WEBVTT 00:00.031 --> 00:10.733 [SPEAKER_00]: This episode of True's Table is brought to you by our NAACP Image Award-nominated book, True's Table, Black Women's Musings on Life, Love, and Liberation. 00:11.174 --> 00:15.643 [SPEAKER_00]: Get it where all books are sold. 00:16.130 --> 00:17.492 [SPEAKER_02]: Brothers, y'all all right? 00:17.892 --> 00:21.117 [SPEAKER_02]: If this is your first time at Truth's Table, welcome to the table. 00:21.357 --> 00:23.841 [SPEAKER_02]: And you've been sitting at the table with us all these years. 00:24.141 --> 00:33.815 [SPEAKER_02]: We are so grateful that you have been listening to us through these years, and we are inviting you to partner with us and support our work at patreon.com slash Truth's Table. 00:34.115 --> 00:37.480 [SPEAKER_02]: Now pull up a chair and have a seat at the table with us. 00:37.460 --> 00:39.042 [SPEAKER_02]: Hey y'all, welcome to Truth Table. 00:39.102 --> 00:40.665 [SPEAKER_02]: May-Wise and Culture for Grace and Truth. 00:40.685 --> 00:42.387 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm the cabinet, and I'm Christina. 00:42.407 --> 00:44.911 [SPEAKER_02]: This table is the Bible Aquaman in four black women. 00:44.931 --> 00:45.853 [SPEAKER_02]: So welcome to the table. 00:45.873 --> 00:47.635 [SPEAKER_02]: See how you're doing, girl. 00:47.655 --> 00:48.577 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing good today. 00:48.797 --> 00:50.880 [SPEAKER_01]: Sit, sit, sit on my hot tea. 00:50.900 --> 00:54.285 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, just thinking about life's for message. 00:54.926 --> 00:58.251 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this mug says, love God, love neighbor. 00:58.291 --> 00:58.812 [SPEAKER_01]: Show the people. 00:59.313 --> 01:00.054 [SPEAKER_01]: Love God, I don't know. 01:00.134 --> 01:01.276 [SPEAKER_01]: I will turn around on the camera. 01:01.296 --> 01:03.940 [SPEAKER_01]: But love God, love neighbor, stop hating people. 01:04.139 --> 01:05.782 [SPEAKER_02]: Stop it. 01:05.922 --> 01:09.849 [SPEAKER_01]: That's not on the back of the mug, but it could be being stopped bad. 01:10.190 --> 01:10.811 [SPEAKER_02]: Love people. 01:11.111 --> 01:11.772 [SPEAKER_01]: It's a lie. 01:11.832 --> 01:12.734 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, people are a lot. 01:12.894 --> 01:13.796 [SPEAKER_01]: People are a lot. 01:14.056 --> 01:14.637 [SPEAKER_02]: They are. 01:14.657 --> 01:15.158 [SPEAKER_01]: I get it. 01:15.319 --> 01:16.901 [SPEAKER_02]: It is hard. 01:17.021 --> 01:17.562 [SPEAKER_01]: It's hard. 01:17.623 --> 01:24.575 [SPEAKER_01]: But like, there's really only one path for it because, you know, what have we not learned from Cain and Able? 01:24.615 --> 01:26.518 [SPEAKER_01]: You keep your brother or you kill your brother. 01:26.600 --> 01:27.041 [SPEAKER_01]: That's it. 01:27.662 --> 01:27.982 [SPEAKER_01]: Does it? 01:28.563 --> 01:29.225 [SPEAKER_01]: On that happy note. 01:29.245 --> 01:31.689 [SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep on that happy note. 01:31.709 --> 01:34.394 [SPEAKER_01]: How are you doing today at the table? 01:34.694 --> 01:34.854 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on. 01:34.874 --> 01:35.315 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on. 01:35.996 --> 01:36.417 [SPEAKER_01]: Come on. 01:36.477 --> 01:37.559 [SPEAKER_01]: Sparkling the ring. 01:38.280 --> 01:39.022 [SPEAKER_02]: They're very light. 01:39.042 --> 01:39.362 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 01:39.382 --> 01:41.185 [SPEAKER_01]: And I've got this whole Harry Potter dress. 01:41.306 --> 01:41.806 [SPEAKER_01]: Get up on. 01:42.107 --> 01:43.569 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 01:44.050 --> 01:44.471 [SPEAKER_01]: Interesting. 01:44.511 --> 01:47.917 [SPEAKER_02]: This is going to be a little Halloween possessed with orange and the black. 01:48.198 --> 01:49.921 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's so funny. 01:49.981 --> 01:50.802 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes. 01:50.782 --> 01:53.906 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was not intentional, but it was not, I love the color orange. 01:53.926 --> 01:54.927 [SPEAKER_01]: It is one of my favorite colors. 01:54.947 --> 01:57.750 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it is, it is the next color. 01:57.770 --> 01:58.150 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know. 01:58.170 --> 01:59.372 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't always get to wear it. 02:00.073 --> 02:00.553 [SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm. 02:00.573 --> 02:03.577 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but yeah, so the topic on the table though. 02:03.597 --> 02:04.177 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on now. 02:05.038 --> 02:05.278 [SPEAKER_02]: It is. 02:05.379 --> 02:05.959 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on now. 02:06.139 --> 02:07.101 [SPEAKER_02]: Two staples cooking. 02:07.361 --> 02:08.622 [SPEAKER_02]: Cooking, what we cooking? 02:08.642 --> 02:09.083 [SPEAKER_02]: I cook it. 02:09.603 --> 02:10.985 [SPEAKER_02]: Let's take cooking. 02:11.005 --> 02:11.966 [SPEAKER_01]: Sounds like a song. 02:11.986 --> 02:12.807 [SPEAKER_01]: So sweet. 02:12.787 --> 02:27.731 [SPEAKER_01]: We're not literally cooking what we literally decided to do an episode that talks about our actual projects like the things that we are doing apart from this podcast episode that you are watching. 02:28.292 --> 02:37.326 [SPEAKER_01]: We decided you know what people contact us and tell us you know can I come on and tell you about stuff I'm doing we're like we got a whole show let let let us tell you 02:37.306 --> 02:42.140 [SPEAKER_01]: I've always done that we are going on, so I don't know if people always know. 02:42.400 --> 02:52.328 [SPEAKER_01]: I guess I don't know, but maybe they don't know that this is not our main thing, this content, like we have other things that we do in the world. 