[SPEAKER_01]: Good, good, love is love.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tea time, y'all.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's tea time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to Tea Time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tea time with Jamie and Dianni.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for joining us on the Patreon.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have some really fun topics.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna kick off for you.
[SPEAKER_01]: And today, we are talking about my real thoughts on the gay cruise.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just took.
[SPEAKER_01]: Boom, boom, boom, boom.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I wanted your all the things.
[SPEAKER_00]: I wanna start.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm gonna ask some questions
[SPEAKER_00]: really curious.
[SPEAKER_00]: First of all, if you haven't, if you don't know who I am, there's a note on the queer family podcast that I did with Jamie recently.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also the assistant producer on the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I help with all the things and Jamie and I have decided to do these Patreon exclusive together because it's obviously so much more fun with two people.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love a co-host show.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love a co-host show, but you'll get to hear more and I'm curious because I'm queer.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any children.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be so honest though.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't love a cruise.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've done one once.
[SPEAKER_00]: So first kind of want to like, how do you feel about cruises in general?
[SPEAKER_00]: And like, would you still have gone on this if it wasn't a queer cruise?
[SPEAKER_01]: good question, Deoni, very good question.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, as you may know, and as the listeners may know, I worked on a ship for quite some time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: You were in the distance.
[SPEAKER_00]: I lived.
[SPEAKER_01]: I lived on a ship for like two years.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you put all the time together, it was like over two years, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there were some breaks in there, but yeah, I did a couple contracts and so I've lived on a cruise.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know what it's like on the inside of a ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that life.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know the working life.
[SPEAKER_01]: And just some background, everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't listen to the show, I mean you must if you're on a Patreon, but like I had, I was helping to sponsor this gay family cruise with Gaze with kids, which was awesome and fun, and I was really excited, actually, to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I've never been a passenger on a cruise.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I really didn't know if I was going to, like, pass into sight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember thinking, like, when I would have friends come visit, like, and would come visit and stay with me, and then I would be able to do, like, more things that the guests do, and I remember being in the food sucked, and like,
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we heard, you had the same food though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, absolutely not.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, no, no, we eat down in the crew calf that down in the bowels of the ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: This huge, huge eating area.
[SPEAKER_01]: I we get like, you know, like family meal when you're a wage or have you ever been a waiter?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Chase, we're at this, you get fit.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't eat the food that the restaurant eats, unless they bring out the specials for you to taste so that you can explain them to your tables.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, you get family meal, which is like, like, at the restaurant, it was like fried chicken or like some weird, like, stewed meat with, like, like, bones and tendons and shit and, like, Okay, great, great, great, great, great potatoes.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I still like,
[SPEAKER_01]: downstairs in the bells of the ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a buffet.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had all a lot of options, but no, no, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is not it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't look good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, so I was I was excited to go on this ship and I was excited to be with a bunch of gay families and Jose was going with his family and so you know really exciting and great and I was I guess I was brought on in to to bring the lesbians really because it's always only been all men Yeah, these many years that it's been going I didn't realize to the extent of how much of gay men it was.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's literally never used with kout
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but he's trying to like, Brian is the the founder of Gaze with kids turn a branch out and like make it more accessible to all which kudos to him.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was brought on to bring the lesbians and I did.
[SPEAKER_01]: I brought some lesbians.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we were definitely out from number like, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a lot of gay boy energy and I say gay boy and they're all dads, but a lot of gay boy energy like we.
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell me, tell me, tell me.
[SPEAKER_01]: We, so we got there.
[SPEAKER_01]: The first day we got on the ship, we all went to this place to take like a group photo.
[SPEAKER_01]: So everybody was all together.
[SPEAKER_01]: We had t-shirts on, it was like a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were taking it, we, me and all the lesbians.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like friends with the lesbians all who came.
[SPEAKER_01]: So like, we hung out the whole time together.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were at the sports bar, we're all the boys, we're like out of the karaoke place and shit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm dead, the most stereotypical like LGBTQ happenings.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: They came and surprised us one night at the sports bar because we didn't have to admit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they came and surprised the lesbians who were like all yelling at the TV.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even watch sports, but all the lesbians I was with do especially.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're there.
