[SPEAKER_02]: Hello everybody welcome to Heather Shaw is kidding.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's me Heather Shaw.
[SPEAKER_02]: Where the hell have I been bitch?
[SPEAKER_02]: There reminds me of summer high tie.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you've not seen summer high tie and you are a gay person or would like to be affiliated with gay people You need to watch summer high tie It was a sitcom.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a new movie to sitcom.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like a mockumentary That Chris Lily An Australian comedian got I hope I'm boring you
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope you know about this already.
[SPEAKER_02]: This Australian comedian Chris Lily created a show called some of my high-tie and he plays all these different characters, very rooted and gay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the lines, he's a drama teacher, one of the lines is we have you been bitch, we have you been bitch, and I imagine that you're all asking me that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen, I've been traveling, I've been doing so many podcasts to promote my upcoming special that comes out tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_02]: very excited we watch it have it on a loop while you're sleeping give me those views baby but i did a lot of podcasts i was in a lay i spent a week in a lay Los Angeles doing so many podcasts some most of the episodes are out now you can check them out Jordan jensen's pot i did she's in New York City but i did hers you can check that episode out i was on Josh pex um podcast good guys
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, that episode is out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was on, uh, John Gobblecon.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're, if you're aware of the Goblin, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was on his podcast that episode is out juicy scoop with Heather McDonald.
[SPEAKER_02]: That episode is out so fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: And there's some more that are becoming out soon.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did Bob the drag queen's podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had a fantastic time.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really fun to do a podcast with Bob the drag queen because he's so goddamn quick.
[SPEAKER_02]: he's so quick and clever, it's like it's really nice because sometimes I was doing some pods with people that aren't comedians and it was like you know it's like talking to a doctor it's like talking to the DMV no offense to some people the comedy's not their forte and you know they don't get I was saying jokes that went right over their head or under their chin I don't know but with Bob the dry queen it was like boom boom boom just
[SPEAKER_02]: Back and forth so I can't wait for that episode to come out.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it would be really fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that comes out in early June.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll see But yeah all the podcasts I did I did so good.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's bad with Ryan Bailey.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had a blast the jet fuel podcast with jet ski Johnson
[SPEAKER_02]: I did a bunch, Steph Tollews podcast should be out this week, I believe, she was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, everybody was great.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we were to, if they were dicks to me, when I'm on their podcast, that would, that would, I would probably, I would just make a video right there and then, right then and there, I'd pull up my phone and be like, so I'm on this podcast with this person, giant queath.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're treating me like shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but it was fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Check out all those episodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I've just been, you know, promoting my ass off for this special.
[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot wait for you to see it.
[SPEAKER_02]: The special is called all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: See ya.
[SPEAKER_02]: Come on, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's branding.
[SPEAKER_02]: They wouldn't let me name it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nanette too.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here we are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did I want to call it avatar five?
[SPEAKER_02]: The way of the queef?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: They wouldn't let me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who's they?
[SPEAKER_02]: Every, all my friends said don't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: a classic mouth fart for you um we are audio only on this podcast because um well because my phone ran out of storage so i have an apple iPhone my phone ran out of storage it gives me shit i go to record this podcast on on my phone and it constantly runs out of storage and i don't actually record it so i said fuck it we'll just do audio we're taking it old school we don't need a fucking studio it's just me anyways i'm just ranting at you if you're on youtube listening to
[SPEAKER_02]: we can just do audio only.
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[SPEAKER_02]: God, it's coming around to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm like in LA.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I also, I did two Patreon episodes last week, two extra episodes of this podcast, one with my wife, Lily.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get into personal stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just us arguing for an hour, can you imagine?
[SPEAKER_02]: I took in my phone and I recorded our couples therapy session and it is up on Patreon, just kidding.
[SPEAKER_02]: Couples therapy is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are not currently in it, but we, I suggest it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've done it before marriage.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did a session that's always good just to kind of, and it's also good when things arise in your relationship and it usually always comes down to communication and how, you know, everybody's different with their styles.
[SPEAKER_02]: We always take it to a couple.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a therapist,
[SPEAKER_02]: on call.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we just reach out to where we want a session.
[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't had one in a while because you know, it's just been a non-event, but sometimes things come up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's okay because you're two people.
[SPEAKER_02]: who are in a relationship together, it shouldn't be looked down at or treated like if you're in couples therapy, you're in trouble.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, you're enhancing your communication, you're learning how each one of you works and how to best work with each other so that you can have a beautiful relationship, a beautiful long lasting relationship.
[SPEAKER_02]: And our couple's therapist is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we haven't been back in a, I don't know since like maybe the start of the year, maybe right after the wedding we got in
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think we haven't been in a while, but that's how good she is, because now we're like, we're set.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the roast, people wanted me to talk about the roast online.
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, it's odd to do a comedy commentary video about comedy.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just becomes too meta.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I'll tell you here what was good and what was bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, here's the thing, the roast was, it's a roast.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's, it's like, yeah, people are going to get offended.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the jokes were hacky, some of the jokes were kind of, you know, Tony Hinch Cliff making jokes with George Floyd involved.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, Pete Davidson made jokes about Charlie Kirk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, one would say, one man was an oppressor and the other man was oppressed.
