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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, I'm Alicia Behatted Medical Student Studying under Dr. Reen.
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is our coverage of Netflix's Live Action One Piece Season 2 episodes 5 through 8.
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're wrapping up season 2 today.
[SPEAKER_02]: Spoiler is for the live-action show through season two and light spoilers for the corresponding anime manga episodes just on different's Yeah, if you want to get into contact with us go to one piece at the lower-hounds.coms and as an email You can find links for everything in the show notes and at least you're how can people support us?
[SPEAKER_01]: well you can find also in the show notes links to our supercast and patreon same content on both there you'll find ad free access to all of these episodes like this plus bonus episodes every month like we're talking misery um that was a really close call i know one vote separating misery and when harry meant Sally
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I guess we're going to go right into spring with some wintery horror.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: I almost put it on that my January winter horror list.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would make sense, but wasn't it like cold comforts?
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, it was cold.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's not a comforting move.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, but cold comfort also is something chilling.
[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a mix of both.
[SPEAKER_01]: OK. OK. We ended up going with Margo.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, did you at Yala's true?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you ever see that video, somebody made on like,
[SPEAKER_02]: it was a while back on like YouTube shorts or TikTok or something like that and it was like if you were in misery in this economy and it's like oh no get me some free lodging and food yeah oh here's a hammer to break my legs again oh no help care too
[SPEAKER_01]: I've had some minor leg breaks and I would not want to go with that go through with that guy goes through, but I'd be like, I will.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want a house and feed me, I will write whatever you want me to write, lady.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he should have stopped resisting, you know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, just kidding everybody.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who needs their own identity and will power, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just write the book that she wants.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so that is, um, that's that on the street, let's get into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get into it.
[SPEAKER_01]: You can hear more of that if you join Cypher Gas to be a judge.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I promise to make more lip jokes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, what'd you think?
[SPEAKER_02]: What'd you think?
[SPEAKER_02]: We've delayed, we had to delay everything, and then so we decided to just combine the rest of the season into one podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: What were your thoughts on the second slightly more than half of the season?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I was gonna say it feels more jam packed, but of course that is because we did literally do more at five episodes versus three.
[SPEAKER_01]: But this is, you know, a lot of great things happen in the second half.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are we, yeah, we're full-scoilers now for the release season two, yep.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know anything else.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, but yeah, so, oh, actually I do know one other thing, you know, with that as I won't say up.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, we got to meet some of the new members of the crew, the new, I mean, I'm assuming that what's his face joins the crew, the reindeer.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it doesn't need to say that at the end.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he goes off with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, he goes off with them.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he's in the crew.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's not a spoiler.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's Tony Tony Chopper.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, Tony Tony Chopper.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I know from just like seeing.
[SPEAKER_01]: pictures of the anime that he's there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I expected more of the doctor character because I recognized him as soon as I saw him on screen here.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, I've seen pictures of this guy that he's with the reindeer dude.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I expected him to be around more.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he comes back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously you do.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's dead.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was a full death.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: As far as I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, fake deaths.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: There are plenty.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's plenty of fake deaths in one piece.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that's not one of them as far as I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, 800 episodes later.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've not seen him again.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it's important that he dies for Chopper's backstory.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it would really cheap if he came back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but no, this was a great place to end it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very curious.
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like the next season is going to be and now I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a few days since I watched all this, so I forget the names of things, but the princess's island.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm assuming that's going to be a major focus of next season.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's probably just going to be the whole season because it's a major arc in the one piece, you know, the one piece cannon.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're setting up all these political moving pieces there that that's what I would assume even having no knowledge.
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that Alabas is the first representative arc of the rest of one piece because so far you've seen a lot of like hop from island to island quickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: And alabas is the first one where like we hang out there for a little while, and so that's more of like what the rest of this series is.
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... you know i could see them doing just one to two islands for the rest of the see it's a show forever up her season for a season so i mean that's the question like because obviously in the anime it doesn't matter that the characters just always look the same but uh... these are real people who are going to age uh... which i wouldn't hate if they kept going into their like thirties forties but uh... i wonder with their
[SPEAKER_01]: plan is for this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they like, do they want to complete the the whole circle, you know, that we talked about in previous episodes in this live action show?
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they going to like shortcut to the end or they're just going to end it early?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good question.
[SPEAKER_02]: With Netflix, you never know.
[SPEAKER_02]: With the electric short, I will say the each island is often 50 to 200 episodes.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like, it's not like each island is gonna be another like, you know, we're not gonna be inching forward in episodes anymore.
[SPEAKER_02]: Every island we go to is going to take off a significant chunk of what's left.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I haven't done the math on how many islands I think people are concerned if it's every two years, if it's every year they can probably manage it.
[SPEAKER_02]: and the reason it was two years this time was was a writer's strike and all the things, the actor's strike, the writer's strike, so hopefully they can be a little faster this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and now they have a new agreement with the writer's guild again.
[SPEAKER_01]: So no strike this time and it's gonna last four years was a compromise between the studios and the guild.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's good.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it seems like both sides are like, yeah, I mean, it's an okay deal, which I suppose means, you know, compromise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although I too continue to think that the people who actually create the things should have more than the people who just distribute them, but that's just me talking crazy as capitalism, you know, late stage.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I mean, I don't know, I guess when we get into the details, I'll have more to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just enjoyed this season, I enjoyed, you know, I love David Das Malchian, so I enjoyed the him showing up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was thinking of you, I was like, oh, at least he's going to go nuts for the fact that he's Mr. 3.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that was a fun character.
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I do love a creative psychopath in my media, in my media, in my media.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, so there's a lot of things that I enjoyed about this season.
[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like it was over quickly, but that's always the case with these adventure shows and only of eight seasons, these days.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, eight episodes, these days.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I really hope that they do turn this around later, you know, faster, not just for the aging aspect, but just for my personal enjoyment.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad that I've been drawn into this world.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I see they're not only doing the one piece the anime we've talked about and they released student, they're like, we're working on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Look, here's some images from us working on it.
[SPEAKER_01]: But they also are doing a Lego version.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I didn't know about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I shared it in the discord a few weeks ago, but yeah, that's a lot of one piece, Netflix is no wonder they're willing to invest in this live action because they like we got you in the one piece
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know if you saw that they revealed the number of episodes per arc in the one piece.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: They cut it by like in some cases like they like quartered the number of episodes from like 200 to 50.
[SPEAKER_02]: Things like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like they are really trying to like streamline these are more accessible.