02:52.308 --> 03:07.812 [SPEAKER_01]: And even as the truth table, as our team and organization, we have things that we do outside of the podcast content, although we're very grateful for the reach of the podcast, the influence of it and the listeners that have been rolling for years on and all that things. 03:08.313 --> 03:09.595 [SPEAKER_01]: But we have other projects going on. 03:09.615 --> 03:11.638 [SPEAKER_01]: So I thought it would be right, might be great to talk about that. 03:12.700 --> 03:15.244 [SPEAKER_01]: I would love for you to share with the people. 03:15.224 --> 03:17.247 [SPEAKER_01]: one of our most recent projects. 03:17.267 --> 03:22.714 [SPEAKER_01]: This is actually out right now that I think it's going to be a real blessing to folks. 03:22.914 --> 03:23.896 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes. 03:24.056 --> 03:27.821 [SPEAKER_02]: So, yes, true Saberino, we stay cooking y'all by God's grace. 03:28.963 --> 03:40.438 [SPEAKER_02]: So, while this time last year, we were actually in production for this new project, you know, that is now out in the world and get in the world, not in the world. 03:40.418 --> 03:42.381 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't get in and get out of the world. 03:42.621 --> 03:45.426 [SPEAKER_02]: We in the world, we're not up the world, we're true still. 03:46.467 --> 03:48.611 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, we in it, we're not, come on. 03:48.691 --> 03:56.503 [SPEAKER_02]: Get in the world, we're true's table video Bible study series in partnership with IVP and diversity. 03:57.084 --> 04:01.130 [SPEAKER_02]: Press who has been our partners throughout the many, many years, down through the years. 04:01.230 --> 04:01.971 [SPEAKER_02]: Come on now. 04:01.951 --> 04:07.779 [SPEAKER_02]: They have supported us and uplifted our work and partner with us on very, very many things. 04:07.799 --> 04:19.977 [SPEAKER_02]: This is a offshoot, I would say, of our second podcast, Get In The Word with Truths Table, which is a daily audio Bible podcast if you don't know now, you know. 04:19.957 --> 04:20.638 [SPEAKER_02]: come on. 04:20.658 --> 04:23.462 [SPEAKER_02]: Because every episode there's always a new listener, right? 04:24.103 --> 04:33.738 [SPEAKER_02]: So we can't assume that everybody knows all of the very new things that we do, but we have getting to where we're true stable, which has been going on for, oh, I think five years now, consistently. 04:33.758 --> 04:42.973 [SPEAKER_02]: So every day if you were to subscribe to that podcast, you would hear Christina and myself narrating the entire Bible on a daily basis. 04:43.173 --> 04:43.534 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 04:43.654 --> 04:44.816 [SPEAKER_02]: Old Testament New Testament. 04:44.896 --> 04:46.318 [SPEAKER_02]: How many years has that been out there? 04:46.298 --> 04:46.919 [SPEAKER_02]: There's about five. 04:47.059 --> 04:47.319 [SPEAKER_02]: Five. 04:47.400 --> 04:48.962 [SPEAKER_02]: That's about five. 04:49.002 --> 04:50.003 [SPEAKER_02]: Just about five years now. 04:50.023 --> 04:51.826 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, four, five years, you know. 04:52.507 --> 04:56.933 [SPEAKER_02]: And you get a little 20 minute episodes, you know, and you'll hear us narrating the Bible. 04:56.953 --> 04:58.555 [SPEAKER_02]: So definitely check that out. 04:58.575 --> 04:59.236 [SPEAKER_02]: That's all going. 04:59.256 --> 04:59.777 [SPEAKER_02]: We pray. 05:00.318 --> 05:01.640 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and we pray at the end. 05:01.660 --> 05:03.623 [SPEAKER_02]: People love the prayers at the end. 05:03.663 --> 05:05.906 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll tell you more about that coming up. 05:05.926 --> 05:06.687 [SPEAKER_02]: But. 05:06.667 --> 05:13.414 [SPEAKER_02]: This, uh, getting the word video Bible study series, uh, was birth out of out of that part of the word. 05:13.434 --> 05:13.694 [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah. 05:13.714 --> 05:17.478 [SPEAKER_02]: People wanting some more wanting to actually get in the word, uh, with us. 05:17.498 --> 05:26.528 [SPEAKER_02]: So we thought, well, why don't we bring some scholar, um, friends to the table, uh, to actually exige the word. 05:26.588 --> 05:29.591 [SPEAKER_02]: And so we had the honor of, uh, we get on there. 05:30.031 --> 05:30.852 [SPEAKER_02]: The doctors. 05:32.073 --> 05:34.696 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, the doctors. 05:34.716 --> 05:35.597 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 05:35.697 --> 05:36.538 [SPEAKER_02]: Doctor. 05:36.518 --> 05:44.791 [SPEAKER_02]: Edmundson, Dr. Tyron, love, yes, that's everybody, and myself in Christina at the table just opening up the word. 05:45.553 --> 06:00.737 [SPEAKER_02]: Old Testament New Testament and just just talking and asking questions as they're each all these scholars are expositing the word and we are adding commentary or lifting up questions or thoughts. 06:00.717 --> 06:14.191 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we got some thoughts, you know, and so we always want to be able to bring to you all black scholars that you maybe you're not aware of, or maybe you do know of, but you hadn't seen them, you know, in action. 06:14.991 --> 06:28.345 [SPEAKER_02]: So we thought that was really important to be able to bring some visibility to know that that God's got something to say from our community, from our various vantage points, you know, which we all have a unique vantage point on description. 