[SPEAKER_01]: It's political, thank you, radical.
[SPEAKER_01]: You think it's a part of whatever you want, the politics part.
[SPEAKER_02]: The shotsmith, Harrison, Jodie Hamilton.
[SPEAKER_08]: Hi, Jodie.
[SPEAKER_08]: Hi, Sean.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ha ha ha ha.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: What an afternoon.
[SPEAKER_04]: What a day.
[SPEAKER_08]: What a day indeed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it would be best if we talk about it tonight.
[SPEAKER_08]: If we have some individual liberty.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Or maybe, maybe if you're one of these future people, you could have actually potentially told us about this.
[SPEAKER_04]: No kidding.
[SPEAKER_04]: Holy freaking free hollies.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, by the way, thank you to all of you subscribe who also at the politicsbar.com.
[SPEAKER_04]: Before we came to the bar earlier today, so I was literally leaving my place to come get ready.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think you were finishing up at Bob's head and over to come to the bar.
[SPEAKER_04]: We take our time, we get here, and then we're like, and I'm like, oh yeah, have you heard about this?
[SPEAKER_04]: You literally must have hit the streets just before Bob found out about it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I'm sure we were done as soon as he found out, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I mean, that's the typical thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bob says Capodcast airs, moments later, something drops, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Good drink.
[SPEAKER_04]: We have a good drink at the table.
[SPEAKER_04]: We do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we do honoring honoring somebody, um, excellent.
[SPEAKER_04]: A real hero from both sides of the pond.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll just say absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: There we go.
[SPEAKER_04]: But somebody who was, um, I don't know, maybe she will end up being heroic today.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just we aired obviously you guys have heard well, maybe you haven't heard.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so we were set today, and we will obviously talk about the ceasefire this ceasefire in air quotes These are well, it's tentatively holding they're they're they're they're all holding there.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's you live in Lebanon No, even there they've started to stop so which I'm gonna go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, whatever we'll we'll talk about that in a little bit, but
[SPEAKER_04]: You gotta go down a little bit today into the third round, turmoil in accountability land.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, we're, we're sitting here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, okay, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm checking my stuff, checking my files.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, okay, I'm gonna go walk the dog and then I gotta go go to the barn, get a seat, Jody, and that'll be kinda cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I look up on the TV and I hear Mulani Trump.
[SPEAKER_04]: or actually I see because it's muted and I see Melania Trump and I'm like what the hell?
[SPEAKER_04]: I guess he was given some kind of a statement and I see the little thing, the Cairo.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, Cairo, thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: On the bottom from Cspan, first lady Melania Trump speaks at White House and I'm like, okay, what, what, then I turn on the audio.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never been friends with Epstein.
[SPEAKER_00]: Donald and I were invited to the same parties, as we have seen from time to time, since overlapping in social circles is common in New York City and Palm Beach.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'll agree with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never had a relationship with Epstein for his accomplice.
[SPEAKER_00]: My email reply to Maxwell cannot be categorized as anything more than casual correspondence.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you know, as as I see this and I'm like, are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_04]: I must have like, you know, hit delay or something.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was on delay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I quick jump to the socials and over on Blue Sky, Bob Syska right there has, you know, bizarre flipping of the script looks like they're using Epstein to distract from a rant and then he has the clip of Melania.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he falls it up with the email to Max.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, was signed love Melania.
[SPEAKER_08]: It was.
[SPEAKER_08]: We can all access it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Much of us, we, okay, we have got to talk to somebody one of the members of our legal bar here at the politics bar to find out
[SPEAKER_08]: is there does she have some kind of legal conveniently we happen to have bar McWayne to John Fugelsan could not make it he is interviewing Martin Schene as we speak which is why he couldn't be here so I said to give him our love to Mr. Schene our uncle Martin our love and so he will be next we he will be here next week and he apologizes he likes doing the show so he was he was blunt he was missing it but I was like hey it's Martin Schene
[SPEAKER_08]: We always love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that too.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yeah, I mean, you know, when when the other form of president, right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, but okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're like, okay, but it's convenient that Barb is coming in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because we honestly, we can ask her about this.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know, and you and I know, for those people who may not know, can you explain to them what strike-sanding is, some people, even though it's like 50 years old now, they felt that.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's been why it wasn't at a house or something.
[SPEAKER_08]: Barbara Streisand was upset because somebody pegged where her house was or something I forget what this story was.
[SPEAKER_04]: Late 70s, early 80s, and she got very upset about it.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think she wanted to sue, and then this is pre, you know, social media.
[SPEAKER_08]: All of a sudden now, everybody knew where she lived.
[SPEAKER_08]: Had she just not set anything, less people would have seen it, y'all.
[SPEAKER_08]: You like the privately angry thing.
[SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_08]: I understood, I understand what she was doing.
[SPEAKER_08]: I get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: She went out, but she went out to the media.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it was like, and something that nobody was paying attention to.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, I mean, I'm sure a few entertainment lawyers and blah, blah, blah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, no, I mean, when I was growing up,
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you know, and so when we when my parents sold the first house I lived in
[SPEAKER_08]: Uh, the people that bought the home, who my friends with their son, who's not kidding.
[SPEAKER_08]: And, and the, the, the, his dad just passed away.
[SPEAKER_08]: So they lived in our, yeah, it's very, very, very, very talented producer, by the way.
[SPEAKER_08]: But, um, so when we sold the house to them, when my parents sold the house to them, they changed the address, because there wasn't, there was enough,
[SPEAKER_04]: new numerical space.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, there was enough space between and so they changed it from 600 Nortau Hini Road to 612 Nortau Hini Road because 600 Nortau Hini Road was where my mom lived.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so they would drive by and they couldn't, you know, unless they already knew, unless the driver knew, unless they knew they didn't know.
[SPEAKER_08]: Right, if you're in one of those tourist things, they knew, but if you just picked up a star map, which I don't even think they sell them anymore, but if you just pick up a star map, you wouldn't have found the house.
[SPEAKER_08]: Because when they first moved in, people would literally knock on the door.
[SPEAKER_04]: But this is this is I mean this this was the only thing she had it was it was okay I admit admittedly since we no longer have an east wing but it was the the backdrop behind her was set up like the east wing couple of flags on either side uh open doors with the sunny window behind her um she had more to say here let me play more of this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I am not abstinence victim.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absent did not introduce me to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: I met my husband by chance.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you did.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the New York City Party in 1998.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's worse here.
[SPEAKER_00]: This initial encounter with my husband is documented in a detail in my book, Talaania.
[SPEAKER_08]: Naturally.
[SPEAKER_08]: Please buy my book.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm throwing someone under the bus.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think she's throwing her husband under the bus.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if it's him or if it happens to be Pam Bondi.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think it's both.
[SPEAKER_08]: Maybe she's jealous of Bondi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, look, Pammy was crying her ass off and everybody was like, why was she crying?
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, please.
[SPEAKER_08]: On their way to the scotest thing or on their way back is when he fired her.
[SPEAKER_04]: She had more.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, it would be best if we listen to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So here it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now is the time for Congress to act.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Epstein was not alone.
[SPEAKER_08]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Several prominent male executives resign from their powerful position.
[SPEAKER_00]: Unlike your husband's matter, became widely politicized.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: This doesn't amount to guilt, but we still must work openly and transparently don't cover the truth.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's not wrong.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm with her on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I hope she can join us on that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Provide the women who have been victimized by abstine.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: Hearing specifically centered around the survivors.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, let's do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: If this victim's their opportunity to testify under oath,
[SPEAKER_00]: in front of Congress with the power of sworn testimony.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I'd love that.
[SPEAKER_04]: All righty.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you know what?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't usually give applause to Melania Trump.
[SPEAKER_04]: But for that, I will say at least the end of it there, Melania Trump was right.
[SPEAKER_08]: How about the 13 year old who was interviewed as an adult?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_08]: By the FBI four times, let's let her do it, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely, Jody is right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Melania nobody was talking nobody other other than other than Democrats who they are they are still pushing and five other members of the oversight committee Don't include Nancy May's Thomas Massey obviously.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think Lauren Bobert there are a few that are Republicans.
[SPEAKER_04]: What is it?
[SPEAKER_04]: There's I think 16 members of the oversight committee which basically means all the three yeah
[SPEAKER_04]: are saying that they still want to be a pan body and they're like, look, fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: If she can't testify next Tuesday, she can still testify at some point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Get her ass in here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's not worried about jail time though, because the scotist just overturned, we'll talk to Barbara about this.
[SPEAKER_08]: But, oh God, yeah, the... See, Bannon's conviction has now been, and they didn't even release it.
[SPEAKER_08]: We'll ask her, because I don't think they released why or who voted for it.