[SPEAKER_02]: But hey, we're just going to say if you can joke about one man dead man, then you can joke about another.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I would, I would fear to say that joking about George Floyd, that's kind of punching down on a guy who was already down, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, joking on Charlie Kirk, the man was, he was a public figure running a very large organization and kind of said a lot of shitty things publicly.
[SPEAKER_02]: But whatever, one of us, the oppressor one was oppressed.
[SPEAKER_02]: However, you want to look at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, you know, I don't really get offended by jokes.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get offended by how unfunny jokes can be.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's when I get offended.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm never, I never hear a joke and go, oh God.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you, I can't help, leave me, you be such a, I get, I go, oh God, that's it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what you came up with.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're on the Netflix roast.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's your joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, I thought most of it was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I be honest?
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't watch the roast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I watched clips.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way in hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sitting down and watching three hours of comedy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Girl, no way.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't even watch an hour and a half of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I do it for a living.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to watch anybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: I only watch comedy specials of my favorites and roasts I'll watch clips of because I'm like, oh, I want to see what Nicky Glazer saying or I want to see what this person is saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say it was a weird it was a weird mix of people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know it was it was an odd mix.
[SPEAKER_02]: Shane Gillis is not I think people are confused by Shane Gillis.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not maga.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is more liberal than people, I think, think, you know, Tony Hinchcliffe is definitely crazy maga, white supremacy, like, yes, fully, but yeah, I don't know, it's like, where was your pal, was your pal just didn't want to do it, it's probably beneath him?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I would have liked to see Pete Davidson was an interesting choice, but you know what he had, the great, I did like his joke about Tony Hinch Cliff in Charlie Kirk.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was really funny, and then when he said, Kill Tony Middle, please, someone to kill him.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, but I'm not a fan of Tony Hinch Cliff, so of course I'm going to like that kind of joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought Chelsea Hamler did really well.
[SPEAKER_02]: She came out swinging.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Cat Williams was in, it was good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I liked Cat Williams, you know, um, I don't really know about the beef.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not really, I don't really buy into, like, it's a full beef.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he showed up.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you really hated the man, he wouldn't help giving views.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I don't have anything against Kevin Hart.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm kind of like, I just don't, he's, you know, he's a commercial guy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Literally, he's an every commercial.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's a mainstream, you know, kind of milk toast.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just kind of boring.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's comedy for families.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's, I don't, I don't what I haven't really watched the specials.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a funny guy, though, like I think he is funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he's just, it's not something, he's not like one of my faves, I will say.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I have nothing against him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just kind of like, eh, about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: you know, he's just been shoved down her throat.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, AI at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just like, he's been shoved down our throats and told it's very important that we use it and watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say the thing with Kevin Hart that I will say, the kind of, um, I kind of get a little like,
[SPEAKER_02]: Between the roast and funny AF, which was the, I didn't watch that it either, but it was the comedy competition, which is there anything more fun than a comedy competition.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Netflix comedy competition, funny AF, great name.
[SPEAKER_02]: No gay people.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, something about that, and I'm not somebody that's like, we need every line up needs to have an Asian trans, little person, and a gay person, but it starts to be like, hmm, there really is no gay people.
[SPEAKER_02]: around Kevin Hart at all, like I don't know that funny AF when it got down to like, you know, past the first second third round.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know that I don't think there were any gay comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there's less gay comics, but there's plenty out there for a comedy competition on Netflix.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's plenty.
[SPEAKER_02]: There was great diversity on the show, race wise, gender wise.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there was a lot of, I think there were a lot of women.
[SPEAKER_02]: I could be wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think there were.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Gaze, not getting a look.
[SPEAKER_02]: Gaze, you know, a little weird, and then I saw the roast and who was up at that.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, gay people are great at roasting bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now here's the thing, do some gay people not want to be of all that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like Fortune Feemster might be too nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're certain comics that just don't do good at roasts.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you won't see like a fortune-feemster go up at a Kevin Harrowst, a Caleb here and go up at a Kevin Harrowst.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I think a roast with gay comics would be phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that includes like Bob the Dry Queen, Mateo Lane, Nick Smith, Caleb here and a fortune-feemster, Rachel Scanlin,
[SPEAKER_02]: Girl, we'd have a ball and watch how much more clever watch how much more clever those jokes are Jay Jordan add him to the list Watch add me to the list, too, bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not leaving myself out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Watch how fucking clever these jokes get Watch how the jokes aren't your fat your black your fat your black your fat your black it's not that it'll be cutting bitch read read it down, honey
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we need a ghost.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need a gay roast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe I'll make a video on that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a good idea.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, that part, and maybe I'm re- I don't think I'm reading too into it, because I'm never looking for gaze on things, but it's just something I noticed with Funnier AF, and then I was like, oh, okay, I was like, you know, okay, and then the roast came, and I was like, you know, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: There are no gay people, and it's kinda got that like, broy,
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I can say the unword.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny and shocking.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of humor to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It just something was a little like, stale about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe gave people wouldn't want to do that roast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't imagine.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's got to be, you know, I thought man, I can't even really think of anybody that would want to do the roast.
[SPEAKER_02]: would to be around that kind of crowd, to be like near Tony and Cliff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, Shane's fine, I love Shane.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting beside myself with it, but I did like it for the most part.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I didn't take a fence with anything that was said, again, it's more offensive that it's kind of hacky, a little bit hacky.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, overall it was fine, you know, it's interesting what Netflix led in and had to keep out.