06:28.325 --> 06:30.007 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's available right now. 06:30.067 --> 06:47.612 [SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that I really loved about that project is that it really, it mirrors and models kitchen table discipleship, but with, like, with, with scholars, but really digging through some Old Testament and New Testament selections, right, and, and our real-time questions that are happening. 06:48.053 --> 06:49.635 [SPEAKER_01]: And in Revelation. 06:50.256 --> 06:50.877 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. 06:51.057 --> 06:51.318 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. 06:51.338 --> 06:51.598 [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely. 06:51.578 --> 06:57.408 [SPEAKER_01]: Insights are bubbling up, okay, which is one of the things that I think we really need. 06:57.448 --> 07:10.569 [SPEAKER_01]: We need more moments where obviously we get together and we pray together and we fellowship and we laugh and we rejoice together and we weave together, but also at a kitchen table across from each other with open Bibles getting into God's Word. 07:10.629 --> 07:12.532 [SPEAKER_01]: And so it literally does that. 07:12.672 --> 07:15.477 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we hope that when you check it out, 07:15.457 --> 07:16.339 [SPEAKER_01]: and you watch it. 07:16.800 --> 07:18.444 [SPEAKER_01]: You will feel like you're at the table. 07:18.464 --> 07:23.355 [SPEAKER_01]: In the same way that you have been at the table with us here for the podcast, even more so. 07:23.415 --> 07:25.480 [SPEAKER_01]: We'll be at the table together with God's word open. 07:25.761 --> 07:28.487 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so please definitely check that out by that. 07:29.208 --> 07:32.115 [SPEAKER_02]: And you will see, we'll put the link. 07:32.483 --> 07:33.165 [SPEAKER_02]: on our show notes. 07:33.305 --> 07:34.989 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you can yeah, check it out. 07:35.009 --> 07:38.558 [SPEAKER_02]: Might be good small group study resource and yes, whatever. 07:38.578 --> 07:47.860 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is it is really designed when I think about the content and you know, and the folks that we've got to partner with to make that happen IVP, but also partnering with Christina faith as well. 07:47.840 --> 07:50.146 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just think about it. 07:50.166 --> 07:51.810 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I was in kek, exactly. 07:52.231 --> 07:59.731 [SPEAKER_01]: How just how awesome it turned out and also it allows you to study, I guess, independently, but you won't feel alone, right? 08:00.252 --> 08:04.684 [SPEAKER_01]: But to a Kennedy's point, you could also introduce this to your small group, local church. 08:04.664 --> 08:05.185 [SPEAKER_01]: wherever. 08:05.305 --> 08:06.386 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Bible stuff. 08:06.506 --> 08:08.189 [SPEAKER_01]: Family devotion, actually. 08:08.649 --> 08:17.240 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, because it does have that feel of being at the dining room table, being at the kitchen table, learning together, it could be something that you implement in your family devotion time as well. 08:17.260 --> 08:19.403 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, so please, we welcome you to do that. 08:19.423 --> 08:27.233 [SPEAKER_02]: So you'll be able to do that in the show notes and be yeah, be able to get in the world in addition to actual podcasts. 08:27.273 --> 08:29.997 [SPEAKER_02]: So yes, so where else we 08:29.977 --> 08:30.498 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 08:30.698 --> 08:31.859 [SPEAKER_02]: We got going. 08:31.939 --> 08:33.601 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the way I alluded to the praise. 08:33.781 --> 08:35.803 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the work has not stopped, right? 08:35.903 --> 08:44.592 [SPEAKER_01]: And so we, we really try to be good stewards of the gifts, talents, time, cackles, whatever we got to give. 08:45.193 --> 08:52.080 [SPEAKER_01]: And so another project that we picked up in partnership with IVP again was a book that we are working on. 08:52.500 --> 08:55.343 [SPEAKER_01]: And it will be out within this 20, 20 08:55.323 --> 08:57.446 [SPEAKER_01]: 26 and 27 vibe. 08:57.486 --> 08:59.710 [SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be within this time frame. 08:59.730 --> 09:07.341 [SPEAKER_01]: And when remember, you know, you just talked about how get in the word, the Bible in the year podcast, which is free and available right now. 09:07.381 --> 09:08.904 [SPEAKER_01]: If you haven't already, check it out. 09:08.924 --> 09:14.552 [SPEAKER_01]: You should check it out at the end of that 20 minute or so on reading reading. 09:15.254 --> 09:18.158 [SPEAKER_01]: We pray and we pray like how we pray. 09:18.138 --> 09:21.422 [SPEAKER_01]: We pray like how we pray, like God, it was now. 09:22.163 --> 09:28.531 [SPEAKER_01]: As inspired by the scripture, as inspired about our pulse on what's happening right now in the world and putting those things in the conversation. 09:29.292 --> 09:43.369 [SPEAKER_01]: And what we have decided to do, what we have done, and we are in the process of rolling out, is take those prayers, select from them, a set of prayers that are going to go into its own devotional book, and that book is called Truthful Prayers. 09:43.810 --> 09:46.373 [SPEAKER_01]: Because you might as well as have a little bit of the truth, you already know. 09:46.353 --> 09:48.457 [SPEAKER_02]: And it's okay on the time. 09:48.477 --> 09:49.639 [SPEAKER_01]: It's in chaotic time. 09:49.759 --> 09:54.508 [SPEAKER_01]: So, so the truthful prayers is a project that we are actively working in. 09:54.548 --> 09:56.351 [SPEAKER_01]: There's a significant amount of it that's already been done. 09:56.371 --> 09:58.715 [SPEAKER_01]: There's still some more creative parts to take place. 