[SPEAKER_01]: No offense to the super fans.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have not did my toe over there, but good.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, why I'll do this otherwise, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, it does seem like they're doing a materially different job with that and I'm glad because it should be its own thing if you're going to remake it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll always have our thousand episode series.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe someday I will dip my toe into that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Deep, deep water.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it just feels weird because they haven't finished the original series yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had finished it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You'd be like, oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're doing it in a bridge now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like Dragon Ball Z did Dragon Ball Z Kai.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was like a bridge a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, but anyway, I think it's going to be fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to watch it when it comes out for sure.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we'll talk about it too.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, on my quick hot takes for these episodes, I thought they did a brilliant job adapting it.
[SPEAKER_02]: These were very, very close to the anime versions.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were a couple little changes that they made, but mostly like really in line in a way that surprised me, because I thought that they were going to change more, especially on,
[SPEAKER_02]: little garden because little garden is so like insane, but they can all the ridiculous laughs.
[SPEAKER_02]: They kept the hair, I'm so glad they kept the hair from his family.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: The three hair.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, they kept, they kept basically everything.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm so happy with this adaptation.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's basically all I want to say.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I have questions about, for example, what was there to be afraid of on that island
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, okay, we're gonna talk about it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the dinosaurs and the illnesses, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, they took out the dinosaurs pretty easily, but I suppose that's probably an adaptation thing because they had to speed that up.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, they did it pretty easily, the anime too.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just that, um, Sanji and Zoro are really OP, and so, you know, normal pirates would have a really hard time there, but not our guys in the straw hats.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I love that they both like kicked and punched the dinosaur at the same time, and then argued over which one was the killing blow, which I don't advocate for her harming and I'm also even too racist, but they have a fun dynamic.
[SPEAKER_02]: they did eliminate okay so i'm i'll talk about a change before we even recap they did eliminate this one aspect which was in the anime they kind of alluded to it i think but in the anime they get off the ship and they're like who's gonna get the biggest kill uh... the biggest meet and they they spend the first parts of the episodes trying to you know get their biggest dinosaur kill and they can't and they're arguing and they can't decide which one's bigger after they
[SPEAKER_02]: Dory and Braggie are like, they remember what they finally started arguing about a hundred years ago and it was the exact same fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that would have made, I mean, I like for, for Sanji and Zoro, I like the arc in the TV show better where it's sort of, they have to acknowledge that they're stronger working together.
[SPEAKER_01]: But for, you know, the symmetry with the giant story, yeah, that would have been good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a fun little, you know, but no.
[SPEAKER_01]: I learned something about Sanji that he apparently doesn't.
[SPEAKER_01]: He only uses his feet to fight because his hands are for cooking.
[SPEAKER_02]: I guess that's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: I never thought of it that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I he's probably said that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just forgot it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I read it till do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's that's probably true.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, also he just like learned to kick from his boss.
[SPEAKER_02]: Who was like the kickmaster.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was I forgot what his name was.
[SPEAKER_02]: But he like his whole his whole identity was built around his foot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's then he lost it because he saved Sanji, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been I've been watching the George Romero of the dead movies recently and the first couple movies especially the first movie there's a lot of like kicking the zombies and like we don't do enough kick fighting in the real world to be honest true that's what I might instinct would be to do because definitely my legs are stronger than my arms if why you get into some tech one dough and or kickboxing.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I, at some point, I did think about that because, you know, it's also the problem with kicking is it put you off balance, so you're vulnerable that way, but anyway, right, I just appreciate the Sanji uses his feet.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he'll only use his feet, which is always super fun.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why don't we get right into episodes four and five little garden.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, the
[SPEAKER_02]: In the episode names are very funny, I would say.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you pay attention to them as they autoplay it or whatever from Netflix, but you've got, so episode four is big trouble and little garden.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, right, there puns.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wax on, Wax off.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did, I did notice that, yeah, that a lot of them are film title puns or reference in the second case.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I appreciate that it's a cinnamonard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, so I'll read the first paragraph if you read the second paragraph.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, do.
[SPEAKER_02]: After Luffy refuses Miss All-Sunday's offer to hide and allow Baroque works to do its business on Alibasta, not me uses her new log post to lead the straw hats to Little Garden.
[SPEAKER_02]: A prehistoric island filled with dinosaurs and giant flora.
[SPEAKER_02]: There, the crew meets two LBF giants who have had a daily duel for a hundred years for a reason they have forgotten, who's up in Nami-Mete-Broggy, and Luffy and Vivi-Mete-Dori.
[SPEAKER_02]: Burroke Works is hot on her tail sending Mr. 3 and Ms. Golden Week to help Mr. 5 and Ms. Valentine eliminate the straw hats and Vivi.
[SPEAKER_02]: Baroque works Poison's Braggie's drink before he can duel with Dory, allowing Dory to defeat Braggie and end their 100 years of dueling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Meanwhile, Miss Goldmeek puts Zoro, Nami, and Luffy into chances with her color strap.
[SPEAKER_02]: Vivi is captured by Mr. Five and Dory is trapped by Wax by Mr. Three.
[SPEAKER_01]: So before we go on, can I just ask about something that I noticed from the first batch of episodes that I forgot to bring up then that just reminds me, you just reminded me of it, which is that VV at some point when she first showed up, she was doing some sort of entrancing dance as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I saw somewhere that is from the anime, but then how is that different?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait, no, no, no, the other colors trap is obviously painted on.
[SPEAKER_01]: But what's up with VV's entrenching the end-dance?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just some kind of martial arts, like I'm just, you know, swinging my yo-yo, whatever it is, or yo-yo attack.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, and distracting you, you can't keep your eye straight.
[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't know where it is, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's just vibe-based.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's no double-fruit involved.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no, you actually can't swim.
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, so, speaking of VV, VV, Nami and Zoro awake within a wax sculpture by Mr. III that will slowly suffocate them, and Luffy is trapped in a tea party with Ms. Golden Week.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sanji stumbles upon Mr. III's lair and ends up on the phone with Mr.
[SPEAKER_01]: Zero calling himself Mr.
[SPEAKER_01]: Prince.
[SPEAKER_01]: The Unlucky is arrived to fight Sanji, but he's victorious and takes their
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you ooze up, wakes Braggie, gets a pep talk, and rescues Luffy from Miss Golden Week.
[SPEAKER_01]: He redirects Miss Valentine's attacks to the wax sculpture, freeing Zoro, Nami, and Vivvy, who's soundly defeat Mr. Five and Miss Valentine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Luffy tracks Mr. Three through the forest and defeats him.
[SPEAKER_01]: Dorian Braggie clear a path for the straw hats out to see, and the crew sets off for Alabasta.
[SPEAKER_01]: But wait!
[SPEAKER_01]: Nami is sick, don't don't don't don't yeah, yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: They made that sickness way more like visual in the show in the live action show There were no like lions going down Nami that I can remember.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was just she's very sick Yeah, it looks bad looks bad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and Sonji we learn that he has mommy trauma and so he's like really like I got to fix you.