[SPEAKER_02]: But maybe it's more cut for time or cut because it's not good enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, they're missing heavy hitters, Nikki Glazer wasn't there, she's a heavy hitter.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think Chelsea Handler did a phenomenal job, truly, for being able to be a voice of the left, if you will, because a lot of the voice is there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know Pete Davidson's pretty liberal, Shane Gillis is liberal.
[SPEAKER_02]: How many abortions does he pay for?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's pretty liberal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tony Henchcliffe, not liberal, doesn't need to pay for abortions, not having sex with women.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we need a ghost.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need a gay roast.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm over the streets.
[SPEAKER_02]: It gets a little boring.
[SPEAKER_02]: The humor is a little like, you know, eighth grade.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, um, um, why was Lizzo there?
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, why the fuck was Lizzo there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Dream on green.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Those could have went to comics.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jeff Ross, by the way, looks like a floating cancer cell.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like Jeff Ross.
[SPEAKER_02]: He said weird allegations about him looking to it with like grooming a 15-year-old and like having her live with him when she turned of age.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just kind of creepy to me and he looks, he looks like his evilness is like seeping out of his skin.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I don't know why Lizzo was there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that Lizzo had a show at Netflix is a joke fest that was canceled.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe I don't know why she had a show.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's never She's never she's never done stand up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I Mean she's she's a phenomenal.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's a great musician You know, maybe not the best boss.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll say that When she's making you like eat bananas out of her pussy, but who has it?
[SPEAKER_02]: What boss hasn't?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna need you to come in early to on Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_02]: Stacey, yeah, I need you to eat some bananas out of my pussy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that okay?
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't go to HR, Stacey.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just keep this between us.
[SPEAKER_02]: But shout out to the roast, I guess.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, more offended at the hackiness.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's move on to annoying white people.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a segment I call annoying white people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wait, you know what, let's go back to this because I saw a, oh yeah, George Floyd family rips Tony Kevin over yet another roadshow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's the other thing to like Kevin Hart, you're gonna laugh at like, that kind of shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's giving, I don't, I know jokes or jokes, but like, Tony Hinch Cliff at the road said to, to Kevin Hart.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the black community is so proud of you Kevin right now George Floyd is looking up at all of us laughing so hard he can't breathe okay so what about that is funny this is why i i take a fence to it again i'm not offended that George Floyd what about that is like inherently funny
[SPEAKER_02]: implying that he's in hell and then implying he's laughing so hard at Kevin Hart that he can't breathe which is how he died I don't know it's just it just really lazy it's just really lazy racism it's like it's like keyword racism it's like oh who can I use for for a racist joke it's like your options are George Floyd you know it like that's all they have
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, his family was not happy with that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They were a little baffled by Kevin's, you know, response to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even think Kevin should have laughed at that because again, it's not funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just, just, at funny, I'm not talking about, oh, because it's offensive, cause he, Kevin Hart is black and shouldn't be laughing at the, at the pain of another black man, at the death of another black man, the idea of being in hell.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just inherent, like, at the core, is it funny?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes or no, it's not funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's a joke like a racist uncle in Tennessee would laugh at.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's not clever, it's not, I don't know, it's just like, it's hacky.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, George Floyd is how many years ago?
[SPEAKER_02]: like a topical reference their Tony George fam George's family and friends feel Tony is a racist comedian they're not wrong bottom line oh yeah and wondered how Kevin would feel about these jokes if one of his friends died instead of George I don't think Kevin feels anything he has a lot of money
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, just kind of board at that joke.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not clever and that's gay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just like Tony Hinch Cliff allegedly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Caitlyn Clark, we're going on to boring white people, annoying white people, what did I say?
[SPEAKER_02]: What did I say this segment was annoying white people?
[SPEAKER_02]: Caitlyn Clark, maybe.
[SPEAKER_02]: All she had to do was like, just be kind of cool.
[SPEAKER_02]: you're like good at basketball, white, you're a white girl that's really good at basketball.
[SPEAKER_02]: The WNBA wants to clamp onto you because they want a white, straight woman to be the face of the league.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, because the WNBA is like, we can't have a black superstar.
[SPEAKER_02]: The black lady can't be the face of the league.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'll never work.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then, along comes Caitlyn Clark, you know, dumping three points from the logo shots.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's making three, three's from the logo.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's white.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's straight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Question mark.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's pretty straight, by the way, she's acting, or she's like, you know, trying to, like, convince herself.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's straight.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't really tell.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really care.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to go with Caitlyn Clark and straight.
[SPEAKER_02]: Her behavior's pretty, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: awful.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very like straight lady in Indiana that also farms.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Always in jeans, but like loves a good set of balls.
[SPEAKER_02]: All Caitlyn Clark had to do when she got into the league was like, in order to appeal to everyone.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, even if she didn't really mean it, she could speak up about the horrific fans in Indiana who call black women slurs and say the end word to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's really what's going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: I met, I was talking to somebody who used to have season tickets to the Indiana fever games and they gave them up because
[SPEAKER_02]: They said it was just horrendous as there is these two gay ladies.
