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[SPEAKER_00]: a factual data creation facility production.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In a world where some podcasts make millions of dollars, I bring you the OF&T podcast, which isn't one of them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, here's your host, Jim Schafer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Episode 321, which I'm calling Android Show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Google held an Android event this past week and demonstrated a new version of Android, well, sort of using a new Google Made laptop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next week, Google is holding their annual I-O conference, so let's pick more of the same for the next episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't worry Apple fans, the WWDC is fast approaching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's get started now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: tech news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll start off with what little Apple news there was to be had this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: According to Mac Roomers, the incoming iPhone 18 Pro will be priced, quote, aggressively, unquote.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By aggressively, they mean no price increases.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This despite the RAM shortage and other brands jacking up their prices in order to compensate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that Apple upon realizing that the price of RAM was about to skyrocket managed to stockpile enough memory to at least cover this year's products.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With the unexpected popularity of the MacBook Neo I think, an unexpected dent in that plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I would imagine we'll only be seeing this price-stability on Apple's higher-end gear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This conjecture is based upon a research note from supply chain analyst Jeff Pew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that spelled P U?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, that's how it spelled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though I'm pretty sure the name is pronounced FOO.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do consider myself an old ageer hand, don't you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the sinking feeling that, while the price may remain somewhat stable, the giant fruit company will make up for the lower profit margins by either holding back land upgrades, or by freezing or downgrading the features of a lower tiered devices, or perhaps, both, or perhaps both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On the right side, modern smartphones are faster and more powerful than many of the personal

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you're what's called a power user, I don't think that the freezing or downgrading of features will matter to most normal folk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most users won't even notice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, most would expect some sort of upgrade, and if they found out that some component of their shiny new bubble was less capable than the last bubble that they bought, well they'd be upset.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be seeing how Apple deals with this problem real soon now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I suspect that Apple will be forced into raising prices eventually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nine to five Mac notes that back in the year 2020, Apple filed a patent for bringing Touch ID to the Apple Watch via its crown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a photo last five years, so we've been hearing rumors of it coming to next year's model.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that sure hasn't happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last time we heard this rumor was late last year from Mac rumors, claimed to have found code supporting Touch ID and that this year's model surely have it wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, weaker instant digital begs to differ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate when that happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instant digital goes on to say that his sources tell him that the priority for Apple is too stuff as large of a battery that they can possibly fit into the new Apple watches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yay!

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I am of the opinion that this would be the correct thing to be concentrating on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can already unlock your Apple Watch from your phone anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But who even does this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Upon taking my Apple Watch off from its charger, I just unlocked my watch like I think most people would do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's by swiping down on its screen and entering the passcode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It takes about 10 seconds or less to do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, Apple had planned on including Touch ID in this year's model, but because it ramps shorted to side it not to do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that many people in Cupertino know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not as many as you'd think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And besides, the ones who do know won't be telling us peasants now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will they?

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[SPEAKER_01]: For those that have been wanting to buy the MacBook Neo, or even just contemplating the purchase of one, nine to five Mac has some good news for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As recently as last week, prospective buyers were greeted with an up to six week, a week period for shipping when attempting to purchase a Neo.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder how many of those buyers opted for MacBook Airs instead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good point, probably a few here or there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, recent ordership estimates have been decreasing steadily by several days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in some cases, even my a week, according to recent reports, Apple ordered a new batch of A18 Prochips from TSMC and has gotten commitments from suppliers to prepare for up to $10 million to be manufactured.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What's well?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The original run of 6 million quickly sold out within 15 days of the MacBook Neo's release.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow!

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Apple thought that the E-series of iPhones would experience this same kind of demand, but its $599 starting price was still deemed too expensive by prospective buyers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Apple could manage to knock another $100 off that price-wide bet they'd see an explosion of sales for the E-Series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially after the seemingly overwhelming success of the MacBook Neo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The leaking serve of upcoming products that helps to find Google has had yet another massive leak occur.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This time the leak is in the form of a 16-minute video of the upcoming Chrome OS replacement,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have the up and coming Alieker, Mystic Leagues to thank for this review.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched the video and, like most Android users would agree, the UI is basically Android optimized for a larger screen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This leads me to conclude that the so-called merging of Chrome OS and Android was a sham, in order to keep current Chrome OS users from regrading their investment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The set-up screens are the same as Android, well, at least, how I remember them, and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm not knocking Google here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a bold strategy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I had mentioned in last week's episode, this will make the transition from Android desktop to Aluminium OS, which I just found out was just a product development name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seamless!