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to fix you
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and by the way, I didn't even think about this until I was outlining, but, you know, he does that monologue during the Krom Island arc where he's like, oh, she would call me with her little prince and he calls himself Mr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Prince.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did mention that at some point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: He mentions on the next arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that where I'm on the anime like 800 episodes and they've talked about his mom issues so much so they're definitely bringing, I'm actually just giving up to the arc where I think they probably will talk about his mom issues and his family issues in general.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, it's interesting that they're bringing all this stuff forward, so they have this character development right away.
[SPEAKER_01]: I appreciate that personally.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to say that live-action Sanji is the character they have improved the most.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I could see based on what people are talking about with like him and the hitting on the lady stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: They have that still a little bit, but here it's like it's closer
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, there is a trope, a problematic trope across a lot of anime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for TV.
[SPEAKER_02]: That is the horny guy, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: The horny guy harassing women.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just, it's, it's a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not me, it's me anime.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're like, oh, this did not age well.
[SPEAKER_02]: And but not even just did it didn't age well.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like he's still like that in the modern anime.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not great, it's not great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that they made him more of a charmer than a harasser here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
[SPEAKER_01]: Can we talk some more about Mr. Three?
[SPEAKER_01]: I have a question.
[SPEAKER_01]: His wax house, does that must be something he just dissolves and rebuilds wherever they set up?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I notice like as soon as the other members of Brokeworks see the house, they're like, oh god, they're, or what do they call it?
[SPEAKER_01]: The psychos are here or something?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think they said that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So is that just something like he just dissolves it and reforms it so that he has a looks pad wherever they have to set up shop.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm assuming yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's his mobile rig.
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's no, can he make the wax softer for like betting or just everything's hard instead?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've not gotten that deep in our.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're thinking you're thinking too hard.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think you're thinking too hard about these powers.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're vibe-based again.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is not a hard magic system.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but the only hard rules are you can't swim if you have a double fruit.
[SPEAKER_01]: right so but he has had a devil food fruit the wax wax fruit so he cannot swim it's his is his also you told me about the two types of devil fruits
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, his is a paramysia type because he's not changing the substance of his body.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, he's ejecting something from his body, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're making your body do something instead of become something that is a paramysia type double fruit, and then we've seen Smoker is a Logia type double fruit user, which means he changes the substance of his body, which means he can't be hit by a regular hit, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: So is he still the only Logia user we've met?
[SPEAKER_02]: And we've met, yeah, I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the only one we met.
[SPEAKER_02]: You've also seen the third type of devil fruit in the next start house, is the Zoen type devil fruits, which is where you change into an animal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or it's basically like a modal transformation thing, you can do levels of transformation.
[SPEAKER_02]: You're not changing the substance, you're changing properties of your body.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does that make sense?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're, they're like the druids, they get wild shape.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, that's why you've seen like three, you see like three levels of chopper transformation, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He can be regular to your form, he can be in tiny, cute, to your form, and he can be in monster form.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and just in case anyone doesn't know that was a D&D druid, not a historic druid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, fair enough.
[SPEAKER_02]: right in druids?
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, we're getting a taste of everything this season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, and that's what I think, you know, I was saying, I don't think it's fair for me to say it's fuller because we're doing two more episodes in this and our discussion and then the last time, but it does just feel like we're leveling up on the lore and the characters and it's like now that there's certain foundations have been laid new developments are coming fast and hard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, we're it's only gonna get bigger right like the world is just gonna keep getting bigger and that's great because this show does a lot of you know I think a lot of people and I've said this you for like a lot of people compare the wheel of time world building to one pieces because it's just like every It keeps expanding yeah every arc or every book in the wheel of time you're you're like getting just a little a little bit more in your scope
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we are running through Baroque's work team members really has, you know, we are.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how many are there?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, well, okay, so there's I'm sure they'll go more into this next season with this in the big spoiler.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, um, I don't know how many named ones there are, but there's a lot of what they call the billions, which are just like the the grunts and what we saw like in the last dark.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: So there's plenty of those as like, you know, tons of those.
[SPEAKER_02]: They call them the billions just to intimidate.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think there's actual billions.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's a lot of people.
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, I think you kind of see that Crocodile sees them as mostly disposable.
[SPEAKER_02]: All of them, even the name ones.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Crocodile, of course, Mr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Zero, who's revealed this arc, the next arc, rather.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was revealed earlier, too, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: on they showed him but they don't name him until the last episode okay okay that was a fun thing in the arc on the little garden too is that um sonji finds this house and he picks up the phone and talks to mr zero um and at first I was like well obviously he knows it's not him but then there's the whole thing where they are disguising their voices right that's exactly the first
[SPEAKER_02]: That is pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you by the way, did you see everybody calling me out that sounds you supposed to be British and not French?
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's not sound British to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I'm pretty British.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I I didn't know I said that in the first episode I said I didn't notice and or yeah, when we did the season one recap, I said I didn't notice an accent, but now since people haven't saying that I've been listening and he does some British.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, I'll be quiet about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of different ways to sound British.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, yeah, maybe.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, yeah, they have the pronunciation.
[SPEAKER_02]: They have just a bucket of accents over.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you go, like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: There's the joke, I'm not going to say it, well, so I shouldn't even try.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it's like you go a few kilometers and they call bread or different things or scones.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, anyway, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: It just things change quickly there.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not that many Accessories or five major axons in the yes everything else is just like a slight derivative of it Yeah, exactly Well, um, what do you think of all this fighting we had?
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you enjoy watching Lafayes or oh, I think that's my favorite well that one and and said Luffy is also very funny
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, the fun thing about laughing Zoro is that it's such a change in his personality because he's often like the most self-serious one.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right exactly.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it's nice to see him.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I suppose, yeah, true, same with Sad Luffy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, exactly, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's so, there's no hope.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, Luffy.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I continue to be impressed with, especially the, what's his name in Yaki, what's his last name?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know his last name, but yes.
[SPEAKER_01]: The guy who plays Luffy, you know, just continues what a piece of casting, Bravo, and that.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's great, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He just kind of embodies Luffy there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I'd go as far.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I said last time, maybe he's embodying Luffy's embodying him like we'll stop embodies.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, that he's possessed.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's possessed.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't know if I'm fully convinced of my own thesis there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I am.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know the anime, of course, but it just really feels like he is that character in the same way Sam Raid is Lestad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or Lestad is Sam Raid.
[SPEAKER_02]: So Sam Raid is Lestad and Disguise.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like Sam Raid went back in time, visited Anne Rice and her dreams and said, write me as a vampire.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's actually like that in real life.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he is.