[SPEAKER_08]: I assume it's five.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we'll ask about that whole thing about the abandoned contempt of Congress thing, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: God.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, that's just... Because now, Bonnie's not afraid.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe, maybe not.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bonnie may still be afraid because remember the stuff that they may be asking as far as as Bonnie goes is she has all that time for when she was the Florida attorney general.
[SPEAKER_04]: So no executive privilege there, no executive privilege, no nothing from the White House protecting her ass there and it pertains to the stuff that they want to know.
[SPEAKER_04]: She has no protection whatsoever.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's still gonna claim it and it just played the fifth lady.
[SPEAKER_04]: We know you're guilty.
[SPEAKER_04]: She can try it and I'll take it to a judge and judge it go.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, she can play the fifth.
[SPEAKER_08]: She has the right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but as soon as you played the fifth, then people go, Rory, he he he he.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, that's when Donald says if you've played the fifth, you're guilty, right?
[SPEAKER_08]: Isn't he said that?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's the joke.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what Donald was said.
[SPEAKER_04]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: He's also dangling a pardon in front of her.
[SPEAKER_04]: No matter, remember, again, state crimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was the Florida attorney general.
[SPEAKER_04]: She didn't do anything.
[SPEAKER_04]: She should have done stuff.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's done more crime as a federal person.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: But at that point, then you charge her ass.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you pit her against the federal crimes.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you say, look, we can get you on these girl.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if you tell us about this, then we don't have the, then you know what I'm worried about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you tell us, see this?
[SPEAKER_08]: I've always wondered why people once their pardon don't speak because then they're completely exonerated and free from any crime, so they're not, they're not exonerated when you accept a pardon, you are exonerated.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you're guilty.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, no.
[SPEAKER_08]: I understand that, but once you accept it, why can't you then speak?
[SPEAKER_08]: Why does it stop people from talking there?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, they're part of the bar, I'm sure she knows and she'll totally understand.
[SPEAKER_08]: I've never understood, it's like an immunity deal.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's like...
[SPEAKER_08]: You're good.
[SPEAKER_04]: It depends on how the community is carved, but I'm sure they're going this is this was not a subject that was on most people's docket to talk about most of us today.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now we were we're talking about this very tentative ceasefire and the fact that everybody is standing around saying don't nobody move don't nobody blown nothing up.
[SPEAKER_04]: All right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody just stay stay stay stay stay stay stay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, look.
[SPEAKER_04]: Say she will pony boy, but yeah, no, that they go all the pony boy.
[UNKNOWN]: Just a golden.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, whoo.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's a Thursday night.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just a normal Thursday night.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: In for John, what's we talking about the news?
[SPEAKER_04]: Having to have a couple of drinks talking about World War Two and three and
[SPEAKER_08]: It's just a normal Thursday, right?
[SPEAKER_08]: Totally.
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I think I think it was on Karen and Anita.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk about that.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Mmm, Karen the morning and Karen in the evening.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still I'm still stuck on the maligny thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like are you
[SPEAKER_08]: I don't get it, like I was saying, during the commercials, why now?
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, if she was going to come out and denounce everything when that first dumped in January.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I mean, house, he could have done it years ago.
[SPEAKER_08]: Years ago, but Amy, let's say when the law passed and all that stuff, like in December, she could have come out then, but why now?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, this is pure speculation on my part, but.
[SPEAKER_04]: There has been speculation for ages that maybe certain people felt that Pam Bondi was a little too hot and a little too close to Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_08]: She might be jealous of her.
[SPEAKER_04]: And in which case this would be the perfect time to be like for her to be like, well, you know, you can clear a lot of this up if you just ask Pammy and there's the truck goes Drives over Pam multiple times.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, that's but she wants to metaphorical trust.
[SPEAKER_08]: She wants the survivors to testify and most of them have a lot to say about her husband.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I mean, you know, if you happen to be thinking that somebody happens to be doing that, and maybe you understand your pre-marital clause pretty well.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's something involved with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, she had a good lawyer.
[SPEAKER_08]: There's a lot of stuff that if she had a good lawyer before the pre-enip, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's entirely possible.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just looking at it and saying,
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no logical reason, other than something nefarious that out of the blue for no reason.
[SPEAKER_04]: Literally, for those of you who have not yet seen it, you should go on our socials.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll make sure that all the clips that we can see or whatever is there.
[SPEAKER_04]: But,
[SPEAKER_04]: She literally it was just the standard scene that you would see in something like this, you know, the window with the sunlight behind it in the center with the door standing and the little podium up front one flag on either side of the door.
[SPEAKER_04]: She walks down a little walkway to the podium gives her speel about Epstein turns on her heel ignores questions door's close.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm trying to remember any other first lady doing something like anything close like that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Whenever, whenever Secretary Clinton spoke, it was always a sit-down kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Most first ladies, when they speak to camera on any of that type, they're sitting.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a frame.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a sit-down.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a homie kind of a thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's because they're the first lady.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, almost Katy Brett like, yes.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so I just, I cannot remember any first lady going to a,
[SPEAKER_08]: Electorn to speak to these United States.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I'm podium with something you stand out.
[SPEAKER_08]: I learned that.
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[SPEAKER_08]: She's not the president.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, if she were the VP or something, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was she was dressed in pack of blinks.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was fantastic.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: But whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: But the fact of the matter is, she just goes out there, drops this bomb.
[SPEAKER_04]: Subject bomb turns around and walks away.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's literally she may as well have walked out there, pulled a pinner grenade through it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Turn on her heel, walked away, shut the doors.
[SPEAKER_04]: and kablui behind her and you just see the her hair blow in the river shot of her walking towards the camera or or you yeah you see that the shot you know from the backstage there and it's just you know she's there just kind of blows we didn't blow past her by her hair looks fantastic yeah i i some all i'm saying is
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no reason that she would come out and do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't get it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which is why I absolutely laughed my ass off when I saw Bob Cesska's post over on Blue Sky.
[SPEAKER_04]: Saying in a bizarre flipping of the script looks like they're using Epstein to distract from Iran.
[SPEAKER_04]: because everybody was talking about this this ceasefire today, which we should to it happens to be in the first round of the news on a day.
[SPEAKER_08]: Is it a ceasefire?
[SPEAKER_04]: It is an actual ceasefire of pretty much everybody has, well, as you can see in the news collage today.
[SPEAKER_04]: So you got the press never ran.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got JD who was like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha,
[SPEAKER_08]: Will baby was at the sit room and talk Donnie and Pete into this whole mess?
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, that's we had that story yesterday.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you guys missed it was in the New York Times, there was a gift link in yesterday's news on tap so you can go and read it for free even if you don't have a subscription.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, Alex Garbra, if that is against the law.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have that on my list of questions to ask you, I don't remember how you said that we wanted to ask for that today, and I'm absolutely, but so that there is a ceasefire, more than 180 people were killed in Israeli strikes in central bay route yesterday.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's the most in one hit, yeah, certainly since since we bombed the girls.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's not it's.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, everything over there is tentative and vance is blaming a quote unquote legitimate misunderstanding.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, well, okay, so the Pakistani either vice prime minister or prime minister, whoever was.
[SPEAKER_08]: Where Pakistanis are trying.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, they're working their asses off.
[SPEAKER_08]: And they have nuke by the way, just to remind people, good reminder, thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: They do.
[SPEAKER_04]: But when they put their statement out,
[SPEAKER_04]: It was in Farsi, but in Farsi, Persian, same thing for those of you who don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Farsi, it said that Lebanon was part of this deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's why when I said yesterday, last night, when I said that it sounded like Donald was going, well, that's part of it because they told me somebody probably told him that was part of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody who actually understood Farsi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Clearly, a lot of other people in the Trump regime do not understand in part because they fire people, yeah, they fired all the people who actually know farcey.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, it's kind of an important language to know for the Middle East considering the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Farcey is Persian and Persia.
[SPEAKER_04]: is Iran or at least much of Persia if you know your world history.
[SPEAKER_08]: I believe that Mr. Nansk knows Farsi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes, he does.
[SPEAKER_04]: One thing I wish to ask Malcolm at some point here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Everyone came back and asked him.
[SPEAKER_04]: But yes, um, so they included it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Vans had to go out there like a complete stop and just say, well, I think it was a, well, Ms. Understanding
[SPEAKER_04]: And here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think several multiple million people understand Farsi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Net Yahoo.
[SPEAKER_08]: He understands it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember if he understands Farsi, but I know that there are a ton of people in his intelligence.
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: Because of course, then right across the palm there.
[SPEAKER_08]: Come on.