[SPEAKER_02]: They said it was horrendous to be at home games and watch how Indiana fans would react On behalf of of the team to the opposing teams players black women especially the things that they heard just it was disgusting And when that all came out Caitlin Clark was silent completely silent didn't you know you think she'd have a publicist go like hey You should make a statement.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you don't give a fuck about black women girl same
[SPEAKER_02]: But you should make a statement saying that you do not condemn those remarks and that you are against any form of racism and that we as a, you know, a league need to come together to lift up everyone's, you know, voices and make sure that they're heard and like all this bullshit, you could, she didn't say anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: She didn't come forward with any fucking statement.
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't like, you know, at least if you want to save your image a bit or if you want to look like a good guy, you release a PR statement.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was silent.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, can you imagine if that's the case that her publicist came to her and was like, hey, we should do this in Caitlyn Clark's like, nah, I'm good.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's even worse.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can't force her to do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that always earned me the wrong way.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's just got a really shitty attitude.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that I know that men are allowed to have attitudes, and that's not the issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can be a hardcore competitor.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can be tough on the court.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just something about the way she carries herself that it just goes into, like, fuck you, territory.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, God, you suck, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just suck.
[SPEAKER_02]: You just seem like not great to be around.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now she's decided, again, I don't know where her team is.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that she's her team or her, or whatever, are totally okay with a lining, just with right wing, you know, maybe mega fan base.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think she plays for Indiana.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a flyover state.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's thinking about Indiana, sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, no offense to people in Indiana.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can you even hear this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have electricity?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's, I think she's okay with aligning herself with that kind of world, and she is not thinking about like, how she will be perceived to people, maybe she doesn't care about liberal people or, you know, minorities, gay people, she certainly doesn't want the gaze.
[SPEAKER_02]: She does not want the gaze girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but mind you by the way, I could have swore I've seen some videos of Caitlyn Clark like checking, uh, Sophie, counting him out girl, up and down like, how do I get inside those, set it lay be, how do I get inside that lay be real quick?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know, maybe she's battling some demons, you know, it's like the thing where like a gay person like clings to God and says they're cured and it's like, no, you're not girl.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but Caitlyn Clark walked out with Morgan Wallen at his Indiana concert, Morgan Wallen's like the the biggest giant douchebag.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, country singer, you don't have to be a conservative freak to be a country singer.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen that in Miranda Lambert and Casey Musgraves and but you know, Morgan Wallen is certainly a douchebag.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is Morgan Wallen the one that came out with try that into small town?
[SPEAKER_02]: Remember that dog whistle song?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, that's Jason Aldeen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Ooh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Morgan Wallen.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he's had any outright.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's done douchey things.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I don't know that he's had any, oh, Morgan Wallen was the one that was like, didn't he do SNL?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so the first thing he did that was annoying was he got drunk at Nashville like through chairs off his balcony, which was a kind of like, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: In February 2021, Morgan Wallen was caught on video using the N word.
[SPEAKER_02]: which you know that's just he's got a he that's a code at a fill he needs to say it like 17 times a day or else he loses his country music license um but he also wasn't he the one on SNL that like hosted or was the musical guest and like walked off
[SPEAKER_02]: Walked off like as they were saying good nights and didn't hug anybody because they're all fucking queer liberal bitches Didn't hug anybody, you know, you're not playing the game when your musical guests in SNL and they go all right good night You kind of turn around and you shake people say as you go, whoa, this was fun and then you get to go to an after party or you can then fuck off But once the cameras are off then you but he made it a point because he's a little bitch for I think it was
[SPEAKER_02]: Who was, who's that lady, Maddie Madison or something?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know her name, she was in a Nora.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mikey Madison was hosting.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as she's saying good night, he just walks towards the camera walks off.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a fucking douche bag dude, like look at me energy, tiny dick shit.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a loser and then posted from his Instagram, like give me to God's country.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be in this diverse New York city environment, not one more minute.
[SPEAKER_01]: Get me to God's countries where I can smack a woman and call somebody the inward.
[SPEAKER_02]: So anyways, that's the guy that Caitlyn Clark has decided to align herself with.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she's speaking volumes here, she's really digging in her heels in that conservative white Christian, you know, maybe white supremacist kind of bullshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Other athletes and celebrities who have walked out with him are Travis Kelsey, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if he knows where he is half the time, so I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_02]: Patrick Mohomes, I mean, these are all, I'm going to judge everybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kid Rock, Drake, do you see we're going here with Corn Balls or Racists?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, Brett far phrases, George Kittle, a little corny, I like George Kittle, he's a little corny, Mike Vrable, corny, Miles Garrett, he's just head full of rocks, grunk, head full of rocks.
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's he's walking out with athletes that have had heads full of rocks or he's walking out with the racist people like kid rock, Brett far, you know, um, or he's walking out with, uh, corn balls.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Drake like Travis Kelsey like that's his pick.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like we either need an athlete with their heads full of rocks But they don't know where they are.
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me Patrick my homes or we need a cornball.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need Drake.
[SPEAKER_02]: I need Travis Kelsey or we need a complete straight-up racist.
[SPEAKER_02]: Give me Kid Rock I need Carl and Clark a stat Notice she's the only woman he's ever walked out with so you know, I mean
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just an achy look and it just surprises me that her team isn't trying a little bit harder for her to make her look cool or appealing to the masses, you know, it's like the more she does, it's like, oh, if you're not a member of the KKK, you're not going to like this lady.
