those two words together, right, realized that was like the crux of my well, maybe more than that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I started with the Epstein bar because that's how that's where Epstein bar like manifested in my body was in my nervous system and I got a handle on that like total remission or whatever you want to call it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I didn't realize how many of other things were nervous system.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that, like, plowing through my day and trying to get it done and like, oh, go, go, go, like, that was keeping me, like, in fight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I thought, well, that's my personality.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a go-getter, like, to do things, you know, I did, so we could have, like, a whole episode about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: All that to say is these days, my approach to the day is way more chill.
[SPEAKER_00]: I still have my to-do list, but I'm not like in this like frantic, I get approved something to myself vibe and it's more of like my, um,
[SPEAKER_00]: vibe, my aroma, or whatever, is more like a grown-up.
[SPEAKER_00]: How am I trying to say this?
[SPEAKER_00]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me think about this.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you are like getting the wagon, it's time to go to the, whatever, up to the garden, that warm fuzzyness you have as a mom of young kids,
[SPEAKER_00]: I am that's kind of like how I'm trying to approach my days with my kids now.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's not like I'm talking, I don't mean like I'm talking baby talk to them or anything like that, but I am looking at it as like these are precious days right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to enjoy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to enjoy them.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've said before how much I love teenagers.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to enjoy this and make it in as warm and fuzzy as I would have if they were little because I was so intentional about creating memories then I'm going to be intentional in a different way now and it's just much more chill.
[SPEAKER_02]: And fun, you, you create it in different ways, though, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't want to pile in a wagon and go to.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, and I don't even mean that I'm like trying to seek out fun things to do with them.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm talking about like my countenance.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like,
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't quite know how to explain it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, I'm not exactly young mature mom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm coming at this, like, this is wonderful.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just more relaxed about my days.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there are things that you can do.
[SPEAKER_02]: So when they were little, you could take them to the park, however, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And now,
[SPEAKER_02]: now it's like who wants to go to the pig with me right it's like if they get a little bit of an alone trip or they're like mom can I get some new socks and you're like sure and they're like yeah right exactly or you make a giant bowl of popcorn yeah it's just they're fighting in the enjoyment in just different ways yeah but that is like that is the good stuff and when you when you're about next week we talk about we come prepared to talk about the nervous system
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, if you want to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you guys have thoughts about that you want to we believe because we can consolidate the comments that we share next week based around we've got one of our closing comments as I was just curious if you've ever dealt with this.
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, so I'm learning I was just telling Angela before we had recorded I'm learning so much not the least of which is
[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about this a little bit last week how some people are incredibly sensitive to their environment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, most kids are incredibly sensitive to their mom's energy, their parents' energy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so what I am really working on for us can say fertilizing, but that's not the right word.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: What's the word?
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, fanning, boss story, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, um, is that, is that feeling if they're sensitive to mom?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mom wants, the mom wants the fuzzies.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so maybe that means I make them cookies or maybe it's like, hey, I actually did your laundry for you today.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was your lunch.
[SPEAKER_02]: I took care of it for you when I folded it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they were like, oh,
[SPEAKER_02]: That's so nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so sweet, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it gives me the fuzzies.
[SPEAKER_02]: It gives them the fuzzies.
[SPEAKER_00]: When I was a teenager and I would go out at night and my mom would make my bed, like wash my sheets and make my bed for me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I was like a cheerleading practice or too busy or whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just remember happened to handful of times and I'd get home and be like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, do you remember that feeling when your mom went to the grocery store?
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love to that feeling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love to that feeling because you know what was coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, oh, we're good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're gonna go out tonight, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So no, you can't just like pick them up and nozzle in and kiss their little squishy cheeks anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are other ways that you can do it and they're a little smelly are then they were what far.
[SPEAKER_02]: What a bad.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here we go.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sounds good.
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