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[SPEAKER_06]: Adventures welcome back to the Elder Scrolls lore cast you've got me Tom and Lotus here and our patrons because it is the end of the month and our patrons are joining us again To discuss different ways that they play the game different builds they use or the ways they role play in any of the games in the Elder Scrolls series And this is gonna be a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: Lotus, are you ready to talk about this?
[SPEAKER_06]: I am.
[SPEAKER_06]: Good.
[SPEAKER_06]: How does Rob the Princess feel?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, thanks, Rob.
[SPEAKER_06]: Speaking of the princess, we have Rob the princess, Mintaka, Bliny Vision, and Falcon with the box on joining.
[SPEAKER_06]: Welcome back, everybody.
[SPEAKER_06]: Why don't we all, here's the people we're going to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: On the count of three, you're going to unmute, and you're going to do your best, Rob the princess and pressure.
[SPEAKER_06]: And here we go.
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[SPEAKER_07]: How do you work?
[SPEAKER_07]: I'm so hard at it.
[SPEAKER_07]: We have a project.
[SPEAKER_06]: Very good.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's like the behind the same explain the joke.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it goes all explain in the behind the scene from here on text Guys we're up earlier this week Rob's like oh no, I'm not gonna be able to make it I've got this some other things going on and this will be the first time I miss one of these chats since I signed up as a patron And I was like, oh, that's a real bummer and then the idea I don't remember if it was your idea robber fight I came up with a boat
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was slow to sir.
[SPEAKER_06]: He was at worst.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, somebody came up with an idea and they're like, you know, Rob could just send in some recordings of him saying things and then I could hit buttons and then it turns out that I sent all that up.
[SPEAKER_06]: I like orgs.
[SPEAKER_06]: And now that's what we have.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then four hours before the show, I ended up getting changed a plan to get anyways.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, so Rob could make it.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I'm glad you were able to make it now, but I'm sorry your thing didn't work out, but Rob's back, I'm gonna talk us here, blinding vision, and Falcon with the box on, and well, let's just get into it.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're talking different ways to play any of the games, Skyrim, oblivion, more wind, Elder Scrolls Online, who would like to share ways that they've enjoyed playing the games the most?
[SPEAKER_06]: What do you do to make it fun?
[SPEAKER_06]: Who would like to start?
[SPEAKER_03]: Anybody I can if yeah, that's one still now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Blinding this was your idea, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was yeah, I'm a big fan of builds and games that'll allow me to make builds, but it doesn't necessarily add to the fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I I found the way that I play games a lot of times.
[SPEAKER_03]: I take away the fun for myself and I tend to not finish a lot of games because of that.
[SPEAKER_03]: like I'm I'm one shot in everything at a certain point in the game like this is I crank up the difficulty
[SPEAKER_03]: doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_03]: Still do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I'd like to kind of talk about Elder Scrolls Online because the way it's set up, you kind of can't just one shot everything.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not yet, at least.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, definitely with the Night Market stuff, you can't.
[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, that just came out today.
[SPEAKER_06]: And people are like, holy and moly, I actually have to team up with people in order to kill things.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's definitely group content.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so okay, so how do you play Elder Scrolls Online and and how is it different from I'm assuming you're talking about mostly Skyrim, but any of the other games you've played how does that how do you do so the main I'm not I'm not one for the role play aspect of it's just I like the game aspect where I
[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of times, like my single player experience, I build something, I have one shot and everything, I lose interest, I go play another game.
[SPEAKER_03]: But Elder Scrolls Online, I like big numbers, whether it's damage numbers, but at various points, I've posted some of these screenshots.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got a tank with hold on.
[SPEAKER_03]: 107,000 health.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, if I transform it goes up to like 158,000, so I'm like, yeah, mini boss level kind of thing walking around.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a little transform are you referring to transforming into like a like a lie through the lieth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's what I'm going to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know if you were doing the lieth transformation or like where will transformation, but okay, yeah, I figured for that much of a health jump and had to be the lieth.
[SPEAKER_03]: But so I've got some similar with a max dam, 68k max dam with a
[SPEAKER_03]: on transform if I go into where will the jumps up to about 81k again just a big stupid number no reason for it and the craziest one I don't have the unmoored number but it's max magica I have a hundred thousand max magica in the vampire lord I just like big numbers
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So this is a lot of what people who and Lotus can speak on this more than I can, but a lot of the end-game rating people, it's all about maximizing, and min-maxing those numbers, making them as big as possible in order to work with a group.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd like to.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So just based on like your desire to get like crazy big numbers, one of the things I got to ask, have you ever managed to get Emperor and Sereto?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, and I want to because I don't do the the time commit because it's what 75% increase of all of us.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's changed to points throughout time, but it's something completely a name because I remember that I was close to like triple digits on stuff and that's not what I built into because it was just like a like Kind of like a split difference like actual PVP build, but like I think it might double everything is what it currently sits at so it's just like all your stats will like
[SPEAKER_01]: double in on themselves, which is just ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I used to joke that it just, it's essentially allowing you to cheat in a multiplayer game within the rules of the game, because just like, hoard some people run it, you know what I'm like?
[SPEAKER_01]: That's this fun, because you're real people and you know, stand a chance.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm simply ripping down people like their NPCs.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is, this can't be fun for any of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: You become very new, you know.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it's absurd, the problem with for the builds I make,
[SPEAKER_01]: most of those like with the crazy big numbers aren't viable in like anyway that's that's sort of my point is like because that's why it's like mine wasn't split into one single stat because again like if you're all of one specific type the counter play is to literally work to your one weakness and you can't have all of them completely that high without you know sacrificing something.
[SPEAKER_03]: back in the day, the max health build was pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a nightblade at the time, like solo nightblade forever ago, and it was sitting at about a hundred K in Seerdil.
[SPEAKER_03]: And what I would do was I would just have a attack.
[SPEAKER_03]: And the nightblade in this ability skill, it's other morph.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a self-heal that he'll 33% of your max health at one time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, when you're sitting at a hundred K max health,
[SPEAKER_03]: a single tick of it heals you for 33K and it was unkillable.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was annoying.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a noxious who was so much fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I got so much hate mail.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's the thing with it.
[SPEAKER_01]: So funny about that and arc from, you know, my other co-host entails he used to do stuff like that when he would go into battlegrounds and he was like,
[SPEAKER_01]: the diminishing returns here are a little unfortunate because he's like I've basically made myself next to unkillable.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I stand on an objective and people just whale on me and they don't do the objective but then there's three of them on the objective so there's more of them so it's actually still taking the objective and I can't kill them because I'm only built for durability so he's like
[SPEAKER_01]: I just stand there and then get depressed that I'm not able to do anything back to them and they can't kill me.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they just eventually take the position and run away because they're like, it's not worth trying to fight this person.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to net us anything.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So how do you point to that though?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the either chaosful?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you can get your own powers fantastic.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that, that was built for stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, this is a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: So what is your mindset when you go into this?
[SPEAKER_06]: Are you digging through wickies, finding the exact gear with the biggest stats and then planning or route to go get everything you need?
[SPEAKER_06]: Or are you crafting it?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, how do you work all that out?
[SPEAKER_03]: So I've been playing since launch.
[SPEAKER_03]: So a lot of that stuff is either already unlocked.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of it's base game gear.
[SPEAKER_03]: The max health one, plague doctor, comes out of Deshawn, which is one of the base game zones pretty early on in the red storyline.
[SPEAKER_06]: Now, do you know that?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because you've compared it to all the other potential you get in every time there's a new expansion, do you check this?