09:59.116 --> 10:00.278 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a prayer devotional. 10:00.298 --> 10:00.979 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 10:00.999 --> 10:01.620 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 10:01.640 --> 10:08.833 [SPEAKER_01]: And really, my hope was that it would spur people on that we must keep talking to God because God is listening. 10:08.813 --> 10:13.901 [SPEAKER_01]: And for you, no matter how is that project been for you? 10:14.001 --> 10:15.964 [SPEAKER_02]: Like the opportunity. 10:16.184 --> 10:23.675 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I am grateful for the opportunity to be able to do a devotional about truthful prayers, you know? 10:23.975 --> 10:26.940 [SPEAKER_02]: Because I think sometimes we feel, I don't know. 10:26.960 --> 10:33.910 [SPEAKER_02]: I think I, I'm not always, but I think there are sometimes people come to God and feel like they cannot. 10:33.890 --> 10:43.605 [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, be honest because there's some myths and some things that people have taught them, you know, that because of what God said, but because what people said, you know, don't ask God questions. 10:43.786 --> 10:48.473 [SPEAKER_02]: Don't ask God why, you know, don't don't express what you don't ask. 10:48.513 --> 10:55.764 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like don't express your frustration and go and just, you know, so it's fake it to you make it type of theology. 10:55.824 --> 10:57.467 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think that we somehow pick up. 10:57.447 --> 10:59.350 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, from other people, you have to go out. 10:59.370 --> 11:02.314 [SPEAKER_01]: But from other people, the people take their discomfort, and they project the non-tech guys. 11:02.334 --> 11:03.035 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 11:03.155 --> 11:08.564 [SPEAKER_02]: And so this, this, this prayer devotion, or at least our hope, it takes off the mask. 11:08.584 --> 11:08.724 [SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm. 11:08.744 --> 11:14.773 [SPEAKER_02]: And it helps us to pray through difficult circumstances, difficult issues. 11:14.873 --> 11:21.683 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's some things that we're praying about, like, from infertility sexual assault. 11:21.663 --> 11:27.712 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a very difficult subject because the Bible talks about all of it. 11:27.812 --> 11:28.113 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 11:28.493 --> 11:30.657 [SPEAKER_02]: And so we go pray about all of it. 11:30.977 --> 11:32.920 [SPEAKER_02]: And so we didn't hold back. 11:32.940 --> 11:33.421 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 11:33.541 --> 11:40.131 [SPEAKER_01]: Doubt and doubt, ears and what's happening in, you know, waiting, violence, oppression, you name it. 11:40.151 --> 11:42.896 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, oppression, yes, wicked rulers, all types. 11:42.956 --> 11:43.857 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, 11:43.837 --> 11:44.898 [SPEAKER_02]: Terrible parts. 11:45.158 --> 11:50.304 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, they're true for these times that we're in. 11:50.364 --> 11:54.669 [SPEAKER_02]: And so we hope that it's a blessing for you all. 11:54.729 --> 12:02.318 [SPEAKER_02]: And that it's another resource, really, another resource that you can, I don't know, walk through individually, but also collectively. 12:02.518 --> 12:04.921 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I could see people praying through this together. 12:04.941 --> 12:06.763 [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I thought about it to be honest. 12:06.803 --> 12:09.566 [SPEAKER_02]: But I guess, yeah, we're groups, right? 12:09.626 --> 12:12.409 [SPEAKER_02]: Together, walking through it and working through it. 12:12.389 --> 12:12.870 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 12:12.990 --> 12:13.230 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 12:13.250 --> 12:20.141 [SPEAKER_01]: 100% and then getting to the very end of it and pulling out their journal and adding true for their own. 12:20.181 --> 12:20.782 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 12:20.802 --> 12:21.723 [SPEAKER_01]: The own true for prayer. 12:21.743 --> 12:22.805 [SPEAKER_01]: I think that is so critical. 12:22.945 --> 12:29.976 [SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I think a lot of the work that we do is focus on not just our contribution, but stirring up. 12:29.956 --> 12:42.249 [SPEAKER_01]: your contribution, and staring at everyone else's contribution, exactly, and you have your own set of gifts and you have been anointed in whatever way the Lord has seen fit to use you for this time. 12:42.289 --> 12:52.940 [SPEAKER_01]: And so I think a lot of, I think my joy is in seeing people be activated to do what God has called them to do, and then we all get blessed by that. 12:53.100 --> 12:53.601 [SPEAKER_01]: So, 12:53.581 --> 13:03.339 [SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping that you'll check out those first two projects that you will lend us your supports, your enthusiasm, your tell folks about it and you'll share it with others, right? 13:03.379 --> 13:07.506 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that makes it so that we can do more projects when that takes place. 