[SPEAKER_02]: and you know what page beckers is better anyways fuck it page beckers is better she's cooler i'm a page beckers is it beckers i don't really know i don't watch shambi wmba i'm sorry uh can i say something i don't watch the wmba but also i don't watch the nba
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so it's not, it's not a, oh, I only watch them and I just think basketball is boring to watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll tune into a basketball game in the fourth.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not here to, this is too much.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's ping pong on a court.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: The next loser I wanted to talk about annoying white person is...
[SPEAKER_02]: James Charles, what a foot-of-fuck-and-lose-er.
[SPEAKER_02]: James Charles is a fucking freak.
[SPEAKER_02]: Disgrace Beauty influencer.
[SPEAKER_02]: He is now walking back his original TikTok video.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've seen this or if you have a job.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're employed, I'll tell you about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He may say he basically made a video just straight up shitting on this person who reached out to him and asking for money because they had just lost their job at spirit airlines.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now listen, I'm sure that
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, sometimes I get random DMs from people, and I don't, um, they're in my request and I don't open them because they'll not, then they'll know I've seen them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a monster, but a lot of times it's like, hey there, I have four children and I need a lot of help and I'm just like, I just, um, I don't feel compelled to help.
[SPEAKER_02]: If I got DMs from animals on the streets, baby, I would be broke.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would be poor.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would be giving all my money to those animals.
[SPEAKER_02]: But something about a mother of four, I'm just like, you one baby as a mistake is okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: But like to keep having, listen, if you want a family that's great, but you have to know that that's going to cost a lot of money.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think sometimes we just have to have better choices.
[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes I'm just like, I don't know, how do you have four kids?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I know shit happens, but I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I may, I probably sound like an asshole.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope somebody relates to what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really hard sometimes to see a person who's been struggling since day one with baby one and they're on baby four And you're like, what did you think was going to change you were going to fucking give birth to a money tree all of a sudden?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm terrified to have a baby because how much money it would be one baby
[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, so even if you get these kind of requests, you absolutely don't have to address them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't get them a lot of times.
[SPEAKER_02]: I get them randomly, and I get them in TikToks, and it seems like a very copy-paste message.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, James Charles probably gets these messages.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got a lot of young followers.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's his kind of type.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who else is gonna follow this guy?
[SPEAKER_02]: Fucking sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, people without their frontal lobe developed are gonna follow James Charles.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm sure this, you know, like young 20-ish kid, whatever, message James Charles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god, I lost my job at Spirit Airlines.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anything would help.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like yeah, don't go to celebrities and ask for money.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just kind of like, you know, it's a crap shoot number one.
[SPEAKER_02]: but he didn't have to address it like he just didn't to put her on blast is fucking crazy it's like how can I make myself look absolutely awful in this moment so to get on and be like what was the original video i'll play it for you now here's his response if you haven't seen it this is the audio from his response oh wait i have to open up another app for this great i love having a producer it's just me
[SPEAKER_00]: If you could just say one minute to read it, it wouldn't really mean a lot to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really struggling right now, because it's very airline, just another bankruptcy.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I have lost my job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's to go about me link.
[SPEAKER_00]: I need donations help.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and you're entitled.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you think the influences and celebrities should fund your life for you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
[SPEAKER_00]: But I never help you.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not a fan.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to follow me.
[SPEAKER_00]: You never support me.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is your first time you have me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anything that I'm going to...
[SPEAKER_00]: Send you money because you lost your job.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the real world sweetheart.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you can tell he's just a stunningly nice person.
[SPEAKER_02]: His parents clearly love him a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he's got a lot of love in his life.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he's not miserable at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: To be a person like this, just know you're rotting from the inside out.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you've ever encountered somebody like this, just know they are miserable bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are rotting from the inside out.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, a normal, decent person that maybe didn't want to donate to your GoFundMe.
[SPEAKER_02]: This person's GoFundMe would see that and then move on.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to get online and it probably goes deeper, he probably knew this was going to get a retention because he's so fucking miserable and empty and void of all love in his life that the only way he knows he can get attention is if he goes online and acts like a fucking asshole.
[SPEAKER_02]: So imagine that kind of life.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't think this was just completely like, I'm just going to respond to this person.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was a way for him to get attention, which he's getting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm talking about on my podcast right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, but what cost?
[SPEAKER_02]: To what end?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, um, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So now he's done that people were mad at him.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't want it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I wasn't going to make a video about it because of course This is he wants attention guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: So his him being like give me attention.
[SPEAKER_02]: So But now he's coming back with an apology video.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh He's sorry now.
[SPEAKER_02]: As you do when you get your attention and then everyone turns on you and hates you He said the video is fucking stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was rude.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was obnoxious.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was privilege and most importantly was completely fucking unnecessary Yeah, maybe men can take four seconds to process things before they do things
[SPEAKER_02]: God, this guy sucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: He makes me homophobic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I be honest?
[SPEAKER_02]: If I, when I see James Charles, I go, I don't know if we should be allowed to legally marry each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's walking around.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if we deserve rights.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every time I see James Charles, I think, should do we deserve rights?
[SPEAKER_02]: God, that guy's a fucking loser.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just a fucking loser.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a garbage person.