[SPEAKER_06]: Make sure it's the absolute max still or sometimes.
[SPEAKER_03]: So I used to do that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was a lot of fun for me to,
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm a nerd.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like, I used to do the math.
[SPEAKER_03]: I used to be able to, this has been years since I did it, but I would be able to accurately call the meta for like in-game trials every time a patch was released.
[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, it's going to be this.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to change that.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to, I called the the kajit swap.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, when everyone is running around, it's kitty cats for a patch or two.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like,
[SPEAKER_03]: but oftentimes I'd use it for evil like making a max health build or making a speed build.
[SPEAKER_03]: I made a character that could outrun max out horses.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: That was my favorite.
[SPEAKER_03]: I named him Barry Allen and he's got like the Barry Allen like I made the character look like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_07]: So do you always focus on one stat with these, like, maxing out a single thing?
[SPEAKER_07]: Is that, like, each one is for that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, kind of, so sometimes like the, the, the three main attribute ones, that's that's exactly what I was going for.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I made all those in about a week.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I was just looking what the max, uh, comparing like, uh, there's some sets that give higher numbers if you have a food or drink buff.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I, I did the math to see if, uh,
[SPEAKER_03]: The number plus the food plus the extra thing and it up being more than just like the food and But yeah, generally if I'm looking for that I'm assuming you saw the background yeah, it's been losing and I'm wondering I'm always keep on hoping somebody's gonna point it out and chat But yeah Yeah, but I I technically go for the one number at a time Because because I can
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so, okay, any other questions about this?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I used to use the UESP build editor for all the little number crunching you ever use like a website to compare that or just test out in game after grabbing all of the equipment, like, really so evenly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So the build editor until very recently,
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't have a computer, so I was using my phone, and I would go a lot of times UESP and there used to be another site that was really good about the sets, and they've fallen off a little bit, and UESP, you can kind of see when it was last edited, so you know if there's you're not fresh, it's going to be, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Have you considered having considered actually doing content around this stuff because there's there's a number of people who do builds and things but to do like the kinds of stuff you're talking about feels very different from what you get in a typical build site.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, if you want to min max this and like in order to in your case you'd be like, all right, here's a build that out runs horses.
[SPEAKER_03]: go, you know, they, that one, that one upset me.
[SPEAKER_03]: That one used to be fantastic.
[SPEAKER_03]: They change how speed stacks and you can kind of do the ring of the wild hunt.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, this is about to say, I know that one's been nerfed because dog used to have one from Red Diamond Carrier.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I said talk about having one too and I was like, yeah, no, a couple of my buddies had those wouldn't they were trying to collect ingredients?
[SPEAKER_01]: because they would, you know, short on stacks for making potions for trials.
[SPEAKER_01]: So they just had a speed one, whether it was just like, yeah, I just run around in this loop at like, mock speed.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just to grab as much crap as fast as I can.
[SPEAKER_03]: I, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was running all the vines and the steed mundus and few words like I see.
[SPEAKER_03]: And this is before like the jewelry crafting.
[SPEAKER_03]: the wild hunt ring.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and like out running courses.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was also around the same time that they released the the jester personality, the high step one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was a PvP doing that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like keeping a
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it would be very effective for carrying a scroll if you want to play in PVP as well.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've only done it once, but I got killed by a decent where they, oh, that's nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and took like 300,000 points of damage and under a second by some guy that wasn't there.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's fortunate.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's most unfortunate.
[SPEAKER_06]: So go back to the question.
[SPEAKER_06]: Have you considered actually creating guides and builds about this kind of stuff?
[SPEAKER_03]: Kind of a lot of times people will see some of the crazy numbers, especially the health one because in game you can see that and just help people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not like gatekeeping.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm not good at it.
[SPEAKER_06]: You might get some good clicks on a YouTube video, you know, and you do this pretty regularly.
[SPEAKER_06]: You drop a few videos a month.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'll send you a channel and you're starting to make a little bit of money on the side.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not a bad idea.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you're going to do it anyway, you know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm really about bad about documenting the dumb things that I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is the trickiest punch I was talking about after I did it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, here's what you do.
[SPEAKER_06]: You set up a recording and you record yourself doing it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then now you can edit into a video that you watch what you did and go, oh, yeah, I did this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I did this, I did this.
[SPEAKER_06]: Then you simply just explain it with footage from the video that you recorded.
[SPEAKER_06]: Boom, you got it.
[SPEAKER_06]: You've got a guide, a quick little 8 minute video, all of a sudden that's monetizable.
[SPEAKER_06]: If you get a big enough channel, you're making, you may be making enough money to pay for your car, whatever, you know?
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, uh,
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm in the discord, someone say something if you, if you like to let me know, let me know if it's, it's, it's, we're doing it all, uh, I think people would be on these, I think he's like, he's weird builds.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think people will click on that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I think they would too.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think especially if it's like one weird quirky thing, and that's your title, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_07]: You know, watch me make a max, whatever, build and you know, I think people would click on it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, I made an indestructible build where nobody can beat me in serodill.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like, right, I'm going to click on that to be fair, that's how every build is described.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, blind vision.
[SPEAKER_06]: This has been super cool and very, very interesting.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you have anything to wrap this up?
[SPEAKER_06]: Because we've got to cover everybody else.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got to, you know, that's about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very cool stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never doubt a little bit.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And if anyone wants to get a little bit more insight in how to do these, reach out blind divisions on the discord.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thanks, blinding.
[SPEAKER_06]: Who would like to go next?
[SPEAKER_06]: Who has a different way of playing the game or different builds or role playing?
[SPEAKER_06]: Things that they want to share.
[SPEAKER_06]: Or do I get to pick somebody?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to say, mind be quick if we want because actually I already know blinding and I have a very similar style of play across multiple games.
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, you go a little more into like the extremes of like, oh, I want to be able to just like,
[SPEAKER_01]: focus on one specific thing and kind of just go crazy with it, type of deal, health, whatever the case type of deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas I'm very much of like, well, I don't want to be restricted, I just want to be the best at everything, which in single player games you can do whatever you want.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't matter type of deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then when you get into an online style game like ESO or something like that, you have to...
[SPEAKER_01]: like with a play fair like they they will balance you if you're too far out of the realm to a degree but I'm actually always like much more of a defensive mindset whenever I build stuff I do it in single player games I do it in melee player games I like to then like go into the last armor the most durable of all things but um
[SPEAKER_01]: it's interesting just like listening to you talk about that because for the longest time I only played a tank until we were allowed to kind of like have multiple.
[SPEAKER_01]: When they pretty much once they opened it up and they were like, hey, your achievements are now tied to your profile rather than your character.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll play something else to help people if they would like because before it was like, no, I'm just playing my one character, get out of here.
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't always, I have the most health necessarily, but my thing was I was just like, I need to be all purpose durable and be able to physically do everything with just my one character.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a big, I like to play lots of different characters, let's, I don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily restart Skyrim, even though I have like 3700 hours in Skyrim, it's just one playthrough until my save has just been abused so badly that it corrupts or something like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's when I would restart Skyrim.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, no, it can't take anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not so much.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to restart.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's something I definitely share in common and whatever you've mentioned how you play I'm like, oh yeah, that sounds familiar.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just sort of like different tweaks on how can I just be the most over the top version of what I am?
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, for sake of ease, I feel like you kind of covered most of it but I just wanted to kind of chime in that it's like, yeah, you and I seem like we have very similar play styles to when we play games or it's just like, I'm like a backstory for my character and a look for my
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's all gameplay for me past past that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like that's really my only roleplaying thing and then it's the game itself.
