[SPEAKER_04]: Welcome to the Lower Hounds.
[SPEAKER_04]: This is not brain surgery.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's Nietzsche.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, I couldn't think of any good lines to pull from the episode for a little intro joke today, John.
[SPEAKER_04]: Did you get your 16 gauge needle on your dunk and order?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, boy, you know, his buries that has to be his favorite person in the world, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope he's a good tipper.
[SPEAKER_04]: I certainly hope so.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm 100% in agreement that no cake is not cool.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like if you're having to go in a way, if you haven't a leaving do, you need cake.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I need cake.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was he was so distraught.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: It wasn't about Robbie.
[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, I need cake.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was expecting cake.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you go with my Dunkin.
[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe he ordered a special Dunkin that goes well with cake, paired for the cake.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the coffee pairing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure it looked Dunkin Donuts is not made for coffee pairings, but no, it's made for diabetes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you can, you can, I've gotten black coffee from, this is a Dunkin' Donuts in my work building.
[SPEAKER_03]: I get a black coffee from there.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's the same zero calories or 10 calories as any other black coffee.
[SPEAKER_04]: I need to be extremely careful because I live in the Northeast.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if I come too hard at Dunkin', then I make it kicked out.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_04]: They made throw me out of New England.
[SPEAKER_04]: So anyway, I'm David John and this is our coverage of episode 13 of season two of the pit 7 p.m. email to ptmcatthelorhounds.com.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you have any doctor's notes to put in our patient records,
[SPEAKER_04]: And as always, there are links in the show notes to all of our affiliates, to our Discord server, to anything else that you need to know about us.
[SPEAKER_04]: John you want to tell the folks a little bit about the show guide.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I was using it today to look at the name of the people So thank you for again putting that together you Nancy Everybody else who's been contributing.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's really in charge of it now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's Nancy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shut up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah She's the hospital admin.
[SPEAKER_04]: The thing that I really like to about it not to you know put you know pat ourselves too much on the back but if you are if if somebody is a
[SPEAKER_04]: regularly searching any other fandoms out there, Star Wars or any other sci-fi stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: You inevitably, even the pit has one of these, you inevitably end up at these fandom websites.
[SPEAKER_04]: that are unusable because of the number of ads, the ads have ads, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: And you can't actually get to the content, you scroll one wheel notch and you get five more pop ups, it's annoying.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it matters less for, you know, the pit, but in those fantasy shows, yeah, a lot of them are like riddled with spoilers, a lot of the wickies and we try to keep it just up to date with the show with our show guys.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, that's the other part of the pit, so we don't have to go tune about it, but the point is that if you need to look up a doctor or a patient or something like that, and you don't want to get bombarded with ads The show free VPN.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're only 39.9 a month.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just am so immune to all of it now.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just such a cacophony.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, anyway
[SPEAKER_04]: a couple of quick things I had a conversation with our chief medical correspondent Sarah Z. Yeah, it was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, very nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know your feeds now, you can go back and grab that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm hopefully we can have Sarah on at the end of the season.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe you can join, you know, we can get the scheduling work so that
[SPEAKER_04]: The three of us can chat because I want her to talk about some medical procedures because I want to I'm going to secretly record you and I'm going to like make gifts out of your reaction.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're only doing video on the Cosmere so far.
[SPEAKER_03]: You want, you are on my face.
[SPEAKER_03]: You've got to agree to do video with me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to sneak, I'm going to put myself on just below the level of the camera and then record the screen.
[SPEAKER_03]: You can probably just record and I wouldn't know the wiser either, but that's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the other news is that there's casting news and I was trying to wait until the I don't think we we I don't think we should say anything here I know what you're talking about yeah, don't say anything on that no they they're a news item came out talking about stuff
[SPEAKER_04]: I was going to try and wait for the end of the season before I read that stuff, but then I was scrolling reddit and of course, you know, boom, it right there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would say it's the news is a spoiler for the show, because you should probably avoid that if you can.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we're not going to be talking about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what, that's really what I wanted to say about the casting news is that we're not going to talk about what's in that news.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking a lot about what you said the other episode, which is, if they wrap up this season without a major mass casually, we insident and all this kind of stuff, it will have been enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not every season needs to hang dog.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm exhausted.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is the dog test.
[SPEAKER_04]: You've got a framework you've invented.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's not actually do that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I'm exhausted, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's the point of the show right there this is a you know, the show does a lot of on the nose Not finger wagging, but you know the oh, yes, and this happens to six out of 14 people You know in a regular base of whatever happens.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, yeah, they they they they they tell us all of this Expositional stuff But other than that, it's very grounded in reality and if the reality of this show of this season is
[SPEAKER_04]: This is what it's like working in an emergency department in a busy city on a holiday weekend, and the doctors walk out, the doctors and the nursing staff, and the environmental staff too, right, and the security staff.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, there's a whole world of people that we're not even interacting with.
[SPEAKER_04]: If they walk out of their shift completely exhausted, that's what we're feeling, that's what I'm feeling.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know what we talk about.
[SPEAKER_04]: episode, the total number of episodes in a season a lot on the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it too much?
[SPEAKER_04]: Was it too little?
[SPEAKER_04]: We're only getting 8 and 10 now and they used to do 20 something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I will say as a, as at least as a podcaster from a podcaster's point of view, the 8 to 12 episodes per season is the sweet spot for me because it is a little long.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we've been
[SPEAKER_04]: And when they're emotionally, they're, they're mashing my emotional buttons on every episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like this episode, I was just, I just felt so many times where they were just like, bomb, bomb, bomb, you know, but that's also nice to have that routine for like, it's a quarter of the year, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: We basically, for a quarter of the year, we can be having this show, which is nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's sure that is also nice.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, I'm not complaining.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just, I'm just sort of observing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And not unlike Dr. Lyton, you know, first day back.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like,
[SPEAKER_04]: you know, full coverage of the pet, uh, see, you know, of a season.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so 15 is a lot.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just as exhausting as working in the ear.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: The only other thing that I have to say.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's your doctor.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Pot sitting at a desk with a microphone.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, the only other thing that really got me, I mean, we'll talk about the episode, but the only thing that really got me in this episode was that the shredder was sitting so close to the scanner.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there was at one point, I thought, oh no, they scared, you know, they shredded something that wasn't scanned and that's gonna be a big thing and then it wasn't, but I'm just gonna freak out by itself.
[SPEAKER_03]: And did you see Santos break though when Mel finally kicked the scanner, Santos breaks and you could see her turn away and start laughing?
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's just one of those little lovely moments among co-workers after a long shift after a really rough day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't know if you know this, but Esa Briona, who plays Dr. Santos, she's on Broadway now.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And people are commenting on all the videos of it saying anything but doing the charts.
[SPEAKER_04]: perfect.
[SPEAKER_04]: What did you think?
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought it was great.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, like you said, it's very emotional.
[SPEAKER_03]: It hits you hard a lot of the time.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really enjoyed Dr. Abbott coming in and basically doing a let there be light moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I like seeing Langdon finally so show some vulnerability and not just doing a scripted apology, which feels like what he's been doing whole time.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I like seeing, you know, they're kind of showing everyone to doubt this episode, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of the, that's kind of the theme of this episode, I think.