13:07.587 --> 13:25.523 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes, your support doesn't mean a lot because that leads us to have the opportunity for to do more projects to do more things individually and collectively, so it really does your support means a lot so please check those out obviously a true for prayers is not out yet, but So yeah, but you're on the way on the way. 13:25.644 --> 13:31.389 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're not yet at the pre-order stage for that, but by anyway, but by yeah, by the way, well, let's take a quick break. 13:31.749 --> 13:37.054 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and again, what it's all about. 13:39.397 --> 13:43.433 [SPEAKER_00]: Our NAAACP Image Award-nominated book, Truth Table. 13:43.750 --> 13:49.037 [SPEAKER_00]: Black women's musings on life, love, and liberation is making waves and shifting culture. 13:49.798 --> 13:57.129 [SPEAKER_00]: I closed this book feeling like I had just partaken in a multi-course meal, filled with grace and the courage to carry on. 13:57.970 --> 14:00.934 [SPEAKER_00]: And I believe you'll finish this book feeling the same way. 14:01.595 --> 14:03.978 [SPEAKER_00]: Morgan Harper Nichols artists in poet. 14:04.519 --> 14:11.749 [SPEAKER_00]: By Truth's Table, Black women's musings on life, love, and liberation, at our website, or wherever books are sold. 14:12.539 --> 14:16.825 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, we are back at the table, talking about two tables cooking. 14:16.885 --> 14:17.426 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll be cooking it. 14:17.706 --> 14:24.296 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, talking about, okay, well, on a subject of books, you. 14:24.316 --> 14:26.599 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I've got a book project, yeah. 14:27.421 --> 14:27.581 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 14:27.601 --> 14:28.542 [SPEAKER_01]: Was you a good one? 14:28.903 --> 14:29.504 [SPEAKER_01]: My goodness. 14:29.764 --> 14:31.847 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, I, labor of love. 14:32.147 --> 14:35.412 [SPEAKER_01]: So I have a book project with, uh, brosos. 14:36.353 --> 14:38.777 [SPEAKER_01]: Um, brosos press. 14:38.797 --> 14:39.057 [SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm. 14:39.077 --> 14:42.242 [SPEAKER_01]: And the book is on what makes leaders wise. 14:42.610 --> 14:46.835 [SPEAKER_01]: which I mean we don't have to worry about that because obviously all of our leaders are wise. 14:48.637 --> 14:52.001 [SPEAKER_01]: We live in perfect making a very reasonable decision all the time. 14:52.441 --> 15:06.137 [SPEAKER_01]: Nothing is untalented at all exactly, so it is a really, it's an interesting treatment on the topic of wisdom and obviously it looks at the Proverbs, but it also looks at 15:06.117 --> 15:09.022 [SPEAKER_01]: those who we see as wise in Scripture. 15:09.183 --> 15:13.751 [SPEAKER_01]: Obviously Jesus is the source of all wisdom and the standard of wisdom. 15:14.533 --> 15:24.792 [SPEAKER_01]: But also looks at what makes a leader over time a person who is marked by wisdom and why that's critically important and what happens when we don't listen to wisdom? 15:25.654 --> 15:27.838 [SPEAKER_01]: Why does we don't listen to wisdom? 15:27.818 --> 15:34.209 [SPEAKER_01]: what are some of the consequences, personally, relationally and organizationally is what the book walks. 15:34.249 --> 15:39.979 [SPEAKER_01]: So I hope it's helpful, at least in the sense that I think it will stir up the conversation. 15:40.019 --> 15:45.128 [SPEAKER_01]: It'll also remind people that wisdom is one of the gifts that God gives without reservation to anybody. 15:45.148 --> 15:46.350 [SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. 15:46.370 --> 15:48.754 [SPEAKER_01]: Which you know, I'm always like, you know, it's particularly if you want to build your faith. 15:48.774 --> 15:51.058 [SPEAKER_01]: I always remind people that, 15:51.038 --> 15:54.503 [SPEAKER_01]: We ask God for all kinds of things and it could be a no, it could be a yes. 15:54.523 --> 16:01.532 [SPEAKER_01]: But do you better make sure you put wisdom on the list because we have guaranteed to receive wisdom if we ask for it, you know? 16:01.612 --> 16:07.600 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that is one something I often pray about because I know that it will build my faith because I know God will answer it. 16:07.840 --> 16:09.823 [SPEAKER_01]: God is going to give me give me wisdom. 16:09.803 --> 16:10.785 [SPEAKER_01]: And so the book is about that. 16:10.965 --> 16:11.967 [SPEAKER_01]: Do we really want wisdom? 16:12.247 --> 16:14.190 [SPEAKER_01]: Cause with wisdom also comes from the ability. 16:14.771 --> 16:19.038 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that is a project that will roll out between 2026 and 2027. 16:20.661 --> 16:24.888 [SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I hope that people, yeah, enjoy it, are blessed by it. 16:25.068 --> 16:25.589 [SPEAKER_01]: I can't wait. 16:25.649 --> 16:26.210 [SPEAKER_01]: Start up by. 16:26.450 --> 16:27.833 [SPEAKER_01]: I've already pre-ordered the book. 16:27.873 --> 16:28.153 [SPEAKER_01]: Thank you. 16:28.173 --> 16:29.636 [SPEAKER_01]: Cause that's what friends are feeling. 16:29.656 --> 16:30.317 [SPEAKER_02]: You can pre-order. 16:30.437 --> 16:31.759 [SPEAKER_02]: What would that link actually do? 16:32.000 --> 16:32.380 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 16:32.440 --> 16:32.781 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah. 16:32.801 --> 16:33.482 [SPEAKER_01]: In the show notes. 16:33.462 --> 16:38.290 [SPEAKER_01]: It's got some little stories in there too, and about experiences, working with organizations, working with leaders, my own background, their pieces in there. 