[SPEAKER_01]: We, we, we file it to get to get in to take the picture.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the guys, one of the gay dads turned around and was like, oh, hey, let's be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's what we call each other.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, let's be hey.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a lot.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, so seeing it any good eye candy.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I, like, it took me, it took me like, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know, you know
[SPEAKER_01]: a full 20 seconds to even clock what he was meaning because he was lesbian and I'm married to my wife and like we don't but day boys are so different he was like you see an any good eye candy and both and and I were like and then we figured out both of us looked at each other and at the same time went right here looking right at her to wait
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, but you don't still look like, honestly, okay, I want to have really creepy and crews, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[SPEAKER_00]: Totally fair because I was going to say like walking down the streets of New York.
[SPEAKER_00]: My girlfriend and I can both be like wow She's really hot.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can like collectively decide that and see another hot girl But I don't know maybe it's age.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am a serial monogamous I am one woman like I my eyes are to her.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I can only
[SPEAKER_01]: And but there it I do think there's this thing with the Gabe the gaze the eighth step out a bit more than we Well, unless it's an age thing and y'all there's humility and young or stepping out to more than my age does I think our queer community is a lot at least I can speak for mine in Brooklyn a lot more open.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot more
[SPEAKER_00]: It's more giving like the web from the L word.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's giving like there's a lot of overlap.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of like incessed.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean like we talk about our our ex is know each like yeah, there's a lot of that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have our own version of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's not like we're not like hooking up with the other gay dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm the gay.
[SPEAKER_01]: If that was happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there might be a little of it because like them asking that was like such and like that's how they talk.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how they that's we're just a different species and and I was like Um Wait, oh, oh, no right here.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is this is my candy right here.
[UNKNOWN]: Look
[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like so, you know, like so being with the gay boy and they were like, they were 30 families.
[SPEAKER_01]: So 25 of them were gay boy family.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you were so outnumbered.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so outnumbered.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was interesting, but still fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's still great to just be surrounded by gay folks and like being a group and stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and we really all just kind of did our own
[SPEAKER_01]: It was interesting and what I have learned about the cruise.
[SPEAKER_01]: What I have learned about the cruise is I don't think I'm a cruiser.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am not.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: That ship, that ship is a party ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, first of all, I'm getting old, I guess.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not that old.
[SPEAKER_01]: I keep saying I'm old to you because I could be your mother.
[SPEAKER_01]: I literally could be your mother, Tiani.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just worked that out in the shower before we started recording.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't like it.
[SPEAKER_00]: How old are you again?
[SPEAKER_00]: This is so you've already eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you could technically.
[SPEAKER_00]: I to be honest, this you're going to be a team.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think you are my mom's a child.
[SPEAKER_00]: My mom caught me at 18.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my mom is like 48 49.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I am your freaking mom.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is problematic.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're in my queer family god mother.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm okay for us.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I like to be your queer family god mother and shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, it's funny is one of my closest friends had a kid when she was 17.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you are her daughter's marriage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, but it would have been a teen pregnancy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're not like other than that,
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, it's not it's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, so I don't know if it's my, it's my age, which I'm not that old, but or I just, I am not like the ship, there's something, there's noise happening at all times.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there's no place, there was, I couldn't find a place to go.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was like just like chill and quiet.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I need a lot of chill and quiet in my life at this point.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'll tell you what though.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Disney ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could laugh in at me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what though, the Disney ship that I worked on.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like for families, it's pretty awesome.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are a lot of quiet spaces on the Disney ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like even on the Royal Caribbean, like you're up on the top deck where all the pools are and the bar, there's bars everywhere.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a mall.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a mall on the water, which the Disney ships didn't feel like a mall on the water.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like when you're up on the top deck, all the chairs, instead of facing out towards the sea, some of them, they all face in.
[SPEAKER_01]: The whole vibe is like,
[SPEAKER_01]: be inside.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not what I want to be on a ship for.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to look at the water.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like I used to go out regularly at night and the ship I worked on and just that's beautiful.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dare at the water and feel the sea breeze.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it felt like really enclosed on that ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's like I'm kind of low key hoping that if we do this again next year, that it's not on the Royal Caribbean ship.