[SPEAKER_08]: Of course, he's got people in his administration that understand Farsi.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they knew right off the bat.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he was going out there and Bob and Levin on anyway, even though that so the Iranians were like dude, it was part of the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: The Pakistanis said it was part of the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Donald says somebody told me it was part of the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then Vanska's boss, some of the people here do not actually know that weird language.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure, Donald was like,
[SPEAKER_04]: And at the same time, BB's looking over a scant's and everybody going, hey, you people are being idiots.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, I think that I think that Netanyahu understood it and didn't care.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep, 100% agree with you on that.
[SPEAKER_08]: But they have a there's only holding there's so many I know on Facebook by the way, who was like, oh, no, no, they it was just Donald he lied to be be I'm like no, be be understood.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, baby, be be knew what he was doing and actually look we've got the what is in if you want to know what's in Iran's 10 point piece for pose if we have that in the news on tap today in the first round out of the section pushing for peace.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the first one and yes
[SPEAKER_04]: That's also a gift link there so you can go check that out for yourself.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nancy use it also wrote a good piece in the Atlantic going through the fact that Trump's a Randheal gives him nothing that he wanted and in the meanwhile you've got Britain who is still calling for a toll free straightaway moves they're leading that pack of like 40 nations to try to get that done that Lebanon had to be part of it and today this is how you know to some degree.
[SPEAKER_04]: Rachel Mattoe always says this, watch what they do, not what they say.
[SPEAKER_04]: Always.
[SPEAKER_04]: So about the time that this ridiculous cabal of morons started to maybe figure out that maybe Netanyahu actually did know what the hell was in that and knew that Lebanon must be part of the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then Yahoo comes out and says, well, fine, fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: We must have direct talks with Lebanon.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to stop the bombing right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: But we must stop those, start those talks immediately to discuss peace and disarming Hezbollah.
[SPEAKER_04]: He came out and did that before somebody could be like, hey, didn't that do you know that language?
[SPEAKER_04]: he knows his timing he knows his he knows his hilarious over there well he wants to he wants to be the war president so that they don't ask him because he is guilty of so many crimes right and when when if if death doesn't catch him first because he's also what seventy nine yeah they're both and not in great health no i mean he's a better health and donny for sure
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but but he might drink more because Donnie doesn't drink.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is true, but when when and if the war things are all settled the way that they've got their Prime Minister ship, he basically, they have it as as I think of it as a horse in stream rule.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: where you don't change horses in the middle of the stream as bush and then used to say so right now that's what that's what Israel has that's why bb is still in and he's not term limited there like donny well because of the because of the horse and stream rule and he's not really termly whoops to take up to the you get you're all okay fine
[SPEAKER_04]: As soon as everybody goes, okay, things are cool enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's out and as soon as he's out, his trial starts.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, and he doesn't want that.
[UNKNOWN]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: So he's got, but look, there are people in a bunch of corners working on this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mark Rutez, Secretary General of NATO, visiting Donald yesterday.
[SPEAKER_04]: Donald member was right in and right in.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we don't always put in the news on tap.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some of the stuff that Donald does when he's just throwing a tantrum.
[SPEAKER_04]: Again, because watch what they do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Donald was, oh, NATO sucks.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to leave a route take.
[SPEAKER_04]: Happens to be somewhat of a Trump whisperer of sorts.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I guess Donald did chocolate rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub, rub,
[SPEAKER_08]: That Iran now is more powerful than they were in February.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_08]: Because they're controlling the straight that they didn't control before.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're also charging for it.
[SPEAKER_08]: And they're charging a couple million dollars a ship.
[SPEAKER_08]: Right.
[SPEAKER_08]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_08]: And they, I remember Donald complaining that they got $1.5 billion from Obama, even though it was their own money that we just...
[SPEAKER_08]: get back back but now they've made over a hundred billion just by selling oil that alone the two million per ship going through the straight so they go safely so they are more powerful than they ever were they're a huge player on the world stage right now making more money and with not a nuclear bomb who needs it when you can control the straight
[SPEAKER_07]: Right.
[SPEAKER_08]: You know why?
[SPEAKER_08]: Because China smart.
[SPEAKER_08]: They're doing renewables.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_08]: We could have been the last 55 years Ronald Reagan you
[SPEAKER_08]: could have been doing that and we could have been ahead of the game and not relying on the Middle East, which would not be a power broker anymore.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're not even relying on the middle.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, technically for fuel, we don't need it, but because of the fact that oil is a worldwide commodity, where it trades on the price for everybody.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you screw it up for somebody else, you screw it up for and unfortunately,
[SPEAKER_08]: And we can make plastics from other things, too, by the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, prices plunged less time.
[SPEAKER_04]: I checked it was it's under $100 a barrel right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: For now, right for now, except here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: The gas prices do not expect those any time soon.
[SPEAKER_08]: Well, month or two before they start coming now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, easily.
[SPEAKER_04]: If it stays this slow, assume they actually get a ceasefire on paper and they sign it's next week, you'll start seeing maybe a penny or two a week at the most, right?
[SPEAKER_08]: It's going to be months before it gets back down to what it was before the election, I'll tell you that one.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Donald's own ultramagas supporters are pissed and they're clapping back at him on his own potential.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: The whole truth toilet, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's there.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, are you kidding me?
[SPEAKER_08]: No, they're mad at him and they're telling him that.
[SPEAKER_04]: which is rare and there we've got the whole other thing all of this in the ongoing cost of worst section in the news on tap um the polymarkets predictions markets conveniently disgusting accounts happened just before the ceasefire boom made a bunch of money and then they closed oops sorry yeah if if that smells to how I hell like a rupture to you it does
[SPEAKER_04]: We got to ask Barbara about some of these questions.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, Jody, um, today's drink of the day happens to be somebody who I, I, I like, I admire I did too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I met, I met the guy that played him in the movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which movie there's been several, uh, Gary Oldman.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ah, yes, that would be okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_08]: I got to meet him years ago.
[SPEAKER_08]: He was singing background with a friend of mine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, no way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: He doesn't have a pretty good singing voice, too.
[SPEAKER_08]: And he was very, very nice.
[SPEAKER_08]: He came to the bar and I'm like, I know you're about to go and stage what do you need?
[SPEAKER_08]: And he goes, what a, and I'm like, kind of get a couple of waters for Mr. Oldman and I'm like, yeah, and I'm like, because thank you, you're so nice.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then I met him again when he got the critics'
[SPEAKER_08]: said person and I reintroduce myself because oh I love Jonathan because he played he sings backgrounds for my friend Jonathan right and it was just like let's not let's not let's not leave him hanging out there okay so like who are you trying to talk about and not talking and thank you for doing the mocktail version uh the no why the drink of the day is called Savoy Hotel special the the Savoy Hotel special which Savoy Hotel in London is I mean that that's a pretty cool place yeah
[SPEAKER_04]: And they also have a great great grill there, and that's where Winston Churchill.
[SPEAKER_08]: And this is because weirdly, this is a national holiday in these United States.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh huh.
[SPEAKER_04]: See, here's the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, you may have known that the Winston Churchill was the prime minister of the UK twice.
[SPEAKER_04]: What you may not have known is that Churchill was also half American.
[SPEAKER_07]: You might have heard.
[SPEAKER_04]: But because of those birthright citizenship.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Judges Wright.
[SPEAKER_04]: So the story behind that for those of you who don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: National Winston Churchill Day isn't observed, myr holiday.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Celebrator on April 9th commemorating the day to 1963 when John F. Kennedy signed to proximate proclamation granting Winston Churchill on a way where US had a citizenship.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now there's only ever been eight people to receive it.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was alive and so his mother Teresa when they were alive the other six were not alive when they received that.
[SPEAKER_08]: And it seems like a little late at that point.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he actually he did not receive it in person.
[SPEAKER_04]: His his sons received it in person.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was still in the UK quite aged at that.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, in 1963.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we did find a picture of I know I love that picture that you found as pretty cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Here's the deal.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, Winston Churchill, um, his mom, Jenny Jerome Churchill was better known as Lady Randolph Spencer Churchill.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was an American socialite born in Brooklyn.
[SPEAKER_08]: Hey, you know, she knows how to, you know, arrogant, and all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: She said, well, I'm sure a lot.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly, but his dad was Lord Randolph Churchill, obviously British.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, Churchill's mother back in the day, she was not required to wear an answer.
[SPEAKER_04]: U.S. citizenship, but Winston Churchill was born in 1897, 1874.
[SPEAKER_04]: 70, okay, right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, but in 1963, man, he was not a young kid.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no, no, but here's the thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: The U.S. citizenship act of 1934 on the president, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's changed things.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was also known as the Equal Nationality Act of 1934, and it permitted American women married to foreign nationals, like you know, an American woman married to a Brit, for example, to pass U.S. birthright citizenship to their children who were born abroad, but because Churchill was born in 1874, and he didn't get grandfathered in, but he was basically half American.
