[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, welcome to the show.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're so glad you're here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey guys, we are coming to you from Pigeon, Forge Tennessee.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've just got done at the teach them diligently home schooling conference.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to be headed home.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're so looking forward to be home with all our kids, but we had a wonderful time.
[SPEAKER_00]: What a incredible time.
[SPEAKER_00]: So much ministry happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was incredible.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to share something kind of fun with you if you're watching our YouTube channel, which many of you might be first time listeners now.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got to meet many people who had not heard of the courageous parenting podcast while we were at the conference, which was exciting, but we also got to connect with people who had been long time listeners.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think in some of the workshops there were women who had been listening for seven years, which is basically from the beginning.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so that was exciting and we were so blessed to connect with those families and so we're not, you know, in good old fashion, courageous parenting style, we're not going to miss a week of the podcast, this episode is going to be coming out on Tuesday and so we're sitting here with our suitcase in our hotel room and it's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, this is going to be a great episode because we're going to give you a few of the highlights from the six talks we gave and it's just it was such an incredible experience to give back to to impact and we met so many wonderful people at the table and close to 200 people joined our lunch team at the conference and lots of people got the book before it's released June 2nd
[SPEAKER_00]: If you want that same opportunity, join us in Branson, Missouri at the Teaching Diligent in the Conference.
[SPEAKER_00]: You can go to the full conference or you could just go to the Tratio part and come see us, you can get the book and all that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we really look forward to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this episode, we're going to talk about four different things that I think are going to help men really a lot and help women a lot as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: that's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we were super blessed to be able to come to teach them diligently.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you haven't heard about teach them diligently, it is one of the largest Christian homeschooling conferences in the nation in the United States and this year they're in Pigeon Forge, Tennessee, and Branson, Missouri.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this next week we'll be flying out on Wednesday again and headed to Branson, Missouri for
[SPEAKER_02]: another trip.
[SPEAKER_02]: We had such a great time because we have to bring our son Ethan.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's 15 and half years old.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you come and you see him at the booth, please say hi to him.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just really cool to be able to spend that time.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's getting some experience.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well hey, it was just Mother's Day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well it is today right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: When you're listening to it, it's just after Mother's Day.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so, Angie, why don't we kick it off with some of the hormones?
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, one of the things that has been on my heart for the past three years is this specific scripture and second Corinthians chapter five.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've probably heard us mention it a few times in podcasts where we've just gone over the little, it's a itty bitty pieces, but this weekend and next weekend I'm going to be speaking on two topics.
[SPEAKER_02]: One is teaching a
[SPEAKER_02]: or cultivating a teachable heart, and the other one is the Titus II legacy strengthening the mother daughter bond.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what, whenever you're getting ready to teach anything, God allows you to walk through something that's going to be saying to file something that's going to be sanctified.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's for his glory.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes he has a lesson for you to learn for you because of course he died on the cross for us and he would have died on the cross just
[SPEAKER_02]: But one of the things that I always ask myself is Lord, what do you have to teach me in this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And then after I learn that, I say, okay, Lord, I want to show you how much that means to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to share this with other people because I know I'm not alone.
[SPEAKER_02]: It would be the devil's lie to believe that we're alone and that we're the only person in the world that is ever sinned or we're the only person in the world that's ever struggled with pride or selfishness or defending ourselves or self-preservation, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Which is actually those are the things that God really refined in me, and so I I got to share that testimony in one of the talks, and then just briefly part of that in the other talk that I had given to the moms and I'm telling you God was moving the Holy Spirit was moving among those women.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had so many people either come up to me right after the talk and just want they
[SPEAKER_02]: with tears, wanting to say, I have gone through this myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for sharing that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm super convicted, and then I got to pray over them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Coming to the table, women who they had heard that talk, and then there's just sitting in their head for a day, or two days, right, because we're there Wednesday, or we get in on Wednesday, but the conference starts Thursday.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're speaking on Thursday, and then there's Friday, and then there's Saturday, and some of the women who came to the table on Saturday,
[SPEAKER_02]: It took them three days, they had heard that first talk on Thursday, and they were like, I'm realizing that that applies to me and my sister, that applies to me and my mother, that applies to me and my daughter.