[SPEAKER_01]: So tell anybody I said that though.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're telling the people right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm telling the people right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm curious of two things.
[SPEAKER_00]: You said you wouldn't do it again, and you said why.
[SPEAKER_00]: But also was there anyone that like, because I feel like not all personalities mesh, and you've got a lot of different families, and you've got a lot of different people, and like who knows.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like TLDR, was there anyone that you're like, not a fan?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say this, I will say this.
[SPEAKER_01]: There, first of all, it was just so quick and like, there was so many of us that we didn't really get, at least I didn't really get to go into deep with many people or talk too many.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody was really, everybody was really nice and it really was like, my biggest takeaway was totally shit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, and that's we're just talking gays and lesbians here.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got a whole other alphabet that needs to be Included in my best into this whole group and we're all gonna have our differences and you know But yeah, it was fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was still fun to be around the gays and to see all the kids and how you know like Our families are just like everybody else's the kids were just as crazy as the others and you know
[SPEAKER_00]: I would do a queer version of that without the children.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've just like all of the adult gaze and queers and LGBTQAs and all of us.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think that would be so much fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Are there probably it is?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if there is.
[SPEAKER_00]: There definitely is now the next thing that out loud.
[SPEAKER_00]: There has to be, but like, honestly make it even more specific, a sapphic version.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because because to my point to my point to circle back, we are different and like same same but also different and I was just and to end to solidify this point even more I was just out last night one of my best friends who worked on the ship was me actually he we weren't like
[SPEAKER_01]: We played opposite each other in one of those shows.
[SPEAKER_01]: We were like, he's like my best friend.
[SPEAKER_01]: We call each other poogie.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's super gay, obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I went out for his birthday last night.
[SPEAKER_01]: And all his gay boy friends were there.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we went to see his friend, who's in an off-road way, show a woman who's straight.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was only lesbian of the crew and it was just a lot of gay boys and then two of other straight friends that that worked on the ship with us.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was really fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but even then it's like, oh my god, you guys.
[SPEAKER_01]: And these are child free gays, which is just a different whole other species of gay.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, a thousand percent.
[SPEAKER_01]: These are child free gays in their forties who are definitely living their their best.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because at that point you like have money like if you have money, you're not spending it on children.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a term for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like
[SPEAKER_00]: Married adults with it and they might not even be married, but it's like married adults without kids like there's a term for it So they're out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like gotten nothing to worry about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's like oh, wow Like they complain about their jobs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have time to complain Well, actually, that's not sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: I complain about my job all the fucking time But like they don't have the extra like stress I'm like if when people tell me they're busy when they don't have kids I'm like you need to shut the fuck up
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know you don't know and you don't know busy.
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't know no time Like when people like so good people like like but when people are like writing late or like oh my god I have so much it's shut up.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I will I will smile and not I'm so cold out now.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never going to say that you ever again because I'm constantly like, oh my god, I'm so busy and it's literally me myself and I and my girlfriend and you're the fans you do work very hard and you have multiple jobs and so I hear I see that I see that about you and also you didn't have children.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have any times not for nothing that like Ashley will be
[SPEAKER_00]: crashing out or like one of us or just like having a heart day and I'm like holding her while she cries or vice versa and she'll be like can you imagine having a child right now like can you imagine having to stop what you're doing because they need to eat or they need something and I'm like to be honest sometimes know on it I'm like I can't imagine so yeah about you it's not about to I'm so tired this morning I my 48 year old self only got six hours of sleep
[SPEAKER_01]: Which I have learned from today's experience that that is not an okay thing ever again in life at this age and I had to get I still had to get up at 7 a.m. and walk that little that little talkative.
[SPEAKER_01]: Guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, talking about what secret superpowers we would want.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I have no time for this as said, like, oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was painful.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dianne, it was painful.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also the most rewarding thing you're ever going to feel.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm dead.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, that's such a fun first little episode.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you so much for tuning in.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, thank you.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there's going to be more.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have I actually have a lot of tea to spell.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to hear some.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have to keep it PC because I do love everything.
[SPEAKER_01]: One of my guests, but I got some tea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bye, y'all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.