[SPEAKER_03]: Gonna have Javadi doubting that she can do.
[SPEAKER_03]: The brain surgery thing, the not brain surgery thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have Dr. Al-Hashimi having to excuse yourself.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have legs in downing if you should be back.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have Santos downing if she can be okay without wittaker there.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have...
[SPEAKER_03]: What else?
[SPEAKER_03]: Mohan being like I can't I can't qualify.
[SPEAKER_03]: You have Ogil V saying right?
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if I'm cut out for this.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like I'm even leaving out some people right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like there's just so much doubt in this episode that's kind of the overarching theme of this.
[SPEAKER_04]: Donnie's good though.
[SPEAKER_04]: Donnie's just running.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Donnie's cool running.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's fine.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I really like the night shift people coming into.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's always like refreshing when they come in.
[SPEAKER_04]: Cruise control now, baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: Dr. Cruz, he was great.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm really excited to see.
[SPEAKER_04]: And do you recognize him from shrinking?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want, I haven't watched shrinking.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, my wife, my wife, my character is shrinking.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really, a big character.
[SPEAKER_04]: I heard a lot of chatter that, oh my god, people were like, oh, yeah, he's one of the main characters.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, shit, I didn't realize him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, OK. At least in the first season.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've only watched some of the first season.
[SPEAKER_04]: OK, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: In the first season, you need one of the main characters.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is he one of the doctors in drinking or no he's a patient.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, okay, but more than that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's no spoilers.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, for sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of people really enjoy that show.
[SPEAKER_04]: My, my wife and I checked it out and we have family in that,
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a little too close, a little too, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I didn't work for us, so.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think to sell you on shrinking, it's the thing that Harrison Ford who doesn't give a shit about acting anymore, does because he wants to.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you could see his like child like smile, certain things where he's like, I'm just having fun here, guys.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's the joy of it.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's a big part of the joy of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's just Harrison Ford.
[SPEAKER_04]: Watch it, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Because Harrison Ford.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's just having fun, you know, and you could feel it.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's in the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: Very cool.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, we got plenty of new people.
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought that was good.
[SPEAKER_03]: The fresh blood, the new intern.
[SPEAKER_03]: How'd you pull a night shift on your first run?
[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're going to try to get me with a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about it later.
[SPEAKER_03]: All has she me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was just thinking, I don't like anybody this season.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody's just acting poorly this season.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a rough shift, man.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a rough shift.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, at Parla, Princess, they're okay, Emma.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, we love it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that's true.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just mean, I predicted early in the season that we're gonna have Dr. El, as she may become more lovable and have Dr. Robbie become less lovable throughout the season.
[SPEAKER_03]: They certainly did the latter.
[SPEAKER_03]: They made Dr. Robbie less lovable throughout the season, but they did not do the former.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do not feel much attachment to Dr. El, as she may, even after 13 episodes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's an interesting thing, too, is that this show doesn't, anybody that they start to put on a little bit of a pedestal, they take down real quickly, and that we're all of our characters are three-dimensional, they're real human beings with.
[SPEAKER_04]: attendant flaws or flaws and attendant what's the opposite of a flop.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, cool, you know, good stuff with vibes, I don't know vibes.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And in that nobody is.
[SPEAKER_04]: This isn't a show about two dimensional characters.
[SPEAKER_04]: And whether even two dimensional characters have growth, these are really real people.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're writing an approximation of what real people are like, which we are complex.
[SPEAKER_04]: We are full of contradictions.
[SPEAKER_04]: And
[SPEAKER_04]: One thing that gives us our superpower is something that can be hard on relationships or, you know, cause complications in certain circumstances.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think that's the thing that a lot of people are moving on.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the show is that there's a kind of an authenticity with the way the characters are being written.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we don't need the characters to be perfect.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the way that, you know, in house, yeah, Dr. House's a drug addict and has a lot of issues that send from his addiction.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like he always gets the case, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like pretty much every time, you know, you figures it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: And
[SPEAKER_03]: I like that you don't know if the patient's going to be saved in this, you know, you don't know if they're going to make a mistake, a bad mistake, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, Olga, you made a mistake and somebody died on his first day, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, which, you know, as much as, after you will stay close to TB.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, because I don't know what your notes mean.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nothing from Sarah this week, but we had a lot in the show.
[SPEAKER_03]: She did enough, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: She did enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm really, oh, and shout out to the nerd heard that is her, you know, word for this community is nerd heard.
[SPEAKER_03]: I heard you in a real time thing to yourself.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's mine now.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we did get an email from a long time subscriber.
[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ken W. Ken has been around since the early days since the dawn, since the the summer before the time of the summer else, Ken's been around.
[SPEAKER_04]: and Ken says, hello, absolutely love the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: To go from an award, winning all about the A in E and its patients, and that translation is accident and emergency.
[SPEAKER_04]: So in some common wealth countries, they use A in E, rather than ER or ED.
[SPEAKER_04]: drama, care, and outcomes to pivot to it's all about those who work in the A&E takes Cahonez.
[SPEAKER_04]: Anyway, that's not really why I emailed you.
[SPEAKER_04]: The good old US of a hell system is one of greed and f the person.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm on simbocort, this is continuing Ken's email.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm on simbocort inhaler on a simbocort inhaler.
[SPEAKER_04]: And to buy over the counter here in Ireland, it's $23,000, about $26.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm on a drug payment scheme, where I only pay 80 euro a month in my monthly meds, and if they go over that amount, where I only pay 80 if my monthly meds go over that amount, and they do.
[SPEAKER_04]: I won't go in a rant just to say, happy Easter to one and all in the Laura Hound's tower.
[SPEAKER_03]: Happy Easter, Ken, and yeah, medical bills are no fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: There are no fun.
[SPEAKER_03]: I am in a very lucky place in my life where I have very good health insurance.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I've had less good health insurance and boy having I had a kid under my good health insurance and before that I had a kid on my not good health insurance.
[SPEAKER_03]: And one was like five or six thousand dollars and then the other one was like a hundred dollars in copays.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's insane.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that just shouldn't be everybody should be able to afford it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I really, you know, as a small business person, right, I have my own solo practice outside of the podcast and thing, then we have the podcast and thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: And my wife was for a long time.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was employed at various periods, and then as an independent, and we've patchworked our insurance.
[SPEAKER_04]: and then recently got on a federally supported health care meeting those qualifications.
[SPEAKER_04]: I always forget as a cater care.
[SPEAKER_04]: I always forget that I always get the two computers.
[SPEAKER_03]: Cate is for the income-based care is for over 65.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I tell you, man, having a
[SPEAKER_04]: just a simple straightforward health insurance.
[SPEAKER_04]: It makes me more economically productive.
[SPEAKER_04]: It makes me a better parent to not only my child, but my child's friends and in our community.
[SPEAKER_04]: It gives me
[SPEAKER_04]: the mental, like I don't have to worry about my job and my health insurance, I can participate in my community in various civic way, just like not having to have that burden of what if I lose my job and maybe I'm indifferent about my job, but that is my health care.
[SPEAKER_04]: That stress loading on a huge portion of our country,
[SPEAKER_04]: A development that could be unleashed if employers didn't have to, you know, burden this, if people weren't, you know, spending huge 20, 30% of their take on babe to cover their self insurance, it is, it is so Just.