[SPEAKER_00]: What is it though?
[SPEAKER_02]: Just this concept of humility and needing to recognize that if there's relational terror, it's a two-way street, relationships are a two-way street, and there's always sin on both sides because that's how it works, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, but why is it that we as moms?
[SPEAKER_00]: We just want to take a moment and talk about the launch team.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is so important.
[SPEAKER_00]: We believe that this book is going to have a massive impact, and can't have a massive impact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need people to come alongside and go, hey, I believe in what you're doing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe in this resource, this guidebook for parents.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do this together.
[SPEAKER_00]: We need your help and we look forward to it.
[SPEAKER_02]: get so defensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even think it's necessarily moms.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just humanity.
[SPEAKER_02]: We get defensive.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard for us to acknowledge the ways that we fail our kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we were able to dive into that and I shared that the testimony and what God taught me in that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm gonna save that for the Branson Missouri Conference because some of you all might be listening, but I just was so encouraged by how many people were willing to take that teaching.
[SPEAKER_02]: and be self-examining and apply it to themselves.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then to take it a step further, like I was doing with them by being vulnerable, throwing myself under the bus and sharing the hard ugliness that was inside my heart and sharing with them the fruit that came from it and the reconciliation that came from it with my own child and and then for them to come to the booth and admit it to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that's turning it around and doing it right.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm gonna read to you guys from second Corinthians chapter five.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then Isaac's going to share some stuff for the guys and one of his talks that he did, which obviously I wasn't there, but we had so many men coming to the booth that were just lives.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was amazing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So here we are in second Corinthians chapter five.
[SPEAKER_02]: Verse 11, it talks about the Ministry of Reconciliation says therefore knowing the fear of the Lord.
[SPEAKER_02]: we persuade others.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what we are is known to God, and I hope it is known also to your conscience.
[SPEAKER_02]: We are not commending ourselves to you again, but giving you cause to boast about us.
[SPEAKER_02]: So that you may be able to answer those who boast
[SPEAKER_02]: about outward appearance and not about what is in the heart.
[SPEAKER_02]: For if we are beside ourselves, it is for God.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we are in our right mind, it is for you.
[SPEAKER_02]: For the love of Christ controls us because we have concluded this, that one has died for all, therefore all have died.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he died for all, that those who live might no longer live for themselves, but for him, who for their sake died and was raised.
[SPEAKER_02]: From now on, therefore we regard no one according to the flesh.
[SPEAKER_02]: No one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though we were once regarded Christ according to the flesh, we regard him thus no longer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, if anyone has in Christ he is a new creation, the old has passed away behold the new has come, and all this is from God who through Christ reconciled us to Himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is, in Christ, God was reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation.
[SPEAKER_02]: Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ.
[SPEAKER_02]: God, making His appeal through us, we implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God, for our sake He made Him to be sin, who knew no sin, so that in Him we might become the righteousness of God.
[SPEAKER_02]: This scripture, I wish I would have had so much more time in the session, to be able to break this down.
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the cool things that we were able to do, we have this motherhood as my ministry hat.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've had it for a year, year and a half.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have it on the website in a really cool, coderoy blue color too, but we have this awesome new mustard yellow.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have two different caps.
[SPEAKER_02]: The other one is in this cap, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: The one is exploring Richardson hat.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is also a Richardson hat as well, but um,
[SPEAKER_02]: This is a six panel baseball cap, and it has motherhood as my ministry embroidered on it, and on the side, every single one of our hats has a different verse, and this one is second Corinthians 5, 18 through 20, which is the whole exhortation as motherhood is my ministry.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have been given the ministry of reconciliation.
[SPEAKER_02]: And for us to remember and to put on the armor, like the reason why I love that we have hats is because in Ephesians 6, God gives us the armor of God.
[SPEAKER_02]: He gave it to us as a gift to help us remember that we need to be praying with all supplication and requests.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to be alert.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to be sober-minded.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is an enemy.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is an attack on family.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's an attack on marriage.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's an attack on you as a Christ follower.
[SPEAKER_02]: Satan tempted Jesus right after he was baptized.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a big deal.