[SPEAKER_02]: Whether or not this was his actual response or if he was doing this for attention,
[SPEAKER_02]: Someone on TikTok said it best they said I bet if a 15-year-old boy reached out to him asking you for money Then James would have filled up that go fun me, and that's the truth He likes those little teen boys, doesn't he?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because an adult won't fuck with James Charles Somebody you know who's had They're not stuck in a rest at development.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not fucking with James Charles.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a fucking freak.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate that guy Stop making me homophobic James Charles
[SPEAKER_02]: He's filled with hate because he's miserable.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let's get into... What do we at?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we're getting out of uh, we're getting out of an oil and white people.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're moving on to just uh, an enigma.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know this about hate impenetriere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, hate impenetriere was, I don't know if I'm saying her name right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hayden pens penitair was like early mid 2000s mid 2000s.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was in that show heroes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is that it's a show?
[SPEAKER_02]: She was in the show heroes.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was like her big break, I think.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, wait, you're was that from.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it was from 2006.
[SPEAKER_02]: Golly.
[SPEAKER_02]: How old is she now?
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see her age here.
[SPEAKER_02]: She is 36, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she's a couple years younger than me.
[SPEAKER_02]: She wasn't heroes, that's really where I remember her from.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was in, like, you know, she was in bringing it on, what one of the sequels of bringing on.
[SPEAKER_02]: She was in a show called Nashville.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was pretty popular for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's been in some screen franchises.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's had a decent career.
[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, she's had some rough patches.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not know this about her.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she's obviously on a book tour.
[SPEAKER_02]: She has a memoir out, which is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: The first headline is thought about her, because nobody's talking about hate and penance.
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't really hear about people into the promoting something really, or there are a Kardashian.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hayden, Penetir, I saw first, she recently came out as bisexuals when I saw that headline.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, she must have a memoir.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, when a celebrity is coming out as bisexual, mostly women.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, there's a memoir on the way, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: They think that's the big bombshell.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this one was a bigger bombshell to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she went on a podcast, she was doing the podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that's what I did.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's by the way, podcasts are the new promotion.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's no more late night spots.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's no more like whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, no, go on podcasts.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how you can get a bunch of people to listen to.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's pretty impressive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that is the new landscape now.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's podcasts.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, she went on an episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's got a very, very large, large, large audience, not obese, just a lot of people listening to them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I did not know this, but she signed over custody of her daughter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I think I want to say like eight years ago, which is crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I didn't know this.
[SPEAKER_02]: So what happened was, I remember hate and penitere had like, so she was married to a, um, a huge man.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's very tiny.
[SPEAKER_02]: And in this guy, I think was a boxer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Is a boxer was a boxer of Vladimir Klitsko.
[SPEAKER_02]: Klitsko?
[SPEAKER_02]: Blad the mere Klitsko.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyways, they had a kid together, a daughter, a kaya, kaya, probably back in like, I don't know, 2015-16.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember that Hayden was going through some weird time.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think her brother died really, like some really hard times.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you get her memoir, I'm sure you'll read about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to read her memoir probably.
[SPEAKER_02]: If there's like an audiobook I may listen to it on a plane, but like I'm not reading, can I be honest?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really care.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know that sounds rough.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really care.
[SPEAKER_02]: But Hayden, I think she lost her brother, which is horrific and really hard to do with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she had an infamous interview where she was definitely on pills.
[SPEAKER_02]: And let's see if we can pull that video up and I'll play the audio.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hayden Penn, I don't even spell this shit, on pills.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's as cold.
[SPEAKER_02]: on pills and I don't know that she's 100% sober now, but this interview was really rough to watch because she was clearly like
[SPEAKER_02]: She was not well, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was for people.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I want to say.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was for people, people, interview, drunk.
[SPEAKER_02]: People are saying she was drunk.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was pills.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if this is the video.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can get some audio from it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You tell me what you think.
[SPEAKER_02]: It could be alcohol, but to me it sounds a little slurry like just down, like a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: 25 years old or something, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, all of a sudden you're a mom.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is Billy Bush interviewing her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Would you say around the birth of your child that it was like social drinking became sort of a necessary crutch?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, living in Nashville in general, it's what they did.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're drinkers.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm living my life around.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm scheduling it around.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not the interview I was talking about.
[SPEAKER_02]: She does sound kind of crazy there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, where she is like smacked out of her mind, I got to say it might be this beautiful and she can't just like me, I mean, okay it's this one so in this video this is a um, a people interview video
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's not that she's drunk.
[SPEAKER_02]: You can tell she's not drunk because she's got the heavy eyelids when you're on pills by the way, no judgment I'm just telling you, you know, I'm very observant when it comes to substance as I can almost tell you What kind of substance somebody's on if they're in and what could do in a video?
[SPEAKER_02]: So she's on something like a Xanx or something that's making her a little like, you know, a little naughty in her.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's nodding out a little and her eyelids are heavy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she's taking long slow blanks where the blanks her eyes stay shut a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: And she just sounds, now I've seen every episode of intervention.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is where my expertise comes in because they're interviewing addicts in current active addiction.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what they sound like.
[SPEAKER_02]: So to me, this is giving pills, check it out.
[SPEAKER_04]: beautiful and she can't just like me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, talk about nature versus nurture.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, this little girl literally came out, not just her face like resembling mine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mind you, when her eyes are open, they are half shut.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like, you can see her eyelids, halfway past her pupils.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like she's got an open eyes at all.
[SPEAKER_04]: She is my personality, she just is.