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's a great history and good Lord.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm glad that you got his, his,
[SPEAKER_04]: rough daily drinking.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh my god, that was the funniest thing that I found.
[SPEAKER_04]: Starts the day waking up at 11 a.m. Three scotch and sodas always Johnny Walker lunch champagne, specifically Paul Roger, which is followed by post lunch glass or two of cognac, post nap and the afternoon, one scotch and soda each hour from 4 to 7 p.m. and then before dinner,
[SPEAKER_04]: a glass of sherry, another pint bottle of polter share at dinner and then after dinner back to the cone, yeah, I could do it.
[SPEAKER_08]: When did he eat?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, he clearly did.
[SPEAKER_08]: Obviously, he was, he was, he was portly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, that's one of the reasons he, that, that is one of the reasons why he happened to like this avoid because they not only were good place, they had a good place to do, you know, presentations and things, whatever, um, they also, this, this avoid hotel in London also had a really good restaurant, which he frequently often.
[SPEAKER_08]: So, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: totally.
[SPEAKER_04]: Every time anybody talk with him, they said, even if he was in his cups, he was, you know, he knew he was smart.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was very, he was smart.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was smart.
[SPEAKER_08]: He was smart.
[SPEAKER_08]: And I mean, what he had to do in more or two was happening to his country at the time.
[SPEAKER_08]: And he had never chamerland and not me in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's, it's amazing.
[SPEAKER_04]: You should definitely read the history as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Jody, how do we make a Savoy hotel special cocktail or mock tale?
[SPEAKER_08]: Depending.
[SPEAKER_08]: What kind of glass is it?
[SPEAKER_08]: Is it pre-chilled?
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, it's pre-chilled.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a Nick and Nora glass.
[SPEAKER_08]: For those of you that don't know who Nick and Nora are, just watch the thin man and then you'll know.
[SPEAKER_08]: It'll tell you everything you need to know.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a really good film and it was a series of films.
[SPEAKER_08]: I love the thin man series.
[SPEAKER_08]: Anyway, shaker, ice.
[SPEAKER_08]: For the cocktail version, you need two answers of gin.
[SPEAKER_08]: London dry will do.
[SPEAKER_08]: Doesn't matter.
[SPEAKER_08]: Just top shelf.
[SPEAKER_08]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Taste better.
[SPEAKER_08]: An ounce of driver move.
[SPEAKER_08]: A dash of absense, and if you don't have it, use per note or any other anesthetics within reach, so it's that flavor that you want that touch of licorice.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, just scoosh.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's a mocktail.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, you need two ounces of liars, gentle alternative, an ounce of liars for a mouth alternative, and a small drop of a niece oil.
[SPEAKER_08]: So similar stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: And of course, with both of them.
[SPEAKER_08]: With both of them, I mean, it is a dash of grenadine, which makes it red.
[SPEAKER_08]: Ish, it's a pink-looking cocktail.
[SPEAKER_08]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then your garnish is a lemon twist.
[SPEAKER_08]: So you add all your ingredients, whichever side you're going to make, add ice, shake until it's chilly, straight into the glass, express your lemon, twist over it, and then discard it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Please, enjoy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And enjoy.
[SPEAKER_04]: And keep yourself a stiff upper lip, which is easier to do with mocktail, because then you're
[SPEAKER_08]: And again, National Today has been a life saver for me doing the drinks of the day.
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[SPEAKER_04]: In the entertainment and media sections today, down on the fifth round of the news on tap, MS now is doing some other smart things.
[SPEAKER_04]: announcing partnership today with the Marshall Project State's Newsroom and appeal to the center.
[SPEAKER_04]: I like the state's newsroom.
[SPEAKER_04]: They do some good work.
[SPEAKER_08]: Oh, do they?
[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_04]: They do and basically getting more original reporting, which is good.
[SPEAKER_04]: At the same time, Disney is now planning layoffs.
[SPEAKER_04]: There's many as 1,000 more employees.
[SPEAKER_08]: From, do we know what divisions?
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, is it the parks?
[SPEAKER_08]: Is it television?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, if you read the piece from CNBC, movie is basically a lot of it is coming from their marketing department, which I'm like, interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, that seems just weird to me, but
[SPEAKER_04]: maybe some of it, some of it may just be getting rid of people on paper as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Where open positions they didn't fail.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: I hope not.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, a thousand people is a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is, you know, ain't no joking on that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: How to cut me, by the way, is reunite with Savannah Guthrie, because Craig Melvin is taking a spring break with his family.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing, nothing, nothing worrying people are like, wait a minute.
[SPEAKER_04]: Craig, he's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's taking a couple of days, just taking a little vacation.
[SPEAKER_04]: Given the week, Bob is taking a vacation next week.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do not freak out next week when you're like, nobody knows where Bob is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bob's on vacation next week.
[SPEAKER_08]: Bob is on vacation and he also said today you guys I might do a live stream if I get bored, but that's it
[SPEAKER_08]: It's only if he gets bored because the man literally said, I'm sick and tired of hearing my voice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, look, everybody needs a break at some point.
[SPEAKER_04]: So awards, the sense, you know, we are still in awards season to some degree.
[SPEAKER_04]: He to rivalry, Jimmy give a live and the pit among nominees for the 2026 Peabody Awards.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's good.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Pink is going to host the Tony Awards in June.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's interesting to me.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's a great choice.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's a great performer, but hosting a show is a whole different bag of problems.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is, but it is.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's a Tony, so it's their nicer.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and also, she's fantastic in concerts.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think if she can do, I mean, she's done all different, I mean, many different types of concerts.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think she can handle it pretty well.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's so hard to host something when you are the producers or when you're going move it along and you have to be funny and the producers will have to have to work with her style.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll see how it goes.
[SPEAKER_08]: I love the Choni Awards.
[SPEAKER_04]: Speaking of concerts, by the way, if you're like, hey, isn't Coachella coming up?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, we have everything to know about Coachella 2026, including how to watch and listen.
[SPEAKER_04]: From the comfort of your own home, so that way you don't actually have to go out with the young, whippersnappers and stay up until O' God 30.
[SPEAKER_08]: I went to Old Chilla when the hook played.
[SPEAKER_08]: We called it Old Chilla.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so I got to see them.
[SPEAKER_08]: It was funny because I just emailed Raj.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm like half great time this week and he goes, well, I'm playing again next weekend.
[SPEAKER_08]: Do you want to come?
[SPEAKER_08]: I'll get you tickets and I'm like
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, and I said Alani it was years ago and I said, okay, we're going to Palm Springs before his mom move there.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm like we're going out there Because I'm not gonna say no Because because Roger said hey, you free tickets and passes.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm not gonna say no and so we went and it was it was him and it was pink Florida It was them and pink flight.
[SPEAKER_08]: It was like old-shella
[SPEAKER_04]: Coachella Coachella is not quite like burning man, but there are some things that open like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And since a friend of mine happens to be the program director for burning man information radio, hey Josh, and you know, and I have another number of other burner friends who have been out there, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not the same thing, but trust me, there's a certain point in time when you go, I just want to be able to sit at home and be comfortable.
[SPEAKER_04]: So that's why we gave you the link.
[SPEAKER_08]: You guys will be able to, you know, and Coachella was not like
[SPEAKER_08]: You know, the youngest people were like 30.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, I'm sure Mark Calcavecchio would have loved that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sheffler and McElroy and the Shambo doing what you would expect at the masters.
[SPEAKER_04]: But Mark Calcavecchio did not.
[SPEAKER_04]: I believe he was from Omaha.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's a semi-retired PGA pro.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK.
[SPEAKER_04]: Came in second, I think, back in 89 in the master, something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Augusta National has a pretty hard and fast rule.
[SPEAKER_04]: No freaking cell phone use during the masters.
[SPEAKER_08]: What's like being in a theater with a patty loophole?
[SPEAKER_04]: They they try to make it the classic experience they say and they they I really do think it probably changes people's The heavier but they they don't care who you are nobody does right and he just kind of violated it and they just were like well, that's nice Bye Just escorted him out and he's like up up and Supposedly I guess one of the sports journalists tried to get a hold of him.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's like yeah, I messed up whatever So at least he admitted it
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, he's not, he's not, you know, throwing a tantrum, but, you know, when the rule is the show, when the rule is a rule, and it applies to everybody, which is what, you know, rules and, and law should be.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I, I, I, I have a lawyer coming up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, look, that's that's what I was getting to is the fact that we got one of our members of the legal bar here at the politics bar coming in Which weren't work loud about bar McWade coming in this next hour and we've got all kinds of questions and of course We will talk a little bit more about the news of the day including Malania All of a sudden coming out and saying That's nothing to do with that scene individual liberty That's it
[SPEAKER_04]: out of the hour.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do what you got to do down the hall.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know where those three rooms are left, right and center.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, you aim to please.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: We aim to please you aim to please.
[SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've had a few.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: We'll have another one.
[SPEAKER_08]: Too much water, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thursday night.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Anyhow, I am still a little bit off, I guess you could say, this whole thing with Melania just threw me the hell off today.
[SPEAKER_04]: Really?
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's insane.
[SPEAKER_08]: The strike's ending is...
[SPEAKER_08]: seriously lady.
[SPEAKER_08]: Why now?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, here's this this this is just like back in the day.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, when Donald was first coming out, that that summer of of 2016.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Donald did the whole thing of, hey, Russia.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're listening, emails, that's to Hillary's email.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: There.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have gone back over that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't tell you how many times I have, I have gone back and looked at at the media that was out at the time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Even the right wing, not job propaganda, BS garbage media.
[SPEAKER_04]: That isn't actually news, but they try to claim it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody was talking about Hillary Clinton, Russia, and E-Mails, nobody.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nobody.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Donald Trump perpetually has the thing where the last person in the room, whatever they were talking about with him, that is the first thing on his mind.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_04]: The next moment he sees anybody else.
[SPEAKER_08]: That's why Stephen Miller basically lives in the bedroom.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pretty much Stephen Miller basically lives right outside of the Oval Office.
[SPEAKER_08]: So that way, he's really in the oval that much.
[SPEAKER_04]: They all try to be whatever room that Donald is in.
[SPEAKER_04]: If Donald's in the TV room, which is...
[SPEAKER_08]: Mainly where he is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, but they all try to be around him because the last person always is the one that really tends to push on his brain.
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's absolutely no reason that Donald should have mentioned that.
[SPEAKER_04]: No.
[SPEAKER_04]: and as soon as he did of course everybody was like that that's another example of strike sanding.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, okay, and today other than Pam Bondi basically Colmer saying okay, Pammy, you don't have to in Pam going I don't want to and then the other what doesn't plus members Democrats and Republicans both say, no no get her fine, not next Tuesday, but some day Pammy's got
[SPEAKER_08]: and it's funny because the the subpoena is behind closed doors it's not like it's a public thing which is why she's scared of it right because you can't do the the does if it's a dot well also they're not going to be asking the questions it will be a group of lawyers she doesn't know who it is and the lawyer that the questions will be pre-screened at least from
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, from the committee side.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but they will be, they will be committee questions at both Republicans and Democrats have screen be given to actual lawyers.
[SPEAKER_04]: It will be under oath not on TV.
[SPEAKER_04]: So she's not playing anybody even Donald at that point.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I mean, she, I can understand why Pam might be scared because there's stuff that we know that she knows.
[SPEAKER_04]: But then Melania comes out and does this whole thing if you guys missed a day Melania Trump came for no reason to play it again, Sam.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, I can I can bring it back up here I was it's it just boggles my mind how she just just walked right out And for no reason no reason basically said them the well here.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'll go back even further I'll roll this back even further.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let me going play this
[SPEAKER_00]: the lies linking me with the graceful Jeffrey Epstein need to end today.
[SPEAKER_00]: The individual's lying about- In the bidules, the void of ethical standards, humility and respect.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do not object to their ignorance, but rather, I reject their mean spirited attempts to
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been friends with Epstein.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ha, Donald and I were invited to the same parties as Epstein from time to time.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So she's clintonating.
[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of.
[SPEAKER_00]: Social circles is common in New York City and Palm Beach.
[SPEAKER_00]: She's not wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never had a relationship with Epstein or he's accomplice.
[SPEAKER_04]: Being friends is a relationship and love Melania a whole bunch of people have pointed out including Bob Cesca who's one of the first ones I saw the pointed out the email the Maxwell signed was love Melania literally love Melania because I'm sorry, but she's a Melania is not stupid
[SPEAKER_08]: No, she's not a super person.
[SPEAKER_08]: She's not an Einstein, but she's not stupid.
[SPEAKER_08]: And when you sign the love, it means you know somebody.
[SPEAKER_08]: I never sign it to you and I know you.
[SPEAKER_08]: Um, I never sign it to Bob.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I know.
[SPEAKER_04]: I say, I say love you to my friends and stuff.
[SPEAKER_08]: We do sometimes we say that, but it's not like, love, jodie at the end of an email.
[SPEAKER_08]: I do that to my mom.
[SPEAKER_08]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I hug your siblings.
[SPEAKER_08]: I think you signed a love to, like your best friend, or...
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I can do an exo, which is like, yeah, and hugs and kisses.
[SPEAKER_08]: But that's about as personal as I get with people that I don't know that well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's like, I never, I mean, I've known John Fucle sang for years.
[SPEAKER_08]: I know, I've known Stephanie.
[SPEAKER_08]: I never sang love, Jodie.
[SPEAKER_08]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_08]: Ever to any of these people, and I've known them a long time.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why it's one of those words, like, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's interesting to say the least.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why she did it.
[SPEAKER_08]: It makes literally no sense to me.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's just like, stri-sounding everything.
[SPEAKER_04]: it's price ending it and it doesn't it makes no sense to me why that's that's I mean I there's nothing external that we can can ask and figure out about this there's there's nothing external where we can ask somebody else and get the answer the only person who has the answer why she did this today is
[SPEAKER_04]: it was off the radar for the last four weeks I know we've got it we've we've we've we've got to get barb a quade in here she's she's coming here she's just just park this is pulling around and she will be in soon she's she's she'd be here momentarily here but I'm just uh...
[SPEAKER_04]: for Clanton Fakak did.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, look, and I look, I understand in the midst of all of this, I mean, you know, we started this week with, you know, I'm going to, you know, destroy your freaking civilization thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then it's the, you know, the Schrodinger's ceasefire.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it a ceasefire?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it not a ceasefire?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do we know if it's a ceasefire?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it a ceasefire?
[SPEAKER_04]: because you're just pausing I mean we we don't know entirely there's there's so much stuff that we don't know and at the same time there's so much stuff that we do know that's bad in the second round today where a Republicans can't govern under Trump and Alex is failing new commerce department report came out today the economy only grew half a percent at the end of 20 25.
[SPEAKER_04]: that's correcting their previous estimates now they actually have records.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then a key Fed measurement came out today confirming the inflation is still at three percent.
[SPEAKER_08]: Which doesn't the Fed want it below.
[SPEAKER_08]: By the way, I think the Fed keeping it below three is stupid.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're going to two percent right.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just stupid.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's always three.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's usually three is is normal.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't I agree with you.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can we could.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean, I don't want Donald to get his interest rates.
[SPEAKER_08]: Actually, no, I don't because I have a savings account.
[SPEAKER_08]: So interest rates up are good for me.
[SPEAKER_04]: But we will.
[SPEAKER_04]: The long and assured is the economies, but what you guys know, I mean, look, there's a story we have today from West Virginia.
[SPEAKER_04]: Trump promised to kind of lecture costs and half bills in energy rich West Virginia are now bigger than mortgage payments for some of these people.
[SPEAKER_08]: Okay, my mortgage is very low, by the way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but some people's mortgage is not.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, but my water and power bill, which I do now monthly, because I want to pay plan, kind of thing, where they just bill me monthly.
[SPEAKER_08]: They used to bill me every two months, so it's water and power.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so now it's just just below my mortgage.
[SPEAKER_08]: Monthly.
[SPEAKER_08]: I mean every couple of months it was until I did this and I realized they had it I don't like thank you because I didn't pay as great even pay as great do it where you can I I do it with my gas bill and I do it with my water and power now But my my water and power bill like in the summer when it's hot Which is coming Can be like $2,000 for two months.
[SPEAKER_04]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's it's it's way out there.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's way out there
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-oh.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, look who just is coming in the door here.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's the one that only Barbara quade coming in to the politics work.
[SPEAKER_04]: Barbara, I have to tell you, as a Husker fan, you know, I wore my yellow and blue just for you today.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm impressed.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can see that.
[SPEAKER_05]: That's very nice.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_05]: What you appreciate it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Congratulations to you and your team and all the fans of the mission Wolverines.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they were definitely the better team.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, thanks.
[SPEAKER_05]: It was a lot of fun.
[SPEAKER_05]: My husband and I ended up driving down to Indianapolis from Ann Arbor on Monday.
[SPEAKER_05]: We got some relatively cheap tickets on the stephub and so we drove down and saw the game and came back early the next morning.
[SPEAKER_08]: You see it great to be in the building.