[SPEAKER_02]: We need to be aware of that Recognizing that we we have to put on the armor so like for me when I put on a hat this has specifically I think to myself
[SPEAKER_02]: ministry of reconciliation.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my ministry.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's my job.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so when I'm raising my kids, I need to be an ambassador for God and allow him to make his appeal of reconciliation through me.
[SPEAKER_02]: When my kids are fighting, I'm called to mediate and help them to be reconciled to one another, which then also taking them to reconciled to God to repent to Him so that they're closer in
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, what I spoke on at the conference was about how there was conflict in my relationship with one of my kids and how we needed reconciliation.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so important to operate in the humility, and sometimes that can be hard when it's your own children, because in their lifetime, you've probably been right a lot, actually, because as a parent, you're guiding them, but as they get older, you might be not right as much.
[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, you might need to humble yourself and actually apologize for things, and I think that's important.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it models how we're to operate in life.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it's hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably hard.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is hard because it's easy to get defensive when you think you know kind of most things about your child or maybe everything about your child.
[SPEAKER_00]: And but as they get older, you don't actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they don't know necessarily everything about you either because as
[SPEAKER_02]: humans were always growing.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're always being sanctified as we are seeking the Lord.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you have to, if you're growing and you're pursuing spiritual growth consistently, and you've raised your child to also do the same, then you must assume that they are always still growing also.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so both of you have to operate in that grace.
[SPEAKER_02]: Man, I wish I would have said that in the talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wish you would have said that in my talk.
[SPEAKER_02]: because that's just a part of it that is true in all relationships.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's easy to label one another, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And not to allow each other to actually grow and then we're that lid in the relationship, not allowing each other to grow and change.
[SPEAKER_02]: We talk about this on a regular basis, even in the parenting mentor program, and actually in the book, we talk about ageism.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of the topics in sibling relationships, and trying to teach your kids that like, no, they have grown.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't just look at them as that six-year-old little boy that was having a hard time with being a poor loser on a board game or whatever it was, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, they grow, and they learn, they're being sanctified just like they were.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's so, it's so, yeah, that's a good message.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was in the talk, but I wasn't up on stage,
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you were helping me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so, but hey, for the men, I give a talk to the men's breakfast.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one an honor to be able to do that, and there's about a hundred men showed up at seven in the morning to breakfast in here at talk, and that was really cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I gave him the three W's.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was talking about it some person at times, and there's really three buckets, I think, men are landing him right now, and one is they're watching.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the second one is they're wondering.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the wondering bucket and the third one is they're winning.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so which bucket do you want to be in?
[SPEAKER_00]: Which one are you in?
[SPEAKER_00]: Which how do you need to move yourself to a better bucket?
[SPEAKER_00]: And the watching, those people are passive.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they're in a state of passivity.
[SPEAKER_00]: They may not always be passive, but in the state of watching what's happening and not taking action, maybe they're watching the challenges in their home, but they're not taking action.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're watching the challenges in their marriage and they're not taking action.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're watching the challenges in the world And they're not taking actions to make sure they may be they have three sources of revenue coming in which is another tip I gave them And these kinds of things these in these times and there's a lot of opportunity and these times to incredible opportunity So just looking at things correctly
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's, that's, that's passive way to reject the passivity, and the, and the, and the second W is wondering, and that's fearful, and the Bible says not to fear, and one way or another about 300 times, and we're only to fear God in a different kind of fear of reverence for him who he is, and so that's really important, are you in that wondering space of what do I do, you know, kind of in a fearful way, I don't know what to do, things are changing around me, and
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe my job's going to be gone in a few years because of AI or whatever the case may be and you're you're in this wondering phase and that's a dangerous place to be because fear and most decisions made in fear about decisions in fact you can make the same decision and fear same to so it makes another same decision and not fear it's going to play out far differently because all the communication all the mindset stuff in that decision for the fearful person is going to mess them up and the person made the same decision in a strong confident wise.
[SPEAKER_00]: choice.
[SPEAKER_00]: If they're going to operate in a whole different way, that's going to lead them to more success.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's really important.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you have watching, you have wandering, and then you have winning.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we all want to be winning.