[SPEAKER_04]: Ridiculous from a, hey, we're, we're a country all about business kind of standpoint.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's, it's just, yeah, this is not a political podcast, but people would rather pay 30% of their income towards premiums and copes than they would pay 10% more in taxes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly, you know, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway,
[SPEAKER_04]: And you just think about the impact, what I think of where those that economic potential is being sucked up by, where if small business people or if you had job mobility, all of these things there like it's an invisible
[SPEAKER_04]: thing in our society that just oh, I think it's very visible there.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think people become invisible, but like you if once you start to if you think about it and you start to unpack it then you're like, whoa, it's everywhere, but you can just go about your daily life and you just have the stressor of it, but you don't actually understand the macro economic impact on a nation's productivity.
[SPEAKER_04]: and well-being and happiness index and all of that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, anyway, sorry, can I went on a rant for you?
[SPEAKER_03]: I, I, I approve of the rant.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's, let's, let's take a break.
[SPEAKER_03]: Let's take a break and then let's get right into your favorite character, Ogoli.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're back.
[SPEAKER_03]: David, I just have to tell you, if I had a gun with two bullets, and I was in a room with Curtis Larson Doug Driscoll and James Ogle Bay, I would shoot Ogle Bay twice.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's my favorite Michael Scottism.
[SPEAKER_03]: If anyone's listening, no, I would not shoot anybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: But anyway, I just, I know you're going to, you were asking me like, I'm curious what you think about Ogle Bay.
[SPEAKER_03]: After this episode, you had said that to me offline.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Sarah and I talked about it a little bit too.
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, like how do we frame Ogil V, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, how is he, is he, do we see Ogil Vs in real life?
[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, yeah, you absolutely see Ogil Vs in real life.
[SPEAKER_03]: In any profession, I would say he is currently in the dark night of the soul part of his arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think they're going to resolve that this season, I think you're probably right that they're doing a multi-season redemption arc for him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Until they do the redemption part, I still hate him.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just give a say it like he hasn't being said doesn't mean he's a less of a bad person at day you don't mean being said because you missed something right being said that you were you were incompetent doesn't make you less incompetent or less of a bad person the not that he's a bad person for the incompetence like that was honest mistake and there's systems were down and the guy didn't yeah there was a bunch of like you know right would or could go through all of that they would have caught it but for
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And honestly though, somebody pointed out like Mohan was his supervisor, Mohan has been making sure that he did everything he was supposed to do.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: And especially on his first day in this, you know, complex environments.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's another reason why, you know, as much as Robbie approached Mohan inappropriately about her mom issues, he was right in that you can't be distracted in this job.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You cannot, if you are having panic attacks about
[SPEAKER_04]: and if he had approached it in a supportive.
[SPEAKER_04]: and a way looking after her best interest, which is the best interest of the emergency department.
[SPEAKER_04]: Hey, let's have a talk.
[SPEAKER_04]: You need to unpack anything, can I be listening for you so that you can unload?
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, is it too much?
[SPEAKER_04]: Then, okay, let's see if we can get your shift cover, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like be supportive, not like scream at her.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Which is only undermining her further, which is only then even more degrading the quality of care that she's able to provide.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's definitely a robby problem here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's the one who's supposed to be looking out for his underlings and seeing if they are showing signs of distraction or or otherwise not perform not performing at a high level and you know the buck does stop at him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I don't want to I don't want to put too much money on my own here.
[SPEAKER_03]: This was a I'm just saying this was a failure across the spectrum here from the institution all the way down through the staffing.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, my point is like.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do I have sympathy for Ogovie?
[SPEAKER_03]: Do I have empathy for Ogovie?
[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_03]: I hope that we see in season three He comes back.
[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't quit and he treats patients quite a lot differently.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's probably a little differently Treatment differently treats patients differently doesn't bring a book
[SPEAKER_03]: He, no, the book thing that I think that's just funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's not like a character fall.
[SPEAKER_03]: He just didn't know if they were going to have him doing hands on stuff his first day.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I bring the book.
[SPEAKER_04]: You should everyone should bring books where they get.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just bring my little baby book reader.
[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I wonder if that baby book reader also kind of fills that.
[SPEAKER_04]: sociological, like, I'm looking at an electronic device rather than, it does, it's like, it's like, I was on the bus the other day with it and somebody was like, that's a tiny phone.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, I'm just reading a book.
[SPEAKER_03]: There aren't, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Funny.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're the one who started the conversation, buddy.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it was interesting, too, that Wittaker was the one who went out to check on Ogilvi and
[SPEAKER_04]: follows with how Robby was supporting Whitaker earlier on in the season of being a leader and being a kind of guy to help fulfill those be that little emotional bridge here and there and supportive.
[SPEAKER_04]: Remember he did the little death remembrance thing with joy and Ogilevi.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's just a
[SPEAKER_04]: Whittaker's development as an emergency doctor.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that Ogilvi, sorry, not Ogilvi, Whittaker and Robbie are becoming like, get where it's like, good in that side of the same person.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, who's the, okay, well, I guess Robby would think Whittaker is becoming good, Robby, and Robby is becoming Darth Robby.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's funny, that's funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, the Patawan and the apprentice speaking of, we're about to start our cover.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, mall on Star Wars.
[SPEAKER_03]: Robby is Anakin becoming Darth Vader and Whittaker is a Soka.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is perfect.
[SPEAKER_04]: That is a perfect, lower-hound thing to fold into our conversation here.
[SPEAKER_03]: If you didn't know, Anakin was Darth Vader, sorry, it's been out for 30 years.
[SPEAKER_03]: Wait, there's 40 years, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: 40 years?
[SPEAKER_03]: As of next year, 40 years.
[SPEAKER_04]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it's going to be another, you know, we have 60 years of Star Trek this year, and we're going to have, if we have 40 years of Star Wars next year, it's another big year for Anniversarys.
[SPEAKER_03]: You're going to be able to find an anniversaire wherever you look for that's when you were like I'm going to start doing anniversary stuff I was like good luck Good luck going to find them all over the place.
[SPEAKER_04]: I want to do more.
[SPEAKER_04]: I just like if I could if we could do this full time then I would I'd have time for that side project stuff anyway Speaking of Dr. Robbie.
[SPEAKER_04]: Let's talk a little bit about him
[SPEAKER_04]: there's a lot of conversation about his arc and what's going to happen this year about whether you know what his trip means and is he is he actually you know on a one way motorcycle ride to the emergency department himself.
[SPEAKER_04]: That aside we talked about that a second the thing that that it's really pissing me off really pissing me off about Robby.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that Noel, the nurse, that he has a relationship with?
[SPEAKER_04]: She's a real one and that and Robby needs to work his shit out and be with her.
[SPEAKER_03]: She does a perfect good for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: She is the perfect partner for him.
[SPEAKER_04]: She understands the job.
[SPEAKER_04]: They could support each other.
[SPEAKER_04]: They would have a lovely chemistry and a dynamic.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's into him.
[SPEAKER_04]: She is so into him.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's like, bro, get your head out of your ass because right in front of you is a perfect, like a perfect relationship.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm very mad at him about this.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'd say it's it's stuff watching him completely about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you have any thoughts about his arc as we have it now?