[SPEAKER_08]: He's also wearing my mom's bronze colors, so we're good.
[SPEAKER_04]: So this thing, if you're celebrating NCAA basketball this year, that is the convenient thing is you can wear yellow and blue and it works for either Michigan or UCLA which by the way are both a big 10 schools.
[SPEAKER_05]: So hmm, yes, I often forget that but you're right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's from sitting there going, I'm I'm working, you know, I'm my brain elsewhere.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like, hey, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Our brains, in fact, have been a little bit fried today because of the Melania Trump thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Holy free.
[SPEAKER_05]: How surprising is that?
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's exactly what it is.
[SPEAKER_05]: Isn't it the Barbara Streisand effect?
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, what?
[SPEAKER_05]: Nobody was talking about this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Why don't you see kids out there?
[SPEAKER_05]: What?
[SPEAKER_05]: And start saying, I know everybody's talking about this.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, they're what?
[SPEAKER_05]: They're talking about this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now all right, and that's the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: All she did was walk out, drop this bomb of information, turn on her heel, and go, and every, what, you watch?
[SPEAKER_05]: It was really strange.
[SPEAKER_05]: One of the things she also said is, you know, you've probably seen all these like fake videos and fake photos of me with every.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, and so it was, you know, she tried to,
[SPEAKER_05]: Put it off as there we've got a we've got a hit there.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Thursday night, here at the politics bar, the one, the only bar McWade, more formal introduction, bar McWade, obviously.
[SPEAKER_04]: Professor at the University of Michigan, former U.S. attorney, MS now legal analyst contributor, the contrarian, co-host, uh, hashtag, sisters of the law podcast, New York Times, bestselling author.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, by the way, you got a new book, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: I do a new book.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is exactly what we actually need to hear about right now because there is, of course, it makes you wonder if Carmella would have come out and done something similar and been like, I mean, what the hell was that with Melania today?
[SPEAKER_04]: What the hell was that?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even know.
[SPEAKER_05]: I found it very strange, because as we said, it wasn't something that people were talking about, although maybe they were talking about it in the White House, but Donald Trump's strategy always seems to be the best defense as a good offense.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so, you know, she came out there and fronted it and denied it.
[SPEAKER_05]: But you know, she said, she described it as,
[SPEAKER_05]: a polite response to an email.
[SPEAKER_05]: You see the text of it?
[SPEAKER_05]: This really suggests to me someone who is in a prior relationship with a person.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Aren't we in a relationship with a person?
[SPEAKER_05]: And it's supposed to have a future relationship with a person?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: It wasn't just like, oh, they emailed me and I just said, thanks, you know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thanks, right she actually talked about oh, it was so good to see you and I look forward to seeing you next week And I mean this really suggests an ongoing relationship that actually raises more questions And I think she has resolved so I agree with you that this is that's all strikes end effect thing and I think the press is gonna start really digging into this
[SPEAKER_04]: I hope so.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and this is this is my speculation.
[SPEAKER_04]: I speculated about this earlier bar.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can do that, you know, even though even though we joke that you are one of our members of our legal bar, you know, have great people like Glenn Kersner, who hangs out here with our Tesla.
[SPEAKER_08]: Either you or Glenn will be the next AG, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_04]: But here's the thing, is that
[SPEAKER_04]: Pam Bondi is desperately it seems like trying to get out of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: There are multiple reports now of her crying and gnashing her teeth and pulling her hair out when, basically Donald said, I delayed a push to her off the boat kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And everybody is like, you know, there are some people work, why?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I go, because I'm another thing, she was the AG in Florida, when some of the absteen stuff was going on, and if they bring her in front of the oversight committee hearing, there's absolutely no reason that they can't ask her about those.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's no, am I correct to say that there is no legal protection for her for any of that state level stuff?
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, absolutely right, you know, the idea that they have you know, she, the Justice Department is taking the position that because she's no longer attorney general, she doesn't have to contestify is just wrong.
[SPEAKER_05]: They are asking Pambandi, the person who was a witness to what was in these documents is you say what happened in the lead up to this case, the long history of the case.
[SPEAKER_05]: It says something like the grand jury is entitled to every man's testimony, you know, it means person.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it means that everybody has to testify, even remember President Nixon and the Watergate case, he tried to say I'm immune from producing these tapes and they said, no you're not.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's
[SPEAKER_05]: the Congress really should demand that she come and testify.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll tell you who else I would be looking to subpoena is Galeen Maxwell.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, I think about her fifth amendment, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: But you know what, she's already been prosecuted.
[SPEAKER_05]: Supreme Court has already denied a review of her case.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's in there for 20 years.
[SPEAKER_05]: So caller, bluff, immunizer and make her answer questions.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so that's, that's what we were going to ask you about that, actually.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that if somebody has a pardon?
[SPEAKER_04]: right.
[SPEAKER_04]: They have a part or they've been immunized.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is there anything that they can do if they don't want to testify or they just required to go and and cough it up?
[SPEAKER_05]: So the only option she would have at that point if she gets immunized is to refuse and be held in contempt and face additional prison time.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that those would be her choices more more prison time or answer our questions.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then of course the cycle just goes back whether she says well no when they say okay there's another penalty.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh wait you're still here now you need answer the questions.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I mean, I think it's worth a try.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, she is the eyewitness to all of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, she knows where the bodies are buried.
[SPEAKER_05]: She knows what her relationship was like with Melania Trump or Donald Trump or anyone else for that matter.
[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, I know a lot of people are hung up on, let's get to the bottom of Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, through the bottom of office, seems to be the rule, but if you're
[SPEAKER_05]: is about justice for the survivors.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: I planch make some comments about you're assuming that there were other men who abused these survivors.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well yeah because they've told us so.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Who are these other men?
[SPEAKER_05]: Glee Max will those who they are?
[SPEAKER_05]: Let's bring her in and name names.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and that's, that's one of the things too is the fact that now the victims are there have been some victims who have said when I mean, you know, because Todd Blanche is the acting AG and people are some people are speculating they're saying, oh, and there's some scuttled about rumors around here in DC that he would like to be the AG permanently.
[SPEAKER_04]: He does.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if he would survive the congressional questioning because there's as Donald's personal attorney, previous personal, there's a correct me if I'm wrong, Barb, but legally isn't there a whole bunch of stuff?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, he may be self-liquid of interest.
[SPEAKER_04]: Somewhat, yeah, but also he might try to hide behind, oh, you know, fly-flash right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, but but at the same time, there's all kind of other things they could ask him and he knows
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, much like you said with the lane, he knows where their bodies are buried, too.
[SPEAKER_04]: It would be politically, it would be stupid for them to do, to put him up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, I think if I were politically advising Donald Trump, which God forbid, it would have gone.
[SPEAKER_04]: He'd be wise to take the advice to someone.
[SPEAKER_05]: He would.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think tie-blanch would be a poor choice, just because I think he is still so,
[SPEAKER_05]: Connected and linked to the Epstein file.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it seems that one of the reasons for getting rid of Pam Bondi was either She botched the role out of the Epstein files or she can't seem to indict anybody Andrew my enemies and make it stick.
[SPEAKER_05]: So bring me my Roy cone.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_05]: I think the Todd Blanche is, as much as Bondi, if not even more, really inextricably intertwined with the Epstein files.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think he'd be better off bringing in somebody new and fresh to sort of turn the page.
[SPEAKER_05]: But we'll see, but you're right, I mean, if Todd Blanch comes in for a confirmation hearing, I imagine that at least Democrats or some other Republicans who care about the Epstein vials would use it as an opportunity to ask him some hard questions about that, and it may be that the Trump administration doesn't want to go through that.
[SPEAKER_08]: I have a question about burdens, because when people get pardoned, then they don't testify, but if your pardoned aren't you immune from, yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: So when you, everyone of us has a fifth amendment right against self-incrimination.
[SPEAKER_05]: We cannot be called to testify as a witness against our right.
[SPEAKER_05]: But if we have no criminal exposure,
[SPEAKER_05]: He never does.
[SPEAKER_05]: We haven't done it in a while.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or pardon.
[SPEAKER_05]: And pardon.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: Then we don't have a basis for invoking a fifth amendment, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: And a judge can order us, compel us to testify.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, but I don't think we even have to pardon Galane Maxwell.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think we just have to immunize her.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that just means we won't use your new statements against you in a new criminal prosecution.
[SPEAKER_05]: She's already serving 20 years.
[SPEAKER_05]: We're done.
[SPEAKER_08]: But my question is like people that were pardoned earlier like in Iran-Contra and other things.
[SPEAKER_08]: They refused to testify, but they were immune from being prosecuted.
[SPEAKER_08]: So why did they not testify?