[SPEAKER_00]: But winning is taking action in God's will.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you can only take action in God's will if you're close to God.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, that's the challenge.
[SPEAKER_00]: So many of us can operate in our own flesh.
[SPEAKER_00]: We've done that before and we've
[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it looks like we've won before doing that, but is it real winning?
[SPEAKER_00]: Is your family winning?
[SPEAKER_00]: Are you able to see what's coming before it happens because the Holy Spirit's giving you convictions?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because you're drawing close to the Lord so that you can make decisions Proactively not reactively and win in a much better way and so anyways I just encourage you all to be in that winning category because you're drawing close to the Lord You know his will is and you're taking action in that direction
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so one of the things that is really powerful is in this book, we've chosen 31 topics that we think are the, I don't know, the most relevant issues to parenting today.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's courageous parenting, biblical parenting and unprecedented times.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that one of the things that we have noticed just in the conversations with people during the conferences, when we go through this, it's like, yeah, okay, there's these 31 topics.
[SPEAKER_02]: So technically, you could get through it like in a month if you wanted to, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: You could do one chapter a day.
[SPEAKER_02]: At the end of every chapter, there's parenting questions for self-examination.
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the chapters also have questions to ask your kids, which is pretty cool, because it's also important that we are operating as believers being able to hear
[SPEAKER_02]: exhortation from one another.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that is actually at the, that is at the foundation of the issue that I even had recently is that, you know, when you're raising your kids, you're teaching them verses like children obey your parents in the Lord for this is right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And honor your father and mother, which is the first commandment with the promise, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And over and over again, you're training your children in the more children that you have, the more you did those verses are coming out of your mouth.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so for us with nine kids,
[SPEAKER_02]: We've definitely, the kids have probably heard that on repeat a lot in their life.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've definitely memorized those scriptures.
[SPEAKER_02]: They know the importance of being respectful and not being sassy.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're held accountable when they're being sassy.
[SPEAKER_02]: But here's the deal, when you have 17 years or 18 years or 20 years or 22 years experience living with someone who has
[SPEAKER_02]: potentially struggled with their flesh and they've been sassy a few times and you've said that many times.
[SPEAKER_02]: Something has happened to that relationship where it's been trained to wear the child even when they start becoming an adult.
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't feel comfortable to come and exhort you with.
[SPEAKER_02]: constructive criticism in a sense, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or it's hard for them to say, hey, we're in conflict.
[SPEAKER_02]: You offended me, or this really hurt my feelings, or I feel like I was unsupported in this way.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that that's one of the things we have to realize as parents is that yes, your kids do need to honor you, but coming to you and shining a little light on a spotlight of
[SPEAKER_02]: Sin that could have been a blind spot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, let's just be honest in marriage.
[SPEAKER_02]: We see each other's blind spots better than anybody else, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And the same is true for our children.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's why we are supposed to be more spiritually mature and correcting our kids.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's the same thing in marriage, too, though.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like we can get these warm patterns that, you know, yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to take things from each other as well.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it could be the same challenge.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think at the end of the day what I'm what I'm even thinking about today because I'm still I'm one of those people that I'm like still constantly thinking about it and wanting to make sure I'm learning all the things I have to learn because I believe you can learn things that easy way or the hard way and I'd really rather learn things that easy way because hard is just well it's hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to be in conflict with people I don't like conflict I don't think anybody does.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't want to hurt people, nobody wants to hurt people, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just think that there is this element of like really digging in and wanting to know your own blind spots so that you can grow relationally so you can have better relationships with other people.
[SPEAKER_02]: And one of those things is setting aside your pride and being willing to hear those things, but also inviting your children, especially as they get older, to speak truth in those things, and to be able to share with you, yeah, like I don't really
[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of feel like I can never measure up, or I kind of feel like I'm not this, or and I think that sometimes kids get too scared to say those things to their parents, which is super sad, because we should have open communication.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I love that the book has courageous parenting questions to ask your kids, because it opens up that door to be able to have those kinds of conversations where
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're practicing asking your child and then you have to listen and take it, which is a good thing to train yourself in so that you can have closer relationships when you're older.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like a guidebook with your tools in it, you know, one of the tools that I think it's really powerful is getting your marriage aligned on your biblical parenting plan.