[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think he's acting suicidal?
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's more of a cry for help kind of thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he really does need help and I think probably this season is going to force him to confront that, where I think the finale is going to force him to confront that.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm trending that this is about him wrestling with quitting as the head of the department and as an emergency physician.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think it's about him quitting his life, I think it's about him quitting his career and he can't quite get himself there.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: They have made it very clear that he's basically separated from all his bonds.
[SPEAKER_03]: his protege linked in he's gone he's broke up with his relationship his mentor is gone his ex girlfriend and his not son there gone it does seem like he's he's cutting off all his relationship here it's i'm not saying he's definitely suicidal but he's showing concerning signs that should be addressed by a mental health professional
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure, and I think, to me, what the writing, my prediction, my internet wager points are that this is about him coming to grips that he needs to leave the job for a time period to reset himself.
[SPEAKER_03]: He is one comment away from Dana sending him on a grippy socks vacation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my, yeah, grippy socket experience is all about trampoline parks.
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, yeah, you know, you go to, you go to that other branded place.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got the Chuckie, well, Chuckie Cheese has trampolines too, and they make you where the grippy socks, but they, if you pay for the trampolines on, they give you the grippy socks.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah, I know the ones that we go to, you, you, you could bring your own, but yeah, no, that's part of how they make money, because the markup on them is ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I know, but they will give them to you for that Chuckie Cheese, but,
[SPEAKER_03]: I just, again, I think I said, but I wanted to say, I don't care for her that much.
[SPEAKER_03]: If she didn't show back up next season, I wouldn't be devastated.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish that they had done more with the character of a season.
[SPEAKER_03]: Now that we're close to the end, I'm feeling very cheated of a good character arc.
[SPEAKER_03]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: They're clearly leading towards some kind of...
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, twist e kind of thing with freezes.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what that is.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hoping that it pays off, but I don't feel like they've done the work to make me really like her or not.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's the writing and the writing and directing making her very robotic.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I saw somebody I saw somebody do an impression of her online and they went, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Dr. Santos, the patient's feet are growing back.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is a good sign.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it was just very robotic.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I was like, oh my god, that's what it is.
[SPEAKER_03]: It bothers me that she never ever shows emotion.
[SPEAKER_03]: And also like, I don't love that she was giving, first of all, anytime anyone messes with my K, I want to fight them physically.
[SPEAKER_03]: is my gal.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, she calls, you see implies that McKay is just mental.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've never met a mortgages mental doctor than, well, maybe Garcia, but then Dr. Alhashimi, or maybe that mean surgeon that came in earlier.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure, I remember the same.
[SPEAKER_04]: Park the shark.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: But she will, you know, we're going to find my mom.
[SPEAKER_04]: Javades, mom is pretty, pretty judgey.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who's mom?
[SPEAKER_04]: Javades.
[SPEAKER_03]: Javades, mom is pretty judgey.
[SPEAKER_03]: But only on her own daughter, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, whereas, well, that's not true.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's pretty, but she called it street fashion.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah, that's not great.
[SPEAKER_03]: But you know what I mean?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, how has she me, like, she's walking around being like, you know, uh, Dr. Robbie, what's wrong with you?
[SPEAKER_03]: This is that, I, yeah, um,
[SPEAKER_03]: She, Dr. Santos, why aren't you charting the, you know, I'm gonna hold you back a year with the hell is that?
[SPEAKER_03]: The whole length in situation, like, I mean, I would be pretty troubled by that too, but, you know, she is walking around doing a lot of judging and I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: The minute she brought up AI, I was already like, don't trust you, don't trust you, don't put AI in medicine.
[SPEAKER_03]: This is not a good thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fair enough.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we'll see what happens.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I do, I am nervous about them finding a landing spot for her story arc to see how this whole neurological PTSD shell-shocky thing is going
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the word?
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want to say it's not judging your predi- it's a sort of expositional thing that they do.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, yes, you know, in the incidence of this and that, here are the statistics, and this is how people are affected by it.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's that illumination that the show does about particular conditions or circumstances.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think it'll be PTSD because that's going to be a psychiatric treatment that she's calling a neuro-scientist.
[SPEAKER_04]: It could be the two things are interlinked.
[SPEAKER_03]: I wonder if, you know, she was possibly there for a bombing, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: That was the whole thing.
[SPEAKER_03]: And so I wonder if she had head trauma and that's what I'm saying.
[SPEAKER_04]: And at the same time, she's reacting.
[SPEAKER_04]: She's like listening to the weasing breath or she sees the baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so the two things are triggering off of each other.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm looking forward to the prequel series where we watch her.
[SPEAKER_04]: that would another a lesser network would totally go that route.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think you think that they're above that, I don't think that they're above that at all.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that we are like two years away from a night shift then off.
[SPEAKER_04]: network well here's here's my prediction this is a this is something I was thinking about what if season three is this night shift carrying on directly from here and then season four is the base of coming back I don't know because we got cruise we got Ellis you know we got abits and they could do a shorter one they could do like an eight episode or something and uh and then kick us off again
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know what to say because I want to hang with this nation.
[SPEAKER_03]: I do too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that they should just do a full spinoff of the night group.
[SPEAKER_03]: Everybody wants Dr. Abel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Spinoff?
[SPEAKER_03]: No.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just a different season.
[SPEAKER_03]: I would think.
[SPEAKER_03]: different season, but you're not going to have Robbie for a season.
[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like he's the draw of the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, Abbott, come on.
[SPEAKER_03]: Abbott and I do think I do think I'd do think I'd.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they could hold it, but but I do think that like they would make that a spinoff because they'd want the main show to remain the Noah Wiley experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's why I'm saying like a short season, a short bridge season with the night shift.
[SPEAKER_03]: Season 2.5.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then three is Rodney.
[SPEAKER_03]: But then just call it the pit, night shift.
[SPEAKER_03]: and then it's a spinoff.
[SPEAKER_04]: Give no, but a spinoff means that it's own, it goes off to its own and has its own life.
[SPEAKER_04]: As opposed to just, because what are we going to do every season?
[SPEAKER_04]: Just do the same thing over and over again?
[SPEAKER_03]: We got to, we, I mean, there's going to be new patients.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're going to do another shift over and over again.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be new patients.
[SPEAKER_03]: There's going to be new doctors, new doctors, new doctors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think that's right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And you just have to have no whiley there holding, holding together this,
[SPEAKER_04]: meaty this whole thing with robby is is the show holding our hand to you know prepping us for no lilies departure like it's like you know I think he's gonna depart though this is like the biggest thing of his career all right but he's an EP on this right so he's he's writing you know he's right he's winning emies I I just I don't see it he's not giving it up all right he's not leaving right now he's at the height of his career right now
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, speaking of people leaving Mohan is certainly having a bad day, and the way she shreds her application with similar, is that a chart?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's my application for her.
[SPEAKER_03]: I only had one paper published, like the way she was like, oh fuck me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and Dr. Henderson is just so like he's just on his game.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he's just he has it.
[SPEAKER_03]: The way he says to Langdon hold on, we could just do it like this.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I've never seen Langdon be so outdone before.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, laying didn't usually the briniac stopping you from messing up.