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[SPEAKER_01]: More on the aluminium name later, the only differences that I could discern is the addition of folders, the ability to link laptop and mobile devices, virtual test tops, and a few other desktop-like things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What caught my eyes was that you can even link iOS devices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just another step towards a unified mobile operating system for the sake of control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, like Android desktop, Mr. Glix claims that aluminium OS is still not optimized for using a mouse or even a keyboard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, the Google apps included are nothing more than web versions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's early days and eventually Google will get around to providing dedicated apps, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then again, progressive web apps mostly behave like dedicated apps, and are easier to update, but by utilizing progressive web apps, won't some user control be lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, I don't know if we have an answer for that right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well it turns out that Aluminium isn't the new operating systems name after all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I learned that this past Tuesday during the Google Hosted Android show, where anything called Aluminium was not mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what's mentioned was the new Google book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now the hardware shown looks dazzling and expensive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This Google book was designed to run Gemini.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's now called Gemini Intelligence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right, we have Applin Intelligence, and now we have Gemini Intelligence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if that will become the name of this Android computer operating system or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was all confusing to me, your normal state then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now it's being called Plain Android, but I could be wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't be your first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nor will it be my last.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what we have here is an AI infuse laptop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: AI is so infuse that it makes Microsoft co-pilot seem tame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The main feature of this new operating system that was harped on the most, anyway, was the ability to create your own personal widget to track things like the status of an upcoming family trip, which is one of the examples given by Google.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This feature expands upon what nothing phone debuted last year, but the tech press seems to have forgotten about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another feature that I feel was somewhat overhyped was the arrow pointer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is usually controlled by a mouse, but on a laptop it can also be controlled by a trackpad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, duh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On Apple devices, if you rapidly shake the pointer, it'll largest itself to let you know where it's located, very helpful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, doing this on the new Google book, you open a dialogue box with the built-in AI.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Google seemed awfully proud of this, but judging by the comment section, the public remains unimpressed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The General's sentiment, cross-numerous comment sections, was that Google is over-stuffing Gemini and AI in general into their products.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some commentators, even, were declaring their intentions of switching to an iPhone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's blasphemy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As I briefly said, the hardware looks beautiful, and it does feature those glow lights that had been rumored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No other specs like display size, CPU, etc.

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[SPEAKER_01]: were made known.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the usual suspects will be producing their own versions of the Google book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here comes the fragmentation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Perhaps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think wasn't announced either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My take on the Google book and its version of Android is, this is so far the closest we've come to artificial intelligence becoming the operating system itself, I find this all interesting and look forward to seeing where it all goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, is it me or is Android's material design becoming

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[SPEAKER_01]: After the announcement of the Google book in this new computer version of Android, where does this leave Chrome OS?

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[SPEAKER_01]: In an attempt to settle some nerves, so to speak, Google VA Google Cloud blog post stated that the company will have a phased approach over the next couple of years for enterprises and educational institutions as Google books become available.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But what if these institutions don't want the Google book?

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's quite the assumption the big G is making here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The blog post went on to say that Chromebooks are still a reliable, long-term investment, and that you should still buy them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess what they're really saying is, please keep this particular revenue stream open for us until we retire Chrome OS in a couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And by then, we should have a method to force you into buying Google Books.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Google also maintains that the promised 10 years of updates for Chromebooks is still in effect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't expect anything more than security updates after a couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The blog post also stays at QUOTE.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When the time comes, we'll provide multiple pathways to transition over to a new experience, unquote.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how schools and businesses will feel about equipping their students and workers with a laptop, pack full of AI.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you're as a way to disable it, depending on how this all goes, I can see the big geez eventual abandonment of Chrome OS turning into a disaster for the company.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This might even lose them their hard one lock on the education market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the least, this move gives Apple an opportunity to get back into the educational market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a market they dominated for many years until losing it to Microsoft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've since lost it to Google.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apple's Neolaptop has given them a fighting chance to reclaim some of that market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's if Apple can keep up with demand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really glad that I decided to buy a MacBook Air a few years ago, instead of buying a high-end Chromebook, and that's what I had originally planned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I dodged a bullet there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Google also confirmed that Android XR powered smart classes will be showcased at next week's annual I.O.