[SPEAKER_00]: So when people read this, they're literally going to realize there's holes in their biblical parenting plan and they need to fill those up, especially in unprecedented times.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, but if one spouse is reading it, it can become challenging because then they come to them and go, this, this, this, this, this, this and then the other person hasn't read it and maybe isn't on the same page at that moment.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that can create conflict.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we put marriage challenges and marriage questions in there to stir up the right conversations.
[SPEAKER_00]: to get marriages in alignment.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had so many, we had to quite a few marriages where they both bought the book, so we could go through it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was surprising, I think there was a lot of people who wanted to create small groups in the churches using this, and these has things which are pretty cool too.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's interesting, as we were sharing about what is in the book, because people would come up and the people who had never heard of a sort of Curtis talk about the book, they were like, so tell me about your book, like, just tell me about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why is this different, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And so going through it and saying, okay, well, we have 31 really relevant topics here.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are, and I just like pick like three or four different ones.
[SPEAKER_02]: One was on AI, which is what you gave one of your talks on at the conference, and you'll be speaking on it again in Branson.
[SPEAKER_02]: And people are like, oh, really?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, well, yeah, I mean, this is a relevant issue and it's gonna rapidly change the world that we're in in the next three to five years, big time.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's like, yeah, if you're launching kids, if you're like, home school parents, we need to not be isolationists.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we talk about this in the parenting mentor program.
[SPEAKER_02]: When your isolationists, you're not actually operating in a way where you're equipping your children for the real world.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's interesting when I gave that talk, it was a big room, and it was full.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it wasn't full because Isaac Tolpen was giving it.
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of people didn't know who I was.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was full because of the topic, and I was just like, whoa, this is a hot topic and what was really interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: We had all different kinds of Christians in the room, including a whole row of omnisch parents.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was really, and they loved it afterwards, by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: We have to say this, they were the last ones there and they talked to me for a while.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's funny because they would come up to the team and be like, you had a lot of people think that we don't wanna know about the stuff we need and know, thank you for sharing, you know?
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, I love that heart attitude.
[SPEAKER_02]: So teachable, so I don't wanna know.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, I think the way the title was, people thought it was about what are the jobs we should put our kids on track for that are the most resistant to AI essentially.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the talk was a little bit about that, but it was more actually,
[SPEAKER_00]: about the fact that there are no jobs that AI is not going to touch.
[SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, and why it's important to actually at the right age, and appropriately start teaching our children how to use AI tools responsibly, and never to take away from the art, put to accelerate their creativity in their art.
[SPEAKER_00]: and there's a lot of amazing things that can happen if we look at this correctly but we're responsible.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of dangerous things that can happen if we look at this the wrong way and don't create boundaries with our kids that our children actually adopt.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so a tip I want to give you, there's so much more than to talk about a tip I want to give you.
[SPEAKER_00]: is it's really important, regardless of where you stand on the AI issue, that you create creative confidence in your children.
[SPEAKER_00]: They must be confident in the gifts God has given them, at a young age and growing confidence as they go into the teenagers.
[SPEAKER_00]: If you don't do that well, they will just assume they're not good at things they probably really are good at and never
[SPEAKER_00]: and AI will let AI start replacing that for them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that is a travesty.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, it's interesting because we were just talking about different couples with different, you know, desires for growth and different things so you had a whole bunch of people who came to the AI workshop and then later they came to the table and they're like, okay, tell me about the book I'm in right, does he talk about this in the book and we're like actually we have a chapter on social media and technology and then we have a different chapter that's just dedicated to AI out of the 31 chapters and then of course there's a chapter in discipline, there's a chapter on obedience, there's a chapter on
[SPEAKER_02]: discipleship, there's a chapter on how to cultivate a teachable heart, which was one of the talks that I gave at the conference.