[SPEAKER_03]: But this time, laying didn't have to be corrected.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that was like, I will say brilliant writing a way to show us the confidence of another doctor is to have them correct one of our most competent doctors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And who Dr. Who's first day back in this department after what three months or however long it was?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Struggling to because he's out of shape, you physically and mentally to deal with the pace of what goes on in this department.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so yeah, he was intimate, intimate, intimate, intimate, intimate and it's like wrong answer.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think that's something I wanted to ask Sarah about, too, was why shouldn't they said that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Great, but I want to understand more about asthma and how asthma works and then like what I have questions.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, saying.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, well, see you for Sarah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is that on them?
[SPEAKER_04]: And then yeah, and then so back to Mohan, you know, she's so connected to, she gets connected to her patience.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then when you have with the Diaz family and that whole like that was just brutal when
[SPEAKER_04]: Mr. Diaz's wife came in and she's like, I brought him a sandwich and did he get a room yet and he could just like, oh man, this is gonna suck.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, the internet world changed in that, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: She, I also appreciated that Mrs. Diaz was like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Why couldn't you stop him like should some anger at first, but then soften when she realized it was all his decision.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, and of course, Robbie going, he probably killed himself like just what the fuck is wrong with him.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I at the same time like,
[SPEAKER_03]: Deena was right to stop him.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but like I don't think anyone in this ER has a right to yellow to tell someone Why are you talking about patients to the public area?
[SPEAKER_03]: They do that's a whole day Yeah, but none and I think that was you.
[SPEAKER_03]: None the callous way.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, and in a way that was
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because they were talking about, um, oh, what's the patient's name with the, with the little boy I got to look it up on the show tracker.
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, yeah, I burned a, as a hermendi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, as a hermendi, uh, about that, but they didn't.
[SPEAKER_04]: like he was just openly speculating where at least when they've talking about her they were like okay she did this right this is what happened and then she walked out into traffic and that's why she's on a hold as opposed to he probably killed or she probably did you know yeah he wasn't she wasn't shouting out anything like that in in the middle of the uh uh the department so
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not.
[SPEAKER_04]: One thing I was thinking about, though, with Mohan, is that, and this goes to OgleVee as well, and Joy, Kwan as well, that the ER is not for everyone, and that's okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right?
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not necessary.
[SPEAKER_04]: You do your rotation.
[SPEAKER_04]: You get that experience.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's awesome.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And if it's not the place for you, it's not the place for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's no shame in that.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if this is not, you know, if Mohan, you know, and Mohan's looking for her next thing, that's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like there should be no shame or stress or guilt around making decisions.
[SPEAKER_04]: If Ogilv says, hey, this is just too much for me.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's fine.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think anybody should second guess somebody's at the least right.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's right This reminds me of what I was in High school.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think everyone else's experience when you're in high school all the teachers encourage you to go into teaching And you're like, yeah, yeah, it sounds great because that's the only thing you've ever known right as you just interactive with teachers the last 12 years 13 whatever
[SPEAKER_03]: And then you go to college and you're like, oh, there's a lot of other options.
[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that, you know, as much as Whittaker goes like, oh, you know, you don't have to run off.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like, we don't need everybody to be any our doctor.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, that's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: If he wants to do peds, do peds.
[SPEAKER_03]: If he wants to do primary care, do primary care.
[SPEAKER_03]: We need more good primary care doctors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Have you tried to get a primary care appointment recently?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a month's waiting list.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Don't hog all the doctors.
[SPEAKER_03]: Whittaker?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, share, share, like, right.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like, if he wants to be able to read a book on his lunch, then yeah, you should probably do primary here, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: He thought's on nurse Emma Nolan after her first day.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I mean, she was really gentle with, um, digby, yep, digby.
[SPEAKER_03]: Of course, his preference.
[SPEAKER_03]: Only digby.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, I, I thought that was a really moving scene with him when she's cutting his hair and he's like, I haven't looked like this in years.
[SPEAKER_03]: And, and like, what is his situation where his daughter's living in his old house?
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then he's, whatever.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, wherever I want.
[SPEAKER_03]: But like,
[SPEAKER_03]: It's so mixed and I think it's smart that it's mixed right where he's in one breath He's like I love this freedom and in another breath He's like I missed this person that I was And living rough is rough right?
[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, it's it look at it had What brought him into the You know that day right you know is an extreme circumstance right I will say that the Little shot composition
[SPEAKER_04]: of over the shoulder of digby, looking at Emma and then he holds up the mirror to his face.
[SPEAKER_04]: and then we see his face mirrored with Emma, made me cry.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it was just like, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_04]: I took a picture of it, put it in our discord.
[SPEAKER_04]: It was so good.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's such a beautiful shot, composition.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's such a great piece of visual storytelling.
[SPEAKER_04]: And just really clever.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure they, I doubt that they storyboarded that or had a notion of that and that was something that came up in the moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, the door.
[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, aren't they?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is that right there?
[SPEAKER_04]: So, just really, you know, Kudos to the production for, and just all of their camera work all season has been, you know, awesome.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're probably in the episodes now where they were shooting these when the season was already on.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because they were shooting the last few episodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: In January, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, I just, I think Emma's gonna go home and crash because she's on a high right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's a good thing that Donna, or Dana sent her home because she really, I mean, she completed her shift.
[SPEAKER_04]: But I remember Mohan last season afterwards.
[SPEAKER_04]: He was like, oh, let's go.
[SPEAKER_04]: I got it's like, no, you're on a high right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: And in a minute, your body's going to give up.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: I give up the race.
[SPEAKER_03]: So that wasn't a good moment in season.
[SPEAKER_03]: When I forgot about that, it's a good comp.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember Langdon to treat intos like shit, but I remember that one.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why.
[SPEAKER_04]: Who knows what sticks?
[SPEAKER_03]: Langdon.
[SPEAKER_03]: Pretty bad season one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I need you to go back and watch a couple of episodes.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: You see the wood from late season one?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, somebody's got a super kind of Langdon intos that would be helpful.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I just think of the writing that they've done for Emma's just so great, just a rich character.
[SPEAKER_04]: She was a great.
[SPEAKER_04]: handholder for us, you know, for the exposition stuff and a lot of riches and in somebody who clearly nursing is their calling.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Any additional thoughts on Langdon?
[SPEAKER_03]: Langdon.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was nice conversation here with Mel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, like this niche and not.
[SPEAKER_03]: I call him and put things you put here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was good moment.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, niche.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, yeah, totally.
[SPEAKER_03]: Did you see there was a clip that had Mel's actor?
[SPEAKER_03]: What's her name?
[SPEAKER_04]: Uh, I don't look up the show.
[SPEAKER_04]: Is it in the show guy?
[SPEAKER_04]: It should be in the show guy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Actor should be in the show guy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, anyway.
[SPEAKER_03]: Point is she was interviewed and Taylor Dearden.
[SPEAKER_03]: Taylor Dearden, thanks.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was interviewed and they said, can you give us your best?
[SPEAKER_03]: Baby Jane Doe.
[SPEAKER_03]: She did.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then afterwards, she looked so pleased with herself and I was like, you just are your character, aren't you?