16:38.310 --> 16:57.462 [SPEAKER_01]: So if you know is he like me, go check out that book, check out, we've got some other really cool things happening from a collaboration standpoint, tell them a little bit about, and I think it's a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of 16:57.442 --> 16:59.987 [SPEAKER_01]: this this real blessing this collaborative project. 17:00.007 --> 17:19.703 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah we recently shared you know uh well depending on y'all see this episode on our social media that we uh we've been awarded uh by gosh grace uh a collaboration grant um by an organization known as 10 by 10 and we are collaborating and shout to 10 by 10. 17:19.683 --> 17:25.891 [SPEAKER_02]: who makes faith matter, you know, for they're trying to make faith matter, for one million. 17:27.213 --> 17:34.943 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one million people, young people, Gen Z is particular, you know, within ten years, hopefully they're trying to do that. 17:35.084 --> 17:41.472 [SPEAKER_02]: And so, so has been a real blessing, you know, and that this collaboration grant. 17:41.452 --> 17:48.930 [SPEAKER_02]: is in collaboration with Black Christian Influencers, our dear sister, Jacqueline Horbrook, CEO, and Founder all now. 17:49.190 --> 17:53.962 [SPEAKER_02]: BC, I, you guys have seen their viral videos everywhere. 17:53.982 --> 17:56.608 [SPEAKER_02]: It's a big social media. 17:56.588 --> 18:04.019 [SPEAKER_02]: account and so it's been a pleasure, you know, to work with her and to come up with this really fun project. 18:04.400 --> 18:15.076 [SPEAKER_02]: I think a good intervention, you know, for young people the ages of 13 to 18 and who have a lot of real questions about faith and they're trying to find the answers. 18:15.136 --> 18:17.480 [SPEAKER_02]: We don't want to just find our own questions, yeah. 18:17.620 --> 18:25.752 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we don't want them to look for those answers, 18:26.069 --> 18:27.272 [SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, or worse. 18:27.733 --> 18:30.960 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or worse, you know, we know that AI is not God. 18:31.020 --> 18:32.022 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 18:32.042 --> 18:33.465 [SPEAKER_02]: AI is not a substitute for God. 18:33.545 --> 18:36.893 [SPEAKER_02]: AI does not have the Holy Spirit, I think. 18:36.953 --> 18:37.554 [SPEAKER_02]: I hope we know that. 18:38.696 --> 18:42.304 [SPEAKER_02]: And so we want to be able to have provided intervention. 18:42.966 --> 18:45.411 [SPEAKER_02]: And so they have a place to go. 18:45.391 --> 18:48.194 [SPEAKER_02]: you know, to get those real questions answered. 18:48.254 --> 18:49.775 [SPEAKER_02]: And so it involves all types of stuff. 18:50.636 --> 18:55.381 [SPEAKER_02]: Real research focus groups to get like what are you asking? 18:55.401 --> 18:56.262 [SPEAKER_02]: What are your questions? 18:56.302 --> 18:56.722 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 18:56.742 --> 19:02.348 [SPEAKER_02]: So we're not just assuming, you know, but we're hearing from the teens themselves. 19:03.249 --> 19:06.051 [SPEAKER_02]: And people that aren't even not yet believers too. 19:06.131 --> 19:11.777 [SPEAKER_02]: So it's not just Christians, but also people that are outside of the faith, asking these theological issues. 19:11.797 --> 19:11.837 [SPEAKER_02]: So 19:11.817 --> 19:20.649 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm excited about all the humans got theological questions every whether they frame them that way or not exactly So I'm excited to really dig into that project. 19:20.729 --> 19:24.514 [SPEAKER_02]: I think it's gonna deep in our own faith We're gonna learn a whole lot. 19:24.534 --> 19:29.160 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I hope that the teens will also learn from us So I'm looking forward to it. 19:29.300 --> 19:38.432 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's such a great opportunity, right to have legacy building work And it's the part of what I think I kind of our mission-minded approach has been 19:38.412 --> 19:49.694 [SPEAKER_01]: for years, right, is to do legacy building work that extends beyond just us as individuals, but really blesses people in practical ways. 19:49.754 --> 20:00.876 [SPEAKER_01]: And my hope is that teenagers experience this deliverable, this product that we are putting together, this work that we're doing, and they are deeply impacted. 20:00.856 --> 20:07.471 [SPEAKER_01]: And they feel heard and seen and loved by God through this effort would be a great great take away. 20:07.511 --> 20:17.093 [SPEAKER_01]: I mean the other thing that you know we continue to work on and we continue to build is true stable foundation and you heard us talk about 20:17.073 --> 20:21.500 [SPEAKER_01]: To save a foundation here last season, you're going to hear us all go about it again. 20:22.522 --> 20:23.063 [SPEAKER_01]: This season, right? 20:23.423 --> 20:31.937 [SPEAKER_01]: Because it is incredibly important for the folks who are not familiar with the foundation, what would you say to them to get them kind of caught up to speed? 20:32.458 --> 20:40.351 [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean, I would say thank you to those who have supported true to the foundation, especially in our end of year, giving campaign in 2025. 20:40.732 --> 20:42.675 [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, not me having to go back. 20:42.655 --> 20:54.360 [SPEAKER_02]: It's been already been a long year, but yes, so just a foundation is the way that we really truly operationalize the work of choose table. 20:54.621 --> 20:58.048 [SPEAKER_02]: I'll see the podcast that we've done throughout all of these many years. 20:58.028 --> 21:20.330 [SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, so what we're seeking to do is build up, you know, and strengthen the faith integration of black Christian women because they know that when black women, black Christian women are built up when they are supported, when they are taken care of, we know that they are the keepers of democracy and things change. 