[SPEAKER_01]: But like I like to set myself up the first time and then I has everybody knows never change.
[SPEAKER_01]: What do we hear 12 without a scrolls on lights to wear on glass armor?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the the the appearances pretty much the only real like
[SPEAKER_03]: roleplay thing that I do that name occasionally, like I do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I try not to have overly obnoxious names too frequently.
[SPEAKER_01]: Every now and then.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, if I can make them obnoxious and lower appropriate, that's the sweet spot, really.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nice altering.
[SPEAKER_06]: Anybody have any questions for Lotus?
[SPEAKER_06]: I guess that does like that's your thing right like it doesn't get old because that's what resonates with you like for me I'm like, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've been playing the same way for so long.
[SPEAKER_07]: I need to change it up right old bread and butter The old well, so if you only have limited saves and safe skyrim and you have 39 hundred hours
[SPEAKER_07]: Is there a point in again and save where you've done all of the quests that there are in the In the actual video game.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure so ironically and now if you say that I and I would say
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure I've missed something over the years just because these games are so immense, but funny enough you mentioned that I actually just discovered as a side effect.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know this was a thing and it is in completely vanilla Skyrim.
[SPEAKER_01]: So what is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: 15 years?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been in and out of Skyrim and I just found something new.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was listening to my friends over at Skyrimatic podcast and they mentioned in general
[SPEAKER_01]: completing these guild and really restoring it to prominence.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, what is what is that?
[SPEAKER_01]: They get into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, oh, yeah, no, I've never done it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've never done it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the guys, I forgot I might have been Victor who was like, oh, I tried doing it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I just couldn't take it anymore.
[SPEAKER_01]: What you have to do is when you complete the
[SPEAKER_01]: After that, if you continue to do radiant quests into the hundreds of them, it starts putting different sculptures that the guild has recollected on the wall, along with like eyes and I'm like, I can never do this.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a great idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they I'm pretty sure one of them was like, yeah, I got to 150 and I couldn't take it anymore I was so bored.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I have like that advice and I didn't know about that Because you never do it So you end up stealing from everybody in Skyrim There's no apparently you just eventually get some good stuff along way, but because I'm a sicko I was like, why need to do this now?
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm I'm gonna lie this is this is gonna be in chunks because I got to about 40 and I was like, we're gonna turn off sky
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's like irreparably changed the economy of the whole province.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_01]: We crashed in reals.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's insane.
[SPEAKER_07]: Everyone is just no possessions.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I will say that oftentimes I'll be like, what more could I possibly do here?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then something like that comes along and I'm like, right, I just found something new, which is wild to me when I heard that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I never know what that to be a thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I didn't know about that either.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we do a show about these things.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, stunned.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's the things that gives me, though, is that you guys mentioned it over on tales was like, there's nothing pointing to that.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's not no achievement, no mention of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just kind of happens.
[SPEAKER_03]: It just, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Was it art that was like, I wonder if the other guilds have that?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to see because they all have radiant style things, but I, again, had, had, they not mentioned it on scaram addict.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, this is something totally different and it's like it's sort of made sense though because like when I immediately went to go check it out There's a lot of places on that shelf with like the former eye and stuff like that that just had nothing there and I'm like Oh, that's kind of neat that it just steadily fills it out because I'm curious like what kind of crazy crap are they throwing on those walls that like yeah You know it's 75 of these things.
[SPEAKER_01]: What what did I did though?
[SPEAKER_06]: Like how did someone forget that out somebody's got to be very good because well the games been around long enough There are but just like just like the way that you guys lean into the one way you play your games Yes, there's somebody out there who's like all about radiant quests and That you know that they they're like oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's see if there's an end to this I'm just gonna keep playing them until until right stops like you really stop right
[SPEAKER_07]: There couldn't be radiant quests endless radius quests for every faction because like with a dark rather hood.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just murder and we're going to find a way somewhere a little more finite, we'll just block the husks for a finish line.
[SPEAKER_07]: Bring them back kill them again.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, is it at the end of the dark brother, do they just like sort of creating NPCs To for you to assassinate like random noble women or something like that Yeah, I feel like it does I feel as pencil sounds like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought I did it I hold on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you can you meet those characters and then abandon the quest?
[SPEAKER_03]: Are you can you just add extra characters Or kill them yeah
[SPEAKER_02]: 3,000 noble women now, I know there's so many noble things like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how you're waiting on it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, we're coming to speaking of contemplation.
[SPEAKER_06]: We're coming from all sorts of fun ways to bring the game.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's a very beautiful video.
[SPEAKER_06]: These are all videos, so many new things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my white run.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's 95% nobles.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, if it gets the cloud district though.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, we need to keep moving.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want to give everyone a chance to share.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mintaka, do you want to go?
[SPEAKER_06]: Would you like to share how you like playing in the game?
[SPEAKER_07]: So, I mean, okay, so the games of the series that I've played include ESO, Skyrim, Oblivion, and then some of the mobile games, which are not relevant, really, to my point.
[SPEAKER_07]: So like typically I'll start out with a particular build in mind like I will either try to do pure mage or in Skyrim I'll try to stick to something and then as time goes on I become an all
[SPEAKER_04]: And the long-term stuff, Arthur.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, the second thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: The funny thing is that I've only had one build that really turned into what was majority, stealth-archer.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I don't think I was trying to avoid it or anything.
[SPEAKER_07]: It just never happened.
[SPEAKER_07]: However, I found our tree in oblivion for the way harder than in Skyrim.
[SPEAKER_07]: So it never went that way.
[SPEAKER_07]: And, but I found also the magic in that was a little bit more difficult than any Skyrim, but it still worked out that way.
[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, so everything starts off with like a very clear plan, like these parameters we're going to be using this type of weapon or whatever, or we're going to have this type of armor and then slowly as the hours pass, it, you know, it expands and it takes
[SPEAKER_07]: 900 of a particular save.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's like, well, what else is there to do with myself, except become, you know, a stealth archer or whatever, or my mate is going to have to learn heavy armor to hand it right now.
[SPEAKER_07]: So there's no else to do.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's way harder later on in the game when you're like way low on those stats and everything else is more different.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, you get to enjoy being a baby again.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you go with the
[SPEAKER_03]: I guess, so like certain races are more geared towards certain things like, generally, you don't see many or images.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're just not around.
[SPEAKER_03]: You also don't see a whole lot of like battle-axe building else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you take that into account with your like,
[SPEAKER_03]: plan?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes, I usually do, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: I usually do try to fit it to what's going to be the most useful for the thing that I have in mind, and it works great, and then later on I go toward the other stuff.
[SPEAKER_07]: And then sometimes I'll do something very neutral, like I'll just be like, you know, like something that they could go any way, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: Like the latest guy around when I did it was just an imperial, so I could be boring, but
[SPEAKER_07]: but yeah well within oblivion you know like it seems to be much more relevant what you choose in some ways yeah do you have a favorite do you have like a favorite build that you've done like a um i'm really like i like playing uh i like playing a mage it also can use some weapons so kind of battle mage i guess um still light armor usually typically within like uh at least
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you think the conjure weapons or
[SPEAKER_07]: I, no, I typically don't.
[SPEAKER_07]: I typically just go for the actual weapons because I like them, but then, yeah, and then in ESO, I was a sorcerer, the most part.
[SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, that was pretty fun.