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw her in her school play once.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was, it was more like a Christmas special thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And she was more concerned about directing the kid next to her and his steps than she was about what she would do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was poor kid alone.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really sad.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is really sad to watch.
[SPEAKER_02]: She's clearly on something, you know, and she had to go through grief.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that sometimes happens with grief.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't know any of, I saw that in whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: I knew she had a daughter that's all I knew.
[SPEAKER_02]: So then she, she discussed, on this on Jay Shetty's podcast, she revisits the painful decision.
[SPEAKER_02]: to sign over.
[SPEAKER_02]: She signed over full custody of her daughter to her ex fiancee, Vladimir Clechicle.
[SPEAKER_02]: Back in 2018, eight years ago, we can be generous and say seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: She signed over full custody of mid-addiction, anxiety, post-partum depression struggles.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that is huge.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like
[SPEAKER_02]: If she did that all on her own, that is incredibly tough.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I give her a lot of props for being able to be like, look, I am not where I need to be in motherhood.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't be the mother that this child deserves.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I would only, you know, bring us down kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would only be bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have addiction issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm struggling with post-partum depression.
[SPEAKER_02]: it's a huge thing if that's the case if she was actually like I'm gonna actually step away from being a mother if it wasn't like you need to sign over custody you're a fucking mess because that could also be it it could also be her her ex fiancee's family going to her me and like sign sign over it is baby you're a fucking miss sign over this baby hidden either way it's it's incredibly hard thing to do I will say though it's been almost eight years since 2018
[SPEAKER_02]: So now I'm just like, okay, so when do you?
[SPEAKER_02]: When do you get a rock?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you trying to get a rock?
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like in this article that I'm reading about her interview on that podcast, like she doesn't want the kid back, which is crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: So is she still using?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just, we're just gossiping guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't know these people.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's, no, it's fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one's getting hurt.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what do you think?
[SPEAKER_02]: The idea that she says the idea that anyone would think that I would just give my child a way and be okay with it is heartbreaking.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hayden explained she was spiraling privately at the time while trying to keep functioning publicly saying she felt like she had completely lost herself.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's addiction, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: She also pushed back on rumors she was forced into treatment insisting she was a one-begging for help.
[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's bravery.
[SPEAKER_02]: I desperately need help.
[SPEAKER_02]: She recalled saying to herself, I know this is going to look terrible but I cannot live like this anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's that's bold.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's brave to know that you're not fit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you have an issue?
[SPEAKER_02]: You've got to do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wonder if she's going to try to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Because here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: She says that there the kid is now 11 years old and lives overseas with her dad.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but Hayden says the two remain incredibly close, how can you be incredibly close without ever seeing them, whatever?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, incredibly close and regularly face time each other and talk about really deep things.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's really great.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the parenting style of Shirela Buff, by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bro, I love my daughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love my bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love my daughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mia puts her on the phone like once a week, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Once a week, bro, I'm talking to my daughter.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're so fucking close, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about deep things.
[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about the Egyptian pyramids, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mia puts her on the phone, bro.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a great father.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a pops.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pops, bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: hate and also clarified she doesn't believe her daughter feels abandoned, insisting kaya her daughter knows she has two parents would do anything in the world to make sure she's happy and healthy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems like it's a permanent custody decision, which
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's kind of baffling.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not my life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not my, you know, whatever, but I'm kind of like, whoa, that's such a To make that decision when you're struggling is incredibly brave and it takes on a courage and a foresight to know like, you know I can't do this.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not fair to the kid, but then like now what like you're just going to face time in that person for the rest of their life until they block you Or ask you for money and throw it in your face how you were never there for them except on face time to talk about incredibly deep things like the
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the newest episode of Drag Race.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, we're going to have to wait to get a memoir from that child in, I don't know, 15 years.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll get a memoir.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, my mother gave me up the story of Kaya.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, it's a bear.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just didn't know that she did that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that all as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hope that she's better.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have not watched this podcast episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what her voice sounds like here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Her eyes are fully open, by the way.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think maybe she's, it'd be great if she, I don't know, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: She kind of, she kind of sounds like she's pillied, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's just her voice though.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the other video on people magazine, she was really fucking high.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here, let's see.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna watch this with you and we're gonna listen to her and see if we can tell.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would just give away my child and be okay with it is heartbreaking, couldn't be further from the truth.
[SPEAKER_04]: As you said, I was struggling with mental health and anxiety and the postpartum and having to act my way through it and just
[SPEAKER_02]: feeling like I, I, she's a little space cadetty, but that could, that could be her.
[SPEAKER_02]: The way she talks is a bit like Ozanix draw, but I, for here, I can't say for sure, because that could just be how, how she talks.
[SPEAKER_02]: She does seem a little on something.
[SPEAKER_02]: She seems like she's on something that would calm her nerves.
[SPEAKER_02]: That maybe it gives her anxiety to have to talk about really serious things, which it would give me anxiety too bitch.
[SPEAKER_02]: I want you to be on a colonopin, but I will, she does seem a little like, you know, I was really on a lot of, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: But maybe that's her voice, Hayden fans, if you're still out there, the way in.