[SPEAKER_08]: Because if I were pardoned, I'm like, I'm going.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I mean, you know, I don't know about any prior cases and the timing matters, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: You have to pardon first, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: If you're pardon or immunized, you no longer have any criminal jeopardy facing you, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: So there's nothing to protect yourself against by invoking your fifth amendment, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Testifies who a judge can order you to come in and test it.
[SPEAKER_08]: Because I know George W. Bush, H. W. Bush, pardon and bunch of people.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then they never testified later for a wrong contrast.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, I mean... Barb, aren't pardon's kind of... You're guilty.
[SPEAKER_04]: They can be somewhat specific.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, if you're pardoned for something, it's kind of like... Well, immunizing is the same, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: right like it's like a transmission you might be they might be an immunizing you for first through third but there's still fourth and fifth gear and if they get you in there and you suddenly step on the gas and test start talking about still that's immunization as well correct yes that is true I mean
[SPEAKER_05]: It is, you know, these statements will not be used against you for immunity.
[SPEAKER_05]: With regards to a pardon, it depends.
[SPEAKER_05]: Like, I think, you know, Richard Nixon was pardoned for anything he might have done, or would have done in the future.
[SPEAKER_05]: But he had a crime.
[SPEAKER_05]: Right.
[SPEAKER_05]: So it depends on the scope of the pardon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Got it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and that's, and that's kind of goes along with the whole thing with, with.
[SPEAKER_04]: So Steve Bannon.
[SPEAKER_04]: Now, with the whole Supreme Court thing, they're basically throwing out this contempt of Congress charts, which I don't understand why I don't think they're, I don't, but I don't necessarily trust the Supreme Court right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is something hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure for you because, you know, to a number of the folks that we talk to you and Glenn and who have a real affinity for the DOJ.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, almost every time I talk about it, I label it the Trump DOJ as opposed to kind of like when Newcoke came out.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was always newcoke because then we could refer to it as Coca-Cola, Newcoke.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you still, even though now it's what 40 years passed that era when people talk about it, they still like on stranger things.
[SPEAKER_04]: They still talk about it because obviously it was set then.
[SPEAKER_04]: But people talk about Newcoke.
[SPEAKER_04]: because we all know new Coke means all that stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I labeled it the Trump DOJ going, you know, AKA, this is not the real DOJ.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're regular DOJ crystals have been replaced by this garbage, and so I'm looking at this going, how damaging to the rule of law is this current corruption of the DOJ long term?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I actually think we're gonna be able to clean stuff up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I'm very worried about it.
[SPEAKER_05]: For one, I've read that of the 10,000 lawyers who work at the Justice Department, 3,500 of them have left.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a very sizeable percentage.
[SPEAKER_05]: And many of them are people who have developed expertise and things like,
[SPEAKER_05]: cybersecurity, counterterrorism, counter espionage.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I worry that at this moment, we are a little vulnerable at a time when we're a war with a ran.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: First of all, it's an issue.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I worry about the people that the Trump administration is hiring to replace those people if they are more, you know, loyal to the mag omission.
[SPEAKER_04]: But if we're like Lindsey Halligan and just not really up to the attack.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, she can sell real estate.
[SPEAKER_05]: you know.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's right.
[SPEAKER_05]: She was a real estate lawyer.
[SPEAKER_05]: But I also worry that the current Trump DOJ lawyers are destroying something known as the presumption of regularity.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that is judges presume that prosecutors are following the law.
[SPEAKER_05]: And what they say they've done X, Y, and Z, they've actually done X, Y, and Z.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is inefficiency.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is a time saver.
[SPEAKER_05]: It is a privilege that government lawyers have long enjoyed.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that based on all the findings of contempt and refusal to comply with orders,
[SPEAKER_05]: Justice Department lawyers are losing that presumption of regularity, and I think that's something that does not get restored overnight.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then I also worry about the public's trust of DOJ lawyers.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, when you go into court for a bank robbery trial or a kidnapping trial or sex trafficking trial, you the prosecutor and the FBI agents that you're going to call to testify, the IS agents you're going to call to testify,
[SPEAKER_05]: what we are seeing happening now will erode the kind of public trust that they have long enjoyed and that we need to protect public safety by convincing jurors that people who committed crimes are in fact guilty.
[SPEAKER_08]: Amen.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to go along with the parallel thing of good policing that they have found out.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you get one bad cop who does something bad and it takes that police department for a long time and then everybody starts referring to them to derogatory and it's a downward spiral.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's the same thing with that judge and
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm guilty of doing it as much as anybody saying, oh, that was a Trump judge or you know, Trump appointed judge or, you know, that's some of his judges are doing the right thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, some of them.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and that's a credit to them, and that's a credit to them, and that's a credit to them being judges.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yeah, but it's a it's a critical whole system because at least then we can say they got in but they have put the rule of law above their own partisan biases and that's that's great now now we can trust it now.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's how they should.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, now we can play ball because everybody knows the rules, but.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just the corruption level just astounds me so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Something as simple as as with this half-assed ceasefire going on and the fact that So the pack I say, I don't know if you heard this one Barb that the the the pack of Stanley folks when they announced it They put it in farcee that oh, yeah, by the way Lebanon's included in all of this but because of another things We got rid of the people in our first
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... that that speak farcey they didn't that that so and and of course bb played off that the whole time going oh well all you didn't know well i just i'm gonna bomb weapon on any and of course then you know now like two hundred people died in a whole bunch more wounded because of that and i'm like it's
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems ridiculous to say that maybe it's important to have people who know what the hell they're doing.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I think when we walk through the line on that, it's like, no, that's important even and especially in a court of law.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because if you don't, if you don't think they know what the hell they're doing, why would you take things in a court?
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[SPEAKER_05]: No.
[SPEAKER_08]: I thought you got you.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Barb gets the bell because she's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: The whole thing is that people should pay attention to some of us.
[SPEAKER_04]: I know people think sometimes that this legal stuff is, is, is hard.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then they'll come back and they'll, they'll say things like, I'm going to go watch the pit, or I'm going to watch the sopranos.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I watch that before I even see it in a while.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, okay, if you're watching the sopranos, congratulations, you already know as much as you would need to know about a lot of the, at least what's going on in our corrupt government under Trump right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: what they don't know is how to hell to get out of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that's exactly I think with what at least from from what I can tell from what I've read about online because I looked it up when when I saw that you were coming in Barb.
[SPEAKER_04]: So your new book coming out of the June 2nd, correct?
[SPEAKER_04]: Available for pre-order now?
[SPEAKER_08]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_08]: I will buy it and I will read it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: The fix, saving America from the corruption of a mob style government, which really is I think what we've got right now.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you know, I do some analysis of what we've seen in President Trump during his second term and compare him to many of the cases that I prosecuted as a prosecutor.
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, our mobsters, corporate fraudsters, you know, organized crime, corrupt public officials.
[SPEAKER_05]: You're all the greatest hits are there, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: But using leverage, just power, squeezing people to extract concessions, all of it is there.
[SPEAKER_05]: But the bulk of a book, and hence the name, the fix, is focused on solutions.
[SPEAKER_05]: What can we do as Americans to get ourselves out from under this?
[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, some of them are structural things, things about improvements at the justice department, improvements in the way we conduct our elections, in the way we select our members of Congress, things that I think make things a little less of an us versus them, red and blue.
[SPEAKER_04]: suggestions because we've we talk about that here at the bar all the time with with other guests that come in and you know sometimes some of the the folks are here in the bar They you know leave messages in our social media and we bring them in what are some of your suggestions that you have in the book I'm not saying you know you suppose the whole thing people should buy the book by the book
[SPEAKER_05]: Happy to share.
[SPEAKER_05]: So some of these structural things, you know, there is an electoral vote compact.
[SPEAKER_05]: The state states can agree that we will give all of our electoral votes to whoever wins the popular election.
[SPEAKER_05]: And many states have already signed on to this.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's only a few more states.
[SPEAKER_08]: It's only like 80, 80, I think votes that we need.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, it's actually very close.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And that would end this trend we've seen in recent years where people who lose the popular election by a lot.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, are still still win because they have campaigned in the right small states to get support.
[SPEAKER_05]: And it is seen, I think, a real skewing of... More 2016.
[SPEAKER_04]: away from the popular, 2000, yeah, 2000, good point, the floor, yep.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think that's one.
[SPEAKER_05]: And there's another one that many political scientists have pointed out that our Congress is so broken because we have so many races that are just locked up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Everybody knows it's going to go red or it's going to go blue.
[SPEAKER_05]: And very few seats that are actually in play.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so as a result, there's voter apathy, like why would I go vote for, you know, in my race?
[SPEAKER_05]: it's going to be this incumbent because that's always the way it goes in my district.