[SPEAKER_07]: I haven't played loads of ESO, but I really enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_07]: I used to play a lot of other MMOs, and I came pretty late to ESO, but I really liked the way that you can have many different characters and kind of like, try out every concept that you want.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: When you have you tried to do the same build in Skyrim that you had in a building like the battle mage for a oblivion feels like at least notice I've talked about this bit to me it feels like the like that's what the game is pulling you towards is battle mage.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Whereas like Skyrim is pulling you towards stealth archer, whether you choose to write out where or not.
[SPEAKER_06]: Have you tried doing the battle mage in Skyrim?
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you feel like you worked as well?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: I have.
[SPEAKER_07]: I did a simultaneous and I played a bliving.
[SPEAKER_07]: I put it a
[SPEAKER_07]: and it really screwed me up.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was kind of like, um, I was going to say it was really, really different lately.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the inside of the house and that would mess with me.
[SPEAKER_07]: I did.
[SPEAKER_07]: It is like taking in college.
[SPEAKER_07]: I took a Talian in French at the exact same time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, jeez.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_07]: Ah, hot.
[SPEAKER_07]: I learned them both.
[SPEAKER_07]: But it was just one weird moment where,
[SPEAKER_07]: The things were messy, right?
[SPEAKER_07]: And so I did do the, and so like I eventually, I was able to switch between the two games with no issues.
[SPEAKER_07]: So like my brain was running in two different, you know, um, I don't know, muscle memories or whatever, but in the beginning it was brutal.
[SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, I've tried it, I tried to replicate it and see like what would happen.
[SPEAKER_07]: And I actually liked it better in oblivion.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, yeah, did you find it more effective in oblivion than Skyrim?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I did.
[SPEAKER_07]: I found it more like I found destruction to be more satisfying in oblivion.
[SPEAKER_07]: I don't really know why.
[SPEAKER_07]: It was a little bit more difficult, but I liked it better.
[SPEAKER_03]: Challenging some great things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have I got a build for you?
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh yeah, what's that?
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, so I made a kajit a long time ago on like the original oblivion.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I made them look like a rat.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's almost, because you can totally mess up their faces.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, 100% can happen.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just cutting.
[SPEAKER_03]: I named him Rathue, Rathue for short, and I had a spell that they would just, any time I touch it in enemy, it would one shot them, and I named it the bubonic plague.
[SPEAKER_03]: Good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Perfect.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's, that's pretty good.
[SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean, I feel like that's one of the worst things you could do to because he like it makes them look like There should be loved his life got something worse, but I always said oblivion had way more satisfying magic than Skyrim just in general
[SPEAKER_03]: the calculation.
[SPEAKER_03]: There is the calculation in Skyrim, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just not as correct.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not as broken as in.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was going to say, yeah, oblivion has pretty pretty useful.
[SPEAKER_01]: spellcrafting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Scaram is just out the window with the sky with the spellcrafting and it's all just a restricted version of the nightmares you could make in more windrushes.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, there's no rules.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, well, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is totally broken.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, hey, we need to keep moving because I know some of you guys need to leave early.
[SPEAKER_06]: And Rob has to leave early.
[SPEAKER_06]: Who was the other one?
[SPEAKER_06]: Was it blinding or Falcon Falcon has to leave?
[SPEAKER_06]: The last few people to talk.
[SPEAKER_06]: So,
[SPEAKER_06]: with great well organized good job me which of you would like to share I can go yeah go go ahead rub
[SPEAKER_04]: I was trying to think of like what builds I would talk about because over the past, you know, hundreds of Episodes I've been on before.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've mentioned all the weird builds I've done and I've done like the no leveling anything at all build.
[SPEAKER_04]: That was a crazy hard challenge.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've done a wooden sword build.
[SPEAKER_04]: I need my character Serio Ferrell from Game of Thrones.
[SPEAKER_04]: I played like to the TI made him a redguard who had the outfit that looked just like Sierra Ferrell's outfit.
[SPEAKER_04]: He had leather gloves, which was the only armor that I was allowed to wear because in the show he wears leather gloves and playing clothes otherwise and I went the whole game with leather gloves as my only armor and it wouldn't sort as my only weapon and I beat the
[SPEAKER_04]: Shopped him a hundred a thousand times and finally a hundred thousand splinters until he used the feed And I really I kind of just I treat like Skyrim like Pokemon you know like the first time you beat it you play it normal You you play it quick and it's easy and then from there you're like, okay I need more challenge and so I just started adding restrictions like the nuzzlock challenge for Pokemon Or you just you keep making it harder for yourself and making the game more interesting
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's generally what I do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do have like normal characters that I just like to role play.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I have like specific themes and backstories planned for them.
[SPEAKER_04]: And always build them a certain way.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'll build them in ESO, Olivia and Skyrim, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: And they'll have slightly different iterations.
[SPEAKER_04]: So those are fun to role play.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then I'm like, no, I need more.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I just make it harder for myself by doing those ridiculous challenge builds.
[SPEAKER_06]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_06]: So do you if you had to pick one is there one that you would recommend other people do and be like this one was crazy You should try it
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, the wooden sword one is probably my favorite because it's very achievable and very silly.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, it doesn't take that much.
[SPEAKER_04]: You just upgrade your, you max out your smithing skill so that you can have the best wooden sword in all of the plans.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is the most powerful wooden sword.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've got to know though, like a fully upgraded wooden sword.
[SPEAKER_01]: What is that thing doing for damage do you remember?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember, like, I don't even know what a normal store does for damage to the government has been so long.
[SPEAKER_04]: The numbers are very small compared to ESF, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the other things.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I do know if you have like a max one handed skill, then even like an iron dagger is going to do a crap ton of damage.
[SPEAKER_04]: If your skill is high enough, so if you max that out enough, you're still going to do pretty good job, and then I I remember I did like the breath that lets, I think it's elemental fury where you get a like swing twice as fast So I just chop them up with my wooden sword twice as fast.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did you let yourself in, Chanth or can you in chant those?
[SPEAKER_04]: You can, you know, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: In fact, I think the leather gloves were just plain leather gloves.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's a slow thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it had like an armor rating on them, but like it was just otherwise just leather gloves.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I had to be very agile, had to be, you know, dodging all the hits, because I played this on legendary.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you're just a sad face at that point.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so like that one it's very achievable to do if you like those challenge builds that's the one I would probably recommend the most the no level build I would only recommend if you're a massacist and a sicko and just hate yourself because holy Frap I don't I think I had to shift down the difficulty from legendary because it was just impossible Yes, the same the Skyrim right Skyrim doesn't like yeah being doing it at a level one the whole world's like
[SPEAKER_03]: like a scamp, like as the hardest, like David, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and but you're still scripted to encounter dragons.
[SPEAKER_04]: So even if it's the weakest dragon in the game, your level one and you can't use any means to kill it that might give you experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you have to punch it to death at level one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Hold on.
[SPEAKER_03]: So not only are you not, you didn't like prevent yourself from gaining experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I did not see anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: I did not sell anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: I did not buy anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: I did not wear any armor.
[SPEAKER_04]: I did not wield any weapons.
[SPEAKER_04]: You cannot do anything again to any amount of experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's so much cooler than what I thought I was.
[SPEAKER_07]: So hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, it's not like, it's not like, it's not like, it's not like, it's not like, it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like it's not like
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's try it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and also punching things levels up in unarmed skill and right games there doesn't have a skill for that Yeah, so anything except Skyrim the gameplay would be you staring sternly at the screen until you stop playing Well, there's no options to move or breathe
[SPEAKER_04]: The, oh, you can get the gauntlets that boost your unarmed damage.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, you can't because that's wearing armor And if you wear armor, you're gonna level up your heavy armor skill.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, well, I'll just distance Shanta and put that effect on her ring No, that will level up your enchanting skills.