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[SPEAKER_01]: extravaganza.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But don't be getting your hopes up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This will just be a preview, not an introduction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This news comes out of Tuesday's Android show, but was overshadowed by the Big Google Book announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Big G has all the right partners lined up to, including Samsung,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I predict we'll see these smart glasses start arriving sometime in 2027.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I've reported on this next story before, but I always find that the more you hear the rumblings of certain rumors, the more likely they are to become fact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: ZDNet Korea is reporting that the next base model Galaxy S27 phone will have a display supplied by Chinese manufacturer B-O-E. You remember B-O-E, don't you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apple tried to contract with them twice to provide the displays for iPhones over the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first attempt saw BOE altering the design of the display to get better yields.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That caused outgoing CEO Tim Cook to call the CEO of BOE to the carpet in Cupertino when fire him along with his firm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year, BOE was supposed to provide iPhone displays for the Chinese domestic market iPhones, but again,

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[SPEAKER_01]: couldn't manufacture an acceptable yield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Instead, Samsung was contracted to provide the display for the Pro iPhone models.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm remembering correctly, BOE went to providing the display for the base model iPhone sold within the Chinese domestic market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: BOE also provides the displays in all markets for the E-series of iPhones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My son and daughter both have iPhone 16Es.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and have experienced no problems with the displays on their phones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: According to Android Authority, B-O-E currently supplies the displays for the mid-tier Galaxy A57 why is in Samsung using their own displays?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just another effect of the RAM shortage, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope Samsung's experience is dealing with a BOE or better than the experience Apple had with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well good luck with that, bro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My opinion is, using LG display or go away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now here's a weird story that was reported by CNET.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Federal Bureau of Investigation, better known as the FBI, has remotely reset consumer routers targeted by a rush's fancy bear hacking unit without notifying owners of said routers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So the FBI can just decide to do that on their own?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, they got a quarter order which allowed them to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of the target and now reset routers were manufactured by none other than TP-Link.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And these TP-Link routers were not receiving any firmware or security updates, so they're still vulnerable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The good news here is that the routers on this list are all older TP link models.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most consumers link those who listen to this and other tech-minded podcasts, but have moved on for these models by now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bad news is that there are still a number of them still in use.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Enough of them before the FBI to take this action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd wager that a bunch of government agencies still had these old routers in use, and that's why the FBI took this somewhat drastic action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A list of the vulnerable routers are available on 95Mac.com and other websites.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess now we know what the catalyst was which caused the FCC to ban all foreign-made routers recently, while with some heavy lobbying from competitors, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though I love my TP-Link mesh system, all this drama has caused me to reconsider what brand of mesh system I'll be buying next.

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[SPEAKER_03]: ERO, here we come!

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By my estimation, I still have a couple of years to decide which a brand I'm going to purchase.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tech I'm using, sort of, over the years on this podcast, I've used this my platform, as small as it has become, for expressing my opinion on what direction tech in general is heading towards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though I have made no claim of being an expert in anything,

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's readily apparent for those few that still bother listening to this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't disagree with that statement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been fairly sure that mobile operating systems will eventually take over the space that does now occupied by computer operating systems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The unveiling of the new Android on Google's latest laptop convinces me that this is becoming true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If computers are powered by an internet,

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[SPEAKER_01]: accomplished a couple of firsts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll become the first company that had a mobile operating system to make the migration to the desktop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it will be from a company that started off with only a mobile operating system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apple had Apple Dawson Mac OS before venturing into the mobile market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Microsoft had MS Dawson Windows before Windows Mobile and the now-defunct Windows

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[SPEAKER_01]: you bit I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the first things Microsoft's current CEO did upon ascending to the throne was abandoning Windows Phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's steady chose to make a company software as compatible as possible with Android.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's then Microsoft has pivoted first to the cloud and now to AI and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Windows Phone was a great mobile operating system, and that's just not my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By withdrawing from the mobile phone market, Mr. Nadela made his first and most likely biggest mistake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now back to the main topic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Google started with just Android and Chrome OS later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been apparent to me that Apple has been slowly moving towards making iOS into a replacement for Mac OS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bear with me, I don't understand Apple pays a lot more attention to iOS than it does to macOS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: iOS is Apple's bread and butter, but macOS has been basically frozen in place for many years now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All new features appear on iOS first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Back in 2019, Apple broke off the iPad from iOS and created iPad OS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: While the giant fruit company supposedly did this in order to take advantage of the power of the iPad's hardware, I believe that Apple has been using iPad OS as a kind of test bid for the eventual merger of iOS with Mac OS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: iPad OS more resembles Mac OS than it did a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Many people thought that Apple was attempting to position the iPad as a PC replacement, and after seeing those what is a computer commercials, I thought so too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still I suspected that the goal was really for iOS and its derivatives to eventually become the only operating system of Apple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Google realizing this just beat them to the punch as they usually do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apple likes to take things slow in order to perfect their products.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At least I hope that's why it takes them so long to release their versions of competitors' products already on the market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like an iPhone in a foldable form factor, for example.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's also an advantage with having just one operating system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To start with, it would be much easier to maintain that one operating system rather than having to maintain two separate OS's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: would also be easier to update.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another thing to consider is that the code for macOS is getting long and a tooth compared to iOS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Something else that points to Apple hitting into the iOS on all devices direction is last year's renaming of all the company's operating systems to OS 26.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Previously, each OS had a separate numbering system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My iPad Pro says yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only limitations for me concerning the iPad are ironically hardware-related not software.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I don't know is if iOS will be powerful enough for professional situations involving heavy, number crunching or video-intensive tasks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, Apple just discontinued the Mac Pro, which reigns supreme over the professional power user market.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apple can keep Mac OS around the till iOS proof itself worthy, just like Google is positioning Chrome OS as a transition operating system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last piece of evidence that Apple is moving towards an iOS-only future is the creation and release of the MacBook Neo that computer is powered by an older model A18 processor, which is a mobile chip that was designed to run iOS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you see Apple release in iOS desktop mode like Google has done for Android, then you know that I'm right about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about Microsoft?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The company hasn't had a viable mobile operating system since 2020.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They failed scaling down Windows OS to run on arm and mobile chips twice now, and that's according to just my calculations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With Google slowly taking Android private so to speak, blocking it down to the point where Android is starting to resemble iOS, along with Apple continuing to be Apple, no matter how much the European Union threatens them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Microsoft may be left behind in all this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at least Windows OS will be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are my predictions, and you can take them to the bank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just write them down in the book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: entertainment news, these $600,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,