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_01]: It does a good job portraying it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean in this case, it's more of like finding someone who has a similar personality because he does seem boisterous in interviews And you're yeah, and you're here to our mouth.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, um, and Yaki is great.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad we have them.
[SPEAKER_02]: This whole cast is just doing a killer job doing all this The I was a surprise.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you were I guess you weren't because you didn't know it's coming, but I was surprised that they did
[SPEAKER_02]: the wax cake, the wax structure, because that is one of those memeable like this takes so many episodes to, he keeps going, it's going to be just a couple minutes and then you'll be suffocating and then it's like six episodes later.
[SPEAKER_01]: Really?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's one of those things.
[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't seem like it wasn't that difficult to figure out how to speed things up for the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, easy fix right, but I did also enjoy that they were like, why are you dragging this out?
[SPEAKER_02]: And like the other book works.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that was kind of a nod to like how long that took in the anime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, but it is also it's the, you know, we're always talking about the James Bond villains who at least he stayed to watch his artwork take place as long as he could.
[SPEAKER_01]: but yeah, it's always the James Bond villains.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, here is the elaborate plan to kill you, but I'm going to leave, so I don't see you escape.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's very slow dropping you into the acid or shark tank or whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a whole thing in Dungeon Crowler Coral, which I just finished all, you know, the series that's out for it is they make an agreement.
[SPEAKER_02]: The two main characters make an agreement with each other like, no monologue.
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't monologue.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just finish it because otherwise things go wrong.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but here is just like, um, just Mr. 3 is simply, he is, I don't love the unhinged artist trope, but it is a fun villain that, um, he doesn't have some big master plan.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I need to kill you.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm at least I'm gonna have fun with it and this is what's fun for me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean the suffering is part of his art, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then the thing is, like, I guess he just leaves the wax sculpture there behind.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a monument to his cruelty.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think of the giants, by the way?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that was fun that they were like turning tropes where you expect, obviously, the giants to want to eat them.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's like, oh, I see what I did there.
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to have you four dinner as a guest.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's it's pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I will say those laughs are taken right out of the anime.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm so glad that they did the ridiculous laughs together.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the whole, um, that sometimes it's just like, you just got to let them do them that, uh, they didn't even remember what they were fighting about, but they were clearly friends about it.
[SPEAKER_01]: And aside from the, you know, having the sabotage from the Baroque works, they were perfectly content to just fight each other every day, have beers, fight each other, and then call it a day and do it again.
[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little uneasy about the fact that the one was willing to go through, I forget which is which was willing to go through with it, even after, I mean, I guess he just wasn't paying attention to the fact that the other one was sabotaged.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he didn't notice, yeah, because he's devastated afterwards, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, oh my god, I didn't win an honorable duel.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But it even still like if he did it without with thinking it was honorable, wouldn't he be partly sad about losing his friend to again, I'm sure I'm overthinking it.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I think you would have had him, but he was he was triggered early, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he was told like, hey, that wasn't honorable.
[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's definitely the biggest fake out death that we've had it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still not sure how he survived his intestines exploding.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he's a giant who knows what his biology is.
[SPEAKER_02]: He has like six other intestines.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that they make it.
[SPEAKER_01]: I presume that the anime at some point goes to their giant island.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope the show makes it that far, if that's the case.
[SPEAKER_01]: They still have it in 800.
[SPEAKER_02]: They literally just got there.
[SPEAKER_02]: well we'll see they literally just got there it's it's funny because um i think i said this our last podcast has been a while now so i'm sorry if i'm repeating myself but uh they people were people who have just seen it um and not seen the anime go like oh we're probably going to el bath next season and then somebody on Reddit responded to them and went
[SPEAKER_02]: just true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like he literally characters said that's 20 years ago in the real world.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we got a long way to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: If we go to LB.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I wonder if you'll rearrange things in the live action to keep story arcs closer to each other.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't think so for that one because it's supposed to be towards the end of the grand line.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're in the final saga right now in the anime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm, and didn't he the writer of the manga because the manga's not done right?
[SPEAKER_02]: The manga's not done either, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just slightly ahead of the anime.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but he revealed to someone what the one piece is or where it is or something for the first time?
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I don't, I haven't seen that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I could people shading.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I thought he maybe had to tell Netflix or something.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I really don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen anything, but I'm not denying it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_01]: I might be making that up.
[SPEAKER_01]: If you know, let us know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, come jump on to discord.com.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: For that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, one else we got.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Usop is now a brave warrior of the seat, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: He has a, he has a, he has a, he has been given a pep talk by Braggie.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's ready to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they are ready to set off.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had a, I like them blasting a hole through the giant fish.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they start the argument again.
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just going back to their old ways that you giant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: they're great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but the wasn't there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Usopp was telling a story in the last episode that we talked the last, you know, the first three episodes we talked about in the last batch about a giant goldfish and are we saw a giant goldfish?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't even put that together.
[SPEAKER_02]: That he's, he's finally made one of his stories come true.
[UNKNOWN]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's um, what was that and always something in Philadelphia where Dennis writes his sexual memoirs
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still I've stalled on I've watched the first five seasons.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that might have been in there It was a pretty early one maybe maybe he writes he writes like he sees 50 shades of gray get big and he's like I have to write my own and then some one of the other gang reads and he's like, but none of this is true He's like I guess I should make some of this true right like
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I've seen that yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: I think there might be, well, let's go ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: I still have, yeah, sure, I won't watch now, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's so many seasons of that show.
[SPEAKER_01]: What's there like almost on 20 or something now?
[SPEAKER_02]: I think 18 now?
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm still on the first quarter then.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or just finish the first quarter.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an insane show.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's take a break.
[SPEAKER_01]: And a may of live action.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right, that's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's take a break and we'll come back and we'll go right on to Drum Island.
[SPEAKER_02]: Or back, the straw hat seemed to find a doctor for Nami, and they spot drum kingdom, which VV has less than fond memories of, due to an altercation with its king-mwappel at a reverie.
[SPEAKER_02]: It turns out that after Blackbeard attacked the kingdom, Wappel fled with all the doctors in the land which were the islands pride.
[SPEAKER_02]: Wappel has also been given a delir fruit by birth of works.
[SPEAKER_02]: The head of drama, Drumsguard, Dalton, welcomes the straw hats and tells them about Dr. Kareha.
[SPEAKER_02]: The island's last doctor who lives in the King's Castle atop a mountain.
[SPEAKER_02]: Luffy and Sanji decides to climb the mountain at night with Nami on Luffy's back, and they barely make it before being rescued by Tony Tony Chopper.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nami is treated by Kareha and Chopper, elsewhere, Smoker and Tishiki clean up marine base attacked by Baroque works, members, misters, they, and Mr. 11.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to say, let's go right on, but that's a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: So why don't we just discuss that quick?