[SPEAKER_04]: Can't do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're just stuck You just need to be sad.
[SPEAKER_06]: You're like both the most capable game away from yourself You're the most capable and least capable person all at the same time
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I think I think I did, it was our goaning or kajid.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know kajid was the most optimal.
[SPEAKER_04]: I might have chosen our goaning just for fun because it was just like a little bit worse.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then if you become aware of wolf, that does not gain you any experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that gives you a way to deal with stronger enemies by doing the power attack with the werewolf swipes and not in them down.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's an arm damage.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just like punching.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so the Cajit bonus damage you have for being a Cajit or Argonion would actually stack on to the bonus you get as aware will for having not bonus an arm damage.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you can still like improve your stats and get a little bit better.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the ceiling is like 10 feet up and that's the game is 100,000 feet.
[SPEAKER_01]: The ceiling is like nothing more than a bunny hop.
[SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I do enjoy the idea of a Cajito, where will, too?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's the other side of the spot, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that looks like a rat, so it's a cat dog rat.
[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like a perfect, yeah, just get it, just get it really, get it all involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, yep.
[SPEAKER_07]: You can get rat puppy.
[SPEAKER_06]: Rob, this is some crazy stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: I really like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: You've gotten into grieving greater detail with some of the stuff we've talked about before.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's awful.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I want to get Falcon a chance before time runs out.
[SPEAKER_06]: Falcon, what do you want to share?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I also do like mainly challenge runs like Rob.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you have a stand in mind?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Recently I did, I played an orc named Lunk.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was unarmed, illiterate, so if I needed to read a note for a quest, I had to do it with a follower near me to justify they read it to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had to do.
[SPEAKER_07]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a big big dumb work.
[SPEAKER_02]: I like that one.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: Um, not stereotypical at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: Rob's gonna.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna tell you something about Orcson.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's whittling a wooden sword as you speak.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, let's see, uh, pulling myself up by my boot traps.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've talked about this in the Discord.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can only use stuff that I craft.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't loot anything if I, if I, if I want to make a sword, I got to go mind the, you know, go mind the ore. Yeah, I always like that one when you explain that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that one sounded pretty interesting.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: This fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: not overly obnoxious but like just enough that you have to like focus on like okay this is a pretty different way of playing but it's not just like i'm trying to find a way to grief myself yeah i try i tried to avoid buying stuff outside of like pickaxe and woodcutters x because i don't think you can craft those
[SPEAKER_01]: Unless I missed it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you're allowed to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I let myself buy those, but like I wouldn't buy armor from a merchant in that play-through I had to craft it had to make the sword and the one I'm doing right now.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's I just have to keep my carry weight between 40 and 50
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, go above that.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you just like like you limited a medicare which is probably more realistic like yeah, no, I was about it because when you think of like oh my carry weight is only 40 or 50 try carry in 40 or 50 pounds with you all day long.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_06]: that sucks yeah no like military gear like people in the military like I think their packs are 60 pounds or something like this like it's gonna say that's how we did runs before their miserable so it's like it's like in skierman's like oh no big deal I'm just gonna walk around with 575 pounds of warmer crap right yeah and just just have dragon bones don't worry they're not that funny
[SPEAKER_02]: But when I go back packing, I have 40 to 45 pounds on my back and I can't imagine trying to get in a fight with some of the great things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right in your long wait for me to go visit with that on my back.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, my God.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's killing me.
[SPEAKER_07]: It's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to forget everything always.
[SPEAKER_07]: You got to drop your pack.
[SPEAKER_07]: That's why I always wanted to go out in these books where they're narrating like a fight.
[SPEAKER_07]: And like these people were just on the road with tons of luggage.
[SPEAKER_07]: And now they're at a fight.
[SPEAKER_07]: Did you drop the 50-pound pack or no?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just an understanding that everybody places things neatly on the side of the road to then kill each other, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Or use that as the weapon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Put it down.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just swing the back back to that each other.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have a question.
[SPEAKER_07]: Please drop the answer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you, because when I do my challenge runs, I'm in over my head almost everything all the time, and so I have to like cheese it sometimes when I'm fighting the enemy that's too powerful, I will often run away as far as I can, and having them chase me intentionally, and I will bring them to a giant scamp.
[SPEAKER_02]: do you do anything like that do you have like those games or you can like still fall within the rules but you have them take care of it for me so yeah carry weight one if I receive an item it takes me above carry weight like like the acts of white run that's yeah that's the one he gives you that's enchanted yeah if there's an enchanting table or a way to dispose of it within the building that I receive it
[SPEAKER_02]: then my character is struggling to get it over there whatever, but he's allowed to carry it over there, but if there's nothing like I can't know where to sell it or disinchant to get rid of that carrier week, I just have to drop whatever it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: See that reminds me of a challenger on the two guys that seem to like the challenger on
[SPEAKER_03]: one item.
[SPEAKER_03]: You only get one.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you pick up another item, you get to drop that first one.
[SPEAKER_03]: One item.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, one thing at a time.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually pretty interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm currently doing a run like that on a different game.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a Celastia, like the D&D address and like gameable.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like every single party member gets one single item either.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good weapon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing else.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's got to be hard.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, peacecat in chat is asking if you guys play on survival mode.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, as I make it hard enough for myself, I don't do it like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Survival mode feels like cheap the way it makes it hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It makes the game more tedious rather than interesting in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some people love exactly what survival brings to the game.
[SPEAKER_04]: And for me, it's just like, no, that gives me more homework.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm here to make the challenge that I want to do more challenging not to just make this no longer fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can hear that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little mixed answer.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's some parts of the survival mode that I like and other parts of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, okay, I don't want to deal with this.
[SPEAKER_07]: old feature, because I live in Alaska and so is it called in Alaska's little bit, it just became spring on every south of Mexico.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I have an uncle who lives in Alaska for decades and I've gotten in and would spend parts of the year in a cabin away from the city on purpose and live off of like
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, there's a lot of people who do that.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, uh, not me.
[SPEAKER_07]: Not really.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I don't hear those.
[SPEAKER_07]: When I, there's a cognitive distance for me when my character gets into water with ice floating on top of it, like every alarm in my body is saying like what the hell are you doing?
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I do.
[SPEAKER_07]: She shaped that part of it where it's like,
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to go around this like I don't want to go through that water.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but then the sleep and food thing is not as interesting to me The cold thing.
[SPEAKER_07]: I do like to cold and maybe that's just because of you know who I am.
[SPEAKER_07]: I think I'm like yes I would be very cold here.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and there's a lot of mods that allow you to adjust all the survival stuff even more so then the base game and those probably what
[SPEAKER_07]: Kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, where you get to like choose how severe certain things are and how with things are on and off Which is pretty well, but I don't want to keep Rob and Falcon too long if you guys need to dip out in any moment Feel free if you if you want to say your goodbyes right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, we just kind of finish chatting Go go ahead and do your little hey everyone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thanks for being here thing and you want to press the button See what happens.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's see what Rob says
[SPEAKER_04]: Have you guys heard of Skype living in?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Boom.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks, please.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like talk or a quick talk.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll talk to you guys later.
[SPEAKER_06]: And feel free to stay as long as you can.
[SPEAKER_06]: You don't have to leave her away.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: She probably shouts just like the clock out in the audition.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's all there is to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Take care, guys.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thanks for making time to do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Falcon, anything you want to say before you leave?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Really do much.