[SPEAKER_03]: but it was also a brine crunch and grim and you're like, oh, that's your dad, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's just, I had no idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's brine crunch and sort of like talking about this before.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nope, didn't we?
[SPEAKER_03]: No, we had.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, we didn't talk about this before.
[SPEAKER_04]: No, I don't remember that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh my god, my memory is shot if we.
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you'll recall that scene, I'm not gonna say exactly what happened, but in breaking bad, when they had the assembly where they were talking to the teachers about a tragic event that had occurred,
[SPEAKER_03]: in the sky.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't remember that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Anyway, well, she was the one who asked the question, like, how do you deal with all this sadness or something like that?
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and that's McCay is a neppo baby as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not saying that in the negative way.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just saying, uh, how do we approve these neppo babies?
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, there's still neppo babies.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what I really like Jack Quaid came out and was like, yeah, I'm a neppo baby.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just tried to like live up to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm like, I'm not going to deny that I was given a leg in by the parents.
[SPEAKER_03]: I just
[SPEAKER_04]: Our tax account, that I use my wife and I use it, and that the Lorraine uses actually is a NEPO baby.
[SPEAKER_04]: His father is a tax lawyer who's right, so it's okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just because they're on screen doesn't mean everybody gets a leg up from from their parents if they choose the same career.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's a very, it's not a, it's a not uncommon thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: So fair enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was the idiot who chose a completely different profession.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then you were like, oh, I got nobody to talk to.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: uh... any javadi uh... thoughts yes she you know she uh... was able to finally do the surgery not brain surgery it wasn't i guess technically not i mean look my mom has had a brain surgery i've been around brain surgery patients that she'd a scary like it's scary to go near the head it just says right
[SPEAKER_03]: I understand her being, her confidence was shaking already and she was tired and she was feeling scared, but like, I mean, I was, this was, I think a healthy push from Robbie of like, you're not going to get another opportunity like this soon.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you should take it like you, you, you can do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe in you.
[SPEAKER_03]: That is the kind of encouragement that I think is good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Not, what are you, you know, having a panic attack about your mommy issues?
[SPEAKER_03]: I wish that this is the Robbie that we missed this season, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: He hasn't been around very much.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: When he and he really believes in Javadi and when he believes in you, I said this before in an earlier episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: When Robbie's when the sunlight of Robbie falls upon you, it feels warm and lovely and you were grow when you're in his shadow, it's a cold and dark place and it's not fun to be there.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think that's the unevenness that he has.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... as a mentor uh... i mean i'm trying to get i've told this story before on a podcast in the past but i'll i'll just a quick one dotters first sledding experience sitting in the you know the top of the little hill was at school yard uh... this is uh... pendant i think it was the pandemic winter
[SPEAKER_04]: and she'd never been on a sled before and she was really excited to go and then at the top of the hill already to go starts the bulk and I just reach out with my foot and I tap the back of her sled and just send her down the hill and she's like she gets the bottom of the hill and she's like that was amazing that was great and it was like one of those things were as a parent I'm like
[SPEAKER_04]: Is there real fear?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is there like a real concern here?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or is this just sort of new experience jitters?
[SPEAKER_04]: And as a parent, what's the line?
[SPEAKER_04]: What's the line of that was cruel and mean?
[SPEAKER_04]: Or that was the little thing that helped your kids see a new possibility?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's tough.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's tough making those decisions at the moment, especially because we're all flawed people with our own emotions and our own anxieties.
[SPEAKER_04]: And then things that we're reacting to from our past, well, my father did it this way, so I'm going to do it the opposite.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, then you're still doing it.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're just doing the opposite of it.
[SPEAKER_04]: But you're still in the chat.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're still locked into the dynamic of that way that it was done.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I, I, um, I tried to ask myself, is this a me problem?
[SPEAKER_03]: Is this, am I the, is it me?
[SPEAKER_03]: Am I the problem?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: I've been self-reflecting.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Or am I doing a good baby Jane Doe?
[SPEAKER_04]: Can you give me your best baby Jane Doe?
[SPEAKER_04]: A baby Jane Doe?
[SPEAKER_04]: Of course you came to play on me.
[SPEAKER_04]: I saw you on your phone while I was talking.
[SPEAKER_04]: I was trying to get up baby Jane Doe for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: You got it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I love it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I do, though, think, wow, what an experience for Javadi.
[SPEAKER_04]: Not only to have Dr. Conley, who was, you know, is a contemporary of Dr. Shamsi, Javadi's mother, but to, you know, be that person to,
[SPEAKER_04]: coacher through that, and it seemed like, yeah, the head is a scary place to be taking a, I don't know, a little carpenter's drill thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously, it's a well designed medical device.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: She said there's a safety stop, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't go too far.
[SPEAKER_04]: You can't go too far.
[SPEAKER_04]: And all of that, that is just, and it was all pretty straightforward, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: You know, just your angle here, do this, do that, but man, what an experience for Javadi to have.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it's kind of like those good uh, carpenter tools, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: The good ones will stop.
[SPEAKER_03]: They can show you with like a hot dog.
[SPEAKER_03]: You put a hot dog up to it.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_03]: So like the most you could do is scratch yourself.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: That's actually an electrical conductivity thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think it's, I think, uh, a YouTube on it one time.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I thought it was based on like the softness, but maybe I have no idea.
[SPEAKER_04]: I can't remember now.
[SPEAKER_04]: Maybe, I, I, I, I,
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know, it's great technology, I'm glad it exists.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's amazing, yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, you don't have your shop teacher like with the short one finger, like that was like, oh, you're the shop teacher, yep, you sure are.
[SPEAKER_04]: Great, great.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't think I'm taking your class.
[SPEAKER_04]: Santos, I was thinking Santos's her doctor super power is her pessimism, is her darkness that allows her to see
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's great.
[SPEAKER_03]: You know what?
[SPEAKER_03]: It's interesting.
[SPEAKER_03]: It almost reminds me of Nathan Fielder of the way that she will just ask the right questions to people talking.
[SPEAKER_03]: She goes, and she's very good at the, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: The same way he does it, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, just let them talk and seem like you're vibing with them.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So we act to talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, seem really interested.
[SPEAKER_03]: And that way they just talk.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: How much do you take a day?
[SPEAKER_03]: I want to be good.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: That would have been a good opening line as I was talking about sleep maxing, because I don't think he's sleep maxing.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's sleep maxing, much.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that was genius.
[SPEAKER_03]: The waste was like, oh, do you sleep max?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you should.
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, really make her feel comfortable talking about it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Is it deception?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, but it also helped cure her well, maybe not cure, but figure out what's going on with her.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's all of the mystery.
[SPEAKER_04]: Apparently that's no why these actual life and real life.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_04]: Is the actress?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know, but again, great social commentary on medical influencer and wellness culture that we have right now.
[SPEAKER_04]: And the conflicting thing is, is like, yeah, you know, it's not wrong to want to seek some alternatives because the for-profit corporations that are making a lot of this stuff.
[SPEAKER_04]: aren't necessary, don't necessarily have your best interest at the heart at the same time the camera was brawl melt.
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh man, it is such a crazy world out there, and they're just in your feeds, they're on your FYP.
[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not a big YouTube guy, it sounds like I'm a big YouTube guy, but I'm not, I'm not like I'll go on there for specific.