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Um, go ahead.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just we're running through more.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even really remember misters, they mister.
[SPEAKER_01]: Was misters say the one with the baseball?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: That was earlier.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, yeah, this was, this was whoever was in that, I vaguely remember this, too, because I want to just now like three weeks ago, but yeah, I mean, it was just really smoke or being like, where's, where's everything and they're trying to put everything together with the straw hats and all that, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: So now they've, they've decided to converge on Alavasta, so everyone's going there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I bring up some changes that they made?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, please.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they climb the mountain vertically in the show and then live action in the anime they go during the day and they climb the mountain more traditionally right walking, but they are way laid.
[SPEAKER_02]: by giant rabbits and I'm kind of like if there are giant vicious rabbits on this island maybe it's more reasonable for them to assume chopper's a monster they did at one point they were skinning a giant rabbits in town I guess that's an illusion to it it's just like a quick nod
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, they totally changed that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And honestly, I'm glad because I don't need them running from, again, this is a several episodes we're running from the rabbits.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nami's just getting jostled on the back of Luffy and everything's fine.
[SPEAKER_01]: Then we're supposed to think that she keeps surviving.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: It starts to get a little unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, also her just like wrapped around Luffy is not super believable either.
[SPEAKER_02]: And his ridiculous head grab of Sanji,
[SPEAKER_02]: Honestly, it made me laugh how loud.
[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, so what, he like threw him on top for hate?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he, he, he, he, he, he gum gummed his neck.
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh-huh.
[SPEAKER_02]: Rapt his head around and bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hahaha.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it took Sanji by the teeth and then slung him on top.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Bruce him up.
[SPEAKER_02]: and somehow didn't kill him either right yeah none of it's realistic that's fine um... i feel like there was another change oh yeah the big change i would say is waffle had nothing to do with burrow works as far as as far as i know in the adam that he just he just had had the devil for it already
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so it seems like this is, this is a secret revealed that people don't in this world don't know that what's her face, Miss Sunday?
[SPEAKER_01]: Miss all Sunday?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm all Sunday, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: That she, in this live action, at least, gave him the devil fruit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Secret.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a new, a new detail, I think.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so what is okay, the way his works is he whatever he eats, he can like reconstitute and spit back up.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's creating these super soldiers that somehow eating them doesn't kill them and they come back out with like metal parts and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's a little ridiculous, but he also, I think in the anime he does more of like eating them and then making them part of his body.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, oh, seems darker and maybe it would have been harder to do with special effects and things like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm fine, but the way they did it in the election.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's supposed to they would have to make him like bigger bigger something.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, again, multi episode fight between him and Luffy in the anime here.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have a cut to like just a few punches really, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like that was a quick fight.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but then, yeah, you have the interesting story of the king turning on his people.
[SPEAKER_01]: And so why he's kidnapping all of the doctors, except the crazy quote, unquote, which lady, whatever.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why does he he just wants them all in case he gets sick like obviously he doesn't care about his people But why does he feel like he needs personally all the dog it's a good question not super well explained In either medium right I think it's probably just that they are like that's the main Business of this island and so when he leaves he's like I'm taking all the doctors with me
[SPEAKER_02]: okay out of spite right just to I think it's a form of control to but at the same time he had already started gathering them to him so I don't know I think I think part of it was monopolized again monopolized the resources to make people bowed out to you more okay you can only get treatment if they're good to you and if you like them
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I suppose that makes sense, sadly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: He's just a bad dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, were you a hero's fan back in the day?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you notice who was Dr. Nefertari?
[SPEAKER_02]: Um.
[SPEAKER_02]: Why are you laughing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Cobra.
[SPEAKER_02]: Cobra Nefertari?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, wait.
[SPEAKER_01]: It was um, what's his face at?
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I know from him.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Nefertari?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know him from other things since as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I don't think I've seen him in anything since that's why when I saw him, I was like, hey, where you been, buddy?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know the casting in this is great.
[SPEAKER_01]: I suppose also because they choose through characters so quickly, they can just do all kinds of stunt casting for an episode or two.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we know that we're going to his kingdom next season.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, spoiler, not spoiler, we're going to see more of this guy.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I this what okay my other thing that I was totally as not knowing the anime was unaware that chopper Tony Tony chopper has three forms and so I was it was a mystery to me who rescued them from the cliff top yeah because I didn't realize that he also we came like this you know where reindeer
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the zone for a type and we learn of course, Dalton also is a zone for a type.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, kind of the opposite in a way.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he becomes more of a wear wolf, sort of.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's the more common configuration, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's only one human human for it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So only one animal could actually be like this.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is a thing, I don't know if I want to say this, actually.
[SPEAKER_02]: That might be too much of a spoiler.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I mean, that the chopper is the one and only animal turned human.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Question about the fruits in general is is there more than one fruit of a type?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, uh, no, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is one fruit per type.
[SPEAKER_02]: When the user dies, the fruit will reappear the world somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, a random spot.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So the gum gum fruit can, yeah, no one else can have the same powers at the same time, basically.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: interesting oh so wait have we had some devil fruit users die I guess we have like the wax wax fruit yeah we got out there I don't think he's dead oh okay he's not dead but uh but mr. five is mr. five is definitely dead right like he was he was chopped up right by zoro so the bomb bomb fruit I think that's what it was maybe it wasn't but that's that's somewhere now
[SPEAKER_02]: or it'll grow somewhere.
[SPEAKER_02]: It might need to grow from it and I'm not quite sure, but yeah, they only reappear after the death of the user.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you don't know what it is until you start eating it, and then you know the name inherently.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: I had to look up the the actor who played that you brought up from heroes a send deal, um, Rama Murthy, and what I know him from is never have I ever, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: TV show, um, on, I think it's on Netflix.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mindy calling.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anyway.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now, now I, I recognize it a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Now that you
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so yeah, we've got we've got a lot of lore here.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think a lot of a lot of set up here.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dalton seems like a stand-up guy from all this, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: I really like how young VV impressed upon him, like even a child is better than my king.
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought that was really good storytelling.
[SPEAKER_02]: They added that whole reverie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, no, they just made it bigger because that there was a thing where they had a spat, but they embellished like Dalton noticing
[SPEAKER_02]: So I was glad that they played that up because I made it make more sense why we do it in the last back.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I like the tension they, not attention really, but they contrast, they create a between VV and Luffy when it came to the way they approach new groups, where VV demonstrated, you know, going into the city, sometimes don't come on aggressively, just come back to the city.