[SPEAKER_06]: Cool, I hope you have a good rest here and I am free to hang out as long as you can.
[SPEAKER_02]: Good night.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, see you soon.
[SPEAKER_06]: So the one thing I wanted to bring up is you guys have heard me talk about role-playing characters and the naked wizard and you've been probably listening to some of those things I've done.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's today.
[SPEAKER_06]: I got into the Keysal role-playing servers.
[SPEAKER_06]: which is a thing that just has really come online in the last few weeks.
[SPEAKER_06]: What they do, you basically, you download, you go to the Keysall K-E-I-Z-A-A-L.com.
[SPEAKER_06]: You download their local client, it only works on PC, and then use their client to download a bunch of Nexus mods that set you up to be in a world with 650 other people.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's basically Skyrim role-playing where there are no NPCs run by the computer.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everyone is role-playing as a character in the world.
[SPEAKER_06]: So if you go into white run and you're looking for a blacksmith, you actually find somebody role-playing as a blacksmith and you buy something from them and they make it for you.
[SPEAKER_06]: or you bring them or and they're because they need more or for the things they're making or whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the whole world works this way.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can go to all these different cities.
[SPEAKER_06]: Everyone's running around.
[SPEAKER_06]: It took me a little bit to get it up and running because I had to do a fresh install of Skyrim and make sure everything was running, right?
[SPEAKER_06]: But once I got in, it just worked.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's a little laggy when there's lots of people running around.
[SPEAKER_06]: But other than that, it actually just works.
[SPEAKER_06]: And this, this even includes, like, it should be a tagline.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like I might have heard that somewhere before, but I'm sure it's not true.
[SPEAKER_03]: Can you go to the mountain?
[SPEAKER_06]: So you can go, there are dungeons, but the dungeons don't have the same enemies in them that you would expect them to have.
[SPEAKER_06]: And because everyone starts with like a wood axe, a pickaxe, some basic clothes, a little bit of money.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's all you have to begin with.
[SPEAKER_06]: And there are people walking around all decked out because they've been spent days working on someone's farm, collecting grain or whatever in order to make money, and then they went and bought gear, and then they went, it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought you were going to say like there's no the the enemies are supposed to be in the digits are there it's just like other players just on the player they're like walk in someone's just playing a druger and they're just chilling in a corner waiting for their moments I thought that's what you meant to that they weren't just enemies like sometimes you just have to be an enemy in it you have to be a bandit
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there are, you can be abandoned.
[SPEAKER_06]: So if you read on the website or if you go under their discord, you can see all the, there's a bunch of rules.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they will actually, like, enforce the rules.
[SPEAKER_06]: If somebody is breaking the rules, you will get arrested.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then you can even be, like, killed, killed.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, if you die, you resurrect in a temple somewhere.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if you RP die, then your character gets deleted.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you have to make a new character.
[SPEAKER_06]: And if you break the rules too much in a really not role-playing sort of way, you get kicked off the servers.
[SPEAKER_06]: They're super, super invested in making this actually work.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it does.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can walk around.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a button where you can hit the button and talk to other people.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can e-mote and do things.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can trade with them.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't pick up things in the world other than things that you can collect from skills.
[SPEAKER_06]: So for example, you can collect a bunch of ingredients off the ground like flowers and plants and things like that where you can go mine or you can cut wood and do those sorts of things.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if you come across like a, I don't know, a house somewhere with like a bag of gold, you can't pick up that bag of gold.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like all of that stuff is turned off so that you can't just go loot everything and become like super wealthy because everybody knows where all the loot is that sort of thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: But the dungeons are mixed up, there's different things in the dungeons, the enemies are difficult, so you're gonna have to spend time like actually being part of the world economy in order to make enough to go to a dungeon.
[SPEAKER_06]: So I only had a little while once I got it up and running today, and I think I might actually stream this live because it might be fun to get other people's ideas as we're playing through this, but I rolled a kajit.
[SPEAKER_06]: made a congee and his name was uh... uh... what was it wasn't it was something the honest i've sent a notice about this it was uh... play on the word uh... it was the word it was the word it was a fee bear he was fee bear the honest
[SPEAKER_06]: I was walking around white run and I was like you know I'm gonna do I'm gonna do the trade-up challenge So I picked a flower.
[SPEAKER_06]: I got a red flower off the ground and I walked up some of the hours like This one this one is trying to trade up for something of slightly higher value I have a flower.
[SPEAKER_06]: Do you have anything that is slightly more valuable than a flower in the guy was like, oh I got a pickaxe
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, that sounds wonderful.
[SPEAKER_06]: I had to trade you my food, I were a flea or a pickaxe.
[SPEAKER_06]: So it gives me the pickaxe.
[SPEAKER_06]: It went from something valued one to something valued 10.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, well, as 10 times the value, that's amazing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Then it went to Bliephal's Barrow, because I wanted to see what was inside when you went in.
[SPEAKER_06]: Turned out, it was a bunch of skeletons.
[SPEAKER_06]: But there were two guys hanging out at front.
[SPEAKER_06]: It was like a bread and a high elf.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they were depped.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were depped out in like Ebony Armor.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, like, really, like, they'd been playing for a while.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like, in this one, I'm up in my, my rags and I'm like, this one is just exploring the area.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, could you give me some tips for a new explorer and they're like, oh, well, if you want to buy the best gear, go to Falkreeth.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, fuck, where is that?
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, if you head down the, like, just have a conversation.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I was like,
[SPEAKER_06]: This one is also trying to trade up and explain it to him and I was like Do you have anything for a pickaxe and the high-off was like, yeah, I think I got something Opened up his inventory.
[SPEAKER_06]: I insert my pickaxe.
[SPEAKER_06]: He drops in a ruby and I was like what so it gives me a ruby That's where the hundred I just ten X might just hundred times the value of that flower in two trades And I was like this is amazing because everyone's just happy to roll play together and to just do stuff and it was so fun in just that like
[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, you could just be whoever you are doing your thing and there are legitimately people who are just acting as city guards or Working a farm.
[SPEAKER_06]: In fact, you go up to a farm.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can't pick the plants off the farm because you're not whitelisted to work on the farm.
[SPEAKER_06]: Somebody owns that plot of land and has to hire you and give you Vip Vruble to work on the farm
[SPEAKER_07]: Just like you want to actually steal people's farm produce.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Just wouldn't download it.
[SPEAKER_07]: You did.
[SPEAKER_07]: You wouldn't download a cabbage.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So that seems like a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_06]: Also, you can do magic, but you have to go to the college and you have to learn it from somebody or you have to buy the books to learn them from the college.
[SPEAKER_06]: So most people are running around not able to do magic, which kind of makes sense.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like everyone's a little bit magically inclined, but nobody's going to be really good at it unless they really invest in it.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, it was really impressive, like it didn't just work.
[SPEAKER_06]: It just worked.
[SPEAKER_06]: You know, Skyrim together has been like super janky for a long time now.
[SPEAKER_06]: This was 600, I think when I was on there was like 590 people just running around, doing their things.
[SPEAKER_03]: Impressive.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and everyone went to them.
[SPEAKER_06]: And everyone, when you talk to them was like role-playing their character.
[SPEAKER_06]: They were not, and people were not breaking character.
[SPEAKER_06]: People were doing voices and like,
[SPEAKER_06]: Super, super cool for a little bit.
[SPEAKER_06]: I was able to play today.
[SPEAKER_07]: So, that was a difficult to like be allowed to join the server.