[SPEAKER_02]: But what's awesome, I actually read through that and everything in the book is totally different than what I was speaking on.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, and that brings up another topic, which one of the things I love the most about this book and how couples can actually go through this and make it a longer, like, year-long thing that they could potentially be growing in at the end of every single chapter.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, 31 chapters.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have another section underneath the parenting questions, the questions to ask your kids, which is in some of the chapters.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's a section that's a courageous parenting challenge that gets the parents to implement what we have just talked about, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like open your Bible, teach your kids about the specific topic here, some verses to read with them, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Or different things like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: and then it goes into courageous parenting podcast episodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we usually have between two and six different podcast episodes with the episode number.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's easy for people to find so that they can have a bigger teaching that goes along with that one chapter.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you have small groups,
[SPEAKER_02]: Getting together and they could watch one of the YouTube videos the podcast and they could discuss it They could use the questions that aren't here the parenting questions on right yourself all the things or They could watch if there's some of the weeks.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's like six podcast episodes So if you had six couples in your group you could each watch a different YouTube Yeah, all come back and Regurgitate what you learned about it and how to apply to that specific chapter.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and so imagine
[SPEAKER_02]: families trying to walk in biblical community wanting to be parenting in alignment with the people they go to church with because that's one of the biggest things that causes division today because churches are not equipping parents in biblical parenting.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a bandwidth thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've got so many other programs, the thought of,
[SPEAKER_02]: even trying to add another one's hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, a lot of church leadership struggles with feeling qualified to be able to teach it, not knowing where to begin with it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're trying to bridge that gap.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the parenting podcast is about.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what the parenting mentor program has been doing for the last seven years.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have had churches.
[SPEAKER_02]: come back and go through it second and a third time with groups.
[SPEAKER_02]: All different denominations, and then we also have the book now, which makes it even easier for people to lead a study through it and to be able to use these other tools.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then after the courageous parenting podcast, we have prayers.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like this specific chapter, which is chapter three, it has a prayer for moms and a prayer for dads, but most of the chapters just have a prayer for parents.
[SPEAKER_02]: This specific chapter was on biblical gender roles, and so which obviously because there's so much gender confusion in the world today That had to be a topic in the book.
[SPEAKER_00]: So let's go to we gave two messages together courageous marriage And that was really fun and then we gave courageous parenting That was in the main session
[SPEAKER_00]: uh uh with everybody and those were really fun to do.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think on the courageous parenting one, we talked about one of our culture driving statements in the talk.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to share that answer?
[SPEAKER_02]: Are you trying about the Eagles, the Seagulls?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is definitely something that's been kind of a family initiative.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's interesting how when you focus on like a phrase one year it kind of becomes a theme throughout the rest of your parenting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Especially when it is something that's so catchy, like Seagulls not Seagulls.
[SPEAKER_02]: But this whole concept is basically that Seagulls are the type of birds that are scavengers.
[SPEAKER_02]: They eat anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: They will attack a picnic like no tomorrow, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're honestly kind of annoying little birds.
[SPEAKER_02]: They just kind of, they, they're aimless.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have a, they aren't purposeful and how they're hunting.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're just eating whatever is available.
[SPEAKER_02]: and they're fighting each other for the food.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you've ever seen a flock of seagulls on the beach, but they're at each other, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And they swarm and they just, it's like, it's a whole thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: But then you've got the eagles on the other hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: And the eagles, they're actually very choosy in what they eat and what they feed their young.
[SPEAKER_02]: They go hunting strategically and they go for the fresh salmon.
[SPEAKER_02]: they're like majestic creatures, but oftentimes they're not hanging out with other Eagles other than their own.
[SPEAKER_02]: They oftentimes are flying alone, if you will.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that one of the things that has been hard as a courageous biblical parent today has been those seasons when we were flying, it was like being a salmon swim in upstream when all the other salmon are swimming the other way, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like being that eagle where you can feel alone at times, and I think that when we're raising our kids to stand firm, to be equipped, to be different, to be willing, to be persecuted, they're going to be times where they are going to feel alone.
[SPEAKER_02]: And as parents, yes, we want our children to understand the full gospel.
[SPEAKER_02]: We want them to know the Lord.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is our main ministry with our kids.
[SPEAKER_02]: But if we are part of equipping them for unprecedented times, is equipping them in the reality that they will be persecuted.
[SPEAKER_02]: They will suffer for Christ's namesake.
[SPEAKER_02]: They will actually experience hardship.