21:21.071 --> 21:21.411 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay. 21:21.431 --> 21:24.154 [SPEAKER_02]: So we want to support women that are either in the boardroom. 21:24.134 --> 21:31.525 [SPEAKER_02]: in the upper room, in the kitchen room, in the back room, wherever they happen to be, their station in life, whatever doesn't matter. 21:32.486 --> 21:38.735 [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever their status, regardless of where they are in life, we want to be able to support them holistically. 21:39.076 --> 21:42.160 [SPEAKER_02]: And so we do that through retreats. 21:42.140 --> 21:52.414 [SPEAKER_02]: We do that through virtual programming, bringing in other teachers, scholars, mental health professional, professional, sorry. 21:53.135 --> 21:59.363 [SPEAKER_02]: Somatic practitioners, who else do we fitness, you know? 21:59.383 --> 22:00.284 [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you name it. 22:00.344 --> 22:10.898 [SPEAKER_01]: Whatever we think will contribute to kind of well-rounded health, you know, and because God has something to say about all of those things, like whatever concerns us, God cares. 22:10.878 --> 22:12.260 [SPEAKER_01]: for us in and through it. 22:12.340 --> 22:16.988 [SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, our program tries to reflect that and you know you mentioned the virtual piece. 22:17.129 --> 22:28.367 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but 2026 and into 2027 we'll be launching even into more intentional in person and person discipleship development and mentoring. 22:28.768 --> 22:32.835 [SPEAKER_01]: So that's at the heartbeat of the pillars of the foundation and so 22:32.815 --> 22:37.761 [SPEAKER_01]: That is, when you think about true stable, obviously, people think about the podcast. 22:38.301 --> 22:58.705 [SPEAKER_01]: But we also want you to be thinking about true stable alive, like outside of just your gear, but in real life, impacting, impacting the lives of Black Christian women, not just in the United States, but globally, so that we can be reminded of God's love for us. 22:58.685 --> 23:10.442 [SPEAKER_01]: that we can be equipped to lead and to serve in this world and to be a blessing to your point in a way that helps to preserve neighbor love and the protection of democracy. 23:10.622 --> 23:10.882 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes. 23:10.902 --> 23:14.768 [SPEAKER_01]: And so that's kind of what we are we are leaned into. 23:14.788 --> 23:16.630 [SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're dialed into in our work. 23:16.991 --> 23:18.533 [SPEAKER_01]: They day to day, honestly. 23:18.513 --> 23:32.114 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, and so we have been blessed, you know, to, of course, you know, get that background with 10 by 10 to be able to do that collaborative work with BCI and others, but we also invite you all, you know, to support that work of the true state of foundation. 23:32.155 --> 23:34.578 [SPEAKER_02]: That link is actually in our show, and as well. 23:35.079 --> 23:43.272 [SPEAKER_02]: And so you can always support their, get plugged in to what, you know, what we're doing there, because that's something that we're that's institution building. 23:43.252 --> 23:44.153 [SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely. 23:44.814 --> 23:46.656 [SPEAKER_01]: And you're on the ground floor of it. 23:46.956 --> 23:49.579 [SPEAKER_01]: And we are pro-institution buildings. 23:49.679 --> 23:50.900 [SPEAKER_01]: Yes, we are not here. 23:51.761 --> 23:56.046 [SPEAKER_01]: We're as high institutional corruption, but we are not anti-institution. 23:56.066 --> 24:01.772 [SPEAKER_01]: We are definitely designed to be in collaborative, effective community, and that's what institutions at their best are. 24:01.892 --> 24:03.835 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, it's all. 24:03.855 --> 24:06.137 [SPEAKER_02]: So I think that there, and I, you know, I don't know. 24:06.117 --> 24:19.154 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, for me individual, I don't know what's really next, you know, we'll see, you know, I mean, that's the fact we're all of us, you know, there's a lot of different book ideas I have to, but the climate is just on you know, I just don't think the timing is right. 24:19.294 --> 24:21.918 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but at least the topics I don't want to talk about. 24:21.938 --> 24:23.900 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, what we do is we stay, we stay ready. 24:23.920 --> 24:24.421 [SPEAKER_01]: All right. 24:24.942 --> 24:26.804 [SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like the Lord has given me this idea. 24:26.924 --> 24:28.807 [SPEAKER_01]: And then so when the moment comes. 24:29.327 --> 24:29.708 [SPEAKER_01]: Exactly. 24:29.728 --> 24:31.490 [SPEAKER_01]: Elevator door opens the opportunity. 24:31.530 --> 24:32.552 [SPEAKER_01]: We go in, hopefully. 24:32.792 --> 24:33.593 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 24:33.573 --> 24:36.361 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I mean, so we'll see, you know, open hand. 24:36.521 --> 24:38.527 [SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've learned to have an open hand. 24:38.547 --> 24:42.478 [SPEAKER_02]: We're glad you never know what the Lord has on and on around the corner. 24:42.739 --> 24:43.701 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, we don't. 24:43.902 --> 24:44.604 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:44.624 --> 24:48.595 [SPEAKER_01]: And we're thankful for the the collaborative projects, the collaborative book projects. 