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[SPEAKER_01]: According to Android Authority, the ONN 4K Pro is completely out of stock nationwide, and the reason is probably because of those aforementioned scalpers buying multiple quantities of the streaming box.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the biggest reasons that this streaming box is so popular besides its features and price is because you can sideload apps onto it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at least for now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Many consumers have been giving up on Amazon's fire TV streaming devices lately because Amazon has been cracking down on side loading in order to fight piracy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know what kind of apps I'm talking about that are being side loaded on these other devices.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Argggg, Mickey, raise the sail!

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you going to attempt getting your hands on one of these on boxes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a hard no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather just do without than steal something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though the way these streaming services keep raising prices, it's a rather attempting to do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can almost sympathize with those that do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oddcast News.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OddNews.net reports that Amazon music has started rolling out video podcast support for both iOS and Android within the United States.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That goes for all subscription to your

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the first shows, let's call them bad instead of podcast because that's what they really are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That will be available with video or none of the dye would ever watch her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Listen to, like Michelle Obama's IMO podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where the former first lady multi-millionaire complains about how unfair the United States has treated her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lately, she's been complaining about her marriage woes, so there's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't listen to that show, how do you know this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know me, I try to keep my finger on the digital pulse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK!

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kudos to Amazon for supporting the Open Source HLS standard of RSS for providing video.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have gone the route of Spotify YouTube into some extent, Apple of requiring a proprietary file type outside of the Open RSS standard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apple does support the open HLS standard but created their own type of HLS in order to be able to support the insertion of dynamic advertisements.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a regular listener to this show, you already know my opinion on video podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it doesn't have an RSS feed, then it's not a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Using your own logic, being that Amazon is supporting the open HLS and RSS standard, wouldn't the IMO show be a true podcast?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yes, I stand corrected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, at least on Amazon it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am I'll still use his YouTube for its main distribution.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just checked the Amazon Music app on my iPhone before recording this episode and low and behold, video podcasts are indeed available.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though I was a paid subscriber at one time I may free-tier use of these days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Amazon wasn't lying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This video support is, in fact, available for all tiers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good on them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not to be outdone, Spotify has just announced that they're going to support Apple's version of HLS technology on their platform.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And why not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's money to be made by supporting Apple's HLS standard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: While sort of RSS-based, it does allow the insertion of ads as I mentioned before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, these particular HLS video shows have to be uploaded directly to Spotify rather than being distributed by RSS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, you're still at their mercy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All part of Google and Spotify's attempt to kill off the humble open source RSS feed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to give Apple Props here, at least the giant fruit company supports RSS, HLS, as well as their own version of HLS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Music is playing and it's almost time to say goodbye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for listening to this episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do appreciate you taking the time to listen to my podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, you'll return to listen to this old, broken-down podcast with Ranson Musings once again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope you enjoyed this episode.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed making it for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you somehow liked what you heard, while you can make a donation using the link in the show notes, any and all donations will be greatly appreciated.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you would like to contact the OFNT podcast, you can do so by sending an email to OFNT podcast at gmail.com.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, what she said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember, don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if you wouldn't mind, get off my lawn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stay skeptical.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that folks is the end of the show.