[SPEAKER_01]: But then, on the other hand, when they showed her childhood, she also needed to learn to stand up for herself a bit more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Although, yeah, well, she's supposed to do it against the king.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: right I mean she she did avoid I mean I think the whole point of that was like sometimes diplomacy is the braver thing and perhaps what's the one thing that we could learn today right yeah diplomacy has more bravery than just bombing places very hopeunk very hopeunk uh all right you want to read the next part sure it's a backstory episode when Louvy asks about the pirate flag on the wall korea tells him that chopper was a reindeer who ate
[SPEAKER_01]: The human human fruit, Emma's found injured by Dr. Herilic, the worst doctor of all time.
[SPEAKER_01]: He was supposedly cured of a terminal illness when he saw cherry blossoms, and therefore dreamed of curing drum island with the sight of cherry blossoms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Herilic's disease comes back, and he pushes chopper away, but chopper sees the skull and crossbones, supposedly a symbol of hope, next to a mushroom in Herilic's book.
[SPEAKER_01]: He finds the mushroom and serves
[SPEAKER_01]: Here, look nose would happen, but drinks the tea anyway and goes to Woppel's castle to give a grand speech that a man does dies, not when his body passes away, but when his dream is forgotten, he then blows himself up.
[SPEAKER_01]: We return to the present where Woppel returns to drum island.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this was a sad one, I didn't want him to die, but I suppose he was dying anyway,
[SPEAKER_01]: and go out in dramatic fashion, but you know what, this will work with my plan.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's what we're done in seeing in case my boss can go off.
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, maybe teach chopper in the future, going across the process.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just serve it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He opened up a tee shop and just everyone just did the first day.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that seems like just an important lesson for him to learn.
[SPEAKER_01]: And also, maybe Chopper needed to learn too that sometimes you can't fix things.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what Dr. Heria says to him, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: She says, there is no such thing as a cure all.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard work to cure people.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I really, I really like Dr. Heria.
[SPEAKER_02]: She is another common trope in the one piece universe of
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I really liked the casting Katie Seagull.
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been a fan of hers ever since the married with children days.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I heard that apparently Jamie Lee Curtis was up for this role, which I could have seen as well, but I am glad they went with Katie Seagull.
[SPEAKER_01]: And she did the witches' cackle really well in a way that made it feel like, oh, this is a nod to the fact that people call her a witch, but it just sounds like normal laughing too.
[SPEAKER_01]: Embraces at a little bit because like I like being that kind of mysterious yeah, yeah, well, it makes people leave her alone She's the only one doctor who wasn't kidnapped That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I think that was more stealth.
[SPEAKER_02]: She took over the castle after It's true that we're searching for them.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they were searching for them She was doing the undercover stuff and then she was like here look can you please stop like injuring my patients?
[SPEAKER_02]: This is this is getting out of hand and
[SPEAKER_02]: And I like that hero like also denies that she's like the much better doctor until he needs something and then we'll bring more from here.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I like the dynamic between the two of them.
[SPEAKER_01]: They had a complex relationship.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, although she could be have a nicer to chopper.
[SPEAKER_01]: The way I felt bad when chopper will talk about it next obviously.
[SPEAKER_01]: But when chopper leaves her, I was like, oh, she should go to.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I think it's supposed to be the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: the same thing of when Nami left her island right she she took all the wallets so that she couldn't come back um it's kind of it's kind of it's kind of the opposite right because correct has like get out of here a little ingredient and then and then but then she sends him off with his pack right she can vanish dashed his pack in the in the slay and she also did the cherry blossom bomb which i think right is it
[SPEAKER_01]: It's beautiful, but it was just pink snow, like I, that was the easiest stretch too far for me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love cherry blossoms.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love them.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the way they look.
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the Sakura flavor, but yeah, I think you need something more substantial than pretty pink snow to cure pills.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've been in this podcast.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Hurrill Extreme is alive, you've exceeded.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Apparently it worked.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe defeating Walpole worked.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, let's talk about defeating Walpole.
[SPEAKER_02]: Walpole now empowered by the munch munch food has created some super soldiers to take back his island.
[SPEAKER_02]: Dalton, Zoro, and Usop, lead the resistance in VV, goes to War and Luffy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Walpole arrives at the castle and shoots a chopper's flag, but Luffy blocks it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Luffy defeats Wappel in Fries the Island, Nami has recovered, Chopper joins the Strahats.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kareha releases the cherry blossom bomb that Hero La Created.
[SPEAKER_02]: Kareha brings up the D in Luffy's name, which is like Goldie Rogers, and she named drops the Will of D.
[SPEAKER_02]: uh... the straw had to commit to sailing to alabasta and saving it from mr. zero who is actually the warlord crocodile and from miss all sunday who's actually nico robin so much to talk about here
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, um, okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's start with the D. So interesting goal D Rogers.
[SPEAKER_01]: Gold Rogers got it.
[SPEAKER_01]: There was a tease about the D. And now there's still not telling me, and I know you won't tell me, but the will of D, I'm trying to wrap my head around why, like, there's this something you're born with, can you say?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's no I don't I don't actually know at the point I'm at why do you get the D okay But I know that the D is supposed to do something there the will of D is going to do something Supposedly it's it's something it's I mean it seems like something you inherit from Apparent maybe it does seem like that doesn't it Not sure I'm not sure if it is exactly I mean we do have monkey D Garp right
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't say the other stuff, but we had Goldie Roger, we're going to meet more D's next season.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have monkeys.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have monkeys.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have monkeys.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have monkeys.
[SPEAKER_01]: We have monkeys.
[SPEAKER_02]: We have monkeys.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean we've got we've got we've got a lot going on here the will of the obviously is tease here and also the the identities of Mr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Zero and Miss all Sunday Did you you got from the show what a warlord is exactly?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean I don't think I ever felt confused about that, but it's just it's self explanatory to me, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for the listeners, if it was at all confusing, the warlords are pirates who had huge boundaries and the government said, rather than hunt you down, we're gonna hire you.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you're just gonna do our bidding once in a while and then be able to still be a pirate.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they talked about that in, I feel like even in the first season, they step the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because, mehawk is a warlord too,
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that was a slightly disappointing thing to me is that I liked, I said in the last episode, how they used me hawk it's start of the season as sort of like someone who's haunting, I mean, he's not dead obviously, but he's inside Zoro's head driving Zoro to keep training.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was disappointed that they dropped that aspect for the rest of the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: He'll be back.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: You'll see more of them.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had him for a day of filming Alicia.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: They could have spread it out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just have something that like everyone's in well.
[SPEAKER_01]: Zoro is still, you know, thinking of me Hawk.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just have a flash of him going.