24:48.575 --> 24:49.156 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah. 24:49.176 --> 24:50.498 [SPEAKER_01]: And the collaborative partnerships. 24:51.479 --> 24:56.246 [SPEAKER_01]: And many more to come that we are not even talking about right now that they are still in the works in the background. 24:56.306 --> 25:11.707 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, if you are listening and you are representative of an organization or institution and you want a partner with your stable, we know that actually legacy building, institutional building work requires great partnerships. 25:12.087 --> 25:15.612 [SPEAKER_01]: And so, and we work very hard to be good partners. 25:15.592 --> 25:19.360 [SPEAKER_01]: So it seems like you're excellent people to partner with to do great work. 25:19.420 --> 25:26.916 [SPEAKER_01]: So we would love to connect with you and to learn more about what you're doing minimally to pray for you and to encourage you. 25:27.337 --> 25:31.025 [SPEAKER_01]: But if there's an opportunity for synergy, we're open to those type of things. 25:31.205 --> 25:34.292 [SPEAKER_01]: We have to have this shared interest. 25:34.424 --> 25:47.107 [SPEAKER_01]: which is the support of Black Christian women locally nationally and globally and that alignment is something that we don't shift on and we've not shifted in our content on that. 25:47.187 --> 25:52.737 [SPEAKER_01]: We are very clear about our court audience and our focus and that is represented in the foundation as well. 25:52.717 --> 26:02.763 [SPEAKER_02]: Okay, and you know what, I would also say, we have some events that we're, um, I'm speaking, yeah, um, together, yeah, which we're looking forward to, um, but yeah, but we're also open for bookings too. 26:02.983 --> 26:03.244 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 26:03.264 --> 26:08.076 [SPEAKER_02]: Enough for speaking either together, collectively, individually, whatever, you know, preaching, teaching. 26:08.056 --> 26:27.739 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it brings a lot of joy, especially when we're able to do something like true stable lives, which we've done a different parts of the different cultures, different cultures, different locations, and that is really synergistic and important and encouraging, especially at a time like this. 26:27.800 --> 26:34.047 [SPEAKER_01]: You can imagine true stable also partnering with lots of different artists, performers, and we come together. 26:34.027 --> 26:38.020 [SPEAKER_01]: to tell the truth and to be encouraged for an evening. 26:38.060 --> 26:43.577 [SPEAKER_01]: And so if you're interested in something like that in your organization or your local church, you can check us out. 26:43.637 --> 26:45.724 [SPEAKER_01]: And again, we're going to look at mission alignment. 26:45.957 --> 26:51.828 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there's a lot of them, and this is a lot of them, but that's something that's also been a lot of fun, and we have some of things like that coming up to this year. 26:51.988 --> 26:59.602 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, so that, and that you can, you can always put the, the booking through our website, truestable.com or our email. 26:59.662 --> 27:01.145 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, truestable at gmail.com. 27:01.165 --> 27:01.325 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah. 27:01.345 --> 27:05.974 [SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, so it's some, it's, it's good for us to take stock and inventory. 27:05.954 --> 27:15.468 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one temptation, which we said before is just when you're creative, you're always on to the next project or you're in the midst of a project and you just go, go, go, go, go. 27:15.488 --> 27:21.897 [SPEAKER_02]: In addition to our own individual projects and contracts and, yeah, consulting all the different things of your life, those are the different things. 27:23.299 --> 27:27.726 [SPEAKER_02]: But it's good to pause and look at, okay, what we got in our table and share that up. 27:28.227 --> 27:35.337 [SPEAKER_02]: Because sometimes we're going to assume that you all know, but you may not know, but we're up to because we do do a different thing. 27:35.317 --> 27:37.200 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so yeah, so thank you. 27:37.300 --> 27:42.369 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm glad we got to Share some things that come in things that are present. 27:42.409 --> 27:52.887 [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and give guy thanks for good work to do with there Yeah, I was like about going good work with my head my heart in my hands and I think true stable has been good meaningful legacy building work to do 27:52.867 --> 27:59.937 [SPEAKER_02]: And so we we've tried to stay faithful to that and try to partner with people that are all about legacy building So so this is a great. 28:00.297 --> 28:03.942 [SPEAKER_02]: I'm grateful to be joining with you, my sister as well Let's get it. 28:04.183 --> 28:18.823 [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we're still cooking we still cooking so y'all let us know you know if you want a partner But also let us know maybe you know what you're interested in what you're working on you know on now Let's go call you didn't I made I know it's wild times, but we still work you've got work to do to 28:18.803 --> 28:21.192 [SPEAKER_02]: So we we're cooking together. 28:21.232 --> 28:22.999 [SPEAKER_02]: So thank you all for taking a seat at the table. 28:23.039 --> 28:25.127 [SPEAKER_02]: What a sign, make him and I'm Christina. 28:25.509 --> 28:27.496 [SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you soon on the next trip table. 28:27.516 --> 28:27.717 [SPEAKER_02]: Bye.