[SPEAKER_02]: They may even be fired one day because they're a Christian, and they won't give in and do the things that the people that are working they're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we have to prepare our children to be able to stand firm.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not gonna just stand firm if we are just sugar coating it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And all being a Christian is so wonderful.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of these blessings and it is an amazing adventure.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what the real adventure is?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is when you experience those hard things and you experience God right by your side, holding your hand, comforting you.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're growing stronger in your identity of Christ as your experience adversity.
[SPEAKER_02]: And that truly is the walk of a I don't want to say a real Christian, but it's like the word Christian just doesn't mean the same today right we've got nominal Christians.
[SPEAKER_02]: We even have cults that call themselves Christians and so it's like no a biblical Christian will experience opposition and adversity and persecution and so you know this whole Eagles versus Seagulls was this it was our attempt to try to prepare the kids for the reality of the world before our oldest went to college and
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really a stand for a message.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really a bee loving, but don't ever fall into wrong thinking, wrong way where it is and so forth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Instead lead your environments and so forth, which is really important.
[SPEAKER_00]: So right here, we have the stand for him hat.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what was really interesting is we have forehats, brand new hats never been sold before, really quality.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they got versus on them and this month's school is holy work.
[SPEAKER_02]: It has to be men.
[SPEAKER_00]: The men out about the women at first that these sold out they sold out by the first.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Thursday night where the book is only open for two hours.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm like we sold them that night to seven
[SPEAKER_02]: And then we sold out the first night, and we were literally dumbfounded.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're like, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I get it because this has been one of your favorite hats for years.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we just we switched our hat our hat over to a local company in the mountains of Idaho.
[SPEAKER_02]: We live in a tiny little hometown that has been.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or she banned in the thousand people.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Little company and horseshoe band doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: The best job we've ever seen.
[SPEAKER_02]: We wanted to support something that was local.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's much better than doing like print on demand type of the thing because the quality is so much better.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we have these Richard Sinhats, which are awesome, and we get this stand for Matt and it sells out, but really this stand for him goes along with this message of Eagles vs. Seagulls.
[SPEAKER_02]: because it's about equipping your kids to stand firm in the midst of adversity, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, but that takes for guys, like you had this message during the marriage talk where you went on and on and on about pastivity and being resolute.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so we also sold a lot of our B-resolute shirts at the conference, which was really cool to see guys wearing those.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just got these rebunded.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're upgraded to a nicer fabric.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a scripture on it now, so it's obviously
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, it's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was wearing it yesterday
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm actually wearing one of our shirts from the conference also.
[SPEAKER_02]: We made a new one.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says home school mom and it has some 127 for raising arrows on it with a a P&E because P&E every woman loves P&E's and all yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yes, we are promoting some of the new things.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're excited one to it helps us to be able to actually launch the book.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do all that there's a lot of expenses involved in everything.
[SPEAKER_00]: So whenever someone buys something, it's like it's raising your hand saying, hey, I'm supporting that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want you guys to get this out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe in the 10 million legacies movement.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on board.
[SPEAKER_00]: And when you just sign up for the launch team, which we hope everybody does for the book, you know, the DreamSecond launches, you're saying, hey, I believe in this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want more people to have this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I want this to just massively transform legacies around the world.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the mentality.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you guys can find out more about our merch at the shop, becragismindustry.org.
[SPEAKER_02]: We, when we get home today, Lord willing, be praying for us.
[SPEAKER_02]: When we get home, our goal is to take some of our merch to our distributor so that it can be available by the end of the week.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so if it's not on the website yet, it's coming.
[SPEAKER_02]: But we have some rad new.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have the Raising Disciples Hat, which the guys and the gals both loved.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love this font.
[SPEAKER_02]: I picked out this font.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so cute.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it has a Psalm 127 for on it, but you know what?
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the last verses that I just wanted to share with you, which is always a theme at home school conference.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's due to ouronomy chapter six.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we did reference it a few times in some of our talks.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, specifically how to cultivate a teachable heart because that specific episode.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't tell you how many moms came up to me and said when you said that one of the most common comments is I don't want to homeschool my kids because we butt heads.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like that's me.