[SPEAKER_07]: No, you kind of like, no, okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: You have to, you get on the discord.
[SPEAKER_06]: And if you go to that site, K-E-I-Z-A-A-L.com.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can just follow the instructions.
[SPEAKER_06]: But you basically log into their discord.
[SPEAKER_06]: You have to confirm the discord link through their little app that you download.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then you download the mods, and then you just get right in.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I think there's like, there's three servers right now.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a white listed one, which is I think the people who were like officially approved.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then there are two public ones.
[SPEAKER_06]: But even the public one I got on was like, totally fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody was just like, or I'm sure they moved long enough that you're not a nuisance in the public one.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to wreck this for everybody else who's more interested in actually doing this thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you get the like Pinky's up server.
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.
[SPEAKER_06]: And they're adding stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: You can look on their whole list of things they add every week or two.
[SPEAKER_06]: They'll add new, in fact, they'll update their mods so that you have more functionality in the world for other stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, and you asked about bandits.
[SPEAKER_06]: There's a rule that you can form bandits.
[SPEAKER_06]: And the bandits, the size of your band again can only be so big.
[SPEAKER_06]: and can only operate in certain ways that are legal to the servers.
[SPEAKER_06]: But if you want to be bandits, you can be bandits.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you roll play like holding people up on the side of the road and like telling them to give you, and you can't steal all their stuff, but you can ask for tribute.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you can be like, it's five gold to pass by or whatever.
[SPEAKER_06]: And then you and your buddies are like, hold people up and then that person gets their money stalled, and then they run to town and then they tell the guards and then the guards come and try to deal with the bandits.
[SPEAKER_06]: It just works because everyone's legitimately just role-playing what they're supposed to do in that world.
[SPEAKER_06]: Is there like a guild of climbers and tentant for the bandits or like I don't know like I haven't dug that deep into it But I have a feeling that like like if if we got a group together We could probably have a community in one of the cities somewhere where we're all working together like certain people are gathering certain things Or we could become like an adventurer's guild and we can and so here's another feature if you go into the cities There are yeah, I'm sure we could find ways to break it But you go into the cities there are our boards up
[SPEAKER_06]: And you have that you can get like mods that have like little post-it boards that are basically, you know, the radiant quest or whatever, just all posted on a board.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, these are legitimate quests posted by players.
[SPEAKER_06]: So somebody might say something like, I'm, you know, I'm a collector.
[SPEAKER_06]: I want the head of an ogre.
[SPEAKER_06]: I need some adventures to go kill an ogre for me.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so like we have an adventures guild that goes and does those quests and brings people
[SPEAKER_03]: It might go sign up for that after this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it's pretty appealing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'll put a on our discord.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'll put a channel for Skyrim RP.
[SPEAKER_06]: And so if I don't have to be the one that's running.
[SPEAKER_06]: If like any of you guys or anyone listening to this episode, just super into it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And you guys want to help coordinate stuff.
[SPEAKER_06]: Go for it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Don't wait for me to do it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And I'll try to be as involved as I can and and I've been thinking about like role playing some stuff like I want to do So one of the things I want to do is kind of like the the naked wizard kind of thing kind of like the old guy But I want to see if I can like make money from people by like doing things like Old man, pay me for a riddle.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, you give me give me three septum And I'll tell you a riddle and then the riddle doesn't make any sense, you know
[SPEAKER_03]: Man wait a minute So I want to do stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_07]: I want to see you like Mike the liar makes his money.
[SPEAKER_07]: Right right and then you just say a lie for a dollar or whatever Right really I check Mike
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say Tom, this is like the ultimate, like if it's a roleplaying server, I expect these people to not only enjoy roleplay, but to also enjoy the Elder Scrolls.
[SPEAKER_01]: You need to just ask them the noxious riddles from arena that they used to verify that you bought the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so to have like a list of those, but then I want to use all that money for the old man to buy a bunch of like actual spells, but then I kind of want in fact I was I wanted to name him something Something the the pantalists or something like that and so he'd be he's not the naked wizard, but he just has no pants and everyone thinks he's a bum But then also like just put all of the money he makes into like higher and higher levels spells
[SPEAKER_06]: So he's like dangerous, powerful and everyone underestimates him, because they just think he's in his hands.
[SPEAKER_07]: But he still doesn't ever buy pants.
[SPEAKER_06]: And he never buys pants.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Talk.
[SPEAKER_00]: Talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: like farming in games, like if I want to go build something, I have a tendency to like dump hours and hours into it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I will dedicate my time to making you the most powerful with you.
[SPEAKER_06]: That would be amazing, that would be amazing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, what if we took over, like, I don't know, just in one of the little towns somewhere, like Riverwood or something like that.
[SPEAKER_06]: And that was like our little home base, and we like, we all operated out of there.
[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know, we could pick a different place, but just something like that, you know?
[SPEAKER_06]: So anyway, that's that's what I've been diving into because I just I noticed this a few months ago And I was like this is really interesting.
[SPEAKER_06]: I wonder if it's gonna go anywhere and then it came back up recently as I would know some other people streaming it And I was like wait, it's actually like it's up and it works.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's really
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll let the year it's working for people because it seems like something you kind of need people to cooperate for because it'd be so easy to just ruin it for other people, which now a day is just what people do so it's like It sounds really cool that people are just like it's small enough it's niche enough that it's like now there's not enough room for other people like we've got our community of people that actually want to do this and if you don't you don't have to be here
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and the fact that it's heavily, like, moderated, it sounds like, yes, yes.
[SPEAKER_07]: If you do start causing a ruckus, you're out of there, and this is pretty interesting.
[SPEAKER_06]: I would highly recommend, before you get into it, go on the discord, read through the rules, because it is very specific about, like, this takes place, of post to the events of the game skyrim.
[SPEAKER_06]: And when you're in the world, you only know things that you would know as your character in the world.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you can't refer to things, and on top of it, if you are playing with other players, and especially other friends, you really should only know things that your character knows.
[SPEAKER_06]: You shouldn't know things because your friend told you something.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So you have to actually roll play in the world and be like, Oh, you're explaining to me this thing.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay, we'll go do that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, be fun if things like section people off as opposed to just needing to delete them from the server They just like soul-stimes actually just like Time you know, Australia where they just should have it all the criminals.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, but I can only play in one little area And they all just need each other that one so all you can do is grief each other Yeah, do you have to test mania?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I would love that too though like some people that's they just
[SPEAKER_07]: They probably want that.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, maybe Barke and Chad is asking if necromancy is allowed.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_06]: I haven't read anything About that.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's very like in game too.
[SPEAKER_06]: So like yeah, yeah, and I'm sure it's gonna get more and more developed as we go As we as I'm already part of this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like I'm I'm part of this.
[SPEAKER_06]: I have nothing to do with how he logged in there.
[SPEAKER_01]: You've made your impact to the world
[SPEAKER_06]: But I don't know, I would love different ideas if we could have like a group idea of just some group that is like coordinated with a goal that would be a lot of fun with different roles and that kind of thing we kind of planned that out.
[SPEAKER_06]: So just something to consider because I thought it was a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I definitely be really looking to that.
[SPEAKER_07]: That sounds pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So again, K-E-I-Z-A-L-Kisle role play, Skyrim, you look up that stuff, it'll come up.
[SPEAKER_06]: And it's, unfortunately, of course, it's only PC because PC, you can't really do this on a console.
[SPEAKER_06]: But they don't know that that would work on a console.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah, and I've been on server 2.
[SPEAKER_06]: Public 2 is the one I logged into with my Kajit.
