[SPEAKER_01]: This is the jackel underground podcast number 209 shout out to Stockton
[SPEAKER_01]: Echo Charles sitting here, unfortunately not the D.S.
[SPEAKER_01]: brothers would be able to have a lot better.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd like to get their take on things.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be legit.
[SPEAKER_01]: But we do have Echo Charles.
[SPEAKER_01]: And we do have questions from you all out there in the field on the front lines.
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to give you courses of action to help you get through and navigate these challenges that you face.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's get to it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, first question.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, how to deal with witnessing parents neglecting and or abusing children when I'm out in public?
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I was neglected.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was an neglected child of awful parents myself, and I'm a father of a toddler.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been getting more and more hypersensitive to witnessing how badly the majority of parents treat their children.
[SPEAKER_00]: Things like parents.
[SPEAKER_00]: and relative feeding small toddlers sugar and junk food, ignoring their fair requests, verbally mistreating them.
[SPEAKER_00]: Plain physical aggression, smoking tobacco nearby, provoking toxic hazardous examples.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry, providing toxic in hazardous examples and environment to children, etc.
[SPEAKER_00]: Although I make sure I direct my eyes away from people when I'm at places full of families with kids, I still see these things way too often and it bothers me and I feel there's nothing I can do to help.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can only cry.
[SPEAKER_00]: After becoming a father a bunch of things change deep inside me and I can't help to see my home child in all children.
[SPEAKER_01]: Please help.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the one thing you said, like, if you see someone that's physically abusing your kid, obviously, you can step in and stop that from happening.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, do people have different opinions of what physical abuse is?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because some people think spanking is okay, and some people don't.
[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to be even careful with that one.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, seeing this kind of mistreatment is awful.
[SPEAKER_01]: and unfortunately, there are a lot of awful things going on in the world, whether it's kids that are grievously ill, whether it's elderly, that are left on their own, whether it's people, experiencing
[SPEAKER_01]: hunger and even starvation, whether it's victims of war or other forms of math, vileants, whether it's people that are depressed and or homeless and or addicted.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes these are veterans or other people that are vulnerable.
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and not to mention you get into things like animals that are abused and mistreated.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there is so much negativity out there in the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, there is just no possible way to help everyone that deserves help.
[SPEAKER_01]: And do I sound cold blooded when I say that, okay, I mean, I feel, you know, you feel cold blooded when you say that.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, we cannot help everyone.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I think what we can do.
[SPEAKER_01]: is try to be positive in the areas and with people that we actually can't have an impact on, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: How can you help help people that you actually have the power to help?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think when you recognize that, you recognize that there's some people that you cannot help.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is sort of like, you know, you ever heard me talk about, you know, when you're in combat, there's something you have no control over, and you can't worry about the things you have no control over, because you're focusing on them, and it's going to distract you from the things that you actually do have control over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, again, I don't mean to sound callous, but it's a similar situation here where,
[SPEAKER_01]: there are people directly around you that you can help and but if you're focused on a bunch of people around the world and around the yeah around the world around the country that you are like oh distraught because they're in a bad situation you might be missing out on the people that are directly in front of you that you can help so i think if you can separate those two it allows you to focus it allows you to reach the people that you can reach and it actually allows you to have a real impact a real impact
[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't have a real impact, and you can help so many people.
[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of volunteering can you do?
[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of after school mentorship program?
[SPEAKER_01]: What kind of boys club can you join to help with?
[SPEAKER_01]: What are those big brother program?
[SPEAKER_01]: Like what are those things that you can do when you can truly
[SPEAKER_01]: have an impact, what about charity, how much can you help out a charity that helps with kids that are in bad situations?
[SPEAKER_01]: I guarantee there's shelters, I guarantee there's problems, programs that are out there, I guarantee that they need money, I guarantee that they need volunteers, I guarantee that they really need help and that if you went and stepped in you would actually be able to help real, real kids.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that the more that you do that, the more you are able to help other people, the more I think the more that you help comfort other people, the more comfort you will have.
[SPEAKER_01]: So there is so much that that we can do.
[SPEAKER_01]: Emerson, again, can we save the world?
[SPEAKER_01]: No, we can't save the world.
[SPEAKER_01]: But can we help the two kids that are going to the same school that your kid goes to that are not getting the best treatment at home?
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we help those kids?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we probably can.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they showing up to school late?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they showing up to school without pens and pencils to do their homework or what's going on?
[SPEAKER_01]: And how can we help them out?
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you know what?
[SPEAKER_01]: You find out that there's a big brother's big sister's
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe you start a boy scout think and all of a sudden you start a boy scout or some kind of a scouting trooper whatever and all of a sudden you got 10 12 14 kids in there and you're putting all of them on the right path.
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe it's a jujitsu club maybe it's a basket after school basketball whatever the thing is.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can help these kids out you can help kids out.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that is the path you have to be on.
[SPEAKER_01]: It is just just be a light in the world, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you can do that, if you can provide some hope, even in dire situations, that little bit of light that you can give to a kid can help diminish all this darkness.
[SPEAKER_01]: And if you do that, this will have an impact over time, because a one or two or three or five of those are 10 of those kids are going to remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to change and you're going to break that cycle and guess what they're going to do.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to help five, 10, 15 kids themselves.
[SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden, there is some light in these areas of the world that would have been
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's my recommendation man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you said, I'm kind of with this guy, by the way, like, you know, yeah, I think we all are.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, but you know how you just, you mentioned what you just said, oh, yeah, you said different people have different attitudes about like spanking for example, whatever.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so some people, let's say on that spectrum, let's say they're kind of, let's say deep on that continuum, right, where they, they're hard charging, you know, tough love like in this way.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like,
[SPEAKER_00]: And every once in a while like when you witness a kid getting disciplined and you just see their little face I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like sometimes.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like sometimes Pretty much all the time where I'm looking at the kid.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, brother the kid kind of came like that You know, you didn't have to get like punished in that way Like you know the idea of like punishing on verses like hey guiding them into the correct like
[SPEAKER_00]: thing rather than oh you did this you made this mistake and then now you just get freaking punished you know for the mistake rather than oh no no that's they made a mistake and it's like hey no no that was a mistake like that's the wrong way to do it this way and show them the right way you know you don't a lot of times you don't really need punishment I don't know that's obviously there's many philosophies on the thing so I get it but by the way the research that I did because we got asked about this on this podcast like whatever in the past and
[SPEAKER_01]: the spanking generally speaking is not beneficial.
[SPEAKER_01]: Generally speaking is not beneficial.
[SPEAKER_01]: So and again this is like me reading through a bunch of research and going, oh so this doesn't really help.
[SPEAKER_01]: And they kind of explain why you're like, that makes sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of like what you're saying.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like a kid, you know a six year old kid.
[SPEAKER_01]: be you can get them to stop whatever behavior they were doing right then but it's not helping you relationship it's showing them like that that's what punishment is like yeah so that is a little excerpt of what we are doing on the jacco underground podcast so if you want to continue to listen
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