[SPEAKER_02]: like there's it will be too hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: They might not listen to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: They don't respect me enough to learn from me.
[SPEAKER_02]: All these all these fears, all these issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes there are lying your head.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sometimes it is actually a heart posture issue that your child is struggling with.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is a sinful heart, a sinful heart issue that you need to dig in with.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I, in the talk, I'm not going to share it all because I want to, I want to leave that for Branson, but in the talk, there's two main reasons why that could be an issue.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I went over those two issues and then I talked about this call to do to around me chapter six.
[SPEAKER_02]: But one of the things that just hit me after reading second Corinthians chapter five and now being here at the very beginning of both of these chapters is a theme that we talked about in the very last keynote session, courageous parenting.
[SPEAKER_02]: and it was why parents are struggling with being fear-based parents in this world because are where what's going on and they're scared to have more kids and they're scared scared scared scared there's things that they're scared of and it's like that is kryptonite to parents and the antidote for that is the fear of the Lord so listen to this and dooderonomy six says now this is the commandment the statutes and rules that the Lord your God commanded me to teach you
[SPEAKER_02]: that you may do them in the land to which you are going over to possess it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That you may fear the Lord, your God, you and your Son, and your Son's Son.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is even like purposeful grandparenting here.
[SPEAKER_02]: You, your Son, and your Son's Son.
[SPEAKER_02]: by keeping all his statutes and his commandments which I command you all the days of your life and that your days may be long.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here therefore, O Israel and be careful to do them that it may go well with you and that you may multiply greatly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Listen to that.
[SPEAKER_02]: You may multiply greatly.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is God's best blessing.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's said over and over again that the children are heritage.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are fruit of the womb as a reward.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're like all of branches around your table.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is the best gift God can give us, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: And here he is saying that your days may be long.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, I just want to bring this up.
[SPEAKER_02]: If you scooch down to verse seven, it says, in well, in verse five, you shall love the Lord.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your might.
[SPEAKER_02]: And these words that I command you today shall be on your heart and you shall teach them diligently to your children and shall talk of them when you sit in your house and when you walk by the way and when you lie down and when you rise.
[SPEAKER_02]: You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes, and you shall write them on the doorpost of your house and on your gates.
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is the call for us to recognize that all the time we are with our kids, we are teaching them.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is an opportunity for us to point back to the Lord over and over and over again, but it started out with the fear of the Lord.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when you go back to the second Corinthians chapter 5, it's at the very beginning.
[SPEAKER_02]: It says, therefore, knowing the fear of the Lord, we persuade others.
[SPEAKER_02]: Over and over again, the Bible in the Old Testament and the New Testament is saying, in the fear of the Lord do this, because of the fear of the Lord do this, and that's one of the things that's just not taught today is the fear of the Lord and reverence for God.
[SPEAKER_02]: True reverence.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so here's a couple of things going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: So first of all, come see us in Branson, Missouri.
[SPEAKER_00]: May 13th through 17th.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're looking forward to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be giving these talks again there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Most of them.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have our booth in Come see us at the booth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Say hi.
[SPEAKER_00]: We would love to we have Limit Supply, the book counter's June 2nd, and we had some extra shift to Branson, Missouri, to be there for us.
[SPEAKER_00]: and then we'll sign it and we'll get a picture if you want and those kinds of things and you can also sign up for the launching but everybody can sign up for the launching whether you're at the conference or not just go to courageousparenting.com all the show notes are there and there's a link and there's a forum and you can sign up for the launch team.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be communicating with the launch team very soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be, we're going to give 298 dollars and free courses away, it was going to be some some live stuff that you can come to if you want.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to give as much value as possible.
[SPEAKER_00]: The only ask really is buy it on the June 2nd, give a review and share it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to do more than that great, but that's the minimum that we're asking for.
[SPEAKER_00]: and the June 2nd is coming soon.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're super excited about that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Get the book early.
[SPEAKER_00]: Come see us.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which would be great.
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, if we just saw you as the conference and you're listening to this, would you share it with your friends?
[SPEAKER_00]: This episode is a share-craced parenting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also if their near-brands and Missouri encouraged them to come to the conference, the whole conference is great, but it would be also great to sit to meet them too.
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