[SPEAKER_06]: So maybe we'll stick with that one.
[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, we're at the end of the show, time to wrap it up.
[SPEAKER_06]: We've got Mintaka and Bliny Vision, just the two of you, everyone else left.
[SPEAKER_06]: Mintaka, any last thoughts, any anything else you want to share?
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, no, not really.
[SPEAKER_07]: Uh, super thrilled I was able to make it again.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, totally.
[SPEAKER_06]: Thanks for being here.
[SPEAKER_06]: blinding anything else.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing specific.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you guys heard of the sky-blubian project?
[SPEAKER_06]: Let's see what Rob has to say about that.
[SPEAKER_03]: No way.
[SPEAKER_01]: No way.
[SPEAKER_03]: He hasn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: What?
[SPEAKER_04]: I thought he knew about it, but I guess not.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like orgs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh yeah, he likes orgs.
[SPEAKER_04]: Same.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Also check out Tana Grill, Fall of Babylon.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think they just dropped another DLC for free.
[SPEAKER_03]: Today, I think I'm not sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got a notification about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_06]: Awesome, awesome.
[SPEAKER_06]: Lotus, anything else before we thank our patrons and all of them?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was going to say our plan is to try to coordinate schedules and record an episode of USP's Tales of Tamriel this weekend, just to discuss all of the night market stuff that has now landed on console and PC.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've only got to mess with it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Ark has been sacrificing all of his sleep and doesn't seem to do anything except play it, currently, which is...
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I don't know how to handle this.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a while since I've played this much ESO, but he's like, it's already impacting my sleep, which is problematic.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he's very positive about it.
[SPEAKER_06]: And a lot of people had read it, like the first hour, it was that we're like, oh my God, it's so hard to be this sucks.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's the thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a very...
[SPEAKER_01]: This is for people who like challenge stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is not for people who are just there for the story or there for relaxing thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: That is literally not what this is designed for.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was designed to be group content for people that wanted a challenge.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if that does not sound appealing, I would pass on this because that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what you need to get with it.
[SPEAKER_06]: I think we just need to be okay with an MMO having features that aren't for everyone.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yes, Michael, I know, I'm not sad that fishing is a thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if people like to fish, go fish, you know, yeah, there's not a lot of us that literally like playing every aspect of the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And there's some that I definitely enjoy more than others.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it is what it is.
[SPEAKER_01]: it seems like if you're looking for a challenging group content, but not the type of group content, ironically, something I've been talking about for a while, where I'm like, I love trials and dungeons and stuff like that, but the formula of
[SPEAKER_01]: run this on the hardest difficulty and have nobody in your group die and do it really fast and by the way, it relates to all of you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you go and do it and you don't die, I don't care.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't count still because everybody needs it.
[SPEAKER_01]: That formula has been fun, but I feel like it's sort of run its course as far as I can say.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's like,
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, between the dungeons and trials is going to be about 50 different, 50, 60 different, it's okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, like this is just kind of like group with a hoard and you can run around and you can be coordinated for stuff and there's mechanics, but it's not a nobody can die in the scenario.
[SPEAKER_01]: From the little I've played everybody dies in the scenario.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just an all of them like you get randoms flying off cliffs and they're getting blown a bit And stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it seemed pretty fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely this weekend my At least my dungeon team potentially my old trial team.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're all going to go on as a group
[SPEAKER_01]: and we're going to run it like we're going to run into there and then obviously you can do way more than just a 12-man trial type of thing but like we did it for charity events before where it was like oh let's see how many dragons we can kill and there were some randoms you know fighting the dragons and stuff like that or whatever I say the dragons just because they tend to be
[SPEAKER_01]: as a joke we ran in as our coordinated trial team and we obliterated the thing so fast people in zone were just like what's with the organized death ball and it was just a running fan thing the thing just about it was like well we're used to fighting things with 250 million xp or at hit points this thing has 19 million it's like it's dead so fast we can barely look at it because we're used to you know
[SPEAKER_01]: You geared hard for a much larger stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, but it's fun to be able to do that in an overworld setting rather than an instant setting.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really excited to dive into this and spend some time with it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's also fun to do normal trials with a group like that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, bring 11 of your group members and pick up a random from like, be a... We actually have no, yeah, I was gonna say, we actually were...
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an older trial, but it's my favorite one, it's still the Moveler Caj, and there was, it's still also one of the best skins I feel in the game.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, yeah, it's very cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's black cat with the lightning bolts type of thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And for a long time, that was the most coveted thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we were just trying to set the server record for a while.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if we botched it and like somebody died, one person from the group would drop, and we would send it in fight, looking for one, to just one of our things.
[SPEAKER_01]: And somebody would come in and we would just immediately give them the skin and they'd just be like, I don't even know what's happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Why is everything dying so fast?
[SPEAKER_01]: We're like, yeah, we were like, it's a poor push girl, but here, have a free skin and so many people are just like, oh my god, I've never even seen this.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is amazing.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, all right, so many was by, like, that's awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, stuff like that can be super fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: My god-slayer team did that for a friend of mine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, in the day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pull them into the last boss instance when someone had to drop.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's just it.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, that's super fun when you couldn't list, like, show some because often times,
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes when they see it, they're going to like, oh, maybe I actually want to get involved with this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this seems kind of fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll start obviously I'm not going to jump right into something crazy, like, difficult, like that type of deal.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like, oh, this actually, I could be part of something like this.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know people that that's how they've kind of gotten started.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, that was actually pretty fun.
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really do much.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I want to know how it works.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, right, right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: So, go play yourself.
[SPEAKER_06]: More of the story.
[SPEAKER_06]: Find it.
[SPEAKER_06]: Find Lotus is a group and have them carry you through stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: See if we can start ball through whatever we're fighting.
[SPEAKER_06]: Yep, yep.
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I already talked about what I was doing recently, but also you can check out the Lord of the Rings Lord cast in the fall or cast in Retro Recall.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Mario 1 just came out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, no, yeah, someone's going to guess it it's going to come up one of these days.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is eventually it's going to be Or I'm happy you're going to just sound animation Mars I've been talking to you on a guess.
[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_07]: Um, is that ESO?
[SPEAKER_06]: It's not ESO, no.
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So this is clearly the most likely at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go with Skyrun then.
[SPEAKER_06]: That's more a wind.
[SPEAKER_06]: It's under people, merchants, and trainers, Raviso and Dallas, and Dark Elf Savans, who can be found at the Red Run, a stronghold in Mollegmar, he offers medium training in Mercantile and speechcraft, minor training and athletics, and will barter in books, though he doesn't have any to sell.
[SPEAKER_06]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_06]: All right.
[SPEAKER_06]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sounds oddly worded, even for like a wiki.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So here's your buy them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Buy books.
[SPEAKER_01]: He'll buy books.
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you sell him the books, can you then buy them back?
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we should go try it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Challenge run.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_06]: On today's challenge run, I tried to find all the books.
[SPEAKER_06]: Reviso endless and Allen's find sell him every book in the entire game.
[SPEAKER_01]: Which ones am I allowed to buy back?
[SPEAKER_06]: All right everybody.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I love all the different comments and things.
[SPEAKER_06]: We can't always respond to everything, but so glad that you're here.
[SPEAKER_06]: And we're reading all the comments.
[SPEAKER_06]: And, uh, Lotus and I will be back next week with another Iceberg episode, most likely.
[SPEAKER_06]: I've, that's what the plan is so far.
[SPEAKER_06]: And let's something crazy happens when we just have to go downstairs.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that works.
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks.
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