[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's a whole culture, people will do that all day.
[SPEAKER_04]: the forced ads that come at you for all of this stuff I'm like oh my god this is just a cesspool of misinformation and hype and and what's the the thing oh the thing today nowadays is like I'm getting a lot of his like clarity of thought and don't say this phrase in conversations you know that that's just shows your weakness.
[SPEAKER_04]: Fuck you guys man.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, so I with myself on plan, I currently have free Netflix with ads.
[SPEAKER_03]: But I would cost me like $16 a month to get it with no ads, so I just live with the ads.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I forgot how bad it is.
[SPEAKER_04]: And here we are in an ad supported podcast so you know subscribe, but I actually I listen to the podcast And I'm like these are absolutely not so bad like they're usually fine, and we curate are our Ad side like we we try to make sure that ours aren't like for Casinos and things like that.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah
[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but yeah, no, the ones on TV are just like, you can say, I mean, they're just so like over high level, whereas I think podcast as this is just I think the nature of the format are a lot Chiller right my experience and and I think because they have access to your phone there a lot more targeted so they annoying me less
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's interesting when I was traveling over the holidays at the end of the last year that hearing the ads that I would be getting in my feed in my podcast feed.
[SPEAKER_03]: Because I change getting ads to visit your state actually.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, really?
[SPEAKER_03]: Probably because I'm calling you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and the Vermont is like, come, come.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's a beautiful place.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's been your, spend your dollars here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're declining population state.
[SPEAKER_04]: So we need, you know, we need people to come and record.
[SPEAKER_03]: What do you have to say Bernie Sanders?
[SPEAKER_03]: What are you doing about it?
[SPEAKER_04]: Bernard.
[SPEAKER_04]: Should we talk a little bit about the night shift?
[SPEAKER_04]: There's not too much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, the,
[SPEAKER_03]: addition.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, apparently there's a large Armenian community in California, and there's I saw some Reddit chatter about folks within that community.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, yay, you know, like we we we we're seeing we're connected.
[SPEAKER_04]: So pretty excited by her.
[SPEAKER_04]: Dr. Nurse.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, no, she was not having it.
[SPEAKER_03]: She was not having it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nurse Maga.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_03]: I like it.
[SPEAKER_03]: I'll be quiet.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's nurse Maga.
[SPEAKER_04]: Nurse Peter is.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, she was, she's got a sour face when she gives you that stink eye boy.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's, it's there.
[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, uh, like shut up.
[SPEAKER_03]: Shut up with those eyes.
[SPEAKER_04]: I also felt something interesting.
[SPEAKER_04]: Some conversation around Abbott, Alhashimi and Rabinovitch,
[SPEAKER_04]: that I forget all Hashimi, I think Hashimi is doctor or something like that.
[SPEAKER_04]: Or I need to do some more reading about that.
[SPEAKER_04]: But apparently, they've picked names for these people, Abbott, religious leader, rabbinavitch, son of a rabbi.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I think all Hashimi is like, oh, the family of the doctor or something like that, somebody right in and correct me.
[SPEAKER_04]: So it's interesting that they've given all of our attendings these sort of high sounding names.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm loving Dr. Shen, just walking around with his Duncan orders.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I'm just like, hey, I'm gonna stick a needle in your skull.
[SPEAKER_04]: And why sip on my dumpkin?
[SPEAKER_03]: He is hilarious.
[SPEAKER_03]: I love him.
[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, I mean, do I even have to talk about Dr. Abbott or a farming all day?
[SPEAKER_03]: He comes in.
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, well, we still have the things, you know, offline.
[SPEAKER_03]: And then he goes, ah, well, now and now it's back online.
[SPEAKER_03]: Just as I'm talking here.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's like, right, right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, that was his let it there be light moment.
[SPEAKER_03]: We learn that he can also be a strict person where he says, no, you have to scan in all your stuff before you leave.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not going to be, oh, you're not going to have it, not have it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're not going to be stuck here.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... yet and then we had we were i guess already talked about doctor cruise hender send who's the senior uh... for the resident senior resident on the ship to who is doctor Ellis wasn't in this episode much not much on the air yeah she was more in the earlier season when she was taking a map and then trying to and you need the testimony hopefully yeah that was funny uh... hopefully we'll see you're in the middle of the last a little bit more in these last couple episodes so yeah probably i think so
[SPEAKER_03]: Who else we got?
[SPEAKER_03]: We got more patients, Mr. Diaz was of course tragic.
[SPEAKER_03]: We kind of talked about that a little bit.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it's just, I don't think he was suicidal.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he probably did fall.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's easy to, the simple answer to me.
[SPEAKER_04]: Like one simple option is he's stressed out.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's distracted.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's not feeling well.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's hot out.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's tired.
[SPEAKER_04]: He's at a long day and he's working in
[SPEAKER_04]: right, missed that right how easy is it to get injured on a job right I was helping my cousin who's an actual contractor person along go fixing my doing a renovation of my parents kitchen and I fell through a floorboard because I turned around and I wasn't paying attention and I went boop down you know right so you know it happens it's very easy
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, it's tough.
[SPEAKER_03]: He left against medical advice.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now he's, you know, we said earlier than season, like, they'd rather have him alive than not be in debt, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Then avoid back grubsi.
[SPEAKER_03]: And now, yeah, it looks like they're gonna avoid bankruptcy, but, man, at what cost?
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's rough.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's really tough and you know, maybe they can handle the medical bills now, but can they handle their rent or their mortgage if they own can they handle, you know, Never mind the fact that they're the, you know, a member of the family.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's what I heard.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I let with was they would rather have him than the money.
[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_04]: And you don't only make us don't bleed so much.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: Right.
[SPEAKER_04]: What's 100,000 to 200,000 in debt?
[SPEAKER_04]: There's no difference there.
[SPEAKER_04]: You're just in debt for the rest of your life.
[SPEAKER_03]: Right.
[SPEAKER_03]: So, hello, my student loans.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, all of the patients, all had, like, social commentary attached to them.
[SPEAKER_04]: This episode, Diaz, with that old situation, with Barnhill, with the asthma, and the haler, and medical coverage, and misdavis, the,
[SPEAKER_04]: Um, I think Dick B is the only one that didn't have social commentary and that was just emotional like, well, I mean, that guess there was some implied social commentary that they're about being unhoused.
[SPEAKER_03]: And it about being invisible to your family.
[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of people who, you know, you assume they have no one, you assume that they are, um, you know, like.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think a lot of people get like, is this person going to be angry with an unhoused person?
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, and frankly, not for lack of experience, like I've had people get really mad at me.
[SPEAKER_03]: I've literally given some of a few bucks, everything in my wallet, a few bucks to a homeless person and had them be pissed and make his old enough.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like, and get like really aggressive in like, call me names.
[SPEAKER_03]: And like,
[SPEAKER_03]: It hasn't stopped me from trying to do what I can anyway, but boy does it make you cautious Right, and so I think that's that's a lot of bias that goes into homelessness because of a few bad actors And there's bad actors in every community, of course, and the digby is showing a different side of it If like a lot of people just kind of fall through the cracks like this They just think the daughter forgot him and probably his daughter didn't forget him and we'd love to see him
[SPEAKER_04]: And there's a social impact, too, of living unhoused like that, and that affects how you conduct yourself and your relationship to yourself and what you're capable of.