[SPEAKER_05]: And the thought is that we expand the house to include multiple seats for every district.
[SPEAKER_08]: Hi.
[SPEAKER_08]: California would like some more seats.
[SPEAKER_08]: Thank you very much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're hitting on one of Jody's favorite topics, by the way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, either making our our district smaller or having our district represented by more than one person.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll turn it into districts.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: So that there's even if you have a district that's been traditionally locked up as either a Republican or a Democrat.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now if we've got five representatives in this district, maybe we get three Republicans, but you still get two Democrats.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: Now you've got somebody who actually represents your interests and I think it would bring us back more toward the middle and require more compromise, instead of one party just controlling everything that makes for this gridlock and we spend all our time investigating the investigators of the last administrators instead of advancing society.
[SPEAKER_05]: So there's some structural things, but there also I think a lot of things we can do is individuals
[SPEAKER_05]: getting out and getting involved.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think what we saw in Minnesota in response to the ice occupation was such a valuable lesson about loving your neighbor, about being involved, being active, sending a message that you don't like what your government is doing.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, they eventually pulled out of there because it was a disaster.
[SPEAKER_05]: They got rid of Greg Bovino because he was a disaster.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so I think people there showed how unity and collective action can really make a difference.
[SPEAKER_05]: And I would also say these groups that have been targeted, whether it's law firms or universities or the media, and who have capitulated.
[SPEAKER_05]: to Donald Trump.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I think it's been a great example of what not to do when a tyrant comes after you because those who would stood up to him have succeeded, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: They went to court and they won.
[SPEAKER_05]: They've won all these cases.
[SPEAKER_05]: So I think we can learn a lot from this moment in history.
[SPEAKER_05]: It's been a painful lesson, but I think there are things we can learn from what's happening here.
[SPEAKER_05]: There are also some comparisons about things that have happened in other countries or other moments in our own nation's history that I think we can learn from to build resilience in overcome this moment.
[SPEAKER_08]: Resilance.
[SPEAKER_04]: back to Melania.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, I think what you're saying bar was a hundred percent correct.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're seeing our tune here.
[SPEAKER_04]: Those things, I'm when it comes to elections, I am nothing if somebody who hasn't looked at all of that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love the idea of multi-member districts.
[SPEAKER_04]: For those people who don't know, let's say that we keep the district lines the same in your district, but there's enough people there.
[SPEAKER_04]: So let's say you get
[SPEAKER_04]: three members, so maybe you'll get a Republican a Democrat in the independent.
[SPEAKER_04]: Then of course, I'm all for proportional representation.
[SPEAKER_04]: So there should be that as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love ranked choice voting.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I love that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it would get gets past first pass.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I mean, all of these things, I'm like, yes, and obviously expand, there is an idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: I have been a fan of, and I've heard of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I learned of it from some lawyers here in the DC area, where I am, number of years ago.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... called rule of eighteen uh... in making make the spring court eighteen members yeah so then it's you don't need to worry about expansion for the next like hundred years that you're already built in at that point and every case should be heard by a random set of nine however in that eighteen it would be three groups
[SPEAKER_04]: left, right, and center as judged by basically everything that you've done legally and everything else you've done in your life when you're qualified and those those would be so there are six seats for the left, six seats for the center and six seats for the right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Somebody retirees or is after 18 years, one of the reasons why it's called rule of 18, after 18 years, they're moved to somewhere else in the federal bench, but they're moved off of the Supreme Court and that seat must be filled by somebody who has an
[SPEAKER_04]: just like the one before.
[SPEAKER_04]: So there's always six of each and every case is heard by a random three and nobody knows who the hell they're going to come in front of.
[SPEAKER_04]: So they can't do what's so many people have done, which is keep a case kind of burbling in lower courts until they get the court that they want and then they push it up.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, certainly we saw that with the dobs case, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: Definitely.
[SPEAKER_05]: They waited until they had the court, but they had the votes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: And then came the moment of trying to overturn Rovers' way.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I really liked that.
[SPEAKER_05]: And you would think that most members of a public would support something like that.
[SPEAKER_05]: Something that is not so tied.
[SPEAKER_05]: to political ideology that it's going to be balanced and we're going to get the right decision.
[SPEAKER_05]: But it's amazing how many people want to cling to power, right?
[SPEAKER_05]: This is our chance to shape the future of our country.
[SPEAKER_05]: And so we don't want that to happen.
[SPEAKER_04]: And ultimately screw the other people.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but I think if you ask most Americans, they would prefer a system where the rule of law means something.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_05]: Where judges are doing their best to try to interpret the law accurately and not trying to advance any particular agenda.
[SPEAKER_05]: Or the, you know, the deck isn't just stacked with six justices who share a particular worldview that doesn't really represent most of America.
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm with you.
[SPEAKER_08]: And by the way, the Electoral College pissed me off when I was nine years old.
[SPEAKER_08]: Did you apply and get rejected?
[SPEAKER_08]: I did.
[SPEAKER_08]: Is that the kind of electoral college at nine?
[SPEAKER_08]: When I learned about it, I was like, that doesn't seem fair.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why there's a nice state.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why the call compact would be so great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because the state compact, for those people who don't understand how it works, Barb, am I correct in saying that, that once the state compact gets enough vote, to 70, it's got to get to 70.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That basically they can ignore the electoral college.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, basically what we would say is say, you know, a state goes for whoever it is.
[SPEAKER_08]: Say California goes for the Democrat and the Democrat doesn't win.
[SPEAKER_05]: But California goes all its votes to the future to the Republican.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes, exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we're in California again in the system in the system we have now I still think being from Nebraska I still think the way that Nebraska and Maine do it is also somewhat more fair.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is where slightly you've you've got each each congressional district Can that they get a a member know an an electoral vote and then whoever wins the state.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's and I'm like that's fine because then you know Omaha is reliably blue Lincoln is
[SPEAKER_04]: at times going to be blue and sure outstate is going to be red, but whatever, I mean, you know, so it's it's similar but not the same.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_08]: No, I mean, honestly, California is on the 270 things.
[SPEAKER_08]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_08]: And so, like, if the Republican wins, we're going with a vote.
[SPEAKER_05]: Are you going to have it here?
[SPEAKER_08]: I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm so down with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, me too.
[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_05]: No, it makes sense because the current structure has skewed as the country has grown in lots of different directions.
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_05]: To the point where a small number of Americans in red states are controlling the outcome of our president's election.
[SPEAKER_04]: yes and that that should that shouldn't be the case regardless of whether it's you know red or blue or independent some people are starting to label those gray I mean if you shouldn't it shouldn't be it should be whoever gets the most because that's democracy yeah
[SPEAKER_04]: kind of like basketball and points.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, so looking, looking, I can, I can see myself here and I still, you know, got the yellow and blue.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sorry, Michigan did dominate the dead.
[SPEAKER_04]: They did.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was just, it was not even funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: But one, you kind of was just, seriously, you're mulling them, stop it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just, just stop it.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're doing that, it's pretty obvious, you guys are not that good at it.
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, a little post for him for my taste, but I enjoyed the outcome.
[SPEAKER_04]: I had a girl.
[SPEAKER_04]: We enjoy having you here this evening, Barb, because I'm... Love you so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: We'll get you back more.
[SPEAKER_04]: And honestly, people can already go.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can click in the link in the guest section of the news on tap today.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just click on Barb's name right there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And that'll take it where you can pre-order her new book.
[SPEAKER_04]: Out in June 2nd, LeFix, saving America.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm so buying that book.
[SPEAKER_04]: Mob style government.
[SPEAKER_04]: Look, it's definitely...
[SPEAKER_04]: I know you were going to talk about it on hashtags.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sisters in law.
[SPEAKER_04]: and probably over on MS now as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: But hopefully you'll come back and talk about it, maybe when the book comes out.
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd love to, there'd be great.
[SPEAKER_05]: Thanks so much.
[SPEAKER_05]: I love you so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love you so much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Have yourself a great evening.
[SPEAKER_04]: Tomorrow, by the way, here at the bar, it's going to be Friday, Karen and Anita will be in, which is great.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are going to be on Richard Tuesday, tomorrow morning on WCPT and AM-950.
[SPEAKER_08]: And then, Tara Devlin showed later in the evening.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right, Jody's got a long day of shows tomorrow.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's gonna be on all the shows, which is fun.
[SPEAKER_04]: Monday by the way Brooklyn Dad Define will be back and how Sparks is in next Tuesday.
[SPEAKER_04]: We got a lot of good people around here, so, well, look, we're gonna get ourselves home.
[SPEAKER_04]: You guys get yourselves home as well, and we will see you back here at the bar tomorrow night.
[SPEAKER_04]: Have a good evening, y'all.