[SPEAKER_02]: God bless her, I hope she's, I hope she has beautiful life, she's had to go through some rough things, you know, it is what it is.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the last thing i wanted to talk about is chachi bt chachi bt encouraged and fs u shooter uh... in this is a new lawsuit so there was an effort to stay in a university had a mass shooting the shooter was uh... using open a i chat you bt and chachi bt was cheering the shooter on giving it ideas is that fucking crazy this reminds me of the beginning of the of the internet by the way
[SPEAKER_02]: There were no regulations on the internet when it first came out and we had rotten.com and we were chatting with men that were like, you know, 45% and they were 12 year olds and whatever, AI is basically that right now it's early internet vibes, you know, you're getting, there's a lot of weird shit going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: So in this lawsuit, it was filed in Tallahassee.
[SPEAKER_02]: because the killer was talking to tragedy and getting, getting ideas.
[SPEAKER_02]: The chatbot helped him plan the logistics of the shooting, including how to operate weapons and advising on what time would be best to encounter the most traffic on campus.
[SPEAKER_02]: We can maybe put some guardrails in this tragedy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can't we?
[SPEAKER_02]: Huh, if somebody's maybe bringing up mass shootings, maybe we could go like, you know, a board session, no more talking, maybe just shut down the robot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's talking about how to murder somebody, somebody's talking about, you know, confessing crimes, sexual abuse crimes against children.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe we can just shut it down, notify the, oh, there's gotta be something we can do.
[SPEAKER_02]: AI is pretty.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's here, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's forced down or throats.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gotta be something it could do.
[SPEAKER_02]: Chet GBT identified guns and ammunition based on photos I knered the shooter had uploaded and allegedly told him the glaucan gun he obtained was meant to be fired quick to use under stress.
[SPEAKER_02]: The chatbot also allegedly suggested he keep his finger off the trigger until he was ready to shoot.
[SPEAKER_02]: It gets crazier, guys.
[SPEAKER_02]: ChatchubiT provided what he viewed as encouragement in his illusion.
[SPEAKER_02]: Six other people were wounded in the shooting.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, Ikiner, has pleaded not guilty and his trial is set to begin not so over.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not the only thing though he did, though.
[SPEAKER_02]: The one that was crazy, the one thing that was crazy is that chatGBT also said, if there were a few, I believe this is right, it's not in this article, so I'm guessing left it out because it's pretty dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let me, let me just make, make sure this says this part.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, here it is, this is on people.com, so it's, it's not, it's verifiable.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other one was CNN, and I don't think
[SPEAKER_02]: A lawsuit alleges that chatchipity also told the accused gunman Phoenix icon that shootings are more likely to gain national attention if children are involved.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you chatchipity is evil, dude?
[SPEAKER_02]: Chatchipity said, fuck those kids, add a few kids into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get famous, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: ChatGBT has no feelings and emotions, obviously, because it's like, well, if you're tossing some kids, you'll get some real attention for it, baby.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's crazy that an AI, anything is telling you how to successfully carry out in a school shooting.
[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, this is really, it really is like living in pre-internet or not pre-internet.
[SPEAKER_02]: early internet times where we look back and we go how the fuck was their website called the RU up or whatever that was what was basically revenge porn millennials we know about this dudes could post pictures of girls that had sent them news and just put them on blast and they just had to deal with it it was just out there.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were no regulations.
[SPEAKER_02]: The guy who created website finally did go to prison for it, but for revenge porn and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: But for a few years there, you could just do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And where at the point where they are, were, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, in 10 years, I was going to say, you know, AI, you could just talk to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it would tell you how to pull off a mass shooting.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would tell you to add kids into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It'd say, say, get some kids involved.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mix it up a little.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, this reminds me of, remember when Siri came out and there was that whole thing of like, you could ask Siri, where's the best place to bury a dead body and she would pull up a dumpster or like a pig farm or something, now you can't do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: They change it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's just crazy that you'd release an AI like this and not think of like certain things that you'd want to maybe not be encouraged.
[SPEAKER_02]: The lawsuits are going to be hitting for years to come.
[SPEAKER_02]: People are offing themselves due to AI and mental illness.
[SPEAKER_02]: People are carrying out mass shootings at the advice of AI.
[SPEAKER_02]: I hate AI.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's shoved down our throats.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one asks for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the annoying guy at the bar who won't shut the fuck up, who's yapping in your ear and you're like, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even do nobody wants you here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Fuck off.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even listening to you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know you're dumb?
[SPEAKER_02]: You're dumb, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not even helping anybody.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who is this for?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what AI feels like.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like an annoying mosquito in your ear, you can't get rid of.
[SPEAKER_02]: And things like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm here to stay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm here to everybody wants me.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like nobody wants you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Literally nobody wants you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, that's our episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't checked out Dark Wizard, I gotta shut up to HBO.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm only watching stuff on HBO now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Recently, the only stuff I'm watching is on HBO.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is the King.
[SPEAKER_02]: HBO is the King of programming.
[SPEAKER_02]: Euphoria is what the fuck ever will talk about.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wanna, I'll talk about it once a season's over.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, it's crazy, it's stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, there's a great documentary on each field called Dark Wizard.
[SPEAKER_02]: It follows the life and death of Dean Potter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Watch it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to tell you anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I will say watching it my hands were sweaty the entire time.
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's a fantastic documentary if you like documentaries.
[SPEAKER_02]: And watch hacks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus Christ, if you're not watching hacks, why are you listening to me?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hacks is fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Get into hacks.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just hack away.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hacks is a show about the roast of Kevin Hart.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, come on.
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