[SPEAKER_04]: And I think it's very hard psychologically.
[SPEAKER_04]: for people to live unhoused and in that circumstance.
[SPEAKER_04]: So, anyway, I thought they handled Digby really, really well.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and giving us that emotional juice that we come to the pit for.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we already talked about Ms. Davis as well.
[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, the Barnhill thing with asthma, I think that's not much more to talk about.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we talked about the latent thing, which was the biggest thing in there, is him getting corrected by what's his name again, the new doctor?
[SPEAKER_04]: Dr. Henderson.
[SPEAKER_03]: Dr. Henderson, the cruise control.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, he's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, that's the episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: Dr. Cruz is great.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's the whole episode, huh?
[SPEAKER_03]: That's it.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we're done.
[SPEAKER_04]: I don't really want to get into hypertonic saline or halo signs or arrows.
[SPEAKER_03]: I truly don't know what any of that means.
[UNKNOWN]: So.
[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_04]: We can talk to Sarah.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we'll, we'll rack up a list for Sarah.
[SPEAKER_03]: Sounds good there.
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, David, we, we had a great episode, I think, on our self-doubt episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: Couple more.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do we, two left, right?
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, two left.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're almost there.
[SPEAKER_04]: I would be glad to end our shift.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm ready for the season to be wrapped up.
[SPEAKER_04]: A couple of, I guess, housekeeping things and news about town.
[SPEAKER_04]: We did a bunch of work on the discord.
[SPEAKER_04]: And we have a new server, a new server tag.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you're on the Discord and you want to have a little badge that follows you around.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like wearing a lapel pin around Discord.
[SPEAKER_04]: If you're on other servers, you get a little thing that says LHND, Laura Hound next to your thing.
[SPEAKER_04]: Just go to the very top of the channel list.
[SPEAKER_04]: and look forward it says the lorehounds at the very top and if you open that up there's a little thing that you can server it called server tag and you can adopt it and it puts your lorehound tag next to it.
[SPEAKER_04]: So if you want to support some some fun flair, check it out.
[SPEAKER_03]: Do it for David.
[SPEAKER_03]: He'll be happy.
[SPEAKER_04]: Well, and who does it for us is our discord server boosters?
[SPEAKER_04]: That's who doesn't for us because we wouldn't have that feature without the support of Aaron K. Taylor, the thriller, Dube 71, Athena, Agilella, Lustu, Nancy M, Gusto Partition, Radioactive Richard, and Adrienne.
[SPEAKER_04]: That said, one thing, I kind of pre-thang to them.
[SPEAKER_04]: We didn't talk about what's happening schedule-wise on the large hounds.
[SPEAKER_04]: What do you got, cooking?
[SPEAKER_03]: Got plenty of stuff.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to be wrapping up the one piece coverage.
[SPEAKER_03]: I think later today.
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to record one.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: You and I are doing you already mentioned mall, I think.
[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, but we can reimension it with that.
[SPEAKER_04]: We're going to be doing mall started today.
[SPEAKER_04]: And it's in two episode batches.
[SPEAKER_04]: It seems like the episodes are going to be about 20 to 30 minutes each.
[SPEAKER_04]: four or five weeks and so we're going to do weekly coverage on that and we'll have some rotating guests and at least you'll be sending in the Lord Bombs for us.
[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm really looking for you.
[SPEAKER_04]: Watch the cold open just before we go on the on the mics and yeah it's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_03]: And we said it too.
[SPEAKER_03]: I have to edit the summary and story, but that's recorded in the can and ready to go.
[SPEAKER_03]: That'll come out soon.
[SPEAKER_04]: And Alicia and I are recording a podcast that'll come out on the 10th of April for the new Riz Ahmed interpretation of Hamlet, a movie that takes Hamlet sets it in London with South Asian family.
[SPEAKER_04]: I watched the
[SPEAKER_04]: it is, it's a reinterpretation.
[SPEAKER_04]: It is, it's something else.
[SPEAKER_03]: That's good.
[SPEAKER_03]: It's good to have it, you know.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's not just dressed up, right?
[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't just dress it up and throw it in London.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's like he actually re organized it in a lot of ways and it brings a lot of interesting insights.
[SPEAKER_04]: And so I was really pretty excited about the movie.
[SPEAKER_04]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_04]: I think Alicia and Jean and
[SPEAKER_04]: Luke have some Daredevil coverage.
[SPEAKER_04]: They're gonna do a midseason and postseason.
[SPEAKER_04]: Check up.
[SPEAKER_04]: What else do we got?
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, we could talk about our affiliates.
[SPEAKER_03]: We got the radioactive ramlings boys talking about invincible and then strangely the boys.
[SPEAKER_03]: We've got our never-round the music pals doing their weekly music and psychology coverage.
[SPEAKER_04]: They just had an interesting side track about family musical groups, which was a lot of fun and I see some Fleetwood Mac coming up.
[SPEAKER_04]: uh... where are we dreams uh... published yet next week or actually this week tomorrow relative uh... flea would mac and uh... grieving this the phased structures of grieving that looks great that's a very interesting topic i got a tune in for that uh... yeah plenty of good stuff coming on over there you got the probably Howard newly wed season wrap it up i believe
[SPEAKER_04]: they dropped an episode this morning and it was late night with the devil and uh and the exercise that'll be an interesting pairing um yeah so free can say yeah yeah go check them out there that good stuff there nice you don't have to have watched the movie to listen to the podcast that is half the fun
[SPEAKER_03]: But you do have to listen to us.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thank everybody.
[SPEAKER_03]: So our discord server boosters, Aaron.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did that till earlier.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you did that already.
[SPEAKER_03]: I did.
[SPEAKER_04]: When I do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: All right.
[SPEAKER_03]: You did.
[SPEAKER_03]: You said what I just didn't do.
[SPEAKER_03]: My segue was so smart.
[SPEAKER_03]: I was trying to do it.
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I didn't.
[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't even call it.
[SPEAKER_03]: We do have to do the lore masters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, please.
[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_03]: Are some our lore masters.
[SPEAKER_03]: Samarche and Michael G. Michelle E. S. C. Peter O'H.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nancy M. Doof 71.
[SPEAKER_03]: Brian 863.
[SPEAKER_03]: Frederick H. Sarah L. Garassi.
[SPEAKER_03]: Andre B. Kwang New.
[SPEAKER_03]: Nathan T. Sub-Zero Aaron K. Adele V. Mothership 61.
[SPEAKER_03]: Norles.
[SPEAKER_03]: Kathy W. Lustu.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jeffrey B. Elisee U. Ben B. Scott F. Steven N. Julia F. Kali S. Illmariel.
[SPEAKER_03]: Rocky Zim.
[SPEAKER_03]: Jessica A.
[SPEAKER_03]: Red Zippy.
[SPEAKER_03]: Catch it L&R, Mrs. Tenant, AC Wilson, Eli W, Cassie Kay, Chomaruni, Katia, Josh Liu, Pintin PDX, Cori G, Quinch, and Adram.
[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks everyone for a great week of the pit and we'll see you for the next episode.
[SPEAKER_04]: Bye.