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like, well, better start training.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: I see where you're saying.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, what was in Dr. Who when we had Jonathan Graff, like, just show up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it was filmed the previous season.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it was like, you have a place.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, that's a whole other thing.
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to do an episode in the not so well, as soon as we find out when it's coming out in the US about the war between the land and the sea, it's been out in the UK for ages now.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going on with Dr. Who.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been it's one of the most mismatched properties in the world right now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got we got a lot of other stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so Dr.
[SPEAKER_02]: Here look, he made a bomb.
[SPEAKER_02]: That could mix with the snow and mimic cherry blossoms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Except it's just pink snow.
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, hey, hey.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also the texture of cherry blossoms.
[SPEAKER_01]: Does it at least have the flavor?
[SPEAKER_01]: I do really, I love floral flavors.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I really like, like, that's my, if I can get into some Japanese snacks and like, you can't miss Sakura scratching myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: It actually tastes like a fart.
[SPEAKER_02]: I am no idea.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, do you mean the snow?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'm the one I'm joking about.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: People were sticking out their tongue.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to go with it tastes like cherry blossoms.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably true.
[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine he used like some very unhealthy dye there.
[SPEAKER_02]: He could do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: He mixed the entire island sick enough.
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he and Chopper have something in common.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
[SPEAKER_02]: No.
[SPEAKER_01]: Both mass murderers just because they're trying to help.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, I mean, we kind of talked about Wapul, what he's up to, we talked about the, you know, the, the lovable commudgeon that is Dr. Kareha, what do you think of Tony, Tony Chopper in general?
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's so weird when Tony, Tony, Chopper turns into a big beastly form and still has that, I don't tell you.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not a actor to the anime though, they've really been that, they did it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Not, not to physics, but I don't know, I suppose I can happen.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's magic.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's already.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, definitely.
[SPEAKER_01]: Loveable and early contenders have become my favorite member of the crew.
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see He's not my favorite member.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, he's great.
[SPEAKER_01]: Who's your favorite member?
[SPEAKER_02]: He haven't met him yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, oh, okay The crew keeps growing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
[SPEAKER_02]: It does you you're probably not going to be the next season either So okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's coming What do you think of Nico Robin by the way?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have to be slightly honest that I think the actress is very lovely looking, but I found her to be the weakest actor in the show, so that kind of took me out with this character a little bit, but I am intrigued by the character overall, just not in love with the portrayal.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: People have actually thought that she was a good portrayal because she's
[SPEAKER_02]: You just find her like kind of stiff and on the other side, yeah, but that's that's line with how she was of the anime.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think you'll see more as we go forward.
[SPEAKER_02]: Did you notice her poster?
[SPEAKER_01]: That when she was a child already, yeah, was had a bounty on her head.
[SPEAKER_02]: So she's been wanted since she was a child.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, presumably she's been with with Mr.
[SPEAKER_01]: Zero for a long time or I guess maybe he's like a foster father to her in a way.
[SPEAKER_02]: you you're guessing at things.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I don't know if you're correct.
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
[UNKNOWN]: No, they have different goals.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think we could just say that she did say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she did say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: She did say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She did say that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: She did say that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She did say that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm just going to just to just to set your expectations.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not going to be like a, unless they drastically change it.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not going to be like a father-daughter montage.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I mean, I don't even think that they had a good relationship, even if that were so.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just wondering, yeah, because she, because of that, the fact she was a child on her wanted poster, I suppose she just was out there on her own for a while, then.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, her backstory will be told about five arcs from now.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe they'll move it up.
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll move and stuff up.
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it really only works in that arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like an important arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: The show.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I wait with Bated Breath.
[SPEAKER_02]: So last episode, I kept calling Miss all Sunday Robin because that's the name I know her better by.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I kept having to edit out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I'm curious why they felt that needed to be hidden at first, because I mean, that wasn't, yeah, yeah, true, true.
[SPEAKER_01]: That name just doesn't mean anything to me yet.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like there's somebody's called monkey D something, and then you're like, oh, that's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's just, you know, it was supposed to be VV, VV spent the whole, it was supposed to be super difficult to find out who she was, right, if who she was and who he was.
[SPEAKER_02]: She spent the whole time infiltrating years infiltrating to find out these identities if they give it to us the first episode it might have been cheap
[SPEAKER_02]: Right, that's what I'll how I'll defend it right.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I suppose it's also just the fact that like the throne a lot of names and information at us.
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Just know that emphasizes that she's she's in Baroque works, you know, right, like we're we're trying to real build here of like here's this massive criminal organization and other people don't know who she is because I suppose if she has that wanted poster as a child someone who's really into pirates like Luffy might know that name.
[SPEAKER_02]: we will see in season three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I'm intrigued about her as an agent who's kind of working behind the scenes more.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and her powers.
[SPEAKER_02]: The cover one, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Her power is so cool.
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe that she's not considered of the more powerful fruit type, because that is like she does seem OP.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're all OP to be honest.
[SPEAKER_01]: This is OP people fighting OP people, which is how you get them to just P.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, you can look, Luffy defeats, everybody he comes into contact with, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, that's the whole point of the show.
[SPEAKER_02]: And he is technically a paramizia type.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's not that a paramizia type can't overpower a logia type.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's that categorically, logia types are considered more powerful.
[SPEAKER_02]: The paramizia types, because of the inability to hit them directly.
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm very curious to meet more low geotypes because, okay, I get it with the smoke, but now I need to see like, what are the other options for that?
[SPEAKER_02]: You will meet at least two next season.
[SPEAKER_02]: I promise that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But her power, miss also nice power with what is it called the flower flower fruit?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the flower flower fruit.
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, with her arms growing out of things, it's so cool visually, but it's also creepy AF.
[SPEAKER_01]: yeah there's there's parts of the anime that I hope they bring in of her like making like a chain with her arm like whoo trying to grab people um very cool very cool i hope i hope they get there no i'm appreciating this character visually so far and um i'm hoping they draw me in with caring about her as a person or at least in tree being more intrigued about her as a person for now it's like okay she's been a pirate since she was young
[SPEAKER_02]: You'll get there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if you'll get all the way there next season.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: But you'll get there.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think we did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anything else?
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I do we know what the, um, the ETA is on season three.
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, are they filming?
[SPEAKER_01]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a good question.
[SPEAKER_02]: Twenty twenty seven.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's supposed to be released.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think they're okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe I don't know if they're done filming yet.
[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, they were, they were starting filming pretty early, I think, on this.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I hope that they are, do we know about season four?
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it renewed yet?
[SPEAKER_01]: because I hope that they, it would be smart of them to just, you know, take a few months break and then get immediately back to film me.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would be nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they, I don't think they've been renewed for season four yet, but season three started filming in November of last year.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they might be done by now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not see them.
[SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully we get that early, 2027 and we just do an annual release and we're good with that.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, please.
[SPEAKER_01]: This seems like a good show for that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely.
[SPEAKER_01]: This planning is a thing.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, thank you everyone for being patient waiting for our coverage.
[SPEAKER_02]: We did it.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's out.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: And thank you for getting me into this world and putting up with my stupid questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not stupid questions.
[SPEAKER_02]: I had very somewhat, if you go back and listen to my coverage with Moses on the anime.
[SPEAKER_02]: Anime stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was asking a lot of the same questions, right?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what is this?
[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, ah, it's a lot of like, I can't tell you yet there's a lot going on.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's things that are happening that you're not seeing all that kind of stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, yeah, it's a lot of stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: There's there's going to be more power systems introduced as we go.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, not even.
[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't even call it magic.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just like vibes.
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what I would like to call it.
[SPEAKER_01]: Hard vibes.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Bring it on.
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so what else we got going on in the network?
[SPEAKER_02]: You're doing Daredevil, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we just released the first half of the season, season five is out and just before that we released our season, sorry, episode five is out and just before that we released our episode one through four episode of the second season.
[SPEAKER_01]: So that was episode four, especially was my favorite in the season to date, episode five was a very well written episode
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll be back at the end of the season with more Daredevil and then one week after that for the Punisher special.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very nice, plenty of Marvel content for all of you superhero heads.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, and also I want to shout out that we covered the drama there has the new Robert Pattinson and Zendaya movie and there has been, right, from that interview, he's like, I'm just like, yeah, like, what?
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, I'm pretty sure he's the same age that I am.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's not just, he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's been generating some deep conversation on the discord.
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have watched the drama and whether or not you've listened to our episode, I hope you'll join in our discussion because it is that kind of movie.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: The pit finishing up this week.
[SPEAKER_02]: We just have the finale.
[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't even watched yet, but me and David are going to be
[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, talking about that this weekend, stay tuned for that and David is also leading the Mall coverage.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was supposed to be leading it with him, but I did not like it as much as you, but he's really into it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I have to say, like, I don't think I've ever seen David this into a Star Wars property.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he was very into and or but since and or I've not seen him that enamored with one of those, especially Micheal shows it's very like techno noir very like I keep calling it great blade runner chorus on to the planet genics there on or at least the part of that part of the planet that they're on So I mean to a two I like it as well.
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been I sent in three voice males this time.
[SPEAKER_01]: I split it into three parts
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's good, though, because it's good to drop it in the relevant parts, and that way we don't forget about what you said by the end of the podcast.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I know I can fuse you by making a joke about your Sith stuff.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you didn't confuse me.
[SPEAKER_01]: I just, there was a comment on the Patreon about, and I was like, did I say something about Sith Protestants?
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, no, John made the joke, oh, oh, oh.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was trying to frame what you said as Sith Protestantism.
[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, no.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but, and I said, I think they actually will say the Protestants were Darth Bain, the one who implemented the Rule of Two, and only he was a sort of Protestant who killed all the Catholics.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he might just, he might just be the only set at that point, right?
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think the other set has to exist to be a Protestant.
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that was the idea is that there will only be two from then on.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going to edit this some early in episode, get that out, think something's on this weekend.
[SPEAKER_02]: So we're going to finish up the torn torn bar arc.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is not hopeunk.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is very dark.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like the most George R. Martin that Tolkien ever gets interesting.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, all right.
[SPEAKER_02]: There is, there is accidental murder, there is accidental incest, there is.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's really like Game of Thronesy.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very curious.
[SPEAKER_01]: I am behind on my reading, but now I'm excited to get to that part and see how Tolkien of all people does Grimdark.
[SPEAKER_01]: Because we, it's, it's, it's, we held him up.
[SPEAKER_01]: We held him up as a hope punk example.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, he, he largely is, but he wrote this story when he was fighting in World War One and it shows.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is also like, if you're into like the classics, he very much basis on, I believe, Maryland's of the Colabala, the, you know, the ancient myth.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: So this is, this is very much like a classic retelling of a quote unquote hero story.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Other affiliate coverage got radioactive ramlings doing invincible and the boys.
[SPEAKER_02]: a lot of superheroes have gone on there, more satirical of course.
[SPEAKER_02]: Do you want to tell them about the other affiliates?
[SPEAKER_01]: Never mind, the music has been, they just put out the cutest side track episode where Mark's son talks about as some why he doesn't love a certain Fleetwood Max song as much as his dad.
[SPEAKER_01]: Properly Howard they've been doing they're they're newly wed season so far I'm still trying to wrap my head around what it it's it's movie reviews It's funny movie reviews, but they've been pairing them up.
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like a lot of the time So this latest one was Another David Dost Malci and one of what is it called the the one where he's a talk show host in the 70s But midnight with the devil or something along with the accessist, which is another favorite of mine So that was an interesting conversation to listen in on
[SPEAKER_01]: and uh... and i promise there's more will shift dust doon stuff and uh... star wars a hyper public stuff coming soon um... subscribers have been getting more episodes and i'm putting in the public sorry alright well you heard it here
[SPEAKER_01]: more stuff coming and a plenty of stuff to listen to in the war hounds network we may put out too much content and radioactive andlings they're covering invincible now and the boys at the same time yeah already went through that why is Amazon oh sorry why is Amazon releasing them at the same time
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't tell you, I don't, I don't see inside the mind of Jeffrey Bezos.
[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, it's the same audience.
[SPEAKER_01]: Do them back to back anyway.
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: There's not even a lot of big shows coming out until June, like they have time.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, June's going to be a lot.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think invincible basically almost done though.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: I have to catch up on all of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Are they on season four?
[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, I think they're basically finishing like next week.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they wanted the overlap.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would make more sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like a little overlap.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're finishing this weekend.
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_01]: This week?
[SPEAKER_02]: No, next week.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry.
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright.
[SPEAKER_01]: I hear good things about both seasons.
[SPEAKER_01]: The boys and events are both so.
[SPEAKER_01]: My nosions and join them.
[SPEAKER_02]: I, I fell off the boys last season.
[SPEAKER_02]: But I, I, I, this is the final season.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to see it through.
[SPEAKER_01]: That's fair.
[SPEAKER_02]: I might go back eventually.
[SPEAKER_02]: I just, I got bummed out halfway through the season.
[SPEAKER_02]: It felt too real.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, that's a me problem, not a bad problem.
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, I found GenV really invigorating.
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of more injured GenV than the boys at the moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: That makes sense.
[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess they're supposed to show up this season.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Very exciting.
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